Bokke look to bounce back in Cape Town

Guest: Jan De Koning | Editor at Rugby 365

Zain Johnson and Jan de Koning preview SA vs Australia in the Rugby Championship taking place in Cape Town this weekend.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Join the conversation you with Cape Talk. The Springboks believe
that they have found the answers to the Wallabies and
that the Box head into Saturday's clash at Cape Town Stadium.
That's a DHL stadium with fresh changes and renewed determination
to put their rugby Championship campaign back on track again.

(00:21):
Invite the editor of Rugby three sixty five, Yander Quinning,
ahead of the game. Yana, very good morning to you
and welcome to the show.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Good morning and thank you on it to be on
your show again.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
The match will mark the first time that the team's
actually meet in Cape Town since twenty fourteen. The Box
actually won that match twenty eight ten and hopefully able
to either the same tomorrow or do better than that.
Now there's been ten changes to the starting line Young,
is this rotation or just sheer desperation after Alice Park.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
It's a combination. I wouldn't say necessary desperation. I think
it's a need for change. But there was plans. I mean,
unless you would have said to the team this is
a combination that I want to feature at a Spark
and this is a combination I would like to feature
in Cape Town. The problem was that a number of

(01:19):
players underperformed. They got a spark and actually needed to
make some changes. I think there's some interesting changes for me.
That the important stuff is the calmness, calm heads of
hundred Pollard Willi LaRue we've been spoiled over the years
that the lead just brings us special and a chest
in Colby that just brings a special calmness and skill

(01:40):
to the game, and the other players didn't deliver. So
I think those are the interesting back line changes for me.
There's definitely a calmness in experience in that back line
front is very very interesting for me. That the loose
forward combination. I think John the Prayer is getting a
chance to maybe that all important number eight spot. We're

(02:02):
searching for a replacement for Dwayne Famil and that person
that brings a physicality. I think John Look could be
that person. Then moving Frank and Mosta to flank for
me is interesting. It is not always had his best performance.
We know what his engineers like, we know what his
skill is like, but he's not always had his best
performances on the flank. So let's see how he performs

(02:24):
there tomorrow. That's an opportunity and then marcophon Swaden. The
lock combination is interesting, but I think some of the
traits we definitely need it. And because he wants to
shake up the team and shake up the players so
that I understand you're not ever Garantee replacement team.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
They're calling this the bock lash instead of the backlash.
And you know a number of people speaking about back
to basics and doing a factory reset, and Russia spoke
about getting things right and what does the Box then
need to fix most urgently?

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Young bring intensity, bring attitude for the full eighty minute.
I think there's two things we really remember. The weather
is going to play an important role here at Alice
Parket was dried was art surface or firm surface, so
this speak, but I mean we all know that what
Cape done is like as you guys well know, there's

(03:15):
a bit of moist in the air, may bit more
than just a bit of moist, but when you get
to that cape on surface is not the most stable
surface and with all the rain that's been around, that
will be a factor. And then obviously the intensity of
the team for the full eighteen minutes. Last week, the
drop off in the second half was not a Box standard,

(03:35):
and I think that's what Racie was. That's where it
comes from, is the place must deliver attitude and intensity
for a full eighteen minutes to prevent a comeback from
not I was just like that that last week.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
The injuries of Mesa Calisi, Peter Steff, to Toy and
of course Edward from Nomerva. How will that that effect
the squad running onto the field tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
I don't think the injuries will impact the squat, the
actual squad that that runs on. I think it's more
the long term finding guys that can bring their intensity.
I think Peter Steff, we also know what he bring
into the game and that eighty minute performance. There's been

(04:22):
talked about not having his best season. I think I
was going to ask the question last week. We need
to start talking when CEO is going to retire. It
is a conversation we need to have. But also again
SA left his game back to the cer that we know,
so I think those questions or what you refer to
is probably more what impacts will have on them personally

(04:45):
rather than what it will have. I don't think it
will have an impact on the team that runs onto
the field on Saturday. That's a that's a more RASI
will inspire the team to left their game.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Andrea Pollard actually needs three points to reach eight hundred
points in the in the test matches for South Africa,
so it's going to be a big game for him.
Chatting this morning to Jander Corning, the editor at Rugby
three sixty five, and we're talking about the big match
in Cape Town at the DHL Stadium between the spring
Box and the Wallabies. After the I don't know striking

(05:18):
defeats last week where there were twenty two up and
then lost that particular match, young, does this Test match
then feel like a must win for the spring Box
as both New Zealand and Australia are currently at the
top of the table with five points each and you
know what are our championship chances?

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Then the tournaments not over this after this we've played
two back to back games in New Zealand against All blacked,
so no by all means that tournament's not over. But
it's a mustman for me in a sense that so
efricam a show that they are truly world champions. Last
weekuess in outlive for me, the quality of the performance

(05:58):
the second half, I would use the word shocking, because
that's not what we know the Box can do. We
know they can play better and so it must win, yes,
very much so, but because we want to see the
standards that they can to format, not as a spark.
We went to see the reil Box after month, so
that's the most win. And then once we win and

(06:21):
we get back on in the race, then we can
start focusing on the real championship, which will be decided
in New Zealand in the next four title the next
two rounds, Rounds three and four in New Zealand.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Hopefully it's going to be a fantastic day for the
spring Box tomorrow, Young, But is your final prediction for
tomorrow's game on Cape Town? Because you know there's a
Cape Town here which probably brings about a lot of
impact with the spring Box.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
I will put my money on the spring so we
wouldn't put my house on the spring Box, but definitely from.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Somebody on you put your peddication on the spring Box.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
I'll of the biggy bank and put somebody on the
spin Bux that went by about ten twelve points.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
I would actually be remissed Young not to ask you
about the upcoming Women's Rugby World Cup kicking off today,
South Africa will face Brazil on Sunday. How do you
assess these South African women's team's chances.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
I've said a while ago after those two performers against
the New Zealand, I'm almost calling the B team that
was the I don't know if it's an academy team or
a B team, but I thought I got excited. That's
the first time I really got excited because I saw
some potential, not that it was never there, but I
saw some real potential in the women and I would
love to see them. And I think they've got a

(07:39):
real chance of reaching the playoffs for the first time,
and I think that would be there when that would
be their victory. I don't think So Africa's got a
chance of winning a tournament. Anything can happen, you know,
Let's not the best the fact that anything can happen.
But I think if they come back and they reached
the quarterfinals, they can have all their heads up high
and they can pull themselves vicious. They have reached their goal.

(08:02):
Their World Cup performance would be a success if they
can reach the.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Quarterfinals and tomorrow the Australians. What would they be putting
up because obviously they would love to do a two,
know against the spring Boks on home ground.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, they will need to be another eighty minute performance
and they need to come up with a few surprises
and they did the same that the last week. We
will definitely bring something different. We know we've got a
different block building as well, so their physicality and their surprises.
If we give them as much opportunities as we did
last week, make as many mistakes as we did last week,

(08:45):
they will have a chance. But I don't think they
bring anything significantly different thtill and if we go up
to twenty two points again, I don't think they will get
back in the game this time. So I would expect
much of the same from them. It's rather what the
spring Bok can do differently and how much better this
can be that will decide to out of this game.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
And that's under quinning, almost said Rassia Rasmad. But the
under quinning the editor at three six five chatting to
us this morning about the game and about the fact
that you know the game is in Cape Town, what
the Springboks are up against, the changes in the lineup.
You know there are a number of changes done to
the team and I think, as Jan says, this was

(09:28):
the team he played in Johannesburg at Allis Park and
this will be the team that he plays in Cape Town.
Damien Delenda will move into tenth place on the list
as the most capped Springbook of all time one hundred
and thirty five Test matches and that's sorry, it's a
bit will extend his record as the most capped Springbok

(09:49):
of all time in one hundred and thirty five Test matches.
The Box have won seven of their last eight matches
against the Wallabies in Cape Town since nineteen ninety two.
Attrack recod that there will be detail to bolt on
this weekend and they only defeat against the Wallabies in
Capeton was in nineteen ninety two when the visitors beat
them twenty six to three. Looking forward to a fantastic

(10:10):
game at the DHL Stadium in Cape Town. And for
the rest of you people, it is brie, briye, briyey.
Bring out the wood, bring out the charcoal, and you
will be having a brie if you are in the
Hautang area watching that particular match.