Static vs Jubilee

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• 0:00:00 - Introduction 
• 0:04:12 - No-Prize Time 
• 0:09:23 - Fantastic Four: First Steps Final Trailer 
• 0:14:43 - Question of the Week 
• 0:15:35 - Static vs Jubilee intro 
• 0:18:56 - Static history and powers 
• 0:27:53 - Jubilee history and powers 
• 0:37:14 - Fight speculation 
• 0:45:07 - Duel results 
• 0:47:27 - Sign off 
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Episode Transcript

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This is a DynaMic Network Podcast. Hi and welcometo the Dynamic Dual Podcast, a weekly show where we

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review superhero films and debate thesuperiority between Marvel and DC by comparing
their characters in stat-based battlesimulations. I'm Marvelous Joe and I'm his twin
brother Johnny DC. And in this episode we're goingto find out who'd win in a fight between Jubilee of
the X-Men and Static of the Milestone ComicImprint from DC. Right, both of these characters

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had hit shows in the late 90s and early 2000s. Theyboth wear jackets, they both sport eye gear, they
both shoot sparkly things from their fingers.Well, I mean Static does a lot more than that, which
is probably why he's going to win. Now Jubileeshoots fireworks, okay? And no little sparkly
little lightning things are going to compete withthe power of fireworks as everyone should know

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this 4th of July season. Like you go outside duringthe 4th of July and you hear all those explosions?
Yeah, it's because they're fucking explosions,they're loud, they rattle your windows, it's
really annoying. If you're a grown ass adult likeme, your dog probably gets pissed off. But yeah,
it's potent stuff. Oh yeah, it's almost like, youknow, when lightning strikes and there's
thunder? No, that doesn't happen. Okay, well thisis going to be an interesting matchup I think.

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We'll find out who's going to win later on in thisepisode. But before that we're going to break down
the latest comic book movie news to come out thispast week, of which we just have one news item and
that is the Fantastic Four First Steps FinalTrailer. As always we list our segment times in our
episode description so feel free to check out theshow notes if you want to skip ahead to a particular
topic. Guys, our artificially intelligent dualsimulator AJ9K has a quick message for our

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listeners, so listen up. The X-Force tier makesyou an executive producer of this show. Lastly,

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the Dynamite podcast network tier lets you createyour own podcast using this Monte Carlo
simulator. Johnny and Joe will help you developyour show, provide graphic support and
consultation, and get you simulation results.Pitch the twins your ideas via email at
dynamicdualpodcastatgmail.com. Check it out atpatreon.com slash dynamicdual. Pip pip cheerio.

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Thanks AJ9K and thanks to everyone who supportsthe podcast. Be sure to tune in to the other shows in
the Dynamite podcast network this week,including the console combat podcast where hosts
John and Dean simulate battles between popularvideo game characters. In yesterday's episode
they determined who would win between Sora fromKingdom Hearts and Shulk from Xenoblade

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Chronicles. Over on the Max Destruction podcasthosts Scotty and Gilly pit your favorite action
heroes from film and television against eachother. This week the brothers are pitting John
Wick against the equalizer. Over on the SinjoWorld podcast hosts Zachary Hepburn speculates
on fights between fan favorite anime and mangacharacters. In his next episode, Zach is going to
reveal who would win between Aoi Toto of JujutsuKaizen and Ryo Shimizaki of Mob Psycho 100. Visit

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dynamicpodcast.com or click the link in our shownotes to listen to all the shows in the Dynamite
podcast network. But with that out of the way,quick to the no prize. A no prize is an award that
Marvel used to give out to fans. Our version, thedynamic duel no prize, is a digital award that we
post on Instagram for the person that we feel gavethe best answer to our question of the week. Last

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week we asked you guys, besides the Punisher andobviously Daredevil, which of the former Marvel
Netflix characters would you most want to see inthe next Spider-Man film? And this is coming off
the news that it has been confirmed that thePunisher is going to be in the next Spider-Man
brand new day movie. We got five answers total, solet's go down our three honorable mentions and the
no prize winner. Our first honorable mention goesto Alex Albro, who said, I think Nuke should be the

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one from the Netflix universe to be in theSpider-Man movie. He's a really grounded
character who could be an Act One villain, or hecould be on the Punisher side and they're going
crazy throughout New York, and then either thePunisher kind of sees the evil of his ways and stops
Nuke, or Spider-Man stops them before they all gocrazy, or maybe Spider-Man just gets a symbiote
and everybody's crazy in a really allegedlygrounded movie. Thanks. Yeah, I thought this was a

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pretty good answer because Nuke was in the firsttwo seasons of Jessica Jones. I guess the one issue
with this answer is that Nuke died in JessicaJones, but he was played by Will Travel and I
thought he was actually really good in the role.Kind of a bizarro take on Captain America in a
different way that John Walker was. For those whomay not know who Nuke is, he's like a super soldier,

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but he takes these pills to get his physicalenhancements. He played a big part of the born
again Daredevil comic book storyline, but I cansee how elements of that could be incorporated
into the Spider-Man movie. Yeah, great answer,Alex. Our next honorable mention goes to Lorenzo
Valdez. Who said? This is Lorenzo Valdez callingin once again. The Netflix character that I think

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is perhaps most likely to appear in Spider-ManBrand New Day would be Karen, given that we already
know that the Punisher is now going to be in themovie. But I also will say that I think we would
really be missing out if we never got to see aconfrontation between Kingpin and Spider-Man in
the MCU. Clona forever and always, buh-bye. Yeah,Karen Page has been a big part of the storylines for

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both Daredevil and Punisher. So if Punisher ismaking an appearance in the Spider-Man movie, it
would not surprise me if Karen was also there.Yeah, she's kind of the supporting character that
bridges a lot of the gaps between the Daredevil andPunisher series. And I think she's Frank
Strongest supporting, consistent supportingcharacter throughout all of his appearances. So

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great answer, Lorenzo. Our next honorablemention goes to Cyrus Moore. Who said? Hey guys,
Cyrus Moore. So what I really want to see is I don'twant to see the Punisher Daredevil in this new
Spider-Man movie. I want to see Iron Fist becausewith Iron Fist, we could bring over Luke Cage in the
same movie, maybe introduce Nova, recast FlashThompson that way we can get an agent Venom, have

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White Tiger that way we can have an ultimateSpider-Man movie, and introduce a bunch of
characters and have an amazing team up. And thatwould just be awesome. Yeah, this is kind of going
along the lines of why we asked this question of theweek to begin with, because incorporating the
Punisher into the Spider-Man series kind of makesit seem like the story is going to take a more

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grounded street level approach, and that would bea good opportunity to bring in other defenders
characters from the Netflix series. And yeah, Ithink Iron Fist is a strong candidate, especially
if they give the guy some good fight choreographythis time, and he follows through with it, I think
Danny Rand would be a good addition, and then alsobring in Luke Cage and other characters like Agent

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Venom. Although Cyrus mentioned recasting FlashThompson for the role of Agent Venom, and I think
Tony Revelore could pull it off. Yeah, he's kind ofon the smaller end, but that doesn't really bother
me because he's a good actor. Tom Hardy himself is alittle bit on the smaller end, you know? He's only
like three inches taller than Tony Revelore, so.Oh, I did not know that. Well, great answer, Cyrus.

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We want to give a quick shout out to Sheldon Moorefor taking the time to visit our website and record
an answer. But the winner of this week's No Prize isLee Tapscott, who said, Which character from the
Netflix Marvel series I would like to see inSpider-Man movie? The character of Kingpin. I

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mean, he was originally a Spider-Man enemy, andwith him being like the mayor of New York right now,
he could be going after Spider-Man for, you know,being an unregistered superhero or whatever he's
after. Yeah, I guess this all really depends on howDaredevil born again season two kind of shapes up

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with Daredevil's battle going up against MayorKingpin. But yeah, I think it would be fantastic to
have Vincent D'Narvio as the Kingpin be theprimary antagonist for the Spider-Man brand new
day film, especially if you have like the Punisherand maybe even Daredevil show up and they all team
up to go up against him. Oh yeah, totally. When weasked this question, I really wasn't looking for

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the Defenders characters. I was looking forKingpin. And since Lee Tapscott gave only that
answer and no one else, that's why he gets thisweek's No Prize win. Yeah, I think it would just
feel right considering he's right in that theKingpin was originally a Spider-Man villain
before he was a Daredevil villain. And you know,with the Punisher making his first appearance in

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the Spider-Man comic books too, everything justseems to dovetail nicely in regards to a
Spider-Man street level crime story. So greatanswer, Lee. You win this week's No Prize. If you,
the listener, want a shot at winning your own NoPrize, stay tuned to later on in this episode when
we'll be asking another question of the week.Another That's Done. On to the news! Alright, this

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past week we got the final trailer for theFantastic Four First Steps film, which comes out
in just a few weeks here on July 25th. It's our finalgood look at the movie before it comes out, and I
gotta say it's the best trailer that's come outyet. I think it has a lot of scenes and moments that I
think will get a lot of people excited, what theywere probably looking for in the trailer since the

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beginning. Because we get a good introduction andgood look at the heroes and the costumes. We get to
see a lot of action of them going up againstGalactus. We get to see everybody's powers
including Reed stretching and Sue creatingcurrent visible force fields. The thing smashing
through stuff and the human torch flying, theFantastic Car flying. I'm not surprised that they

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waited until the final trailer to really showcasethe special effects considering the film is very
CG heavy. I gotta say the special effects lookamazing in this film. I love the feel and visual
tone of the movie. Galactus looks like he's gonnabe freaking awesome. The more I see this
character, because in the previous trailer wejust got a shot of his legs as he was walking through

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the city. And in the trailer before that we just gota shot of his shadow looking over Manhattan. But
here, while we don't get to see his face, we get tosee pretty much the rest of his body. And I think
it's gonna look incredible on the big screen withall the intricate details that they actually have
on his suit. The scale of him is gonna be pretty aweinspiring when we finally get to see him. We got
another look at Shalabal's Silver Surfer playedby Julia Garner who has a little bit more dialogue

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in this trailer as she heralds the coming ofGalactus. I thought her voice treatment was
pretty good. Again, still not thrilled about thisnot being Gnor and Rad, but we've talked about that
on this podcast before. Actually didn't love herdelivery. Now Julia Garner is a good actress, so I
was kind of surprised. It sounded like to me she wasasking questions. I herald your end maybe? That

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wasn't a question mark, it was a comma. The wholething was question marks. She's an alien, maybe
that's their style of diction. You don't know. Doyou speak alien? Are you from another planet?
Sounds like fucking English to me. It's English,but it's alien English, okay? Okay. It's totally
fine. It looks like at some point in the movie theFantastic Four fly up to Galactus' spaceship,

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which I think is gonna be a cool scene. And that'swhere they, like, I don't know, they almost die in
the process coming back down to Earth. There's areally nice acting moment with Petro Pascal when
reporters ask him if everything's gonna be okayand he gives the honest answer of I don't know,
which is a big deal for Reed Richards consideringhe's regarded as the smartest man in the world and
he should have the answers. We get a few shots ofbaby Franklin Richards and his appearance makes

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me think that maybe he's gonna be used as a McGuffinof sorts. I hope they don't do some kind of deus ex
machina where the baby ends up saving the daybecause he's, you know, he's an all powerful
reality warper in the comic books. Yeah, it wasinteresting to see him as a baby. I don't think I've
ever really seen him as an infant in the comics.Usually he's a little boy, right? Right. So I
thought it was interesting that in the previoustrailer we have Sue and Reed finding out that

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they're pregnant. But then in this trailer, like,the baby is already here. So it makes me wonder
about, like, how long of a timeframe this filmtakes place in. Yeah, definitely over the course
of a year, right? Considering the kid looks about,like, eight to ten months old within these shots.
Maybe the Silver Surfer comes and warnseverybody, tells them they have, like, a year

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before Galactus comes or something like that. Whoknows. Interesting. There's a running gag
throughout the trailer where people are trying toget Ben Grimm the thing to say it's clobbering
time, which is his catchphrase in the in-universecartoon that they have about the Fantastic Four.
And it's pretty funny. Johnny tries multipletimes to try to get him to say it, including an
interesting scene where he's, like, carrying thething while flying. But the thing has a beard. He

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has a full-on mustache and beard combo made out ofrock that I've never seen anything like that
before in the comic books. I've seen the Hulk with abeard, but I don't think I've ever seen the thing
with a beard. I didn't even think that he could growa beard. And I feel like it raises all sorts of
questions regarding Ben Grimm's body hair. Like,does he have pubes? Or armpit hair? Like, does it

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crystallize out of his armpits? And he has to,like, shave all this stuff? It's really bizarre. I
don't like it. I don't like things with a beard. Ihope he loses it. I hope he doesn't have it for, you
know, the climax of the film. And it's like, whydoesn't he have hair on top of his head? Yeah,
that's a great question. Great question. Does henot shave his eyebrows? And so, like, is that why
they're so bulky and big? Oh, that's interesting.Are the beetle brows hair, rock hair? Wow. I think

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it's just a kind of an uncomfortable subject. And Idon't want to think about Ben Grimm's pubes. So I'd
rather just stop discussing it. Yeah, and he'slike ass hair. I don't want to think about that. All
in all, I was really pleased by this trailer and I amreally hoping that it provides the level of
excitement that the film needs in order to do wellat the box office. Again, it's only coming out two

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weeks after the Superman film. HopefullyFantastic Four just bites a huge chunk out of the
Superman final box office. That way I can gloat infront of Jonathan. But speaking of the DC Marvel
summer blockwesters that come out in July, thatbrings us to our question of the week. What movie do

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you think will be making more at the worldwide boxoffice? Superman or the Fantastic Four first
steps and why? And this includes the entireduration of their theatrical runs worldwide. By
the end, what's your best guess as to who's comingout on top and will ultimately be the more popular
film? Yes, and why is it Superman? Record youranswer at dynamicduel.com by clicking on the red

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microphone button in the bottom right hand cornerof the screen, which will prompt you to leave us a
voicemail. Your message could be up to 30 secondslong and don't forget to leave your name in case we
include you on the podcast. We'll pick ourfavorite answer and award that person a Dynamic
Duel No Prize that we'll post to Instagram. Be sureto answer before July 5th. But that does it for all

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the news for this episode, so let's go ahead andmove into our main event where we find out who would
win in a fight between the teen heroes of Static andJubilee. Static vs Jubilee Static vs Jubilee,

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this particular matchup was an idea by theexecutive producers. We've been trying to get
Static in a duel matchup forever, basically,since the start of this podcast. So I'm surprised
that we're just getting to him now because wereally enjoyed his cartoon Static Shock on the WB
as kids. And we also loved the 90s X-Men cartoon ofwhich Jubilee played a major role, especially

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within, you know, that first season. Right,exactly. We have these two young teen heroes who
are encountering new worlds filled withsuperpowers for the first time from their
respective cartoons that were popular when wewere kids. We watched the heck out of those shows,
but we're really doing this episode now in lead upto the 4th of July holiday since Jubilee has

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fireworks powers, essentially. We thought thiswould be a fun episode to do. Yeah, so when you go out
there and see all of the fireworks displays thisholiday, you can just think about, dang, like
Jubilee really shoots those out of herfingertips. She really did fuck Static up that
episode. Yeah, or maybe during your 4th of Julyweekend there happens to be a thunderstorm and
you're seeing all of the crazy lightning andthunder and you're like, whoa, that's way more

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scary than fireworks. I'm so glad Static wonbecause he should have. We will see what happens.
But to explain the methodology behind our duels,let's go to our sentient duel simulator Alfred
Jarvis-9000. AJ9K tell our listeners how you goabout determining a winner in our duel matchups.
Yes, of course, sir. The way I determine a winnerbetween the contestants is by running 1000 Monte

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Carlo simulations using the charactersstatistics. A Monte Carlo simulation is a
probabilistic model used to determine outcomesthrough random sampling. In this case, I
randomize the statistics along a normaldistribution as a way to simulate the many
variables that can occur during battle. The statparameters are based on the official Marvel power
grid from which the DC characters statistics areextrapolated. Additional stat categories are

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included such as range, damage potential,versatility and perception in order to create a
more detailed and accurate simulation. Theresults of the 1000 simulations provide a
percentage of wins for each character. Thecontestant with the higher percentage is
declared the victor as they have a higherprobability to win any given battle. In an
equitable pairing, neither character should win100% of the matches. The comic book stories have

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shown that there's even a way for Batman to defeatSuperman, so the confidence rate of my method
falls in line with the precedents that have beenestablished in the source material. My
mathematical simulations are withoutsubjectivity or bias. Feats are not the sole
consideration, nor are fan votes tabulated fordetermination of the winner. Thanks, AJ9K.
Before we run the simulations though, we like tobreak down each character's histories and

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abilities before improvising a scenario on how weimagine one of the 1000 simulations would play out
beat for beat. And it is my turn to go first with theDC characters backstory, so let me tell you all
about static. Now within the Dakotaverse, alsoknown as Earth M, Virgil Ovid Hawkins grew up in

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Dakota City, a fictional Midwestern city plaguedby crime, poverty and social tension. Virgil was a
bright, science-loving teenager who adoredcomic books, video games, and all things pop
culture. His intelligence and interests oftenmade him a target for bullies at Ernest Hemingway
High School, especially Martin Bizmoney BSkoponi. Despite the harassment, Virgil

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maintained strong friendships with classmateslike Frida Gorin and Larry Wade. Quietly, he
harbored feelings for Frida, not realizing shewas dating Larry. One night, after enduring yet
another beating at the hands of Martin and hisfriends, Virgil reached his breaking point.
Pressured by Larry, he went to Paris Island with agun, intent on confronting his tormentor. In the

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end, he could not bring himself to commit an act ofviolence, and he tossed the weapon into a river,
choosing to walk away instead. At that moment,however, the police arrived to break up a massive
gang brawl nearby, which would later be known asthe Big Bang. The police unleashed experimental
tear gas infused with a mutagenic agent known asquantum juice. The gas was originally designed as

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a radioactive tracing agent to track criminals,but instead caused horrifying mutations,
transferring many who survived intosuperpowered beings known as Bang Babies. Virgil
survived the event and discovered he haddeveloped electromagnetic powers. Inspired by
his love of superheroes and driven by a sense ofjustice, he crafted a homemade costume and

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adopted the name Static, determined to protecthis city. As Static, Virgil quickly realized that
being a hero was far more challenging than he hadever imagined. His first major battle was against
Hotstrike, the pyrokinetic form of his formerbully, Martin Scarponi. Initially overpowered,
Static rallied to defend Frida, who discoveredhis identity and became his closest confidant.

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She supported his mission, but also reminded himof the importance of balance, as his dual life
strained his friendships, academics, and familyresponsibilities. Virgil struggled to keep jobs
and saw his great slip, discovering that heroismdemanded countless personal sacrifices. Over
time, his enemies grew more dangerous. Staticfought criminals like Commando X, who sought to

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divide the city through fearing chaos andholocaust, a ruthless energy-wielding villain
and former member of the Blood Syndicate, whichwas a powerful gang of metihumans trying to impose
their own control on Dakota City. He facedunpredictable metihumans like Tarmac, Rubber
Bandman, and Puff, and even reality-bendingthreats such as Riff. Despite these challenges,

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Virgil continued to push forward, using hisintelligence and scientific mind to outwit foes
as much as overpowered them. His analyticalnature allowed him to develop creative tactics,
including using electromagnetic fields todeflect bullets and mobilize enemies and hack
into communication systems. He built his iconicflying disc, known as the Static Saucer, which

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allowed him to soar through the city and pursuecriminals with speed and precision. Virgil's
personal life, however, became increasinglycomplicated. His brief romance with the
mysterious metihuman Dusk offered him hope andescape, but it ended in tragedy when she
sacrificed herself to save civilians from a fire.This loss, combined with the death of his close

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friend Larry during a failed drug operation,pushed Virgil to the brink of giving up his heroic
identity altogether. Grieving and questioningwhether his actions truly made a difference, he
stepped away from the mantle of Static to try andreclaim a normal life. Dakota, however, could not
be left unprotected. When bank babies beganmysteriously disappearing, Virgil discovered

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the culprit was John Tower, a once heroic figureturned power-hungry villain. Timmy Gupp with
other heroes, Virgil led a mission to confrontTower, free the captives, and restore hope to his
city. Through this ordeal, he reaffirmed hiscommitment to heroism, but vowed to approach it
with more balance, choosing to protect Dakota onhis own terms rather than being consumed by guilt

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or duty. Following the merging of the Dakotaverseand the main DC universe, Static joined the Teen
Titans. Initially haunted by trauma from his timeas a captive fighter in the Dark Side Club's
underground tournaments, he struggled to fit in.However, he eventually found camaraderie and
purpose with his new teammates forming bonds withAcogirl, Blue Beetle, and Wondergirl. His

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brilliance as a scientist and inventor shonethrough when he designed a special stabilizing
suit for Kid Flash, saving him from a potentiallyfatal molecular breakdown. You, of course, can
learn more about the Teen Titans in our Titans vsX-Men dual episode. His time with the Titans
provided Virgil with something he had longcraved, a surrogate family who understood his
struggles and stood by him. He proved himself asboth a capable fighter and a supportive friend

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earning the respect and affection of the team.Eventually, Virgil returned to Dakota after
hearing that a deadly virus was sweeping throughthe city, infecting many residents including his
sister Sharon. Investigating its origin, heconfronted Holocaust, who had orchestrated the
plague as part of a power scheme. In the ensuingconflict, Static was captured and imprisoned in a

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containment unit designed to neutralize hisabilities. Ultimately, the Teen Titans arrived
to rescue him and together they defeatedHolocaust. After reuniting with his family in
Frida, Virgil decided to return to San Franciscowith the Titans, telling his parents he had been
accepted into a quantum physics fellowship toprotect his secret life. Although his ties to home

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remained strained, he carried with him a renewedsense of resolve and community. In the
post-Flashpoint timeline, Virgil and his familymoved to New York City following a traumatic event
that left his sister Sharon split into twoidentical versions of herself. Virgil began
working as an intern at Star Labs under theguidance of Hardware, a brilliant technological

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hero. There he received advanced equipment,including a new high-tech suit and an upgraded
versatile flying disc. In New York, Virgil facednew adversaries, including the powerful
sunspots and viral, a living virus entity.Despite these challenges, he continued to
support his fellow heroes, even helping Red Robinredesign his cape and glider apparatus,

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showcasing his technical genius. When the Dakotaverse was later rebooted, Virgil's origin was
revised so that he gained his powers during aviolent clash at a Black Lives Matter protest,
confronting Cotstreek shortly after. Once hestepped into the hero role, he exposed government
corruption and rescued kidnapped bang babies,solidifying his reputation as Dakota's

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guardian. And that's Static's backstory.Power-wise, Static can generate, absorb, and
manipulate electromagnetic energy, enablinghim to produce powerful electrical attacks,
magnetize objects, and create static clingfields to immobilize opponents or anchor
objects. You can generate electromagnetic forcefields, which act as protective barriers against

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projectiles and energy blasts. Using magneticlevitation, he flies on a metal disc, the Static
saucer, which also doubles as a weapon and shieldin combat. His scientific intellect rivals some
of the DC Universe's greatest minds, allowing himto build custom gear and analyze complex threats.
His powers, however, are ineffective againstinsulators such as wood and rubber, and that

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remains among his few physical limitations. Ididn't know that the Milestone Universe got
rebooted. Yeah, it did. I think around the rebirthera, they took a new crack at the Dakota verse. That
was pretty interesting how they decided tocontemporize it by making it part of tear gas used
during a protest or something like that. That'sdefinitely a more interesting way to modernize

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origin from the original gang violence kind ofangle that they went with during the character's
conception. Yeah, I think the creators ofMilestone Comics always want their characters to
remain relevant in a modern day setting andcontext. So what they did, I thought, was an
interesting approach. For sure. Yeah. Also, Iforgot that Esthetic is pretty smart, too. He's

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like a smart kid, inventor kid. Yeah, reallysmart. That may come to hurt Jubilee because she's
notoriously not good at math. She has somethingcalled discalculia, I think, which is not like a
measure of intelligence or anything like that,but it just means that she has difficulty
processing numbers in her head, kind of similar tolike how a dyslexic has trouble reading.

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Interesting. OK. But who cares? Because math'snot going to probably show up in this speculation
at all. Let me go ahead and tell you more aboutJubilee. Jubilee Lee was born in Beverly Hills,
California, to two Chinese American doctors whohad built a comfortable life after immigrating
from Hong Kong. She loved arcade games andexcelled at gymnastics with coaches whispering

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about the Olympics. Her world ended, however,when hired gunmen murdered her parents outside
their home. Orphaned at 13, Jubilee ran fromfoster care and turned the giant Hollywood mall
into a secret hideout. She stole food and earnedspare change by shooting bright, sparkling
fireworks from her hands, her newly awakenedmutant power. Mall managers hired the M Squad, a

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group of paid to capture mutants. During a chasethrough the food court, Jubilee's panic set off a
blinding blast. At the same moment for X-Men,Storm, Rogue, Silak and Dazzler happened to be
shopping. They drove the hunters off and Jubileesaw that they were heroes. Their ally, Gateway, a
silent teleporter, opened a portal for the team.Before it closed, Jubilee secretly slipped

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through and found herself at the X-Men'stemporary base in the Australian desert. You can
learn more about the X-Men and their duel againstthe Titans. Unsure the famous mutants would trust
a runaway. She hid in tunnels for weeks, sewingtogether a bright yellow jacket from Dazzler's
spare clothes. Trouble hit when the Reavers,brutal cyborg outlaws, stormed the base and

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nailed Wolverine to a metal X. Jubilee refused toleave him. She freed him and stayed by his side,
scavenging water and supplies while his healingfactor did the rest, a rescue that forged the
father and daughter bond that would shape herlife. The Reavers kept hunting so the pair fled to
Madropore, a crime-ridden island in SoutheastAsia. There they battled the Mandarin, who ruled

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local gangs with help from the hand, a deadly ninjaclan. Jubilee's fireworks blew a hole in the
Mandarin's fortress and helped free Sylocke frombrainwashing. You can learn more about Wolverine
in his duel against Hawkman and more about Sylockein her duel against Gorilla Grodd. News of mutant
slavery pulled the trio to Genosha, an islandnation that forced mutants into hard labor.

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Jubilee guided depowered mutants boom-boom andrictured through patrols until other X-teams
toppled the government. Professor CharlesXavier, impressed by her courage, invited her to a
school in West Chester, New York. JoiningCyclops, Beast and Rogue on the X-Men Blue team,
Jubilee helped them fight villains such asSauron, the Sentinels, and the Brood. She even
escaped Mojo, a tyrant from another dimension whoshowed her an enslaved future version of herself

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named Epsissa, a future she swore to avoid. A timeportal later let Jubilee witness the night her
parents died. Armed with the killer's faces, shetracked them but chose jail over revenge after
Wolverine's advice. Her grief continued thoughwhen her young friend Magic died of the legacy
virus, Magneto ripped metal from Wolverine'sbones, and Sabertooth broke free inside the

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mansion. Shaking off the terror, Jubilee fired aneutralizer gun and knocked Sabertooth out when
the mansion's defenses failed. You can learn moreabout Sabertooth in his duel against Killer Croc.
Not long after, Techno Organic Aliens called thePhalanx captured many senior X-Men. Jubilee
teamed with Banshee, Emma Frost, and evenSabertooth to rescue the captives and several

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young mutants. Realizing she needed peers her ownage, she moved to the Massachusetts Academy to
help form a new school and team called Generation Xunder the teachers Banshee and Emma Frost. Her
classmates were Husk, Sink, Monet, Chamber, andSkin, and their school days mixed Algebra with
combat drills. They fought foes such asJuggernaut, Omega Red, and Implate, her

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classmate Monet's vampiric brother. During thenationwide Operation Zero Tolerance
Initiative, government agents kidnappedJubilee to steal X-Men's secrets. She blasted the
guards while escaping, stopped to give one guardCPR, was recaptured, and then was freed by a
sympathetic aide. Wolverine brought her home,but soon after, hacked security codes to let the

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enemy raid the X-Mansion. Soon after, she learnedthat a businessman named Hunter Braun had
arranged for her parents' death. Jubilee and herfriends tracked him down and she destroyed his
warehouse before police arrested him, finallygiving her closure. Generation X broke apart
after teammate Sink died diffusing a bomb and theschool closed. Jubilee and Skin tried acting in

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Los Angeles, but found only stereotypical roles.Her former teacher Banshee then formed X-Cor, a
mutant police force unit which Jubilee, Husk, andMonet joined. They stopped riots in Paris,
blinded the giant blob, and stopped a plot bymystique before the group fell apart. Hate
preachers called the Church of Humanity soonkidnapped Jubilee, Skin, and others and

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crucified them on the X-Men lawn. Angel's healingblood saved her, but Skin died, deepening her
grief. She moved in with her long-glossed witchaunt named Hope in Los Angeles, only to learn that
Hope was a secret assassin. A clash with her formerboss leveled the house and Jubilee returned to the
X-Men. Later, the Scarlet Witch warped reality inan act that erased most of mutant kinds powers,

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including Jubilee's. She opened a halfway housein Queens for depowered mutants, but was badly
hurt when Omega Red attacked it. After healing,she joined Night Thrasher's tech-based new
warriors. Wearing anti-gravity gauntlets, shetook the name Wundra and helped train her fellow
teammates. Trust broke, though, when NightThrasher hid a risky time machine plan. After

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casualties and chaos, the new warriorsdisbanded. You can learn more about that team in
their duel against Infinity Inc. While leadingfriends in San Francisco, Jubilee was turned into
a vampire by Zaris, the son of Dracula, whom you canlearn more about in his duel against Andrew
Bennett. Wolverine rescued her and the X-Mentoppled Zaris, but Jubilee remained undead. She

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relied on Wolverine's blood and a mystic pendantto endure weak sunlight. She trained with a group
of Daywalker vampires who taught her how tocontrol her vampiric impulses. Teaming with
Wolverine's clone, a former brainwashed killercalled X-23, helped both women manage their
darker urges. You can learn more about X-23 in herduel against Cassandra Cain Bagrell. On a later

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trip to Budapest, Jubilee found an abandoned babyboy. She named him Shogo and took him to the rebuilt
Jean Grey School for higher learning. Stormhelped Jubilee complete the adoption process.
Headmistress Kitty Pryde, seeing Jubilee'sgrowth, asked her to mentor a class of misfit
students, Quentin Choir, Bling, Eyeboy, NatureGirl, Morph, and Tynesite. Her old friend

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Chambered co-taught alongside her and theirfriendship became romance. Trouble struck when
Monet, merged with her vampire brother and plate,invaded the school and stole Jubilee's sunlight
pendant. Quentin sacrificed a shard that he had ofthe powerful Phoenix Force to save his teacher,
curing Jubilee's vampirism and restoring hermutant abilities. Professor Xavier then

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announced Cracoa, a living island where mutantscould live free. Jubilee and Shogo moved there and
joined Betsy Braddock, Rogue, Gambit, Richter,and even Apocalypse on a new team called
Excalibur. While exploring other worlds, a magicrealm linked by a portal, fairy energy
temporarily turned Shogo into a dragon. When hewas hurt by enemy soldiers, Jubilee's fireworks

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scattered the attackers and she calmed her son ashe healed. You can learn more about other worlds
and the Excalibur team in our Uncle Sam vs. CaptainBritain dual episode. The mutants of Cracoa later
held their first Hellfire Gala, a grand partymeant to show mutant progress. The anti-mutant
group Orcus and the war robot Nimrod attacked themand Jubilee was killed in the fight. However,

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within days she was restored to life on Cracoa via acombination of other mutants' powers. And that's
Jubilee's history. Powers-wise, Jubilee is amutant with the ability to produce explosive
light blasts in the form of multi-colored energyplasmoids that she refers to and highly resemble
fireworks. She can control their intensity interms of brightness and explosive potential,

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meaning she can generate the energy bright enoughto blind opponents, which is why she wears big
sunglasses, or powerful enough to blast your faceoff at close proximity, just like a firework. And
that's a reminder to be safe out there this year,kids. Taken to her utmost limit, Jubilee can
manifest a light blast so powerful that it turnsher whole body sparkly and can obliterate a

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starship. In addition, for some reason, she hasnatural psionic shields that make her slippery to
telepathic detection, possibly developed as asafeguard from her powers manifesting as a
runaway, but I'm not sure what that has to do withenergy plasmoids. Maybe she has like little
plasmoids running around her brain, distortingthe electrical fields that make her difficult to
detect. But yeah, telepaths have trouble findingher. Finally, Jubilee is an Olympic-level

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gymnast and is an adept hand combatant, havingundergone some fight training with Wolverine.
That's really interesting because Staticactually has telepathic resistance as well, and I
have no idea why. I didn't list it in his power setbecause I didn't really think it would factor into
this match, but it's weird that both charactershave that. Yeah, I wasn't even going to mention the

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telepathic resistance thing, but she does havelike a number of feats regarding those psionic
shields. Weird. It's something that I actuallylearned about the character during the process of
my research for this bio. Well, not that itmatters. Yeah, there's not going to be any
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Now that we've got their histories and abilitiesout of the way, let's speculate on how one of the
1000 simulated matches will go. The winner isdetermined by simulations, not the speculation,
but it's fun to imagine how this fight could playout. AJ9K, what are the rules of our speculation?
Well, I should say there are no rules, other thanthe characters have no prior knowledge of the
other going into the fight. All they are aware ofstarting out is that the other character is a

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threat that needs to be eliminated. For thespeculation, the contestants will begin
approximately 50 meters apart in a nondescriptenvironment that will have no bearing on the match
itself, as no environmental statistics areconsidered in my simulations. The contestants
must earn victory on their own merit. Alrightthen, let's get into it. Static and Jubilee meet on

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the battlefield, who goes first. I'm gonna saythat Static goes first and he'll start off by
hopping onto his saucer and zipping right overJubilee, blasting her with electric bolts as he
flies circles around her. Okay, but Jubilee,she's gonna dodge these blasts, because she's
super agile, so she's doing backhand springs andflips and stuff to evade his blasts, and while in

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midair, she's gonna shoot out a plasmoid blastthat has the light intensity of like a flash bank,
and that's gonna blind Static, and so he can't seewhere he's flying on his saucer, and he ends up
crashing it into the ground and just fucking hisshit up. I'm calling BS on dodging electricity,
alright? But sure, let's say she gets lucky andmanages to dodge all of these electric strikes,

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but she's definitely not blinding him, because hewears sunglasses as part of his costume, so he does
crash, actually, but intentionally, into herreal hard. Well, I mean, like, Jubilee's right up
there with like Nightwing and Daredevil in termsof agility, so like if Nightwing and like Batman
can dodge a hail of bullets, I think it'sreasonable to say that she can dodge Static's

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blasts. It's more about anticipating where theblast is gonna go than, you know, being able to move
faster than a bullet or lightning or somethinglike that, and in fact, she's so agile when Static
tries to crash into her, Jubilee flips over him,and she clotheslines him off of his saucer,
knocking him to the ground, and then she unloads aplasmoid blast at his saucer that's powerful

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enough to destroy it, so he can't fly aroundanymore. Actually, his saucer is so agile and thin
that it can just dodge her plasmoid blasts, allright, because even though Static's not on it, he
could still control it via electromagnetism.It's like a video game for him, and he's gonna zip
that thing all around her fireworks and right intoher, knocking her to the ground as well. Well, I

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mean, if it's coming at her, you know, if she missedblasting it earlier, she's not gonna miss as it's
approaching her, because she's gonna throw herhands up and unload a fireworks display all around
in like a 15 foot radius, and that is definitelygonna destroy the saucer. Sure, fine, but Static
himself is protected from the fireworks sincehe's gonna throw up this electromagnetic force

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field around him, and once the fireworks are over,that's when Static puts on his own show with this
rapid fire homing chain lightning that there's noway Jubilee is going to dodge. So she gets shocked
real hard and repeatedly. She doesn't need tododge it because she can still fight energy with

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energy, so she just blocks the lightning withcounter blasts from her plasmoids, because
essentially lightning energy is plasma anyway,so yeah, counter. That's fair. Does Jubilee need
her hands to emit plasmoids? Like, does it comefrom her hands? No, not strictly. Like, she can
fire plasmoids from her hands, or she could dothings like create fireworks around herself

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without hand direction. Okay, well, you know,Static can create static fields that make things
like magnetically attract and stick to eachother, so I was gonna have him stick her hands to her
sides, but we'll say instead that he causes herhead to magnetically attract to the floor, so she
just drops straight down and that's going tointerrupt her counter blasts to his electricity,

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and so she for sure gets zapped. How does hemagnetize something like a head, which is
non-magnetic, and make it attract to the ground,which is also non-magnetic? Like, that doesn't
make any sense. He basically just has a stickypower. Sort of. Well, anything with electrons can
be magnetized, and that's one of his powers. He canmagnetize things that can't typically be

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magnetized. Like, he wants magnetized a guy'shead so that all these guns were attracted to it,
essentially. But yeah, so it's like a sticky,attractive power, and Jubilee just eats the
floor. Okay, so she may be stuck and trapped on theground, but that's not going to matter because
Jubilee can approach nuclear level with herblasts. Okay, so from the ground, she's just going

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to emit this fireworks show blasts that has likethe energy of like 10 combined firework finales,
like at a firework show. Just, it's justexplosions and colors everywhere that
completely engulf static, just vaporizing himwith all that destructive might. Now, I'm
guessing this is like 10 combined, like, littleleague firework shows, right? No, this is like 10

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combined, like, Disneyland level finalefirework shows. Okay. Well, I mean, as this is
going on, though, Static's just going to surroundhimself with the force field once again. And he's
going to run up to her really quick as she's pinnedto the ground. And he's going to Taser touch her,
which is going to overload her nervous system withelectricity that's going to cause her to stop with

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the fireworks and just become paralyzed instead.So the match is over. No, no, no, if he gets close
enough for a Taser touch, that means he's like,well within proximity for Jubilee to just
manifest an explosive plasmoid inside his forcefield. There doesn't have to be a direct line of
sight there. Like, Wolverine once told her thatshe could blow up people's heads from the inside if

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she wanted to. And in this instance, yeah, shewants to. So she pops off Static's head in the final
fireworks display and then it like manifests intothe sparkly design that says, I beat you in
fireworks letters. What? Okay, so you're tellingme that Jubilee can get through Magneto's force

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field? Is that what you're telling me? Like thiswhole time, all the X-Men needed to defeat Magneto
was fucking Jubilee? No, I would say that Static isnot at the level of Magneto. So no, she couldn't get
through Magneto's force field, but she could getthrough Static's for sure. That's dumb. That's
dumb. Let's end it here. Let's take it to the stats.Either Jubilee gets tased to the point of

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paralysis or Jubilee essentially turns Static'shead into a firework. Let's go ahead and input the
character stats, run the simulations and find outwhich of those two scenarios is more likely to
happen. A.J .9K, hit it! Inputting data, runningcalculations, processing results, simulations
complete. All right, well, hopefullyeverybody's Fourth of July is just as spectacular

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and colorful as this speculation was. And oursimpressive as Static's stats were, because he
dominated Jubilee in so many categories,including speed, evasiveness, strength since he
could lift things with electromagnetism,intellect, and versatility. Don't forget
perception, because he can listen to radio waveswith his powers. Right. Yeah, we said he was more

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evasive because he has his force field, he'sfaster because he can fly, but we did say that
Jubilee has greater damage potential than Staticdoes. And she's a better fighter, having received
more training. Is that going to be enough to takethis match? Maybe not, but also, yes. That makes
literally no sense. Well, according to ourInstagram followers, 72% of them also disagree

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with me, saying that Static would win. Well, let'sfind out if that's the case. Adj9k, the results,
please. Hey, you are, sir. The winner of thematchup between Static and Jubilee is Static. Of
course, Static. This was not even close. He won83.8% of the 1000 matches or 838 of the 1000

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battles, with Jubilee only winning 162 or 16.2%.This was a terrible match. Well, the real question
is who could win in a fight between these twocharacters in a video game battle? Like if they
picked up their controllers, I'm guessingJubilee would kick Static's ass. No, Static has a

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degree of technopathy, so she would still lose.No, powers aren't allowed in this video game
tournament. Says who? Says me. I'm saying who'sobjectively better at video games. Jubilee is. I
mean, personality-wise, I think the two arefairly similar when it comes to how geeky they are.
So a video game tournament would probably becloser than the results of this match were. And

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that's what matters. And that's what matters.Hey, whatever helps you sleep at night. But that
does it for this duel. Adj9k help close us out.Thanks for listening to Dynamic Joule. Visit the
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Destruction, Senjo World, and Console Combat. Inour next episode, we will be reviewing season one
of the Iron Heart Marvel television series. Iwatched the first three episodes already. I'm

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really looking forward to the last threeepisodes, though. Yeah, I haven't started the
show yet. I have been rewatching Sandman seasonone and lead up to Sandman season two, which starts
this week. But yeah, I'll eventually get to IronHeart. That does it for this episode. We want to
give a big thanks to our executive producers, JohnSturrosky, Zachary Hepburn, Dustin Belcom,

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We'll talk to you guys next week. Up, up, and away,true believers. Do you ever feel like a plastic bag

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drifting through the wind, wanting to startagain? You just got to ignite the light and let it
shine. Just own the night like the fourth of July.Cause baby, you're a firework. Come on, let your 520 00:49:04,810 --> colors burst. Make them go, oh, oh, oh, you're going to leave them all in awe. Oh, oh.