October 6, 2025 • 31 mins
Meade Heartfield
Join Bethany and Ericka for a special interview with DRI WITL's current chair Meade Heartfield. Meade talks about her super inspirational passion project Inflammingo, committee news, her latest hot take, and her hopes for the committee after she steps down as chair (sad face!)
Be sure to follow Meade on instagram (@meademark) and Inflammingo (@inflammingo).
For more information about our WITL group, please visit our instagram page at @DRIWITL. If you are interested in being a guest on the podcast, please reach out to Bethany or Ericka on instagram or via email.
Bethany - bwhite@evans-dixon.com
Ericka - ericka.esposito@sigsauer.com
We would love for you to share this podcast with your friends, subscribe to our channel, and give us a rating and review. Thanks friends! Stay tuned.
To learn more about DRI and the Women in the Law Committee visit www.DRI.org.
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Join Bethany and Ericka for a special interview with DRI WITL's current chair Meade Heartfield. Meade talks about her super inspirational passion project Inflammingo, committee news, her latest hot take, and her hopes for the committee after she steps down as chair (sad face!)
Be sure to follow Meade on instagram (@meademark) and Inflammingo (@inflammingo).
For more information about our WITL group, please visit our instagram page at @DRIWITL. If you are interested in being a guest on the podcast, please reach out to Bethany or Ericka on instagram or via email.
Bethany - bwhite@evans-dixon.com
Ericka - ericka.esposito@sigsauer.com
We would love for you to share this podcast with your friends, subscribe to our channel, and give us a rating and review. Thanks friends! Stay tuned.
To learn more about DRI and the Women in the Law Committee visit www.DRI.org.
#DRILawyer
#DRICommunity
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Hello, friends, and welcome to say hello to my little
friends friends here with Bethany.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
White America.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
And we have a special guest today, Ned Heartfield. Hello, Mead,
thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Hey, thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Do you want to start by introducing yourself?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
So, I'm Meade Heartfield.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
I practice in Birmingham, Alabama at Bradley a Rant.
Speaker 6 (00:53):
Also have a jack in Mississippi office.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I'm licensed in three states.
Speaker 6 (00:57):
I handle multi state litigation, have clients across the nation
in a variety of spaces to include product liability, financial services,
and most recently intellectual property. So do some commercial lit
and some general lit. And that's litigation for you non litigators,
I think most people out there and dear ire litigators.
(01:17):
But I also do regulatory advice in a service outside
general council for a couple of my clients.
Speaker 7 (01:23):
Oh me, We're not just coming to you from dr membership.
We're going worldwide with this, so you got to tell
the world.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
That you do it.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Okay, Well, in that case, I.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
Am a lawyer, I'm a philanthropist, and most recently i'm
a filmmaker.
Speaker 7 (01:39):
Which I also excited to talk about. Yes, tell us
about your filmmaking endeavors well.
Speaker 6 (01:46):
It started a few years ago and has culminated most
recently in the conclusion of my first documentary. About two
years ago, I realized that I had a story to tell,
and I was finally over the grief portion of my
journey with my mother and was in a position to write, direct,
and produce a documentary which is called in Flamingo. This
(02:07):
is the story of my mother's famous phrase, have a
Flamingo Day and what that means sort of a universal truth,
how we all can have a Flamingo Day.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
And then it also.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
Tells her journey with inflammatory breast cancer, and that became
our journey Team Sharry. She was Sherry Peers Heartfield, and
my sister and I were right beside her, along with
so many other members of Team Shearry, to support her
in this very rare form of breast cancer called inflammatory
breast cancer. And this documentary is intended both to honor
(02:39):
her legacy, her living legacy as a person, and to.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Spread awareness about this very rare form.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
Of breast answer that nobody knows about and nobody talks about.
So I'm super excited to have gone through that process
and to be in aition hopefully to.
Speaker 7 (02:53):
Share that with the world, just because I just just
because our list may not know much about inflammatory breast cancer,
can you give us, you know, the thirty second lay person.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Description of it and just kind of what it entails.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
And absolutely, this is the rarest, deadliest, least researched form
of breast cancer.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
There is no early detection.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
It does not present in a lump, it does not
show up on a mammogram.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
There is in fact, no IBC specific treatment protocol or
detection method.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Other than by the eye and the eyeball test. It
presents late.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
So out of four stages, your earliest known detection is
three B. That is very different from your typical breast
cancer story. And having experienced that firsthand in watching my
mother's journey, she was diagnosed with stage four.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Upon diagnosis, and of course, being the.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
Lawyer that I am, I did the deep dive and
the life learner that I am, and did the deep dive.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Into the medicine, and there just wasn't anything out there.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
And only now, even though this disease has been known
for hundreds of years, only now are we beginning to.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Make some changes in the space.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
And there's a very very long road to go. But
one of the first key pieces is to make sure
that women, and I would argue everyone is aware because
it's not just women. Men can get breast cancer too.
I actually know some but people need to know about
this type of disease. And I think my mother, you know,
was fortunately or unfortunately a vessel for this message. And
(04:42):
what a lovely what a lovely package, because she was
just an amazing human being. So it's bittersweet that her
legacy continues in this way. But I've been so so
appreciative of the support that I've gotten in making the
film and now in trying to generate interest and support
around the film.
Speaker 7 (05:01):
Yeah, I know that this has been a labor of
love for you for a number of years, and I've
watched you just from when you started even kind of
thinking about it and then going to do it, and
just how long it's been going on that it's just
such a something to celebrate and it's just such a
silver lining on on what is, you know, such a sad,
tough story for you and your family. So I'm so
(05:22):
glad it's finally coming to fruition, And I know we
were lucky enough to see a preview of it a
few months ago, and it's just what I saw was
so beautifully done that like the whole thing I think
is I'm just going to be weeping the entire time.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
So I'm super excited to watch it when it comes out.
Speaker 7 (05:35):
I know Erica is and everybody else's, so I know
that we'll have more information about that when it's widely distributed.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Distributed so everybody can check it out.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yeah, and would.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
I would say if you guys are interested in learning
more about it.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
The best way to follow along with both the documentary
and just the disease itself is to check out the
website or find us on Facebook, book or Instagram, at
flamingo dot com or in Flamingo's on social and that
has two MS, so I n F L A M
M I n G O in Flamingo be your best
(06:10):
bet to make sure you stay connected.
Speaker 7 (06:13):
Awesome, Thank you, and we'll definitely put information about it
too on our socials, which I know are up and going.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
So I know too.
Speaker 7 (06:22):
You're here specifically because you are so sadly, so bittersweet.
You are current committee chair, but you are outgoing and
I wanted to give kind of a farewell, good farewell
on this podcast, but also give you a chance to
talk about everything you've done for DRI.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
I am for the Women in the Law Committee specifically.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Look, this is a group effort.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
That's what makes it so great is we have an
incredible group of women lawyers and non lawyers across the country,
various vendors, people that are committed in into legal space,
and people that are committed to women in the Law.
I've had the wonderful privilege of leading the Women in
the Law Committee for DRI for the last year, have
(07:04):
groomed through the process of serving in various leadership roles
along the way, and we'll be passing the baton to
Jennifer Nutter in October at the annual meeting, and then
we'll become chair Emerita for another year to continue to
support this wonderful group of individuals. So so happy that
we've done so much, including this podcast. So always an
(07:28):
evolving process and always a group effort, and.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
What privilege it has been to lead this group of.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Absolutely, and we're so fortunate to have had you lead
us over the past year. I know I personally have
been involved with the Women in the Law Committee for
a few years now and the committee under your leadership
has just been such a blessing. Truly, you've done such
a good job of getting everyone involved who wanted to
be involved.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
One question I had, you mentioned annual meeting.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Can you just talk a little bit about what the
annual meeting is for maybe some of our listeners who
are not familiar with that.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
Absolutely, So if you are stumbling upon this podcast and
you want to know more about Women in the Law
in particular this committee and this organization, we are DRI.
DRI means business and so it is the largest civil
defense bar in the nation. We host an annual meeting
every October that rotates throughout the country. This year it
will be in Chicago, and it's really a great opportunity
(08:25):
to get plugged into the organization as a whole.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Within the seminar, there.
Speaker 6 (08:31):
Will also be opportunities to connect with specifically the Women
in the Law Committee through our business meeting, which will
really be kind of a networking activity, and then we'll
also have a Woman in the Law dinner and some
other activities planned. So the first step is to sign
up and go and you'll find us, you'll.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
See us, We're on the agenda.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
All you need to do is show up and it's
really that simple, and we will help you get plugged.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Into this group.
Speaker 7 (08:58):
We're gonna have some big, garish buttons that will all
be wearing.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
You won't be able to miss us.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
If there's somebody's right, if there's somebody who's listening who's
never been to a DRI event before. Is annual meeting
an event that is okay to attend as your first time.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
Absolutely, I think it will be one of the largest
events that the organization hosts, and so it gives you
a window into how the.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Broader organization is structured.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
A lot of these substantive law committees that you may
want to join, a lot of topics that are relevant
to all of us as practitioners. And then, as mentioned,
it will give you an opportunity to get to know
those that are attending from the Women in the Law Committee.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Now, we always love.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
To follow that up by saying, came to the Women
in the Law Seminar which is solely dedicated to our committee,
and that event will be February twenty twenty sixth February
eighteen through twenty twenty twenty six in Orlando, Florida. Again,
we rotate throughout the nation and again those garish.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Buttons that you that you find on our badger's at.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
Annual meeting will give you an idea of who can
talk to you more about that seminar and why you
should attend.
Speaker 7 (10:11):
Yeah, and we're hoping that our next episode we can
devote to talking about our seminar, which is I think
one of our premiere events for women in the Law.
Is definitely something I look forward to every year or so.
We've talked a lot of business, but I think since
this podcast to say hello to our widdle friends, the
whole point is trying to get to know us all,
(10:33):
especially you need as our friend. So I thought it'd
be fun one to make you tell us what you
do for fun and then have some icebreakers.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
That I have not shown to either of you.
Speaker 7 (10:44):
Okay, keep things, keep things fun for a Friday afternoon, ladies.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I love it. Okay.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
So, as someone who has made a documentary that includes Flamingo's,
you can assume it is safe to assume that I
like fun and that I come by that honest, as
they say, because I watched that happen. I watched my
mother demonstrate that in the life that she was to
others and so gathering with friends and family has just
always been a big part of my life.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
So so I do love that.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
I do love to spend time traveling, both solo and
with friends and family.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
That's a that's a big thing in my world.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
As mentioned, I love to write, so writing in various
capacities also in my willhouse in a form of fun
for me. Maybe that's some fun for everybody, but that's
fun for me.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
And then maybe randomly maybe not.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
Since I have a love for the arts, I am
into music, so I actually sing in you know, a
couple of different places with a couple of different you
know groups, and yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
If I can ever find a time, I'll write some music.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
So I'll combine my love of writing and music.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
So yeah, that's that's probably my those are taking up
my time with fun.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
I love that I didn't know about the music, that
you were a songwriter in your spare time. So that's
so cool.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Maybe you'll bless this podcast at some point with one
of your songs.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
And part of one of your songs, you.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Can do a theme song for the podcast, right, so
there you go.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, okay, we'll put that on that to do list.
Speaker 7 (12:20):
Okay, So I do have some fun icebreakers and we
can all answer them. So mean, you're not just in
the hot seats. So we'll all answer these just as
a little fun get to know us. Since it's our
first episode. These are all ingest, they're not serious.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Uh. First, I have what is your biggest hot take?
Speaker 6 (12:39):
Okay, you're gonna appreciate this from Bethany, it's I don't
know this is my biggest, but it comes to mind
is we're all on this podcast and I'm talking to you,
who I know is also a Bravo you know person
you watch the Sas franchise.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
My hot take is that the best one the.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
Season by far is Miami, crushing it, crushing it. I
love the Real Househofs of Okay, it's it's like the
one franchise I don't watch.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
I know everybody has told me, you've got to get
into Miami.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I know everyone has said that too.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
And so many of them.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I know, I'm I'm I can't handle you know you
don't have time to watch them all, but yeah, you
got to pick your faves.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
I'm like a Salt Lake City diehard.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
That was what I haven't either.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
All you're missing out Salt Lake City is, So that's
John Oliver went on Stephen Colbert the other day and
was like, it's the best thing on television.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
So there you go. You've got John Oliver's recommending.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
For real houses with Salt Lake City too well, den it.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Best with vander Pump for a hot minute, and then
it's not even like on anymore. So I just kind
of stopped with Brabo, but I need to get back into.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
It, Erica, what's your biggest hottake?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
So I guess I was interpreting your question to me
and just more about like life, like hot takes in life.
I don't know, it's not It's not as fun as means.
But my biggest hot take is the importance of being
where your feet are and being present in the moment.
It sounds so cliche, but we might get into this
(14:14):
more later in the podcast. But Bethanie and I have
been through some things in the past couple of years,
and one of the things that I have learned through
the things that I've gone through is the importance of
truly being present and like soaking in the beauty of
everything that every single moment has to offer. And you know,
(14:36):
when you're thinking back to what happened in your past,
or you're worrying about what is going to happen in
the future, You're truly robbing yourself of the joy that
is in the present moment that you're in. So I've
devoted a lot of my attention and energy and time
to spreading meditation practices and presence to my friends, and
(14:59):
I done some meditations at some dear I conferences.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
So that is my not as fun, but that is
my hot take.
Speaker 7 (15:06):
I don't think that's a hot take at all. I
think that's lovely, very fun.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
Yeah, I've been thinking about that a lot in the
last number of days, and I'll find myself telling myself that,
not out loud, but internally.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Be where your feet are, Be where your feet are.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah, and it is fun.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
I think I think you're gonna you get you get
have a flamingo day. That's That's There's lots of ways
you can interpret that phrase, and the way you've described
it is one of them. So appreciating the today that
you have.
Speaker 7 (15:38):
Yeah, my hot take is that animals are great and everything,
but they shouldn't live with us in our homes. So
I'm like, be very very recently become kind of anti
animals in my home so much to the chagrin of
my children. I have always had a dog. I have
always had a pet of some sort, and I've been
(15:59):
living now for a year without one since I separated
from my husband, and it's been wonderful not to have
an animal to care for. So I know that's like
a super bad hot take, but I already have like
two animals and they're human and that's enough responsibility for now,
so I don't need another thing to take care of
my house.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
So I am team anti pet terrible.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
But I still have dogs.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
They still have cats. I just don't want them in
my home.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
That is very controversial.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
Yeah, yeah, no, they're great. They're wonderful. I love everyone
that rescues dogs. If I had the time and energy,
but it's not for me right now.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
To the contrary, I like to pretend like I gave
birth to my dog, so.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
I get it.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
Yeah, if I didn't have the humans whom I actually
gave birth, i'd probably have a dog that I felt
similarly about. But I got the bonus. Okay, but these
are much lighter. Your first celebrity crush, I'll go first,
and nobody's embarrassed. It was David Bowie from the Labyrinth.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah, I gotta this is digging deep.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
So maybe there's somebody before this, But what comes to
mind is probably like sixth grade Nick's on the block.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Maybe Joey McIntyre.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
Yeah, the name I was Joey too, the youngest one, Okay, Joey.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
I don't even know the first thing.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I mean, I'm sure I had a celebrity crush before this,
But the first thing that comes to mind is this
is so random. Daniel Powder who sang that song Bad Day.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Like I was. I totally vibed off of.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
That song in middle school when he came out, and
I just like had such a crush on him.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I love.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
I feel like that's random.
Speaker 7 (17:40):
But here's another fun one, another throwback when your first
AOL instant Messenger user name, Oh.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
Gosh, I don't remember wow for the archive of letters
and numbers, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
It was.
Speaker 7 (17:59):
My last name is so in high school, my nickname
is Whitebread, and so mine was w Bread ninety nine
on AOL. You could find me hit me at themel.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Account, so you can imagine girl.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
And then this is less. It's got to go somewhere, right,
So exactly.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
No, I have to give it to you know, uh,
the grocery store or wherever.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (18:28):
I have four Gmail accounts for that reason, ones for
like shopping accounts, ones for like Apple related things, ones
for something else, and then there's one that is still
a black hole that's like my personal email and its
people still me. I'm like, no, it's that I'm not
for gonna get it.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (18:43):
So the last thing that I had just is like
a fun we can just do a flash round of
this or that and they're funny ones. Just go with
your gut. Bad haircut or bad dye job.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Wait, I'm sorry say that on more time. You have
to pick a this or that.
Speaker 7 (18:57):
So I'm gonna give you two choices and you have
to pick one. It's just it's a quick thing. Okay,
bad haircut or bad dye job.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
That's tough. I was gonna say the same thing.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
And my reasoning is, I feel like you could fix
a bad dye job, but a bad.
Speaker 7 (19:16):
Haircut, yeah, okay. Aligned pineapple pizza or candy corn.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Pineapple pizza thing.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
Talking pets or talking babies, cocking pets.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
I think I agree with that either.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
I guess pets. I don't know. Yeah, even though I'm
anti pet, I'd rather.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
Talk about pets and babies, okay, or have them talk.
Depending on how you read that noise, I'm not sure
like which one is?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Are we talking about them?
Speaker 7 (19:50):
It could be interpreted to different ways, but either way,
I think I'm pro talking pets, winning the lottery or
finding your soulmate?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Oh, soulmate, still looking?
Speaker 6 (20:02):
Do you know anybody's in in that way?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Lottery?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I guess I'll give an answer that's like both of yours.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
I guess finding your soulmate is like winning the lottery.
Speaker 7 (20:16):
Oh, misquoted movies or mistaken lyrics. Mistaken lyrics, Yeah, mistake
lyrics as well. Test the waters or dive in the
deep end. I mean, I guess I'm kind of a
dive in the deep end, even though I feel like
(20:38):
I'm gonna test the waters the same same.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
I think I'm I think I'm like testing the waters,
but in truth, I'm one hundred percent dobbin off the
deep end.
Speaker 7 (20:49):
I like to believe that I'm less riskd verse than
I am. Glass has full or glass half empty?
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Full?
Speaker 7 (21:00):
Yeah, hassle, look at us, Look at us in our
growth and our optimism.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Catchupran. Now here's where we're really going to brass tack
ketchup a ranch. Mmm.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
I like both. I don't know. I feel like I
put them on different things.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
I think I'm gonna go with ketchup.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
It's much more versatile.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah, let's go with ketch up.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
All right.
Speaker 7 (21:24):
This is the dividing line. Phone in the bathroom or
no phone in the bathroom.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
Yes, but I will say I'm paranoid about it and
like I'm always covering it up, Like if I'm gonna
listen to music. Uh, you know, when I'm taking a shower,
I will cover up my phone with my speaker.
Speaker 7 (21:41):
Yeah that's yeah, I listen to my I use it
to listen to music in a shower too, or watch
the news while I'm doing makeup.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
So I'm team phone in the bathroom. Sorry.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
Y'all sort by price or by rating when.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
You start things?
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Show me what doesn't suck on Amazon.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
I guess it depends on what you're sorting.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Right too.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
But yeah, if I'm on a different if I'm on
different websites, but let's let's let's be real. I'm not
chopping on like Louis Vatan ladies. I'm a I'm a
budded chopper. I'm a bargain chopper. Sauce on the side
or sauce on top.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
I'll top. Let's go.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
An answer to places, sauce it up too much.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
I can't have an oversauced thing, but I like it.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
I like to have it on top, and then I
also like to dip.
Speaker 7 (22:39):
Mm hmm okay, okay, crunchy or smooth peanut butter.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Smooth smooth?
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Yeah? Same? Zombies are vampires?
Speaker 7 (22:53):
Mmm?
Speaker 6 (22:53):
Probably vampires over zombies, although I don't know that I'm
a fan of either.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
But don't fires.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
We're treating with zombies because they seem significantly easier to
kill than vampires.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Unless you get bitten by one.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Yeah, but same same with vampires.
Speaker 7 (23:13):
Right, Like, like vampires are like cunning.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
I've watched True Blood.
Speaker 7 (23:17):
Zombies just seem like they're radio is, like, just take them,
take them down with like a shot to the head.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Right.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
I don't know if you're with if anybody in d
R I had that answer, Yeah, has any expertise in
how to take out zombies or vampires? So we can
choose which one that would be great?
Speaker 4 (23:33):
I know, bad breath or body odor o.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
I guess I would go with bad breath because you
can at least keep your they can kick your mouth closed,
right versus body be hard.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
To hut or like you're distance.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
I guess it would.
Speaker 7 (23:52):
Who is that person relative in my life is really
the deciding factor for me and when I'm going to
tolerate with this, like are you a friend?
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Are you my romantic partner? You my child? Like?
Speaker 7 (24:05):
Who are you to me? And that's what I'll tolerate.
As far as what you're doing with your hygiene, working
hard or hardly?
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Working? Working hard? Always ladies working hard, right, working, hard working.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
We're on the record working hard right.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Guacamul or salsa walk all day.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
My sister just got me a sign that's like, don't
let anyone treat you like uh salsa, you are full
on glack baby.
Speaker 7 (24:42):
A store where every item is free or a restaurant
where every dish is calorie free.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Calorie free, Yeah, calorie free.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
I think I'm gonna go calorie free too.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I think a store where everything would was free would
be cool at first, but then it would get old,
like it would lose its shy.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Would lose the appeal, loud neighbors or nosy neighbors.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Oh woud give me prophecy. If you're having a good time,
I cannot hate on you.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
Yeah, and then last one, again, we're down to kids
versus animals. Babies dressed as animals or animals dressed as humans.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Baby dressed as animals.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
We find how about it?
Speaker 7 (25:41):
I'm animals dressed as humans personally in this category, but
babies dressed as animals are also very cute.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
It has to be a cute baby, though.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
I do love that we have a little bit of
variety because we were.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
We didn't disagree on every question.
Speaker 7 (25:55):
Yeah, so that's that's where I have for the light
portion of it. So Mead, we loved having you. We're
so sad to see you go as our outgoing committee chair,
and we loved having you on the podcast. Do you
have anything else you want to plug for today? Give
us your Instagram handles again for in Flamingo. Okay, yeah,
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go check.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Out in flammingo dot com with two ms I in
f L A M M I N G O. And yeah,
I'm over.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
On social at med Mark as well as in Flamingo,
so you can find me there and I'd love to
connect and you know, tell you more about whatever the
project or the IBC information, the science and anything you
want to.
Speaker 7 (26:41):
Or or law.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Bravo. I'd like to talk about that too, Bravo.
Speaker 8 (26:44):
Yeah, yeah, no, I think I would really love to
close this podcast in gratitude and just a huge thank
you for y'all's friendship and thank you for you know,
the opportunity to serve as chair and.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
The opportunity to lead lead the group.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
I do. I've always been inspired no matter the position
I've served in with the Committe, I've always been inspired
by by the members of this group.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
And whether or not leadership.
Speaker 6 (27:17):
Is your thing, I definitely would encourage any listener that
is looking to find a community of women and i'd.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Say like minded.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
But other than our game that we just played where.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
We sound like minded, there's actually a lot of diversity
of thought and practice and just you know, we all
are individual humans bringing different things to the table.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
But the one thing that we have, you know, I've
witnessed it.
Speaker 6 (27:45):
We've brought respect for one another, and we've brought a commitment,
you know, to the to authenticity and to being ourselves
and and bringing our best and sometimes our worst versions.
You know, it's been been a tremendous experience to walk
through some of the difficult parts of my life with
so many folks that have become friends as well as
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you know contemporary.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
So I know that even after I leave as chair, this.
Speaker 6 (28:13):
Committee will always mean something extremely special because of what.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
I experienced over the years.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
And I'm prayerful and hopeful that all the relationships friendships
that I've.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Built along the way will will.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
Carry through and we'll all stay supportive of one another
in all the ways that we are experiencing life.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
And we know that law is one of those ways, but.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
It's not the only way in which we're all doing life.
And that's just been a beautiful thing to witness, and
so I just want to I just want.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
To say thank you for the opportunity to experience that.
Speaker 7 (28:46):
Oh my gosh, second that one all everything you just said.
Obviously you know our mutual pleasure. So we've I've known
you now for going on what ten fifteen year, very
long time, and you, along with other members of this
committee have become like my personal boardroom.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
And I'm so grateful for my personal board of director.
So I'm very grateful for that too.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yeah, thank me too, me so well said as always,
we appreciate you, we love you.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
We are so sad to see you.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Step down, well not not even step down, like but
just you know you'll still be involved. But we really
are so so beyond grateful for your leadership and everything
that you've taught us. One of my favorite things about
you is that you lead by example. You don't just
set expectations or ask people to do stuff that like
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you're not doing yourself. And I just think that is
one of the best attributes of such a great leader.
And so we just really appreciate everything that you've done
for for the committee. And thanks for being our first
guest on the podcast.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
I'm just making way for more leaders just just making way, right,
So super excited to see what you guys are going
to you and leadership as well.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
So thanks for taking leadership on this podcast. I know
it's going to be a huge success.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
God no problem.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
And so just as a reminder too, dear, i's annual
meeting is coming up in Chicago, so we'll all be
there or at least met and I will I Erica,
I think you'll be there as well. You'll be able
to say Hi, it's my home turf, so can shill
all the cool things about the city. We're going to
have more episodes of this and of course the Wittle Seminar,
you know, so follow the committee at d r I
(30:26):
w I t L d r I Whittle on Instagram.
So born now and until next time. I guess we're
going to say goodbye to our wittle friends.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Hi.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Friend bye.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Thanks everybody,
Hello, friends, and welcome to say hello to my little
friends friends here with Bethany.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
White America.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
And we have a special guest today, Ned Heartfield. Hello, Mead,
thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Hey, thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Do you want to start by introducing yourself?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
So, I'm Meade Heartfield.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
I practice in Birmingham, Alabama at Bradley a Rant.
Speaker 6 (00:53):
Also have a jack in Mississippi office.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I'm licensed in three states.
Speaker 6 (00:57):
I handle multi state litigation, have clients across the nation
in a variety of spaces to include product liability, financial services,
and most recently intellectual property. So do some commercial lit
and some general lit. And that's litigation for you non litigators,
I think most people out there and dear ire litigators.
(01:17):
But I also do regulatory advice in a service outside
general council for a couple of my clients.
Speaker 7 (01:23):
Oh me, We're not just coming to you from dr membership.
We're going worldwide with this, so you got to tell
the world.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
That you do it.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Okay, Well, in that case, I.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
Am a lawyer, I'm a philanthropist, and most recently i'm
a filmmaker.
Speaker 7 (01:39):
Which I also excited to talk about. Yes, tell us
about your filmmaking endeavors well.
Speaker 6 (01:46):
It started a few years ago and has culminated most
recently in the conclusion of my first documentary. About two
years ago, I realized that I had a story to tell,
and I was finally over the grief portion of my
journey with my mother and was in a position to write, direct,
and produce a documentary which is called in Flamingo. This
(02:07):
is the story of my mother's famous phrase, have a
Flamingo Day and what that means sort of a universal truth,
how we all can have a Flamingo Day.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
And then it also.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
Tells her journey with inflammatory breast cancer, and that became
our journey Team Sharry. She was Sherry Peers Heartfield, and
my sister and I were right beside her, along with
so many other members of Team Shearry, to support her
in this very rare form of breast cancer called inflammatory
breast cancer. And this documentary is intended both to honor
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her legacy, her living legacy as a person, and to.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Spread awareness about this very rare form.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
Of breast answer that nobody knows about and nobody talks about.
So I'm super excited to have gone through that process
and to be in aition hopefully to.
Speaker 7 (02:53):
Share that with the world, just because I just just
because our list may not know much about inflammatory breast cancer,
can you give us, you know, the thirty second lay person.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Description of it and just kind of what it entails.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
And absolutely, this is the rarest, deadliest, least researched form
of breast cancer.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
There is no early detection.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
It does not present in a lump, it does not
show up on a mammogram.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
There is in fact, no IBC specific treatment protocol or
detection method.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Other than by the eye and the eyeball test. It
presents late.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
So out of four stages, your earliest known detection is
three B. That is very different from your typical breast
cancer story. And having experienced that firsthand in watching my
mother's journey, she was diagnosed with stage four.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Upon diagnosis, and of course, being the.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
Lawyer that I am, I did the deep dive and
the life learner that I am, and did the deep dive.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Into the medicine, and there just wasn't anything out there.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
And only now, even though this disease has been known
for hundreds of years, only now are we beginning to.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Make some changes in the space.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
And there's a very very long road to go. But
one of the first key pieces is to make sure
that women, and I would argue everyone is aware because
it's not just women. Men can get breast cancer too.
I actually know some but people need to know about
this type of disease. And I think my mother, you know,
was fortunately or unfortunately a vessel for this message. And
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what a lovely what a lovely package, because she was
just an amazing human being. So it's bittersweet that her
legacy continues in this way. But I've been so so
appreciative of the support that I've gotten in making the
film and now in trying to generate interest and support
around the film.
Speaker 7 (05:01):
Yeah, I know that this has been a labor of
love for you for a number of years, and I've
watched you just from when you started even kind of
thinking about it and then going to do it, and
just how long it's been going on that it's just
such a something to celebrate and it's just such a
silver lining on on what is, you know, such a sad,
tough story for you and your family. So I'm so
(05:22):
glad it's finally coming to fruition, And I know we
were lucky enough to see a preview of it a
few months ago, and it's just what I saw was
so beautifully done that like the whole thing I think
is I'm just going to be weeping the entire time.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
So I'm super excited to watch it when it comes out.
Speaker 7 (05:35):
I know Erica is and everybody else's, so I know
that we'll have more information about that when it's widely distributed.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Distributed so everybody can check it out.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yeah, and would.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
I would say if you guys are interested in learning
more about it.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
The best way to follow along with both the documentary
and just the disease itself is to check out the
website or find us on Facebook, book or Instagram, at
flamingo dot com or in Flamingo's on social and that
has two MS, so I n F L A M
M I n G O in Flamingo be your best
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bet to make sure you stay connected.
Speaker 7 (06:13):
Awesome, Thank you, and we'll definitely put information about it
too on our socials, which I know are up and going.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
So I know too.
Speaker 7 (06:22):
You're here specifically because you are so sadly, so bittersweet.
You are current committee chair, but you are outgoing and
I wanted to give kind of a farewell, good farewell
on this podcast, but also give you a chance to
talk about everything you've done for DRI.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
I am for the Women in the Law Committee specifically.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Look, this is a group effort.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
That's what makes it so great is we have an
incredible group of women lawyers and non lawyers across the country,
various vendors, people that are committed in into legal space,
and people that are committed to women in the Law.
I've had the wonderful privilege of leading the Women in
the Law Committee for DRI for the last year, have
(07:04):
groomed through the process of serving in various leadership roles
along the way, and we'll be passing the baton to
Jennifer Nutter in October at the annual meeting, and then
we'll become chair Emerita for another year to continue to
support this wonderful group of individuals. So so happy that
we've done so much, including this podcast. So always an
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evolving process and always a group effort, and.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
What privilege it has been to lead this group of.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Absolutely, and we're so fortunate to have had you lead
us over the past year. I know I personally have
been involved with the Women in the Law Committee for
a few years now and the committee under your leadership
has just been such a blessing. Truly, you've done such
a good job of getting everyone involved who wanted to
be involved.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
One question I had, you mentioned annual meeting.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Can you just talk a little bit about what the
annual meeting is for maybe some of our listeners who
are not familiar with that.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
Absolutely, So if you are stumbling upon this podcast and
you want to know more about Women in the Law
in particular this committee and this organization, we are DRI.
DRI means business and so it is the largest civil
defense bar in the nation. We host an annual meeting
every October that rotates throughout the country. This year it
will be in Chicago, and it's really a great opportunity
(08:25):
to get plugged into the organization as a whole.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Within the seminar, there.
Speaker 6 (08:31):
Will also be opportunities to connect with specifically the Women
in the Law Committee through our business meeting, which will
really be kind of a networking activity, and then we'll
also have a Woman in the Law dinner and some
other activities planned. So the first step is to sign
up and go and you'll find us, you'll.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
See us, We're on the agenda.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
All you need to do is show up and it's
really that simple, and we will help you get plugged.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Into this group.
Speaker 7 (08:58):
We're gonna have some big, garish buttons that will all
be wearing.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
You won't be able to miss us.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
If there's somebody's right, if there's somebody who's listening who's
never been to a DRI event before. Is annual meeting
an event that is okay to attend as your first time.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
Absolutely, I think it will be one of the largest
events that the organization hosts, and so it gives you
a window into how the.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Broader organization is structured.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
A lot of these substantive law committees that you may
want to join, a lot of topics that are relevant
to all of us as practitioners. And then, as mentioned,
it will give you an opportunity to get to know
those that are attending from the Women in the Law Committee.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Now, we always love.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
To follow that up by saying, came to the Women
in the Law Seminar which is solely dedicated to our committee,
and that event will be February twenty twenty sixth February
eighteen through twenty twenty twenty six in Orlando, Florida. Again,
we rotate throughout the nation and again those garish.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Buttons that you that you find on our badger's at.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
Annual meeting will give you an idea of who can
talk to you more about that seminar and why you
should attend.
Speaker 7 (10:11):
Yeah, and we're hoping that our next episode we can
devote to talking about our seminar, which is I think
one of our premiere events for women in the Law.
Is definitely something I look forward to every year or so.
We've talked a lot of business, but I think since
this podcast to say hello to our widdle friends, the
whole point is trying to get to know us all,
(10:33):
especially you need as our friend. So I thought it'd
be fun one to make you tell us what you
do for fun and then have some icebreakers.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
That I have not shown to either of you.
Speaker 7 (10:44):
Okay, keep things, keep things fun for a Friday afternoon, ladies.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I love it. Okay.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
So, as someone who has made a documentary that includes Flamingo's,
you can assume it is safe to assume that I
like fun and that I come by that honest, as
they say, because I watched that happen. I watched my
mother demonstrate that in the life that she was to
others and so gathering with friends and family has just
always been a big part of my life.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
So so I do love that.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
I do love to spend time traveling, both solo and
with friends and family.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
That's a that's a big thing in my world.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
As mentioned, I love to write, so writing in various
capacities also in my willhouse in a form of fun
for me. Maybe that's some fun for everybody, but that's
fun for me.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
And then maybe randomly maybe not.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
Since I have a love for the arts, I am
into music, so I actually sing in you know, a
couple of different places with a couple of different you
know groups, and yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
If I can ever find a time, I'll write some music.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
So I'll combine my love of writing and music.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
So yeah, that's that's probably my those are taking up
my time with fun.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
I love that I didn't know about the music, that
you were a songwriter in your spare time. So that's
so cool.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Maybe you'll bless this podcast at some point with one
of your songs.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
And part of one of your songs, you.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Can do a theme song for the podcast, right, so
there you go.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, okay, we'll put that on that to do list.
Speaker 7 (12:20):
Okay, So I do have some fun icebreakers and we
can all answer them. So mean, you're not just in
the hot seats. So we'll all answer these just as
a little fun get to know us. Since it's our
first episode. These are all ingest, they're not serious.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Uh. First, I have what is your biggest hot take?
Speaker 6 (12:39):
Okay, you're gonna appreciate this from Bethany, it's I don't
know this is my biggest, but it comes to mind
is we're all on this podcast and I'm talking to you,
who I know is also a Bravo you know person
you watch the Sas franchise.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
My hot take is that the best one the.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
Season by far is Miami, crushing it, crushing it. I
love the Real Househofs of Okay, it's it's like the
one franchise I don't watch.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
I know everybody has told me, you've got to get
into Miami.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I know everyone has said that too.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
And so many of them.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I know, I'm I'm I can't handle you know you
don't have time to watch them all, but yeah, you
got to pick your faves.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
I'm like a Salt Lake City diehard.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
That was what I haven't either.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
All you're missing out Salt Lake City is, So that's
John Oliver went on Stephen Colbert the other day and
was like, it's the best thing on television.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
So there you go. You've got John Oliver's recommending.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
For real houses with Salt Lake City too well, den it.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Best with vander Pump for a hot minute, and then
it's not even like on anymore. So I just kind
of stopped with Brabo, but I need to get back into.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
It, Erica, what's your biggest hottake?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
So I guess I was interpreting your question to me
and just more about like life, like hot takes in life.
I don't know, it's not It's not as fun as means.
But my biggest hot take is the importance of being
where your feet are and being present in the moment.
It sounds so cliche, but we might get into this
(14:14):
more later in the podcast. But Bethanie and I have
been through some things in the past couple of years,
and one of the things that I have learned through
the things that I've gone through is the importance of
truly being present and like soaking in the beauty of
everything that every single moment has to offer. And you know,
(14:36):
when you're thinking back to what happened in your past,
or you're worrying about what is going to happen in
the future, You're truly robbing yourself of the joy that
is in the present moment that you're in. So I've
devoted a lot of my attention and energy and time
to spreading meditation practices and presence to my friends, and
(14:59):
I done some meditations at some dear I conferences.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
So that is my not as fun, but that is
my hot take.
Speaker 7 (15:06):
I don't think that's a hot take at all. I
think that's lovely, very fun.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
Yeah, I've been thinking about that a lot in the
last number of days, and I'll find myself telling myself that,
not out loud, but internally.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Be where your feet are, Be where your feet are.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah, and it is fun.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
I think I think you're gonna you get you get
have a flamingo day. That's That's There's lots of ways
you can interpret that phrase, and the way you've described
it is one of them. So appreciating the today that
you have.
Speaker 7 (15:38):
Yeah, my hot take is that animals are great and everything,
but they shouldn't live with us in our homes. So
I'm like, be very very recently become kind of anti
animals in my home so much to the chagrin of
my children. I have always had a dog. I have
always had a pet of some sort, and I've been
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living now for a year without one since I separated
from my husband, and it's been wonderful not to have
an animal to care for. So I know that's like
a super bad hot take, but I already have like
two animals and they're human and that's enough responsibility for now,
so I don't need another thing to take care of
my house.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
So I am team anti pet terrible.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
But I still have dogs.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
They still have cats. I just don't want them in
my home.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
That is very controversial.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
Yeah, yeah, no, they're great. They're wonderful. I love everyone
that rescues dogs. If I had the time and energy,
but it's not for me right now.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
To the contrary, I like to pretend like I gave
birth to my dog, so.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
I get it.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
Yeah, if I didn't have the humans whom I actually
gave birth, i'd probably have a dog that I felt
similarly about. But I got the bonus. Okay, but these
are much lighter. Your first celebrity crush, I'll go first,
and nobody's embarrassed. It was David Bowie from the Labyrinth.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah, I gotta this is digging deep.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
So maybe there's somebody before this, But what comes to
mind is probably like sixth grade Nick's on the block.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Maybe Joey McIntyre.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
Yeah, the name I was Joey too, the youngest one, Okay, Joey.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
I don't even know the first thing.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I mean, I'm sure I had a celebrity crush before this,
But the first thing that comes to mind is this
is so random. Daniel Powder who sang that song Bad Day.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Like I was. I totally vibed off of.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
That song in middle school when he came out, and
I just like had such a crush on him.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I love.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
I feel like that's random.
Speaker 7 (17:40):
But here's another fun one, another throwback when your first
AOL instant Messenger user name, Oh.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
Gosh, I don't remember wow for the archive of letters
and numbers, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
It was.
Speaker 7 (17:59):
My last name is so in high school, my nickname
is Whitebread, and so mine was w Bread ninety nine
on AOL. You could find me hit me at themel.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Account, so you can imagine girl.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
And then this is less. It's got to go somewhere, right,
So exactly.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
No, I have to give it to you know, uh,
the grocery store or wherever.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (18:28):
I have four Gmail accounts for that reason, ones for
like shopping accounts, ones for like Apple related things, ones
for something else, and then there's one that is still
a black hole that's like my personal email and its
people still me. I'm like, no, it's that I'm not
for gonna get it.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (18:43):
So the last thing that I had just is like
a fun we can just do a flash round of
this or that and they're funny ones. Just go with
your gut. Bad haircut or bad dye job.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Wait, I'm sorry say that on more time. You have
to pick a this or that.
Speaker 7 (18:57):
So I'm gonna give you two choices and you have
to pick one. It's just it's a quick thing. Okay,
bad haircut or bad dye job.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
That's tough. I was gonna say the same thing.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
And my reasoning is, I feel like you could fix
a bad dye job, but a bad.
Speaker 7 (19:16):
Haircut, yeah, okay. Aligned pineapple pizza or candy corn.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Pineapple pizza thing.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
Talking pets or talking babies, cocking pets.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
I think I agree with that either.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
I guess pets. I don't know. Yeah, even though I'm
anti pet, I'd rather.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
Talk about pets and babies, okay, or have them talk.
Depending on how you read that noise, I'm not sure
like which one is?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Are we talking about them?
Speaker 7 (19:50):
It could be interpreted to different ways, but either way,
I think I'm pro talking pets, winning the lottery or
finding your soulmate?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Oh, soulmate, still looking?
Speaker 6 (20:02):
Do you know anybody's in in that way?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Lottery?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I guess I'll give an answer that's like both of yours.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
I guess finding your soulmate is like winning the lottery.
Speaker 7 (20:16):
Oh, misquoted movies or mistaken lyrics. Mistaken lyrics, Yeah, mistake
lyrics as well. Test the waters or dive in the
deep end. I mean, I guess I'm kind of a
dive in the deep end, even though I feel like
(20:38):
I'm gonna test the waters the same same.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
I think I'm I think I'm like testing the waters,
but in truth, I'm one hundred percent dobbin off the
deep end.
Speaker 7 (20:49):
I like to believe that I'm less riskd verse than
I am. Glass has full or glass half empty?
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Full?
Speaker 7 (21:00):
Yeah, hassle, look at us, Look at us in our
growth and our optimism.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Catchupran. Now here's where we're really going to brass tack
ketchup a ranch. Mmm.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
I like both. I don't know. I feel like I
put them on different things.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
I think I'm gonna go with ketchup.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
It's much more versatile.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah, let's go with ketch up.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
All right.
Speaker 7 (21:24):
This is the dividing line. Phone in the bathroom or
no phone in the bathroom.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
Yes, but I will say I'm paranoid about it and
like I'm always covering it up, Like if I'm gonna
listen to music. Uh, you know, when I'm taking a shower,
I will cover up my phone with my speaker.
Speaker 7 (21:41):
Yeah that's yeah, I listen to my I use it
to listen to music in a shower too, or watch
the news while I'm doing makeup.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
So I'm team phone in the bathroom. Sorry.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
Y'all sort by price or by rating when.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
You start things?
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Show me what doesn't suck on Amazon.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
I guess it depends on what you're sorting.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Right too.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
But yeah, if I'm on a different if I'm on
different websites, but let's let's let's be real. I'm not
chopping on like Louis Vatan ladies. I'm a I'm a
budded chopper. I'm a bargain chopper. Sauce on the side
or sauce on top.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
I'll top. Let's go.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
An answer to places, sauce it up too much.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
I can't have an oversauced thing, but I like it.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
I like to have it on top, and then I
also like to dip.
Speaker 7 (22:39):
Mm hmm okay, okay, crunchy or smooth peanut butter.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Smooth smooth?
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Yeah? Same? Zombies are vampires?
Speaker 7 (22:53):
Mmm?
Speaker 6 (22:53):
Probably vampires over zombies, although I don't know that I'm
a fan of either.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
But don't fires.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
We're treating with zombies because they seem significantly easier to
kill than vampires.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Unless you get bitten by one.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Yeah, but same same with vampires.
Speaker 7 (23:13):
Right, Like, like vampires are like cunning.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
I've watched True Blood.
Speaker 7 (23:17):
Zombies just seem like they're radio is, like, just take them,
take them down with like a shot to the head.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Right.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
I don't know if you're with if anybody in d
R I had that answer, Yeah, has any expertise in
how to take out zombies or vampires? So we can
choose which one that would be great?
Speaker 4 (23:33):
I know, bad breath or body odor o.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
I guess I would go with bad breath because you
can at least keep your they can kick your mouth closed,
right versus body be hard.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
To hut or like you're distance.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
I guess it would.
Speaker 7 (23:52):
Who is that person relative in my life is really
the deciding factor for me and when I'm going to
tolerate with this, like are you a friend?
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Are you my romantic partner? You my child? Like?
Speaker 7 (24:05):
Who are you to me? And that's what I'll tolerate.
As far as what you're doing with your hygiene, working
hard or hardly?
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Working? Working hard? Always ladies working hard, right, working, hard working.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
We're on the record working hard right.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Guacamul or salsa walk all day.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
My sister just got me a sign that's like, don't
let anyone treat you like uh salsa, you are full
on glack baby.
Speaker 7 (24:42):
A store where every item is free or a restaurant
where every dish is calorie free.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Calorie free, Yeah, calorie free.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
I think I'm gonna go calorie free too.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I think a store where everything would was free would
be cool at first, but then it would get old,
like it would lose its shy.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Would lose the appeal, loud neighbors or nosy neighbors.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Oh woud give me prophecy. If you're having a good time,
I cannot hate on you.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
Yeah, and then last one, again, we're down to kids
versus animals. Babies dressed as animals or animals dressed as humans.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Baby dressed as animals.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
We find how about it?
Speaker 7 (25:41):
I'm animals dressed as humans personally in this category, but
babies dressed as animals are also very cute.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
It has to be a cute baby, though.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
I do love that we have a little bit of
variety because we were.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
We didn't disagree on every question.
Speaker 7 (25:55):
Yeah, so that's that's where I have for the light
portion of it. So Mead, we loved having you. We're
so sad to see you go as our outgoing committee chair,
and we loved having you on the podcast. Do you
have anything else you want to plug for today? Give
us your Instagram handles again for in Flamingo. Okay, yeah,
(26:19):
go check.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Out in flammingo dot com with two ms I in
f L A M M I N G O. And yeah,
I'm over.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
On social at med Mark as well as in Flamingo,
so you can find me there and I'd love to
connect and you know, tell you more about whatever the
project or the IBC information, the science and anything you
want to.
Speaker 7 (26:41):
Or or law.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Bravo. I'd like to talk about that too, Bravo.
Speaker 8 (26:44):
Yeah, yeah, no, I think I would really love to
close this podcast in gratitude and just a huge thank
you for y'all's friendship and thank you for you know,
the opportunity to serve as chair and.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
The opportunity to lead lead the group.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
I do. I've always been inspired no matter the position
I've served in with the Committe, I've always been inspired
by by the members of this group.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
And whether or not leadership.
Speaker 6 (27:17):
Is your thing, I definitely would encourage any listener that
is looking to find a community of women and i'd.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Say like minded.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
But other than our game that we just played where.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
We sound like minded, there's actually a lot of diversity
of thought and practice and just you know, we all
are individual humans bringing different things to the table.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
But the one thing that we have, you know, I've
witnessed it.
Speaker 6 (27:45):
We've brought respect for one another, and we've brought a commitment,
you know, to the to authenticity and to being ourselves
and and bringing our best and sometimes our worst versions.
You know, it's been been a tremendous experience to walk
through some of the difficult parts of my life with
so many folks that have become friends as well as
(28:07):
you know contemporary.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
So I know that even after I leave as chair, this.
Speaker 6 (28:13):
Committee will always mean something extremely special because of what.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
I experienced over the years.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
And I'm prayerful and hopeful that all the relationships friendships
that I've.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Built along the way will will.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
Carry through and we'll all stay supportive of one another
in all the ways that we are experiencing life.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
And we know that law is one of those ways, but.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
It's not the only way in which we're all doing life.
And that's just been a beautiful thing to witness, and
so I just want to I just want.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
To say thank you for the opportunity to experience that.
Speaker 7 (28:46):
Oh my gosh, second that one all everything you just said.
Obviously you know our mutual pleasure. So we've I've known
you now for going on what ten fifteen year, very
long time, and you, along with other members of this
committee have become like my personal boardroom.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
And I'm so grateful for my personal board of director.
So I'm very grateful for that too.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yeah, thank me too, me so well said as always,
we appreciate you, we love you.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
We are so sad to see you.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Step down, well not not even step down, like but
just you know you'll still be involved. But we really
are so so beyond grateful for your leadership and everything
that you've taught us. One of my favorite things about
you is that you lead by example. You don't just
set expectations or ask people to do stuff that like
(29:39):
you're not doing yourself. And I just think that is
one of the best attributes of such a great leader.
And so we just really appreciate everything that you've done
for for the committee. And thanks for being our first
guest on the podcast.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
I'm just making way for more leaders just just making way, right,
So super excited to see what you guys are going
to you and leadership as well.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
So thanks for taking leadership on this podcast. I know
it's going to be a huge success.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
God no problem.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
And so just as a reminder too, dear, i's annual
meeting is coming up in Chicago, so we'll all be
there or at least met and I will I Erica,
I think you'll be there as well. You'll be able
to say Hi, it's my home turf, so can shill
all the cool things about the city. We're going to
have more episodes of this and of course the Wittle Seminar,
you know, so follow the committee at d r I
(30:26):
w I t L d r I Whittle on Instagram.
So born now and until next time. I guess we're
going to say goodbye to our wittle friends.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Hi.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Friend bye.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Thanks everybody,
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