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September 28, 2020 44 mins

On this episode of the Dr. Deborah show, Dr. Deborah speaks with Arun Gandhi. Born in 1934 in Durban, South Africa, Arun is the fifth grandson of India’s legendary leader, Mohandas K. “Mahatma” Gandhi. Growing up under the discriminatory apartheid laws of South Africa, he was beaten by “white” South Africans for being too black and “black” South Africans for being too white; so, Arun sought eye-for-an-eye justice. However, he learned from his parents and grandparents that justice does not mean revenge, it means transforming the opponent through love and suffering. 

In this enlightening conversation, Arun Gandhi describes some of the lessons of his famous grandfather, and speaks about nonviolence, violence, communication, peace making and self-care.

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