What if the chronic health conditions that have plagued you for years could be resolved in just days?
Dr. Molly Brown and Christina Walecka, M.A. are reshaping the wellness industry with a revolutionary, brain-based approach at The Centered Clinic in Sun Valley, Idaho - and soon, they’ll be bringing this transformative model to Boise.
Rooted in the powerful principle that “you cannot heal the body from the neck down,” their work addresses the root causes of illness by rewiring neural pathways and balancing the nervous system. By restoring the body’s natural capacity to heal, patients experience relief that traditional medicine often fails to deliver. With over 15 integrated modalities under one roof, the clinic provides a comprehensive and cutting-edge approach to whole-person health.
At the core of their method are three neurologically driven treatments:
- AMIT (Advanced Muscular Integration Technique) for pain relief and sports performance
- QNRT (Quantum Neurological Reset Therapy) for trauma, anxiety, and autoimmune conditions
- Neurofeedback for optimizing brain function and focus
These aren’t just treatments—they’re breakthroughs. Patients frequently report immediate relief from chronic pain, longstanding anxiety, and conditions that once felt untreatable. The key? Resetting the brain’s stress response and shifting people out of a constant state of fight-or-flight, making room for true transformation.
As Dr. Brown puts it: “Five days at our clinic and they are full of light. My passion is turning someone with dull, sad eyes and low energy into someone who’s passionate about life again.”
Now, as part of their bold vision to expand access to this model, the duo is launching a beautifully designed riverside clinic in Boise, built with organic materials and calming spaces that support the healing journey. They’re also establishing an AMIT Teaching Institute to train the next generation of practitioners in these game-changing techniques.
At Ever Onward, we celebrate those pushing boundaries and transforming industries—and Dr. Brown and Christina are doing exactly that. Their work isn’t just a shift in healthcare—it’s a blueprint for the future of wellness, entrepreneurship, and purpose-driven growth.
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Explore what’s possible when you start healing from the brain down. Visit www.drmollybrown.com or tune into their podcast for a deeper dive into the science—and story—behind this movement.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Today on the Ever Onward podcast, we have Dr Molly
Brown and Christina Walaleca.
They are founders of theCentered Clinic in Sun Valley,
idaho, and also the CenteredPodcast.
They are great friends.
They're going to be opening oneof their clinics here in Boise
and we wanted to have them on totalk about their alternative
treatment for so many differentthings.
(00:21):
They're making such atremendous impact on healing and
helping people and they will beopening a clinic here in Boise.
We're really excited to get anupdate from them on their
international travel, all thebusiness they're doing and talk
about wellness in Idaho.
Molly and Christina.
(00:44):
Hi, tommy, I'm nervous becauseI'm like you guys have your own
podcast.
It's a big deal.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
You've already tried to like big shot us and not wear
your headsets.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Thank, you for coming on today.
We're okay with the headsets.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I'm really, really excited to talk to you.
You're welcome and you just gotback from Germany.
We were just talking about it.
I wanted to get it on thepodcast, so we're live.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
You get comfortable Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Um, you're everywhere , but you just got back from
Germany.
Tell us about that.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Two days in and out that's how we like to roll.
Four days in Germany.
Well, two of the days weretravel.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
So we went to, we went to Germany to present the
sports medicine work that we doand we presented it to some,
some doctors over there and they, it's such different and
innovative work that we, youknow, we don't know, and so we
don't know if people will get itor not, like, but they did,
they loved it and we had areally successful trip and, um,
(01:45):
it was Christine and I and DrBuehler and, uh, his wife Janet,
and it was a big success, hugesuccess.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
It started off with a huge presentation day.
A lot of people from around theworld came and presented what
they've been working on in termsof athletic in the United
States and people came in one,but others besides us.
And then we did a demo daywhich really hooked everyone.
Most of the people from the daybefore showed up.
And then, I think, molly and DrBuehler, and we were in there
(02:14):
for eight hours, one by one.
Everyone was like me next, menext, me next.
It was crazy Awesome.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
It was cool, like the aim at work is the sports
medicine work we do, which likeclears pain instantly, and it's
incredible work.
There's nothing like it outthere.
And so, um, we yeah, we hadthis whole lineup of the top
sports medicine doctors and theywere all got up and they were
like this is super impressive.
They all felt immediatedifferences.
So um it was.
(02:42):
It was really cool one the oneof the doctors that in his
clinic his son is a strong man.
Do you know what that is?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, we did, you did it.
It's a strong man.
It's kind of like a monstertruck ride yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
You're back in Idaho.
We get monster trucks, strongman competition, yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
So he was a strong man, so he worked on his knee
and he really loved the work andhe works in his dad's clinic
and so that was pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
So he has a competition this week, so we'll
have to see how he went, how hedid.
We're going to jump all overthe place intentionally, but
tell us more about the work.
How is it different?
Because we're going to get intoyou guys and all the great
things.
You're going on how we met andall that we'll get into.
But your specific treatment isis not traditional, but it's
very proven.
It's, it's backed with results.
(03:32):
And tell us exactly what it is,because I think it is so
revolutionary and you're goingto be bringing this to the
treasure Valley.
I've been wanting to have youon.
We'll get into all that, buttalk about the treatment.
Let's start with the main thinghere.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Well in in my clinic.
It's a neurologically basedapproach and it's all natural
medicine.
So we have a huge scope of work.
We have 15 different modalities, but our core modalities are
the aim at work, which is forpain and sports performance.
And it's literally like if youhave an acute injury, sprained
ankle or pulled hamstring, whichisn't usually what does it
stand for?
Advanced muscle integrationtechnique or therapy.
(04:03):
So.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
AMET AMIT yeah, amit.
Amit.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Integration Advanced Muscular Integration.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Technique Okay great.
So that work, it literallysaves people decades of pain and
it stabilizes your muscularsystem, your neuromuscular
system.
So it's like a 10-minute toturn on to.
So we start by checking themuscles and see if they're
inhibited or engaged.
If the muscles inhibited, likea common sprained ankle, right
(04:30):
it's, it's a 10 minute fix.
If it's an acute sprained ankle, if it's more than 48 hours.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Thank you so much.
So for those watching on hey,for those watching we're
replacing the Cokes.
I may or may not have had aDiet Coke addiction for my
entire life, oh my gosh.
So actually, when I knew you,were your entire life.
Well, as far back as I canremember, I mean.
I'm sure there's part, but, likeas an ER doctor, I drank well.
(04:58):
So anyway, you always give me ahard time.
We're going to get into thestory, and when I knew you were
coming on the podcast thismorning because I just did one,
I have already had three32-ounce Diet Cokes this morning
and I was going to hide my DietCoke so that I didn't get
shamed.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Oh no, I'm not a shamer.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
And you showed up and you're like.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
No, I brought something better.
These are the Curious.
Okay, tell me, these areactually amazing.
They curious elixirs.
Curious elixirs, yeah, sothey're um non-alcoholic elixirs
and so you get they're likekind of like a party drink, but
this is the orange, ginseng andbasil and it's energizing and
you serve it over ice orangeginseng and basil yes, it's very
energizing, but it's muchbetter yeah so what's most
(05:38):
embarrassing is, in our entireoffice, which we pride ourselves
on having all things to snacksand everything else, we did not
have a clear cup.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
We only had.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
We got one now.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
So, alex, thank you Wherever you had to go to get
these, but we are trying Elixir.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Try it.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
We're going to throw out the Cokes.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
That's really good.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Because we have to upgrade your health.
The.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Cokes are really damaging.
I'm not just saying it, that'ssuper, it's amazing.
Yeah, yeah, I expected it totaste?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
No, it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
We did that, me and Shanna did that juice thing for
a week one time.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Oh you did.
I love juice.
Oh, I didn't make it, Did youlike it?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
No, we made it like because they give you the whole
week's worth, right which?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
one did you do?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I can't remember, it's been too long, but I like
the one that tastes like orangejuice and all the rest of them.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Let me tell you something about being healthy
and focusing on longevity.
You can always find somethingthat tastes good, that works,
whether, again, it's a gluten,whether it's an allergy for food
, or it's like again replacing acoke with something that's
actually healthy for you andfuels you.
You can always find somethingthat tastes good that's why I
brought it.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
This is really good.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
You have to come into our world, Tommy From organic
and natural low-sugar chocolatesto juices.
I was going to bring thechocolates, but last time I
brought them you ate them sofast.
I don't think you appreciatedthem.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
So we really like them.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Man.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
This is going to be a long hour, it's going to be a
long hour.
So we're going to go back.
So you just got back, so we didthis, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
So the aim at work.
It's taught by Dr Buehler outof Utah and he's worked with it
at the highest levels of sportsperformance.
Utah Jazz, the BYU basketballteam, went to zero missed games
for injuries when he was workingwith them.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Amazing, like the top skiers and snowboarders in the
world University of Utah.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Amazing, like the top skiers and snowboarders in the
world University of Utah, he'swon I think his athletes have
won a total of three gold medalsat the Olympics.
One of them couldn't stand sixweeks before her gold medal and
he did a concussion techniqueand she won gold six weeks later
.
And so we have a lot of successwith that work.
It's for pain and sportsperformance and just for
(07:56):
everyone to be active.
Your body is designed to moveright, so you, you want to stay
as active as possible throughoutyour life.
It's no, like there's no suchthing, like I don't really see
that there's a decline thatshould ever happen.
People should stay reallyactive throughout their life.
Like all that aches and painspeople think are normal.
They're not normal, we canclear them and so it's a really
result.
I work with a lot of kids anduse sports and the sprained
(08:18):
ankles we can end them instantly.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
The hamstrings Well, this is how I met you, so let's
start there.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
So, my really good friend Mike Boren, yes, mine too
Is your really good friend, notChristina's yet.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
He's an unbelievable guy and he called me and said
hey, you have to meet Dr MollyBrown, you have to meet her.
It's like he tells me this bigstory and you would take care of
him and his family, his son,and he's got these stories of
like, hey, this is the thing.
So he introduced us because youhave a clinic, so let's get
into your core business, andthen we'll talk about the
podcast and you guys not like?
(08:52):
There's so many things to talkabout.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
This is going to go by really fast.
This is what we want to talkabout, and we have a really long
list.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
It's a really long list.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Anything you want to talk about.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
So that's how we met, because your clinic in Sun
Valley, idaho, there's so manyand now that I've gotten to know
you, so many people know you.
Oh really.
Oh yes, molly Brown, it's great.
But yes, molly Brown, it'sgreat, but the point is you were
looking for a place down hereto bring these same services
here to a bigger area closer toan airport.
(09:20):
You could have gone to LA, youcould have gone to wherever, but
you're going to do this here inBoise.
So we've had the pleasure ofgetting to know you through that
.
We're targeting down on theriver in the new project we're
doing and working with you.
So, as I've gotten to know you,it's been incredible.
And the new project we're doingand working with you.
So, as I've gotten to know you,it's been incredible.
So talk a little bit about yourcore business, how it started,
and then whatever you want totalk about, and then you guys.
(09:43):
There's like so many things.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
So many things.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
And I'll sit here and drink my elixir.
My Diet Coke is within reach,though.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
No, it's not.
Can you please get rid of it?
Um, so my clinic has developedover time, obviously, but I have
two core modalities.
It's both the aim at work andthe q and rt that we combine
with neurofeedback okay it's allbrain-based wellness.
Christine and I are superpassionate about the brain-based
approach because, um, you cannever heal the body, basically
(10:13):
from the neck down, like youcan't just over, like take IVs
every day, or you know peoplecome in and they take they're
taking 20 different supplementsor you know we're on five
different meds, or I've listenedto a couple of your podcasts
where you've had some peoplecome in that were on crazy,
crazy stories of results.
Yeah, we it's like one in 10Americans are on antidepressants
, and you know they.
(10:33):
Those medications can haveserious side effects.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
So well, they're also not solutions and a lot of
times your body can't assimilatecertain things that you're
feeding it when you're in a badplace so my passion in life has
always been like a very natural,clean approach and, um, for my
own self, I've worked throughautoimmune issues.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I've had a lot of sports injury.
I've had, you know, as a soccerplayer I've had a lot of sports
injury.
I've had, you know, as a soccerplayer, I've had a lot of
injuries and just all sorts ofthings that I couldn't find
solutions for and so, kind offor survival right, I've found
solutions.
I found different solutions andwhen I find something
incredible, I bring it into myclinic now, and so we have a
scope of work of over 15different modalities.
(11:14):
Christine and I both practicethe QNRT and the neurofeedback
and that's the work that'samazing.
For autoimmune anxiety,depression, trauma, it's the
most incredible.
Like both of us, when we foundthat work, we had the feeling
that, like for me, I had thefeeling I was like I would have
looked my entire life for thiswork.
(11:35):
It is so powerful.
I would have looked my entirelife for this work.
It is so powerful.
It encompasses emotional work,spiritual work, physical work,
physiological, organoglandularautoimmune, everything you can
think of.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
We like to use the term resilience because I
practice marriage and familytherapy and I've spent a lot of
my life dealing again withhealth issues that stem from
more brain, like depression,anxiety, all of the above.
And I went into therapy forthose reasons and I got a lot of
great results.
But it took a lot, a lot oftime.
(12:07):
I mean, I've been in therapyfor 20 years and been practicing
now for a while.
But the QNRT was like aninstant success point and what
you do in therapy is you talkabout issues and it's great for
communication, it's great forrelationships, but at the same
time it's really hard to trainthat 95 to 98% of our thoughts
that are subconscious thoughtsand the conscience like you
(12:29):
can't looking in a mirror everyday and trying to tell yourself
something that you don't trulybelieve.
It's really hard to break thatnegative thought pattern in that
cycle and I know a lot ofpeople struggle with it and
having a safe space to talkabout your issues is really
important, which is wheretherapy comes in.
But the Q and R T work.
It is instantly resetting yourneural pathways.
It is allowing you to move onfrom this past trauma that's
been holding you back and livingwith you.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I am Remember.
You've always make fun of me.
No, no, no, we will never dothat.
We only uplift people.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
You do every time we're together, but ER doctor
right, so Western medicine,neanderthal, the best kind of
doctor.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Well, no, it's like broken bone.
Do that, I mean, it's justthat's what we do you need the
ER?
Doctors, you need ER doctors.
Yeah, you guys hate us untilyou need us.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
No, no, no.
Then you want us to fix stuff.
We need the acute care.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
You are not bamboozlers you want us to do
CPR, you want us to like whenyou need something, set a bone,
set right.
But I have learned a lotrecently and it makes sense to
me.
This is where I'm going to go,and you're going to critique my
very simplistic way ofexplaining what you do.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
I think that Tommy, you're one of the most amazing
people we've ever met.
We talk about this often.
We really enjoy you.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I do think that if you look at mental illness, or
whatever the trauma people gothrough, because we do a lot of
work with veterans down at ourclinic Summit Hyperbarics but
the way I like to explain it topeople is your brain is this
organ that has these synapses atthe end of it, and then your
body has this sympathetic thingthat's fight or flight, and then
(14:03):
there's the parasympatheticthat regulates you down right
and over time, with trauma, withall of the things that happen
to people in life and back andforth, people can get
overwhelmed in their sympatheticnervous system for whatever.
It's just firing, firing, firing, firing, firing, and you think
about what happens at thatneurotransmitter level every
time.
It fires and fires, and fires,and fires, and you're anxious
(14:25):
all the time and then it leadsyou to be more anxious and it
leads you to be, and in themiddle of it you're trying to
deal with relationships or lifeor past trauma or whatever.
It makes 100% sense to me that,yes, you need to do counseling
and you need to talk about thosethings, but you also need a
reset in some way of yourparasympathetic nervous system,
(14:46):
so that you're not always inthis fight or flight sympathetic
thing.
I think that that is what thisthe basis of a lot of these
really good therapies are thatyou're talking about is a reset.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Is that?
Does that make sense?
It's literally a QNRT reset.
Good job, Tommy, you figured usout so proud.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
No, so the QNRT is a nervous system reset.
So the way we explain it isthat it actually resets your
nervous system at the level ofthe brain and the central
nervous system, and it'smiraculous with autoimmune or
like chronic issues, like ifpeople are looping.
You know those people that areso fired up they react to
everything.
It's amazing for those peopleand which is kind of like
(15:28):
everybody.
So one of the things I want totalk, especially post-pandemic,
yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
So let's say you have that going on and you have an
underlying anxiety or thing.
It makes you feel more anxious.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
The example I would use from the ER let me go back
to like the Neanderthal thing iswhen you have people
hyperventilating, the sensationof hyperventilating makes you
more anxious makes you get tonic, tonic get you everything going
on Right and then and then,ultimately you pass out if you
don't control that.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
But I don't know how many times I've had to sit with
somebody and say, but thatfiring all the time.
And there are people that justlive like that.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Oh, for sure.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
And then, on top of it, they turn to medication.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
And then the medications have side effects.
And then they try anothermedication and it has side
effects.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
And then it can be serious side effects.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
But you can see how people get in trouble, right?
Oh, for sure, because peopledon't want to feel like this.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
That's why I'm so passionate about what I do Like.
My passion in life is turningsomeone with like kind of the
dull, sad eyes right and likelow energy and pain all the time
.
Five days at our clinic andthey are full of light.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Who's the guy you just had on your podcast
Functioning?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
happy people Jordan.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
What was the last name?
Sofro?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Sofro, yeah, jordan.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, it was an awesome episode.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Skipping out.
That's a common thing too.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
I mean listening to him from the start of that and
then going through and you talkthat's what made me think of
that, as you talked about whathis eyes, and from the start,
His skin was actually gray whenhe came in because he was so
unhealthy and just so trapped inpain all the time and he was on
all these medications.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
We see, after a couple of days people just
literally brighten up.
Their skin is healthy, theireyes are bright, they're full of
energy and they're laughing.
They're coming laughing andrelaxing.
At first they're really tenseenergy and they're laughing.
They're coming laughing andrelaxing.
At first they're like reallytense and downhearted.
But that is like.
My absolute passion in life islike that transformation where
people are just downtrodden bylife and they're amazing people
with a lot of talents Right.
(17:27):
And then we can turn themaround, like what a gift to give
to somebody, right.
Like you can turn them aroundand they're passionate about
life they can give back to otherpeople and their community and
their kids and their betterparents and partners and
everything, and there's momentumthat comes with it.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
So once you're not sympathetic and you're in this
parasympathetic state where youcan take, it in and you can calm
and you can process, and thenyou're happy and then you do
things there, you engage otherpeople, and then that builds, I
mean, just like people canspiral out of control.
You can also gain momentum onthe other side, where you start
being happy and feeling happy.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
And that's why it's so great for like relationships
and work environments andfriendships and you just start
thriving.
But you bring up a really goodpoint with the again.
This is what we call itbrain-based wellness.
But a lot of people are stuckin these anxiety states or it's
just in their head and it'sconstant and they can't get out
of it.
And as a doctor, I reallyappreciate you saying that.
But, like, sometimes you alsohave like a pain and you don't
(18:25):
put two and two together, thatyou're living in this cycle of
like I'm constantly hurting andI don't even know if it's
hurting anymore, but I'm livingwith this hurt and I think it's
hurting.
And being able to communicatewhat's really going on from
someone not in a with aprofessional medical background
is really difficult.
So we call it self-advocation.
But you have to be able to lookat the whole picture and look
(18:46):
at your body and look at yourbrain and say, okay, are there a
lot of things going on and arethey all stemming from one place
?
Do we need to peel back theonion one layer at a time?
Are they separate?
How do we make this work andget the person living and
feeling their best?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
It's awesome.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, it's really, it's amazing.
It's like the most amazingthing ever.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Like you had the dude on the spiritual dude Dr
Cousins.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Yeah, he's amazing.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah, he's amazing.
That was a little trippy.
The first one was a lot betterthan the second one.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
The first one was a lot better than the second one,
the Elixir.
Well, you also mixed them.
I wasn't going to say no, no,no, no, they're all the same
flavor.
No, this is blood orange.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I like the blood orange.
This is Sicilian blood orange,oh you got the pomegranate.
That is my favorite.
Oh, this is yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I like the blood orange.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yeah, the blood orange.
I'm used to artificialsweetener.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
You should change that, though you should.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
I realized that and I now.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I thought we were on an Air One kick.
We thought of you, tommy, wewere in Air One.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I think that's the last time you made fun of me
because I went down to SantaMonica with my son and my
daughter told me to go to AirOne, and she said, the only
reason you need to go there isto order the Haley Bieber
smoothie $22.
$22.
Which I've never ordered, so Iordered a Haley Bieber smoothie.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
He did too.
I can just picture you orderingthat.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
But we ordered two of those and then we went down.
Everyone told you how to getthe buffalo cauliflower.
I've had that and then like twoother things and I went to
check out and it was like $128.
Yep and I thought this placelike, it's like, it's like, it's
like our Albertsons freshmarket and I'm like.
(20:28):
And then I went and sat on thepatio and ate it with homeless
guys.
And that's Santa Monica now,that third street promised on it
.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
That sums it up.
That is, that actually sums itup perfectly.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Oh, california, but that's a whole nother podcast.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
That's why we're happy to stay in Idaho and so
we're so excited we want I likehow you got us out of that, yeah
our results are so like we havesuch a high level results like
nine in the 90 percent so you'reso so, so I love that.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
So they're your treatment.
It's you also um so expansionyou had a thoughtful process of
saying, okay, this is sosuccessful, how do we take this
somewhere else?
Speaker 2 (21:09):
We're able to help so many people, even like the most
discouraged of people, and ifthey want help, right, I mean
we're here to help if they wantit.
It's kind of my philosophy, butwe have such a good, such a
high-level result of turningpeople around, helping them like
feel really amazing that it'smost of our, most of my whole
practice is referrals, and sowe're in Sun Valley, which is
like my favorite place in thewhole world.
(21:30):
It's so incredibly gorgeous upthere and it's so amazing and I
love my clinic there there, butthe work is so good, all the
modalities.
So we have over 15 modalitieswe combine.
It's not just the qnrt and theneurofeedback and the amen, but
those are the core modalitiesthat bring the results.
The rest are like more machinesfor like mitochondrial function
, which sets your whole immunesystem right and your whole
energy for your body so cellularrejuvenation, longevity like
(21:53):
feeling better yeah and I needall that you can like I can be
all that can I sign up for allthat?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
I want my mitochondria firing.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I want my you do want it this is amazing and so um,
so we get the brain balance andeven the aim at work.
It's muscular work, it's touchwork, but it has a neuromuscular
component, so it's like thebrain tells the muscles start
firing and it's a permanentcorrection.
So it's really like it's worththe time and the money, right
(22:25):
and so um and so we, you knowit's a small little town, it's
like 2,500 people, and we have alot of people come in from out
of town.
But I feel like we want also abigger audience, like there's so
many people to help.
I mean, I do have a lot ofboise clientele and they're it's
a different set of problemsthan the ketchum people, right,
like they have different thingsgoing on and they're a lot of
(22:45):
them are quite, quite sickthat's true yeah you remember, I
worked in the er up there for along time.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, amazing well, it's like you and it was.
The old morince hospital waslike on the campus of sun valley
lodge before you walked upthere.
Oh yeah, oh, I didn't know thatoh yeah, I worked up there a
lot.
My group covered it, but youwould like you would like go in
one room and take care of therockefeller's great, great
grandson and they wouldliterally one of my favorite
(23:14):
stories got hit in the head witha golf ball walking on the golf
course.
This is a great story.
And how to like?
I'm sure we're past any HIPAAviolation at this point.
I'm sure I'm comfortable Likethere's some like, but anyway,
we can edit it out.
No, this this kid got hit in thehead with a golf ball and came
in and had like a halfcentimeter laceration on his
(23:36):
forehead from the gallbladder.
He was totally doused aroundthe room.
Fine, and the parents are likemy plastic surgeon is flying in
from New York.
I said what?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
And he's like yeah, you didn't cut it for them.
He's on its way.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
We'll get him on the phone for you to tell him.
He'll tell you how he wants thewound treated until he gets
here.
But he's at the airport leaving.
I'm like, hey, your kid's gotlike a.
it'll take me like two seconds,you can choose like glue or a
couple stitches Coke or anelixir, and they literally I put
like just sterile gauze withsome saline on it and they were
(24:13):
in the room while he flew on adirect flight on a private jet
from New York City to Sun Valleyand came in it's a good story.
It's a great story, but why Itell the story is in the very
next room is like a rancher whohad never had health care their
whole life and came in with aheart attack and I'm like.
What alternate universe am I in?
Speaker 2 (24:32):
That's how it is.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
It's a fun place to work and they're really nice
people, but you have literallygenerational wealth.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Generational wealth and then you have some of the
nicest, most humble Idaho.
It was a crazy place to work inthe yard.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
I don't know why I'm telling you this story, except
for it is I can go with it.
I can full circle this.
That's the beautiful thingabout Somalia.
We're quick-minded, anyone.
The beautiful thing aboutSomalia is anyone can choose to
live there because we do believein the natural healing elements
of the world.
Again, we go back to when youdon't have the resources
financially to pay for.
Again, we're solution-basedcare and we do believe pay
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towards health is wealth.
But the healing elements of air, water, sunlight, green, and
part of the reason we love Boiseand want to come here is again
I think it's underappreciatedthe river, I mean mean just
driving in today, so excited forthe river.
Idaho has the number one naturalhot spring, the number one
amount and it's a gem state andwe want to build on that we're
(25:32):
really glad you chose, as I'vegotten to know you guys a lot
and your team and the otherpeople that are around you, like
you could have gone anywhere,and so the fact that you're
staying here in Idaho is awesome.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
I love Idaho yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
And the fact that you'll be close to an airport
where people can fly in, you'llbe where.
So talk a little bit more aboutyour expansion, because I want
to like plug that because it's abig deal.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I know Well, we have a couple of different expansions
going on, so, um, so one of thethings we're setting up, um,
well, so our, so we, we actuallywent and looked, we looked at
spaces in san monica and we, andI was like I am not right off
third street promenade molly'slike can't do it, can't do it.
There's a lot of vacancy downthere right now there is well, I
just I love idaho so much Ifeel my best in the state, like
(26:14):
I love the natural, you know,all the natural elements and so
anyway, so we, with the growthof Boise, right, and all of
Idaho, it just seems natural.
And then I have more and morepeople coming in town from Boise
and all over Idaho and Utah toour clinic and so, yeah, I said
so, I said to my friend Mike, Iwas like find me.
(26:34):
I tell this is exactly what Isaid to him.
I said find me someone who is avisionary, who's in the health
field and who's an establishedreal estate developer.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
There aren't many of you.
Well, I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
So I told him those three criteria and then he's
like oh, you need my friendTommy Alquist.
I was like perfect, can youconnect me with him?
And then that's how it started.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Well, he actually came down with you.
Oh yeah, that was fun, which isvery unlike him.
He's like hey.
So I knew like hey, this isgoing to be good.
Anyway, it's been great andwe're planning the building.
What I love about what we doand this is like a plug for what
we do but when you meet someoneincredible like you and
Christina and you have thisvision for what you want to do
for patients and care.
(27:16):
It really is cool to wrap abuilding around that vision,
because I think it's hard.
I think I mean I really do.
I think there's lots of smallbusiness owners that are in
really crappy real estate space.
And they try to do the best ofcreating a culture, and I think
it's almost cheating for peoplethat get to say what do we want
(27:37):
our space to feel like?
What do we want it to look like?
How?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
do we want?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
it to display our values and our corporate thing.
Well with you, with healthcare,it's even one step more right.
How can you create a space onthe river that speaks to you
moment you walk in from first?
Impression into theinteractions with the people.
(28:00):
It just makes it easier.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
That's what I wanted.
So then, yeah, when I firsttalked to you it's funny, cause
you're like, oh no, we have thebest building first and fourth,
or what is the building called?
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Oh, fourth, and I know.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Fourth, and I know, and I was like in, I was like,
well, no, I actually want theriver.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
So then his next sentence was oh, you want the
river.
We have 10 acres on the riverand I was like, who is this guy?
I was like, okay, let's justmeet in person, because then I
can get an idea of what'shappening here.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
You know, this is like the ultimate salesman, the
next thing you would have saidwe have that too.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
No, we only have two downtown projects by.
I was like wait, how could thisbe?
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I have been known to be prone to hyperbole.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Well, that's why I wasn't sure.
So then, when it came, though,and actually like you, offer me
my dream space.
Yeah, it's awesome With all thecomponents on it that I want
because we're starting an AIMITTeaching Institute, yeah, so we
wanted educational space on itNext to CWI I talked to.
Gordon.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Isn't he amazing.
We needed a school.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
We got a school.
We needed a school and a hotelon site, and you- also provided
that for us.
So your clinic is going to beright next door, so we're going
to be right on the we have thehotel and then we have the river
, which is so important to me toget that outdoor elements.
We have the views of the riverand we also have the views of
the foothills.
It's amazing.
So it just was like I felt likethat was incredible.
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So then I was like, okay, well,then this is, this is.
It feels like a good fit.
So then we're planning that nowand we're planning to offer the
full scope of our care, just abrain-based wellness, and it's
really geared towards likechronic conditions, long-term
conditions that people haven'tare so frustrated they have no
solutions for or acuteconditions, anything and I'm
really excited to see thebuilding shape up, because now
(29:38):
that you're getting kind of onthe inside of the TI thing and
kind of seeing how people willbe affected, I mean it really is
cool.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Like I mean, we all get to do things in our lives,
which is work, right, yeah.
But when you watch work reallycome together and you're like,
oh, I can see how this is goingto change people.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
That's why I told Mike I wanted a visionary.
It's so awesome, because Ineeded someone who could imagine
all these elements, and that'swhat you did.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Well, and I just told , last Thursday and Friday I
volunteered down at Summit.
And so I had two daysvolunteering down there.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
We love, love that building.
We're obsessed with thatbuilding.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
We want to teach in that building.
It's so awesome.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
And, honestly, I got a little emotional the second
day because we graduatedsomebody and so they do 40 days,
two hyperbaric treatments a day, an hour each, and then.
So you're an hour in thechamber, 100% oxygen at two
atmospheres, and then you take afive minute oxygen break in the
hour and then you come out andthen they have housing on site
(30:43):
if you need it, if you're fromout of town or a lot of people
are from in town right now, butanyway, it's always emotional
when someone graduates.
So they're there, end of their40 days, and, um, this guy was
graduating the day I was thereand and I you never know how it
goes, so they do this kind oflittle thing.
He comes out of his lastchamber and they said, um, hey,
um, you know, thank you so much.
It's a big sacrifice to committo 40 days.
They give him some swag.
And then he reached in hispocket and got pretty emotional
and pulled out a speech and hesaid I want to read this to you
(31:07):
so I don't miss anything.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
And he sat and went through all the ways his life
had changed and the differentphysical and emotional things
that have happened to him thereand the gratitude, and I thought
, oh man, so going from like hey.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
What better could there be than that?
There's nothing better.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
There's nothing better, and I know that sounds
corny, but it's just not itdoesn't sound, corny, it's
amazing.
When you do things that resetpeople and help them go out and
be happy and tackle life andfind joy.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Yeah well, we all deserve to have a healthy life,
right, we're designed to.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
So in my mind I was going with that one.
I tell too many stories today,but I can think about your space
and the river and I can almostvisualize how it's going to be
to go there and what it's goingto feel like it's going to be
amazing.
And the things that are goingto happen to people's lives.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, we're just envisioning like on the river,
and then we have we've beenthinking a little outdoor space,
possibly a sculpture garden,but then we have like a.
Really we want a clean, organic, like totally green materials,
natural light.
And then we have all the.
We're working with Brad, wehave the treatment rooms planned
out and then we have differentthings.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
We're super excited, yeah, and again, like the
community aspect of the school,the hotel, us we want to bring
in like retail, like an air one.
Some people can like healthylife, healthy, just expand on
the whole make it a space.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
We want all the components of just.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
you know, after having that space, well it's
been really, really fun for myteam to work with you.
I know Brad and Mark andeveryone's been great.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Yeah, they're amazing .
Your team is incredible.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
I don't deserve them.
Actually, they're the best,they're the most wonderful
people yes, you do.
Brad, we call him ArchitectJesus, and now you know why.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Right, sweet, he's a great guy.
Hey, can we talk about yourpodcast?
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Well, first of all, can we pull up what's the
website for?
Speaker 1 (33:02):
your clinic, drmollybrowncom.
Drmollybrowncom, and I thinkthere's a link to your podcast
right there too.
Yep, right there, soDrMollyBrowncom.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Oh yeah, the podcast is the last tab.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
The podcast is the last tab, so it's a lot of
information about the servicesyou provide your clinic.
Yeah, and then the podcastright there the Future of Health
.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
That's what we call it, yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah, I'm a podcast listening guy, yeah, and so I've
got it right on my so I don'tmiss them, because you know how
they come up next.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Thank you, tommy.
Just so you guys know I mix youguys in with Theo.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Vaughn, I love Theo.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Vaughn too.
He's so funny, he's funny, he'sfunny in small doses, I don't
sometimes I don't like him.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
There are, but there are some times when I am like
that's funny.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
We probably have the same list of people.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
I am laughing out loud, so hard with him.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Yeah he's funny.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
So talk about the podcast.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Why the podcast?
Why the podcast?
How, how it's been?
The podcast has been really funfor us to bring.
Like some of the, there's a lotof innovation happening in the
healthcare space right and inthe health world and wellness
and longevity, and so it'samazing for us to connect with
people from all over the worldreally, and we have a lot of
innovators and we had Dr Buehler, dr Turner.
(34:20):
We recently interviewed thiscompany Super cool, it's called
Solodome.
You would like it.
They kind of recreated the 70segg chair.
Remember that chair?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
You would know it if you saw it.
Yeah, you can picture it.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Well, so what they do is they put frequencies.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
I remember it because I lived through it.
You remember it because youGoogle it.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
It's a design icon, so they put the pulse
frequencies.
It's not music.
Tommy, I love how you crackedyourself up.
That was funny.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
That was awesome.
Do you remember the egg chair?
Yeah, have you ever Googledthat?
No, I was born in the 60s,molly.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Okay.
Well, you've gotten your firstair.
One smoothie, that's a start.
So they're posting frequencies,but they're having the
companies growing right now, andit's a sound, can we?
Speaker 1 (35:16):
look it up.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Vibro.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Acoustic Therapy, vibro Acoustic Therapy, vibro
Acoustic Therapy it's a businesspartnership of a businessman
who did the soundtrack forFriends, yeah.
And then Solodome isS-O-L-O-D-O-M-E.
And then he partnered with asound, mechanical and
architectural engineer and theypulse frequencies through the
chair and they've had amazingresults Google Solodome.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Google Solodome S-O-L-O.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yeah, solodome, google Solodome S-O-L-O.
Yeah, solodome, but they've hadgreat results with Parkinson's
and autism and if you look uptheir social media.
So they're just starting out,but we interviewed them and they
were really fun, and then it'sfun to connect with people from
all over the world, as I'm sure.
Well, you stay mostly in Boise,right there.
There it is.
Oh wow, so then it uses pulsefrequency stuff?
(36:06):
no, so there's speakers in theum, in the chairs and it
immerses you in sound okay andthey're having great results
with parkinson's and autism andlike all sorts of like nhd pain
you can actually use thefrequencies that match the same
brain load.
So that's what this is cool, Iknow I told you that I I told
you that I, like like about sixmonths ago, did the sauna thing
(36:28):
in the cold plunge, and then Ibought me the brain yeah, the
brain tap is what we use, braintap but they have the neurotonal
frequencies with the lights ohyeah, and then you do a
meditation while you do it andit's supposed to be really
helpful now I'm not sure.
I'm not sure you're pressing meright and left now that we're
done with diet coke after todayafter today, you please stop,
(36:51):
because it's not good for youthis is cool, so you had this
guy on so we had them on and itwas really cool, like, um,
they're kind of just startingout, but you can literally
that's what neurofeedback is.
You match the frequency, you useharmonics and you train the
brain out of anxiety or traumapatterns.
The neurofeedback is incredible.
It changed my whole life, likeall the work we use has changed
my life.
But um, they are.
(37:13):
We're going to match thedifferent brain lobes.
So there's certain protocolsfor stress tolerance, which
improves immunity and improvessleep and creates a higher theta
brain wave and decreases thebeta if it's out of balance and
then your anxiety goes away.
It's the most magical.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Without even talking about it.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Chronic chronic anxiety it changes your life.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
I've learned a lot about this, like last month.
It's cool, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
It's super cool.
And then the trauma markerslike you can, you can train the
brain to increase the alphabrainwave and that's what we
look at as trauma markers.
There's focus protocols and so,anyways, we might be working
with them to use those specificprotocols in the chairs, not
only for the general, likenervous system balance, but to
really target the differentbrain waves we're working on,
(37:59):
which then we can improvequickly anxiety, depression,
focus, concentration, traumaprocessing.
We can do all that.
That's what we do with thenerve feedback.
If we can bring the chair in, Imean it looks super cool.
So I think it could be a goodcollaboration we do with them.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
That's why the podcast has been incredibly
helpful, though is because Iknow we're spitting out a lot of
terminology and, like it's,we're going really quick here
here, but the podcast has been agreat, great tool and it gets
way deeper into these differentmodalities that we use so that
people can get a betterunderstanding again.
Until you experience itfirsthand really hard to wrap
your head around, but these uhpodcast episodes are giving
(38:36):
people a much betterunderstanding and depth of what
we do.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Well, we've talked a little bit about this are we we
wearing you out, tommy?
No, no, give him some moreelixir, no we talked a little
bit about this, but I think theAmerican healthcare system and
patients are craving this right.
That's exactly it.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
It's a huge opportunity for alternative and
natural care if you havesolution-based care, which is
what we consider ourselves.
I think, like you know thechronic illness, I think like we
all need the acute care, rightLike the ER docs are so needed
and in such an important job fortrauma or accidents or whatever
it is.
But for chronic illness it'sjust mostly preventable.
(39:14):
But and also anxiety,depression and trauma, you can't
always.
I mean, I really love thatnatural approach because it's
sustainable and it givessolutions and it's a long-term
and it gets better and betterover time.
You can't band-aid yourself alot of times with well, it's in
(39:35):
a lot of our podcasts, rightLike the people who are going to
the long COVID clinics for likeyears, four years in one in one
reset, the long COVID symptomsare totally gone and so that's
the results we can deliver overand over.
And it's um, I use I do usesome supplementation, but it's
just to accelerate the result.
It's not I'm not supplementbased Like some people yeah,
(39:58):
some people use like 20supplements.
Right, it's an allopathicapproach with herbs, but we're
talking brain-based wellness.
It's totally different.
You change and balance thebrain and calm the nervous
system down and the immunesystem and the body, the organs
and glands start functioningimmediately.
You can do it with blood sugarregulation.
You can do it with kidneyfunction, liver function.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
So your point is if that's in balance, then your
body's immune system will takecare of those things.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
If your brain has shut down the liver, for
instance, and it can't detoxifyproperly.
You can turn the function ofliver on by working with the
brain, and that's what we do.
It's a totally differentapproach.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
But you can take all the supplements in the world and
it's not going to help it.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
It gets turned off.
So we're in for all the peoplelistening out there that they
should do.
Like what are your like?
Basic health and wellness nocoke.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
We got no coke.
Diet coke well, I think that's.
You have diet coke that's all Idrink.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Oh, you thought you didn't know that.
I thought it was a regular noit's diet coke, so I've been
diet coke for 50 years, but butit's a neurotoxin.
Now you're an elixir guy but insome ways isn't it comforting?
Speaker 2 (41:00):
beyond that, I've consumed that much on the ranch
with the elixir guy, but in someways isn't it comforting that
I've consumed that much?
Be on the ranch with theelixirs.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
So give us your top tips for people listening for
health, longevity and wellness.
Just for the average 40 to 50to 60-year-old person that's
listening to this male or female, what are the things they
should do every day?
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Oh, every day, oh every day.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Yeah, Like what are like what's your routine?
Speaker 3 (41:25):
We love routine, yeah .
Speaker 2 (41:26):
So, um well, first of all, like the food that is just
full of chemicals.
Like healthy whole food, right?
Speaker 1 (41:33):
So healthy whole food , no chemical like the I've
heard the aisles in the storystay off of and all the stuff
that's fresh is on the exteriorwall, which is usually true.
That's where the produce andfresh stuff is.
You don't grow all your ownstuff, do you?
Speaker 2 (41:49):
No, no, I don't do that.
So just whole healthy food,right.
Lots of water, movement,movement.
We are in Idaho, right, so wecan be in the mountains, we can
be in the rivers, we can just beoutside all the time.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
And the best part is outside, if you can be outside
sunlight.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (42:12):
What do you think about the morning sunlight thing
that he room and talks a lotabout?
Speaker 2 (42:15):
So good.
All of those things are so goodbecause they can establish
routines Like you want toestablish your circadian rhythms
.
It's where you get the sunriseand the sunset.
It's the only time you have tolook at the sun like that to
establish your circadian rhythms.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
It's the sunrise and sunset, so it's first thing in
the morning is what you hear.
It's not for a very long periodof time.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
I love the cold plunging Like I got really into
cold plunging for a while Not asmuch this winter, but but it
literally makes you feel likethe most amazing.
But I like going in the rivers,not the.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Do you do it in the morning or night?
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Morning because it's really energizing.
It keeps you in a reallypositive, energized state all
day long.
And I love saunas, but all thenatural things are really good
and then I but a lot of timespeople just don't have to damage
themselves.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Are there any supplements we should take every
day?
Speaker 2 (42:59):
I take, like B vitamins and magnesium, and it's
also again with the supplements.
It's the quality.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Magnesium glycinate.
How many milligrams?
Speaker 2 (43:07):
That's so impressive, tommy.
Glycinate three and eight isgood and magnesium chelate is
what I take.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
How much?
Speaker 2 (43:17):
I take.
Like the form I have, I taketwo capsules.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
I'm just asking a recommendation, Dr Molly.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
It's different for everyone, but you generally
can't take too much magnesium.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
It's all the process of the body, but it's super
important, right yeah?
Speaker 2 (43:27):
I like magnesium.
I like the full-spectrum Bvitamins and B12.
Okay, especially if peopledon't methylate, like the
quality of the supplement isreally important, right?
So I like some of thesupplements we have.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
You know what I do?
I just go to Amazon, costco themost expensive one is that's
what I buy.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Because I think it's got to be higher quality.
You have to be careful onAmazon.
I heard that.
So I go right to the company.
But just the basics D3, k2, band magnesium are a good start,
but it's not really about thesupplements so much as like.
Why take the supplements ifyou're eating unhealthy food?
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Yeah, Well, I think, in our climate and with our
darkness.
I think D3 is super and I thinkB because of the.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
I think that Everyone needs the B vitamins.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
It supports the brain , liver and I think magnesium.
It's hard to get enough of thatjust from well, it's because
our, our food sources are sodemineralized right now, because
the soil is de-mineralized, sohopefully that's changing right
now.
Um, with their, you know,getting a lot of chemicals out
of the food and out of the water.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Do you eat meat?
Speaker 2 (44:39):
um, so I I haven't been talking about.
I've been here for like 22years or more, but recently,
when I was in norway this june,um, I started having a little
fish, um, but for 22 years isvery, very.
I love the plant-based diet I Ilike not eating meat.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Everyone's different though you've heard my
plant-based diet story right.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
No, please tell me.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
It's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
So when I had my heart attack.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
I had open heart surgery and then I had a heart
attack right.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Yeah, I heard that, and so I hired me a dietician.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Oh, and she was awesome.
She was really great here inBoise yes, cooking to the house
everything.
And I was committed.
I'm like, because I'm committed, I'm going to be vegan now
because you can reverse coronaryartery disease if you do, and
all this stuff right.
So I did it for like six monthshow'd you feel?
I gained like 15 pounds becausedo you know that?
(45:37):
Um, oreos are vegan?
I do know that Vegan does notmean healthy.
That's exactly right.
You can be really honest.
Oreos are vegan.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
LA is the vegan restaurants there, the amount of
oils and just it's so bad.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
So I gained weight and I was like by the end of it
I honestly Didn't feel good.
No, I just am like if I can'tlike go barbecue like one of my
own cows and I can't like cookfish that I got in Alaska, it's
kind of like not worth livingand I think it's okay for you,
it's totally okay, it doesn'teven matter.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
I don't think it matters, as long as you're like
whole food and healthy sources.
I'm sure a lot happier If youhave the healthiest sources of
meat and fish, which sounds likeyou do, like I don't think it
matters too much.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
It's just when you get the process yeah, it's the
quality, but everybody'sdifferent.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
And going back to your question about what do we
do?
How do we stay healthy?
It's we are our own biggestadvocates and we have to protect
our peace.
As people who are helping otherpeople, we have to stay healthy
, and for us that looks similar,but like different at the same
time, like we know what keeps usgoing and fueled up, and like
it's personalized, right.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
I mean, yeah, I'm a little different from most
people.
I love eating just likesuperfoods, like the elixirs and
the plant-based foods, like Ilove it, but I don't expect
everyone to eat like that.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
But that maintenance is so important and again, like
it's not okay, you don't want togo to the doctor when you're on
your last leg or like whenyou're already at the worst.
It's a sense of maintenance andmaintenance and you have to
like it's a whole body.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
It's all you have to keep it going.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
It's not.
You don't just all of a suddenone day, do it for a week and
then let it die off again andthen go again, Like it's a
constant effort you're puttinginto yourself and that's like
the most important thing.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
I'm glad you hit that .
It's like all of the littlefatty things are, like the come
and go, it's long, it's it'sdoing something consistently
over time, and I've heard from alot of different people that
are in this that it's reallylike three months to see any
results and then at six monthsyou'll see a little bit of
results and you really startseeing the results of your
efforts after a year.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
And then it maintains itself.
Because the way it works is youstart feeling so good.
You never not want to feel good.
That's how I am with food, likeI don't eat anything.
That makes me feel bad.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
I don't.
My part is the busyness of lifeand I've got a, and I think
people deal with that too.
I just go through times andI've been in one of those right
now where I just like I I'm justtoo busy.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
I'm just it's an excuse, you just it's an excuse,
but then what happens?
Because it's like what happensto normal people.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
Well, normal people like that, like you, then like
go, I feel like crap because I'mnot doing my, my routine.
And then when you don't feel.
That's when it's harder to doit Right.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
And then, and then it's time.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
for me it's like it's like prioritizing my health so
that I can be healthy foreverything else.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Last year I was going into a really big year and I
knew I had to like be at my verybest Cause, like I have to be
like really hot, like top 0.01%,just be able to help people in
the way I want to.
And so I knew I was going to bebusier.
And that's when I was doing thecold plunging every morning and
it like really it's like, it'slike so, it's like high energy
(48:30):
in the morning and puts you in areally positive state, floods
your body with neurotransmittersand you just feel really good.
So I did that like literallyevery morning.
I don't think I miss a beat andit really benefited me to stay
really positive Because we'reall so busy, right, but that's
where I come back to in themorning.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
The other thing about doing it in the morning is that
that's where you have thecontrol right, and I'm an
evening sauna and cold plungeguy, just because you are Well.
I have been, just because it'sa time thing, right?
So if I'm going to wake up andgo look in the sun and take my
dogs for a walk and stretch anddo a workout and do some cardio
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and read the Bible.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
Your wife is like where's Tommy?
I was like he's sun gazing.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
Sounds lovely.
But if you do all that and youadd a, sauna on and you add a
cold plug on, so you have towake up at 4.30.
You have to wake up at 4.30.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
You really do to get all the stuff in.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
But no, I love the morning.
Do you wake up that early?
Yeah, usually I do.
Five, maybe.
What's the time you go to bed?
Speaker 2 (49:33):
It depends.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
Let's talk about sleep here, Molly.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
Yeah, I love waking up to doing the morning
meditation.
I think that, like, spiritualpractice in the morning is
really important, so, like themorning meditation, and then it
just sets the tone for a reallyhappy day.
I feel like you can getpositively focused and then I go
on from there, whatever it isyoga, Pilates, cold punch,
whatever it is, whatever youhave time for that day, and then
you're really focused for work,but I too.
(49:57):
At the end of the day, we'reboth exhausted.
Speaker 3 (50:07):
We go to bed pretty early like I'm like wrapping up
at the end of the day, yeah, andmy time is, like you know,
sleep is my achilles heel.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
I need a like, a minimum seven, but like I'm a
good, eight to nine hours, areyou my?
My son-in-law has been out oftown this week, so our grandkids
have been over every day.
Oh my gosh amazing when theythey're like the best thing, the
entire.
They're so awesome, so awesome.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
How old are they?
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Five, three and eight months.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
Oh my gosh but when they leave.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
It's just like I am like exhausted.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
Exhausted.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
Yeah, I don't know.
I look at my poor daughter andI'm like oh, bless your heart.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
Yeah, it's hard.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
I got to take him to karate last night so that she
had a little break.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
Oh, oh fun.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
Hey, super fun, we're like over time.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
Oh, we are Okay.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
That went by fast.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
Thank you so much for having us, Tommy, Just a few
things.
Speaker 3 (50:46):
So we're working on, obviously, Boise, we're creating
, hopefully, the Amen Instituteand expanding brain-based
wellness knowledge and in themeantime, we are hopefully well,
we are partnering with SunValley.
Sun Valley, yeah, and we'rewellness kind of again like
prioritizing your health,keeping that maintenance,
whether it's an individual orsetting like groups and teams.
(51:06):
We are creating a three-daywellness program with Sun Valley
and no better place to do it.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
No better place.
So, drmollybrowncom.
Speaker 2 (51:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
Podcast can link right there All the updates from
the clinic and everything.
We will have you back on soon.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
We'll have you on too , Tommy.
The future of Boise.
The future of Boise.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
I've listened to your podcast, the future of the ER
docs.
They would not have some likeyeah.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
No, no, we'd be honored to have you.
Wait, do you want to do thefuture?
Speaker 3 (51:36):
of ER docs.
Our whole concept is the futureof or the future of real estate
development in boise you coulddo the future of reform.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
Diet coke yes hey this was fun okay thanks for not
giving me too bad of a time.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
I can't wait to be your biggest fan.
Speaker 1 (51:51):
Watch your building come together and watch you guys
change lives.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
It's really cool yeah , thank you so much thanks, so
much thanks everybody.
Today on the Ever Onward podcast, we have Dr Molly
Brown and Christina Walaleca.
They are founders of theCentered Clinic in Sun Valley,
idaho, and also the CenteredPodcast.
They are great friends.
They're going to be opening oneof their clinics here in Boise
and we wanted to have them on totalk about their alternative
treatment for so many differentthings.
(00:21):
They're making such atremendous impact on healing and
helping people and they will beopening a clinic here in Boise.
We're really excited to get anupdate from them on their
international travel, all thebusiness they're doing and talk
about wellness in Idaho.
Molly and Christina.
(00:44):
Hi, tommy, I'm nervous becauseI'm like you guys have your own
podcast.
It's a big deal.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
You've already tried to like big shot us and not wear
your headsets.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Thank, you for coming on today.
We're okay with the headsets.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I'm really, really excited to talk to you.
You're welcome and you just gotback from Germany.
We were just talking about it.
I wanted to get it on thepodcast, so we're live.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
You get comfortable Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Um, you're everywhere , but you just got back from
Germany.
Tell us about that.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Two days in and out that's how we like to roll.
Four days in Germany.
Well, two of the days weretravel.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
So we went to, we went to Germany to present the
sports medicine work that we doand we presented it to some,
some doctors over there and they, it's such different and
innovative work that we, youknow, we don't know, and so we
don't know if people will get itor not, like, but they did,
they loved it and we had areally successful trip and, um,
(01:45):
it was Christine and I and DrBuehler and, uh, his wife Janet,
and it was a big success, hugesuccess.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
It started off with a huge presentation day.
A lot of people from around theworld came and presented what
they've been working on in termsof athletic in the United
States and people came in one,but others besides us.
And then we did a demo daywhich really hooked everyone.
Most of the people from the daybefore showed up.
And then, I think, molly and DrBuehler, and we were in there
(02:14):
for eight hours, one by one.
Everyone was like me next, menext, me next.
It was crazy Awesome.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
It was cool, like the aim at work is the sports
medicine work we do, which likeclears pain instantly, and it's
incredible work.
There's nothing like it outthere.
And so, um, we yeah, we hadthis whole lineup of the top
sports medicine doctors and theywere all got up and they were
like this is super impressive.
They all felt immediatedifferences.
So um it was.
(02:42):
It was really cool one the oneof the doctors that in his
clinic his son is a strong man.
Do you know what that is?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, we did, you did it.
It's a strong man.
It's kind of like a monstertruck ride yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
You're back in Idaho.
We get monster trucks, strongman competition, yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
So he was a strong man, so he worked on his knee
and he really loved the work andhe works in his dad's clinic
and so that was pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
So he has a competition this week, so we'll
have to see how he went, how hedid.
We're going to jump all overthe place intentionally, but
tell us more about the work.
How is it different?
Because we're going to get intoyou guys and all the great
things.
You're going on how we met andall that we'll get into.
But your specific treatment isis not traditional, but it's
very proven.
It's, it's backed with results.
(03:32):
And tell us exactly what it is,because I think it is so
revolutionary and you're goingto be bringing this to the
treasure Valley.
I've been wanting to have youon.
We'll get into all that, buttalk about the treatment.
Let's start with the main thinghere.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Well in in my clinic.
It's a neurologically basedapproach and it's all natural
medicine.
So we have a huge scope of work.
We have 15 different modalities, but our core modalities are
the aim at work, which is forpain and sports performance.
And it's literally like if youhave an acute injury, sprained
ankle or pulled hamstring, whichisn't usually what does it
stand for?
Advanced muscle integrationtechnique or therapy.
(04:03):
So.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
AMET AMIT yeah, amit.
Amit.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Integration Advanced Muscular Integration.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Technique Okay great.
So that work, it literallysaves people decades of pain and
it stabilizes your muscularsystem, your neuromuscular
system.
So it's like a 10-minute toturn on to.
So we start by checking themuscles and see if they're
inhibited or engaged.
If the muscles inhibited, likea common sprained ankle, right
(04:30):
it's, it's a 10 minute fix.
If it's an acute sprained ankle, if it's more than 48 hours.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Thank you so much.
So for those watching on hey,for those watching we're
replacing the Cokes.
I may or may not have had aDiet Coke addiction for my
entire life, oh my gosh.
So actually, when I knew you,were your entire life.
Well, as far back as I canremember, I mean.
I'm sure there's part, but, likeas an ER doctor, I drank well.
(04:58):
So anyway, you always give me ahard time.
We're going to get into thestory, and when I knew you were
coming on the podcast thismorning because I just did one,
I have already had three32-ounce Diet Cokes this morning
and I was going to hide my DietCoke so that I didn't get
shamed.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Oh no, I'm not a shamer.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
And you showed up and you're like.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
No, I brought something better.
These are the Curious.
Okay, tell me, these areactually amazing.
They curious elixirs.
Curious elixirs, yeah, sothey're um non-alcoholic elixirs
and so you get they're likekind of like a party drink, but
this is the orange, ginseng andbasil and it's energizing and
you serve it over ice orangeginseng and basil yes, it's very
energizing, but it's muchbetter yeah so what's most
(05:38):
embarrassing is, in our entireoffice, which we pride ourselves
on having all things to snacksand everything else, we did not
have a clear cup.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
We only had.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
We got one now.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
So, alex, thank you Wherever you had to go to get
these, but we are trying Elixir.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Try it.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
We're going to throw out the Cokes.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
That's really good.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Because we have to upgrade your health.
The.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Cokes are really damaging.
I'm not just saying it, that'ssuper, it's amazing.
Yeah, yeah, I expected it totaste?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
No, it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
We did that, me and Shanna did that juice thing for
a week one time.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Oh you did.
I love juice.
Oh, I didn't make it, Did youlike it?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
No, we made it like because they give you the whole
week's worth, right which?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
one did you do?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I can't remember, it's been too long, but I like
the one that tastes like orangejuice and all the rest of them.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Let me tell you something about being healthy
and focusing on longevity.
You can always find somethingthat tastes good, that works,
whether, again, it's a gluten,whether it's an allergy for food
, or it's like again replacing acoke with something that's
actually healthy for you andfuels you.
You can always find somethingthat tastes good that's why I
brought it.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
This is really good.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
You have to come into our world, Tommy From organic
and natural low-sugar chocolatesto juices.
I was going to bring thechocolates, but last time I
brought them you ate them sofast.
I don't think you appreciatedthem.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
So we really like them.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Man.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
This is going to be a long hour, it's going to be a
long hour.
So we're going to go back.
So you just got back, so we didthis, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
So the aim at work.
It's taught by Dr Buehler outof Utah and he's worked with it
at the highest levels of sportsperformance.
Utah Jazz, the BYU basketballteam, went to zero missed games
for injuries when he was workingwith them.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Amazing, like the top skiers and snowboarders in the
world University of Utah.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Amazing, like the top skiers and snowboarders in the
world University of Utah, he'swon I think his athletes have
won a total of three gold medalsat the Olympics.
One of them couldn't stand sixweeks before her gold medal and
he did a concussion techniqueand she won gold six weeks later
.
And so we have a lot of successwith that work.
It's for pain and sportsperformance and just for
(07:56):
everyone to be active.
Your body is designed to moveright, so you, you want to stay
as active as possible throughoutyour life.
It's no, like there's no suchthing, like I don't really see
that there's a decline thatshould ever happen.
People should stay reallyactive throughout their life.
Like all that aches and painspeople think are normal.
They're not normal, we canclear them and so it's a really
result.
I work with a lot of kids anduse sports and the sprained
(08:18):
ankles we can end them instantly.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
The hamstrings Well, this is how I met you, so let's
start there.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
So, my really good friend Mike Boren, yes, mine too
Is your really good friend, notChristina's yet.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
He's an unbelievable guy and he called me and said
hey, you have to meet Dr MollyBrown, you have to meet her.
It's like he tells me this bigstory and you would take care of
him and his family, his son,and he's got these stories of
like, hey, this is the thing.
So he introduced us because youhave a clinic, so let's get
into your core business, andthen we'll talk about the
podcast and you guys not like?
(08:52):
There's so many things to talkabout.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
This is going to go by really fast.
This is what we want to talkabout, and we have a really long
list.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
It's a really long list.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Anything you want to talk about.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
So that's how we met, because your clinic in Sun
Valley, idaho, there's so manyand now that I've gotten to know
you, so many people know you.
Oh really.
Oh yes, molly Brown, it's great.
But yes, molly Brown, it'sgreat, but the point is you were
looking for a place down hereto bring these same services
here to a bigger area closer toan airport.
(09:20):
You could have gone to LA, youcould have gone to wherever, but
you're going to do this here inBoise.
So we've had the pleasure ofgetting to know you through that
.
We're targeting down on theriver in the new project we're
doing and working with you.
So, as I've gotten to know you,it's been incredible.
And the new project we're doingand working with you.
So, as I've gotten to know you,it's been incredible.
So talk a little bit about yourcore business, how it started,
and then whatever you want totalk about, and then you guys.
(09:43):
There's like so many things.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
So many things.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
And I'll sit here and drink my elixir.
My Diet Coke is within reach,though.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
No, it's not.
Can you please get rid of it?
Um, so my clinic has developedover time, obviously, but I have
two core modalities.
It's both the aim at work andthe q and rt that we combine
with neurofeedback okay it's allbrain-based wellness.
Christine and I are superpassionate about the brain-based
approach because, um, you cannever heal the body, basically
(10:13):
from the neck down, like youcan't just over, like take IVs
every day, or you know peoplecome in and they take they're
taking 20 different supplementsor you know we're on five
different meds, or I've listenedto a couple of your podcasts
where you've had some peoplecome in that were on crazy,
crazy stories of results.
Yeah, we it's like one in 10Americans are on antidepressants
, and you know they.
(10:33):
Those medications can haveserious side effects.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
So well, they're also not solutions and a lot of
times your body can't assimilatecertain things that you're
feeding it when you're in a badplace so my passion in life has
always been like a very natural,clean approach and, um, for my
own self, I've worked throughautoimmune issues.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I've had a lot of sports injury.
I've had, you know, as a soccerplayer I've had a lot of sports
injury.
I've had, you know, as a soccerplayer, I've had a lot of
injuries and just all sorts ofthings that I couldn't find
solutions for and so, kind offor survival right, I've found
solutions.
I found different solutions andwhen I find something
incredible, I bring it into myclinic now, and so we have a
scope of work of over 15different modalities.
(11:14):
Christine and I both practicethe QNRT and the neurofeedback
and that's the work that'samazing.
For autoimmune anxiety,depression, trauma, it's the
most incredible.
Like both of us, when we foundthat work, we had the feeling
that, like for me, I had thefeeling I was like I would have
looked my entire life for thiswork.
(11:35):
It is so powerful.
I would have looked my entirelife for this work.
It is so powerful.
It encompasses emotional work,spiritual work, physical work,
physiological, organoglandularautoimmune, everything you can
think of.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
We like to use the term resilience because I
practice marriage and familytherapy and I've spent a lot of
my life dealing again withhealth issues that stem from
more brain, like depression,anxiety, all of the above.
And I went into therapy forthose reasons and I got a lot of
great results.
But it took a lot, a lot oftime.
(12:07):
I mean, I've been in therapyfor 20 years and been practicing
now for a while.
But the QNRT was like aninstant success point and what
you do in therapy is you talkabout issues and it's great for
communication, it's great forrelationships, but at the same
time it's really hard to trainthat 95 to 98% of our thoughts
that are subconscious thoughtsand the conscience like you
(12:29):
can't looking in a mirror everyday and trying to tell yourself
something that you don't trulybelieve.
It's really hard to break thatnegative thought pattern in that
cycle and I know a lot ofpeople struggle with it and
having a safe space to talkabout your issues is really
important, which is wheretherapy comes in.
But the Q and R T work.
It is instantly resetting yourneural pathways.
It is allowing you to move onfrom this past trauma that's
been holding you back and livingwith you.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I am Remember.
You've always make fun of me.
No, no, no, we will never dothat.
We only uplift people.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
You do every time we're together, but ER doctor
right, so Western medicine,neanderthal, the best kind of
doctor.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Well, no, it's like broken bone.
Do that, I mean, it's justthat's what we do you need the
ER?
Doctors, you need ER doctors.
Yeah, you guys hate us untilyou need us.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
No, no, no.
Then you want us to fix stuff.
We need the acute care.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
You are not bamboozlers you want us to do
CPR, you want us to like whenyou need something, set a bone,
set right.
But I have learned a lotrecently and it makes sense to
me.
This is where I'm going to go,and you're going to critique my
very simplistic way ofexplaining what you do.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
I think that Tommy, you're one of the most amazing
people we've ever met.
We talk about this often.
We really enjoy you.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I do think that if you look at mental illness, or
whatever the trauma people gothrough, because we do a lot of
work with veterans down at ourclinic Summit Hyperbarics but
the way I like to explain it topeople is your brain is this
organ that has these synapses atthe end of it, and then your
body has this sympathetic thingthat's fight or flight, and then
(14:03):
there's the parasympatheticthat regulates you down right
and over time, with trauma, withall of the things that happen
to people in life and back andforth, people can get
overwhelmed in their sympatheticnervous system for whatever.
It's just firing, firing, firing, firing, firing, and you think
about what happens at thatneurotransmitter level every
time.
It fires and fires, and fires,and fires, and you're anxious
(14:25):
all the time and then it leadsyou to be more anxious and it
leads you to be, and in themiddle of it you're trying to
deal with relationships or lifeor past trauma or whatever.
It makes 100% sense to me that,yes, you need to do counseling
and you need to talk about thosethings, but you also need a
reset in some way of yourparasympathetic nervous system,
(14:46):
so that you're not always inthis fight or flight sympathetic
thing.
I think that that is what thisthe basis of a lot of these
really good therapies are thatyou're talking about is a reset.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Is that?
Does that make sense?
It's literally a QNRT reset.
Good job, Tommy, you figured usout so proud.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
No, so the QNRT is a nervous system reset.
So the way we explain it isthat it actually resets your
nervous system at the level ofthe brain and the central
nervous system, and it'smiraculous with autoimmune or
like chronic issues, like ifpeople are looping.
You know those people that areso fired up they react to
everything.
It's amazing for those peopleand which is kind of like
(15:28):
everybody.
So one of the things I want totalk, especially post-pandemic,
yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
So let's say you have that going on and you have an
underlying anxiety or thing.
It makes you feel more anxious.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
The example I would use from the ER let me go back
to like the Neanderthal thing iswhen you have people
hyperventilating, the sensationof hyperventilating makes you
more anxious makes you get tonic, tonic get you everything going
on Right and then and then,ultimately you pass out if you
don't control that.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
But I don't know how many times I've had to sit with
somebody and say, but thatfiring all the time.
And there are people that justlive like that.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Oh, for sure.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
And then, on top of it, they turn to medication.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
And then the medications have side effects.
And then they try anothermedication and it has side
effects.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
And then it can be serious side effects.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
But you can see how people get in trouble, right?
Oh, for sure, because peopledon't want to feel like this.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
That's why I'm so passionate about what I do Like.
My passion in life is turningsomeone with like kind of the
dull, sad eyes right and likelow energy and pain all the time
.
Five days at our clinic andthey are full of light.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Who's the guy you just had on your podcast
Functioning?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
happy people Jordan.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
What was the last name?
Sofro?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Sofro, yeah, jordan.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, it was an awesome episode.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Skipping out.
That's a common thing too.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
I mean listening to him from the start of that and
then going through and you talkthat's what made me think of
that, as you talked about whathis eyes, and from the start,
His skin was actually gray whenhe came in because he was so
unhealthy and just so trapped inpain all the time and he was on
all these medications.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
We see, after a couple of days people just
literally brighten up.
Their skin is healthy, theireyes are bright, they're full of
energy and they're laughing.
They're coming laughing andrelaxing.
At first they're really tenseenergy and they're laughing.
They're coming laughing andrelaxing.
At first they're like reallytense and downhearted.
But that is like.
My absolute passion in life islike that transformation where
people are just downtrodden bylife and they're amazing people
with a lot of talents Right.
(17:27):
And then we can turn themaround, like what a gift to give
to somebody, right.
Like you can turn them aroundand they're passionate about
life they can give back to otherpeople and their community and
their kids and their betterparents and partners and
everything, and there's momentumthat comes with it.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
So once you're not sympathetic and you're in this
parasympathetic state where youcan take, it in and you can calm
and you can process, and thenyou're happy and then you do
things there, you engage otherpeople, and then that builds, I
mean, just like people canspiral out of control.
You can also gain momentum onthe other side, where you start
being happy and feeling happy.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
And that's why it's so great for like relationships
and work environments andfriendships and you just start
thriving.
But you bring up a really goodpoint with the again.
This is what we call itbrain-based wellness.
But a lot of people are stuckin these anxiety states or it's
just in their head and it'sconstant and they can't get out
of it.
And as a doctor, I reallyappreciate you saying that.
But, like, sometimes you alsohave like a pain and you don't
(18:25):
put two and two together, thatyou're living in this cycle of
like I'm constantly hurting andI don't even know if it's
hurting anymore, but I'm livingwith this hurt and I think it's
hurting.
And being able to communicatewhat's really going on from
someone not in a with aprofessional medical background
is really difficult.
So we call it self-advocation.
But you have to be able to lookat the whole picture and look
(18:46):
at your body and look at yourbrain and say, okay, are there a
lot of things going on and arethey all stemming from one place
?
Do we need to peel back theonion one layer at a time?
Are they separate?
How do we make this work andget the person living and
feeling their best?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
It's awesome.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, it's really, it's amazing.
It's like the most amazingthing ever.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Like you had the dude on the spiritual dude Dr
Cousins.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Yeah, he's amazing.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah, he's amazing.
That was a little trippy.
The first one was a lot betterthan the second one.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
The first one was a lot better than the second one,
the Elixir.
Well, you also mixed them.
I wasn't going to say no, no,no, no, they're all the same
flavor.
No, this is blood orange.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I like the blood orange.
This is Sicilian blood orange,oh you got the pomegranate.
That is my favorite.
Oh, this is yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I like the blood orange.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yeah, the blood orange.
I'm used to artificialsweetener.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
You should change that, though you should.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
I realized that and I now.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I thought we were on an Air One kick.
We thought of you, tommy, wewere in Air One.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I think that's the last time you made fun of me
because I went down to SantaMonica with my son and my
daughter told me to go to AirOne, and she said, the only
reason you need to go there isto order the Haley Bieber
smoothie $22.
$22.
Which I've never ordered, so Iordered a Haley Bieber smoothie.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
He did too.
I can just picture you orderingthat.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
But we ordered two of those and then we went down.
Everyone told you how to getthe buffalo cauliflower.
I've had that and then like twoother things and I went to
check out and it was like $128.
Yep and I thought this placelike, it's like, it's like, it's
like our Albertsons freshmarket and I'm like.
(20:28):
And then I went and sat on thepatio and ate it with homeless
guys.
And that's Santa Monica now,that third street promised on it
.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
That sums it up.
That is, that actually sums itup perfectly.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Oh, california, but that's a whole nother podcast.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
That's why we're happy to stay in Idaho and so
we're so excited we want I likehow you got us out of that, yeah
our results are so like we havesuch a high level results like
nine in the 90 percent so you'reso so, so I love that.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
So they're your treatment.
It's you also um so expansionyou had a thoughtful process of
saying, okay, this is sosuccessful, how do we take this
somewhere else?
Speaker 2 (21:09):
We're able to help so many people, even like the most
discouraged of people, and ifthey want help, right, I mean
we're here to help if they wantit.
It's kind of my philosophy, butwe have such a good, such a
high-level result of turningpeople around, helping them like
feel really amazing that it'smost of our, most of my whole
practice is referrals, and sowe're in Sun Valley, which is
like my favorite place in thewhole world.
(21:30):
It's so incredibly gorgeous upthere and it's so amazing and I
love my clinic there there, butthe work is so good, all the
modalities.
So we have over 15 modalitieswe combine.
It's not just the qnrt and theneurofeedback and the amen, but
those are the core modalitiesthat bring the results.
The rest are like more machinesfor like mitochondrial function
, which sets your whole immunesystem right and your whole
energy for your body so cellularrejuvenation, longevity like
(21:53):
feeling better yeah and I needall that you can like I can be
all that can I sign up for allthat?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
I want my mitochondria firing.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I want my you do want it this is amazing and so um,
so we get the brain balance andeven the aim at work.
It's muscular work, it's touchwork, but it has a neuromuscular
component, so it's like thebrain tells the muscles start
firing and it's a permanentcorrection.
So it's really like it's worththe time and the money, right
(22:25):
and so um and so we, you knowit's a small little town, it's
like 2,500 people, and we have alot of people come in from out
of town.
But I feel like we want also abigger audience, like there's so
many people to help.
I mean, I do have a lot ofboise clientele and they're it's
a different set of problemsthan the ketchum people, right,
like they have different thingsgoing on and they're a lot of
(22:45):
them are quite, quite sickthat's true yeah you remember, I
worked in the er up there for along time.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, amazing well, it's like you and it was.
The old morince hospital waslike on the campus of sun valley
lodge before you walked upthere.
Oh yeah, oh, I didn't know thatoh yeah, I worked up there a
lot.
My group covered it, but youwould like you would like go in
one room and take care of therockefeller's great, great
grandson and they wouldliterally one of my favorite
(23:14):
stories got hit in the head witha golf ball walking on the golf
course.
This is a great story.
And how to like?
I'm sure we're past any HIPAAviolation at this point.
I'm sure I'm comfortable Likethere's some like, but anyway,
we can edit it out.
No, this this kid got hit in thehead with a golf ball and came
in and had like a halfcentimeter laceration on his
(23:36):
forehead from the gallbladder.
He was totally doused aroundthe room.
Fine, and the parents are likemy plastic surgeon is flying in
from New York.
I said what?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
And he's like yeah, you didn't cut it for them.
He's on its way.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
We'll get him on the phone for you to tell him.
He'll tell you how he wants thewound treated until he gets
here.
But he's at the airport leaving.
I'm like, hey, your kid's gotlike a.
it'll take me like two seconds,you can choose like glue or a
couple stitches Coke or anelixir, and they literally I put
like just sterile gauze withsome saline on it and they were
(24:13):
in the room while he flew on adirect flight on a private jet
from New York City to Sun Valleyand came in it's a good story.
It's a great story, but why Itell the story is in the very
next room is like a rancher whohad never had health care their
whole life and came in with aheart attack and I'm like.
What alternate universe am I in?
Speaker 2 (24:32):
That's how it is.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
It's a fun place to work and they're really nice
people, but you have literallygenerational wealth.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Generational wealth and then you have some of the
nicest, most humble Idaho.
It was a crazy place to work inthe yard.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
I don't know why I'm telling you this story, except
for it is I can go with it.
I can full circle this.
That's the beautiful thingabout Somalia.
We're quick-minded, anyone.
The beautiful thing aboutSomalia is anyone can choose to
live there because we do believein the natural healing elements
of the world.
Again, we go back to when youdon't have the resources
financially to pay for.
Again, we're solution-basedcare and we do believe pay
(25:07):
towards health is wealth.
But the healing elements of air, water, sunlight, green, and
part of the reason we love Boiseand want to come here is again
I think it's underappreciatedthe river, I mean mean just
driving in today, so excited forthe river.
Idaho has the number one naturalhot spring, the number one
amount and it's a gem state andwe want to build on that we're
(25:32):
really glad you chose, as I'vegotten to know you guys a lot
and your team and the otherpeople that are around you, like
you could have gone anywhere,and so the fact that you're
staying here in Idaho is awesome.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
I love Idaho yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
And the fact that you'll be close to an airport
where people can fly in, you'llbe where.
So talk a little bit more aboutyour expansion, because I want
to like plug that because it's abig deal.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I know Well, we have a couple of different expansions
going on, so, um, so one of thethings we're setting up, um,
well, so our, so we, we actuallywent and looked, we looked at
spaces in san monica and we, andI was like I am not right off
third street promenade molly'slike can't do it, can't do it.
There's a lot of vacancy downthere right now there is well, I
just I love idaho so much Ifeel my best in the state, like
(26:14):
I love the natural, you know,all the natural elements and so
anyway, so we, with the growthof Boise, right, and all of
Idaho, it just seems natural.
And then I have more and morepeople coming in town from Boise
and all over Idaho and Utah toour clinic and so, yeah, I said
so, I said to my friend Mike, Iwas like find me.
(26:34):
I tell this is exactly what Isaid to him.
I said find me someone who is avisionary, who's in the health
field and who's an establishedreal estate developer.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
There aren't many of you.
Well, I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
So I told him those three criteria and then he's
like oh, you need my friendTommy Alquist.
I was like perfect, can youconnect me with him?
And then that's how it started.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Well, he actually came down with you.
Oh yeah, that was fun, which isvery unlike him.
He's like hey.
So I knew like hey, this isgoing to be good.
Anyway, it's been great andwe're planning the building.
What I love about what we doand this is like a plug for what
we do but when you meet someoneincredible like you and
Christina and you have thisvision for what you want to do
for patients and care.
(27:16):
It really is cool to wrap abuilding around that vision,
because I think it's hard.
I think I mean I really do.
I think there's lots of smallbusiness owners that are in
really crappy real estate space.
And they try to do the best ofcreating a culture, and I think
it's almost cheating for peoplethat get to say what do we want
(27:37):
our space to feel like?
What do we want it to look like?
How?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
do we want?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
it to display our values and our corporate thing.
Well with you, with healthcare,it's even one step more right.
How can you create a space onthe river that speaks to you
moment you walk in from first?
Impression into theinteractions with the people.
(28:00):
It just makes it easier.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
That's what I wanted.
So then, yeah, when I firsttalked to you it's funny, cause
you're like, oh no, we have thebest building first and fourth,
or what is the building called?
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Oh, fourth, and I know.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Fourth, and I know, and I was like in, I was like,
well, no, I actually want theriver.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
So then his next sentence was oh, you want the
river.
We have 10 acres on the riverand I was like, who is this guy?
I was like, okay, let's justmeet in person, because then I
can get an idea of what'shappening here.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
You know, this is like the ultimate salesman, the
next thing you would have saidwe have that too.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
No, we only have two downtown projects by.
I was like wait, how could thisbe?
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I have been known to be prone to hyperbole.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Well, that's why I wasn't sure.
So then, when it came, though,and actually like you, offer me
my dream space.
Yeah, it's awesome With all thecomponents on it that I want
because we're starting an AIMITTeaching Institute, yeah, so we
wanted educational space on itNext to CWI I talked to.
Gordon.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Isn't he amazing.
We needed a school.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
We got a school.
We needed a school and a hotelon site, and you- also provided
that for us.
So your clinic is going to beright next door, so we're going
to be right on the we have thehotel and then we have the river
, which is so important to me toget that outdoor elements.
We have the views of the riverand we also have the views of
the foothills.
It's amazing.
So it just was like I felt likethat was incredible.
(29:18):
So then I was like, okay, well,then this is, this is.
It feels like a good fit.
So then we're planning that nowand we're planning to offer the
full scope of our care, just abrain-based wellness, and it's
really geared towards likechronic conditions, long-term
conditions that people haven'tare so frustrated they have no
solutions for or acuteconditions, anything and I'm
really excited to see thebuilding shape up, because now
(29:38):
that you're getting kind of onthe inside of the TI thing and
kind of seeing how people willbe affected, I mean it really is
cool.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Like I mean, we all get to do things in our lives,
which is work, right, yeah.
But when you watch work reallycome together and you're like,
oh, I can see how this is goingto change people.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
That's why I told Mike I wanted a visionary.
It's so awesome, because Ineeded someone who could imagine
all these elements, and that'swhat you did.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Well, and I just told , last Thursday and Friday I
volunteered down at Summit.
And so I had two daysvolunteering down there.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
We love, love that building.
We're obsessed with thatbuilding.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
We want to teach in that building.
It's so awesome.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
And, honestly, I got a little emotional the second
day because we graduatedsomebody and so they do 40 days,
two hyperbaric treatments a day, an hour each, and then.
So you're an hour in thechamber, 100% oxygen at two
atmospheres, and then you take afive minute oxygen break in the
hour and then you come out andthen they have housing on site
(30:43):
if you need it, if you're fromout of town or a lot of people
are from in town right now, butanyway, it's always emotional
when someone graduates.
So they're there, end of their40 days, and, um, this guy was
graduating the day I was thereand and I you never know how it
goes, so they do this kind oflittle thing.
He comes out of his lastchamber and they said, um, hey,
um, you know, thank you so much.
It's a big sacrifice to committo 40 days.
They give him some swag.
And then he reached in hispocket and got pretty emotional
and pulled out a speech and hesaid I want to read this to you
(31:07):
so I don't miss anything.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
And he sat and went through all the ways his life
had changed and the differentphysical and emotional things
that have happened to him thereand the gratitude, and I thought
, oh man, so going from like hey.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
What better could there be than that?
There's nothing better.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
There's nothing better, and I know that sounds
corny, but it's just not itdoesn't sound, corny, it's
amazing.
When you do things that resetpeople and help them go out and
be happy and tackle life andfind joy.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Yeah well, we all deserve to have a healthy life,
right, we're designed to.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
So in my mind I was going with that one.
I tell too many stories today,but I can think about your space
and the river and I can almostvisualize how it's going to be
to go there and what it's goingto feel like it's going to be
amazing.
And the things that are goingto happen to people's lives.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, we're just envisioning like on the river,
and then we have we've beenthinking a little outdoor space,
possibly a sculpture garden,but then we have like a.
Really we want a clean, organic, like totally green materials,
natural light.
And then we have all the.
We're working with Brad, wehave the treatment rooms planned
out and then we have differentthings.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
We're super excited, yeah, and again, like the
community aspect of the school,the hotel, us we want to bring
in like retail, like an air one.
Some people can like healthylife, healthy, just expand on
the whole make it a space.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
We want all the components of just.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
you know, after having that space, well it's
been really, really fun for myteam to work with you.
I know Brad and Mark andeveryone's been great.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Yeah, they're amazing .
Your team is incredible.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
I don't deserve them.
Actually, they're the best,they're the most wonderful
people yes, you do.
Brad, we call him ArchitectJesus, and now you know why.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Right, sweet, he's a great guy.
Hey, can we talk about yourpodcast?
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Well, first of all, can we pull up what's the
website for?
Speaker 1 (33:02):
your clinic, drmollybrowncom.
Drmollybrowncom, and I thinkthere's a link to your podcast
right there too.
Yep, right there, soDrMollyBrowncom.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Oh yeah, the podcast is the last tab.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
The podcast is the last tab, so it's a lot of
information about the servicesyou provide your clinic.
Yeah, and then the podcastright there the Future of Health
.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
That's what we call it, yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah, I'm a podcast listening guy, yeah, and so I've
got it right on my so I don'tmiss them, because you know how
they come up next.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Thank you, tommy.
Just so you guys know I mix youguys in with Theo.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Vaughn, I love Theo.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Vaughn too.
He's so funny, he's funny, he'sfunny in small doses, I don't
sometimes I don't like him.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
There are, but there are some times when I am like
that's funny.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
We probably have the same list of people.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
I am laughing out loud, so hard with him.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Yeah he's funny.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
So talk about the podcast.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Why the podcast?
Why the podcast?
How, how it's been?
The podcast has been really funfor us to bring.
Like some of the, there's a lotof innovation happening in the
healthcare space right and inthe health world and wellness
and longevity, and so it'samazing for us to connect with
people from all over the worldreally, and we have a lot of
innovators and we had Dr Buehler, dr Turner.
(34:20):
We recently interviewed thiscompany Super cool, it's called
Solodome.
You would like it.
They kind of recreated the 70segg chair.
Remember that chair?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
You would know it if you saw it.
Yeah, you can picture it.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Well, so what they do is they put frequencies.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
I remember it because I lived through it.
You remember it because youGoogle it.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
It's a design icon, so they put the pulse
frequencies.
It's not music.
Tommy, I love how you crackedyourself up.
That was funny.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
That was awesome.
Do you remember the egg chair?
Yeah, have you ever Googledthat?
No, I was born in the 60s,molly.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Okay.
Well, you've gotten your firstair.
One smoothie, that's a start.
So they're posting frequencies,but they're having the
companies growing right now, andit's a sound, can we?
Speaker 1 (35:16):
look it up.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Vibro.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Acoustic Therapy, vibro Acoustic Therapy, vibro
Acoustic Therapy it's a businesspartnership of a businessman
who did the soundtrack forFriends, yeah.
And then Solodome isS-O-L-O-D-O-M-E.
And then he partnered with asound, mechanical and
architectural engineer and theypulse frequencies through the
chair and they've had amazingresults Google Solodome.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Google Solodome S-O-L-O.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yeah, solodome, google Solodome S-O-L-O.
Yeah, solodome, but they've hadgreat results with Parkinson's
and autism and if you look uptheir social media.
So they're just starting out,but we interviewed them and they
were really fun, and then it'sfun to connect with people from
all over the world, as I'm sure.
Well, you stay mostly in Boise,right there.
There it is.
Oh wow, so then it uses pulsefrequency stuff?
(36:06):
no, so there's speakers in theum, in the chairs and it
immerses you in sound okay andthey're having great results
with parkinson's and autism andlike all sorts of like nhd pain
you can actually use thefrequencies that match the same
brain load.
So that's what this is cool, Iknow I told you that I I told
you that I, like like about sixmonths ago, did the sauna thing
(36:28):
in the cold plunge, and then Ibought me the brain yeah, the
brain tap is what we use, braintap but they have the neurotonal
frequencies with the lights ohyeah, and then you do a
meditation while you do it andit's supposed to be really
helpful now I'm not sure.
I'm not sure you're pressing meright and left now that we're
done with diet coke after todayafter today, you please stop,
(36:51):
because it's not good for youthis is cool, so you had this
guy on so we had them on and itwas really cool, like, um,
they're kind of just startingout, but you can literally
that's what neurofeedback is.
You match the frequency, you useharmonics and you train the
brain out of anxiety or traumapatterns.
The neurofeedback is incredible.
It changed my whole life, likeall the work we use has changed
my life.
But um, they are.
(37:13):
We're going to match thedifferent brain lobes.
So there's certain protocolsfor stress tolerance, which
improves immunity and improvessleep and creates a higher theta
brain wave and decreases thebeta if it's out of balance and
then your anxiety goes away.
It's the most magical.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Without even talking about it.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Chronic chronic anxiety it changes your life.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
I've learned a lot about this, like last month.
It's cool, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
It's super cool.
And then the trauma markerslike you can, you can train the
brain to increase the alphabrainwave and that's what we
look at as trauma markers.
There's focus protocols and so,anyways, we might be working
with them to use those specificprotocols in the chairs, not
only for the general, likenervous system balance, but to
really target the differentbrain waves we're working on,
(37:59):
which then we can improvequickly anxiety, depression,
focus, concentration, traumaprocessing.
We can do all that.
That's what we do with thenerve feedback.
If we can bring the chair in, Imean it looks super cool.
So I think it could be a goodcollaboration we do with them.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
That's why the podcast has been incredibly
helpful, though is because Iknow we're spitting out a lot of
terminology and, like it's,we're going really quick here
here, but the podcast has been agreat, great tool and it gets
way deeper into these differentmodalities that we use so that
people can get a betterunderstanding again.
Until you experience itfirsthand really hard to wrap
your head around, but these uhpodcast episodes are giving
(38:36):
people a much betterunderstanding and depth of what
we do.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Well, we've talked a little bit about this are we we
wearing you out, tommy?
No, no, give him some moreelixir, no we talked a little
bit about this, but I think theAmerican healthcare system and
patients are craving this right.
That's exactly it.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
It's a huge opportunity for alternative and
natural care if you havesolution-based care, which is
what we consider ourselves.
I think, like you know thechronic illness, I think like we
all need the acute care, rightLike the ER docs are so needed
and in such an important job fortrauma or accidents or whatever
it is.
But for chronic illness it'sjust mostly preventable.
(39:14):
But and also anxiety,depression and trauma, you can't
always.
I mean, I really love thatnatural approach because it's
sustainable and it givessolutions and it's a long-term
and it gets better and betterover time.
You can't band-aid yourself alot of times with well, it's in
(39:35):
a lot of our podcasts, rightLike the people who are going to
the long COVID clinics for likeyears, four years in one in one
reset, the long COVID symptomsare totally gone and so that's
the results we can deliver overand over.
And it's um, I use I do usesome supplementation, but it's
just to accelerate the result.
It's not I'm not supplementbased Like some people yeah,
(39:58):
some people use like 20supplements.
Right, it's an allopathicapproach with herbs, but we're
talking brain-based wellness.
It's totally different.
You change and balance thebrain and calm the nervous
system down and the immunesystem and the body, the organs
and glands start functioningimmediately.
You can do it with blood sugarregulation.
You can do it with kidneyfunction, liver function.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
So your point is if that's in balance, then your
body's immune system will takecare of those things.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
If your brain has shut down the liver, for
instance, and it can't detoxifyproperly.
You can turn the function ofliver on by working with the
brain, and that's what we do.
It's a totally differentapproach.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
But you can take all the supplements in the world and
it's not going to help it.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
It gets turned off.
So we're in for all the peoplelistening out there that they
should do.
Like what are your like?
Basic health and wellness nocoke.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
We got no coke.
Diet coke well, I think that's.
You have diet coke that's all Idrink.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Oh, you thought you didn't know that.
I thought it was a regular noit's diet coke, so I've been
diet coke for 50 years, but butit's a neurotoxin.
Now you're an elixir guy but insome ways isn't it comforting?
Speaker 2 (41:00):
beyond that, I've consumed that much on the ranch
with the elixir guy, but in someways isn't it comforting that
I've consumed that much?
Be on the ranch with theelixirs.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
So give us your top tips for people listening for
health, longevity and wellness.
Just for the average 40 to 50to 60-year-old person that's
listening to this male or female, what are the things they
should do every day?
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Oh, every day, oh every day.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Yeah, Like what are like what's your routine?
Speaker 3 (41:25):
We love routine, yeah .
Speaker 2 (41:26):
So, um well, first of all, like the food that is just
full of chemicals.
Like healthy whole food, right?
Speaker 1 (41:33):
So healthy whole food , no chemical like the I've
heard the aisles in the storystay off of and all the stuff
that's fresh is on the exteriorwall, which is usually true.
That's where the produce andfresh stuff is.
You don't grow all your ownstuff, do you?
Speaker 2 (41:49):
No, no, I don't do that.
So just whole healthy food,right.
Lots of water, movement,movement.
We are in Idaho, right, so wecan be in the mountains, we can
be in the rivers, we can just beoutside all the time.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
And the best part is outside, if you can be outside
sunlight.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (42:12):
What do you think about the morning sunlight thing
that he room and talks a lotabout?
Speaker 2 (42:15):
So good.
All of those things are so goodbecause they can establish
routines Like you want toestablish your circadian rhythms
.
It's where you get the sunriseand the sunset.
It's the only time you have tolook at the sun like that to
establish your circadian rhythms.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
It's the sunrise and sunset, so it's first thing in
the morning is what you hear.
It's not for a very long periodof time.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
I love the cold plunging Like I got really into
cold plunging for a while Not asmuch this winter, but but it
literally makes you feel likethe most amazing.
But I like going in the rivers,not the.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Do you do it in the morning or night?
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Morning because it's really energizing.
It keeps you in a reallypositive, energized state all
day long.
And I love saunas, but all thenatural things are really good
and then I but a lot of timespeople just don't have to damage
themselves.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Are there any supplements we should take every
day?
Speaker 2 (42:59):
I take, like B vitamins and magnesium, and it's
also again with the supplements.
It's the quality.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Magnesium glycinate.
How many milligrams?
Speaker 2 (43:07):
That's so impressive, tommy.
Glycinate three and eight isgood and magnesium chelate is
what I take.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
How much?
Speaker 2 (43:17):
I take.
Like the form I have, I taketwo capsules.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
I'm just asking a recommendation, Dr Molly.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
It's different for everyone, but you generally
can't take too much magnesium.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
It's all the process of the body, but it's super
important, right yeah?
Speaker 2 (43:27):
I like magnesium.
I like the full-spectrum Bvitamins and B12.
Okay, especially if peopledon't methylate, like the
quality of the supplement isreally important, right?
So I like some of thesupplements we have.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
You know what I do?
I just go to Amazon, costco themost expensive one is that's
what I buy.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Because I think it's got to be higher quality.
You have to be careful onAmazon.
I heard that.
So I go right to the company.
But just the basics D3, k2, band magnesium are a good start,
but it's not really about thesupplements so much as like.
Why take the supplements ifyou're eating unhealthy food?
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Yeah, Well, I think, in our climate and with our
darkness.
I think D3 is super and I thinkB because of the.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
I think that Everyone needs the B vitamins.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
It supports the brain , liver and I think magnesium.
It's hard to get enough of thatjust from well, it's because
our, our food sources are sodemineralized right now, because
the soil is de-mineralized, sohopefully that's changing right
now.
Um, with their, you know,getting a lot of chemicals out
of the food and out of the water.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Do you eat meat?
Speaker 2 (44:39):
um, so I I haven't been talking about.
I've been here for like 22years or more, but recently,
when I was in norway this june,um, I started having a little
fish, um, but for 22 years isvery, very.
I love the plant-based diet I Ilike not eating meat.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Everyone's different though you've heard my
plant-based diet story right.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
No, please tell me.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
It's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
So when I had my heart attack.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
I had open heart surgery and then I had a heart
attack right.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Yeah, I heard that, and so I hired me a dietician.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Oh, and she was awesome.
She was really great here inBoise yes, cooking to the house
everything.
And I was committed.
I'm like, because I'm committed, I'm going to be vegan now
because you can reverse coronaryartery disease if you do, and
all this stuff right.
So I did it for like six monthshow'd you feel?
I gained like 15 pounds becausedo you know that?
(45:37):
Um, oreos are vegan?
I do know that Vegan does notmean healthy.
That's exactly right.
You can be really honest.
Oreos are vegan.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
LA is the vegan restaurants there, the amount of
oils and just it's so bad.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
So I gained weight and I was like by the end of it
I honestly Didn't feel good.
No, I just am like if I can'tlike go barbecue like one of my
own cows and I can't like cookfish that I got in Alaska, it's
kind of like not worth livingand I think it's okay for you,
it's totally okay, it doesn'teven matter.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
I don't think it matters, as long as you're like
whole food and healthy sources.
I'm sure a lot happier If youhave the healthiest sources of
meat and fish, which sounds likeyou do, like I don't think it
matters too much.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
It's just when you get the process yeah, it's the
quality, but everybody'sdifferent.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
And going back to your question about what do we
do?
How do we stay healthy?
It's we are our own biggestadvocates and we have to protect
our peace.
As people who are helping otherpeople, we have to stay healthy
, and for us that looks similar,but like different at the same
time, like we know what keeps usgoing and fueled up, and like
it's personalized, right.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
I mean, yeah, I'm a little different from most
people.
I love eating just likesuperfoods, like the elixirs and
the plant-based foods, like Ilove it, but I don't expect
everyone to eat like that.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
But that maintenance is so important and again, like
it's not okay, you don't want togo to the doctor when you're on
your last leg or like whenyou're already at the worst.
It's a sense of maintenance andmaintenance and you have to
like it's a whole body.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
It's all you have to keep it going.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
It's not.
You don't just all of a suddenone day, do it for a week and
then let it die off again andthen go again, Like it's a
constant effort you're puttinginto yourself and that's like
the most important thing.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
I'm glad you hit that .
It's like all of the littlefatty things are, like the come
and go, it's long, it's it'sdoing something consistently
over time, and I've heard from alot of different people that
are in this that it's reallylike three months to see any
results and then at six monthsyou'll see a little bit of
results and you really startseeing the results of your
efforts after a year.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
And then it maintains itself.
Because the way it works is youstart feeling so good.
You never not want to feel good.
That's how I am with food, likeI don't eat anything.
That makes me feel bad.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
I don't.
My part is the busyness of lifeand I've got a, and I think
people deal with that too.
I just go through times andI've been in one of those right
now where I just like I I'm justtoo busy.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
I'm just it's an excuse, you just it's an excuse,
but then what happens?
Because it's like what happensto normal people.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
Well, normal people like that, like you, then like
go, I feel like crap because I'mnot doing my, my routine.
And then when you don't feel.
That's when it's harder to doit Right.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
And then, and then it's time.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
for me it's like it's like prioritizing my health so
that I can be healthy foreverything else.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Last year I was going into a really big year and I
knew I had to like be at my verybest Cause, like I have to be
like really hot, like top 0.01%,just be able to help people in
the way I want to.
And so I knew I was going to bebusier.
And that's when I was doing thecold plunging every morning and
it like really it's like, it'slike so, it's like high energy
(48:30):
in the morning and puts you in areally positive state, floods
your body with neurotransmittersand you just feel really good.
So I did that like literallyevery morning.
I don't think I miss a beat andit really benefited me to stay
really positive Because we'reall so busy, right, but that's
where I come back to in themorning.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
The other thing about doing it in the morning is that
that's where you have thecontrol right, and I'm an
evening sauna and cold plungeguy, just because you are Well.
I have been, just because it'sa time thing, right?
So if I'm going to wake up andgo look in the sun and take my
dogs for a walk and stretch anddo a workout and do some cardio
(49:11):
and read the Bible.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
Your wife is like where's Tommy?
I was like he's sun gazing.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
Sounds lovely.
But if you do all that and youadd a, sauna on and you add a
cold plug on, so you have towake up at 4.30.
You have to wake up at 4.30.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
You really do to get all the stuff in.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
But no, I love the morning.
Do you wake up that early?
Yeah, usually I do.
Five, maybe.
What's the time you go to bed?
Speaker 2 (49:33):
It depends.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
Let's talk about sleep here, Molly.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
Yeah, I love waking up to doing the morning
meditation.
I think that, like, spiritualpractice in the morning is
really important, so, like themorning meditation, and then it
just sets the tone for a reallyhappy day.
I feel like you can getpositively focused and then I go
on from there, whatever it isyoga, Pilates, cold punch,
whatever it is, whatever youhave time for that day, and then
you're really focused for work,but I too.
(49:57):
At the end of the day, we'reboth exhausted.
Speaker 3 (50:07):
We go to bed pretty early like I'm like wrapping up
at the end of the day, yeah, andmy time is, like you know,
sleep is my achilles heel.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
I need a like, a minimum seven, but like I'm a
good, eight to nine hours, areyou my?
My son-in-law has been out oftown this week, so our grandkids
have been over every day.
Oh my gosh amazing when theythey're like the best thing, the
entire.
They're so awesome, so awesome.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
How old are they?
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Five, three and eight months.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
Oh my gosh but when they leave.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
It's just like I am like exhausted.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
Exhausted.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
Yeah, I don't know.
I look at my poor daughter andI'm like oh, bless your heart.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
Yeah, it's hard.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
I got to take him to karate last night so that she
had a little break.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
Oh, oh fun.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
Hey, super fun, we're like over time.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
Oh, we are Okay.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
That went by fast.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
Thank you so much for having us, Tommy, Just a few
things.
Speaker 3 (50:46):
So we're working on, obviously, Boise, we're creating
, hopefully, the Amen Instituteand expanding brain-based
wellness knowledge and in themeantime, we are hopefully well,
we are partnering with SunValley.
Sun Valley, yeah, and we'rewellness kind of again like
prioritizing your health,keeping that maintenance,
whether it's an individual orsetting like groups and teams.
(51:06):
We are creating a three-daywellness program with Sun Valley
and no better place to do it.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
No better place.
So, drmollybrowncom.
Speaker 2 (51:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
Podcast can link right there All the updates from
the clinic and everything.
We will have you back on soon.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
We'll have you on too , Tommy.
The future of Boise.
The future of Boise.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
I've listened to your podcast, the future of the ER
docs.
They would not have some likeyeah.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
No, no, we'd be honored to have you.
Wait, do you want to do thefuture?
Speaker 3 (51:36):
of ER docs.
Our whole concept is the futureof or the future of real estate
development in boise you coulddo the future of reform.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
Diet coke yes hey this was fun okay thanks for not
giving me too bad of a time.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
I can't wait to be your biggest fan.
Speaker 1 (51:51):
Watch your building come together and watch you guys
change lives.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
It's really cool yeah , thank you so much thanks, so
much thanks everybody.
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