Best of DC & Marvel 2024 Brothers Awards

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Hi and welcome to the Dynamic Duel Podcast,a weekly show where we review superhero films
and debate the superiority between Marvel andDC by comparing their characters in stat-based
battle simulations. I'm Marvelous Joe. And I'mhis twin brother, Johnny DC. And in this episode,
we are going to count down the best that Marveland DC put out in the year 2024 with our 9th

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annual Brothers Awards episode. Yeah, this isa super fun episode every year. Although Prior
years have probably been more fun because thiswasn't a great year for Marvel and DC films
I would say. Whoa, speak for yourself. You cantalk shit about DC all you want to, but leave
Marvel alone. No no no. You did not have a badyear whatsoever. Marvel put out shit in the

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theaters this year. No, they didn't. And also,they put out great content on Disney+. Oh that's
weird. Apparently Joseph loves Sony's Spider-Verseeveryone. He just admitted it.
We'll talk all about what shows and movies aregetting our awards later on this episode. Before
that we're going to break down the latest comicbook movie news to come out this past week,

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of which there was just one news item and thatwas the official trailer for the Your Friendly
Neighborhood Spider-Man television series. Asalways we list our segment times in our episode
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out of the way, quick to the new prize. A noprize is an award Marvel used to give out to

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fans. Our version, the dynamic Duel no prize,is a digital award that we post on Instagram
for the person that we feel gave the best answerto our question of the week. Last week we asked,
on a scale of 1 to 10, how excited has the officialteaser trailer for Superman made you for James
Gunn's DCU? And why? And we got a whole lotof answers this week, 8 in total, so let's

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go ahead and count down our 3 honorable mentions.as well as the no prize winner. Our first honorable
mention goes to Daniel Alonso, who said, Fromone to 10, one, I guess, because I can't pick
zero. I mean, Superman is one of the most boringcharacters of all time. I don't care, I've
never cared. And then adding crypto, like, why?The animals in DC are so boring, no one cares.

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The only version of Superman I've ever. Andit pains me to say liked is Henry Cavill's,
but God, I do not care at all about this movie.Did I say this was an honorable mention? Because
I meant it was a dishonorable mention. It'sso ironic that you are saying Superman is the
most boring character because I thought thatwas your mom. What? Why are you getting personal?

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He didn't get personal. He just said he doesn'tlike Superman as a character because he's boring,
which is a valid criticism. Well, I feel personallyattacked because I loved this trailer and I
don't see how anyone could say it was boringbecause like I mentioned, when we were discussing
the trailer in our last episode, we see a sideof Superman, a more human side that we really
haven't seen on screen before. For people whothink that the character of Superman is boring,

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do you think James Gunn's Superman movie willbe the one to turn them around? If it doesn't,
I don't know what can. And what do you haveto say to the people who think that Superman
is boring? You are on the wrong side of history,my friends. Wrong side. I know that a lot of
people thought that characters like CaptainAmerica were boring prior to those MCU films

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coming out. So I really hope that the Supermanmovie does for the character of Superman that
Captain America was able to do for Steve Rogers.And then some, because Steve Rogers is still
pretty boring. You know what, Daniel Alonso,you're right. Good job. Our next honorable
mention goes to. Travis Herndon who said, What'sup Dun and Medoos, Travis here, shout out to

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my Evil Twins. So my scale would have to bea seven and a half out of ten. I think it looks
really good, looks promising. The costumes andstuff, still gotta get used to those, but everything
else looks pretty good. The music is just amazing.I mean, I'm a sucker for rock ballads. So honestly,
yeah, looks promising to me, but I'm not puttingmy hopes up until I see the movie myself. And

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that's fair. It's fair to delay judgment untilyou see the final film in terms of how you're
going to feel about James Gunn taking over theDCU. The trailer may be great, but that does
automatically mean that his DCU will be great,although I hope it will be. So was the teaser
trailer great? I thought so. Yeah, I thoughtit was fantastic. I think I'm more along the

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lines of Travis Herndon here. I'm at a steadylike maybe seven, six and a half. kind of in
terms of excitement level. Like the teaser trailerwasn't mind-blowingly awesome. It didn't blow
me away. I thought it was pretty good. It wasa great Superman movie trailer. As I mentioned,
again, last episode, I didn't really have toomany expectations and maybe that's why this

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trailer exceeded mine. I will totally admitthat, but I can't help but love what I saw.
I remember back in like 2012 when we got thefirst teaser trailer for Man of Steel, and
I remember being blown away by that. I thoughtthat was a fantastic teaser. I don't know if
the trailer for this most recent iteration ofSuperman quite lived up to that. I think it
was hard to really gauge that the first Manof Steel teaser trailer was a Superman movie

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because we got shots of like a butterfly ona porch swing and a guy walking down the road
with a beard. It wasn't as much of a Supermanmovie as it was just like a fairly decent looking
movie in general. I liked the music for thatone, though I do have to say, as Travis Herndon
mentioned, the rock ballad that they use hereof John Williams' original score hit me way

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harder than I thought it would. Like when he'ssaving that young girl and the music is just
swelling, I was like, holy crap, tears in myeyes. Tears in my eyes. Oh my god, get over
yourself. Tears coming out of my eyes, bro.Thanks Travis Herndon for your answer. Our
next honorable mention goes to Mason Thompson,who said, What's giddy? Plain and simple, 10

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out of 10. I love it, because I like how muchit pops. I think James Gunn does that very
well. And I think he represents more hope thanHenry Cavill did. I don't know what it is about
it, it just does. And then Guy Gardner's bowlcut, mwah. I like the actor for Lex Luthor,

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and I like Mr. Terrific, so 10 out of 10. Yeah,one of the major criticisms of the DCEU was
how dark it was, not only in terms of themes,but also in terms of the cinematography. The
colors in this new Superman movie looks likethey really are going to pop and really jump
at you on the screen. I was actually prettyamazed by how striking the visuals were in

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this trailer. And that's partly why I thinkpeople are getting a much more hopeful vibe
from this universe. If you're a DC fan who readsDC comics, seeing things like Guy Garner's
bowl cut, that's all really exciting becauseit feels like for the first time we're getting
a pretty close translation of the comics charactersto the screen in a more faithful way than perhaps

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we've had in the past. Well, it means that you'regetting a shared universe like right out of
the gate. Right. Yes, exactly. It's a riskymove to jump in the deep end like that, but
we'll see if it pays off. My body is ready.Great answer, Mason. We want to give a quick
shout out to Jarell, who called in for the firsttime. Thanks for calling in. John Storosky,

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Josh Hayward, and Michael Williams for takingthe time to visit our website and record an
answer. But the winner for this week's No Prizeis Miggy Mathengian, who said, hey, what's
up, guys? This is Miggy. And on a scale from1 to 10, it would be a million. The Superman
teaser trailer got me super hyped. It's everythingI wanted and more. We got to see. the hope

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that Superman really embodies. We got to seehim saving people and being who he is. We got
to see crypto and the terrifics and the DailyPlanet staff like Lois and his classic enemies
like Lex. And a lot of people agree with mebecause it is the fifth most viewed trailer
of all time. The fact that Warner Brothers Studioshas been around as long as it has and Superman

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has become its most viewed trailer. bodes really,really well for this movie. It's the number
five most viewed trailer of all time. And ifyou look at the four above it, they're all
Marvel films. Deadpool and Wolverine actuallyjust set the number one record earlier this
year, but also all four of them went on to grossover a billion dollars. I'm not saying that

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means Superman is going to gross over a billiondollars, but man, what a precedent. Does high
trailer views on YouTube correlate to enjoymentof the trailer? Or do you think a lot of them
were hate views? No, no one hate watches stuffthat many times. It's it's hype factor. It
officially has like the biggest hype factorof a Warner Brothers or DC movie ever, apparently

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right at the gate. It's awesome. I hate watchedit a few times. I'm just going to say that.
You know what? That's fine. Keep adding to it.The numbers. Anyone who didn't like the trailer
should definitely hate watch it at least fiveor six more times. And the movie in theaters
as well. Right. Go hate watch that. At leastthree times. Well congrats to Miggy for winning
this week's No Prize. If you the listener wanta shot at winning your own No Prize, stay tuned

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to later on this episode when we'll be askinganother Question of the Week. And now that
that's done, onto the news!
Alright, this past week we got our first officialtrailer for the Your Friendly Neighborhood
Spider-Man series, which is going to debut inJanuary of 2025, so just in a few weeks here.

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It's pretty late to be getting a trailer, butmaybe that's because when I watched it I didn't
like too much of anything that I saw. I'm justgonna say it right off the bat. I didn't love
this trailer. What didn't you like about it?Okay, so for a bit of context, this show was
originally going to be Spider-Man Freshman andit was going to be a look at the MCU version

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of Peter Parker, you know, the Tom Holland version.It was basically going to be his origin story.
But the show was later retooled to be an alternateuniverse version of Peter Parker. You know,
this is definitely not the MCU version of PeterParker. But you know, there's supposed to be
a lot of parallels here. One of the parallelswe see here is that instead of Tony Stark mentoring

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Peter Parker, it's going to be Norman Osborn,which is an interesting take. Yeah, and instead
of getting the Iron Spider suit, he gets likethe Future Foundation suit. Yeah, that's one
of the things I don't like. That's at the endof the trailer. But yeah, it is weird that
Spider-Man's initial Spider-Man costume outsideof his homemade one is going to be the Future
Foundation, which, of course, in the comic booksis a white and black Spider-Man outfit that

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was given to Peter Parker. By Reed Richards,Mr. Fantastic, when he formed the Future Foundation
in honor of Johnny Storm, who at the time haddied in the Negative Zone in the comic books.
And it was a science organization and it wasa cool looking outfit. But it is weird for
that to be his first, like, official outfitwithin this particular universe. So that was

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like one of the things I didn't like. I alsodon't really like his initial homemade outfit.
Like, it doesn't have the goggles from the MCUversion of Spider-Man that we saw. Like it
comes with his curved eye lenses, like rightoff the bat, which I thought was a little bit
weird. But also the suit doesn't look very appealing,despite the fact that it's supposed to be,
you know, homemade. Yeah, it's almost more likeScarlett Spider's costume. Well, yeah, I mean,

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that's what inspired Tom Holland's version ofhis homemade outfit. But I really liked the
way they took that one, where it was like ahoodie, you know, with the goggles. Here we
have more like a sports jersey with the curvedlenses and everything like that. He's wearing
a backpack which holds his web fluid which isconnected to his wrists via these hose cables.
It's all just very different. I didn't likesome of the scenes that we got here where Spider-Man

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is beating up a bunch of high school bullies.He straight up web slings a brick into one
of the kid's head. I'm pretty sure he commitsmurder in the course of this trailer. It just
seems a little bit violent for the character.I'm not anti-cartoon violence, but I'm pretty
sure... that in the next shot where we see thekid who got hit in the head with a brick, he's

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totally comatose. And I don't know, it's just,it's weird. This feels a little bit nitpicky,
but everything just falls in line with my priorbiases that I had developed against the show.
We see Peter Parker say deuce is out. I thoughtthat was fucking weird. It is cool to see Liz
Allen and Nico Minoru within the trailer. I'mreally interested in seeing what they do with
Nico if she's gonna get her staff of one. andmaybe there's gonna be like a runaways tie

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in with this particular series. That would bereally cool. But that would be one of the few
things that I would be looking forward to. Iunderstand your criticisms, though I guess
I am surprised that you didn't like this. Ididn't care for it too much. I definitely thought
you were going to like it more than I did. Iactually did like the animation style. It reminded
me very much of like a Silver Age kind of SteveDitko approach. But that said, I could also

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criticize that because I would much rather see.then continue the what-if animation style for
MCU projects, just to keep that branding, essentially.No, I mean, I don't need that at all. I mean,
look at X-Men 97. Well, that's not in the MCU.Neither is this, you know? And actually, now
that I mentioned that, the ideal version ofthis project, considering how good X-Men 97

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was, would have been for them to make Spider-Man98, which is the year that the 90's Spider-Man
cartoon ended. And that cartoon was fantastic.You know, it was a quintessential Spider-Man
cartoon. which came out concurrently with theX-Men 90s cartoon. So I think I would have
preferred that a million times more than whatwe're getting here with this strange quasi

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MCU take on Spider-Man. Yeah, that seeminglyhas one foot in the MCU and one foot out. Yeah.
I get it. I would have loved to have seen likeyear one of the MCU Peter Parker. Yeah, I either
wanted freshman year or Spider-Man 98. Thiswhole criticism of the trailer just feels like
me bitching and moaning. But I think a lot ofpeople would at least agree that what could

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have been for this show would have been better.So when we review this, are you going to count
that against this show? No, I'm going to tryto go in as objective as possible. You know,
for everything that I'm saying about the show,it could have really tremendously well-written
stories. And in that case, I'm going to rateit accordingly. But I just want to on the record
basically that this show probably could havebeen something better. Well, who knows? Maybe

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we'll end up seeing this version of Spider-Manin the Beyond the Spider-Verse movie. or in
Secret Wars or something, who knows. I guesswe'll find out how good the show is when it
starts streaming on Disney Plus on January 29th.But speaking of people's anticipation and excitement
levels, for this series that brings us to ourquestion of the week.

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On a scale of 1-10, how excited has the FriendlyNeighborhood Spider-Man trailer made you for
the series, and why? This question is kind ofsimilar to last week's question about the Superman
trailer, but it's going to be about this animatedseries. Record your answer at dynamicduel.com
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Be sure to answer before January 4th.
That does it for all the news for this episode.So let's go ahead and move on to our main event,

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which will be the 2024 Brothers Awards insteadof like going with a purple carpet or a red
and blue striped carpet. Jonathan, let's gowith the carpet whose fibers are like red on
one side and blue on the other. So like thecarpet changes color as people walk on it.
No, no, no. Two separate carpets. All right.Yeah, let's segregate the Marvel fans from
the DC fans. You're right. Red carpet goes tothe back door. Blue carpet goes to the front.

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The red carpet goes to the glass elevator. Anyway,we're getting too caught up on this carpet
thing, but let's go ahead and get seated forthe 9th Annual Brothers Awards.
All right, everybody, welcome to the 2024 BrothersAwards. It is the premiere event that we hold

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every year on this show where we award the bestonscreen content to come out from Marvel and
DC. Yeah, it's an award show that we've doneevery year since the podcast started back in
2016. If you've listened to one of our awardshows before, you'll know that the Brothers
Awards are actually named after the Marvel andDC Red and Blue Brothers that represented their

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respective universes. in the DC vs Marvel comicmini series that came out in the 90s. Yeah,
we award these statuettes to Marvel and DC Mediain 10 different categories, including Best
Trailer, Best Original Music, Best New On-ScreenCharacter, Best Villain, Best Hero, Best Moment,
Best Actress, Best Actor, Best Series SlashSpecial, and finally Best Picture. Ten different

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categories, each with four nominees from whichwe pick the winner. Yeah, anything that came
out in theaters or on a streaming platform iseligible to win. For Marvel, in 2024 that included
the theatrical films Madame Web, Deadpool andWolverine, Venom the Last Dance, and Kraven
the Hunter. And on streaming, there was EchoSeason 1, X-Men 97 Season 1, Hitmonkey Season

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2, Agatha All Along Season 1, and What If Season3. So 9 different Marvel projects eligible
for a Brothers Award in 2024. Whereas DC had13, that included the feature films Justice
League Crisis on Infinite Earths Part 1, Part2, and Part 3, Watchmen Chapters 1 and 2, and

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Joker Folie a Deux. For streaming services we hadDead Boy Detective Season 1, My Adventures
with Superman Season 2, Suicide Squad IsekaiSeason 1, Batman Caped Crusader Season 1, Kite
Man Hell Yeah! Season one and the Penguin seasonone. A lot of season ones here. A lot of content

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for sure. Although not as much as previous years.I think largely due to the writer's strike,
but enough to work with. That's what you say.No, this was a tough year. I feel like for
DC and Marvel too for both of us. Not really,no. Yes, don't lie. Don't lie to yourself.
Let's go ahead and get started with our firstcategory, which is best trailer. The way I

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picked the nominees and the winner for besttrailer are the trailers that not only got
me very excited for the upcoming project, butalso I think gave us something new and exciting.
Yeah, it should be noted that the content eligiblefor this award was not necessarily on our list
of projects that came out in 2024. Right. Theycould be trailers for projects that come out

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in 2025. Let me run down the Marvel nominees.The nominees are Captain America Brave New
World Official Trailer. Your inner circle'sbeen compromised. Let me fix it. Watch yourself.
You're not Steve Rogers. You're right. I'm not.Deadpool and Wolverine. Official teaser. You

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don't just stand there, you ape. Give me a handup. Nope, I'm actually okay. Thank you very
much. Thunderbolts. D23 Brazil special look.You are all so adorable. Eat shit, Valentina.

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Venom The Last Dance Final Trailer What's hisname then?
We have something in me.
That's a solid lineup. If I had to guess whichone of those gets the win this year, that's
tough. It might be the Thunderbolts becauseI know you like the TOTY's Possum Kingdom that

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song was used in the Thunderbolts trailer. ButI also really liked the style of the Brave
New World trailer. So I think I'm going to gowith that. That's my guess. And the winner
is. Captain America, Brave New World officialtrailer. Alright, you guessed correctly right
out of the gate. Yeah, Captain America BraveNew World was a different kind of trailer for

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Marvel. You know, they've never really put outsomething that stylistic ever really. You know,
the trailer didn't have the typical Marvel Studiostitle card. It was heavily stylized with like
split screenshots and kind of creepy sound effectsand everything like that just really evoked
the best political thrillers ever made. Yeah,there was no music. There were no jokes. It

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felt very off brand for Marvel. but also itwas really intriguing. Yeah, the trailer was
a big swing for Marvel, I feel like, and itgets me excited for the future of Marvel trailers
and how stylistic they're willing to go withthem from here on out. And also excited for
Captain America Brave New World. I am reallypumped to see that now. Regarding the other

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nominees, I nominated Venom, The Last Dancefinal trailer, because that was when we got
word that Null was gonna be in the movie. Wedidn't know that before, so that got me super
pumped. Of course, the D23 Brazil special lookfor Thunderbolts was fantastic. It was an extended
preview for the film and Deadpool and Wolverine.The teaser for that film came out around the
Super Bowl, and it just got me all sorts ofhyped. Like we didn't even see Wolverine in

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that preview until we see his shadow walk overDeadpool laying on the ground and his claws
pop. And then we get the official title of themovie, which was Deadpool and Wolverine. So
that was all just very exciting. But yeah, CaptainAmerica Brave New World gets the win. for its
stylistic choices. Great year for Marvel trailers,absolutely. Also a great year for DC trailers.
And let me get into my nominations. The nomineesfor best DC trailer are Joker, Folie a Deux, official

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teaser trailer. Whoa.
The Penguin Season 1 Official Teaser 2 SuicideSquad Isekai Season 1 Official Trailer 3

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Superman official teaser trailer
crypto Home david home
I think this one's pretty clear cut. I thinkyou're going to give it to Superman because
even though it's a mid trailer, you just seemto really be gung-ho for it. So that's my guess.

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And the winner is... Superman Official TeaserTrailer. Yeah, you're absolutely right. I gave
this one the award, not only because it wasthe most recent one and very top of mind, but
also because of, again, how hyped it gets mefor James Gunn's universe as a whole. It's
really awesome to be a DC fan right now andhave something like an entirely new universe

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to look forward to, especially after a trailerlike this that makes you fairly confident in
the quality and tone that universe will have.I think prior to the release of the Superman
trailer, you were most excited by the JokerFolly-A-Do trailer. I almost gave that one
the win because that teaser trailer was incredible.What the World Needs Now, a song by Tom Jones,

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just fit perfectly with the tone and the footagethat they were showing. It looked like it was
going to be another masterpiece from Todd Phillips,and it really set my expectations unbelievably
high. dashed on the rocks below once the moviefinally came out and we all saw it. Yeah, that
was definitely an instance of the trailer beingbetter than the movie. Yeah. Regarding the

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other two nominees, the Penguin Season 1, OfficialTeaser 2, and Suicide Squad Isekai Season 1,
Official Trailer 3, I chose those largely becausethey also got me really excited and pumped
for the upcoming projects. I was actually reallyhappy with just about every trailer that came
out for DC this year. Well, let's go ahead andmove on to our next category, which is best

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original music. Music in movies and televisionhave a way of moving and affecting audiences
in a way they may not even realize. A good scorecan go a long way in setting the tone for a
film and our emotional response to it. Yeah,the way I usually judge a film's music is by
how evocative it is of the material you're seeingon the screen. If it's iconic. That's a big

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bonus. And of course, I try to pick out what'sunique as well. This category encompasses both
the score and original songs that were madefor the movie. DC had some great music this
year, and let me go over my nominees. The nomineesfor best DC original music are Dead Boy Detectives,
season one.

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Joker, follow ya'll do.
I'll follow you. Take my hand. Stay here, myfriend. The Penguin, season one.

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may be trouble ahead. Suicide Squad Isekai,Season 1.

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These are good options. The music for The Penguinwas fantastic, but I think ultimately you're
gonna give it to Suicide Squad Isekai, becausethe music for that show was just next level.
And the winner is Joker, Ballyadoo. What? No!Are you joking me? You think I wouldn't give
it to a musical that had good music? The songsfor that movie sucked. No, you are wrong, my

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friend. If you listen to the soundtrack, ofJoker Folly I do, it's actually a really damn
good soundtrack. And it actually had multiplesoundtracks. Not only did it have the score
from Hilda Gunnedadder, which crushed it, italso had an original soundtrack featuring songs
from Lady Gaga and Joaquin Phoenix. And on topof that, Lady Gaga released a side album called

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Harley Quinn, featuring a lot of the same musicfrom the movie, as well as some original songs
that she composed, which just blew my mind howclassic they sound. The movie was terrible,
but amidst the garbage that was on the screenwas not the music. You know, you usually have
a controversial choice every year. And I thinkthis is your controversial choice for this

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year. I think you're going to get a lot of flackfrom fans when they see this award being posted
to Instagram, but I think you at least you havea good reasoning behind this one, better reasoning
than you have had in past years with your controversialchoices. I'm going to share the albums with
you and I hope you listen to them. And I thinkyou'll agree with me at the end of the day.

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I won't listen to it. OK. Dead Boy Detectives,the Penguin, both had really solid scoring
throughout the series. Suicide Squad was interestingalso in that it had original music from artists
like Maury Kaliope, which was used in the endcredits for each episode. Yeah, those songs
were bangers. And that was, I think, the clearwinner. here.

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Echo, season one.
Hit Monkey Season 2

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Kraven the Hunter.
have to say that the music choices they madefor Hit Monkey season two were phenomenal but

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I don't know how many of those were originalto the show. Agatha all along was the closest
thing that Marvel had to a musical this yearso I think that's gonna get the win. And the
winner is Agatha all along season one. Alrightyou're just nailing the guesses so far. Two
for two! Yeah, Agatha all along season one didthings with music that we haven't seen since

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Wandavision in that we had a lot of originalmusic and the score for the show itself was
top notch. It was incredible to listen to. Echohad a lot of great original songs, including
some really awesome Native American music, aswell as a very heavy desert rock sounding riffs.
Hit Monkey, as always, is just a fantastic showthat not only includes a lot of great pulls

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in their soundtrack, but the score itself isa great mix of rock and EDM and hip-hop and
R&B. It's just fantastic to listen to. Kraventhe Hunter I included on here largely because
I thought it was more unique than the otheroptions that Marvel had released this year
in that Kraven had a lot of music with strongAfrican influences and traditional Russian

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music. I don't think I even really noticed thescore from Kraven. Well, I'll send you the
link to the album and you can check it out.I will listen to it if you listen to all three
Joker albums. I won't. Then fuck off. Let'sgo ahead and move on to our next category,
which is best new on screen character. Now welike to give this award to the characters that

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are new and surprising and hopefully excitingon the big and small screen. You know, a lot
of the reason why fans enjoy watching thesemovies and shows is to see who's going to be
adapted next and what they're going to looklike and what their powers are going to be
portrayed as. So this is always an excitingaward. Yeah, specifically the nominees eligible
for this award are characters that appear forthe first time within a specific universe.

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Right, yeah, when you talk about the multiverse,things get a little bit tricky because you
may see new iterations of characters that you'veseen previously, but we consider a new adaptation
essentially to be a new version of the character.Let's get into the Marvel Award. The nominees
for best Marvel new on-screen character areGambit from Deadpool and Wolverine.

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Null from Venom the Last Dance.
Kraven the Hunter from Kraven the Hunter.
Wiccan from Agatha All Along, Season 1.

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Oh, interesting. Does Wiccan technically count?Because we've seen the character in the MCU
earlier. Yeah, but that wasn't even the samekid. And I'm not talking just about actor wise.
And if you've seen Agatha all along, you'llknow what I'm talking about. OK. Either way,
I don't think he got the win. I think the winner,hands down, is Gambit from Deadpool and Wolverine.

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And the winner is Wiccan from Agatha All Along,season one. Wow. Controversial choice. All
right. This is yours. Is it? Here you go. Sowe've seen Wiccan in the WandaVision television
series that came out back in 2021, but thatwasn't really the official version of the character.

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He was just wearing a Halloween costume andit was more of an Easter egg than anything.
In Agatha all along, we got to see the fullyrealized version of Wiccan from the comic books
who had the full costume and all of his magicpowers. And I thought it was a great adaptation,
especially in the way that they chose to adaptthe character of Billy Kaplan. How he was once

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Billy Maximoff. I don't want to give away toomany spoilers because there are more to be
had there. But it was just a beautiful story.And I thought Joe Locke did a fantastic job
playing the character and out of all the newcharacters that were debuted this year, I think
I'm most interested in seeing more of the storyof Wiccan. Nah, not Gambit. I want that Gambit

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movie. I will be surprised if we see ChanningTatum back in the role again. Like maybe he'll
have another cameo in the Secret Wars movieor something like that. But I don't think he's
the MCU's long term gambit. I don't think he'sthe MCU's gambit, but I think we'll definitely
see him again. For sure in Secret Wars. I willbet money on that. Yeah, I wouldn't take that

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bet. Now, Wickham, he did a good job. Actually,all of your nominees were pretty awesome on
this list. Noel wasn't seen too much. Kravenwas, you know, Aaron Taylor Johnson did a good
job acting, even though it was Kraven in nameonly. But I still would have chosen Gambit
if it was my award. You thought he was goingto make a name for himself here? Hoo yeah,

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boy. Well, let's move on to the DC award. Thenominees for best DC new onscreen character
are Charles Rowland from Dead Boy DetectivesSeason 1.
Edwin Payne from Dead Boy Detectives Season1.

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Harleen Quinzel from Joker Folie a Deux.
Victor Aguilar from The Penguin, season one.
Oh, this is a lackluster list. I have no ideawhat direction you're going to go with this,

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but I think my own personal choice would probablybe Charles Rowland from Dead Boy Detectives.
And the winner is Victor Aguilar from The Penguinseason one. OK, yeah, I can totally see why
you went this route for me, I think just dueto the fact that the character was original
to the series. And so it was an exciting asan adaptation from the source material. It

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would have been the reason why I didn't choosehim. I had a tough time choosing the winner
for this award this year. I really wanted togive it to Charles Rowland. He was my runner
up because I thought the actors who were inthe Dead Boy Detectives did a fantastic job
with their performances and the show is justreally cool. Ultimately though, I gave the
win to the character that I think had the biggestimpact on me and that had to be Victor Aguilar

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from The Penguin. I grew to really love thatcharacter as the season progressed and I don't
want to give away any spoilers. But what happensto him in the end of that show is devastating.
And I feel like I'm still devastated by that.It was a fantastic show, largely in part because
of a character like Victor. For sure. That finalepisode of The Penguin had a lasting impression.

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And Renzi Feliz gave a great performance aswell. Absolutely. Give the guy an Emmy. Let's
go ahead and move on to the next category, whichis best villain. Of course, a hero is only
as good as his villain. I found that. What reallymakes a good Marvel and DC television show
or movie is the quality of the villain. Youknow, a project that has a weak villain usually
isn't that impressive. So we like to give accoladesto the best villains from this year. Yeah,

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villains, you love to hate them, but they reallyset the stakes for the projects that they're
in. And story wise, stakes are huge. It's thewhole reason for why the hero fights the good
fight. Let's start with DC. The nominees forbest DC villain are Esther Finch from Dead
Boy Detectives Season 1.

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Harleen Quinzel from Joker Folie a Deux.
Joker from Suicide Squad Isekai Season 1.
Sophia Falcone from The Penguin, season one.

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Oh, man, I was about to say that this was alackluster list until you got to that final
nominee. I think you're definitely going togive it to Sophia Falcone. And the winner is.
Sophia Falcone from the Penguin season one.All right, I finally got one. Yeah, we got
Superman the trailer, too. But you're gettingtwo for four. So if you felt Cohn was a no

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brainer on this list, although I did love theJoker twist at the end of Suicide Squad, Isakai.
but for a majority of the Penguin series, SophiaFalcone was just remarkable as a villain and
antagonist for Oswald Cobb. I guess I'm mostsurprised by your nominees that you included
Harley Quinn in Joker Follyado. Did you considerher the villain of that movie? Cause I would

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have figured it was probably like Harvey Dent.No, I thought Lee Quinzel was a much bigger
antagonist for Arthur Fleck. than Harvey Dentwas, even though Arthur Fleck probably would
not admit that. Or maybe like the security guard.He'd definitely be a villain as well. I guess
it's arguable as to who the main antagonistwas. But for my money, that was Lee Quinzel.

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She was awful. I hated her. Was Esther Finchthe witch in Dead Boy Detectives? Yes. OK,
yeah, she was great. She was fantastic, butnot as great as Kirsten Melody as Sophia Falcone.
She knocked it out of the park. episode to episode.She was essentially the second star of the
show. And I wasn't thrilled initially that shewas going to be the lead villain of the series,

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but I thought she was put to use expertly inhaving Azkab rise to the role of the Penguin.
And performance wise, Kristen Milioti scaredthe shit out of me. So yeah, she was very effective
as a villain. Yes, hands down. Give her theEmmy. Let's move on to the Marvel Award. The
nominees for best Marvel villain are Bastionfrom X-Men 97 Season 1

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Cassandra Nova from Deadpool and Wolverine.
Death from Agatha All Along, season 1.
Kingpin from Echo Season 1.

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Oh damn, this is a really good list. That'sa hard choice to make. I guess I'm gonna go
with Bastion from X-Men 97 because I think hewas the most complex villain. And the winner
is Bastion from X-Men 97 Season 1. Woohoo! AmI that predictable? Yes. Yeah, Bastion was

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an incredible villain for X-Men 97. Not onlydid he continue the themes of the X-Men animated
series into this new season, but he also posedlike a great, like modern threat to the team
in this day and age that felt very in keepingwith who the X-Men are. And he did a lot of
damage in that show. You think about what happenedon Genosha. He was a very effective villain.

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Absolutely. And the wrap up they did with himat the end. was so powerful in terms of like
the story arc for Cyclops. It was such a greatseason of television, which is why we gave
it five out of five stars when we reviewed theshow. Right. He played a large part of that.
Yeah, I forget the actor who did his voice,Theo James. Oh, yeah. He did a fantastic job

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as well. I loved that. That was great. Yeah,I hope he plays the character in live action
if they ever bring Bastion into the live actionMCU. The live action actors on your list weren't
bad, terrible, like Aubrey Plaza as Death. Thatwas a great twist. Yeah, and Kingpin was the
best thing about Echo season one. And CassandraNova, of course, was just really interesting
and pretty damn cool in Deadpool and Wolverine.Yeah, very spunky. Well, let's move on to our

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next award, which is best hero of 2024. Of course,this is the opposite of the villain award,
whereas the villains set the stakes. The heroesare there to overcome them in the story. Yeah,
we like to give recognition to the heroes thatinspire us. and provide the whole reasoning
that we watch these tales of morality play out.Starting off with the Marvel Award, the nominees

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for best Marvel hero are Cyclops from X-Men97 Season 1.
Deadpool from Deadpool and Wolverine.
Venom from Venom the Last Dance.

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Wolverine from Deadpool and Wolverine.
Holy crap. Wow. I think Cyclops had a really,really good arc, but so did Wolverine and Deadpool
and Wolverine. So I'm gonna go with Wolverine.And the winner is Deadpool from Deadpool and

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Wolverine. Oh, controversial choice. Is it?No, I don't think so. I think if you remember
the arc from Deadpool and Wolverine that Deadpoolhad, I think it was the most depth we got of
the character in all of his film trilogy. Youknow, he started out with a really touching
moment talking about how he wants to matterand, you know, getting rejected from the Avengers

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affected his entire life. He really grew asa character through the course of the film
and was really pleased with his journey, asgoofy as it sometimes may be. I think he really
grew as a character and as a hero. I guess Ikind of thought his arc was just an upgraded
version of what we got in Deadpool 2, whichyou know is still a solid arc for the character.

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I would have given it maybe to Wolverine becauseof what that version of the character went
through and what he learned from X-23 and everythinglike that. But I could totally see giving it
to Deadpool as well. Honestly, all of the characterarcs from all four of your nominees were solid.
Yeah, yeah. He was a standout hero from thatseries. Venom, you know, the way that movie

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ended was very much in keeping with the heroictheme of sacrifice. So yeah, all these guys
were great. Yeah. Great choices this year. Movingon to the DC award. The nominees for best DC
hero are Batman from Batman caped Crusader seasonone.

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Harley Quinn from Suicide Squad Isekai Season1.
Kite Man, from Kite Man, Hell Yeah, Season 1.
Superman from My Adventures with Superman Season2.

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I have to say your lists are not up to scratch.You can go fuck yourself. The Marvel lists
have been much more solid than these lists.I find it hard to pick from your list of nominees
primarily because I don't see a good standoutoption. I'm gonna go with Batman from the Caped
Crusader season one. And the winner is Supermanfrom My Adventures with Superman season two.

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Sure, yeah, why not? I think on that way too.So I love my adventures with Superman as a
show. I think they do a fantastic job reinventingthe character for modern times. In season one,
Superman's arc really revolved around who hewas. And in the second season, it was more

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about where he comes from and what that meansin regards to the relationships that he's developed
on the show. I thought they did a fantasticjob introducing characters like Supergirl and
Brainiac. for Superman to interact with. Andagain, I just really like how heroic the character
of Superman is in the show compared to someof the other heroes on my list, such as Batman,

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Harley Quinn, and Kite Man. Well, Superman isthe quintessential hero, right? Portrayed correctly,
he would always win this award. And I thinkMy Adventures with Superman does just that.
It's a fantastic show for sure. Yeah, this isactually the second year in a row that he's
won this award. I was thinking of giving itto Batman, the caped crusader, because that
was just as good of a show, I think, as my adventureswith Superman season two. But Batman kind of

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played a second fiddle in that show to the cityof Gotham itself. I would agree. Yeah. Like
you want to keep Batman mysterious too, youknow? Right. Exactly. That really helped with
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Let's go ahead and move on to the next category,which is Best Moment. Now, this is one of my

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favorite awards to hand out because I like goingback and thinking about the moments that really
stood out to me from Marvel and DC projects.These are the occurrences on film and television
that really got you up on your feet cheeringor like just despondent emotionally. But these
are the moments that you remember for yearsto come. Yeah, the nominees for this award

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consist of the most impactful moments. fromthe past year. Let's start with the DC Award.
The nominees for best DC moment are Escape fromHell, Dead Boy Detectives, season one.

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Joker questions Gary Puddles from Joker Folly-a-doo.Was I the same old Joker that I always been?
Oh, it's the Tugtelist yourself. Magical ArmorOp from Suicide Squad, Isekai, season one.

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Get out of here! Oz and Victor's farewell fromThe Penguin, Season 1.
I can't bring you with me this time. Alrightnow this list is impressive. For as much shit
I'm giving you about your other lists, I actuallythink that these are all standout moments.

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I don't think anything will stick with me asmuch as Oz and Victor's farewell though. So
that's my guess for the win. The winner is...Oz and Victor's farewell from the Penguin season
one. It has to be. Yeah. To me, this was handsdown the most impactful moment from, I think,
any DC show in recent memory. It was heartbreaking.You know, DC has had some pretty heartbreaking

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season finales. I think back to the Doom Patrolmoment from that show's series finale. And
that was pretty heartbreaking, too. Yeah, thatDoom Patrol moment won a Brothers Award earlier.
And I would have to say that This packed justthe same amount of punch, which is surprising
because with the Doom Patrol characters, wehad been with them for several seasons. But

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when it comes to The Penguin, only having oneseason to establish its characters, it was
just a better produced show overall, I wouldsay, as much as I like The Doom Patrol. And
it's something that'll stick with me for sometime, particularly this moment, which is one
of the reasons we gave the show 5 out of 5 stars.Yeah, I liked your other moments too, like

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the scene in Suicide Squad Isekai where theyget their power up armor in the final episode.
That was so much fun. That was a blast. Yeah,totally. Honestly, if this was like an award
for the happiest moment out of all of the shows,that would get the win. The escape from Hell
scene was also pretty powerful from Dead BoyDetectives. Right, yeah. And of course, Joker

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questioning Gary Puddles may have been the bestpart of Joker Folie a Deux. Great list, great
list. Now I kind of feel like my list is a littlebit shallow, but these are all stand-up moments
too. Let's get into the Marvel Award. The nomineesfor Best Marvel Moment are... Deadpool Core
from Deadpool and Wolverine.

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I am Uwatu from What If Season 3.
Let's go, boy. Take her down!

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To me, my X-Men from X-Men 97 Season 1. To me,my X-Men.
Oh, is that in reference to the Sentinel fightin episode one of the X-Men 97 show? Yes. OK,
that's interesting to me. Honestly, I thinkthe most impactful moment from X-Men 97 would

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have been what happened in Genosha. So alreadyyour list is flawed. I was looking for like
quintessential moments, I guess. Gotcha. Well,it was nice just to see the X-Men come back,
I suppose, after all these years. But of thoseoptions that you gave me of the nominees. I
would say the Deadpool core is your choice.And the winner is Deadpool core from Deadpool

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and Wolverine. Of course, you know, it was sucha fantastic moment. There were so many great
climaxes in the third act of the Deadpool andWolverine movie, which is I think why it got
over a billion dollars. People just love thismovie because you had the fight with, you know,
blade electric gambit against Cassandra Nova'sforces. followed up by the Deadpool fight,
followed up by the sacrifice by Deadpool andWolverine at the end. But the fight against

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the Deadpool core was not just musically powerfuland heavy on the action and a visual effects
tree. It was everything rolled into one. Itwas so much fun to watch. And I think that
moment will stay with me for years to come aswell. I know it will. Yeah, it was incredibly
fun. It was two of four climaxes that happenedwhile I was watching this movie. I don't know

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what the fourth one was, but I don't want toknow. I don't know if you've seen What If Season
3 yet, Jonathan, but I will... I haven't finishedit. So I had no idea what the Watu reference
was. The season ends on a bang. We'll get intoit in our next episode when we review What
If Season 3. The season's not fantastic, butthe finale is pretty much everything you could

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hope for in a finale. Nice. That's good to hear.And of course, release of Symbiotes was another
big action scene. It was really cool to see.the varying symbiotes that the movie introduced.
That was just a whole lot of fun, too, in thesame way that Deadpool core fight was. Yeah,
it was all right. It was definitely not as goodas Deadpool. So I think you had a solid choice
there. Well, moving on to the next award. Thisis for the best actress of twenty four. Yeah,

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we love our actresses. Love me some actresses.It's always fun to give out acting awards,
because in that sense, it feels like we're theOscars, right? But. Yeah, the basis of this
award is who we think gave the best performancein a Marvel or DC project this year. We're
way better than the Oscars. Like those are noteven relevant anymore. Yeah, if you win a Brothers

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Award, it means something. Like put it on yourresume, right? 100%. Well, let's see what actress
gets to do that. The nominees for best Marvelactress are Emma Corrin as Cassandra Nova from
Deadpool and Wolverine.
Catherine Hawn as Agatha Harkness from AgathaAll Along Season 1

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Patti LuPone as Lilia Calderou from Agatha AllAlong Season 1.
Sashir Zamata as Jennifer Cale from Agatha AllAlong, Season 1.
Like all of your nominees basically came fromAgatha. Interesting. Emma Corrin was from Deadpool

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and Wolverine. I said almost all. No, you didn't.I said basically all. I said something like
that. Anyway, of the nominees, I'd probablysay that you went with the star of Agatha all
along, who was Catherine Hahn. And the winneris. Catherine Hawn as Agatha Harkness from

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Agatha All Along Season 1. I am killing it.You are crushing it, man. You are crushing
it. Yeah, Agatha All Along had a stellar castand really these nominees were just a testament
to the fantastic actresses that they got forthat show. You know, Patti LuPone and Sashir
Zamata were playing minor characters but hadmajor roles within the show and I was really

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impressed with the caliber of performances thatwe got in that series. But, you know, Catherine
Hahn led the whole thing and I thought she stoodup to the task. As a leading lady, she really
impressed me and definitely went up a tier from,you know, just a supporting role in WandaVision.
Yeah, she was fantastic. She had a lot of differentroles to play, I guess you could say. Everything

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from, you know, dramatic to comedic to doinga musical number. It was probably an actress's
dream role. Oh, for sure. And she crushed it.Yeah. Of course, Emma Corrin was also good
in Deadpool and Wolverine. Jonathan, I guessI'm a little bit surprised that you're surprised
by my list. I'm wondering who you would haveadded like Dakota Johnson from Madden Web.
What would you have done? Probably not DakotaJohnson, but probably Sydney Sweeney. OK, OK.

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No, honestly, I'm actually surprised you wentwith Emma Corrin over Aubrey Plaza for death.
Aubrey Plaza was in consideration. but I'm stillconvinced that the character of Death was Aubrey
Plaza just stumbling onto the set one day, actinglike her normal self. Hahaha. She just is Death.
Yeah. Gotcha. Well, great choice. I think CatherineHahn definitely deserves this award. Moving

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on to DC, the nominees for best DC actress areKristen Milioti as Sofia Falcone from The Penguin
Season 1.
Lady Gaga as Harleen Quinzel from Joker, FollyI Do.

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Jen Lyon as Esther Finch from Dead Boy DetectivesSeason 1.
Cassius Nelson as Crystal Palace from Dead BoyDetectives, season one.

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Oh, that's a solid list. It's going to be inbetween, obviously, Sophia Falcone and Crystal
Palace. But I think it's going to go to KristenMilioti as Sophia Falcone. That's my guess.
The winner is Kristen Milioti as Sophia Falconefrom The Penguin season one. Yeah, honestly,
to me, the choice was between Kristen Miliotiand Lady Gaga. I thought Lady Gaga gave a great

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performance in the Joker Folly I do, even though.I hated her character and I hated the movie
overall. Her performance was not one of thereasons why, but one of the reasons why I absolutely
loved The Penguin was because of Kristen Milioti'sperformance as Sofia Falcone. You know, I gave
her the best villain award in part because KristenMilioti's performance was so impeccable. It

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really was. I hope that The Penguin Season 1really does incredible things for her career
because she deserves it. I've seen her in afew other projects and she's... just an incredibly
capable actor, just so transformative. I don'tknow if I ever would have believed her as a
villain until I saw it done and she was justso intimidating that it blew my mind. Yeah,

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the episode specifically where it goes intoher origin, as it were, in Arkham, that hit
really hard and I really hope she wins an Emmyjust for the episode. Give her the Emmy! You're
saying that for every award. Hey, the Penguindeserves it. Let's go ahead and move on to
our next category, which is best actor. Youknow, this award is just like our actresses

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award, except the actors are hanging dong insteadof the alternative. I don't know how else to
put it. I've never actually heard that expressionbefore, but it is accurate. Their actors recommending
their performances. Let's do it up. The nomineesfor best DC actor are Colin Farrell as Oswald

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Cobb in The Penguin Season One.
George Rexdrew as Edwin Payne in Dead Boy DetectivesSeason 1.
Jaden Reverie as Charles Rowland in Dead BoyDetectives Season 1.

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Joaquin Phoenix as Arthur Fleck in Joker Folie a Deux.
Great list, but it's gotta be Colin Farrell,final answer. The winner is Colin Farrell as
Oswald Cobb in The Penguin, season one. So likemy best actress list, it really came down to

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The Penguin and The Joker movies for who I thoughtwere in contention for this win. I mean, as
great as the Dead Boy Detective guys were, Imean, it's Colin Farrell and Joaquin Phoenix
giving master class performances. In the endthough, I ended up giving it to Colin Farrell
because I'm still unbelievably shocked thatit's Colin Farrell! It does not look like him.

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And as I mentioned in our review, he gives atechnical performance that plays like another
actor giving a method performance. And to methat's just incredible. I don't even know how
you would classify that, but you're absolutelyright. Colin Farrell deserves all the Emmys
and every single award for his performance asOswald Cobb. and I hope he gets it. Give him

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the Emmy. Of course, Joaquin Phoenix returningas Arthur Fleck in a role that won him an Oscar
the last go-around should not be overlooked.I just felt like we've seen it before. And
though we've also seen Colin Farrell as thePenguin before, not like this and not to this
depth. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, we previouslysaw the character in the Batman movie, but

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the Penguin series was much more substantial.Let's go ahead and move on to the Marvel Award.
The nominees for best Marvel actor are HughJackman as Wolverine in Deadpool and Wolverine.
Joe Locke as Wiccan in Agatha All Along Season1

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Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool in Deadpool and Wolverine.
Tom Hardy as Eddie Brock slash Venom in Venomthe Last Dance.
Wow, this is a solid list. Who to choose? Iwant to go with Hugh Jackman, but last time

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I did that, you gave it to Deadpool. So youmight choose Ryan Reynolds, but I'm going to
stick with my gut and go with Hugh Jackman asWolverine as my guess. And the winner is Hugh
Jackman as Wolverine in Deadpool and Wolverine.You son of a bitch. Woohoo! It's like you could
read my mind or something. It's not cool. Stopdoing that. It's weird. Yeah, Hugh Jackman

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as Wolverine just when he thought that the guycouldn't bring anything more to a character
that he had already spent over two decades playingHe did and yeah his performance in the movie
I wouldn't say is quite at the level as Whathe did in the Logan film, but you know he wasn't
the main star of this movie, and he had lessscreen time I still thought his performance

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was incredible going from a down-and-out Wolverineyou know, severely depressed, giving a really
emotional performance when he admits as to thereason why he's depressed. He conveyed anger
in a way that we haven't quite seen from thecharacter before, and he was a great straight
man to Deadpool's Wisecracking Idiot as well.Yeah, he did the humor great, he did the drama

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fantastically. The scene between him and X-23at the campfire alone gives him this award,
I feel. Give him the Emmy. There's no way he'swinning an Oscar for this role. Does Hugh Jackman
even have an Oscar yet? No, he was nominatedfor Les Mis, but did not win. That is a travesty.

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The guy deserves an Oscar. He's definitely notgonna get it for this movie, but someday, hopefully.
He should have got it for Logan. Yeah, he shouldhave been nominated for Logan. That's why I
say the Oscars are irrelevant. Yeah, BrothersAwards, way better. Well, let's move into our
penultimate category. the best series or specialof 2024. Yeah, we live in times now where a

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lot more media is being consumed at home asopposed to on the big screen in theaters. So
this award, I think, gets more and more importantevery year since we started this podcast. Yeah,
this includes television series as well as oneof specials. We actually didn't have any specials
this year. So this is really just the seriescategory in 2024. Yeah. And Marvel had some

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doozies, man. Let me break down those nominees.The nominees for best Marvel series or special
are Agatha All Along, season 1.
Hit Monkey Season 2.

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What if season 3?
X-Men 97 Season 1
Oh, this is hands down X-Men 97 season one.And the winner is. X-Men 97 season one. Of

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course. Yeah, that's right. I mean, we reviewedthe show and gave it five stars. I mentioned
at the time that it was the quintessential X-Menexperience watching this season, and I still
feel the same way. The MCU has a very difficulttime ahead of itself in adapting the X-Men
as well as the X-Men 97 season one was. Yeah,not only did it have that nostalgic edge to

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it, but also improved animation wise upon whatwe remember seeing on Saturday mornings and
brought an even more mature slant to it thanI thought it was even capable of. Yeah, I don't
even think you need the nostalgia factor toenjoy X-Men 97. It certainly helps, but I think
it stands alone even for fans who are new tothe show. I am super pumped for whatever they

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decide to do with that franchise next. I knowwe're going to and hopefully it holds up to
season one. If it does, it'll probably go downin history as the greatest animated superhero
series of all time. Just the way it portrayedthe action, the way the characters were written
so true to their comic book counterparts, thethemes that it addressed, it was all done flawlessly.

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It was executed so perfectly. Give that showan Emmy. For real, it was terrific. We gave
both Hit Monkey season two and Agatha all alongfour and a half stars. It was a great year.
great year for Marvel Television and also forDC Television. So let me get into the DC Award.
The nominees for best DC series or special areBatman Caped Crusader season one.

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Dead Boy Detectives, season one.
My Adventures with Superman, Season 2.
Penguin, season one.

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Oh geez, I wonder what it's gonna be. That wasa joke. Obviously Penguin season one, final
answer. The winner is Batman, Caped Crusader.Fuck off. It was absolutely The Penguin Season
1. A fantastic show and a year of incredibleDC shows. I also wanted to include Suicide
Squad Isekai on my list. Did I have room forit? Oh, for sure. Yeah, yeah, that was fantastic.

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I'm really sad that Dead Boy Detectives gotcancelled. I would have loved to have seen
what they could have done in another seasonof that show. But overall, I think the show
that gets me most excited for what's comingup next is The Penguin Season 1. Not only was
the show incredible, but I also think it wasa tremendous setup for what's ever coming next
in Matt Reeves, the Batman universe. Rumorsare that we are going to get a Penguin Season

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2, I really hope we do. We'll see if that becomesofficial down the road. I mean, as we said
in the review, the Penguin Season 1 was notjust S-tier DC television, it was S-tier television
in general. Oh yeah, it's classic HBO Sundaynight television. It was fantastic. I know
a lot of people who watch the show. who reallyaren't into the whole superhero genre, and

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they loved it. I loved it, how could you not?I think this is the first year we've done this
show that we awarded two television projects,five stars, from both Marvel and DC. Yeah,
you might be right. And as I mentioned earlier,this category has gotten bigger and bigger
every year since we started doing this podcast.Oh yeah, and this year specifically for DC,

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the shows vastly outperformed the feature films.But speaking of feature films, Let's move on
to our final award, best motion picture of 2024.Yeah, for as big as the television category
is getting, there's still nothing quite likeseeing a film in the big screen in the theater.

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It's movie magic. You know, I will say thatfor both Marvel and DC, the theatrical offerings
were kind of slim pickings. DC only releasedone theatrical film in Joker, Fallia, Do and
Marvel had three Sony Spider-Man movies comeout this year. So. Um, not our best showing
in 2024, but DC also had a lot of direct tovideo films that came out this year. And so

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yeah, we're going to find out which one wins.I think we all know what the Marvel winner
is going to be, but I'm really interested inseeing who the DC nominees are. Well let's
find out. The nominees for best DC motion pictureare Justice League Crisis on Infinite Earths,
part one.

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Justice League, Crisis on Infinite Earths, parttwo.
Watchmen, chapter one.
Watchmen, chapter two.

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Shut up, I hate you!
I'm not surprised that JokerFollyIdo did notmake your list of nominees. Oh, absolutely
not. That is not a great list at all. Geez,Watchmen Chapter 2, I guess. And the winner
is... Justice League Crisis on Infinite EarthsPart 1 Oh yeah that's okay yeah the obvious

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answer there that was better than Watchmen Chapter2 yeah Yeah so Watchmen Chapters 1 and 2 if
you listen to our reviews you know I didn'tlove them I thought they were largely redundant
and inferior to the adaptation that we receivedfrom Zack Snyder they're not bad they're actually
really faithful adaptations but of all of thefilms that came out this year The one that

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I thought was absolutely the best, far and away,was Crisis on Infinite Earth's part one. It
was actually the first film to come out thisyear. Yeah, part two was weaker than part one,
and then of course part three dropped the ballon that trilogy of films completely. But part
one showed a lot of promise, especially withits non-linear narrative structure. You know,

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it was really fascinating to see how that movieplayed out. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, the story
of The Flash and his involvement with the Mezzoand the whole crisis event that was going on
was intermixed with a larger story that wasbeing told that involved many characters from
across DC's multiverse, particularly the crimesyndicate. It was told in a very interesting

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way that was reminiscent of some other projects,particularly the time traveler's wife. It was
a really strong setup for what I thought thesubsequent two films were going to try and
recapture the magic of, but that didn't quitehappen. Yeah, it was a shame considering how
big of a swing DC animation took with part oneand just couldn't follow through with. Right.

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When the first movie came out, we were underthe impression that this was going to be a
heartbreaking finale to the tomorrowverse thatdidn't end up being the case, but the movie
is still good. I think you're gonna get flackfor this award, but you shouldn't because,
yeah, it's the most deserving out of all ofDC's films this year. I do feel bad for you.

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Yeah, me too. Thank you. Let's get on to theMarvel Award. The nominees for best Marvel
picture are Deadpool and Wolverine.
Kraven the Hunter.
Madam Webb.

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Venom The Last Dance
Let me guess. Madame Web. Nope, just kidding.And the winner is Deadpool and Wolverine. Obviously.
I mean, you have an MCU film going up againstthree Sony films. I am totally shocked that

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Sony released three Spider-Man Universe filmsthis year. It was a major faux pas on their
part and they're gonna be paying for that bigtime. Hopefully it results in the best case
scenario of Marvel getting the rights back toSpider-Man because... The only decent film
out of the three Sony offerings this year wasVenom The Last Dance, and that even paled in
comparison to the awesomeness that was Deadpooland Wolverine. The three Sony Spider-Man movies

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this year were a joke. Deadpool and Wolverinewas, in my opinion, the best Deadpool movie
that came out. So yeah, I see how this easilygets the win. 2024 was just... Ugh! I'm so
glad it's over. Yeah, it'll be good to put thisyear behind us. And there's a lot of great
projects to look forward to in 2025. At leastthe MCU will be releasing more than one movie

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in 2025. That's right. You guys are gettingCaptain America, Brave New World and Thunderbolts.
And the Fantastic Four in July. Ah, geez. That'sright. I totally forgot about that. We're also
getting a lot of great Disney Plus televisioncontent, too. We were supposed to be getting
a Constantine 2 film next year, but that gotscrapped, I believe. So we're only getting

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Superman. It's another year where DC only getsone theatrical release. But you guys will also
be getting a few direct to video animated filmslike Batman Ninja versus the Yakuza League.
Aztec Batman. All the Batman movies, I guess.Basically, actually, just those three movies
have been announced so far. If there are otheranimated projects in the works, we have yet

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to hear about them. Well, just another reasonto hope that the Superman movie is good. It
has to be. I think it will be. But that doesit for the awards show this evening guys. Be
sure to reach out to us and let us know whoyou think the winners in these categories could
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going to be reviewing What If Season 3. I thinkI'm only on episode 3 of that series. Need
to catch up. But you saying that it ends witha bang has me kind of excited because I'm not

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