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July 9, 2025 7 mins

Ron DeSantis Reacts To Elon Musk's Political Party: Not worried

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Hey everybody. Welcome back to the Elon Musk
Podcast. This is a show where we discuss
the critical crossroads, the Shape, SpaceX, Tesla X, The
Boring Company, and Neurolink. I'm your host, Will Walden.
And final thing I'll say is, youknow, I've been getting asked
about this idea of, of this ElonMusk political party.

(00:24):
And I just want to say, I mean, I think Elon Musk has been, you
know, one of the the most innovative entrepreneurs, not
just in our country's history, but probably in world history.
And I think he's done a lot. I think he's got a lot more left
in the tank. Obviously, I appreciated him his
efforts in the 2024 election. And I've been a big supporter of

(00:44):
the idea of, of the doge becausethe federal government's
spending way too much money. We, we've adopted that in
Florida, even though we have a budget surplus and are paying
down debt and we have the secondlowest spending per capita of
all 50 states, but we're still doing it in Florida because I
always want to do better. But when Elon was in the doge,
there were grants that had been done that we rejected in

(01:06):
Florida. We, we would call Elon, they
would cancel it immediately. We sent over almost a billion
dollars to where they were able to recover.
There were DEI, there were stuffwe're not doing.
And so, so there was a lot that was done that was very, very
positive. And so I think I've been a big
fan of what it, what he's done. The problem is when you do

(01:27):
another party, especially if you're running on some of the
issues that he talks about, you know, that would end up, if he
funds Senate candidates and House candidates and competitive
races, that would likely end up meaning the Democrats would win
all the competitive Senate and House races.
And so, look, I'm a Republican, you know, I don't want to see
that happen. I think if you want to, you

(01:48):
know, get get involved and hold accountable.
You know, we do have a problem in the Republican Party with
these DC congressmen. They always run saying there's
out of control spending and they're going to spend less, and
they never do it. And so there's a gap between the
campaign rhetoric and then the performance.
Elon was doing Doge and a lot ofCongress didn't want anything to

(02:09):
do with actually adopting the doge cuts, just like they didn't
want to. They haven't wanted to adopt the
Trump executive orders on immigration and all these other
things, which I think you have to adopt in law if you want them
to have staying power. So I think there is a lot of
frustration with the gap betweenthe rhetoric in their district
and the performance once they get into DC.

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But the way you do that is expose that in a primary and
show that there's a another way forward.
Honestly, if you're concerned about the debt, I wouldn't even
worry about that because I don'tthink just electing a few better
people is going to change your trajectory.
We need the incentives in Washington are going to lead to
these outcomes really regardlessof the outcome of elections at

(02:54):
this point. So you need to do a balance
budget amendment to the US Constitution, and you can do
that through the states. You can do it through Article 5.
We've got 28 states that have approved this.
There's another four or five that are on the docket.
Once you hit 34, then you write an amendment and then the states
are able to ratify that you need3/4.

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You know, if Elon wanted to weigh in on that and work on
those state legislation, I mean,he would have a monumental
impact on doing this. And we also need term limits for
members of Congress. And so you can do both of those
things, but I think if you did that, all of a sudden that moves
the needle on both of those issues.

(03:37):
You know, under Article 5 of theConstitution, you are going to
see major, major positive changes.
But you have to change the incentives and the structures up
there because we've seen a time and time again, you have the
rhetoric, same results. You have the rhetoric, same
results when it comes to debt. And so this is one way to do it
and it's within our grass to do it.

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Florida's already certified bothof those term limits has really
gained a lot of steam over the last couple years.
There was only one or two statesthat had done it like 5 or 6
years ago. Now you've got a lot more
balanced budget amendment has been has been out there for a
long time. A lot of people have wanted to
do it. That's very close.
And if you do those things and Ithink you actually have a chance

(04:18):
to really change Congress. But as it is now, you know, even
if somehow a third party could elect some people that were, you
know, so-called fiscal conservative, I don't think it
would even move the needle even if they got elected.
And we know that they wouldn't get elected because it's really
one or two parties. So you're either just taking
votes away from one side or the other is really how it ends up
doing. So, you know, I'm a believer in

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trying to work this stuff out through the Republican process
rather than do that. But I think even more than that,
doing these amendments which arewithin our grasp, it doesn't
require Congress. You can do it through Article 5
and do it through the states. You know, that would have a huge
impact on the trajectory of the country.
You know, in the late 90s, they were one vote away in the US

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Senate from passing a balanced budget amendment.
It would have had to been ratified by the states, but I
think it would have been at the time.
Now, we had a budget surplus federally at the time.
Just imagine how different our fiscal trajectory would be right
now had that balanced budget amendment passed 20, 2627 years
ago. I mean, we wouldn't be having

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the, you know, some of these debates about, about all the
mounting debt. And so we were very close to
doing it. And I think because we were in
pretty good fiscal shape, I think people just said it was
better to not, you know, the, the kind of the, the, the, the
swing votes. Well, why tie hands?
Things are going well. But had they done that, man, we
would be in really good shape. So let's do a balanced budget

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amendment, tie the hands of the big spenders term limit them so
they can't as sconce themselves in office for decades like Nancy
Pelosi. You know, I don't know why.
I mean, like if she were to run a hedge fund with her stock
trades, I mean, man, she would make a lot of money.
So why don't we do that? That is achievable.

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And especially I mean, if somebody as significant as Elon
wants to get in the game on that, he will have AI think very
consequential impact on that. And I think would be just the
type that could bring this across the finish line.
And wouldn't we want to see these guys have some limits on
how much damage that they can do?

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So I'm, I think Washington needsto be over all the 100%.
I, I just don't think a, a, a third party's going to do it.
But I do think these, these amendments can make a big, big
difference. OK, thanks everyone.
God bless. Hey, thank you so much for
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And I'll see you tomorrow.
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