Jonah Hex vs Deathlok

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• 0:00:00 - Introduction 
• 0:04:14 - No-Prize Time 
• 0:11:55 - Brainiac confirmed as villain for Man of Tomorrow 
• 0:14:36 - Jimmy Olsen spinoff television show in development 
• 0:16:57 - Surprise Flash/Fantastic 4 and Shazam/Thor crossover comics 
• 0:18:25 - Question of the Week 
• 0:19:28 - Jonah Hex vs Deathlok intro 
• 0:23:03 - Deathlok history and abilities 
• 0:33:14 - Jonah Hex history and abilities 
• 0:42:22 - Fight speculation 
• 0:50:45 - Duel results 
• 0:54:01 - Sign off 
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Episode Transcript

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This is a DynaMic Network Podcast. If you'relistening to this show, you've got a favorite

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welcome to the DynaMic Duel Podcast, a weekly showwhere we review superhero films and debate the
superiority between Marvel and DC by comparingtheir characters and stat-based battle
simulations. I'm Marvelous Joe and I'm his twinbrother, Johnny DC. And in this episode, we're
going to find out who would win in a fight betweenthe cowboy character of Jonah Hex and the zombie

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cyborg character of Deathlock. Everybody knowsyou put a cowboy against anyone, the cowboy's
coming out on top. Sure, except for zombiecyborgs, obviously. Dude, zombies are like the
easiest things to kill except when they'recyborgs. Except when the cyborg has a zombie
brain. No, he has a human brain, it's reanimated,and he also has a computer brain to go with it.

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Marvel needs to make up their mind. Is he a zombie?Is he a cyborg? What's going on? He's a winner is
what he is. And we're going to find out later on thisepisode when he beats Jonah Hex. Before we get into
that battle, we're going to break down the latestcomic book movie news to come out this past week, of
which we have a few news items, including the newsthat Brainiac has been confirmed as the villain
for the Man of Tomorrow film. We got a couplesurprise crossover comic books released by

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Marvel and DC, the publishing divisions. And wealso learned there is a Jimmy Olsen spin-off
television series in development. As always, welist our segment times in the episode
description, so feel free to check out the shownotes if you want to skip ahead to a particular
topic. Our artificially intelligent dualsimulator, AJ9K, has a quick message for our
listeners. So listen up. Why hello there. Do youwant even more from this podcast? Then become a

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Lastly, the Dynamite podcast network tier letsyou create your own podcast using this Monte Carlo

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dynamicdualpodcast at gmail.com. Check it out atpatreon.com slash dynamic dual. Pip pip cheerio.
Thanks AJ9K and thanks to everyone who supportsthe podcast. Guys, be sure to tune into the other

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shows in the Dynamite podcast network this week,including the console combat podcast, where
hosts John and Dean simulate battles betweenpopular video game characters. In yesterday's
episode, they found out who would win betweenTartarus from Halo and General Ramm from Gears of
War. Over on the Max Destruction podcast, hostsScotty and Gilly, pet your favorite action heroes

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from film and television against each other. TheMacho Twins are taking a quick break, but they'll
be back in December with some Christmas seasonduals. On the Central World podcast, host Zachary
Hepburn speculates on fights between fanfavorite anime and manga characters. In his next
episode, Zach is revealing who would win betweenShigeyo Kagayama, aka Mob from Mob Psycho 100 and

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Tatsumaki the tornado of terror from One PunchMan. Visit dynamicpodcasts.com or click the link
in our show notes to listen to all the shows in theDynamite podcast network. But with that out of the
way, quick to the No Prize. A No Prize is an awardthat Marvel used to give out to fans. Our version,
the Dynamic Dual No Prize, is a digital award thatwe post on Instagram for the person that we feel

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gave the best answer to our question of the week.Last week, we asked you guys, what Marvel or DC
movie or television show from 2025 has been yourfavorite and why? And this is coming off of the end
of Peacemaker Season 2, which was the final showreleased by Marvel or DC for this year. There's
nothing really else that they're putting outthat's new. So we wanted to get your guys'

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opinions. Let's run down our honorable mentionsas well as the No Prize winner. Our first honorable
mention goes to Alex Albro, who said, Not to be adead horse, but it's got to be Superman. You know, I
was worried about this movie, but you could feelthe excitement in the parking lot in line for
concessions in the theater. Seeing him bleed inthe opening moments was so abnormal and crazy. To
me, you know, this was a big determining factor inwhether or not I keep up with DC. And it sold me. Made

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me like a character I've historically dislikedfor a long time. Plus, you know, my wife liked it a
lot too, which is great because she only goes tothese movies because I ask her to. She's not a huge
fan, but she really liked Superman. Yeah, one ofthe biggest criticisms against Superman is that
he's too powerful. So for this movie to open the wayit did with him losing his first battle and we get to

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see him bruised and bleeding, I'm sure it was ashock for a lot of people who make that criticism
against the character. Yeah, I think James Gunnknows that a vulnerable Superman is an
interesting Superman, whether that beemotionally vulnerable or physically
vulnerable. I think that's one of the main reasonswhy this particular movie resonated with fans as
much as it did this year. Great answer, Alex. Ournext honorable mention goes to Colby Hinchus, who

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said, Hey, boys, Colby Hinchus, the best Marvel DCproject of 2025 was Superman. That movie had no
right being as good as it was. I've watched itprobably 20 times since it's been on Max. It's
everything I wanted DC movie to be. It'severything the Snyderverse wasn't, which makes
it great. Yeah, James Gunn's approach toSuperman, making him more human, is pretty much

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exactly the opposite of what Zack Snyder tried todo, which was essentially to deify the character.
And whereas James Gunn's Superman wasempathetic, even going so far as to save squirrels
in Zack Snyder's universe, of course, you have podcan't questioning whether Clark Kent should even
save a school bus full of children. They could notbe more different. And I think the success of James

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Gunn's Superman goes to show how people expect thecharacter of Superman to be. He nailed that. Do you
think James Gunn's Superman film affects yourstar rating for the Man of Steel movie? I still like
Man of Steel. I think it's an interestingElseworlds tale. Like a sci-fi take on Superman, I
think is really cool. But I do think that James Gunnnailed the character of Superman that I am more

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familiar with from the comics. Gotcha. I would sayJames Gunn is more of a comic fan, whereas Zack
Snyder is probably more of like a philosophy andmythology fan, I suppose. Well, great answer to
Colby. Our final honorable mention goes to by DearBangora. Who said? Oh, Daniel, I think the best
show of 2020. To be the second only the second.We'll turn again. I think the pacing are better.

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The story telling was better. You can see that itwas a bit different from there. And you can also see
that the story and continues. And it seems like acontinuation of the previous Daredevil series.
So for me, it has to be the second half of Daredevil.One again. See, I'm the opposite. I actually liked
the opening of Daredevil born again more than theclosing. Well, the first episode was fantastic,

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right? Or at least the first part of the firstepisode. I enjoyed the show overall, and you could
definitely listen to our review of that serieswhile it didn't quite hold up to the Netflix
series. I think it's still very much carried on thetorch that the Netflix series started. The show
runners didn't switch halfway through theseason. So I guess I'm a little bit confused why by
dear preferred the second half. But I will say thatthe series did kind of meander a little bit in the

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middle of the season and didn't quite pick back upuntil we got into the Muse story arc. Great answer
by dear, but the winner of this week's No Prize isTravis Herndon. Who said? What's up, Dany Medus?
Travis here. Shout out to Maevele Twin. So myanswer would be your friendly neighborhood,
Spider-Man. I know like since the teaser trailerand pictures and stuff came out, everybody was

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bashing on it from the art style to it being quoteunquote woke because of the great swaps and even
you guys were a little bit against it. But after itcame out, the show was really good. Love how the
origins of certain heroes and villains andeverything. And I really enjoyed the show and I
can't wait for season two. So yeah. Yeah. Thereason that Travis won this week's No Prize is

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largely because one, he gave an original answer,but also I have a lot to say about your friendly
neighborhood, Spider-Man. Now, quickdisclaimer, I haven't finished the season yet.
I've only on episode like four or five, I think. ButI can see where people would enjoy it because the
animation is fantastic. Done in the Steve Ditkoart style, the way Spider-Man moves and like

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swings through the city is probably the mostdynamic and visually spectacular the character
has ever looked in animation. Obviously not moreso than the Spider-Verse films, though. I was just
about to say what? Yeah. The music is fantastic inthe show. So it looks and sounds amazing. That
being said, my gripes with the show still hold frommy criticisms of when the show was being

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developed. It was initially marketed as being ananimated version of the MCU. Peter Parker giving
us a look at his early days of being Spider-Manduring his freshman year. In fact, the show was
called Spider-Man freshman year. They changed itto your friendly neighborhood, Spider-Man, when
it was clear it was no longer going to be an MCUSpidey, but rather a multiversal variant of

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Spidey. And the story is close enough to the MCUSpider-Man to kind of just piss you off because
they make a whole bunch of changes that I feel likewere unnecessary. Not in terms of like race
bending or anything like that, but in terms of likehaving Peter go through experiences in his
freshman year that we know that MCU Peter wentthrough in his sophomore year, changing things

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like his crush from Liz to Pearl, changing thingslike his origin being magical in nature and that he
was bitten by a spider that came through a mysticalportal. As a matter of fact, Doctor Strange was
there when Peter Parker got bit in this series,which kind of negates the whole introduction that
they had where Peter Parker was like, oh, we'regoing by our made up names. So I'm Spider-Man, you

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know. So there's a lot that the series takes awayfrom MCU Spidey. At the end of the day, I still
really wanted this to be what it was initiallymarketed as, as Tom Holland's Spider-Man's
origin story. It's clever, sure, and how itapproaches its universe's characters and
origins and things like that. But I've also seenthat done really well in other animated
Spider-Man shows, like Spectacular Spider-Manor the 90s Spider-Man. I mean, like I've said

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before, when I first heard that this was amultiverse story, I was like, yeah, I'm not going
to watch that. Is it worth watching? Do yourecommend it? I think if you're a Spider-Man fan
who isn't sick of seeing his original storyrehashed time and again, especially if you're a
fan of the early Ditko comic books and stuff likethat, I think it's worth checking out for sure. OK,
so I should not watch it. Yeah, probably not. Yes.Well, great answer, Travis. I'm glad you like the

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show. Congrats on winning this week's No Prize. Ifyou, the listener, want to shot at winning your own
No Prize, stay tuned to later on in this episodewhen we'll be asking another question of the week.
But now that that's done, on to the news. OK, theworld's worst kept secret. It was revealed last

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week by Umberto Gonzalez of The Wrap that the mainvillain of the Superman sequel, Man of Tomorrow,
is Brainiac. Now, we all suspected that this wasgoing to be the case. James Gunn didn't
necessarily even try to hide it going so far as toput an image of a brain on the script cover for Man of

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Tomorrow. But I do got to say with this newsconfirmed, I am super excited to see Brainiac in
live action. He's the number one villain I'vealways wanted to see in a Superman movie. There's
been a lot of depictions of him in a lot of othermedia, like the animated series, like the video
games, like Injustice, or even like the MyAdventures with Superman cartoon that came out

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last year. I think with the advent of AI in reallife, this is a very timely villain. And I'm super
stoked to see him go toe to toe up against bothSuperman and Lex Luthor. Oh, yeah, super timely.
Although is Brainiac AI what you consider him?Sometimes he is. Sometimes he's more like an
alien. What's your preferred version ofBrainiac? Oh, that's a good question. I actually

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do prefer it when he is an AI who maybe kind ofdeveloped his own body. The Kaluan version is not
my favorite version, though I wouldn't hate it ifthey went that direction. Brainiac, if you
remember, in our Brainiac versus Ultron match isfrom the planet Colu, a alien race of super
intelligent beings. And he was like the smartestone. I really liked the version that was in My

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Adventures with Superman season two. He wasreally unique in there. Of course, Brainiac has
been in a few animated movies as well, includingone from the 90s called Superman Brainiac
attacks. And then I think he was also the mainantagonist in Superman Unbound. Yes, that's
correct. And he was also in Superman Red Sun. I'msuper curious to see who they're going to cast in
the role. I'm hoping they're going to make thatannouncement soon because this movie starts

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filming in April, surprisingly, which isawesome. Like remember when they used to make
superhero movies back to back? Yeah, they wouldlike release the movie and then the following year
they would film the sequel so that the followingyear after that they would release the sequel. So
we would get the sequels a couple years apart fromeach other as opposed to five, six, seven years

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apart looking at you, Shang-Chi. Yeah, this is theway to do it. Brainiac is the way to go. I am all
aboard the hype train. Just be sure to check yourexpectations right out of the gate, Jonathan. You
haven't even seen the Supergirl movie yet. Oh, Iwonder if they'll have like an end credits teaser
of Brainiac. That would be dope. Sure. And other DCSuperman related news. We also learned that DC

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Studios is developing a Jimmy Olsen spin off TVseries from the character that we saw in the
Superman movie. It's from the American Vandalcreators. If you're familiar with that show, it's
on Netflix. It won a Peabody and I think it wasnominated for an Emmy. It's a fantastic show. If
you haven't seen it, hilarious. And I wonder ifthey're going to take the same kind of

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mockumentary approach with this Jimmy Olsen spinoff show. Some people are calling it DC crime. I'm
not sure why. I don't think James Gunn knows whyeither. But I'm all there for it because it looks
like a lot of the Daily Planet stars are set toreturn. I mean, that's great because I would say
that the Daily Planet cast was underutilized andlargely pointless in the Superman movie, which

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was surprising considering the cast that they hadfor them, you know, like Beck Bennett, Wendell
Pierce, McKayla Hoover and ChristopherMcDonald. They played Steve Lombard, Perry
White, Kat Grant and Ron Troupe respectively. Ialso wonder if maybe David Cornswet and Rachel
Brosnahan will return to their roles also as Clarkand Lois. That would be cool. I'm not sure how

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excited people are about this, but I remember whenthey announced the powerless television show,
people were bitching about that for some reason,because I found the premise quite interesting.
And then the show came out and like you liked it, youwatched it. You thought it was great, but it ended
up getting canceled early, largely due to the lackof interest in it. I hope that doesn't happen with
this. Yes, this is a television series that no oneasked for. That doesn't mean it won't be good. I

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mean, I asked for this. I love this. I think if DCwants to get this off the ground, they should just
title this spin off series The Daily Planet. Yeah,you got brand name recognition right there. I
would also accept the adventures of Jimmy Olsen.No, no one's going to watch that. I would. And I hope
he would get turtle powers. Apparently the show isgoing to revolve also around Gorilla Grodd,

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though. Maybe it's like Jimmy Olsen trackingGorilla Grodd in Metropolis. And that sounds
amazing. How are you not excited about this?Anyone who's not excited about this? Because you
should be. I mean, throwing in Gorilla Grodd doessound a little bit ridiculous, but in the best way.
OK, in other news, in comic book news, actually, ina follow up to the Deadpool, Batman, Marvel and DC

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crossover comic event from earlier this year, thepublishers dropped two surprise web comics on DC
Universe Infinite and Marvel Unlimited, a flashand fantastic for crossover story and a Shazam
Thor crossover story. I think largely it was ameans of promoting the other publishers' digital

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subscription content, because it was theweirdest thing. As a Marvel Unlimited
subscriber, I suddenly got an email from Marvelwith an offer to subscribe to DC Comics. It was so
fucking disturbing. It's like hell is freezingover. Yeah. And I don't know, like, is that a good
thing? What's happening? Is the science of like aconsistent partnership and collaboration going

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forward? Maybe even potentially a merger down theline? Better not. Is all I'm saying. We got to keep
these things separate. Otherwise, I'm not goingto know who to root for. It would be like Star Wars
and Star Trek promoting each other's content.Yeah, or like Pepsi and Coke joining forces to
release a new drink together. Ew. Pepsi Coke. Thatsounds disgusting. I would spit that out. Same

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here. That being said, if Marvel and DC want tocollaborate on a fighting video game, combining
the two universes, I would be all for that. That isall I've ever wanted in life. I did read the Shazam
Thor crossover comic book. I thought it was prettygood that you teamed up against Mr. Mind. I enjoyed
it. But this crossover event brings us to ourquestion of the week. Well, Marvel versus DC

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crossover, have you always wanted to see in thecomics? And why? Out of all the crossovers we've
gotten from the publishers, including, you know,the 90s DC versus Marvel crossover and even before
that, like the original Superman versusSpider-Man and Hulk versus Batman. Later on in the
2000s, we got JLA Avengers. And then recently, ofcourse, the various crossover events. Besides

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those, what two characters from Marvel and DC haveyou always wanted to read about teaming up or going
up against each other? Record your answer atdynamicdool.com by clicking on the red
microphone button in the bottom right hand cornerof the screen, which will prompt you to leave us a
voicemail. Your message could be up to 30 secondslong. And don't forget to leave your name in case we
include you on the podcast. We'll pick ourfavorite answer and award that person a dynamic

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dual no prize that will post to Instagram. Be sureto answer before November 22nd. But that doesn't
for all the news this week. So let's go ahead andmove into our main event for this episode, where we
find out who would win in a fight between the DCcharacter of Jonah Hex and the Marvel character of

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Deathlock. All right, Jonah Hex versusDeathlock. We've been trying to get both of these
characters in a duel for years now. And the time hasfinally come. They're both semi popular, I think,

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within their respective universes. Jonah Hexeven had a film adaptation and he was a prominent
character in one of the seasons of Legends ofTomorrow. Yeah, he was also featured in an episode
of the Batman animated series and had his own DCshowcase short, which was pretty good. Yeah, I
really liked that one. Deathlock hasn't been in asmuch media, I would say. There was a version of the

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character that was in the agents of shieldtelevision series, although it wasn't the
version of the character that I'll be going with,which is the original Deathlock from the comic
books named Luther Manning. Basically, the otherversions of Deathlock would be way too damn
powerful for Jonah Hex. So we went with theoriginal and let's beefed up a version of
Deathlock. Yeah, basically, the reason we and theexecutive producers decided to pit these two

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characters against each other is because we thinkthey're awesome. And also because they have a lot
of similarities in terms of like half of their faceis missing and they're also really good marksmen
with their guns. That's pretty much it. Yeah,you're right. I don't know much about Jonah Hex, so
I'm interested in learning how accurate the movieadaptation was for the character. Well, I'm here

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to set the record straight about how sucky theirinterpretation of Jonah Hex was. But before that,
to explain the methodology behind our duels,let's go to our sentient dual simulator, Alfred
Jarvis, 9000. AJ9K, tell our listeners how you goabout determining a winner in our dual matchups.
Yes, of course, sir. The way I determine a winnerbetween the contestants is by running 1000 Monte

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Carlo simulations using the charactersstatistics. A Monte Carlo simulation is a
probabilistic model used to determine outcomesthrough random sampling. In this case, I
randomize the statistics along a normaldistribution as a way to simulate the many
variables that can occur during battle. The statparameters are based on the official Marvel power
grid from which the DC characters statistics areextrapolated. Additional stat categories are

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included such as range, damage potential,versatility and perception in order to create a
more detailed and accurate simulation. Theresults of the 1000 simulations provide a
percentage of wins for each character. Thecontestant with the higher percentage is
declared the victor as they have a higherprobability to win any given battle. In an
equitable pairing, neither character should win100% of the matches. The comic book stories have

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shown that there's even a way for Batman to defeatSuperman. So the confidence rate of my method
falls in line with the precedents that have beenestablished in the source material. My
mathematical simulations are withoutsubjectivity or bias. Feats are not the sole
consideration, nor are fan votes tabulated fordetermination of the winner. Thanks, AJ9K.
Before we run the simulations, though, we like tobreak down each character's histories and

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abilities before improvising a scenario on how weimagine one of the 1000 simulations would play out
beat for beat. And I believe it's my turn to go firstwith the Marvel characters backstory. So let me
tell you all about Deathlock. Luther Manning was aDetroit, Michigan native from an alternate
reality called Earth 7484 in the greater Marvelmultiverse. He enlisted in the US Army and rose to

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the rank of Colonel before the political collapseof his reality. In his timeline, the Age of Heroes
ended when the multinational corporation,RocksOn, used dimensional technology to
eliminate Earth's superhumans. The aftermathtriggered widespread war and devastation across
the United States. Manning served through thisturmoil, but during a training exercise, he was

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critically injured by a concussion bomb.Declared legally dead after failing to survive
surgery, he was selected by Major Simon Riker forProject Alphamec, a covert initiative intended
to produce cyborg soldiers. Manning's remainswere rebuilt by Simon's brother Harlan, who
transplanted Manning's brain, nervous system,and surviving organic tissue into a cybernetic

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body. After five years in stasis, Manning wasreanimated as the cyborg Deathlock, named for his
ability to be locked into a suspended death-likestate. Riker oversaw his training and
deployment, intending to use the cyborgs to seizeglobal power, while Harlan pursued his own vision
of replacing humanity entirely with cyborgs thathe called Homo Ascendant. As Deathlock's human

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memories reemerged, he began resisting hisprogram's directives and ultimately broke free
of Riker's control. In discovering his newcondition, he learned that he had been declared
dead and that his wife had remarried his friend,Mike Travers. Unable to take his own life due to
built-in fail safes, he instead dedicatedhimself to undermining Riker, who at overtime

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also become a cyborg through his brother Harlan'sexperiments. Riker attempted to merge with New
York's Omni Computer to become the digital entitycalled Savier Machine, but Deathlock forced him
out, leaving Riker mentally shattered. The CIAattempted to restore Luther's humanity by
transferring his consciousness into a clonedhuman body, but the process only recreated his

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memories in the clone while leaving the cyborgunchanged. Deathlock continued operating for
the agency, primarily targeting the threat ofHarlan Riker, now operating as the cyborg
Hellinger. During this period, Deathlockencountered a time-traveling Spider-Man from
Earth 616, Marvel's primary timeline, as an earlysign of the temporal disruptions that would

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repeatedly intersect with Luther's life.Deathlock soon encountered Godwolf, a former
rocks-on operative turned rebel leader whosought to save what remained of America after the
elimination of the world's superhumans plungedinto chaos. To protect him from Hellinger's
forces, Godwolf displaced Deathlock throughtime to Earth 616. There, Deathlock assisted the

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mystic hero Devil Slayer against a cult before anattempt to return him home was intercepted by the
Fixer and Mintello. The villains implanted acontrol device in Luther and used the cyborg in an
assassination plot against the US president, buttheir plan was stopped by the Fantastic Four and
the Impossible Man. Freed from external control,Deathlock entered a catatonic state and was taken

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into shield custody. Agents of Earth 616'srocks-on later stole Deathlock's cyborg body and
delivered it to their corporation facility,where this timeline's version of Harlan Riker
examined it. Riker created a fully roboticDeathlock duplicate which was subsequently
destroyed by the Thing and Quasar. Meanwhile,Luther's true body was reprogrammed by rocks-on

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for their efforts toward repeating the actions ofEarth 7484 and eliminating the world's
superhumans. In Luther's native reality,Godwolf sent a clone of Luther back in time to
locate the original Deathlock. Luther killed theclone during the confrontation, but the dying
duplicate's touch restored Deathlock'ssuppressed memories and freed him from

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rocks-on's programming. Deathlock returned tohis timeline with Captain America and Godwolf's
team called the Redeemers to stop Hellinger fromdeploying an army of doomsday mechs. Though
Hellinger briefly took control of Deathlock'ssystems, Luther resisted long enough to kill him.
Captain America's subsequent actions in Earth616 prevented rocks-on from destroying his

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country, causing Marvel's reality to divergefrom the timeline that produced Manning.
Deathlock remained active in Earth 7484,assisting Godwolf against the foreign ruler
Timestream after the Redeemers were killed in anAn assault that triggered further global
destruction. Disillusioned upon learningGodwolf had hidden crucial information from him,

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Deathlok abandoned the struggle. He later foughtalongside the deviant Tantalus, though these
battles did little to alter the ongoing collapseof his world. Upon learning that remnants of
Roxxon had resumed their efforts to eliminatesuperhumans in Earth 616, Deathlok traveled back
to that reality, only to be shut down and seized bySHIELD. Though repaired under the assumption he

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could be controlled, Deathlok rebootedautonomously, destroyed Roxxon's developing
technology, and returned to his native timelineonce again. By 2011, the computer core within
Luther's body had deteriorated, leaving himoperating in a severely degraded state and forced
to survive on his own. TimeStream reappeared andrecruited him with promises to rewrite the past so

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that he would never become Deathlok. The schemedrew the attention of the Time Variance
Authority, who sent Godwolf to stop him.TimeStream recruited the human Luther Manning of
Earth 616, while Godwolf enlisted Earth 616'sversion of Deathlok named Michael Collins.
Luther eventually discovered TimeStream's truenature and cited with Michael Collins to end his

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plans. Regarding the Earth 616 version ofDeathlok that I just mentioned, Michael Collins
was a computer programmer and neuroscientistborn in Philadelphia who earned advanced degrees
in prosthetics. A pacifist devoted to ethicaltechnological development, he joined CyberTech
Systems, which was a Roxxon subsidiary,believing his work in neural prosthetics would

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benefit the disabled. Unaware of his company'ssecret Deathlok program, Collins only learned
the truth when he discovered his research had beenappropriated for weapons development. When he
confronted his superior, Harlan Riker, Collinswas shot with a sedative and his brain was
transplanted into CyberTech's newest Deathlokcyborg. Upon awakening in the cyborg body,

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Michael Collins initially had no control over itsactions and witnessed the machine killing
soldiers during field testing. Gradually, heasserted his will, preventing the killing of a
child and overriding the program's lethalityprotocols by imposing a strict no-killing
parameter on the system. He learned that hisoriginal human body still existed and tracked

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Harlan Riker to a weapons deal, capturing himbefore turning him over to authorities.
Michael's existence as Deathlok brought him intocontact with SHIELD, the Fantastic Four, the
X-Men, Spider-Man, and other heroes. Heparticipated in efforts ranging from preventing
a nuclear strike on the United States to stoppingthe Sinister Six and assisting in the defeat of

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Carnage. During this period, he revealed hiscyborg identity to his family, his wife Tracy,
their children Nicholas and Tisha, and hisextended relatives while continuing to search
for a way to restore his original body. Michael waslater abducted to a distant world by the cosmic
scientist called The Stranger and lived there foryears with other superhumans until their

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eventual escape. After the group's escape fromthe alien world, Michael found that he could
revert to human form at will. However, once hearrived back on Earth, he was unable to transform
back into Deathlok, ending his tenure as the hero.Meanwhile, Luther Manning, the original
Deathlok, still resentful of Godwulf'smanipulations, stole a time gauntlet and

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abandoned his native timeline, travelingpermanently to Earth 616. There he lived in the
sewers of Manhattan where he helped protectinnocent residents of an underground community
called the Tunnel Dwellers before departing themto contemplate his existence. There have been
several other victims of the Deathlok programover the years, including Harlan Riker's own

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daughter, called Deathlokit. But that is thehistory of the two primary Deathloks. For this
still, I'll be going with the original LutherManning version of the character because Michael
Collins is just way too strong and durable for it tobe a fair fight against Jonah Hex. Powers-wise,
Luther Manning's Deathlok has a reanimated bodywith cyborg enhancements. This gives him

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increased strength, able to lift 10 tons, andenhanced durability. His mind reacts and
processes information at computer speeds andallows for tracking and targeting multiple
subjects. He carries a helium neon laser pistoland a 9 inch throwing dagger that magnetically
attaches to his calf. As a former US Army colonel,he is a trained hand combatant, marksman, and

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strategist. And that's Deathlok. I wanted to getinto the backstory of both the primary Deathlok
from Earth 74-84 and into the Earth 616 Deathlok,which was Michael Collins. They both have very
different backstories. And actually, theMichael Collins version of the character was
created by Dwayne McDuffie, who also createdcharacters like Static and Icon for Milestone

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Comics. I'm legit surprised that we have not had aDeathlok movie. I mean, just listening to that
backstory, it sounds like a 90s movie. Well, Imean, Robocop ripped it off wholesale. Deathlok
came out in the 70s, Robocop came out in the 80s, butit's essentially the same exact story. Deathlok

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just looks a little bit more zombie cyborg.Henceforth, I will always watch Robocop thinking
of it as a Deathlok movie in the same way that I watchGhost thinking of it as a Deadman movie. The 80s,
man. They were just ripping off comic book storiesall the time. Well, if Robocop is essentially
Deathlok, I do have to say that his movie is betterthan the Jonah Hex movie, but the Jonah Hex comic

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storyline would have made a better one. So let meget into his backstory from the comics. Jonah Hex
was born in 1838 in Missouri to Woodson andVirginia Hex. His childhood was defined by
Woodson's drinking and violent outbursts untilVirginia fled, leaving Jonah behind. At 13, Jonah

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traveled west with Woodson during the Gold Rush.In need of safe passage, Woodson sold Jonah to an
Apache tribe. Jonah lived as a slave until he savedtheir chief from a Puma, at which point he was
adopted as a member of the tribe. He learned Apachemethods of hunting and tracking, and he formed
bonds with the chief's son, Notante, and a youngwoman named White Fawn. At age 16, Jonah and

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Notante undertook a rite of passage to steal Kiowahorses. During the raid, Notante betrayed Jonah,
striking him unconscious and leaving him behindto claim White Fawn for himself. Taken prisoner,
Jonah survived a US cavalry assault on the Kiowa,but was shot in the stomach when he tried to stop the
soldiers from killing children. Left for dead, hewas rescued by an old trapper. When Jonah later

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attempted to return to the Apache, they hadrelocated, forcing him to wander the frontier
alone. As a young man, Jonah enlisted as a cavalryscout for the US Army, then joined the Confederacy
when the Civil War began, believing he wasdefending his homeland. He rose to lieutenant in
the 4th Calvary and fought alongside JebTurnbull. After learning of the Emancipation

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Proclamation, Jonah could no longer justify thecause and deserted to Fort Charlotte to
surrender. He refused to reveal his unit'sposition, but a Union aide identified it from the
clay on Jonah's horse's hooves. The Confederateswere captured, and the Union commander staged a
false escape tunnel so his starving men could killthe fleeing prisoners. Most of Jonah's comrades,

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including Jeb, were slaughtered. Jonahsurvived, killed the commander, and escaped.
Labeled a traitor, Jonah was not allowed to returnto the Confederate lines. He returned to the
Apache instead, seeking acceptance anddiscovered that Notante had married White Fawn.
Jonah accused him of betrayal, and the chiefordered a trial by combat. Notante sabotaged

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Jonah's tomahawk, and Jonah resorted to a knife,violating tribal law. He killed Notante, and it
was branded across the right side of his face, themark of a demon, before being exiled. Years later,
when Jonah returned to the Apache tribe to rescue aWhite captive, he was captured Jonah broke free,

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killed the chief, and gunned down severalwarriors before fleeing permanently. Jonah
wandered the frontier until the day he shot a manbeating his wife in the street. The man was an
outlaw named Lucas Mad Dog McGill, and the deputywho arrived recognized the bounty on his head.
Realizing he could earn a living, killing men likeMcGill, Jonah became a bounty hunter. His first

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major hunt ended with rival manhunter ArbyStoneham taking his query and guns. Years later,
after Jonah had become widely feared, he foundStoneham crippled and chose to leave the past
behind. Jonah spent decades tracking outlaws,foiling land schemes, clashing with corrupt
lawmen, and at times working with the US SecretService, including disrupting an assassination

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attempt on President Grant. He tried to protectpeaceful tribes, but often arrived too late. His
survival of gunfights, while wounded,outnumbered, or temporarily blinded, cemented
his reputation as one of the deadliest men alive.Jonah's path occasionally crossed with larger
forces. He was abducted by the Lord of Time as one ofthe five warriors from forever, and turned

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against the Justice League and Justice Societybefore breaking free and returning to his era. He
later rode with Western legends like Bat-Lash,Cinnamon, and Skellpunter when the league was
thrown into the 19th century, and he fought ShadowDemon during the crisis on Infinite Earth. Jonah
tried repeatedly to abandon violence. He marriedMei Ling, who insisted he quit bounty hunting.

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After a fire destroyed their farm, Jonah secretlyresumed the work to pay debts, and Mei Ling left
him. Their son Jason later sought Jonah out as anadult, but the two failed to reconcile. Jonah
formed an on-and-offigan partnership withTallulah Black, a scarred gunfighter avenging
her murdered family. He also encountered bizarrefrontier threats, including zombies raised by a

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traveling surgeon, the subterranean autumnbrothers, cannibal clans, and corrupt Wild West
show promoters. In 1875, Jonah was abducted in aflash of light by Reinhold Borstyn, and taken to a
post-apocalyptic 21st century Seattle. Heescaped Borstyn's lab, allied briefly with a Road
Reapers biker gang, donned a radiation-proofzone suit, and fought through mutants,

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mercenaries, and alien-backed warlords. Hebecame entangled in Sven Tara's rebellion
against the invading Exiggs. During his time inthe future, Jonah discovered his own taxidermied
corpse in a carnival exhibit, confirming hiseventual return and death in his own era. Though
the means are unknown, Jonah did return to thepast. By the early 20th century, he lived with a

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woman named Talbird. In 1904, George Barrowmurdered Jonah in a saloon, with Sheriff Hank
Crawford shooting Barrow immediately. ShowmanL.B. Farmham stole Jonah's body, stuffed it in
gaudy clothes, and exhibited it until Talbirdreclaimed it. When the collector later attempted
to seize the corpse, he was shot in the back by anunseen figure, implied to be a time-traveling

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Jonah himself. In post-Flashpoint continuity,Jonah's early life remained mostly unchanged.
His Confederate service and the Fort Charlottemassacre again left him wandering the West as a
bounty hunter with a strict moral code. In the1880s, he traveled to Gotham at the request of Dr.
Armadeus Arkham to hunt the Gotham Butcher. Jonahuncovered ties between the murderers and the

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religion of crime, drawing him into conflict withcorrupt officials, industrialists, and secret
societies. He fought through ambushes, machinegun traps, subterranean tunnels, and child labor
rings beneath the city. He encountered theancestors of the Wayne family, remnants of
ancient tribes, and early agents of the Courts ofOwls while dismantling the crime-bible network.

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Jonah resumed life on the trail with TallulahBlack until an encounter with Booster Gold
displaced him in the 21st century. Mistaking foran unstable impersonator, he was committed to
Arkham Asylum until Dr. Jeremiah Arkhamconfirmed his identity. Jonah adapted quickly,
assisting modern heroes against criminals,monsters, and occult threats. He formed a

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relationship with a woman named Gina, and after adrunk driving accident left him comatose,
surgeons repaired his scarred face. Boostereventually returned Jonah to the Old West, with
Gina accompanying him, though she died crossingthe desert. Jonah also learned that an imposter
with a similar scar had committed crimes using hisname. When Jonah killed him, he gave his name as

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George Barrow, in effect, faking his own death.During the rise of the Dark Multiverse, Jonah was
resurrected by a black lantern ring and foughtalongside Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman
against the Batman who laughs. You can learn moreabout in our Batman Who Laughs vs. Cosmic
Ghostwriter episode. When his undead body wasdestroyed, Jonah's spirit was bound to a cursed

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firearm, later inherited by his descendant,Ginny Hex, a member of Young Justice, which you can
learn more about in our Young Justice vs. YoungAvengers team duel. The powers-wise, Jonah Hex
has no superhuman abilities, but is one of the mostlethal marksmen of any era. He is a trained Apache
warrior and hardened bounty hunter, capable ofdrawing and firing with exceptional speed and

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accuracy, even when injured or impaired. He is anexpert tracker, able to follow faint signs across
fast terrain, and he is a master with knives,tomahawks, sabers, and is a brutal hand-to-hand
combatant. That's Jonah Hex. Didn't he havemystical powers in the movie, if I remember
correctly? Yes, in the movie, he had a magic touchthat could bring people back to life until he

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touched them again. That's weird. Yeah,unnecessary, I think. The character makes for a
great Western cowboy without needing asuperpower. He's just a badass, and that's all you
need a cowboy to be. Do you think he has enough goingfor him to go up against Deathlock? He's gone up
against worse, my friend. Yeah, there definitelyseemed like an era where he was taken out of the

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whole Western genre and put more into like apost-apocalyptic pulp genre. Yeah, kind of like
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your allegiance and save while you do it. Anotherwe got there are histories and abilities out of the
way. Let's speculate on how one of the 1000simulated matches will go. The winner is
determined by simulations, not the speculation,but it's fun to imagine how the fight could play
out. AJ9K, what are the rules of our speculation?Well, I should say there are no rules, other than

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the characters have no prior knowledge of theother going into the fight. All they are aware of
starting out is that the other character is athreat that needs to be eliminated. For the
speculation, the contestants will beginapproximately 50 meters apart in a nondescript
environment that will have no bearing on the matchitself, as no environmental statistics are
considered in my simulations. The contestantsmust earn victory on their own merit. All right,

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then let's get into it. Jonah Hex and Deathlockmeet on the battlefield. Who goes first? Don't
answer that, actually. I already know. Jonah isliterally the fastest draw in the West. So as they
square off, staring each other down, Jonah isgoing to snap his gun forward, firing a shot that
hits Deathlock, square between the eyes with hisColt 45 revolver. Blam! Square between

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Deathlock's eyes is actually flesh, because thecyborg part of his face doesn't extend directly in
the middle, it's just on the left side of his face.Good. But Deathlock's computer implant grants
him enhanced reaction time. So no matter how quickof a draw Jonah Hex is, Deathlock still has time to
like somewhat at least turn his head so that thebullet actually hits the left side of his face,

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which is metal. So bullet ricochets and Deathlockis probably knocked to the ground from the impact.
But from the ground, he's going to quickly pull outhis laser pistol and just shoot Jonah Hex through
the chest. Oh, you mean where he wears hisbandolier of ammo? I guess Deathlock's shot also
hits metal. I mean, I guess a laser pistol mighttrigger a round or two to go off, but those bullets

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are just going to graze Jonah's chest and he'sgoing to shrug it off. So while Deathlock is still
on the ground, Jonah is going to quick draw a secondrevolver. And so he's dual wielding. He's going to
fire 10 rounds right into Deathlock, killing himin seconds. No, no, no, Deathlock, he's going to
kick off the ground into a back hand spring whilehis computer scanner is going to be tracking Jonah

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Hex's arm position. And that's going to allowDeathlock to dodge the bullets. And like even the
few that he wouldn't dodge, he'll just shoot out ofthe air with his laser gun because he's that
accurate at targeting. And as he dodges to one sideto avoid like the last of the bullets from the
revolvers with his non shooting hand, Deathlockgrabs and flings his dagger with perfect aim right

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into Jonah Hex's good eye. Good eye. I'm prettysure both eyes are good, but doesn't he have a
fucked up eye? Kind of. He can still shootperfectly with it, so it can't be that bad. It's
just his eyelid that's missing. Oh, so he can'tblink. So he has dry eye. He works with it. He works
with it somehow. I'm going to say lucky for him. Bymy count, Jonah still had one round left in the

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chamber, and he's also accurate enough to shootthe dagger off course. So once he does that without
missing a beat, Jonah is going to charge atDeathlock using speed loaders that he got from the
future to reload his revolver as he runs towardhim, flicking the cylinders into place and
cocking those hammers back. He's going to unloadon Deathlock again. Dude is a fucking one trick

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pony with his pistols. OK, Deathlock, he's goingto power slide to dodge the gunfire and he
magnetically pulls his dagger back to him. Andwhile Deathlock is moving to dodge the gunfire,
you know, using his enhanced reaction time to helphim, maybe he gets tagged once or twice by this new
round of bullets. But that's fine because he cantank a few rounds at least, no problem. And he's so

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reflexive and agile, he can even dodge at closerange. So he closes the distance between himself
and Jonah Hex. And with his dagger, he just slicesoff Jonah Hex's fingers on his right hand. Well,
OK. Well, Jonah's probably very pissed off bythat. So he will pull out a tomahawk with his left

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hand and he's going to chop off Deathlock's armwith it. Deathlock's arm is metal. The only thing
that would happen would be like the tomahawk wouldjust wedge into his shoulder joint. OK, so you
can't use it anymore. Gotcha. He's fine. But whileDeathlock is realizing that that's when Jonah
quickly reaches under his trench coat to grab asawed off twin barreled shotgun that he keeps at

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the small of his back, he's going to fire it pointblank at Deathlock's face. Good luck dodging
that. Deathlock doesn't need to dodge that. He'sgoing to block the shot with his mechanical hand,
which covers the barrels. So the bullets ricochetand Jonah is going to catch some of that ricochet
from his own shotgun shot. And then Deathlockpunches him hard enough to like send him flying

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like 20 yards back. What? And Jonah Hex drops theshotgun, which Deathlock crushes in his hands.
Dang it. OK. I'm going to say Jonah knows he's beat.So he's going to raise his hands and surrender and
slowly walk toward Deathlock, admitting defeat.But just as Jonah gets within range, he's going to

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quickly scrape a match against the stubble on hisjawline and quickly light a small bundle of
dynamite he had hidden in this pocket. And he'sgoing to hurl that thing right at Deathlock before
just turning and running like hell, basically. SoDeathlock's going to blow up. Jonah Hex wins. And
in the aftermath, we'll say Jonah sells Deathlockcybernetic parts for scrap metal as a bounty. No,

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Jonah could try to kill Deathlock with dynamite.But to do that, he would have to throw it with
perfect timing, right? So that it would exploderight as it lands near Deathlock. Yeah. But in
order to do that, he would have to like, you know,hold onto the bundle for at least a second before
throwing it. Therefore, Deathlock uses his laserpistol to shoot the dynamite while Jonah Hex is

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holding onto it and it just explodes in his hands,killing him. Yeah, it was it was a short fuse. OK,
like Jonah didn't need to hold onto it for very longat all. But he couldn't even throw the bundle that
well, because he has buckshot in his gut from thericochet from before. No, no, paint does not
affect Jonah or his aim. Like he's probably hadbuckshot lodged in his body parts for years. He's

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like mostly made out of buckshot. He's like acyborg in himself, like a really shitty cyborg.
We'll go ahead and leave the match there. OK,either Jonah Hex manages to pull off exploding
Deathlock with a bundle of dynamite or thedynamite gets shot while Jonah Hex is holding onto
it and he blows himself up. We'll see which of thosetwo scenarios happens when we input the character

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stats, run the thousand simulations and come backwith a winner. A.J .9K. Hit it. Inputting data,
running calculations, processing results,simulations complete. All right, I will say that
neither of these guys are that impressivestatistically, like especially compared with
other superheroes. Yeah, both of these guys arekind of one trick ponies as well. Yeah, I mean,

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Deathlock has enhanced strength and durability,but otherwise he just has like a little laser gun
and a knife. He should have a better arsenal andactually the Michael Collins version of
Deathlock did. They were mostly tit for tat when itcame to the stats. We gave Jonah Hex the edge when it
came to damage level because I've seen him usedynamite before, essentially. But Deathlock

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came out ahead and a lot of the physical stats, likeyou mentioned, as well as perception. Yeah, but
there are even when it came to like range andactually fighting, which surprised me, Jonah Hex
is actually a better fighter than I guess I wouldhave thought he was, given his backstory. I guess
that makes sense. They had similar intellect andebasin miss as well. Considering all of this,

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Jonathan, who's winning this match, who's yourmoney on and how much money? If I was a betting man, I
would put 100 large on the table. 100 large. Is thatlike a hundred thousand dollars or is that just a
hundred dollars? No, no, I just mean a hundreddollars. Even though the odds are against me,
according to our Instagram poll, 59 percent of thevoters in that poll bet it in favor of Deathlock,

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essentially. Smart people. They look at a cowboyand then they look at a zombie cyborg and they're
like, yeah, I'm going with the zombie cyborg onthat one. And they know that the Jonah Hex movie
sucks. So they know what they're doing. But let'sget the actual results. AG9K, the results,
please. Here you are, sir. All right, the winnerbetween Jonah Hex and Joe Hex. Jonah Hex and

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Deathlock is Deathlock. Gosh dang it. Thedemolisher he won out of a thousand matches, 658
percent of the time, whereas Jonah Hex only won34.2 percent of the time. In the end, it was
Deathlock's enhanced strength and durabilitythat won him out. Jonah Hex just couldn't compete

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with that. So I was afraid Deathlock was going towin. If he did, I did not think it was going to be by
that much. He's essentially winning two thirds ofthe time, which sucks because like what does
Deathlock have going for him? He has a gun and aknife. Jonah Hex has that and more. He has a cyborg
body is what it comes down to. That's overrated. Iguess this means that Jonah Hex couldn't beat

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Robocop either. Shoot him in the mouth. It's notthat hard. My apologies to all of the Jonah Hex fans
out there. This sucks. There are literally dozenof you. Now, there's more than that. Great job,
Marvel fans. Like I said, in an earlier episodethis month, we are going to take the month of

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November. We're coming back. We're going to closethis gap. I scoffed at the idea at the time, but I am
concerned now as you should be, as you should be.That does it for this duel, guys. AJ9K help close us
out. Thanks for listening to Dynamic Joule. Visitthe show's website at dynamicjoule.com and
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next episode is going to be another duel in which wefind out who doing in a fight between Vandal

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Savage, the immortal DC villain versus SebastianShah, the not quite immortal, but long living and
energy absorbing X-Men villain. Look forward tothat next week. But that does it for this episode.
We want to give a big thanks to our executiveproducers, John Sterosky, Zachary Hepburn,
Dustin Belcombe, Nathaniel Wagner, Levi Yatan,Austin Wazalowski, AJ Dunkerly, Nick Obonto,

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Scott Camacho, Gil Camacho, Adam Spees, DeanMolesky, Devin Davis, Joseph Kirsting and Paul
Graves for helping make this podcast possible.We'll talk to you guys next week up up and away. True
believers. The amalgam version of these twocharacters would be a cowboy zombie cyborg called
Death Hex.