Musk’s Wisconsin Town Hall: Politics, Government Waste, and AI

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Hey everybody, welcome back to the Elon Musk Podcast.
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I'm your host, Will Walden. Hi everybody, welcome back to
the show. Today's episode is an
interesting one. This originally aired about 5

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months ago and it's Elon Musk talking in Green Bay, WI at a
town hall event. He takes numerous questions,
answers things about Doge, Tesla, etcetera.
I just think it's a really interesting interview, so take a
listen, see you next time. All right.

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I love you guys too so well, thank you for coming out in
support of this very important Supreme Court race in Wisconsin.
It's it's actually something that I think it's it's it's one
of those things that may seem like it's obviously important in

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the in the state of Wisconsin, but I think it could actually be
important for the country as well and and maybe for the
world. So, so the, you know, so the the
House majority right now is razor thin.
It's really just a few seats. And if, if, if the Supreme Court

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is able to redraw the districts,they will, they will gerrymander
the districts and deprive Wisconsin of two House seats on
the Republican side. Yeah, exactly.
The result of that could be thatthe House switches to a
Democratic House. Yes, indeed.

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And then they will try to stop all of the government reforms
that we are we are doing and we're getting done for you, the
American people. So, so the reforms that that
we're getting done in DC thanks to President Trump and his great

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team are, are really profound. Really the goal is very simple.
It's to restore merit and freedom.
So that's, that's what it comes down to.
So America is the land of, of, of freedom and opportunity.

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So we want to, we want to restore individual freedoms,
freedom of speech, just in general, get the government off
your back. So, and, and then make sure that
you succeed in in the United States as a function of your
hard work and your talent and nothing else.

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So these are, these are really noble and important principles.
And, and also, and I'll talk about more about this, you know,
all night really as much as longas you guys want to hear about
it. But but as as you may be, as you
may have seen with stuff that we've posted on the doge.gov
website and the Doge handle on the X platform, there is a

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tremendous amount of waste and fraud in the federal government.
Like shocking really. It's it's insane.
Yeah, it's really wild. So like, I mean, it was
inevitable that at least a few Soros operatives would be in the

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audience. Give my regards to George.
Say hi to George from being US AUSAUSAUSA.

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Yep. I mean, it was inevitable.
I was waiting for that one. So I mean, I mean, yeah, thank
you. Thanks, guys.
Yeah. I mean, I I I mean, isn't it,
isn't it shocking how much violence and hatred is coming

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from the left? I mean, isn't this supposed,
isn't it supposed to be the, theparty that they claim to be, the
party of empathy? And yet they're burning.
They're burning Teslas and shooting up dealerships and
calling for the death of the president and me.
I'm like, guys, you know, that'sthis is insane.

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Like, they're a total gone psycho.
I mean, it's really like, I totally understand if somebody
doesn't want to buy a product. Yeah, it's up to you.
It's a free country, you know, but you don't have to burn it
down. OK, But much.
That's somebody else's car. Leave it alone.
Thanks, guys. Yeah.

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So, man, that the arrangement level on the left is just, like
blowing my mind, frankly. I mean, I'm like, what is going
on? It's they've just lost it.
Next level I'm like it's like whoa.
And I, I sort of wonder what's, you know, the, the legacy media
is in part to blame for this andmaybe primarily to blame for

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this because, you know, you know, it's, it's really
terrible. It's like if, if they keep
calling, you know, they, they, they've called obviously called
President Trump every name in the book.
You know, there's one article that that called the president
worse than Hitler, Mussolini andStalin combined.
And like, actually President Trump sort of killed anyone.
In fact, he's very good at stopping wars, not starting

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them. So, you know, we're really very
different. Maybe we need to add some more
history lessons back in schools.I don't know.
People understand, you know whatthe difference do do they know

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what Hitler was leading us on? Did it seems they they don't.
I mean, it's just indicative of the poor quality of of education
pushed by the national Department of Education.
So, you know, we that's why we, we, we want to restore freedom
to the states to this that let the states decide on the
educational agenda and not have something pushed by a bunch of

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neo Marxists in DC. So I mean it, it is astounding
how much anti American propaganda is pushed on on on
kids today in schools. It's mind blowing.
It's like, what the Hell's goingon?
You know? So anyway, but on a full

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positive note, we, we, we have this petition like, you know, to
like sort of against activist judges because judges should be
in simply interpreting the law and not making the law.
So in appreciation for the support of people in, in signing

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this petition against activist judges, we just want judges to
be judges, you know, which is a reasonable thing to ask for.
And we're obviously seeing like some crazy stuff in, in, in DC
where, you know, it seems like the, it's like any, any federal
judge can stop any action by thepresident, the, you know, the,

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of the United States. This is insane.
Like we, we, this, this has got to stop.
It's got to stop it at the federal level and at the state
level. But let me first hand out two $1
million checks in appreciation. OK, so the first check goes to

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Nicholas Jacobs. All right.
Now I should say that the the reason, you know, the reason for

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the checks is that it's it's really just to get get
attention. It's it's like we we need to get
attention. And, and it's somewhat
inevitably when I do this, thesethings, the, you know, the, the
sort of, it causes the legacy media to like kind of lose their
minds and, and, and then, and then they'll, they'll run it on
every news channel. And I'm like, I, I couldn't pay

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them to the, it would cost like 10 times more or, you know, it's
to get the kind of coverage thatwe get.
So all right, all right. All right, all right.

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You can just I guess take it if you want.
We'll get we'll get I think we'll get you a real one too.
So and then the second one, second one is to Ek Katarina
Diesler. Let's see hopefully here.

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So, well, and you know, like I said, this is helpful for
getting getting attention. And then like, it's kind of fun
to see the legacy media lose their minds over it too.
So love you too. So, yeah, so sweet.

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Hello. OK, congratulations.
All right, all right, congratulations.

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So, all right, so we're also going to be announcing, we are
announcing now a program, a sortof a, a get out the vote
program. That's the web page should be
going live I think around now, which is at the America Pack
website or just go to the America Pack X account.

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And the single biggest challenge, I think is actually
just making people aware that there is this very important
election. And there's both the, the very
important election for Judge Schimmel as well as the deciding
on, on adding voter ID to the Wisconsin, Wisconsin
Constitution, which is very, very important.

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So it's, it's really, it's quiteshocking that that I mean, you
can sort of tell where voter fraud is happening, where they
ban ID. You know, like, why would you
ban ID? Like in New York and California,
it's like illegal to show ID at an election.
Well, why would, I can't imaginewhy that would be the case.

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So, so two really important things is, is really just ensure
judicial integrity on Tuesday. And, and then the, the voter ID
thing and you know, it's April Fool's Day.
So, and it is, it's, it's like, like most people aren't, like I

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said, most people aren't aware that there is this this
important election, but most people don't even know that
there's an election at all. And, or if they do, they aren't
sure exactly when and where it is.
And they aren't sure yet of, or that they don't realize just how
important it is. They think it's, well, it's
just, you know, some kind of judicial thing that's not that

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important, but it actually what they're doing.
What's happening on Tuesday is avote for the, the which party
controls the US House of Representatives?
That is why it is so, so significant.
And whichever party controls theHouse, you know, it, it, it to a
significant degree controls the country, which then steers the

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course of Western civilization. So it's like, I, I feel like
this is one of those things thatthat may not seem that it's
going to affect the entire destiny of humanity, but I think
it will. Yeah.
So it's, it's a super, it's a super big deal.

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And, and the fact that I'm here in person, like I'm not phoning
it in. I'm here in person.
I'm. And they're, yeah, so, and
there, there were quite a few death threats.
I have to tell you, I was like, my security team said it.

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Well, it's, it's actually gone down from yesterday to today.
It went down from 18,000 to 17,000.
So I'm like, maybe it's getting better, you know, but you can
see like, is it how crazy some of these people are?
You know, look, look at the, the, the two sort of people that
tried to assassinate President Trump.
You know, I mean, I was and what, you know, they both almost

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succeeded. So it's, it's real.
Like it's not like some imaginary thing.
So anyway, So what, what we're announcing is, is kind of like
a, a block captain program wheresomebody can sign up to knock on
doors in their zip code and encourage people to, to well,

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make people aware that there is a vote and then aware of how
important the vote is. So you can sign up to be a kind
of a block captain for your zip code on the America Pack website
right now. Yeah.
And if you do, it's it's like basically 20 bucks for just
taking a photo with somebody. It's pretty straightforward.

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Just knock on doors in your neighborhood and, and, and give
them either a digital or a paper, you know, picture of, you
know, Justice Brad Schumel. It, it can be an approximation.
It doesn't have to be exact, Butand and they just have to say
thumbs up and hold a picture of of Judge Schumel and that's it.

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And you get $20 sounds. It's pretty easy, it's easy
money. So, but the the whole point of
it is just to make people aware of the election and and say that
there is an election. It's on Tuesday and it's super
important. Please vote.

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But I think without something like this where we actually are
in serious danger of losing the election.
This is very important to put put in mind if you if you look
at the betting market odds. So if you look at sort of the
Polymarket or Kalchery, but likethe betting markets, it varies
between 85% and 90% probability of loss for Justice Schimmel.

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That's the current situation. So we got to we got to pull a
rabbit out of the hat mixed level.
It's good. We've actually got to have a
steady stream of rabbits out of the hat like it's an arc of
rabbits flying through the air and and landing in a Bony booth.
Interesting picture. Carac could probably make that

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picture. So that's that's basically
what's needed is, is, is we needto generate an anomaly in the
matrix. And because I think there's
currently the there, the dens are 100,000 votes ahead.
But if actually, if just if the people that voted for President
Trump simply vote on Tuesday, wewill win.

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That's actually all it takes. Just vote, boom, done victory.
So, so we're basically to to drag net the state.
It's like everybody's going to mobilize everywhere like crazy

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for the next 48 hours. And I I think this will be
important for the future of civilization.
It's that significant. So you don't hear me saying that
very often. It's it's a big deal.
So vote for judge Supercharged Schimmel.

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I call it supercharged Schimmel.So.
Let's see. So with that, I think we can do
some do Q&A if you guys would like to do some Q&A.

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And I'm happy to answer any questions that could be, you
know about those or whatever you'd like to hear about.
Because I think if you ask questions that the public would
be interested in hearing, then you know, those are those
snippets will go all over the place and it will be helpful to
the the public, you know, at at large and maybe even beyond,

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beyond our country. So let's see.
Yeah, go ahead. We can just start over there.

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As AI gets continues to get smarter, won't it inevitably see
through its traders propaganda? Yeah.
The question is, as AI gets smarter, will it see through its
creator's propaganda? I I hope so.
I think you can sort of think ofan AI as it is somewhat nurtured

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by its creator. So you have to say what what is
the operating principle? What, what is, what is the, what
is the North Star of the AI? You know, if it's somewhat
corporate AI, it could be like it's just trying to make
corporations happy. Or it could be, you know, if

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it's particularly some of the AIS that, that are trained in,
like the city of San Francisco, it's going to have kind of a San
Francisco bias to it. Because you can think of like
smart people as well as like, you know, there are big
differences in, in sort of beliefs among smart people.
And so you can expect that therewill be big differences in
beliefs among AIS as well. With Grok, our aspiration is a

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maximally truth seeking AI, which is like you always want to
try to get as close to the truthas possible, even if the truth
is unpopular. And that's our goal, which I
think is a very important goal. Hey, nice shirt.

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Thank you. First of all, Path of Exile for
life, but more importantly as wesee the the whole world has
turned to a fear based mobilization effort.
And we've seen that translate into violence and, and the
right's not immune to it becauseit can hit psychology.
How do we beat that with optimism?
Because that's going to be. Crucial to avoid.

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Mass eruption of conflict. Yeah, I mean that this needs to
be, you're right that the, the the right is not immune from
sort of hate and violence. It's not like nothing, but it it
does seem weirdly heavily weighted towards the left.
I mean, like I haven't seen anyone tearing off like a, a

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Biden Harris hat like or just like you feel a bit sorry for
them. Like, oh, maybe I'm wrong there,
you know, but, but, but you see people tearing off mega hats and
somebody just, you know, I saw avideo just as just just today
where somebody was just on, on an escalator.
Woman was on an escalator wearing a Maggie hat and someone
going the other direction tore the hat over her head.

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I'm like, what? That's, that's rude, you know,
So in, in fact, I sort of find myself in a strange position
because I, I didn't think of myself as right.
I thought myself as centrist, but then the left went all the
other way in the other directionand now everyone's a Nazi.
You know, boy, you know it. And I'm like, wait a second, do

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you know what that means? Obviously not so.
But yeah, I mean, I think, you know, I believe in peaceful
discourse and that, you know, wemake arguments, verbal arguments
and and the people decide which way they want to go.

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But we, you know, we don't engage in sort of shouting
people down or, or violence or burning things or shooting
things. That's what, that's how
democracy is supposed to work. It's peaceful discourse.
My question is about USAID. Has the Doge team found any

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evidence that any of the radicalleft Democrats like Maxine
Waters, Adam Schiff, Chuck Schumer have received money
directly from USAID? And if so, will we be hearing
about that evidence anytime soon?
Yeah. So the, the, there is a massive

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amount of corruption, but but it, it is circuitous.
So what happens is there's moneythat obviously it's your
taxpayer money that, that is then sent to various government
organizations who then send it to, to NGOs, which, which an NGO
is a non governmental organization.
But obviously if it's a government funded non
governmental organization, it's just an organization, it's just

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a government. And effectively there's a giant
fraud loophole, which is that the, the government can send
money to an NGO that is then no longer governed by the law laws
of the United States. So they'll, they'll send the
money overseas to one NGO, then they'll go through a bunch of a
bunch of them. And then I'm highly confident
that a bunch of that money then comes back to the United States

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and lands in the pockets of the people you just mentioned.
But it isn't circuitous route. It's not like it, it, it doesn't
go directly, but let's just say that there's a lot of strangely
wealthy members of Congress where I'm I just can't I, I'm
trying to connect the dots of how do they become rich while

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earning? How do they get 20 million if
they're earning 200,000 a year? Sounds that's not how nobody can
explain that. So, so, so something's yeah,
we're, we're going to try to figure it out and, and and
certainly stop it from happening.
So, yeah, I mean, just in general, this, this the, the

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whole NGO scam is, is just crazy.
And yeah, it's, it's, it's blownmy mind really.
So yeah. Most of us here are aware of
social media censorship, and I know you're keenly aware of it.
Thank you for turning around X. Awesome.

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As censorship picks up in financial institutions, what can
you do about that? Are you referring to offering
financial services by X? No, I'm sorry being.
Kicked off of financial. Or beliefs.
Yeah. Yeah, Well, certainly that won't
happen during the Trump administration.

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Hopefully that can be enshrined.And Lowell, which is part of the
reason why we need a Republican Congress.
So you didn't see any Republicans kicking Democrats
out and de banking Democrats, but there were a lot of
Republicans that were de banked thousands, which is really
outrageous. So.

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So I think it does seem kind of 1 sided.
You know, this like trying to ruin people's lives and
financially and and violent protests overwhelmingly is
coming from the left these days.You know, it's like, and whereas
the right is polite, you know, and fair as far as I can tell.
So yeah, go ahead. Thank you for being here.

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Your comment kind of about the Matrix is kind of ironic because
my husband and I watched first the first Matrix in the sequel
yesterday. My question is when so much of
social media nowadays, you know,whether it be X or YouTube or
whatever is kind of curated to like your purse, a person's

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particular beliefs or even wherewe have protesters that show up
to town halls or or potentially are paid.
How do you does America kind of come together?
And it used to be where you could have a conversation and
have discourse like you discussed and still be friends

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even if you disagree with kind of some of their statements.
When you talk about knocking on doors, like to different
people's house, Like one kind offear that I have is like, even
if you talk to somebody, everybody has their own sets of
beliefs and their own truths. So I guess how do you get

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through that? Yeah.
Well, I think what we saw there for quite a while was that all
of the legacy media and all of the new social media were in
lockstep together and they were all parroting the same left wing
talking points. And they were suppressing any
dissent and any, any so-called right wing or frankly even

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centrist views. And with that's why I felt it
was it was critical to acquire Twitter now X in order to enable
that quick dialogue. So it's it's it's only a step in
the right direction. And I think you're seeing now
once X was willing to to break ranks and not censor

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Republicans, then you you saw others also started moving that
direction. You know, it, it looks like, for
example, Facebook and Meta, you know, yeah.
Is they they if certainly Mark Zuckerberg has stated that they
will be doing a sort of community notes based on the

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community notes of the X platform and and and as opposed
to having sort of far left censorship Bureau, this sort of,
you know, the work Stasi essentially reviewing things.
So that's the step in the right direction.
You know, there's there's some maybe some hope for the CNNS of

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the world. There's like with, with, with
Scott being on there, he's great.
You know, he's like, but I, I mean, I'm sort of hopeful that
things that are, are moving in, in the direction where different
points of view are espoused on or, or, you know, heard on
legacy media and, and social media.

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So I'm, I, I guess maybe I'm actually a little bit optimistic
about the future. And, you know, on the X
platform, you know, we, we don'tprioritize and, you know, one
side or the other, we try to be as fair as possible.
And I will reply to, you know, prominent Democrats, even if

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they sort of say terrible thingsabout me.
So, you know, it's like, yeah, we should have this discourse.
And so I, I kind of think at least on the media front, things
go in a good direction. But on the but, but I, but I am

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kind of perturbed by the sort ofhow aggressive these protests
are. You know, where it's it's like,
you know, there are people at these protests calling for the
death of the president and deathof me and I don't know, probably
death of others. You know that that's not, that's
the kind of thing that's not, not cool.

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You know, at the risk of saying something outrageous, calling
for murder is not cool. Yeah.
So thanks for coming, Elon. I'm a teacher by trade.

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I have gone through the four year bachelor degree to teach
the nation's youth going forwardon that.
Yeah. Actually, I'm kind of curious.
What was that life like? Yeah, well, I got an English
degree, man. At the end of the day, unless
you want to hire me, that's about, you know, that's OK.

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Sure. So during teacher college, they
give us a heat map and it says these are the cost per head on
each student. The South SE is generally the
worst, but they're also generally the lowest spent per
capita on each student. Beyond just that correlation of

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the one text I got in an education class.
I wonder with your investments in Khan Academy, with the
advancement of AI educational tools, where specifically you
can get feedback and these students can get feedback.
Yeah, absolutely. Where do we see 100 years from
now? Oh, man, 100 years from now?

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About 50. I hope we last 100 years.
I've got a jackpot, you know? Yeah, exactly.
Hopefully we hopefully we were like on Mars, you know, so that
would be really cool. So I, I do think AI can be
incredibly helpful in teaching because you can, you can

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essentially set up each kid withlike a personalized AI and that
that AI can then answer questions for each kid.
And that actually can be very profound in learning because
obviously if you, if you've got a classroom of say 2530 kids,
it's, you can't like spend, it'sliterally impossible to spend
time with every kid individually.

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Or at least you can spend a little bit of time, but not
obviously it's, it's a 1 to 21 to 30 ratio.
So, but I, but what you can do is, is you can set them up with
the AI and then you can, you know, if things get stuck or, or
whatever, if, if, if you want to, you can, you can essentially
guide the orchestra that way. And I think it could be a very
powerful learning tool. You know, I personally enjoyed

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my English classes in high school.
Actually, you know, they sometimes I wondered, why am I
reading Charles Dickens? But, you know, there's some
merit to reading Dickens. And many of the I actually think
that we should have a great Canon of English literature
that, that, that kids do at least, you know, some number of

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the significant works in the English language.
So. I mean this, yeah, it seems like
very obvious to me, but yeah. And, and another thing with
regard to teaching is that I think teaching is a very

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important profession. If you look at the expenditures,
there's a very big rise in the number of administrators, but
but not a very big rise in the number of teachers.
And so that's, that's really thebig factor, which is we, we
should have more actual teachers, you know, and, and I,
I believe in paying teachers well and, and having a lot of, a

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lot of teachers, but we should say, why do we have so many
administrators or, or non teachers?
So administrative expense has gone ballistic, but teaching
expenses is more or less flat. Doesn't make sense.
So. First, I would like to apologize
if you're going to have to America for the idiots you have
to deal with, for what you're doing for us to improve our

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country. Second of all, my question is
what is your opinion on the Federal Reserve and do you have
any intentions of doing anythingwith?
That and the Fed. Yeah.
I don't know. I always wanted to say that, you
know, but, but I mean, I think there's like 20,000 people that

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work at the Fed seems pretty high.
It's like there's a lot of people that work at the Fed on
us things like, why do we have so many people at this at, at
the Fed and what do they do? And you know, sometimes I wonder
which one would win, you know, the federal for interest rates,
the, the federal, the board of the Federal Reserve or a Magic 8
ball. And I'm like, I think the Magic

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8 ball might win, you know, So then I'm like, well, imagine
April's a lot cheaper. So, you know, it's like you
shake it, it says check back again later.
I'm like, OK, same thing. But but I think we, we, we, we,

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we. What really matters is that the
government spending, it is, is not far in excess of government
revenue. That's a fundamental issue that
we have where the, we have a debt, a deficit of $2 trillion
and we have interest payments that now exceed the entire

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budget of the military. In fact, that that was a big
wake up call for me was when the, the amount of money that
we're paying national debt interest exceeded the Defense
Department budget. I'm like Defense Department
budget is very big and interest is higher than that and, and,
and climbing. That's a disaster, you know, so

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the, the very simple, straightforward goal of, of the
doge team is to get rid of wasteand forward.
It's it's mostly waste. It's, it's or depending on how
you know, I'd say it's probably 80% waste, 20% forward,
something like that. But it's a trillion dollars.
So that's a little lie. And it's, it's, you know, it's
got to, you know, it's got to be.

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We, we got the, the another source sleeper agent there
USAUSAUSAUSA. So I mean to, to be clear, the,

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the, the very simple thing we'redoing and we, we post everything
publicly on the doge website, which is, it's just to look at
every expense and say, is this actually a good use of your
taxpayer dollars? That's it.
It's not it's not super complicated.

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And, and, and the thing that's that's pretty well.
This is why I like, I say like, you know, I used to be a
Democrat like and so like, and, and if you listen to the, the,
the speeches of Clinton and Gorein in the 90s when they, they
were going on about reducing waste and fraud, it literally
you wouldn't be able to tell thedifference if like who said it,

(37:25):
Doge or Clinton, Gore, you can'teven tell the difference sounds
exactly the same. It's wild.
So we're, we're, we're really just trying to restore common
sense to government and say like, let's not waste your money
and let's make sure it's spent well.
And, and that's it. And in, in trying to save a
trillion dollars of expenditures, what we're seeing

(37:45):
is off the 7 trillion in, in government spending, let's try
to see, let's see if we can makeit 15%, one 5% more efficient.
And I'm confident that we can. That's actually not a huge bar,
by the way. So, and, and when you see the

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when you see the crazy things that the government is spending
money on, you can see a list of some of them.
You know, it's like, I don't know if we should be spending
money on transgender comic booksin Peru.
That doesn't seem like an ideal thing to spend your money on.
You know, why would we do that? If if somebody in Peru wants to
do that of their own accord, that's fine.

(38:32):
But it should be your money thatdoes it.
So it's, it's just and you know,we shouldn't be paying rent on
empty buildings. And you know, if, if, if people,
if I do think there is a role for government, but, but if we
just need to make, we're just going, we're just going through
and saying and doing what I would call like an, an excellent
and, and, and necessary and reasonably trusted review of, of

(38:57):
organizations and, and personnel.
So is this, is this person doinga good job?
Great? Is the role necessary?
If so, that's good. And are they reasonably trusted,
meaning they're not a psycho, like we're not talking about
like political affiliation, justthat they're not crazy.
So you know, what's wrong with that?

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I'm like, sounds super normal tome.
So that's it. Now, in this process, one of the
things that we've discovered, which is I think on the fraud
side, which is a really big deal, is that the Democrat

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administration, Biden administration, has basically
taken every arm of the of the USgovernment and bent it towards
creating a financial incentive for illegal immigrants to come
to the United States. Now this is every part of the
government, so like Social Security, Medicaid, unemployment
insurance, disability, even the IRS.

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So you, you can like file out a fake tax return and say you you
need a, a tax, a tax. Maybe I shouldn't tell people
this, but it'll actually work. I mean, mostly there's some
chance you'll get caught, but you can actually file out a fake
tax return. You can, you can just get a tax
refund even though if you didn'tpay taxes so.
We're, we're trying to stop all these things, say like, OK,

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well, let's stop the waiting forit.
And, and we also need to turn off the massive financial
incentive for illegals to count the United States and, and stay
in the United States. And this is really the thing
that is causing the Democrats tolose their mind, you know,
because they're, they're actually spending at this point
10s of billions to attract and retain illegals in the United

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States. It's, it's really on that scale.
It's a gigantic number and the goal is to turn all the swing
states blue. That means Wisconsin.
So that's the goal. So with the asylum program, if
they can get a green card withina year and then they can get

(41:10):
citizenship as quickly as four years after getting a green card
because the first year of being asylum, being asylum counts for
the five year citizenship waiting period.
So this is this is a very big deal.
So a number of friends of mine have actually joined the
government and in order to help with this process and I'd like

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to welcome my friend Antonio Gracias to the to the stage.
Hi, so does it work? I didn't give you mine.
Does it work? It'll be OK.

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I mean, Paz Aldrin's still aliveand he's he went past the belts.
Work. Is this working?
Yeah, it's not. Yeah, there we go.
So Antonio, can you tell us whatwhat you Antonio's helping out
with the Social Security? So just trying to review Social
Security where you may have heard that we found 20 million
dead people mocked as alive in the Social Security database.

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This is too so crazy. And then you'll notice there's a
strange trend here where how many Social Security numbers
were issued? It it's do you want to?
Yeah. So let me, let me tell you what
happened here. We we started at the top of the
system. Can we talk about a lot of.
We started at the top of the system mapping the whole system

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in Social Security to understandwhere all the fraud was.
And there's a lot of great people there that showed us in
really a lot of waste. And so that came up with a big
list of stuff they're working on.
You've heard from that already, but this is what jumped out at
us when we saw these numbers. We were like what is this in 21?
You see 270,000 people goes all the way to 2.1 million in 24.

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These are non citizens that are getting Social Security numbers.
Yeah, this this is a mind blowing chart.
Yeah, just this, this literally blew us away.
Like we went there to find fraudand we found this by accident.
And this isn't political, by theway.
My parents are immigrants. Yeah, this has been great to us.

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My brothers and sister, all bornin Spain.
I'm pro legal immigration. This is not, this is not
political. This is not political.
This is about America and the future of America, and there are
a lot of good people in the system that pointed this in this
direction. I want to, I want to honor them
right now that work in the government today who took risks
to show us these numbers and tell us what's going on.

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I want to stop for a minute. I want to, I want to honor those
people today. Very good people, very good
people. I have been from DC to Social
Security offices to the border to track this down and very good
people have helped us along the way.
I want to thank them. Yeah.
This number, what this is, is when you come in the country, if

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you're an illegal, there's a couple ways to come in.
You come in through a port of entry and you can tell them
you're afraid and you'll get they'll give you an asylum,
asylum case, you'll get an interview, then you get in.
That's one way to do it. Another way to do it is to just
go to the border. Literally this happened.
I talked to Border Patrol myself.
Elon was there too. I went to Laredo and I went to
Brownsville. Elon with evil pass.

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You walk up to a border portal officer and you tell them you
want to come in. They have a couple of choices.
They could charge you with a misdemeanor or a felony under
1325, or they can make an administrative offense like a
parking ticket. Basically they were told to do
that, make an administrative offense on the last
administration and then you willwalk across the border.
They do what's called a releasing your own recognizance

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and they give you an NTA notice to appear, which appear to
judge. The wait times on judges are
like average six years. Look at Grok.
You'll see it on immigration judges.
There's only 700 of them. This is 5.5 million people.
OK, So what happens then? Once you're in the country and
you got asylum through one of these pathways and we map the
whole thing out, you can apply for a work document.

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You file A765, it's the work form.
You get this form called the 766.
That's the authorization. And then Social Security
Administration automatically send you in the mail your social
street number. No interview, no ID.
This is worth like just reiterating it.
It it's not that it's not. People sometimes think that
under the Biden administration that that he was simply asleep

(45:36):
with the switch. He wasn't asleep.
They weren't asleep with the switch.
It it it was a massive large scale program to import as many
illegals as possible, ultimatelyto change the entire voting map
of the United States and disenfranchise the the American
people and make it a permanent deep blue one party state from
which there would be no escape. Look, if I hadn't seen this

(45:57):
myself, I'm not sure I believed it.
I went through it myself and mapped it.
And Ivan is right, this is true.The defaults in the system from
Social Security to all of the benefit programs have been set
to Max inclusion, Max pay for these people and minimum
collection. That's what's happening.
We found 1.3 million of them already on Medicaid as an
example. We've gone through on every

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benefit program we went through.We found groups from this
particular group of people, this5.5 million people in those
benefit programs. And then what was really, really
disturbing us was why we're asking ourselves why.
And so we actually just took a sample and looked at voter
registration records and we found people here registered to
vote in this population. Yes.

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And who did vote? And and we found some by
sampling that actually did vote.And we have referred them to
prosecution at the Homeland Security Investigation Service
already. Already.
That has already happened right now.
Yeah. And the truly disturbing thing,
though, I just want you to know this a truly disturbing thing to
me and the darkest thing about this to me, the voter fraud is

(47:03):
terrible, but the human tragedy that's created is extraordinary
because what you don't understand and people don't
know, and Americans need to know, that's why I'm here.
Is it human traffickers made 13 to $15 billion off of this.
OK. That's the money that's going
around the world, moving people around the world to our borders
because of these incentives. How does it work?

(47:25):
What happens, hey, if you're in Africa and you're in South
America, you've got to walk up through Mexico and through this
America. Who do you pay?
You pay the narcos, you pay the traffickers, right?
And we found, we were told by ICE, it's between 20,000 and 500
bucks, depends where they pick you up to walk across all those
countries and get all the way upto the border.
Where's that money goes? It goes to the cartels.

(47:46):
It goes to human traffickers, right?
There are 30,000 children that have not appeared on a notice to
appear already. ICE knows this, 30,000 children,
270,000 children didn't even getnotices to appear.
ICE told us the kids are being trafficked back and forth across
the border to complete themes tomake this easier.
This is a human tragedy. It's not just the money, it's

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the people and the kids and how many of these people died on the
way up here. It didn't make it in what
happened to them. We created a system here that
created a descendant for people to come and be taking advantage
of by these traffickers. And how do you think they get
paid? Well, you're an African, Central
American. You got $20,000 or $10,000 or
$5000 to pay these traffickers. No, you don't.

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What happens? You come in, then you owe them
the money. You're an indentured serving.
You don't pay them. What happens?
What do they do? They kill your mother, they kill
your brother, they kill your family.
What happens next? That's what we discovered.
And I have to tell you, it was, it's tragic to me.
The tragedy, the human tragedy this created is extraordinary.

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That's the real problem. This is America.
We don't do this here in America.
Yeah, we don't do this here in America.
People come here legally and that's great.
Elon came here legally. My parents came here legally.
That's the way to do it. This is this is outrageous.

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Yeah, it's, it's, it's pretty wild.
I mean, you can see because there's still actually a lot of
people out there, especially in the sort of center third of the
country that that somehow think this is made-up by the right or
it's like some fiction. It's not that it's somehow not
true, but it is, it isn't. It is absolutely true.
And you can see that if, if you,if you like, you know, look at

(49:39):
things like the state of New York, which tried to make it
legal for, for, for illegal immigrants to vote in the state
of New York. That was only shot down by the
New York Supreme Court a few weeks ago and and California has
made it healthcare available to all illegals in the state.

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And they initially claimed that it would only cost 3 billion.
It's now 9 billion and climbing.So it's, it's really, if you
create a massive financial incentive for people to come to
the United States illegally, then that's what they will do.
It's it's a very sort of, it'd be stranger.
It'd be odd if that didn't happen.

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So the the really the thing thatis actually has the Democrats
losing their mind. By far the real reason for these
attacks and and sort of the burning of the cars and
everything is that we're going to turn off the payments to
illegals because.

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Yeah, I mean, because that's notthe deal, You know, it's there,
there. It's, you know, it's not, it's
not, it's simply not right. And, you know, if, if you look
at that thing with the RooseveltHotel and like, you know, the
luxury hotels in New York where the Federal Emergency Management

(51:10):
Agency funds were being used to to house illegals in luxury
hotels in New York that the average American can't afford.
And they were given a welcome package and $10,000 debit cards
and everything else. Like it's, it's super real.
I mean, it's, it's like it's, it's, it's in my, I think it's
the, the, the biggest voter fraud thing in history by far.

(51:38):
And, and more of a, if, if left unchecked, it would have
succeeded. As Antonio mentioned, the the
time frame for going from asylumto citizen is roughly 5 years.
And so all of the people that came in on that chart that you
saw, if, if the if the machine behind the Kamala puppet had

(51:59):
one, then you know, they change out the puppet, but it's the
same machine, then they would have actually legalized all
those people and there would be no swing states.
And who added more? Remember it was doubling every
year. Yes, it went from 1,000,000.
It was it was going ballistic. Going ballistic and it, it is,

(52:19):
it is just these people are justending the, the, the benefit
programs now, by the way, we're seeing the ramp happen too.
And these are just the ones thatare in the system.
This doesn't count the other, you know, seven and a half, 8
million that ICE thinks are out there.
We don't know if they have numbers.
The number is totally uncontrolled.
The voter ID requirement in the state is super important because
of this, because the Social Security number, it's not

(52:40):
supposed to be a federal ID number, but basically is.
That's how you access all the benefits.
This is why we need voter ID because this thing is not
secure. You could walk into a Social
Security office today, today is an adult America and get a
Social Security number enumerated with simply a
answering six or seven simple questions and showing some some
forms of ID that are not federalID.

(53:02):
Well, you can just actually makeit up.
Basically you could, you could show basically like like a fake
utility bill or you know. A medical bill and a school ID.
Yeah, medical bill and a school ID and you can get a Social
Security number. And then from there you get on
the border rolls and then the basic Dem operatives will follow
the vote. So, you know, the problem with

(53:24):
this obviously is that if you turn the swing states blue, then
there are no swing states. And then we're in a permanent
one, one party system. And as soon as they win that,
they'll have the House, the Senate, the presidency, they'll
pack the Supreme Court. Then they'll, they'll double
down on, on the illegals, just like California.
So we're like, we've already seen this happen in California.

(53:48):
California super majority Dem. So but at least California is
held back by the fact that people can move out of state.
Once you can no longer leave America, they will be, they'll
be far worse than California. So the gravity of the situation
is severe. What close to clean up Wisconsin

(54:09):
border rolls yes, absolutely. So I mean, it's really simple
stuff just, you know, having, you know, photo ID to vote is
like you can't like buy something at the liquor store,
but voting is a lot is more important than, you know, buying

(54:30):
a beer. So you're.
Gonna need a real ID on an airplane.
Yeah, yeah, you have to play anywhere.
Yeah. And, and and like the same
people who said who are saying that there should be no voter ID
at at voting stations demanded vaccine, vaccine ID from
everyone. Like, that's weird, you know,

(54:50):
So, so it's, it's, it's really about just restoring integrity
to the voting system, which really should not be a right or
left course, but a course for all is do we do we not all want
integrity in the voting system? Of course we do, yes.
Of course, yes. So so so you're welcome to hang

(55:18):
out and see maybe some questionshere.
We'll, let's see. We'll go.
Hi, Elon. I also, I am a teacher.
I was a teacher in Colorado for eight years, high school
Spanish. But I moved, I moved here last
year and got to vote in Wisconsin, where my vote
actually mattered. And I'm so glad.
That was amazing that we got Trump elected.

(55:41):
Yeah. And I was listening to you.
I believe it was Patrick Bett, David.
He called this perfectly where he said when Elon or when, when
Trump gets elected, he's going to go from enemy #1 to Elon's

(56:02):
going to be number #1 and for the reason, I mean, he only has
a couple years left. And we've all seen the, the left
go after you and make you #1 enemy.
And just walking in here, we heard Nazis suck.
There's all this horrible thing.And just on a, on a serious

(56:24):
note, I just want to let you know my wife and I pray for you
at night. Thank you for your safe.
Who? Guys, I, I got, I got to wash my
hand gestures these days, you know, but I, I think this one's

(56:44):
safe, you know, you know, it's like can't wave to the crowd,
you know, we don't know what'll happen.
And I've been a fan of yours foroh, like a decade and I've been
a walking Tesla ad to anybody who talks to me, even though I
never had a Tesla until I came to Wisconsin too.

(57:05):
And it's 10 years old, but it's the best Model S I've ever had.
It's incredible. Thank you.
But I, I just wanted to take to ask you if they would be OK.
I brought my dad with me, he's apastor and I just thought if
it's OK with you, I would love for him to say a prayer for you
as well for your protection. Thank you.

(57:34):
Elon, well, thank you so much for everything you've done for
our country. We we do love you very much.
Thank you and. And as a pastor, but just as a
person, right. And even if I wasn't a
Christian, and I know not everyone here is a Christian,
but I think there's quite a few of you here and who, who are

(57:54):
either way, we, we love all, allpeople.
It's that's not the issue. The issue is, is fairness.
What you're talking about the issue being just and the justice
being a weapon instead of law fair instead of actually a just
and, and all this corruption you're talking about.

(58:15):
And that's a bad spirit, if you want to say it that way, putting
it nicely. It's it's something evil that
has come against our country, our morals, our families,
etcetera. And then you and the president
and others getting attacked withthis outrage and this hate.
So if you would allow me to pray, you'd all who want to

(58:39):
please join me, bow our heads and pray.
Gracious Heavenly Father, we arethankful for our country.
We are thankful that God does bless America and that God is
the source of all goodness, loveand provision.
And that you, Lord God, have provided a great nation with a

(59:00):
great history. And although we've gone through
many rough times, you're still very present and active with us.
Thank you for protecting President Trump from that fatal
attack. And we ask that you envelope and
protect all of those who are fighting for justice, for

(59:21):
freedom. For order for.
Dignity and to reward people according to merit and
especially put your head, your protection around Elon Musk,
around his children, around his whole entire family and all of
his team members that all would do good and just by our country

(59:44):
and freedom truly and justice would reign once again.
We ask this in the name of the blessed Savior Jesus Christ, who
we remember during this time of year, who suffered and died for
our sins. May you wash away all that is
wrong with our country and startwith us.
We ask this in Jesus name, Amen.Amen.

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Thank you. Thank you very much.
Thank you. OK, see you you can hang out if

(01:00:28):
you want. Well, that was that was
beautiful. That was beautiful.
So I think we're going to need divine protection, frankly.
Yeah. Hey, Elon, I'd.
Like to start off by thanking you for all that you've done for
our country and the world at a Greater Hall.

(01:00:50):
And I mean that from the bottom of my heart as well.
I have a question for you as yougo about your decision making at
Doge. How are you able to keep your
moral North star and not set precedents when it comes to
overstepping democratic processes simply because then
justifies the means and have outcomes similar to the last
election with Democratic presidential candidate being

(01:01:11):
appointed without due process that just further polarizes the
country. Also on a side note, one more
thing, Do you see a place in thelong term for decentralized
technology and society and government?
Yeah, I mean, to answer the second question first, I think
generally it's good to have decentralized systems because

(01:01:34):
the more centralized something is, the more the more power that
is in anyone single entity, the more corruption you're likely to
have. So decentralization I think is
good to minimize corruption. Then with respect to doge, I
mean, as I said, it's it's it's we're trying to be as literal as

(01:01:58):
possible. It just, it's department of
Government efficiency. And it's just literally going
through and saying, OK, this money was spent.
Is it money that most Americans would agree is sensible or is it
not? And you know, if it doesn't seem
sensible, then we, you know, say, well, we shouldn't spend

(01:02:19):
that money anymore. We should and we should, we
should stop it. So, and then we post the, the
we're trying to be as transparent as possible.
So all the doge actions are posted on the doge.gov website
and on the doge handle on X. So if people disagree with
something, they we can say, well, which, which part do you
disagree with? And when, when I get these sort
of attacks of like, oh, it's unconstitutional.

(01:02:41):
I mean, like, well, which expenditure is unconstitutional
that we've stopped because and then they, they don't know
actually, because they don't, they haven't actually looked at
anything. So now obviously a lot of this
can be reversed with a new administration, but at least for
some period of time, we're goingto make sure that your taxpayer
money is spent at least 15% better.

(01:03:05):
It's, it's, it's, it's not like a, you know, I think it's a
reasonable goal. It's a rational goal.
It's a sensible goal and, and the the net result, I should
say, if, if, if we have the combination of a a trillion
dollar increase in the an economic output and a trillion
dollar decrease in the, in the budget deficit, then the outcome

(01:03:28):
should be that there is no inflation or very little
inflation from one year to the next.
So at the end of next year, you get the prices will be at the
grocery store will be very similar to what they are right
now, which means that, you know,standard of living will, will,
will actually probably be higher, a little bit higher.

(01:03:50):
Whereas we've had rampant inflation to date, which
inflation is really just a pernicious tax that has been
used by governments throughout history.
It's very tempting for governments to use inflation as
a tax because it's indirect. People see the prices rising at
the grocery store or, you know, for goods and services or for

(01:04:11):
houses. And they, they tend to like
blame the store, but it's, it's not the store, it's the
government. The government has reduced the
value of money and as a result, prices rise.
So by, you know, changing by, byreducing waste and forward,
we'll essentially make the economy more efficient and we'll

(01:04:34):
shift people resources from the government to the private
sector. And that will result in an
increase in the output of goods and services.
And, and so the, the average standard of living will
therefore rise. So like they're trying to make
economics sound very complicated, but it's really not
that complicated. The standard of living increases

(01:04:58):
when the, the, when the output of goods, the average output of
goods and services increases perperson.
There's basically more stuff, therefore you have more stuff to
divide across the people. That's it.
And you can, you can run this sort of thought experiment and
say, like if it was 100 people on an island and you'd say,
well, how many people do you want farming, fishing, make and

(01:05:19):
stuff, you know, versus, you know, doing regulations.
You would say like, well, you wouldn't want like 20 people
doing regulations. You know, it'd be like, oh,
that's too many. Well, then maybe you'd want one
or two. I don't know.
Maybe not ideally 0. I mean, I'm all for a small

(01:05:40):
government, by the way. I think.
Really. Yeah.
You know, when the United Stateswas, when the United States was
formed, there were only, you know, you had the Secretary of
State, the Secretary of War, which I think is a more accurate

(01:06:00):
name than Defence. And, you know, but it was
Secretary of war for a long time, and you had secretary of
the treasury and you had the attorney general.
That was it. And if it were entirely up to
me, I'd be like, let's make it like that again.

(01:06:21):
Yeah. Hi gentlemen, I've got a quick
question regarding government and transparency.
Do you think Dogecoin may ever be used or the Dogecoin
blockchain to be used for maximum transparency?
Well, the names are similar, butthey're doing 2 very different

(01:06:42):
things. So in fact, I was going to call
it like the Government Efficiency Commission, but
that's a super boring name. And then the Internet said, no,
it needs to be called the Department of Government
efficiency. I was like, well, Internet,
that's the Internet is right. So, so we changed the name from

(01:07:02):
Government efficiency Commissionto Department of Government
Efficiency, But there are no plans for the government to use
Dogecoin or, or anything as far as I know.
So that they happen to be similar names, but, but really
it's just, we're just literally trying to make the government
15% more efficient. It's kind of like like most of
the work that's that's being done is it's kind of like

(01:07:22):
homework. It's not like it's, it's just,
it's just work. You know, it, it frankly, it's
like washing the dishes. It's, it's not like, you know,
it's, it's a lot of, it's not super fun work.
It's just, you know, going through and looking at every
expense and saying why, you know, why is this department
have like 10 times more softwarelicenses than people?

(01:07:46):
That doesn't make sense. You know what, why, why is this?
Why is the government spending $10 million a year on Politico
subscriptions? That doesn't make sense.
You know, like there's just one thing after another like that.
It's like things that are just kind of kind of boring.
So it's, it's like a ton of boring stuff.
Like you do hear about like the,the, the sort of weird stuff

(01:08:09):
that makes the headlines, but most of it, most of the costs
that are being cut are just verybasic boring things.
It's, it's a, it's a, it's like homework at scale is what I'd
call, you know, the Department of Government efficiency.
Yeah. It's a really good idea, this
question about transparency. Really selling it here.
Yeah, yeah. No, no, no.

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I, I, I would say the principlesthat you want to set out for
DOGE are they begin with truth. Truth.
Find the truth. Number one, find the truth.
Why? Because the government's gotten
so big that actually the people don't even know what's there.
They don't know the source of truth.
So these licenses, it's like people bought these licenses

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because they're bad people and they wanted to pay Microsoft.
They just kept buying licenses because Microsoft keeps selling
them from it. I mean, it's just, it's that
strange and. We don't want to pick up
Microsoft. It's like every guy, every
software company by. The way any software company
picks up company X, they they didn't, they bought these
licenses because they just thought they should buy more
licenses, more people coming in and there's no one there.
People aren't coming back to theoffice, right?
They it's just finding truth. The number one principle is

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truth. And then transparency is number
2, I think, on the list, right? So find the truth, make it
public, make it transparent and #3 is man, do it fast, make it
efficient and be urgent. Yeah.
Those those are the principles that you want to put in those.
Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's worth pointing out like, like
it's, it's actually difficult to.

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You have to recalibrate how dumbthings can be because it's the
government, you know, frankly, it's like Dumber than you think
it could possibly be. So, you know, like, for example,
there we found there were a whole bunch of what I call ghost
payments going out where the thegovernment contracting officer

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had retired or, or changed jobs or were dead or, or, I don't
know, they were not around anymore and they forgot to turn
off the payment stream to some company.
And it's, it's like leaving the,the money fostered on and you,
you know, leave the house, you know, and it's just the money
fostered keeps going. And it's a pretty rare
organization that will complain about receiving money.

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So organizations. So then you're like, is that
waste of fraud? I mean, the government didn't
send them the money, but they didn't deserve it.
So then, well, OK, we, we shouldturn off the money spigot if
they, if the contract is over, you know, type of thing.
So one of the things that we we made a recommendation to the
Treasury that that the payment classification codes and, and

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the explanation for the payment be mandatory fields.
So, so just and, and have a nameattached.
So we could just ask the person who approved the payment, is
this payment a good, a good payment?
Does this make sense? This is the kind of thing that
is, that is normal in, you know,for individuals and, and for
companies, But well, that was not the case.

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So the, the reason why the, the,the government could not pass an
audit was because the information did not exist that
it, that would be required to pass an audit.
Like it was literally impossiblebecause you just had all these
blank checks going out with no explanation and no payment code.
So how are you supposed to do anaudit?
It's literally impossible. So that's what I mean by like,

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it's very basic stuff like we just want the congressional
appropriation payment code to bemandatory and a very short
explanation. We're not even going to judge
what the explanation is, but that there'll be any explanation
at all. And a name attached is was like
revolutionary and and my guess is this will probably save $100

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billion a year, like a lot, you know, so.
Maybe they can tell those terms,Social Security information that
people like here too, which is at at Social Security
Administration, it actually had passed their audit.
Actually they've got, I don't know about 100 material
deficiency that they passed their audit.

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When we looked at the balance sheet, we found that $800
million had fallen off the balance sheet last year, $800
million. What do you mean it fell off the
balance sheet? That's exactly the question I
asked Elon. Thank you.
Where did it fall to exactly? Where did it fall to?
So I, I, I asked the auditors come in.
Like a comedy sketch comedy routine here.
Where did it go exactly? But wait, where did it go?

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Exactly. So here's what happened.
I, I, I brought, I asked the auditors, come in.
I'm we'll give the auditors comeon in.
And I asked the auditors. Partner, what did it?
What does it fell off the balance sheet mean?
Is that a gap term or not gap term?
Who's never heard that? What?
Does it mean, well, the payment plans, because under the last
administration you could pay if you owed, if you got overpaid on
Social Security, like if you had, if you're on, if you're

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getting SSI or a disability and they paid you too much money,
you got a job. I didn't tell them they paid you
too much money. They dropped that payment plan
to $10 a month Max. So the payment plans went out
past the system date. So if I remember correctly, it
was 2047 payment plans off this past system date.
When it went past the system date, literally it fell off the
system, it disappeared and the officers were supposed to

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people, the technician supposed to put notes in the in the
system that this was we collected.
The notes were so bad, the orders concluded this could not
be collected and we literally lost $800 million, OK.
And I said to the order, how could that possibly be?
And she said, well, it's not really a material, it's a one
point 5K program. I said, well, it's material of
mature money. Is it in the computer?
It's. Not on the computer.

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It fell off the computer in the computer.
It's in the computer. Disappeared $800 million Just
disappeared I. Mean it's crazy.
So there's like it's one like naughty thing after another like
that. Yeah, it's, yeah.
I mean, it's crazy. Anyway, we're just, we're just
trying to basically fix the computers so that we know what
the heck's going on. Yeah, it's just like, please.

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And like I said, being fully transparent with the American
people, so you know exactly what's going on and just making
sure that, yeah, anyway, money is not wasteful or fraudulent.
One interesting statistic was that 40% of the calls into
Social Security were fraudulent,like meaning that it was someone

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trying to get a Social Security payment that was going to a
senior to go to a instead to go to a fraud ring.
So that was almost half of the phone calls were fraudulent.
Probably the other half were people asking what happened to
my Social Security. This is true actually you.

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Know OK where did my this is bananas.
Yeah, I mean, we, we found this actually the people there at
Social Security news was going on and they had been complaining
about it for a long time and no one fixed it because.
And these were these were most in criminal rings outside the
country in other other places the world that are are jamming
up the phone systems calling in using just these simple security

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questions because you can actually this was how crazy it
was. You could change your direct
deposit information at Social Security by simply answering 6
questions on the phone, like your mother's maiden name, your
date of birth, etcetera. Stuff you can find on the
Internet. Easily found on the dark web.
That's why it was so easy. It was a huge, huge exportation,
super open door that I mean, thebank vault was open and the

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criminals ran right in and took the money and they took it away
from our seniors, right? So what happened is if like my
dad's 84, he'd go get his checkslist from the bank account
wasn't there. They didn't get a whole through
a whole process to get it the money back from the government,
which takes a long time. It's the government, right?
So we we put in a very simple 2FA system.
All this nonsense you've seen the media about.
We turned off the phone lines that are not true.

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All all we did, all they did actually we recommended to
Social Security that they put ina very simple 2FA system and
they will 2. Two factor authorization.
That's what she is. And they say kind of the banks,
like pretty simple. You have a bank account, you do
this and you know what? They did it.
They said, yeah, you're right, we should do that.
They went and did it. Good for them.
They did it. No one had the will to do it.

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They did it and they're going tokeep increasing security.
They've got, we've give them, we've give them a lot more
recommendations and they're on the road to increase security.
Stop all this nonsense so our our seniors and our our people.
They're disabled, don't get stolen from.
Yeah, this is really worth emphasizing because like the,
you know, the radical left are saying that like somehow we're

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stealing Social Security. Like, first of all, I like, you
know, I, I don't need the money,OK?
In fact, it's costing me a lot to be in this job.
You know, you had like Tim Walz dancing on stage showing a chart
of Tesla stock, which is a really awful thing for him to

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do, you know, because what they're trying to do is put
massive pressure on on me and, and Tesla, I guess to just, you
know, I don't know, stop, stop doing this.
But you know, it's, you know, my, my Tesla stock and the stock
of everyone who holds Tesla's gone went roughly in half.

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I mean, it's a big deal. So not, not only is am I not
getting any, I'm not getting paid, definitely not stealing
money and would never get away with it, but the value of my
Tesla stock is in half. So this is a very expensive job
is what I'm saying. And but, but I think it's it's
it's. You're welcome.

(01:17:52):
Thank you, thank you, thank you.Thanks very much guys.
So, but long term, I think Teslastock is going to do fine.
So maybe it's a buying opportunity.

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So, but the actual thing we're doing is making sure that people
do get their Social Security andthat it doesn't get stolen.
So one. 100%. Yeah, yeah.
Sorry. Go ahead.

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Hi, Elon, I got a question for you about Dodge.
Wait, should. Everybody in this room has got a
bunch of money sitting in a bunch of little boxes in a bunch
of different states. And it turned into crickets when
you brought it up online that you were going to go check our
gold. And I'm worried about the
Democrats and Joe Biden's last administration.

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Let the money not be in there. Did you get blocked or are you
still able to check that? So I'm not sure I understand
exactly what you're referring to.
Fort Knox. Oh, Fort Knox.
Oh, yeah, Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, right. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Well, that's up to the president, of course.
But I think it would be, I, I think it would be awesome to
live stream Fort Knox, you know,I mean, that would be really

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fun. And, and after all, it, it is
actually the gold of the American people.
So the American people should, it seems to me, have a right to
see their gold, you know, hopefully it looks really cool.
You know, open the doors. Like, is it there?
Like, is that really gold? Let's check.

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You know, so maybe it'll be really, really interesting.
I'm I'm all for it. The president says he's he's
interested in doing it. So hopefully that happens.
So All right. Good evening, Mr. Moss.
How are you? Good.
How's it going? Good, Good.
My name is Vito Gabriel. I'm 18 years old.
This is my first election that I'll be voting in.

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So great. They're all exciting.
Actually. That reminds me.
So it is actually possible to both register to vote on
Tuesday. If someone has not registered to
vote, they can register to vote in Wisconsin and they can vote
the same day. So even if somebody's not a
registered voter, you can do it everything on Tuesday.

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So big back story. When I was younger, 8 years old
to be exact, my father put me towork in my family's restaurant
and it led me to want to start my own business and to be
successful just like you. And in my opinion, you're one of
the most successful businessmen to ever live.
And So what advice would you give to young entrepreneurs who

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want to start their own businesses and give back to this
great country? Well, sure.
Well, it is, it is very, very hard to start a business and
have it succeed. You know, it's, it is true that
most businesses that start do not succeed.

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So I mean, I, I guess I'd reallyjust say, you know, if, if, if
there's a product or service that you think is really needed,
then you, you go out and you, you, you make that product or
you produce that service off of that service and, and try to be

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as useful as possible. Really, you know, this, it's,
it's like whether you know, it's, it's a great restaurant or
store or a technology company orwhatever the case may be, it's
really just like, are you doing things that are useful to your
fellow human beings? And, you know, if, if you are,

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then I think the company will besuccessful.
So that's, that's, that's reallywhat it comes down to is, is
just being, being useful. Like people ask me like, what's
the top of advice? I'm like, try to be useful.
It's actually very difficult to be useful, you know, But you
know, I have a lot of admirationfor anyone who just does an

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honest day's work, you know, making products or, or producing
services for their fellow human beings.
That's what a company is, you know, that's, that's it.
So, but it, but it, it is hard. I mean, I mean, totally frankly

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like that. I generally said if somebody
needs encouragement to start a company, I would recommend not
and start it off starting a company.
It's, it's, it's a it's very difficult.
Like, you know, if you look at, say, the automotive industry,
the only two American car companies that have not gone

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bankrupt are Tesla and Ford. So it's a, it's a big cemetery
is what I'm saying. So that's a tough one, you know,
very, very tough industry. And there were really no like
commercial rocket companies thatwere successful before SpaceX.
It's generally very difficult tomake the value of the output

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exceed the cost of the input. And that's that's really what
defines a successful business. And profit is really the
difference between the value of the output and the cost of the
input. That's what profit is.
But it's like Shahili, hard to make the output more valuable

(01:23:32):
than the input. That's what I've found.
Yeah. So all right.
Hi Elon, thank you so much for being here.
Would you agree with me that theeconomic illiteracy in this
country is staggering, that people don't understand?
How close we, Yeah, I would say that that is true America to

(01:23:57):
going over the fiscal Cliff. Yeah, right.
Yes, most people actually, I think most people, well, I think
a lot of people don't know what a national debt is.
Like how did this national debt come about?
And, and how come there's all this money that somehow we owed,
but we didn't sign up to be to owing this money.

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But there's, you know, it's over$30 trillion of, of national
debt and that, that doesn't count future obligations.
So, and, and that that's just then it doesn't count state and
state and local debt. So it's, it's a lot of
basically, it's a lot of money that the government has signed
everyone in America up for. And yeah, so, so there's if, if

(01:24:43):
we, if we don't do something about it, then eventually there
won't be any, any money for anything.
We'll just be paying interest, you know, a company or sorry, I
should say a country is much like a person.
It's just, it's just bigger. A country is a collection of
people, but just like a person can go bankrupt, a country

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collectively can also go de facto bankrupt, essentially by
diluting the currency to where it's worthless.
And that's, that's where we're headed unless we are, you know,
take immediate and dramatic action with respect to
government spending. That's we're we're in deep
trouble basically. You've seen this in places like

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Venezuela. Yeah, exactly.
So in a lot of countries where it's, I think things have gone
to hell in a handbasket and it'slike, we just need to not do
that, you know. So if, you know, if the ship of
America sinks, we all sink with it.
You know, this is something thatI try to tell people that in, in

(01:25:51):
the sort of commercial sector that like, you're not going to,
your company's not going to makeit if the ship of America sinks.
So we're all going to like, you know, work together here to make
sure it does not. Antonio, feel free to ad Lib a

(01:26:11):
as you wish me. I know I I this is the only
place left to go. That's great.
Right, exactly. I don't think we can run off to
some other country and be OK. It's America, you know?
I will die in America. I'm not going anywhere.
I will too. I mean, I might go to Mars, but

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that will be part of America. Yeah.
Hi. Elon, thank you so much for
taking the time out of your busyschedule to be here today with
us in Green Bay, WI. Yeah, I just want to say that,

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Dozier. 'S findings demonstrate to the
American people that the government clearly does not care
about our hard earned tax dollars.
I've I'm only 26, but I can imagine it's frustrating for
people who have worked their entire lives to see their tax
dollars going to fraud, waste and abuse.
And you alone have contributed so much money to our government,

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Yes, via taxes. So thank you.
You're welcome. I'm sorry that your money's not
being spent very well. I you've clearly shown your
leadership and team is capable of transforming our government
into something better than what we see today.
I just want to say I'm sure I'm not the only one who's

(01:27:43):
wondering, but we know that DOGEhas found quite a bit of money
and we would like to see some ofthat returned to the American
people. Do you have any information on
when DOGE checks would be written or sent out?
Sure. Well, I guess we we need to be

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successful at scale. We've made a lot of progress,
but there's still a tremendous amount of work to do effectively
by as government spending is made more efficient and spending
is reduced, the the tax buy inflation is reduced.
So one way or another, you will effectively be better off if

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resources in the United States are not wasted.
So, and it's, it's, it's, it's, you know, somewhat up to the
Congress and, and maybe the president to, you know, as to
whether specific checks are cut.But but whether a check is cut
or not, if you reduce wasteful spending, the the economy is

(01:28:54):
going to be better off. There will be people will do
more useful jobs than before, the total output of goods and
services will increase, and thenthe average standard of living
will increase. So that's.
Yeah, I think the most importantlesson in economics is simply

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common sense that the the more people in a country that are
engaged in producing useful products and services, the
better off that country will be.Like you could you could run the
sort of thought experiment to say in the limit, if we moved
everyone in the car industry into the DMV, there would be no
cars, but there would be a lot of regulators.

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So then you say, well, OK, well then how many people should be
in the government versus not government?
And generally, I think you want to want to minimize the number
of people in government. This will be a lot of people in
government, but you want to keepthat to a minimum and move
people from low to negative productivity roles to high
productivity roles in the private sector.

(01:30:05):
Hey, Elon. So the first time I heard about
population collapse, I think wasfrom you on Joe Rogan.
I grew up in the generation where it was very
overpopulation, global warming. A lot of people don't want to
have kids. My wife and I just had our
first. She's a year.
Congratulations. Hi, John.
Thank you. And I'm finding out very quickly
a lot of these things I was toldabout having kids, losing

(01:30:28):
personal freedom. It's well worth it.
I mean, I, I would recommend it to everybody as I'm sure you
wouldn't we absolutely. I I mean, I've been banging the
baby drum for ages. Yes.
So my question to you is, what'sthe most surprising and
fulfilling thing you've learned from your kids, Especially we've
seen you around X all the time with Trump.
So what's your most fulfilling thing you've learned from having
kids? Yeah, X is, X is in the back

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there. He, you know, so hopefully
watching this, hopefully, yeah, I, I think, you know, I, I think
nothing makes you happier than kids really is, is what is the
truth of it. So, you know, kids will make
greatest souls to happiness. And I really encourage, as

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Antonio knows, I've encouraged your boyfriends and everyone to
have kids. It is, it is concerning, you
know, the, the United States hasbeen below replacement rate.
The birth rate in the United States has been below
replacement rate since roughly when I was born around 197071
thereabouts. And I think last year was the

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lowest birth rate on record. It was very, it was very low.
And then we're seeing this trendin almost every country on
earth. This is this is worrying because
it's like, well, if something doesn't happen, humanity is
going to disappear. So it's I think very important

(01:31:57):
to have kids. Like it's kids will make you
very happy. But there's also like, we got to
keep humanity going here. No, No humans, no humanity.
It's Elon practically preaches too, by the way.
He's having lots of kids. Sorry, you, you practice what
you preach. And yeah, for sure he tells all

(01:32:18):
his friends to do it too. I can tell you that for sure for
sure. Yeah, so all right.
Hi, thanks for coming. My name is Adam.
I'm a postal worker. I'm wondering if you could give
some insight into some of the reforms or changes that those
you might be looking at for the Postal Service.

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Well, actually maybe perhaps I can ask you what, what, what
should those be doing with respect to the Postal Service?
I'll write you a letter. OK.
OK. I, I suspect you've seen that
things are not entirely perfect in the Postal Service.

(01:32:59):
Yeah, yes. So I mean, obviously there's
it's, you know, delivering mail and packages is very important.
Yeah, there's a reason for why the Postal Service was created.
But, and I haven't really had a chance to look at the Postal
Service yet, but I. Have a little detail on the

(01:33:23):
analysis if you want. You do a little bit.
OK, sure. Yeah.
I mean, I wouldn't say that I want to be very general here,
but there is this thing about, you could tell us like there's
this thing about large volume users, Postal Service versus
small, small volume users, right?
So like some company? Please, I've heard.
I've heard of that, yeah. Yeah, I mean, you probably see
it, right? Like you see there's some
companies in the world that use posters a lot and pay the same

(01:33:45):
rate as everybody in this room that uses it a little bit.
Does that seem fair to you? You see it on the front line I.
Can't really see it. Well, he can't say because he
works there. You.
Know, OK, doesn't seem fair to me.
I don't work there. Yeah.
So I mean there are there's a bunch of questions about this
people are asking that I think are interesting analysis.
And when you you look at the source of truth and the data and

(01:34:05):
you make that transparent, I think it's gonna be obvious what
the right answers are. Yeah, it seems like some
companies are not being charged the right amount for package
delivery and there's probably more administrative overhead
than there should be. Would be some safe guesses I
suspect. Those are good guesses, Yeah.
Yeah, good guesses, all right. Elon, how are you?

(01:34:27):
Yo, good. Hey, how's it going?
It's you, your #1 reply guy on X.
Hey, it's Scott Prosser. It's good to finally beat in
person. Cool.
So I'm glad you like a lot of mystuff.
Yeah. Honestly, replying to my stuff,
liking my stuff. And I love to create material
because I'm a former Democrat myself, just like you.
Yeah. And I want to help bring over
moderate voters from the Democrat Party who are
disenfranchised. Yeah.
And I'd love to be able to create more content to help you

(01:34:49):
out, to help us win more elections, to win the midterms
for 2028. And.
Sounds good, would I be able to get a follow up from your main
because you followed me from your old cyber gamer?
I did OK, yeah, at this point I yeah, sure, I'll do that.
Sure. I mean, it's right now I used to

(01:35:09):
only follow maybe a few 100 accounts, which it was possible
to read a lot, most of what theyposted.
But now I think I follow like 1100 accounts, which makes it
impossible. So, so like it's just like I
could only see a few things thatpeople post at random
essentially. So yeah, but I'm trying to

(01:35:32):
digest as much information as myhuman brain can manage.
So, but yeah, thanks for your engagement and just you know, in
general like try to report on what's really happening is
great. Thank you.
Thank. You, Mr. Moss, thank you so much

(01:35:55):
for being here and bringing attention to what's going on
with our Supreme Court here. It's very important.
And I think it would have gottenno attention, not even half of
what it's getting now, if you hadn't stepped in for good or
bad. Yeah, you get a press then good
press. You think no, exactly.
The, the, the, it's totally, I mean, obviously for us, any kind

(01:36:18):
of special election is going to get a fraction, a small fraction
of the attention of a say a presidential election.
And, and then, you know, normally a, an election for a
judge would not be that big of adeal.
It just so happens that this, inthis case, it could decide the
control of the US House of Representatives, which is a

(01:36:41):
yeah, a huge deal. Yeah, yeah.
My personal experience with Judge Crawford, I am a family
that she moved a pedophile rightnext to.
Our what? Really.
Yeah, it is a true story, the end ads that you're hearing from
Mr. Schimmel. I am one of the home owners that
had to live next to him for manyyears unaware.

(01:37:04):
So the letter that I wrote to her I'm sure played into what we
are experiencing now in family court family.
We're veterans 20 years. It just wasn't good for him.
It was not good for me. And we're trying to work through
our family court situation. But what we're realizing is the
2 strategies that they use are indoctrination or intimidation.

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And if if you step up and say we're practicing Catholic
family, the result is her band of Mary Rogue judges and the
court affiliates and the commissioners will flood the
family court, have flooded the family court system.
So I guess my question would be,regardless of what happens with

(01:37:50):
this very important vote, let's not forget what's happening in
the family court system in Dane County, Wisconsin, that's being
flooded with these rogue judges and affiliates and commissioners
who then, if you don't subscribeto what they're saying, they
will just wipe out your ability to raise your family or proceed

(01:38:11):
with your family in a way that you feel your culture dictates,
your religion dictates, your financial background dictates.
It has gone completely bananas and I'm wondering what you can
do to keep the light shine on our court system in Dane County.
It does have a lasting effect onfamilies and it will breed out

(01:38:34):
our ability to raise our families in the spirit in which
we feel is most healthy for our our young, our children and and
the sanctity of our family. Absolutely.
I think that's fundamental to life, liberty and the pursuit of

(01:38:58):
happiness, which is the foundation of America, that you
know, that, that you, you shouldhave control over your family,
not the state. The state should not have
control over your family. It's insane that people would
think that so. We've had friends have to escape
California because of this. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, it's literally had to
leave because the state tried todictate their kids, because

(01:39:20):
they're imposing the state's values on the kids and they
literally had to leave overnight.
More than one friend we've had the story.
Really. Really.
Yeah, no, there's a thing changed the law in California
where if the teachers determine that it's in the kids interest,
like like if you don't respect like, you know, I don't know, 10

(01:39:41):
year olds pronouns or something,the the like the state can take
your kid in California. So it's, it's insane, you know,
it's, it's it's state, state forced indoctrination.
And if you, if you don't match their, you know, whatever the,
the, the state wants, then they can take your kid in California.

(01:40:04):
It's a big deal. Yeah, exactly.
So it should just be, you know, family should have control over
their own circumstances and it should not be the government
that decides what how your children should be raised.
Hey, Elan, my name is Jack. There's a lot of questions.

(01:40:27):
I see. There it is.
We were gonna answer everything at this point, but I'm sorry.
Please go ahead. Sorry.
Go ahead. Thank you for taking the
questions. Yeah, Yeah, a lot of people.
I agree. So I just I was wondering, I've
seen I noticed that there was another a second Nexzilla being
built. At the star base.
Are we gonna be go for launch for the Artemis mission coming

(01:40:48):
up? That's a very sort of space
question. So there's, there are, there are
two towers in South Texas and then two and they were planning
to build 2 towers at the Cape inFlorida and then probably some,
some more elsewhere in the future.

(01:41:08):
But there will be, there'll be twin towers at the Cape and twin
towers in South Texas Starbase. So, all right.
Hey, Elon, good to meet you. Thank you for everything you're
doing for the country and the world.
Thank you. I I have two questions.
They asked me to keep it short. Sure.

(01:41:30):
Well, we one, when do you when do you vision solving blindness
and bringing that to the masses or it'll be for everyone.
And the other is is robotaxi on schedule?
Yeah. Well, it's certainly a wide
range of questions tonight. The yes.

(01:41:51):
So for Neurolink, we've actuallyhad Neurolink has had in monkeys
a working, you know, device we call Blindsight, where it's been
working well and monkeys are healthy for a few years now.
And we're hoping later this yearto do our first device implant

(01:42:15):
for human enabling someone who is completely blind to C, It's
going to be low res at first, like Atari graphics, you know,
so I want to set expectations appropriately.
So it'll start off with like very low res, but then over
time, I think eventually the implant would enable vision that
is like superhuman. So that would be, that would be

(01:42:36):
pretty cool. And then, yeah, things are
currently on track to do unsupervised full self driving
in Austin in June. So I think we probably will,

(01:42:56):
we'll take maybe four more questions.
So just two from that side and two from that side and then
we'll call it a night. So go ahead.
Thank you so much. First of all, you are beyond
absolutely legendary and an absolute true hero.
So thank you so much for everything you're doing,
achieving, accomplishing. You've on so many impossibles.
It is astonishing. Thank you.

(01:43:17):
My name is Brian Wright, and I've been filming from last year
all the way into this year, a docu series on finding peace.
And during this election year, the episode was how many lines
do we actually need to cross in order to be able to find peace?
And I wanted to ask you, where do you feel like we are in this
way, this divide? Are we so far divided as to
where there's no coming back to the middle?

(01:43:38):
Or where do you see us being? Yeah, we, we we should restore
the Smith might act so that we, the government cannot spy or
issue propaganda to the people. So yeah, I don't know.

(01:44:00):
I mean, I kind of thought that we're headed in a good direction
for a while there and then. And then the last, you know,
month or so, there have been these like, like crazy violent
things happening against Tesla and, and partising me and
whatnot. And I'm like, this is just nuts,
you know, and, and, and, you know, a lot of people sort of

(01:44:22):
perforating signs around saying that, you know, that President
Trump and, you know, should die type of thing.
And I'm like, this is really nuts, you know, But I think the,
the real issue is like, like who's organizing and funding
that? Like the, the, the same people
that organized and funded the, you know, the, the infiltrators,
you know, who, who the Heckle isearlier tonight.

(01:44:44):
So it's, it's, it's whoever theyare, you know, and I guess we
know of some of their names, butit's really yeah, yeah.
Saw us and a bunch of others. I'm not sure really what I
sometimes I wonder what is theirgoal?
Like what, what's what's their aim?
You know, I guess is it communism, I guess is a part of

(01:45:06):
it or just I don't know. Sometimes I want to like, have
they thought through what they're if they'd say they got
their goal, what then what you know, so I don't know.
I'm hopeful that things calm down, that there's, you know, we
gauge that, that people engage in like dialogue, but not not

(01:45:27):
violence. And that, you know, if for those
who, who do push violence and destruction of property and
intimidation, obviously they, they need to face legal
consequences for that. So, and the president has said

(01:45:50):
that, you know, that that needs to happen.
Obviously, if people are pushingviolence and destruction of
property, that that is against the law and they, they need to
face the consequences of that. So thank you.
Yeah, Elon. Thank you, Elon.
I constantly hear that the doge efforts are going to do things

(01:46:10):
like take away Social Security payments and reduce other
government payments like that. You've touched on it tonight,
but. Can you stay to stay to you've
discussed that length over the last few months, yeah.
You talk talk again about how the Doge efforts are actually
going to affect things like the payments and other programs like
that. Yeah, I guess it would be

(01:46:32):
helpful because so I just statedas crisply and clearly as
possible that DOGE will absolutely ensure that people
get their Social Security, make sure they get their Social
Security, make sure they get their Medicaid, and will not be
cutting any legitimate payments whatsoever.
Crystal clear. I'll just add to this.

(01:46:58):
I, I've been there working there.
I spent about the first 3 or 4 weeks of my time in Woodlands
actually working in social administration. 100% when you're
saying is true, nothing has happened on the ground that
would impact the level of payments going to people that
legitimately are owed those payments, period.
A lot is going to happen to people that are stealing from

(01:47:18):
the system. Yeah, yeah, they're not getting
the payments. And you know who's screaming?
They are because they're committing fraud and we should
take that away from them becausethey're stealing from all of us
in this room and our parents andthey're going to scream loud and
it's going to get louder. But it would, but thank you,

(01:47:39):
thank you for asking that question because it it, you
know, it is something that as obvious to this as it sounds,
it's a great question because wejust need to be very crisp and
clear. Those will make sure you get
your Social Security. Those will make sure you get
your Medicaid. There will be no cuts to
legitimate payments whatsoever. I'd like to go last, if it's OK

(01:48:05):
with the other gentlemen. Would you like to go, Sir?
Please go. Thank you.
Mr. Musk, thank you so much for coming to Wisconsin.
I just want to thank you for calling out bad ideas on X.
You do that like every 30 minutes and if I don't see
something, I'm like, wow, so you're on OK.

(01:48:28):
Yeah. And we all know that ideas of
consequences and bad ideas have victims.
And thank you for speaking up for victims.
And a few nights ago when you spoke with Bret Baier, when
you're being interviewed and he asks you what keeps you up at
night? And like that other question you

(01:48:50):
answered and you pause and it was depopulation.
And I was waiting for you to saylike, oh, the death threats
against my life or the national debt or the depopulation.
Yeah, depopulation is a really big deal.
It's not on people's radar. What is that?

(01:49:13):
Well, I think, I think we, we haven't yet evolved to deal with
depopulation. You know, it's, it's, I guess
it's something we're better evolved to deal with or we're
going to disappear. And once the depopulation roll
starts rolling, it seems to gather up speed.

(01:49:35):
I mean, you can look at sort of cases like Korea and Japan,
which are much further ahead or behind depending on how you look
at it, that like the population decline there is much worse.
Japan is an absolute population,population decline.
So they're losing about I think roughly 1,000,000 people a year
of population and that's going to accelerate.

(01:49:56):
Korea is has only a third replacement rate, which means
that in three generations the country will be 3 or 4% of its
current size. Like basically all that'll be
left is a small portion of the capital city.
So and I keep waiting for the birth rate to turn around, but
it doesn't, it seems like population collapse accelerates

(01:50:22):
and that's why I think it's a very serious matter.
If you believe in humanity at all, you should care about this
a lot. And then, you know, that's sort
of, but that, you know, that's the sort of long term thing and
the short term thing is remaining is that America needs
to be financially solvent. You know, that's what Dosha is

(01:50:46):
about, trying to just make sure America is financially solvent.
And then there's also the risks of AI.
So we want to make sure that AI is maximally truth seeking and,
you know, ideally has sort of values that most Americans would
agree with and that it's a pro human AI, that it wants to

(01:51:10):
foster the future of humanity. Those are the things that I
think about so. Please Elon, my name is Matt
Hoss. Like Bonanza Big Hoss, I own and
operate a small business here inthe Fox Valley, and tomorrow I

(01:51:33):
actually get the honor and the privilege to host Brad Schimmel
at our shop, Spring Getty Landscape, if anyone's in the
Valley. Sounds good.
Come down 4430 tomorrow, we're having a shindig to have Brad
stop by. He's going to come and give a
little speech, get some, some. That's what this was about.
It was Brad's election. And so I just wanted to say, in
your opinion, what is Brad goingto do for small business owners

(01:51:55):
like myself? Well, I think he's going to help
get the government off your back.
So that's a big deal, you know, for for anyone that starts the
business, you know, it's like you used to just be able to open
a store and not get like a zillion permits and licenses and
everything. You know, that's how America,

(01:52:16):
you wanted to make a product. You just made the product and
you didn't have to satisfy a massive body of regulations and
get a permission from all sorts of agencies.
So hopefully Justice Shimel is, you know, supports that and
helps get the government off your back.
All right, So let me finish by saying obviously, yeah, those

(01:52:44):
are the states that will be cool.
But just just remember like this, the importance of the
election on Tuesday is gigantic.It could it could decide the the
future of the House of Representatives.
It could decide then the future of America and the future of the
world. So it's absolutely critical that

(01:53:04):
you really you need to just dragfriends and family to vote on
Tuesday for Justice Schimmel andfor voter ID.
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