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March 4, 2019 71 mins

Carl Safina is a conservationist and writer. His writing about the living world has won a MacArthur “genius” prize, Pew, and Guggenheim Fellowships in addition to countless awards and medals. His writing has appeared in The New York Times, TIME, Audubon, National Geographic News and Views, Huffington Post, CNN.com, and numerous other publications.


He has a PhD in Ecology from Rutgers, hosted the PBS show 'Saving the Ocean,' and runs the nonprofit Safina Center at Stony Brook University.


He has written seven books, including Song for the Blue Ocean. We spend the majority of the conversation discussing his latest, Beyond Words: What Animals Think and Feel. It discusses the similarity between human and nonhuman consciousness, self-awareness, empathy and emotional intelligence. The book is an examination of humanity's place in the world and calls us to re-evaluate how we interact with animals. 


Please check out and support Carl’s work:

Web site: http://carlsafina.org/

Books: http://carlsafina.org/books/

Beyond Words: What Animals Think and Feel: https://amzn.to/2ck0RWF

TED talk: https://bit.ly/1kLmBQ1

PBS show: www.pbs.org/show/saving-the-ocean/

Nonprofit: http://safinacenter.org/

Facebook: www.facebook.com/carl.safina

Instagram: www.instagram.com/csafina


Sources for topics discussed:

Crows rival monkeys in cognitive functions: https://go.nature.com/2SlmLh0

Blackfish: www.blackfishmovie.com

Windshield Phenomenon: https://bit.ly/2E25dBr

DDT: https://bit.ly/2NsckWD

Planet Earth: Peregrines in NYC: https://bbc.in/2SgxCsF

CA condor success story: https://bit.ly/1Oqb2pe

Sumatran Rhino story by Jeremy Hance: https://bit.ly/2i68lSR

Sumatran rhino capture: https://bit.ly/2IwloMY

Bernd Heinrich: https://bit.ly/2GUYjAW

The Sixth Extinction by Elizabeth Kolbert: https://amzn.to/2tIFgTB

Diane Ackerman: www.dianeackerman.com

BBC Planet Earth: https://bbc.in/2vlogCh

Center for Biological Diversity: www.biologicaldiversity.org

NRDC: www.nrdc.org

Save The Elephants: www.savetheelephants.org

Big Life Foundation: www.biglife.org

Yellowstone Forever: www.yellowstone.org

Amboseli Trust for Elephants: www.elephanttrust.org

Cheetah Fund: https://cheetah.org/

Snow Leopard Conservancy: https://bit.ly/1bGOZLW


Full show notes @ https://bit.ly/2TfmKAD

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