Felix Faust vs Baron Mordo

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• 0:00:00 - Introduction 
• 0:03:55 - No-Prize Time 
• 0:10:24 - Wonder Man Official Trailer
• 0:14:27 - Bat-Fam Official Trailer
• 0:17:01 - Question of the Week 
• 0:17:48 - Marvin Jones III to play Tombstone in Spider-Man: Brand New Day
• 0:19:33 - Batman: Knightfall animated films announced
• 0:21:57 - Felix Faust vs Baron Mordo intro 
• 0:24:51 - Baron Mordo history and abilities 
• 0:33:48 - Felix Faust history and abilities 
• 0:42:49 - Fight speculation 
• 0:51:19 - Duel results 
• 0:54:27 - Sign off 
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Episode Transcript

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This is a DynaMic Network Podcast. Hi, welcome tothe Dynamic Duel Podcast, a weekly show where we

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review superhero films and debate thesuperiority between Marvel and DC by comparing
their characters in stat-based battlesimulations. I'm Johnny DC and I'm his twin
brother Marvelous Joe. And in this episode we aredoing another spooktober duel, this time pitting
the dark sorcerers of Felix Faust and Baron Mordoagainst each other. Yeah, basically my wife told

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me that if Marvel doesn't fucking win one, thenshe's gonna divorce me. So there's a lot writing on
this one. Literally she said like in the lastepisode she was like, I'm sick of this shit. So
we're really writing on this one guys. BaronMordo, I think has a good chance of winning this. I
don't think that's right. I think DC is gonna getanother win. I think you're fucked. I think you're

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a fuck. I think that's a compliment. I'm not 100%though. But we're gonna run the stats and figure
out who's gonna win between those two characterslater on in the episode. Before that we're gonna
break down the comic book movie news of which therewas quite a bit because we had New York Comic Con
this past week. So we got a Wonder Man officialtrailer, a Bat Fam official trailer. We learned

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that Marvin Crandon Jones III is going to playTombstone in Spider-Man Brand New Day. And we
learned that Batman Nightfall animated films arein the works. As always we list our segment times in
our episode description so feel free to check outthe show notes if you want to skip ahead to a
particular topic. Our artificially intelligentdual simulator AJ9K has a quick message for our

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listeners so listen up. Thanks AJ9K and thanks toeveryone who supports the podcast. Be sure to tune

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into the other shows on the Dynamics PodcastNetwork this week including the console combat
podcast where hosts John and Dean simulatebattles between popular video game characters.
And yesterday's episode they celebrated their100th episode with a special Colin show. I
personally was not able to call in at the time theywere live streaming but I did send a voice note in.

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Super proud of those guys for making 100 episodes.It's not easy to do for a podcast. So be sure to tune
into that. It's a huge deal. Over on the MaxDestruction Podcast hosts Scotty and Gilly pay
your favor action heroes from film and televisionagainst each other. On Wednesday they're going to
find out who would win between Hugh Jackman'sWolverine and the Creeper from Jeepers Creepers.

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That'll be a fun one. On the Central World Podcasthosts Zachary Hepburn speculates on fights
between fan favorite anime and manga characters.In his next episode Zach is revealing who would win
between Whitebeard and Kanpachi both from OnePiece. Visit dynamicpodcasts.com or click the
link in our show notes to listen to all of the showsin the Dynamics Podcast Network. But with that out

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of the way quick to the no prize. The no prize is anaward that Marvel used to give out to fans. Our
version the Dynamic Dual No Prize is a digitalaward we post on Instagram for the person that we
feel gave the best answer to our question of theweek. Last week we asked you guys what do you think
has been the scariest moment in a Marvel or DC filmor TV series and we asked this because it's

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Halloween season. Got a lot of great answers let'srun down our honorable mentions as well as the no
prize winner. Our first honorable mention goes toTravis Herndon who said what's up dynamic dudes
Travis here shout out to Mabel Twin so my scariestmoment would have to be watching the Flash movie no
it's like not but my answer would have to beGuardians of the Galaxy volume 3's Rockets

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backstory just while it's not like a spooky scarything just seeing like what rocket and the rest of
the animals there had to go through with theexperimentation and the body modifications that
is kind of scary to watch especially if you're ananimal lover so that's my pick Rockets backstory.
Yeah that was really creepy in like a body horrorsense the experiments that the animals went

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through under the high evolutionary was not justlike creepy to look at but it was also really
uncomfortable to think about in terms of likeanimal torture you had Lila the otter who's like
arms were missing and then Tiefs who if I remembercorrectly had wheels and then there was Floor the
rabbit who they gave like spider legs and likeremoved its entire jaw it was truly horrifying

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yeah great answer Travis our next honorablemention goes to Mason Thompson who said what's up
y'all um I kind of had to think about this but once Ithought about it immediately the trench attack
from Aquaman oh my gosh seeing that it just giveslike jaw vibes or like 30 meters down like just all

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of them surrounding them terrifying dude had mebutt clenched all right thanks peace I too was butt
clenched during that scene it was really well doneby horror master James Wan who directed Aquaman
I've been feeling the trench were put into thatmovie specifically for that scene so that he could
exercise his horror talent in the movie I haven'tseen the movie too many times but yeah that scene

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does stick out to me I remember just seeing like theentire swarm of trench like there were so many more
than you could possibly fathom down in thosedepths and I was really like nervous for how
Aquaman was going to get out of that well evenbefore that when they're still on the boat and
they're climbing on board and like breakingwindows and stuff like that that was why great
answer our next honorable mention goes to AlexAlbro and by Dear Bangora who gave the same answer

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and that is hey guys I know it's iconic but thescariest moment in a Marvel movie for me honestly
is the blood rave and the first blade movie it'sjust freaky to look at man especially for the time
you know it's just scary image odd way to start amovie I'm not sure I was there for it kind of made me
freak out a little bit going into the first blademovie you know I'm just out here trying to ice skate

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uphill not take a literal blood bath thanks guysbye dynamic doll I think the scariest moment has to
be the blood rave during blade I think that wasterrifying just to be put in that position and be
surrounded by vampires and when blood pouringmust be extremely devastating this is Badiere

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thank you yeah I feel like the blood rave scene iskind of like a pop culture touchstone like a lot of
people know about the blood rave scene probablyeven if you haven't seen the blade movie I think but
I remember like seeing the movie in theaters when Icame out in 1998 and Jesus I was only like 12 years
old but I remember the guy at the club and like all ofa sudden stuff started dripping on him and he was as

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confused as the audience was and then we realizedthat it was blood and I just remember being like
holy shit like oh oh no no because it all started andthen it turns out literally every single other
person at that rave was a vampire like he was theonly human that was nuts I was like this is so

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nightmarish like what a crazy concept for it to bejust raining blood on you and just you're totally
fucked like there's no way you're getting out of itand then of course blade shows up and saves the day
but uh yeah it was it was pretty freaky on that firstwatch and then on subsequent watches it kind of
became cool because you knew that blade was comingand that you were about to get a great action scene
but yeah that first time was really unsettlingit's still my favorite scene from a blade movie and

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it was like the first blade movie scene yeah theyjust nailed it right out the gate for sure great
answer alex and by dear but the winner of thisweek's no prize is Lorenzo Valdes who said I would
say that the scariest moment in a marvel or dc movieis in the dark night when they're in mayor Garcia's
office and the imposter batman slams against thewindow and I picked this moment because that's a

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movie I've seen so many times and yet over and overand over again the moment works as a jump scare for
me clon of forever and always bye bye I stillremember physically jolting out of my seat when
the imposter batman slammed against mayorGarcia's window I was not expecting that it kind of
came out of nowhere it's like the ultimate jumpscare within a superhero film for sure I could even

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concede that this is definitely the scariestmoment out of all the marvel and dc films I remember
jumping in my seat too and you know it's like unfairbecause you're not expecting it because the dark
night is not a horror film I remember like notappreciating it in the theaters when it happened I
was like I didn't sign up for this shit like what'sgoing on here is this a scary movie now am I gonna

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have to expect this later on but no I thought Ithought it was a really effective moment in
selling the shock of the jokers actions and how heis just chaos incarnate yeah you never quite knew
what he was gonna do and when he was gonna do it andthe video that was attached to the imposter batman
of the joker torturing him that was also prettyterrifying yeah there are a lot of terrifying

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joker moments in that film but that is the standoutone so great answer Lorenzo Valdes you win this
week's no prize if you're the listener want to shotat winning your own no prize stay tuned to later on
in this episode when we'll be asking anotherquestion of the week and now that that's done off to
the news all right this past week was new york citycomic con where we got a lot of marvel television

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news they had an entire panel alongside the marvelanimation division we got some looks at daredevil
born again season two where we got to see a trailerthat also featured jessica jones although that
trailer wasn't featured publicly it was leakedbut we'll wait for that to be officially released
so that people could see it there was also newsabout vision quest and x-men 97 and your friendly

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neighborhood spider-man season two but the mainnews that we got that was officially released was a
trailer for wonder man which is a televisionseries that's going to be debuting in january of
2026 its release date got pushed back a little bitfrom its original december date and i gotta say i
knew that they were going to focus on simonwilliams as an actor within this wonder man series

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and that wonder man was basically a role that he wasgoing to play that's all fine you know simon
williams is one of the only superhero actors inmarvel comics and it is definitely a unique
approach and angle that we haven't really seenbefore within these marvel shows and films that
being said my biggest takeaway from the wonder mantrailer was that this does not feel at all like a

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superhero show and it seems intentionally to bethat way like they were trying to do something
completely different within the genre i don'tquite know if i like the idea or not just based on
this trailer i mean i'll say that the show looksgood for what it is i kind of like how meta it is how

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this auteur film director is recreating thewonder man popular television series from either
like the 70s or 80s i don't know it looks like flashgordon to me which is pretty interesting but you
know the origin of wonder man from the comic booksis that he was kind of like a tony stark rival whose
business was driven into the ground he went toprison for shady business dealings and then baron

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zemo offered him a chance to get back at tony starkby undergoing an experiment that turned his body
into ionic energy i mean we go into his backstory inour captain adam versus wonder man dual episode
this looks completely removed from that now maybethat whole backstory will kind of be loosely
adapted into the fictional backstory of thewonder man character within the series that

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they're adapting in this show and that would begreat but that's definitely not going to be the
origin story for yaya abdul matine the second'scharacter yeah it makes me wonder if we're
actually going to see yaya abdul matine as wonderman and is he going to throw hands i'm not convinced
by this trailer i don't know if we'll see yaya in hisionic form i'm sure we'll definitely see him in the

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wonder man suit i'm assuming that at some point hischaracter will get superpowers that are similar
to wonder man's power set from the comic books andthen he'll be an actor who played the role of wonder
man who became a superhero during the filmingprocess and then goes on to fight evil after making
this movie i feel like it's not going to be that wayjust because they anticipate the audience

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expecting something like that and i think theywant to do something completely different with
this yeah they might pull like a she-hulk orsomething where there is no big fight between good
versus evil in the show's climax and maybe subvertit in some way but that wouldn't be satisfying just
like how the end to she-hulk wasn't satisfying ihope they don't do that i hope this character

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becomes an actual superhero and doesn't just playone i love that ben kingsley is returning as trevor
slattery like that was one of my favorite parts ofthis trailer just seeing him as that character
again his trevor slattery is great for sure i'mwondering if simon williams gets the role of
wonder man in this movie then who is trevor gonnaplay considering that he also auditions for the

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same part i guess we'll find out when the show comesout on january 27th in dc news we got the official
trailer for prime videos bat fam animated seriesthis is a spinoff of the holiday film they put out a
few years ago mary little batman which we reviewedwhich i thought was great for the family after

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watching this trailer i'm less enthused by thewhole approach they decided to take with this show
when i hear bat fam i think nightwing red hood robinbat girl that whole cast of characters but based on
this trailer we're getting a pyrachonetic namedclaire alfred's niece alicia a ghost of rossel

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ghoul a geriatric man bat it's just fucking weirdthe bat fam nobody asked for exactly exactly and
again i love the charming animation style thecharacter designs are actually pretty great
especially when it comes to like killer croc andclay face and stuff like that but it's just so

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different from what i was hoping they would do thatit's really hard to get excited about this show
well i mean one of the appeals of mary little batmanwas seeing how that particular art style depicted
characters that you know and love like batman likethe joker it was all just part of the magic right and

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yeah you're right seeing characters like clayface and killer croc adapted in this style looks
like a whole lot of fun i also was really hoping tosee how they were going to take the characters that
were used to seeing the bat family and depictingthem in that art style too like i imagine that
nightwing would be like really buff and then likethey really focus on his glutes right and red hood

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would be real like emo you know always having hishead down and stuff like that it would have been
cool to see in the style of animation absolutelyand so we have these characters in the trailer and
i'm just left wondering why like why would you takea stable of characters that are beloved amongst
comic fans and just completely disregard it i'llprobably still end up watching this show because i

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have prime and why not and i may actually find thehumor and storytelling charming but i can't
stress enough how much they dropped the ball andhow disappointed i am that this should have been
something very different yeah i mean you may end upliking it but even if you do you're still gonna
wonder what could have been if they gave you more ofwhat you wanted all in all there's a lot of

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questionable decisions for this show and withwonder man so that brings us to our question of the
week regarding the wonder man and batfam seriestrailers what the fuck did i just watch wrong
answers only i guess a good way to approach thisquestion is if you had to retitle these shows to be

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more in line with your own personal thoughts on thetrailers what would they be called record your
answer at dynamic duel dot com by clicking on thered microphone button in the bottom right corner
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before october 18th in other marvel news welearned this past week according to deadline that
marvin jones the third aka crondon is going to playthe crime boss tombstone in the upcoming
spider-man brand new day film tombstone being aspider-man villain a street level spider-man
villain one of the enforcers of the magea crimefamily the character appeared in the spider-man

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into the spider-verse film where he was actuallyvoiced by marvin jones the third so it'll be cool to
see him now play that role in live action i mean ifyou could do it any differently from how he played
to bias wail in the black lightning tv series i'mskeptical that's right yeah he did already play dc
villain who is very similar at least i guess anattitude if not in power set i don't know what to

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bias wail's powers are actually well he's a albinogangster essentially a crime boss well that's
what tombstone is he's exactly you know gangsterokay all right well we'll see how this goes i'm sure
he'll take a somewhat different approach from hisrole in black lightning but it's cool that he'll
have done both in marvel and dc live action villainrole when this film comes out the inclusion of

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tombstone definitely reinforces the idea thatthis is going to be a street level film which is very
interesting to me yeah it's gonna have tombstonein it it's gonna have the punisher in it it's gonna
be a very different type of film than what we'vebeen getting from the spider-man franchise i
think it's gonna be more grounded maybe that'll bepretty interesting to see execs have made some
comments that there are some like story tie-insfrom daredevil born against season two if you want

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to learn more about tombstone go ahead and checkout our dual episode where we pit him against
blockbuster and hopefully we'll get to see whatthe character looks like either in like set videos
or an upcoming trailer or something like thatagain the movie is gonna come out in 2026 on july
31st in dc news my favorite news to come out of newyork comic con it was revealed that the batman

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nightfall storyline is being put into productionas a multi-part animated film part one is coming
out next year in 2026 and it's going to focus on banereally seeing batman's rogues gallery from
arkham asylum and batman's quest to capture all ofthem nightfall is one of my favorite stories from
the comics it spanned multiple batman serieswritten by some of batman's best writers from

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history including doug moanch chuck dixon ellengranton denny o'neill and peter david of course it
includes the famous breaking of batman's back bybane and the rise of asriel as a new armor-wearing
tech focused batman i'm sure we'll see asriel'srise in part two but i can't wait to see the whole

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storyline played out on screen i never thought wewould get an animated adaptation of that so it's
exciting to see them start to take a look at some ofthe popular comic book story arcs and adapt those i
was actually surprised by this news because ithought that james gunn was only going to start
featuring animated projects that tied into hisdcu projects like creature commandos that could

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be the case for this for all we know this could be aprequel of sorts or like a flashback-esque story a
prequel to the dcu version of batman possiblyinteresting it would be a good way to get much
needed exposition and backstory out of the waythat way people could just jump right in with a live
action movie whenever that comes out i mean sincewe've already seen batman get his back broken on

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film in christopher nollens the dark knight risesi'm sure there's no real need to retread that same
territory in live action so this approach may justget that out of the way i am skeptical that this is
actually true it's interesting speculationwhether it is or isn't i'm still pumped for it
because again that's a fantastic storyline it'sthe equivalent of the death of superman in my book

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just a pivotal moment in batman's career yeahwhere stakes actually meant something exactly
just how we didn't know if superman was going tocome back we didn't know when bruce wane was going
to return to the cowl we weren't told how many partsthe story was going to be told in but it's at least
two if they do three i'm here for it my body is readybut then does it for all the news for this episode

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let's go ahead and move on to the main event where wefind out who is going to win between the dc and
marvel sorcerer characters of phoenix foust andbaron mordo okay phoenix foust versus baron mordo

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as i stated earlier in the episode these are twodark sorcerer villainous characters within dc
baron mordo of course was played by chouatelle inthe dr strange films we haven't seen phoenix foust
in live action that i'm aware of but he has beenfeatured pretty frequently in animated works

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yeah he had a really cool badass fight sceneagainst zetana in just asly dark i want to say the
film was right this is going to be kind of similar toour dr fate versus dr strange dual episode i think
but considering that these characters are bothvillains we're going to dabble more into the dark
magic side of things yeah i think it'll be prettyfun to explain the methodology behind our duels

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let's go to our sentient dual simulator elfordjarvis 9000 aj9k tell our listeners how you go
about determining a winner in our dual matchupsyes of course sir the way i determine a winner
between the contestants is by running 1000montecarlo simulations using the characters
statistics a montecarlo simulation is aprobabilistic model used to determine outcomes

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through random sampling in this case i randomizethe statistics along a normal distribution as a
way to simulate the many variables that can occurduring battle the stat parameters are based on the
official marvel power grid from which the dccharacters statistics are extrapolated
additional stat categories are included such asrange damage potential versatility and

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perception in order to create a more detailed andaccurate simulation the results of the 1000
simulations provide a percentage of wins for eachcharacter the contestant with the higher
percentage is declared the victor as they have ahigher probability to win any given battle in an
equitable pairing neither character should win100 of the matches the comic book stories have

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shown that there's even a way for batman to defeatsuperman so the confidence rate of my method falls
in line with the precedents that have beenestablished in the source material my
mathematical simulations are withoutsubjectivity or bias feats are not the whole
consideration nor are fan votes tabulated fordetermination of the winner thanks aj and iak
before we run the simulations though we'd like tobreak down each character's histories and

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abilities before improvising a scenario on how weimagine one of the 1000 simulations would play out
beat for beat i believe it's my turn to go first withthe marvel characters backstory so let me tell you
all about baron morto carl amadeus morto was bornin the transylvanian village of varfondra to
baron nicolai morto and baroness sarah crawlerhis grandfather viscount hindrack crawler of

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bavaria sought revenge against the allied powersafter world war two and attempted to steal
nicolai's emerging magical power through a spellof transference when the spell failed crawler
ordered his daughter to marry nicolai so thattheir child could serve as a conduit for the power
he craved sarah complied and nine months latergave birth to carl raised in a cold household

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carl's father was obsessed with restoring hishomeland to feudal glory while his mother
regarded her son merely as a pawn in her father'sschemes when crawler ordered sarah to kill her
husband she obeyed and fled with carl to bavariawhere crawler trained his grandson in black magic
after learning the truth of his father's deathcarl swore vengeance on both his mother and

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grandfather and vowed to rebuild a world ruled byhis own power as a young man morto traveled to tebet
to find the ancient one a powerful sorcerer said toguard the secrets of true magic in the ancient ones
himalayan sanctuary morto's body aged slowlyunder the effects of the mountain's mystical aura
though the ancient ones saw darkness in his newpupil's heart he chose to teach him anyway hoping

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to guide him toward wisdom while studying ancientscrolls morto learned of the dread dor mamu the
ruler of the dark dimension against his master'sorders he contacted dor mamu finding himself to
the demon's influence morto returned to bavariasacrificing both his mother and grandfather to
dor mamu before continuing his studies under theancient one plotting to one day sacrifice him as

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well you can learn more about dor mamu in his duelagainst the demon trigon when another student
steven strange arrived seeking healing for hisinjured hands morto viewed him as a rival upon
discovering morto's plot to kill their teacherstrange tried to warn the ancient one but morto
silenced him with a binding spell the ancient onewas aware of morto's treachery all along and freed

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strange who accepted apprenticeship to stopmorto's schemes you can find out more about
morto's attempts to defeat strange in the ancientone's temple morto's first attempts to defeat

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strange included astral projection schemes andhypnotic control of servants to poison the
ancient one strange continually foiled thoseplans proving himself the superior sorcerer
morto lured strange into traps across europemanipulated ectoplasmic warriors and even
imprisoned the ancient one but each student wasforced to leave the ancient one morto's first
attempt to kill strange was defeated seekinggreater power morto appealed to dor mamu He

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simplified his abilities and sent him to destroyStrange. Together they pursued Strange across
dimensions, but Dormammu turned on Mordo forinterfering in his duel with Strange and banished
him to the dimension of demons. Strange laterfreed Mordo while rescuing other victims, and the
ancient one imprisoned him anew. Freed againafter the defeat of the entity called Zom, Dr.

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Strange persuaded Mordo to help contain Zom'sscattered evil essence, convincing him to act as
the vessel for the dark power. Once empowered,Mordo betrayed Strange, attacking him with
overwhelming might until Strange used the staffof Polar Power to absorb his excess energy and
banish him. Mordo resurfaced, pretending to beDr. Strange during the Sorcerer Supreme's brief

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loss of power, but Strange regained his strengthand exposed the deception. Obsessed with
uncovering ultimate magical truths, Mordopursued the time-traveling wizard C. Sneg to the
dawn of creation, witnessing the reconstructionof the universe itself. The sight drove him
insane. Strange took him into his care, but Mordolater escaped and renewed his pursuit of dark

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power. When he robbed the San Gabriel Archives atthe Vatican, he attempted to unleash the Chaos
Demon by sacrificing 13 victims, including thewitch Jennifer Kale, but he was defeated by her and
Manthing, whom you can learn more about in his duelwith Swamp Thing. Mordo's lust for power often
drew him into the service of other dark entities.He created the spectral being Azrael and sent him

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to slay Dr. Strange, later manipulating Manthingto do the same. During a battle that spanned time
itself, Mordo returned to the mid-20th centuryand was ensnared by a plot involving Dormammu and
his ancestor, Crowler. Dormammu turned againstboth Crowler and Mordo, destroying them before
Strange used their conflict to banish the demononce more. Afterward, Mordo was recruited into

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Mifisto's group called the Legion Accursed. Youcan learn more about Mifisto in his duel against
Sandman. In time, Mordo's constant dealings withinfernal entities took their toll and he
developed terminal cancer. Desperate for a cure,Mordo made simultaneous bargains with both
Mifisto and Satanish, promising each his soul.When Mifisto and Satanish arrived to claim him,

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their conflict threatened to consume all realityuntil Strange exploited the demon's greed to
sever their hold on Mordo, freeing him thoughleaving him spiritually weakened. Seeking
redemption, Mordo returned to Tibet, confessinghis sins to Dr. Strange and asked for forgiveness.
Strange granted it and Mordo died from cancer inpeace. He was subsequently pulled from the time

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stream and recruited by the cosmic collector tojoin the villainous offenders team alongside Red
Hulk, Tarix, and Tiger Shark. Mordo and the groupbattled Strange and the defenders across time and
space before being returned to the exact momentfrom which he had been taken. Years later, Mordo
resurfaced in South America, kidnapping apolitician to lure his daughter, the

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Mune...Monee...Saint Kroy, so he could siphonher life energy to sustain himself. Monee tricked
Mordo into thinking he had been cured and allowedhim to leave, deluded. Not long after, Mordo
appeared to die in Brazil, slain by Thor'senchanted axe, but his body later vanished. Mordo
reemerged during the period when the Empirical, afanatical science cult, purged magic from Earth.

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Having survived by pledging himself once more toDormammu, he attacked a weakened Dr. Strange in
New York, briefly overpowering him beforeStrange was abducted by the villain Nightmare.
Mordo and Dormammu clashed again, and whenDormammu attempted to destroy Strange, Mordo
added his power to his old foes, helping banishDormammu to Shumagorath's realm. Despite this

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uneasy alliance, Mordo quickly turned onStrange, and was defeated once more. When Hydra
seized control of the United States, adark-forced dome enclosed Manhattan. Baron
Mordo was appointed caretaker of the city andoccupied the Sanctum Sanctorum, where he
enslaved the Elder God Pooorg as his guardian. Hecaptured several heroes, including Daredevil,

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Luke Cage, and Iron Fist, but lost control when Dr.Strange, Spider Woman, Ben Uruk, and Kingpin
rallied against him and reclaimed the Sanctum.Following these events, Mordo continued serving
Dormammu's race, the Valtines, as an enforcer. Inthis role, he destroyed the demon Barashtak and
freed Strange's former apprentice, CaseyKinmont, corrupting her with dark power and

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sending her against her mentor. After Strangerestored Casey's soul, she banished Mordo back to
the Void where he remains, alive, scheming, andeternally plotting vengeance against the
Sorcerer Supreme. And that is Baron Mordo'sbackstory. Powers-wise, Baron Mordo has access
to a near-limitless number of spells andabilities. Through magic, he can project mystic

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energies as powerful bolts or protectiveshields. He can read and cast thoughts, cast
illusions, and hypnotize. He can teleport andfly. He can also turn invisible and intangible,
and project an incorporeal copy of himself calledhis astral form. Mordo can transmute matter,
war-priality, and materialize objects. He haslimited time control abilities such as slowing,

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freezing, and even traveling through time. Also,he can invoke extra-dimensional deities for any
number of spells and often utilize his blackmagic, including necromancy, the magic of the
dead. Baron Mordo is an expert in the occult and is askilled martial artist, having been trained by
Tibetan monks. He has occasionally carried ormanifested a dagger for ritual sacrifice. And

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there you go. The whole time I was listening to thatbackstory, I was like, Are you looking off my
sheet? Because there are a lot of similaritiesbetween Baron Mordo and Felix Faust. It makes
sense, because Felix Faust is a total ripoff ofBaron Mordo. I'm sorry, what? Felix Faust came out
in 1962, my friend. Well, Baron Mordo came out in1963. Exactly! Dammit! Let me get into Felix

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Faust's backstory. Felix Faust was an ancientsorcerer whose recorded history dates back to
around 5000 BC, when he rose within the AfricanEmpire of Kor. There, the realm's ruler, King
Namo, served as both monarch and guardian of themystical Flame of Life, a source of

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near-limitless magical energy. Obsessed withseizing that power, Faust delved into forbidden
rites, mastered the dark art of black magic, andsummoned legions of shadow spirits to wage war
against Namo's kingdom. His sorcery poisoned theskies and drained the land, but Namo absorbed the
Flame into himself, turning its power inward tobanish Faust's soul to another dimension. For

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millennia, Faust's disembodied spirit enduredimprisonment, sustained only by its hatred and
hunger for lost magic. In the 1920s, an occultistnamed Dekan Drake uncovered records of Faust's
confinement and sought to release him, believinghe would be rewarded with power. When Drake opened

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the dimensional gate, Faust devoured his soul andpossessed his body. Though restored to life,
Faust's magic was greatly reduced, forcing him torely on familiars, grimoires, and packs with
demons to channel power. Determined to reclaimhis former strength, he spent decades hunting
cursed relics and manipulating occultsocieties. Over time, he fathered two children,

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Sebastian and Fauna, both born with traces of hisarcane lineage. In his relentless pursuit of
power, Faust later attempted to sacrificeSebastian's soul to the demon Nibiros, but the
ritual backfired and beowing his son with magicalabilities of his own. Faust sought to regain his
lost abilities by summoning and controlling thedemons three. Abnegazar, Wrath, and Gast,

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ancient reality-warping entities imprisonedbeneath the earth. To gather the relics that bound
them, the red jar of Calythos, green bellow Uthul,and silver wheel of Nyarlath, he magically
enslaved the Justice League to retrieve them.Once freed, the demons turned on Faust, and
Aquaman destroyed the spell's control circle,ending the attempt and sending Faust to prison.

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Over time, Faust's reliance on infernal powerdeepened. He repeatedly sold and repurchased his
soul, each deal eroding his power further. Indesperation, he attempted to deceive Miron,
ruler of Hell, by offering an innocent girl's soulinstead of his own. Miron sought through the trick
and condemned him to a dimension reserved formagicians who abused the laws of magic. After

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centuries of torment, Faust escaped back toearth, his sanity and power both unstable. He
returned to prominence as an enemy of the JusticeLeague and as an ally of various villainous
factions, including the Injustice Gang and theSeeker Society of Supervillains, serving as
their arcane specialist. During this period, hisstrained relationship with his son Sebastian

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escalated. When Sebastian joined the outsiders,Faust sent demonic agents to capture him, and in
the ensuing conflict, he recovered two of thedemon 3's relics, but Halo and Looker destroyed
them before he could harness their power. You canlearn more about the outsiders in their duel
against X-Force. Faust's ambitions reachedtheir peak in a ritual known as the Black Baptism.

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He assembled infernal covens across the globe tosiphon the life-horse of Earth's magicians into a
single rite that would reset all magic under hiscontrol. Demon assassins abducted mystics
including Zatana and Deadman to power theceremony. The Justice League, aided by Blue Devil
and Sebastian Faust, disrupted the ritual. At itsheight, Felix attempted to absorb the captured

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souls, but Sebastian severed the conduit,collapsing the spell. The backlash stripped
Faust of his stolen power and scattered hisfollowers, forcing him back into hiding. Years
later, Faust resurfaced posing as Dr. Fates,attempting to deceive a long-aided man into
trading his soul to Niran in exchange forresurrecting his wife. Ralph Dibney saw through

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the ruse and reversed the trap, binding both Niranand Faust inside the Tower of Fates. Faust
eventually escaped, but his reputation amongstoccult circles fell even lower. You can learn more
about elongated man in Our Elongated Man vs MedusaDuel episode. Following his escape, he allied
with Professor Ivo, Solomon Grundy, and Dr.Impossible, posing as Deadman to trick Red

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Tornado into inhabiting a human body, whilestealing the android's original shell for
experimentation. Faust later joined Talia ElGhul and Cheetah in an attempt to recruit Black
Alice into the Seeker Society of Supervillains.When she refused, she turned his own power against
him, using it to resurrect her mother. DuringBlack Adam's quest to revive his wife Isis, Faust

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interfered again, replacing Isis' bones withthose of Ralph Dibney to sabotage the
resurrection spell. He later revived the realIsis himself and held her captive until she broke
free. You can learn more about Black Adam in hisduel against Apocalypse. Faust remained aligned
with the Seeker Society assisting in the creationof the android known as Genocide by collecting the

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mystical elements needed for her construction.After the Flashpoint reset, Faust's history was
rewritten. He was reimagined as the son of Majika,one of Earth's first sorcerers and an heir to a long
lineage of dark magicians. In the 1500s, he alliedwith Vandal Savage and trained an apprentice
named Aurora, pursuing immortality throughforbidden magic. During this period, he

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encountered time-traveling heroes Robin andSuperboy, who disrupted one of his rituals and
forced him to retreat. In the modern era, Faustbecame obsessed with finding the books of magic, a
compendium set to contain all arcane knowledge.To acquire the secrets of the damned sorcerer Nick
Necro, Faust sold his soul to a demon trading hismortality for Necro's power. The pact granted him

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vast new abilities but left his body pale andcorpse-like. Together with Nick Necro and Dr.
Mist, he sought to seize the books of magic from theJustice League Dark. Their scheme was undone by
John Constantine and Faust was captured by Argusand confined within their Black Room facility.
You can learn more about the Justice League Darkand John Constantine and their respective duels

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against the Midnight Suns and Brother Voodoo.During the crime syndicate's invasion, Faust was
conscripted alongside Necro to construct amagical weapon called the Thaumaton, designed to
harness and destroy divine energy. Workingbeside Enchantress, Sargon the Sorcerer, Blue
Devil, and Zatana, Faust helped power the deviceuntil the Justice League Dark sabotaged it in a

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battle at Nanda Parbat, leaving him powerlessonce more. Faust later reappeared among the
Occult Underworld when industrialist HenryBendix attempted to hire sorcerers to kill
Midnighter and Apollo. He declined the offer,unwilling to serve others' agendas. His powers
gradually returned and his ghastly form faded.The extra-dimensional entities known as the

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Otherkind began consuming magical beings, Faustwas among their victims. Bound nearly mindless by
Zatana and Wonder Woman, he regained just enoughawareness to reveal a clue to the Sorcerer
Mordor's location, reverie trading again intoobscurity. That's Faust's backstory so far.
Powers-wise, Felix Faust is a master sorcererwith expertise in soul magic, necromancy, and

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infernal packs. His abilities includespellcasting, energy projection, elemental
manipulation, illusion, telepathy,teleportation, and summoning entities such as
the Demon's Three. He can bind, transfer, orresurrect souls, create magical constructs, and
scry across great distances. Faust's power islargely drawn from external sources, like

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familiars, relics, grimoires, or demonicpatrons, due to the degradation of his natural
magic reserves. He is vulnerable to pure divinemagic and cannot safely channel it without a
medium. Though physically frail, he compensateswith defensive wards, decoys, escape spells, and
other occult resources. That's Felix Faust. Whata coward. Uh, it fucking works, kinda. Like Baron

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Mordo, he doesn't have the greatest history ofsuccess. That's the problem with villains and
their backstories. It just turns into a longstring of failures over time because the hero
always wins. Pfft, lame. But villains should notbe discounted, or at least Baron Mordo shouldn't
be. And especially Felix Faust. Mike PodcastNetwork presents Console Combat, where video

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game legends brawl every Monday. Dynamic Duel,where comic book titans smash every Tuesday. Max
Destruction, where TV and action heroes battleevery Wednesday. And Cendro World, where anime
champions clash every Thursday. Join us as wespeculate on the matches and armed with the power
of mathematical simulations discover who willemerge victorious. Visit dynamicpodcast.com,

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where we settle the debate and settle the score.But now that we've got their histories and
abilities out of the way, let's speculate on howone of the 1000 simulated matches will go. The
winner is determined by simulations, not thisspeculation. But it's fun to imagine how this
fight could play out. AJ9K, what are the rules ofour speculation? Well, I should say there are no

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rules. Other than the characters have no priorknowledge of the other going into the fight. All
they are aware of starting out is that the othercharacter is a threat that needs to be eliminated.
For the speculation, the contestants will beginapproximately 50 meters apart in a nondescript
environment that will have no bearing on the matchitself, as no environmental statistics are

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considered in my simulations. The contestantsmust earn victory on their own merit. Alright
then, let's get into it. Felix Faust and BaronMordo meet on the battlefield. Who goes first? You
always go first, so I'm going to go first this time.Baron Mordo is going to start off by pulling out
this dagger from his cloak, and he drags it acrossthe palm of his hand, drawing blood, and that's

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going to summon this giant tentacle that eruptsfrom the ground beneath him. It's going to be like
20 yards long, and it just smacks the shit out ofFelix Faust, sending him flying across the floor
and breaking all of his ribs. Alright, well if youhave a dagger, I'm going to say Felix Faust at least
has a small grimoire that floats in his hand. So asthat tentacle is coming out of the ground, Faust's

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book is going to flip to a specific page that he'sgoing to read from, and it's going to ignite that
tentacle on fire and cause it to screech in pain andthen just return back to the ground. And once it
does that, Faust flips to another page, andrecites a spell that causes Baron Mordo's dagger
to melt and it just slips out of his grasp into apuddle on the ground. Okay, so the dagger becomes a

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puddle. We'll say like the puddle's the size of amanhole cover, and Mordo casts a spell on it, and
out of this puddle leaps this silver skeletonwho's holding a sword, like a cutlass, and then
like five more skeletons pop out of this puddle,and all six of them charge at Felix Faust and just
stab his ass repeatedly. Okay, but Faust, he'sgoing to counter with a spell on his own shadow

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that's going to cause it to duplicate, and from theshadows emerge these dark like magic Faust clones
that are all going to blast the silver skeletonswith these eldritch fireballs, and that's going
to make those bones scatter all over theenvironment. Okay, but Mordo is going to compress

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all of these shadow clones into a shadow ball oflike dark energy, and it's going to continue to
press until it becomes like this magicalsingularity, like a black hole that pulls Faust
into it and sends them to like this dark dimensionof pain and spikes, like an iron maiden dimension

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where he's pierced for the rest of eternity.Actually, Faust divined from the scattered
silver skeleton bones that Mordo was going toattempt to put him into a dark dimension. So he was
prepared. He just turned invisible and from hiscloak, he pulled out this small doll that grew in

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size and that got sucked into the dark dimensioninstead. And each time that doll gets pierced,
it's actually Mordo that feels the pain becauseit's like a voodoo doll. Okay, well, once Mordo
starts feeling the spikes from this voodoo doll,he's going to pull out of his cloak a tarot card and
it's basically the same thing as like a magic Unoreverse card. So instead of Mordo feeling pain

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from getting pierced, it's Faust because thevoodoo doll now represents Faust and Faust is
getting poked and it causes him to drop out of hisinvisibility. Shit. Okay. Well, once Faust
starts to feel the piercings of his flesh, hetelekinetically positions the doll within the

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spike dimension so that it's pierced in a specificway, like a stigmata combined with his chakra
points. And that's actually going to amplify hispower. So with these glowing lines connecting
these pierced points on his body, this third eye isgoing to appear glowing on his forehead. And from

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it, he shoots this massive sized beam of magicenergy straight at Mordo. And this can't be Uno
reversed, by the way, because the card getsdestroyed. Well, wouldn't destroying an Uno
reverse card just destroy yourself? No, becauseit's like a draw for wild type of counter magic
energy. Shit. Okay. So the card gets destroyed.Mordo gets knocked down from the blast, but he

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manages to quickly throw up a magic shield. That'slike in the shape of this mouth, like a fanged mouth
that feeds on Faust's third eye energy. It's goingto absorb it and feed it back to Mordo. And this
absorption is going to drain Faust. It's going toturn him into like this desiccated corpse. And
like his soul just gets sucked right out of histhird eye. And then he falls to the ground, just

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dead. And Mordo is like glowing with all this redevil energy that was fed to him. Well, that's funny
that you think Faust needs his soul. So Faust'sbody falls to the ground and splatters,
basically. And it's going to get absorbed into theearth. But suddenly from beneath Mordo,
thousands of these tiny human veins and arteriesquickly spurt from the ground and cover him in like

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a net. And that's going to leech into a skin and thatglowing red energy suddenly turns black as
Mordo's magically poisoned. And slowly hisfacial features are going to turn into that of
Felix Faust, who is taking over Mordo's body. Andsince he's the last one standing, he wins the duel.

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Well, I think Baron Mordo would realize that he'sbeing magically poisoned by these veins and
arteries from the ground. So he's going to drink apotion that he pulls from his cloak and it's going
to cure him of his magic poison. And he just pukes upFaust, who's just this like gross pile of biomass
on the ground. And therefore Mordo wins. No, butthis biomass is going to grow Faust's head and like

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a semblance of a human body, like like the creaturefrom the thing. OK. And from that creature's body
emerges a bell, wheel and a jar, which are going tosummon the demons three. And under Faust's will,
they're going to reshape reality so that BaronMordo's mind like inverts itself, revealing his

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darkest secrets and fears. And he's going to liveout eternity tormented by his own nightmares. So
Faust wins. That's that's some dark shit, kind oflike a nightmare that Felix Faust wakes up from
because this whole battle was just a hypnoticillusion that Felix Faust was experiencing while
in reality he's bleeding out from beingsacrificed by Baron Mordo to Dormammu. Really,

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you're going to pull the whole it was all a dream.Yep. Baron Mordo sacrificed Felix Faust to
Dormammu. And that's what really happened. Iguess we can leave it there. Either that happens or
we don't take the lazy way out and Felix Faustactually traps Baron Mordo and his own
nightmarish hell. Let's leave the match there andput the stats run the simulations and come back

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with a winner. A G9K hit it. Inputting data,running calculations, processing results,
simulations complete. All right. I mentionedearlier that these characters had similar
backstories and it's not really any surprise theyhad very similar stats. They're basically the
same character, like speed, versatility,invasiveness, durability, perception,

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intellect, strength, range, damage, theirfeats, their stats were all exactly the same. They
differed in one category, however, and that wasfighting skill. Surprisingly, Felix Faust is one
of the weakest fighters in DC, whereas Baron Mordodoes not really fight, but it is established

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canon. And this is reflected on Marvel's officialpower grid stats for him that he has some fight
training from Tibetan monks. Considering that,Jonathan, tell me who you think is winning this
match. It's of course going to be close. I can onlypray for a statistical miracle, essentially. I
will say that Instagram thinks that Felix Faust isgoing to win. 60% of them voted in his favor in our

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Instagram poll. Well, I think that's just a bunchof DC fans on Instagram jumping on the bandwagon
because DC has won a few recently. They're going tolearn today. They might not going to lie. Well,
let's find out. HG9K, the results, please. Hey,you are, sir. All right. The winner between Felix
Faust and Baron Mordo is Baron motherfuckingMordo. Yeah. Congratulations. You're going to

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stay married. Oh, I can't wait to show my wife thisepisode. She'll finally respect you again. Can I
just say how stupid it is that it came down to thefighting stat? Well, I mean, if they're going tit
for tat through all their thousand battles, atsome point things might turn physical because

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they've exhausted everything else. And I don'tmean in that way. I mean, like a physical fight. And
if it comes down to that, yeah, Baron Mordo is goingto take it. But really, I don't see it coming down to
that very often. I guess in approximately like 37matches or so out of the thousand. Wait, what were
the win percentages? Oh, yeah. Baron Mordo won 537matches out of a thousand, whereas Felix Faust won

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463. So it was 53.7 percent over 46.3 percent. OK,so pretty close. Not surprised. Not close enough.
DC just can't hang with how awesome Marvel is. It'sembarrassing. You should be embarrassed for this
loss. I hope you are along with all DC fans. Marvelfans, go ahead and pat yourselves on the back. You
did it. You did it this time. Yeah, this time thistime you got lucky. Yeah, Marvel fans getting

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lucky. Unlike DC fans, fucking virgins. Not thatthere's anything wrong with that. H &K, help close
us out. Spotify, Podchaser or on our website.Don't forget to listen to the other shows in the

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Dynamite podcast network, including MaxDestruction, Senjo World and Console Combat. In
our next episode, Continuing Spooktober, we willbe pitting the lords of the underworld against
each other, Nieran versus Hella. That'll be a goodone. I'm looking forward to that. And the episode
following that, which will be our Halloween duel,which will keep a secret until our next episode.

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But that does it for this one. We want to give a bigthanks to our executive producers, John
Staroski, Zachary Hepburn, Dustin Belcom,Mickey Muthin-Gian, Nathaniel Wagner, Levi
Yatyn, Austin Wieselowski, AJ Dunkerly, NickObanto, Scott Camacho, Gil Camacho, Adam Spees,
Dean Maleski, Devin Davis, Joseph Kirsting, JoshSchleiner, Mike Williams and Paul Graves for
helping make this podcast possible. We'll talk toyou guys next week. Up up and away, true believers. 538 00:55:42,140 --> Honestly, I tried to bring that Uno draw four wild card energy into daily life.