As energy infrastructure becomes a battlefield for hybrid threats, NATO is rethinking how to defend its member states beyond traditional warfare. In this special episode, Leslie Palti-Guzman speaks with Dr. Benedetta Berti, Director of Policy Planning at NATO’s Office of the Secretary General.
Together, they explore:
- Why energy security is central to NATO’s collective defense
- The growing threat of sabotage, cyberattacks, and underwater cable disruption
- Strategic vulnerabilities in energy grids, shipping routes, and military fuel logistics
- NATO’s evolving stance on hybrid warfare and systemic challenges posed by China
Also we deep-dive on NATO’s deterrence strategies, and the economic upside of defense-industrial innovation.
Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, and all major podcast platforms.
This episode was recorded on July 10, 2025
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