Episode 40: The Trunk / Appointment on Route 17

The Trunk stars Bud Cort as a pushover hotel manager who discovers an abandoned trunk that holds within a whole new life. Appointment on Route 17 is a tale of transplantation and rekindled romance featuring Paul LeMat

Episode Transcript

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and this is Father Alone and weare the host of Dreams for Sale,
a once a month look at ourfavorite iteration of the twilight Zone,
the twilight Zone nineteen eighty five.If you could see my co host,
they're smiling right now, because thatis bold faced lie. Now you know
what. This actually still remains myfavorite iteration of the Twilight Zone. It's
just that I can't handle the backend wait even eat, I mean even

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more so than the original. No, not the original, well, I
don't know, I mean if youwere to say, m yeah, the
thing is the first iteration of theshow. It ran so long and it
had so many episodes that they werebound to have better ones than we had.
Here and they had Rod Startling runningthe fucking thing stable of writers.
The first show, I think isempirically a better show. But you could

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make a case for the first seasonof this show being really like as good.
Yeah, I mean, I meanempirically the first show has to be
the best one for a lot ofreasons. It's the original, It sets
the tone, it makes these othershows what they are. But like,
I could see why you would saythis would be your favorite iteration of the
show, because it's still pretty good. At least the first season is right
the first season, and you know, it's more personal to me, Like

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I didn't grow up in the latefifties early sixties watching it, because it
would have I'm sure i'd be like, nothing is better than this if I
had, if I had, butit certainly hit me where it was hitting
the viewers. Then with that firstseason with stories that were completely relatable and
utterly terrifying in some cases. Wellyou, Mike, is this is this

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your favorite iteration of the show oris it the original? I think if
I were just to go by thenumbers, I can probably think of more
favorite episodes from first iteration than eventhe second iteration. I mean, there
were some really good segments of this. It feels like we're wrapping up the
entire podcast, but I mean we'vegotten to the point now we're like,

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we have no love for this show. So I'm curious, like where does
this like where is this show goingto rank? Because I think even Father
Malone's kind of said it like hecouldn't have anticipated this right now, Yeah,
and I think, I mean,yeah, I think Father Malone,
you and I are just about thesame age, So yeah, I was
right there with you on whatever FridayNight or whenever they would play this,

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and it's just like, wow,some of them just blew your mind.
I mean the Shadow Man and justyeah, to see the blind Man or
whatever that episode was. There weresome really good ones and it really got
you. But then even going backand seeing some of the originals, like
to Serf Man, it's like,Okay, I think I think I'm still
all about the original incarnation. Yeah, I will can see that. The

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Howling Man by Chuck Beaumont in theoriginal run of the show is one of
the best pieces of television ever committedto films, So that alone is probably
better than everything in the first seasonof this show. But yeah, yeah,
I mean I can appreciate that thatis a better version of the show,
but this is my favorite version ofthe show. Now about you,

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Chris, you've seen actually four differentincarnations, because I think you've watched more
of the two thousand and two showthan either Father Malone or I combined.
That would actually have to be myanswer, as kind of like a like,
like you said, Father Malone,like the one that I saw the
most of growing up was the upnfor his Whittaker. I remember seeing that

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show, the episode where they're likeit's like the Sims. I remember that
episode vividly, the racism episode,which I still think is actually a pretty
good episode all things considered. Imean, we haven't really had a racism
episode in this show, think becauseI don't know how well it. I
mean, I guess we kind ofhave. But the one yeah hitherin'on not
so bold face, it couldn't likelook at him right whatever? Right well,

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and then the Chinese guy who issuper angry about how he's been treated
unfairly, which I understand, butlike the two thousand and two shows,
racism episode I think still works andlike it's not it's heavy handed, but
like it's this way. It's lessheavy handed than any of the Jordan Peel
stuff is. And I think,is it John Travolta suddenly awake in a

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world where whites of the man.It's not that movie that I just recently
found out was a real thing.Yeah? Oh yeah, yeah. It
sounds like Charmer of a film.Crowd makes you think, doesn't it?
Oh? God? So, speakingof thinking, let's put our thinking caps

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on and talk about the forty nineand fiftieth episode. If there's the fiftieth
episode of the third season of TheTwilight Zone, those episodes with the Trunk
and Appointment on Root seventeen. It'sbeen said that all good things come to
those who wait. This is WillieGardner, a man whose lifetime of waiting

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is about to end. So TheTrunk aired December twenty fourth, nineteen eighty
eight. It is directed by SteveDeMarco, written by Paul Chitlick and Jeremy
Bertrand Finch and who does its starWhile it stars Father Malone's favorite, everybody's
favorite, mister Bud Court. Can'tgo wrong with Budd Cord straight man unless
you're watching this episode. Boy.Yeah, So he plays like a Nebbish

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man who works at the hotel andhe finds a trunk that gives him everything
that he wants, and he findsout that he'd be careful, be careful
what you wish for. I guessI don't know. Maybe he doesn't end
like I don't know if i'd wantto go into the magical trunk and then
come out of the magical trunk,but probably not be careful what you wish

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for. But in are I guessnot? Because this is a this has
a positive ending. So let mejust let me tilt back here, so
the poster behind meld mod because thatmovie is one of, if not my
all time favorite, and Bud Courtcan do no wrong in my eyes.
And he acquits himself here as mostof the guest stars who end up in

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shitty episodes tend to do, likethey don't stop being good performers. Um,
but this episode was just like whatand if you were, if any
of us were given anything for awish, would the first thing you do
be throw a party for all thedrunken reprobates and bullies you've had to deal

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with your entire existence. It's likelike he finally gets an opera. I
mean, should we not like thischaracter? Like is that what they're trying
to say? Because I like,give me a way to kill these people
so I can get away from them, exactly like I want a deed to
a house very far from here whereI never have to work again or deal
with runks and bullies. Like what? Logic doesn't work in this show anymore?

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It makes no sense. This episodeactually makes zero fucking my question.
Okay, So he says, like, you know, if I had a
nickel for every time, and thensuddenly it's filled with nickels. These are
the nickels that you would have gottenif that wish had ever come true,
And then he just keeps taking stuffout of it. Does he at some
point just pull out a big wadof cash and then go buy those furnisure

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items or are we supposed to believethat the furniture items came out of the
trunk? Am I overthinking the episode? Yes? Oh well, you're definitely
giving this a lot more thought thanthe writers did, because it it doesn't
work. I mean, the wholetwist quote unquote at the end is just

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ridiculous. I don't get it,and I don't get how the lady gets
the trunk At the end, it'slike, where did this come from?
How did this get here? There'sa perverted my house get him like he's
just like, oh this is him, sexy man coming out of this fucking
trunk, Like I wish I hada man to marry. Yeah, and

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here's Bud Court with the eyeliner,that horrible hairdo that he has. Thank
god it slicked back at that point. Yes, he's a god. Then
oh gosh, yeah, yeah,I'm expecting to draw a knife from out
behind his back. He looks.Oh god, three that would have been
good, all five foot two ofthem. Yeah, oh yeah, I

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was. I was screaming at thetelevision just that the people, the gang
of youths quote unquote that youth thirtyfive year old youths that are hanging out
at this derelict hotel and just pickingon this guy completely, and yet he

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just falls for their tricks again andagain again. I'm like, what was
this like mid eighties trope? Itplucked up a lot where they would have
like a group of BULLI send agirl over to entice the guy, and
then it's all a joke. Youlose see them laughing in the background.
The character can like he is laughing, and it's like, you know,
they're making fun of you, andyou're like, you think the girl's serious,

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Like Howard? You know, thisdoesn't really convey confidence that the main
character is not a complete fucking moron. Yeah, which is Oh what Willie
Gardner, the asshole that Bud Coreplays, is a complete fucking moron.
Yeah, he is. Like Isay this with absolute certainty. He is
one of these stupidest characters I've everseen in this show. It what he

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does is invite people that he knowsare known assholes to his house effectively,
and then they try to kill himbecause they're known assholes. Right yeah,
okay, okay, and then heat the end, what is the lesson
here? I don't know. Ithought it was gonna be like that story

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from Scary Stories to Tell in theDark where it's like the woman on her
wedding day who was playing hide andseek. Have you guys ever heard this
urban legend? Now, it's likea woman on her wedding day and they
one of the things that they doafter they get married is they play hide
and seek and the woman goes intothe attic and she gets in a trunk,
and she gets a trunk and thetrunk slams on her head, knocks
her out, trunk locks whatever.She fucking dies in the trunk in the

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attic of the house. Twenty thirtyyears later, people are looking for stuff
in the attic, find the trunk, open it, and there's fucking the
woman dead as the day she wasbored. I thought that's where they were
going with this, like and it'ssome stupid shit. Instead it's like really
stupid. That reminds me of whenmy dad used to dress up as Santa
Claus and one year he didn't comehome for Christmas, which I laughed uproariously

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about when I was watching Gremlins inthe theater and I had people shushing me
and one woman saying that I wassick for laughing at that. So when
they did the Lincoln's Birthday thing andthe sequel, I felt very vindicated.
Yeah. First, when it's it'sthe Santa got stuck in the chimney thing,
right right, what's the stars?Yeah, no, no, you

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go ahead, father alow. Ohyeah. In the second one, at
at like a certain point where thingsare going crazy around them, Phoebek starts
to say, oh, this remindsme of a time on Lincoln's birthday,
like, which is just a callback to the to the Santa thing,
and then they're like, we don'thave time for this, right, And
there was a man with a witha beard and a soap top hat.
Yeah yeah, I mean that's whereI thought they were going with this,

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because I was like, Oh,he's gonna get locked in the in the
crate and that's it, like he'sdead now. But nope, cut to
the stupidest ending in this history ofthis show. At least, coda to
that. So far, so far, so far. Yeah, it reminded
me a little bit of another Wishepisode that we watched, i think last
season, where was the woman thatwe keep seeing showing up in burniey Miller

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where she can wish things, butthen it has all the consequences of the
wish, Like I remember it waslike I wish that my neighbor could find
love or something, but then thateffect you remember, right, yeah,
yeah, So there's like all ofthe consequences that happened, and there's no

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consequences to Willie's wishes, So I'mlike, Okay, well, that's always
you know, I'm waiting for themonkey's paw kind of thing or the genie
who is going to fuck him over, like if I had a nickel for
every single time, And then Idon't know, the nickels are counterfeit and
he gets arrested or something or whatevercomes out of this, but there's no
consequence, and it's just the limitsof his dumbass imagination for the stuff that

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can come out of the trunk.And then yeah, I don't know why
you hide in the trunk. It'sjust like this is a magic thing.
Leave it alone. He didn't wishfor a new security system for his building,
yeah, or a gun or anything. Hey hey, Mike, do
you want to guess when that episodethat you're talking about was first season?

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Yeah? Okay, wow, thatwas a while ago. Yeah. And
the woman are you talking about,Utahagan? No, wasn't that she might
have been, but this was Ithink there's just Candy Azara. Okay,
Yeah, that was the first season. That's how wow that was? That
was we forgotten since then? Rememberhow good the first season was. Yeah,

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so that the rest of these episodesshould be. We'll just talk about
our favorite episode episode is still kindof okay. Yeah, yeah, it's
a lot better than this one.I don't know what this episode was going
for, but for once, insteadof just being kind of okay and inoffensive,

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it is so stupid it becomes offensive. It's offensively dumb in the way
that it's written because it is writtenwithout internal logic, and by without internal
logic and the care do things thatliterally goes it. Once again, I
do this every show when they startto fail. I have to wonder who
was who was steering the ship atthis point, like it was there was

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there no process. It was justlike here, go write this, and
then they show up and go,okay, now we're just gonna film it,
like like the very simplest, likewhat are you trying to say here?
Would solve so many problems with thisseason. Just uh, what is
your point with this? I wonder, because by the end of this show,
we're just like I'm just glad tobe working. Yeah, gotta be

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it, because that's the only explanationbehind this show being this dumb at this
point, like having yeah, Itheorized that I theorized one another episode it
was probably just like these are likethe rejac pile right, Like, you
know, they were like, thisisn't even worth rewriting. Just just leave
it in that trunk. People willjust eat that up. And now they're

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like, oh, okay, we'lljust just take this. This is done.
Yeah. Yeah. It feels verymuch like satisfying contractual obligations to get
a third season of this show out, Like okay, whatever kind of just
nonsense can dribble out of Jay,Michael Straczinsky and everybody else's pens. Like
that's what it feels like. Itfeels like you said, Bather Malone just
rejects yeah, and what's a shame? Is Like I remember, I don't

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remember when Twilight Zone Magazine was out, but there were still stories from Twilight
z Own Magazine that I can rememberto this day. It feels like they
should have at least used that aslike a seed bed for stories and then
like yeah, great, you know, let's let's do this thing that you
know. It just feels like,yeah, where where are these stories coming

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from? How is this approval processhappening? Because I agree with you there
there were a lot of really goodstories in Twilight z Own Magazine. I
think at this point they were justlike what is the cheapest way to fulfill
our obligation to get this thing syndicated, Like we're not going to pay out
to an author from Twilight Zone magazineto get it to adapt it at this
point, you know. Yeah,well, I mean, and the other

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thing is when you look at theseepisodes, they're all at least these four
for the most part, also lookreally cheap. So oh my god,
yes, it feels like on topof everything else, they're like, the
scripts are just kind of ah andthen oh, they look like they're all
shot on a set, like itdoesn't even look like film. Sometimes there
are times where this looks so cheap. I'm like, is this three quarter

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inch video that you're shooting on here? Soap opera? Yeah? Even you
know, they did that on theoriginal to run of The Twilight Zone there
for like a season, like wherethey were they're saving money that way,
but they man, the episodes stillcontinue to be quality. Yeah yeah,
yeah, once they got to thosehour long episodes, I remember those being
kind of weak. And that wasalways my problem with and I'm sorry I'm

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going off in a tangent, butthat was always my problem with the Outer
Limits. I was like, thesestories would be a lot better if they
were about half as long. Youknow, you've got a half an hour
worth of story. You don't havean hour worth of a story. And
with these things that were watching here, twenty two minutes sometimes feels like way
too much. I'm like, youguys have eight minutes worth of a story

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here, get to it. Yeah, could they realistically pad this story out
to an hour? Like, ohmy god, can you imagine that nightmare?
Not awful fucking horrifying idea? Likewho, when the hell would someone
would watch it? Yeah? Therewere there were some episode season one and

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season two where I thought like thetwenty two minutes was a hindrance, like
they should have given this one thefull hour. That is not the case
with any season three episode. Waytoo long. These wouldn't even most of
these stories wouldn't even be acceptable,as like the little interstitial stories in between
the other seasons, right, Imean, if you boil this one down,

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it's you know, guy finds atrunk that grants him wishes dot dot
dot, gets picked on at aparty, hides in the trunk, gets
wished into re existence by a lovelornwoman. Okay, that the whole story.
I mean, I said eight minutesbefore. I think that even might
be stretching it. Yeah. Igenuinely cannot believe that this is a twenty

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two minute episode because nothing happens.I'm just pleased I don't ever have to
watch it again. Yeah. Yeah, trying to look at the positives here,
yeahives here, massive positives are wedon't have to watch this. But
on that note, let's talk aboutthe fiftieth episode of the show and the
fifteenth episode of the third season,Appointment on Route seventeen. One Man,

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one Heart, an obsolete fact oflife witness Tom Bennett, a man who
accepts his new organ is just onemore item that money can buy. So
this episode is directed by Renee Bonnier. It is written by Haskell Barkin,
and its stars Paul matt as aman who gets a heart transplant. A

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heart transplant in the Twilight Zone.That's how you write a fucking intro for
this stupid ass episode, guys,not one man, one heart, one
solution Like no this season. Thisseason is not only like the Gentle season,
where they were no longer interested inany rough edges on their fantastical musings,

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but it also seems to be theseason where a bunch of baby boomer
you know, bottom tear screenwriter slashtelevision writers got to vent about how they're
like lost idealism, that this felta lot like that with Paula Matt's character.
You know. Oh yeah, aman, remember when we were young

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and cool. We can do thatagain. I just need someone's heart to
do it. Episode. What wasthe name of that episode, the one
with the episode that you're talking about, the one with them I'm oh,
yeah, yeah, yeah, theone where they're fucking each other as younger
versions of them. Yeah, yeah, Dennis or Cliffs the singer. Okay,

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wait, no Cliff, No,no, the clifty young was the
vet. Yeah, that's right.I can't remember who that was the Okay,
no, they all blend together intheir they do they do? Oh
man, I mean we again.I've seen this story done so many times,

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so many times better. I mean, why isn't it he got the
eyes of a serial killer or something? Why isn't it you know, the
John mulaney joke about the eyes ofJerry Orbach. You know, that's a
better plot than what we're watching here. I mean, I feel strongly drawn
to this diner. Yeah, thisgirl, she's why could this be?

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And he is such a reap.It's like, I mean, the guy's
heart would be pumping straight to hisdick. I just got to point this
out, like, oh my god, it's ravage. That was the the
other eighties thing. That's sort ofthat mane of hair look for my successful
yuppies, Like look terrible, that'swhat I'm going The worst I've ever seen

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wind blown back hair, like I'ma lion, damn it. You know
what, I can rock a suit, but I can also rock an open
denim shirt. Yeah, that's greatwork on the weekdays. Yeah, it's
very much the Gordon Gecko like youcan wear it plastered down with gel or

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moose, I should say, andit'll be fine for work, but then
you can just let it fly freeand you're convertible on the weekend to be
the hipster guy. Look what Imean. Yeah, if you're seeing and
I'm going for it, man,you got over the twenty first century,
Gordon will be a man with blondehair that's dyed blood. Oh yeah.

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But I also I'm not a sociopathlike Gordon Gecko or Paul the Matt's character.
I guess he was an asshole.At one point. He definitely is
at the start of this episode.So I guess it takes a while for
the heart to change you. Yes, sure? The fuck? I mean,
why wasn't it immediate? Like usingthe logic of this episode, the

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moment it's put into his body,he should start feeling things for this woman.
Also, I would like to pointout it is a creepy episode,
like just very creepy. It is. He is a total creep Oh no,
I think we should start seeing eachother. What do you think?
Oh God, I don't like whata perverse I like, no one would

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write that story in twenty twenty one, Like nobody, you know what you
could if you were to focus onthat and like try and deal with the
levels of creepiness. But this isthis thinks it's being sweet. I mean,
what was that movie? Was it? Heart Condition with Denzel and Bob
Hoskins? Yeah, yeah, ohyeah, the movie that totally doesn't feel

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like it should exist, but yetsomehow does. Yeah. I mean I
kind of like that movie better thanthis episode. Someone threw into a bag
and start pulling them out with ideas. Bob Hoskins, Denzel Washington, guy
who gets a black man's heart aracist cup, racist co Yeah, and

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he learns a lesson. Yeah.There was a great movie called Change of
Mind where it was Raymond's saint Jackwho he gets the mind of a white
guy put into him. And thiswas oh god, early seventies or late
sixties, and that dealt with racereally well because it was an actual brain

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transplant into a black guy. Andthen like, okay, here's how this
white guy's experience in this black guy'slife. Really good. I did much
better than this. There are usingtwo headed transplant is but oh god,
it's like yeah, Rama Land andRosie Greer. Yeah, Simpsons, you

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have two of everything. Yeah,where Homer gets what is it snake's hair?
Oh god, and he becomes youknow, he wants to kill Bart
because I think Bart is the onewho turned him in, right, So
it's like slideshow bob Ish like Iwould. I mean, it's essentially the
same idea. Like this is suchan un novel concept. It's like hell

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to pay the Amazing Stories episode.Yeah, it's the the hair from the
person that died from the French Revolutionmaybe. Yeah, so that's where the
Simpsons ripped him. Yeah. Yeah, that's a great episode. It's it's
so like you said, Father Moon, it's so just kind of just not
there. Yeah yeah, like likenothing, We're gonna tell the sweet romance

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and the only Way, but it'sthe Twilight Zones. We're gonna put this
twist on. And by the way, they are, like there are actual
stories of people who went through somethinglike this where like somebody you know,
had a transplant and then like findsthemselves attracted to that person, like they
find each other or like, youknow, it's all sort of happenstance.
So like even those stories are moreinteresting than this because there's really no supernatural

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thing going on here at all,Like shouldn't And I'm so tired of the
yuppies well yeah yeah on this show, Like yeah, well I don't.
I don't feel anything for them,and I don't want to understand them.
They're fucking dickheads, isn't I meaneighty nine like peaked dickhead yuppy? Yeah
yeah yeah, Bright Lights, BigCity, Baby, less than zero,

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you know, yeah, you knowwhat they should do when they reboot the
Twilight Zone. Inevitably the next time, they should do this. But it's
a man's face, it's a facetransplant. Oh, like taking his face
off. Yeah, I'm putting ita cast truth style. Oh okay,
yeah, and it's like I waslike, like, I can't even look
it, but I'm in love withyou. I have your ex husband's face.

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I literally can't look at you rightnow. This is creeping me out,
Like, yeah, this is isthis a fucking weird premise that doesn't
make sense and doesn't really but itfeels quite doesn't it. It's nice and
quite uber body parts? Yeah?Oh yeah horror movie yeah, Eric Grid
because yeah, I was gonna say, I couldn't remember who was involved in

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that one. Yep. I thinkit was Michael Perey too, that solid
chunk of wood Michael Perey. Yeah, oh yeah, we're talking about his
very solid acting style. Yes,it's good, Yes, it's good.
You prop them up and let himgo. That's why he's still in everything
today. That's right. Wow,look at the tangents we're more interested in

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than talking about this episode. Yeah, have I said skip to any of
these? Do I need to know? I thought people were in on it
when oh my god, and herboyfriend his heart is now an older Uh,
Paula met deserved better. I don'tknow. I don't know why he

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didn't become a bigger thing. Imean, was it just bad roles?
Was he an asshole? Or isan asshole in real life? I mean,
you never know on Facebook. Ifollow him on Facebook. It seems
nice there. Remember when there wasan age when we didn't know all the
minutia of everyone's lines and oh god, yeah, you just had to kind

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of speculate, like why didn't Whywasn't paulam had a bigger star? He
should have been. We like himexactly right. Didn't Rose McGowan get all
these roles for yeah the Night inlate nineties? Why was that? Seems
kind of strange, It's weird.Whenever happened to Annabella Skura? Yeah,
why is it? And Mira Sorvinonot really working anymore? Yeah, she
won an oscar? Yeah that's unusual. Yeah, boy, the you know

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to your point though, foll theMalone, You're right, the internet is
for as good as it is,it is also just as bad. Yeah.
Yeah, it's allow, spug,pretentious and miserable talking about Highlight Zone
and convincing people that we hate thisshow and like that's the saddest part about
this. Yeah, Like I know, that we have people that listen to
this show, and we have peoplethat have written reviews about this show that

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go like, you, guys,don't fucking like this show, why are
you talking about it? And that'snot fair because the fact that we whether
whether we like it or not,is unimportant. It's that we're able to
be critical regardless of those facts.And Father Malone loves this show, at
least the first season. We lovethe Chronic, we love Tales from the

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Crypt, and we were able tobe fucking objective about that show as well.
Objectivity needs to be removed from ouropinions. And it's unfortunate that these
episodes suck. But what are wesupposed to do? Say how good they
are and then people go watch themand feel like they wasted their time.
That's not fair either. Yeah.No, I wouldn't wish these on anyone
out of a trunk. We didn'tstart this show because we hate We started

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it because we liked it so much. I remember how good that show was.
Yeah, great, let's talk aboutit. Yeah, we were talking
before the show. I had mentionedthe other show that I had pitched for
the three of us to do,and that got shot down because the perception
was it was not a good show. Using that logic, we should not
have talked about this show if itwas, if we had known it was

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going to be bad. Yeah.Yeah, it's just it's unfortunate because you
would have hoped that this show wouldn'treally fall apart this fast. I would
propose another podcast, a companion piece, if you will, to the one
season show, where we just talkabout the one season of a show that
was good right before it jumped offa cliff. Yeah. Yeah, I

(30:42):
don't know about you, guys,but I love when someone tells me to
watch a show, but just watchpast the first season. It gets better
then, like right. I hada friend tell me you should be watching
Agents of Shield and I said,I tried, and it's just not for
me. And he was like,but the beginning of the third season,
once you get there, And I'mlike me to watch two full seasons of
a garbage thing so it can potentiallyget better at some point. No,

(31:06):
I think I'm up to season sevenon that thing, and no, it's
not good. It's never been good. I came back for ghost Rider just
because I love ghost Rider, butthen I just watched the episodes that ghost
Rider was in I fast forward anduntil it arrived and then you know,
yeah, and those weren't that goodeither. No, they were garbage.
Yeah. I mean that's why Ididn't watch mad Men, because everyone's like,

(31:26):
oh, the first two seasons aren'tvery good. But once you get
past those, it was like sixteight hours of TV. Guys like,
right, literally have anything. Ilove that show. I'm just gonna say
that. Yeah, but you arethe first two seasons that show good?
Yeah, I think so, Well, maybe I'll watch it, but you
know, at this point there's otherthings. I almost prefer the first two
seasons over the rest of the show. Well, maybe the people that I

(31:48):
was listening to opinions were wrong,that's a possible. Yes, they certainly
were, at least over here.But you know whose opinions not wrong?
Ours on this show because it wasnot good anymore. And with that in
my mind, on the next episodeof this show, we're continuing our trod
towards the end of this particular seasontwilight Zone with the sixteenth and seventeenth episodes

(32:08):
of the third season, the ColdEquations and Stranger Impossum Meadows So Cool,
So come back for those until then, follow them alone. Where can people
find your smug, pretentious and miserableopinion? Yeah you can. You can
always find it at father Malone dotcom. Check out links there to my
podcast Dark Destinations, which is ahalf hour radio drama that I write and

(32:30):
produce, and links to I don'tknow YouTube and all the podcasts, including
the one that Chris and I didabout Tales from the Crypt, Chronicles from
the Crypt, What about your onlyfans um? You know they took it
down. Oh too sexy, toomuch, Duddy, just too too much
for them to handle. Mike,what about you? Where? Where can

(32:51):
people find you on the internet?You can always find me at the Projection
Booth, which is available at Projectionboothpodcast dot com. And you can't also
fine. Chris and I talked aboutBarney Miller, which so far hasn't fallen
off a cliff and I'm hoping itdoesn't because we've got one, two,
three, four or five five moreseasons to go. Yeah, seasons,

(33:14):
but so far it's fantastic. Wejust hit a high point talking about the
hash episode, one of the funniestthings I've seen, so thank goodness for
that. And yeah, we alsotalk about ranking and bass over on the
ranking on Bass podcast, which yourmileage may vary on that, but at

(33:34):
least we have a fun time talkingabout it. So you get to hear
Mike sing specifically on the Lord ofthe Rings episode. If you want to
hear it, go listen. Verypopular episode just because of the singing.
Yeah, it's Mike being able tohit those high notes that I'll tune in
as Glenn Yarborrow eat your heart out. It's actually better. Mike's position is

(33:57):
closer to what Frodo I would haveassumed would want song about it. As
for me, you can find mekicking my proverbial can down the road at
c stahiw dot com. That's myname, my last name with the first
letter of my first name attached toit. That's where you can go and
find all the links to the stuffI work on. My Only Fans is
not on there yet. I hadto take it down because they said,

(34:22):
like Father Malone, it was justtoo damn hot out there for they reverse
the decision. We can do it. We can be back on only Fans
O guys, right, Sorry,we can't. Yeah, no, I
tried that. They still said twosex sexy wow, green haired men just
they just do it for people sohard on the Internet. It's like redheaded

(34:43):
women, green haired men. Well, true me and uh, what's his
name? Oh, Dean Stockwell you'regonna go for Mark Ruffalo, yeah,
or ed Org Norton or Neu freeguy guy for ed Eric Bana. Yeah.

(35:04):
Yeah, I sag Eric Bana isstill my whole But seriously, um
no, there's no only fans,but that's where you can find the stuff
that I work on with these guys. As for this show, twilight Zone
eighty five dot com, twilight Zoneeighty five on Twitter as well, and
Dreams Forsale dot com. Maybe no, I think it's just twilight Zone eighty
five dot com and twilight Zone eightyfive dot com. Big thanks as always

(35:28):
to roxy Drive and Neutron Dreams forthe music for the show, and we'll
catch you on the next episode.