Episode 39: 20/20 Vision / There Was An Old Woman

20/20 Vision stars Michael Moriarty as a bank manager given a new perspective of his clients and coworkers thanks to an unusual pair of spectacles. There Was An Old Woman stars Colleen Dewhurst as an aging children's author who finds a previously untapped audience.

Episode Transcript

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Good evening, and welcome to Night'sGallery. Thank you, Rod, and
I want to welcome everyone to MidnightViewing, where once a month we talk
all about your follow up to theTwilight Zone, Rod Serling's Night Gallery.
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White, What can happen to humanbeings when trust is wife dog by suspicion
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I'm Father Malone, the kind ofthing that usually infest nightmares, joined us
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Weird Well there, I'm Chris Dash, I'm Mike White, and this is

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Father Malone, and we are thehost of Dreams for Sale, a once
a month look at the Twilight Zonefrom nineteen eighty five, which was good,
all, yeah, yeah, itwas it was good most one point,
mostly great series. Is it unfortunatethat this show has some really good
episodes and some really bad ones?Or is that just anthologies at synthologies all

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the way? Yeah, I meanwe've said this before, but go back
and watch the entire run of theoriginal Twilight Zone, as great a series
as it was, there are somedogs. Ye. Speaking of dogs,
these episodes may or may not bedogs. We'll see here. In about
five minutes, we're gonna be talkingabout the twelfth and thirteenth episodes of the
third season twenty twenty Vision, andthere was an old woman focus on Warren

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Cribbins, a myopaque little man,precise with figures, awkward with people,
his horizons a bottom line dotted withdecimal points, but his safety in numbers
is about to be erased. Sotwenty twenty Vision aired December tenth, nineteen
eighty eight. It is directed byJim Purdy and written by Robert Walton Walden.

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It stars Michael Moriarty as Warren Cribbins, a nervous little man who works
at the bank processing loans, andhis glasses break and then he can see
things, maybe the future, maybean alternate universe. Who knows? All
I know is this episode was justokay, yeah, continuing the genteel tour

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of the Twilight Zone. Just kindof stories that are mostly heartwarming at this
point, like without very much twilightZony kind of twists, like you know,
and I don't need a twist ina show, but I need it
to have some sort of not necessarilya reason behind the paranormal or supernatural thing

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occurring. But like they're just sotoothless this season, like that, you
know, you're toothless or bad toothlessand yeah, and no point of view
other than like what we're seeing,like you know, I've been Twilight.
So there was a Twilight Zone episodewith a guy flips the coin and it
lands and then he can hear Imean for your thoughts, right, which

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is what this one reminded me of. Except it reminded me that that episode
was awesome and this one is justslight at best, which is a shame
because you know, Michael Moriarty isone of those guys like he must be
a real dick to work with becausehe just didn't seem to get further than
television. Well, him and LarryCohen got along really well, but yeah,

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there there aren't too many people thatdid. Yeah, and you know,
look if you go watch him onLaw and Order when he was the
disc journey on there, like,yeah, he is so good. Like
I've never seen an actor embodied decencyin a way that Michael Mariotti does.
He seems to be if it's justan act, like even more props to
him, because he seems like areally decent human being and that kind that

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comes across here as well. Imean, I love him and everything he's
in. It's just that, youknow, as we've said on many episodes
of the show, this episode justdoes him in disservice. It's it's so
slight. It doesn't really give himanything to like latch onto other than this
guy who seems decent from the beginningdoing the decent thing at the end,
Like the only quandary is like,you know, should I do this thing

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and lose my job? Like Idon't know, it's not like he's whatever
like experience these glasses are giving him, Like it's only sort of reaffirming like
what he already knows. It's notlike he's he's a miserly dickhead. And
then finally sees something from somebody else'spoint of view, it's just like,

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yeah, this is kind of shadywhat I'm engaged in. Oh yeah,
yeah, it really is shady.I mean it was the mortgage industry,
especially back here in the eighties.You know, this is way before the
Frank Dot Act. So yeah,Dot Frank act. Sorry, but yeah,
yeah, it's you're right, thereis no change. He wants the

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girl, he doesn't get the girl. I mean, but what was about
that, Like, it's so obviousthat they should be ending up together at
the end of the episode, andhe just walks out and it's like,
Okay, cool, Yeah, Iguess I'll have to find another job after
I loaned this hay seed all thisfucking money. And it's like, oh
my god, dude, are youa fucking moron loaning all of your money

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to this dude? Who h Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm not getting
that money back. No, No, he's going to die penniless destre he
probably steps in. Yeah, youshould have lifted his own bank account with
that. With the glasses, andit's so weird how he just like he
uses the glasses so sparingly. It'slike, man, if I had those

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glasses, I'd be wearing them allthe time and checking out what the future
brings. What's like the power inthe dead zone right, like you would
be touching everyone like come here,it's gonna break. Yeah, I want
to know, Like come here,let me tell you something. Five bucks
and like no, it's just likehold on, hold on, let me
just put these on now, Likeright, dude, like you have this
power that you could use for goodor bad or indeterminate gray area in between,

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and you're just like hold on asecond. Yeah, at least in
the dead zone, Like it's it'sphysically painful for him, right, he
touches somebody Like yes, it's there'sno consequence whatsoever, Like leave those glasses
on, find out everything you can. Yeah, and been given the sight
is again, is it is heseeing the future or is he seeing up
future possibility? That's what he's seeingthe future all the time. Yeah,

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and then currently written right right,and then it's up to him to change
it. So I guess that farmerjust looks like a undead zombie once his
farm folds up. I was kindof scared by that, and then I
guess it's okay because I don't rememberif he actually looks at the farmer again

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and it's just like, oh,okay, everything will be okay now that
I loaned him this money. Idon't think he gets that confirmation. Yeah,
that's funny because, yeah, Imean maybe even the writers were like,
well, you know, this isn'tgoing to go anywhere, right,
right, it's just him performing agood deed. I mean, we're I
guess we're just being led to assumethat because he lend him lends him the
money, everything turns out okay inthe end. Sure, Like most government

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subsidized farms in the mid to lateeighties, they were totally not just gonna
buy up the land anyways and runthe high way through it because that's the
way it goes, and pay himnot to farm, pay him not to
grape drops. Yeah, it's avery weird episode because if you think about
the reality of what's going on,even with the glasses on, he makes

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some bone headed decisions that don't makeany sense, that do not serve his
character positively. There's the one momentwhere that woman is counting the money and
she drops a twenty into the trashand he staring and staring and staring,
and then she's like, oh,I dropped a twenty. Like what was
supernatural about that? I mean,I don't even know what was going on,

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Like we should have just said,like, hey, you dropped a
twenty, right, Well, hesees her do it, that's the first
time he puts on the glasses,sees her do it, goes over,
Hey, you drop this money.He looks in the garbage can. It's
not there. He's like, oh, okay, after he freaked her out,
Like he could have just come overand been like, oh, I
guess it's not there. But insteadit's like you didn't drop money in there.

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It's like, oh my gosh,dude. Yeah, and then he
leaves, takes off the glasses andthen it actually happens, right, and
so we it's kind of what wetalked about last month. We as the
audience have figured out, Oh,his classes all allow him to see in
the future, Right, shouldn't takefour more times for that to happen for
him to figure it out. It'slike, come on, buddy, let's

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pick up the slack pretty quickly.Are this season they seem very concerned with
convincing our protagonists of the powers thatare in play. Yeah, you know
what I had twenty two minutes todo it. I'm almost missing those episodes
where it's like what really happens whenyou get a wish from a yard sale?
Like I remember that was a shitepisode, But it's like I'm missing

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those things now. I'm missing likethe curiosity shop that you go into because
you hate Asian people, like whatever. Those things were old fashioned emporium.
Yeah, God damn. Those episodesplayed fast and loose with their rules,
but man, they were dumb andlike dumb and kind of like looking at

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them now, it's like they weredumb in a fun way. This is
just like dumb in a very boringway. Yeah, and as fast and
loose as they're playing with their rules, like everyone was on board, like
you know, we didn't need tospend any time going like, oh well,
I don't understand I'm in this emporium. What I need confirmation? Let
me go back out and come backin and tell somebody that they will think

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I'm crazy, Like who cares?Get on with it exactly, and especially
given the fact that we are nowat a twenty two minute runtime and they
spent how long showing him do thisover and over and over again, Like
oh my it's at least half therun time before everything starts sort of coming
into the focus. And I don'tknow if you guys know this, but
if you fall off of a ladderback bump, you break your neck.

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Oh my god, that ladder isso dangerous. She's got to be at
least three feet off the ground,falling flat on her back and breaking her
neck. Yeah, oh yeah,that's instance instant death. Yeah, definitely
doesn't need to be anything that wouldcause her neck to snap. Just hitting
the ground hard enough snaps your neck. That's why I will only live in

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a ranch home. It's it's weird, yeah, because he saves her life
and then he doesn't need her evenno, Like, yeah, he loads
out the money once again, Likethe authors are expecting us to fill in
all the fucking gaps, and that'sactually their job. Nobody gives us a

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tile floor and we just have togrow in it. It's our job to
make it look good. He gaveus the basic building blocks to get there.
Yeah, that's works at all.Here's some rock, salt, and
some cream. Now make ice cream. Yeah yeah, don't you love ice
cream? Love making it yourself?Like no, that's at the point of

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this, do you like, AngelinaJolie, I think for me with this
show, and look, we're whatin the we're in kind of the home
stretch here, We're about halfway throughthe third season. You know that that
means that we're like going somewhere goodlike that, right if if if Tales
from the Crypt is any indicator.Yeah, the longer the show goes on,

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the better the episode skit. Likethat's true of every show. Yeah,
remember the end of Dexter God Ido so good? Yeah, so
good that they're literally redoing the show. Yeah, it's man, it's depressing,
right, Yeah, I think it'sokay. The question is is it
depressing on its own or is itdepressing knowing how far we've fallen with this

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show? Um, a little bitof knowing how far it's fallen, Because
if I had to if this hadbeen the first season of the New Twilight
Zone, I would have gotten notas far as we are now and and
not revisited it until somebody went,oh, they did a really fucking good
one last night, Like that That'swhat it would have taken. Whereas watching
from season one here, it's likeholy shit, like that one kind of

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was not good. But I rememberjust two episodes ago that scared the shit
out of me, Like like,I'm gonna definitely keep tuning in. This
is just so there just doesn't seemto be any bite to it, which
makes me sound like I'm you know, I want the sort of bitter,
angry Twilight Zone and that's not thecase. Like I like the sort of
more gentle episodes, but it hasto have something going on, like this

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has nothing other than what's going onin the world today. Let's make a
comment on that. Does that almostmake this more similar to the Jordan Peel
Twilight Zone than we realize? Yeah? Yeah, I mean the Jordan Peele
Twilight Zone, in my opinion,fails because it's too topical for its own
good. Like a child president inthe vein of Trump, isn't that weird?

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Like yes, But twenty thirty,forty fifty years from now, when
people are watching it on their CRTTV and the apocalyptic wasteland, are they
really gonna care? Like, youknow, Like that's the question that I
have, is like, is thisstill a message that everyone can understand?
Which those original show episodes, evenepisodes in this season or this this series,

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this new series they still have somesticking power because they're not hyper topical.
Well you know what, like,uh, wordplay was very topical at
the time, and it picked atopic that was so relatable that it is
as relevant now as it was then, Whereas like you go back to the
original Tiles and there was an episodewith Fritz Weaver which is sort of this

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like this takedown of Hitler. I'mlike forty years on, you guys are
taken down Hitler, Like it's nottopical. We know you all went through
it, but it's even like it'sunwatchable now, like other than I love
Fritz Weaver and we'll watchum. So, you know, unless you have some
thing to relate what's going on,like in the zeitgeist to a greater sense

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of things like the past and possiblythe future, like don't bother and certainly
don't bother if you don't have afucking story to tell, because that's what
it seems to be more often thannot. It's just like there's this savings
and loan kind of situation going on, or you know, the women are
being abused, like you know,we gotta make a comment on that,
like what am I wrong? Wasthe was the Georgia arm Mart was not

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this season. The Toys of calabamwas not the season. Yes, yeah,
it was like right at the beginning. Oh that that was halfway through
last season. Really, Oh Jesus, Okay, so I was gonna say,
like that one was you know thatthat's pretty good If that was in
this season, I can't really discountthe season overall, but I guess not
now this one. This season startedwith a Jay Michael schri Strasinski episode,

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and it started with that one aboutHarry Morgan collecting all the junk in the
room. Oh right, I mean, and that's kind of set the tone,
yeah, kind of set the tonefor the whole thing. The next
one was the Baseball one, anotherquaint little episode. Yeah remember the Baseball
one for them alone? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good
one. It's it's all sort ofno teeth season twilight Zone, like the

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barest of plots and the barest ofsupernatural intervention? Is it? This isn't
the Twilight Zone at all. It'slike some like retirement home from the Twilight
Zone where all the food is prechewed. Go, we don't watch you
anymore. Harrie and Henderson's style let'smove on to the next episode. There
was an Old Woman, must wewe have to not so very long ago,

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before computerized toys and cathode raid charactersdid our speaking and thinking for us.
One of a storyteller's most important toolswas imagination, the imagination of an
audience. That was how it usedto be once upon a time. There
was An Old Woman air December seventeenth, nineteen eighty eight. It is directed
by Otta Hanus Honness I assume probablyOtta Harness, written by Tom Jay Astell,

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and it stars Colleen Dewhurst as anold woman who writes children's books,
but she's disillusioned with all those darnkids in their darn vhs. Yes,
yeah, yep boy, And that'sit. Good night folks, Like I
mean, that's the whole message ofthe episode is like, don't fight technology,

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because there's still place in the worldbooks and ghost children, yeah,
like books not movies. Yeah,because they died before the video revolution.
This reminds me of an old Twilightsound. Just the feel of it kind
of reminds me of the Kick theCan episode, like that type of whimsy,
which that was a remake of anold story right that they used in

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the movie and the movie version wasjust so Sacharin. I think I contacted
diabetes from watching it. We alldid. Thank you Spielberg. Oh that
was bad of old people, andI love kids. I'll do this episode.
Yeah, I didn't mind this one, but that's pretty much all I

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can say about it. Like,I thought the acting was very good,
especially our main character. I thoughtit was really kind of a shocker when
she finds the book that she haddedicated or inscribed to the dying child.
And when she finds it and shecalls up the parents like what the fuck
man it gave me this book?Only to hear that, yeah, our

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kid died today. We're just comingback from his funeral. It's like,
oh fuck. But you know what, like whatever attempt at like pulling heartstrings,
like that's like a fucking total failure. Like as sacronics, like the
Spielberg kicked the can one was likeI filled some emotion with those people,
and you know they're younger selves,Like here, I don't feel anything for

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anybody. Like it's just sort ofendemic of that this season where they won't
take a point of view like ifyou want to make me cry, then
fucking go for it like even ifyou fail, like and I see through
it, like I at least knowyou're intent here. I don't know.
I honestly don't know what they weretrying to say. No ghost children like

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books. I don't know, Likewhat what is there to internalize in the
message from the end of this episode, I'm gonna have to move away these
things, you know, and Ijust can't deal with this modern world.
And then that yeah, that yuppie. Yeah, I wanted to stope slap
them, like and they like kids, No come upance for them? Oh

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yeah, that's just I just youknow, I don't know. It's nothing
they love in this show anymore.Nothing happens this episode. Nothing has happened
in like the last five or sixepisodes. Good lord, it's like that
fucking remember that that opera one thePeter Meat Act. Oh god, it's
like an entire star Selena is dying. Yes where where there's just nothing.

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There's no steaks, there's no drama. It's just here's an idea I have.
This season feels like walking out toOld Yeller's barn to shoot him.
This whole season is us walking outto the barn to shoot Old Yeller.
Which made me cry because that wastheir intent and they fucking achieved it.
Yeah, that's what this feels like, like an old rabid dog that's still

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screaming out in the shed and you'rejust like being quiet out there, and
then you have to go shoot itbecause it's just like they shot this show.
I mean, they essentially have alreadycanceled this show. We're having to
deal with the way that they canceledthis show and still offloaded the episodes as
it is. So it's just likethis old rabid dog, just like growling,
we need another twenty episodes. Whatare you got, Well, we
have all of these rejections right here, Like that'll do? Man, I

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know, and I guess it waskind of inevitable. Yeah, like no,
none of us. Well no,like the show like we were going
to get to a point where likeI don't do any of us. Like,
I know, I'd never seen theshow before. Do you guys remember
having seen these episodes or is thisall new territory? Yeah, this is
actually a new territory for me.I thought I had seen the entire run
of the show, but I thinkI got through season two most of it

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because there were some episodes that Ihadn't seen in their initial run, then
rum but I my knowledge of theseason is woefully division. I don't think
I've seen one of these, andI feel no guilt in not having seen
them at the time, because Ithink it would have tarnished my opinion.

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No, that first season is sofucking good. I can't nothing can take
take that away. But this season'sit's bad, right, I mean it's
it's not even bad in a insultingway. It's just sort of blah,
like you know, it's like aYeah. I think the last episode I
remember seeing in the original run wasprobably the one that had joy ride,

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shelter skelter, and private Channel,which I ronically had a kid dropping a
walkman and then able to hear people'sthoughts. Yeah, yeah that was good.
Yeah, we better better than this, better than twenty twenty, but
yeah, and better than this.This old lady who lived in a shoe,
I mean, like I said,I liked her and I liked her

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performance, but yeah, then itjust made me mad. Yeah, the
yuppie couple may agree, And thenin the fucking real estate agent who starts
up raiding her, I thought,yeah, turned to go you know you
work for me, right exactly?Yeah, like something that she needed to
take a stand somewhere around here.She just doesn't. She just goes to

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visit a sick kid and then thatkid dies, and then she's got ghost
children. Like there's no rhyme orreason to any of this, and she
doesn't seem to be scary at allby those ghost children, completely nonplussed.
She's so happy to finally have anaudience, because you couldn't find an audience
for children to read books too.In nineteen eighty eight it was all over

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and it continues to this day,Like what it doesn't even make sense,
like kids are still reading. Andalso like you're gonna tell me that she
couldn't just like go on like publicaccess and read these stories like a mister
Rogers type thing, which was sobig in the eighties. Yeah, Like
she's a famed author we're led tobelieve, right, like of children's books,
like like a like an R.L. Stein or Shell Silverstein or

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something like all right, No,now she's going to be a shut in
in her house reading to ghost children. What that doesn't seem like a positive
outcome here? It's the best wecan all hope for so are we led
to believe by the end that sheis done writing but will only read to
ghost children now that one book.Yeah, just the one book over and

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over again for the rest of herlife. Oh my god, it was
she in hell because then I likethis stuff. I mean again that I
don't. The way that they tellthis story is very strange because it would
seem like punishment at the end.Yeah, like that way I interpret it,
Like your stuff. She's like,I'm going to be useful now and

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read those kids go deep after thestory, wanting her to read it again,
read it again, read it.I love the idea of that episode.
Where was that Yeah, one wayout? Yeah, like no one
has been cursed to hell. Andthe last few episodes it's like, come
on, give me something, somethinglike you know, And that was the

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thing, Like sometimes things happen toyou in the Twilight Zone and they just
don't there's no rhyme or reason toit. You were a good person and
you had a bad day and nowyou're in hell. Like we can deal
with that. In fact, Ikind of crave that from this show.
Yeah, I mean, you justmade a left turn and you ended up
in a cursed village, or youended up literally on the road to hell,
or you invited or you I didthe Devil over to your house to

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play cards, Like why did thedevil show up? Please tell me why?
Oh wait, they never mention why. And you know what, I
don't fucking care that they don't mentionbecause the episode is so fucking good,
right, Like why did you know? Or he just shows up because you're
trying to solve a math problem?Yeah, okay, yeah, Like there
you go, Like I make senseto me. Yeah, I don't question

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it. It's the Twilight Like,it's the Twilight Zone. Don't tell me
why things are in the Twilight Zone. It's the Twilight Zone. You don't
have to. We are really assumeweird things are going to happen. I'm
not tuning into this show because it'sDesperate Housewives. I'm tuning into the show
because I want to see flights offancy or flights of terror or somewhere in
between. That episode with the kidon the plane with the walkman, he

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drops the walkman into the sink andthe plane gets hit by lightning. They
give us that reason. I rememberthinking, I don't need that. He
could have just been sitting in hischair and suddenly he hears a guy's thoughts.
So we would have been like,oh shit, Twilight Zone. I
mean, that's literally what happened inthe Jordan Peel one. He just starts
listening to that episode and they don'texplain it, like it's just okay.
Yeah. I mean that episode isstill kind of a bummer in a lot

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of ways because it kind of squandersa great idea, but at least it
gets it doesn't have to do lanternhanging, Like, come on, it's
just so fucking lazy. And nowwe have a twenty two minutes show that
abuses the fact that it's twenty twominutes long by not doing anything anyways.
Yeah, and how insulting it isit that, you know, in that

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first season we would get these interstitialepisodes that lasted maybe seven minutes, and
they knocked it out of the park. And now you've given twenty two and
you don't do anything at all,Like you don't even deliver it like a
decent character piece, Like we're justgiven the broadest brushstrokes of who these people
are and why they are the waythey are, and now here's a resolution

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for them. Yeah, this similarlead to Tales from the Crypt. It's
it hurts a lot to watch thisshow because I know how good it was.
Yeah yeah, but those were activelybad and instead these are just kind
of there, which is in away worse. Yeah, I mean those,
yeah, those end Tales from theCrypt episodes were a slog, but

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a real These are just kind oflike, what are they going to trot
out? Now, here's a pleasantlittle tale of nothing, right, Like,
I can't be mad, and it'snot like, you know, they
were, you know, insulting mein anyway. But at the same time,
like, what are we doing JayMichael? Yeah, all the roads
lead through j. Michael Straczynski asthe story editor. Maybe we can get

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him an an interview now with allthe praise we're heaping on it. Yeah
yeah, yeah right, yeah,holy shit. Yeah that. So on
the next episode of Dreams for Sale, we'll be taking a look at the
fourteenth and fifteenth episodes of the thirdseason, The Trunk, which stars Bud
Court, and Appointment on Root seventeen, which stars Paul lamatt I like him

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too. Yeah. Those are gonnabe good. Yeah, and none of
us know if they will or won'tbe, which is fun. Yeah,
here's here's hoping, right, here'shoping. So until then, Father Malone,
Where could people find you if theywere looking? If you're looking for
fund them Alone, go to findThem Alone dot com. You can check
out my show Dark Destinations that isa half hour radio drama that takes listeners

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to other worldly and uh supernatural towns. Um. You can also check out
my YouTube channel you can link thatalso links off of Found Them Alone dot
com. I've got that kind ofa review show and weirdo little animations I
make these days. Check me outover there. Obagoul dude. Yeah,

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yeah, well that one's increasing inpopularity. I've noticed over the past month
or so, I've got like fivehundred new views. So it's like somebody
sees it and shares it. Iguess so, Gobba Gooul dude, it's
a thing. We're ahead of theGobba Gooul train. I was, well,
maybe it's that that that fucking Newarkmovies coming out, Like yeah,
like searching for Sopranos, now theywant Goba, which is delicious. I

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mean, yeah, what about you, Mike, Where where can people find
you? You can always find meover our Projection Booth podcast dot com.
I'm sorry, I don't have acool little you know, personally you are.
I've got Mike White site dot com, but I don't have anything up
there. I've got just garbage Iworked on years ago. So is that
Mike White site or Mike White pychno site site. Yeah, that's psych

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though. It'd probably be good thoughwhen you get there and it's just nothing
nothing type out psych. Wait,spell, it's psyche without the P.
Yeah, man's jad you fucker?S I k E? What the what
kind of animal are you? Andhow about you? Chris? As for
me c stashu dot com, Cs t A c hiwu dot com.

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It's unfortunately hard to spell because it'smy fucking last name. So there you
go. That's where all the stuffthat I work on is on Culture Cast,
Chronicles from the Crypt ranking on Bass, Barney Miller, Scary Stories.
We tell. There's a lot,but you can find it all at cstashu
dot com. As for this podcast, twilight Zone eighty five dot com or
twilight Zone eighty five on Twitter oron Facebook twilight Zone eighty five and on

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iTunes and Google. All those placesyou can find this show. Big thanks
as always to Roxy drive at Neutrondreams for the music for the show,
and we'll catch on the next episode.