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for the show Elon Musk News. I am become meme, Yeah, pretty
much. I'm just, I'm living the meme.
I'm it's like this living the dream and there's living the
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meme and it's pretty much what'shappening, you know?
You're like, I think your. Biggest.
I mean Doge started out as a meme.
Think about it now it's real. Isn't that crazy?
It is. It is crazy.
But it's cool let. Me ask you this a year ago, if
someone had told you you'd be atCPAC and working with the
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president to absolutely shred the government, the swamp,
whatever you want to call it, would you ever believe that?
No, no, me neither. But it's cool.
This is awesome and and I just want to say, you know, thanks
for your support. I mean, guys are, you know, so I
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mean, we're, you know, we're trying to get, get good things
done, but also like, you know, have a good time doing it and,
you know, and have like a sense of humor, you know.
So like, like, I mean, the, the,the, the sort of the, the left
wanted to make comedy illegal. You know, like you can't make
fun of anything. So it was like comedy sucks.
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It's like nothing's funny. You can't make fun of anything.
It's like legalize comedy. Yeah, legalize comedy.
And we've, we've, we've shifted the entire culture in just the
last few months, the whole culture of the country has
shifted dramatically just because of that election.
Yeah, exactly. You know, freedom of speech, I
mean, you know, having fun again, it seems like we should,
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we should have a good time, you know?
It, I mean, it's a great time. Everybody in this place is so
excited and I haven't. I mean, when you talk to
conservatives, everybody's happyand everybody feels this great
sense of relief because we were going to hell for about four
years. It really felt bad, especially
toward the end, it felt really bad.
Yeah. I mean, I thought we were, I
thought we were sort of heading for a point in no return really,
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you know? And so that's why it was so
essential that President Trump win the election and and that
there there be a Republican majority in the House and
Senate, which thanks to you withthat, that has been
accomplished. Yeah, I want to ask you one of
the biggest questions I have foryou is and you, you've been, you
know, politically, you weren't really on one side or the other
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for a long time. You're a businessman.
A lot of people stay away from it.
Now you're on a side and you've chosen to say you're sitting
here in a MAGA hat. What?
What's it? You know, how did that happen?
What was the moment like, you know?
Dark gothic MAGA, that's a good one.
I what? Was there a specific moment?
Was there a moment that it all changed?
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Yeah, when I realized it was a fool, but no, I I was, I guess,
Yeah. I mean, I'd say like it's
probably politically neutral forfor quite a while, you know, you
know, leaning a little Democrat,you know, how do you go?
From to. This.
Yeah. No, no.
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Well. Did they go crazy?
Yeah, they didn't, they didn't go crazy.
They went crazy. No, I mean the, the whole cancel
culture and, and you know, it's trying to stop freedom of speech
and infringe upon just in general infringe upon people's
personal freedoms. You know, they just want state
control, state control of what you say they want to, you know,
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take away your, your guns and the reason I want to take away
your guns. So like there's nothing you do
to oppose them. So it's sort of like, you know,
I just, I just like we, we, we just need to restore the, the
fundamental elements of what made America great, which is
freedom and opportunity. Yeah.
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We're, we're seeing a lot of these freedoms disappearing in
the West. It's, it's not just about
America. We're watching, we're all
watching Europe and knowing thatthey're about 5000 years ahead
of us, right? Because they got an early start
and we're watching how they're devolving and you're trying to
save it from happening. Here, I mean, in Europe, they
put people in prison for memes. Yeah, you know, I'm like, that's
insane. And they're collapsing.
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I mean, this society is, it's a collapsing society.
It feels that way. It feels like.
France was nicer 50 years ago than it is today.
Yeah, I don't think you can question that.
Yeah, so. But yeah, I mean really it's the
face. I'll be sure.
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I mean, I really, I really just wanted to do useful things like,
you know, basically build products, you know, provide
products and services that that are that are good and that that
that wasn't really like that interested in being political.
It just like there was at a certain point no choice.
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Yeah, so. Yeah.
Can I, can I ask you what on thesame side of that coin, what's
it like from going neutral to being vilified, largely vilified
by the media? I think you're.
What? No, really, I mean.
Turn on some of these channels brother, I mean.
They're angry. Does it bother you at all this
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little? Is that good to you?
Yeah, there's, I mean, when they're chanting for my death, I
suppose that's a little, you know, not good.
And then like this song is not even that good.
And it's like like, you call that a desk chat?
That's nothing, please. They've been singing a lot
lately, good music. There's a lot of music lately.
It's not good music either. Yeah, I would say that there,
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you know, watching what you're doing with Doge is, is just that
people love it. I mean, I I've always looked at
the government and I've, I've always looked at the government.
I've seen this big machine that and you just know that they
waste because they don't care. Nobody could just more money
coming. They don't care.
You're cutting all this out. Everybody in this country knows
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that the government is full of waste, fraud and abuse and
you're doing the work and the Americans love it.
Watching their reaction politically to this, I can't
believe how bad they are at responding to this.
I don't know how you're going tosit there and and scream and
complain because they're cuttingwaste out of the government and
try to win another election. How?
How do you try to win them? Well, I'm at this point, I'm
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like, I'm not sure how much of the left is even real, you know?
How much was propped up by our money, you know?
Yeah, yeah. Like literally, you know, you
see like these these sort of fake rallies where there's like
hardly any people and the media will like frame it and like, you
know, get full six people, you know, in the frame.
But it's like nobody else is there.
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Like just it, it doesn't have popular support, but but there's
but but then you then you, you learn that like there's hundreds
of billions of dollars going to be so-called Ng OS that, that,
that and it's your tax dollars that are funding things that are
fundamentally anti American. And and the propping up their
narrative, yes, a lot of that government money has been
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propping up a left that I don't think is as strong as they made
it seem. In fact, a massive amount of of
your tax dollars is going to legacy media companies.
Yes, directly from the from fromthe government, the.
Government wants to take over media.
Yeah, it's terrible. Yeah.
That's why we have X. Yeah, and that's.
That's why you spent $44 billion.
I mean, that's a lot of money. I mean.
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More than it was probably worth,but it had a There was a
message. Freedom is priceless.
Priceless. Yeah.
Probably one of the most important investments this
country's ever seen. If you got to protect the 1st
Amendment, it's not much more important than that.
Yeah, I mean, I got a lot of criticism and people said, well,
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that proves he's a huge idiot from a, you know, like, look,
you know, he voted for whatever,$44 billion an ounce worth like
$0.08 and. It's not worth it.
But you know, there's but but but yeah, it was essentially to,
you know, buy freedom of expression and.
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Yes, that's gone with all. Of it all over.
Yeah, into tyranny is really quick after that.
Yeah, I mean, like, you know, it's all the all the all the
sort of federal money going to media companies is what what
helps explain why the legacy of media all says the same thing at
the same time. Yeah.
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Like, isn't it like it's like weird, like you, you put them up
where it's like, you know, like when they're.
They're mouthpieces for for the state.
For the state, yes. And that's that's what we've
come to know. Yeah, scary.
And and and I like the the mean when they're whether because
they're always saying like threat to our democracies that
threat to but you just replaced democracy with bureaucracy.
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Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. It makes perfect sense, yeah.
Big threat for the bureaucracy. That's exactly right.
Let's talk about, let's talk about these DOGE dividend checks
that everybody's talking about this week.
And I know you tweeted out that you're going to, does everybody
want like a $5000 check in the mail or sounds kind of good,
right? And and the best part about it
would be knowing where it came from that that's 5 grand that
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you sent them last year. Totally.
It's it's, it's, it's money that's taken away from from
things that are destructive to the country that and from
organizations that hate you to you.
That's awesome. Is it does it seem like, I mean,
have you talked? I mean, that's like glorious.
That's like the spoils of battle, you know, I.
Like that is there? Is there traction on that?
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Yeah, yeah. So, well, yeah, I don't know.
I talked to the president and he's supportive of that.
And so it sounds like, you know,that's something we're we're
going to do. Yep.
So as as we're finding savings, that's going to translate
directly to reductions in tax. So yeah.
They, they, I mean, I think theyfired 6000 people at the IRS
today. And I think what Nick said last
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night that he, they're talking about shutting down the IRS.
And I, I, I think it's fair. I think people should realize
this is, I mean, the amount of money that we said we send
Washington, like 5 or 6 trilliona year, that is such an ungodly
amount of money. I mean, what do they say?
Like a trillion seconds is like 30 years or something like that.
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I mean, that's how much we send them and they seem to never have
enough. There's must be a lot you can
cut. No, absolutely.
People ask me what's the most surprising thing that you've
encountered when you go to DC, you know, where you're in DC And
I said, well, the most surprising thing is the scale of
the expenditures and actually how easy it is to with a just
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just what when you add caring and competence where it was
absent before, you can actually save billions of dollars
sometimes in this in an hour. Yeah, like it's it's in a while.
And then they scoff at it and say, oh, a few billion here,
there. I mean, the way they're talking
about it, they, they, you can see they don't care.
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It's it's so it's such little money compared to how much
they're used to wasting. That's what's really scary.
Yeah. No, I mean.
It's exactly, but obviously it's, it's, it just shows that
they, they really lack empathy for the average taxpayer who's
working hard, paying, paying taxes.
And then, and then they say, oh,$1,000,000 doesn't matter.
I'm like, I think it matters a lot people, you know, So what
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are you talking about? I'd like to have it.
Let me ask you a question. I, you know, I know the
president fairly well, watched him survive 2 assassination
attempts. The second had the first one not
happened, the second one would have gotten him.
You know, it was very because without those extra guys, they
would have never seen that gun poking through the fence at the
golf course. I saw the the the crew that you
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it's. Like mind blowing that this has
happened. I mean, I just and and what, by
the way, why do we still know nothing about that guy in
Butler? What's going on?
But. He's he's.
He's hash is going to get to thebottom of it.
Yeah, by the way, yeah, whoa, confirmed, confirmed just a
couple of hours ago. But I, I saw that the security
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detail that you had come in is, is enormous.
Well, it's that enormous. Maybe it should be bigger, I
don't know. I think you could probably
afford it, but I mean, how concerned are you about your
safety dealing? I mean, it's you.
Are you are a wanted man. Are you?
Are you? Yeah.
So I, I look, I'm open to ideas for improving security.
I have to tell you. Like I, I, I don't actually have
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a death wish. I think I, but, but you know,
it's not that easy. So yeah, I mean, but, but, but I
have like, I've had even like people like President Bocelli
from El Salvador who, who managed to put in prison like
like 100,000 like murderous thugs.
And, and he was like, he called me.
He's like, I'm worried about your security.
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I'm like, you're worried about my security.
I'm like, what? OK, does it?
You know, I mean, yeah, talk about guts to do that down
there. I mean, yeah, totally.
And then survive. Like, I'm like, I was like, how
did you put all those thugs in prison without dying?
Because seems like that would have been not easy, you know
Well. There's a the, the the president
has one of his top attorneys is now investigating, I guess Chuck
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Schumer for threats against SCOTUS Congressman on the
Democrat side. We're saying, you know,
basically saying they're going to bring a war to you like a
fight to you. I mean the rhetoric.
You guys are screwing with things that are not supposed to
be messed with. And we're fighting with.
A lot of people that really don't want that to happen.
Yeah, we're fighting Matrix big time here.
Yeah, but it has got to be done.Yeah.
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And. It certainly does.
What's what's going on with tellus about Fort Knox?
Yeah, there's Kentucky. It's a military base.
It's a ton of gold. Tons and tons and tons 5. 1000
tons of gold or. 5000 or 10 goldare there in the ground and like
this I mean it's a very secure thing you.
All want to see. It you know I'd love.
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To see it like this is your gold, by the way.
It's the you. It's the public's gold.
You think it's not there? I don't know, but I think.
Just want to see it. Yeah, we want to go see it and
just make sure like somebody dida spray paint some lad or
something, you know? Yeah, like is this real gold
bite bite in the bar? You know, didn't.
But I think honestly, you know, part of this also is just like,
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let's let's you know, let's havesome fun.
And and and you know, like, likeI said, this, this oldest gold
in Fort Knox, it's the public's gold.
It's your gold. So like I think you have like a
right to see it. Take a tour, you know.
Yeah, I think we should have it,do it, do it, tour.
And then the president last night was like, that's all.
I think he's in favor of it. That'll be cool.
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And then we like, should be likea live tour.
Like you'll see what's going on.Open the door.
Like what's behind it. Well, and there's, you know, I
think. I'd watch that.
Oh, are you kidding? Yeah.
I mean, what is? What is 5000 tons of?
Well, totally. What?
How? Big is it?
Is it? Is it the size of this?
Got to be pretty big, you know? It's got to be a lot of.
But there's some other stuff in there like this walk around.
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Like, I don't know, maybe I got some other stuff in there.
Are you, are you thinking about auditing the Federal Reserve as
well? Which is obviously, yeah, sure.
Regular regulates, right. I I imagine you think the waste
has got to be everywhere. Yeah, no waste.
Waste is pretty much everywhere.People ask like how can you find
waste in in like in DC? I'm like, look, it's like being
in A room and, and this target, the, the wall, the roofs and the
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floor are all targets. So it's like you're going to
close, rise and go shoot in any direction.
You see, you can't miss, you know.
So it's, it's, it's pretty wild.Like, like you just push on
things a little bit and, and yousave billions of dollars, like
just a little bit, you know? It's wild, it's scary, isn't?
It it's, that's why I say it like it really is underrated
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where if you add caring and competence, how much things
improve. Yeah.
And, and, you know, and we, we just find so many totally crazy
things and which, you know, we're obviously we're sharing
with the public. We post everything we learn, you
know, just, you know, so you cansee it, you know, what do you?
And and like, it's like, isn't it like it's totally wild.
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Like we did just, we just did like a check the database on
Social Security, like says how many a lot Americans alive,
Americans eligible for Social Security are there.
And according to the database, it's over 400 million.
And we're like, wait a second. And how many are getting old and
you're getting? Good.
Yeah. And and then like we found like
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one person in there is like 360 years old.
I'm like, what do they know? Brent for 100?
Years or so for the river, I mean.
Yeah, you know, there's America doesn't exist before at that
time, like so I so, yeah, we were colonies.
You know, maybe it's just me, but I think it's a red flag.
I don't know. But are there indications that
those that there were checks going to those people or any of
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those people? Well, yes.
I guess the question right this,I mean, I get the Social
Security Administration is dumb,but are they paying these
people? Are they that dumb?
I don't know. A bunch of money is going out
for the Social Security Administration and in fact, from
all entitlements programs. People that billion in waste in
like 7 years, that's ten billiona year.
Well, I I think the the fraudulent payments, the the
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rough or estimate from general the Government Accountability
offices on as over $500 billion a 40 year if I 500 billion.
And how long the time? Of per year.
Per year on on Social Security. No, no, no on, all on.
All government. On all entitlements.
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All entitlements, Yeah, yeah, itit, it sort of actually makes
sense when you look at the thingfrom a top level and say like,
OK, the $7 trillion was spendingby the government.
What percentage do you think is fraudulent?
OK, exactly. Like a A conservative estimate
of the seven trillion will be 10% conservative.
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Probably a little higher than that.
Yeah, exactly. Feels like 1/4 out of every
dollar right? But if if the if the fraud's
only 10% of 7 trillion, you've got $700 billion of fraud.
Yeah. And by the way, so it's like
really easy to take advantage ofthe federal government.
It's very. Easy, very easy.
Look at COVID. Yes.
Everybody got rich during COVID.I mean, look at all those.
I mean, it's unbelievable. We.
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We, it, it, it looks like in terms of the COVID payments,
yeah, there was something like $200 billion of, of COVID
payment fraud taken by forces out of the country.
Out of the country. Yeah, that's like, like, I
think, listen, there's going to be fraud that should at least be
domestic. Yeah.
So, you know, but they managed to get $200 billion out of the
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country. I'm like, what?
Didn't we notice that? Let me ask you, let's do
immigration here for a second. You know, there's this move now
that Trump's latest thing is that he cut, he's going to cut
funding any kind of money that ends up in the hands of illegal
immigrants. So if you're funding these
sanctuary cities and states, that's how right they're paying
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for these hotels. That's all federal money.
If you got a hotel in your city in New York, you got all these
hotels full of migrants. That's not state money.
That's the feds are covering that.
He's going to cut all that. It's really hard to deport
15,000,000 people. And it seems like the move now
is. Let's see if we especially at
the rate that we're going, it seems like the move now is.
Let's make it so that they leaveon their own.
If there's no longer a dole system for them, if they can't
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get their hands on hotel rooms and money, they're going to go
back, especially if there's no work.
Well, I think it's really important for people to
understand that the, the, the Biden administration sent any
possible money that they could. They could if, if there was
money they could send to facilitate and amplify illegal
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immigration, they sent it. OK, They took money from FEMA
meant for helping Americans in distress and sent that money to
luxury hotels for illegal immigrants in New York.
That is a an outrage. They actually did that.
And and not only that, even after the president signed an
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executive order saying it has tostop the famous, the, the, the
sort of whatever deep state bureaucrats still still pressed
send on $80 million last week togo to the Roosevelt Hotel in New
York and other places last week and now and now they're mad that
they've got stopped and they're like trying to sue to have it be
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restored. It's like the gumption.
You think? You think that?
Creating a new voter classes, would you think that was the
goal when they opened up classesfor four years?
Create a new voter class, get them citizenship, get them in.
Yeah, cards, but. A lot of these things like you
don't actually have to assume some grand conspiracy.
You just need to look at basic incentives, benefits.
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So if the incentives fundamentally, if if the
probability that an illegal is going to vote Democrat at some
point, whether it's, you know, cheating, but eventually that
can become citizens. But if the probability is like
8090%, just look at California, which is super majority Dem.
And then the incentive is to maximize the number of illegals
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in the country. That is why the Biden
administration was pushing to get in as many illegals as
possible and spend every dollar possible to get as many, because
every one of them is a customer,everyone's a voter.
So the whole thing was a giant voter importation scam.
Pretty obvious. Very obvious.
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And then they moreover then theythey actually created the CVP
one voter app thing where they were, which is like the way they
could they would literally fly people in.
It's not like like at the point in which you know, people being
flown in at, at your expense. Sending planes.
Building a wall up. This is flying them.
Over the board, yeah, they're. Literally flying them in no.
Other No other country in the world would do something like
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this. Nobody is this stupid.
Yeah. And and then we found that it
was like $100 million contract given to some guy in London
actually oddly enough, yeah, forthe CVP one out.
So, so then so they're, they're flying illegals into the swing
states. Yeah.
And and if you've got like a, a margin of victory of maybe
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20,000 people and you fly 200,000 illegals into that
state, it's not going to be a spring state.
For long, change the numbers. Eventually, yeah, maybe in 4-8
years. You're exactly.
Just a. It's a long game, it's.
Just a matter of time. So it might take like a year for
a sound secret or something to get on the to get get the green
card, then five years for the citizenship.
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It's it's is there an investmentthat is guaranteed to pay off?
Yeah. Just a question of when.
They all remember who brought them in and who left the
marriage. Exactly, exactly.
I want to go back. I want to talk about a big deal
like. I think a lot of people like
don't quite appreciate that thiswas an actual real scam at scale
to tilt the scales of democracy in America.
Treason. Treason.
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One more Biden question. I remember when, you know, when
they would do the electric car stuff, they would always try to
box you out even though you havethe only electric car anybody
wants. Yeah, you.
You said, I think this week thatyou think that Biden left these
astronauts up in space because he didn't want to give you an
opportunity to save them, make NASA look bad, make the private
sector look better, make you look good.
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You believe that? Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
So of course. I kind of agree.
And I. Why would he want to let you
help them come down when you're supporting?
The president, the Biden administration was was attacking
the next level. I mean, the department is of
justice or injustice under the Biden administration was I mean,
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there was suing SpaceX. There's they're suing SpaceX for
not hiring asylum seekers. And we're like, but it's
actually illegal for us to hire asylum seekers because we're
rocket technology is covered under ITAR rules, which is that
means it's an advanced weapons technology.
And so we can only hire permanent residents or green or,
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or citizens, right? Like so.
So we're damned if we do it, damned if we don't.
We still like, so how can they sue us for not hiring asylum
seekers when it's actually illegal for us to do so?
But nonetheless, there was a bigDepartment of Justice or
Injustice case about this against SpaceX.
So obviously it was an antagonistic situation.
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And those astronauts were supposed to be up there for 8
days and now they're up for eight months.
Does that make any sense? And, and, and we, we obviously
could have brought them back sooner, but they didn't want it
to, didn't want anyone who supported President Trump to
look good, basically. Yeah, that's the, that's the,
that's the issue. The, a lot of them are saying
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right now that the reason that you want to get into Social
Security, that you want to get into all of these different,
into treasury and things like that, is that you're looking for
personal information and you're trying to make more money.
Yeah. I, I've never met anybody as
rich as you that cared less about money in my life.
Every time I hear a story about you, you're sleeping on a couch
of some other guy in a city thatyou could buy the entire thing.
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Yeah, I'm not I. Don't think you care about
money? Do.
You. No, actually, I mean, listen,
like if I if I steal some SocialSecurity, I can finally buy nice
things, Yeah. And, and, and on that same
question, they're also talking about you guys are going to end
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Social Security, you're going toend Medicare, you're going to
end these things. I, I don't imagine that
conversation has been had with the president and that's, that's
the plan. No, in fact, the actions that
we're taking with the support ofthe president and the support of
the agencies is what will save Medicare, what will save Social
Security. And and it's it because if the
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country goes insolvent, if, if, if all of if all the money is
just spent on paying interest ondebt, there's no money left for
anything. Yeah.
So that's, that's the reason I'mdoing this is because I'm, I was
looking at the big picture here.And it's like, man, our debt's
getting out of control. The the interest payments.
The interest on the national debt now exceeds the entire
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Defense Department budget. Trillion a year in interest just
to carry the money that we owe is a trillion a year.
That is unbelievable. And rising rapidly it's so so
like it's I mean a country is not over from a person country
overspends country goes bankrupt.
The same with the same as a person who overspends goes
bankrupt. So it's it's not like optional
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to solve these things. It's essential so we're.
Going to go bankrupt. Yes, we are.
Couple minutes left here, Russia, there's a huge push from
the Oh yeah, yeah. People like, sort of like to end
the war. They're like, you know, I, I'm,
I'm a, I'm a bored asset of Putin.
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Yeah. I'm like, he can't afford me.
Yeah. I think I think you're worth
more than Russia. Think about it.
So what we're you're trying to end?
You're trying to end a war. It's all any war always means.
You have to compromise. You have to negotiate with an
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enemy or an adversary. That's just what it is.
And right now they are lambasting the president for
trying a different method to warthat they haven't been able to
end for 3 1/2 years or three years.
They, you know, they're, they'resaying Trump's blaming Zelinsky
for the invasion. How, how do you, how do you
process all of the negativity toward him for trying to end
this war? Well, first of all, I think we
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should have empathy for the people dying at the front lines.
That's the most important thing.If people have been dying, you
know, it's like, how many more years is this supposed to go on?
Yeah. And imagine if that was your
son, your father, You know, whatare they dying for?
What exactly are they dying for?That line that has the line of
engagement has barely moved for two years.
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Yeah. There's a whole bunch of people
dead in trenches For what? And I'll, I'll tell you what,
for what it's like for the biggest graft machine that I've
ever seen in my life, That's forwhat it's, it's unreal.
Like the, the, the amount of money that is, that is being
taken in, in Grafton bribery is,is disgusting.
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And and so what's actually happening is that those, those,
you know, people, those poor guys are getting extended to a
meat grinder for money. That's what's actually going on.
Yeah. And it needs to stop and.
That's, I mean, that's it seems.I mean, Trump is so pragmatic on
this. It's just he's just looking at
it and he's saying it's Ukraine,it's not our country, it's not a
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NATO ally. I just want to see people not
dying. I want to see on both sides.
I mean, think about how many young, so many young men have
died in Ukraine that the army isstarting to age out.
The military is aging out. You got 40 and 50 year old guys
fighting in a war because there's nobody left that's not
killed or maimed in their 20s. Yeah, that's the reality of it.
Think about how many people thatis.
If you're a humanitarian at all,you just got to end the war.
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Like no matter what, just get itover with.
Yes, people, they need to stop dying and, and and the growth
machines got to stop, you know, so.
And I think people, yeah, they don't a lot of people out there
don't realize like the presidenthas a lot of empathy.
He really cares, you know, he's a good, he's a good man, so.
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I got one more for you. I've been fascinated by you for
a very long time. Thanks.
I'm just, I just. I've never seen anybody that
can, you know, do so many thingsat the same time.
I mean, you've got the Rockets, you got the cars.
I've always wanted to ask you, what is it like inside your mind
like this? Is it just 1000 miles an hour?
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I mean, are you? Yeah.
Is it just not. I mean, does does it ever stop?
Do you sleep? How much do you sleep?
What's? David.
Paint us a picture of inside of of the mind, of of a genius.
Like how do you? Can you answer that question?
It's not an easy question, yeah.I mean, my mind is a storm.
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Yeah, so it's a storm, but but Imean, let me maybe tell you
something like you're going to ask the question.
But but I, I think it's worth kind of nonetheless, maybe just
just elaborating or something, which is, you know, I grew up in
in South Africa and but my morality was informed by
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America. I read comic books, you know,
play Dungeons and Dragons and, and I watched American TV shows
and it it like it seemed like America cared about being the
good guys, you know, about doingthe right thing.
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And and and that's actually pretty unusual, by the way.
It's like it's. Like in the world, it's very
unusual. Yeah, it's not like actually.
Those countries don't do that. No, they don't.
No. And so I was like, yeah, you
know, you, you want to be this good, you want to be on the side
of good, you want to care about what's right.
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And, and yeah, so that's, that's, yeah, what I believe in,
you know, so. I gave you, I gave you a tough
one at the end. Yeah.
So yeah. That's great.
That's great, Elon Musk. All right, Thank you.
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Thank you so much. All right.
Hi, Chris. All right, Hey.
Guys. Thank you.
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