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James Jay Edwards (00:25):
Welcome to
Eye on Horror, the official
podcast of ihorror.com. This isepisode 150, otherwise known as
season eight. Episode 10. I'myour host, James Jay Edwards,
and with me, as always, is yourother host, Jacob Davidson, how
you doing?
Jacob Davidson (00:43):
Jacob, doing
good. Did pretty well at Dead
Right Horror trivia last night,and it's pretty cloudy and
gloomy day in California orSoCal, it's
James Jay Edwards (00:54):
actually kind
of sunny down here. I'm looking
out the window, but maybe theclouds are on their way. But it
has rained the last couple days.
Oh, yeah, which has been kind ofnice. Also with us, as always,
is your other other host, JonCorreia, how you doing?
Jonathan Correia (01:07):
Correia, don't
ask me, what the weather is. I
don't know, my my shades areclose.
James Jay Edwards (01:13):
The weather
for you is dark.
Jonathan Correia (01:15):
The weather
for me is dark like my soul. No,
I'm in a I'm I'm in Vegas doingovernights. I I accidentally
delayed this recording because Ifell asleep like half hour
before we were supposed torecord. So no, it was. It was a
little rainy last night, whichshut down production for a bit.
But other than that, it's beenlike, Yeah, super sunny and all
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that, just trying to avoid it.
James Jay Edwards (01:38):
All the rain
shuts down for me is the dogs
potty schedules.
Jonathan Correia (01:42):
It's not the
rain that we worry about. It's
the it's the thunder, becausewhen you're when you're in the
in the middle of a massive dirtparking lot, building lots of
scaffolding and stuff, you'rebasically just one giant metal
lightning rod.
James Jay Edwards (01:55):
We I know
I've told you guys, but I don't
think that I've mentioned it tothe listeners. My day job added
a bunch of new sports leagues,all American college
conferences, and I have seen somany lightning delays. They're
all in like, like, the South andthe Midwest, so many lightning
delays. Like, is that a thing?
We don't have earthquake delaysout here?
Jonathan Correia (02:21):
Well, yeah,
because remember that footage of
the soccer players all allplaying, and then the lightning
hits. They all go, are justlike, instantly on the ground,
holding their heads, like,
James Jay Edwards (02:30):
well, they
got electrocuted because of the
wet grass. Yeah. Let's getrolling on this. Because, you
know, there's not a whole lot totalk about, but we also have a
whole lot of time. The big thingthat comes out this week, and I
know Correia saw it, I don'tknow, but Jacob, have you guys
seen Him?
Jacob Davidson (02:47):
I didn't see it
yet. Yeah,
James Jay Edwards (02:49):
yeah, Correia
and I need to have a discussion
about Him.
Jonathan Correia (02:54):
We need to
talk about Him.
Jacob Davidson (02:55):
So my question
is, because, based off of your
text, so was it good or was itbad? You know,
James Jay Edwards (03:02):
yes and no.
Visually, I think it's great,you know, Justin, see thing is
Jordan Peele's name is above thetitle on it as a producer, but
it was the guy who made thatmovie Kicks a couple years ago,
Justin Tipping, but he, he knowshow to make a movie. It's real,
reminiscent of like Any GivenSunday, or like it looks like,
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almost like a like a music videoor a video game. But
narratively, it is a mess. Thismovie is just all over the way.
But here's the thing about it,is I walking out of it. I felt
the way I felt walking out ofmother! Aronofsky's mother!,
which I thought at the time,that was a narrative mess, but
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then the more I thought aboutthe more I kind of got it. And
this one has kind of the sameit. It's weird. It's like
simultaneously vague and on thenose, because half the time
you're trying to figure out whatthe hell is going on, and then
all of a sudden they'll throwlike a last supper homage in
there. And you're like, Okay,wait, is this a religious
analogy? And there is a littlebit of that, like, you know, I
(04:07):
am him, meaning, okay, are youthe greatest football player
that ever lived? Or are youtrying to be God? It's their
Jacob Davidson (04:15):
football,
Jonathan Correia (04:17):
yeah, by the
way, it says it on football,
James Jay Edwards (04:22):
but, yeah, it
is, I, I'm kind of mixed on it,
because it's a beautifully mademovie from a technical
standpoint, and the soundtrackis great. And, you know, the
performances are really good,but narratively is it was
written by the guys who did wasit called Limetown. It was and
(04:44):
Justin tipping too that thethree of them wrote it, but it's
Yeah, but, and to its credit, itkind of does pull everything
together by the end. By the timeyou get to the last scene, it
does kind of explain itself alittle. I. But by then you're
just kind of so shell shocked bythe whole, you know, experience.
(05:05):
You're like, yeah, I don't know.
I'm I need to process it alittle more. But right now, I'm
not a fan. What about you,Correia,
Jonathan Correia (05:13):
I I really
liked it. I think it's one of
those. I kind of walked away,and I sent it to a few people,
where I compared it to a lot of,like, 80s Italian horror, you
know, a lot of stylish likethat. Yeah, yeah, like some of
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Argento's or Lombardo's work,where the style, the style is
rich. The style is there. Thisone, it's very experienced. It's
very strobing. There's a lot ofcool stuff. But instead of like
that giallo over saturation andcolor and whatnot, it's more
kind of like modern, late, 2000ship hop music videos, you know,
(06:00):
like, it's very like late Jay Zwith its editing and styling and
everything.
James Jay Edwards (06:06):
But then it
also had, like, Did you guys
ever play that game? It was thePlayStation game that got by the
NFL, so they had to change theteam names. Was it? Was it
Blitz?
Jacob Davidson (06:19):
I don't know
James Jay Edwards (06:21):
Anyway, when,
um, when there was a lot of that
kind of stuff, like, where, whenyou get with, when you would get
injured in this game, it wouldlike X ray to like the leg you
break, or X ray to, like, youknow, to your brain bouncing
around in your skull. And therewas some of that too, yeah, you
know.
Jonathan Correia (06:40):
Or like, Fight
Club The Video Game, yes, yeah,
which Fred Durst was in.
Jacob Davidson (06:46):
Oh, yeah, he
was, he was a secret character.
James Jay Edwards (06:48):
And Abraham
Lincoln. You could fight Abraham
Lincoln, which was an amazingeaster
Jacob Davidson (06:52):
egg, yeah. And
also, Mortal Kombat integrated
that kind of style where, like,you see all the bones and shit
and organs getting crushedwhenever you fight
Jonathan Correia (07:01):
somebody.
Yeah, I see, I can foresee a lotof people saying this film is
all style and no substance. AndI think that that's inaccurate.
I think it's, it's oozing withstyle, that is for certain, but
the substance is very hamfisted. It's, it's, it's a
Faustian tale about the cult ofAmerican football and the
James Jay Edwards (07:24):
cold. It's
also, it's, it's part Faustian,
and this is where it kind ofmuddies up for me. It's part
Faustian, but then it's alsopart Joseph Campbell's The
Mentor, because, um, Isaiahwhite, the who is the goat, he's
the Tom Brady of this thing, andhe's bringing in this, he's
bringing in this college guy whohis draft stock plummeted
(07:48):
because he got, he kind of gotjumped and attacked. So he had a
head injury. And the headinjury, I love it. They had to
staple his head, and it lookslike the laces on a football.
That imagery was beautiful. AndI love it. I love it because,
thing is, it was, you find the,the weigh ins care, the Marlon
(08:12):
Wayans character goes from beinghelpful to being almost like
sinister. I don't know it's,it's, yeah, it's, it's really
muddy to me,
Jonathan Correia (08:23):
yeah, and
that's, that's what I that's
what I loved about it, dude.
Because again, if you, if you'rebringing it back into the
context of, like, the cult orthe religion of American
football, it's so serious, butit's also so unserious, like
it's the most serious thing,with the stats, with the
rituals, with everything thatgoes on, but also you got dudes
shirtless, painted up like
James Jay Edwards (08:47):
I'm gonna say
the cult aspect is great,
because there are people whohang out in front of Isaiah
White's um compound, and one ofthem is friend of the podcast,
Naomi Grossman, Who ischameleonic. You can't even tell
it's her.
Jonathan Correia (09:03):
I didn't know
until you message saying, Did
you spot her?
James Jay Edwards (09:07):
It's crazy,
but she plays this weird like,
almost like a stalker lady whohangs out out in front of the
compound.
Jonathan Correia (09:15):
Yeah, no. I
had a lot of fun with it. I
really enjoyed it. The needledrops were great. I especially
love that they did a wholemontage to Gucci Mane lemonade,
which is one of my favoritesongs, and then later on, they
did another montage to TierraWhack song that she made for the
film. And Tierra Whack cameos inthat scene, which was amazing. I
(09:39):
The ad, the acting in it wasamazing. Marlon Waynes is gives
such a Gonzo performance. Idon't know if I can say it, it's
award worthy, because I don't Ithink he'll be ignored, but I do
think it needs to be talkedabout. It is the performance of
a career like it is phenomenal.
There's so much I like. Aboutit, and I but I get what, how
(10:00):
people can be turned off orturned away from it. But again,
it, it's, it's, it's theseriousness and unseriousness of
it. Like Julia Fox's characterappears she's the wife of way
Marlon Wayne's character, andlike, within two minutes she's
talking about, or no, instantlyshe's talking about, like, her
(10:22):
crystals, revitalizing people'ssex things. And then she just,
like, before she exits thescene, hands him one, and he's
just holding he goes, You shoveit up your you shove it up your
ass Cam, and then just leaves.
It doesn't come back for like,half the movie. And it's just
like, where did the where didthis queen go? Like she was just
serving so much cunt. It'sgreat, like, there's, there's,
(10:44):
there's just so much of it thatwas just like, rich and just
like, wanted more. And it's andthen the finale delivers.
James Jay Edwards (10:51):
Oh my dude,
the see, I'll give it, I'll give
it that the the the endingactually does kind of make sense
of the whole movie. Mostly,there's a couple things I still
have questions about, but, um,but by the time you get to that
ending, everything is, like,this movie barely has its wheels
on. And by the time you get tothe ending, all four
Jonathan Correia (11:16):
and I love the
ride, man, I loved the ride.
It's, it's one of those thingswhere, like, I don't know if
it's just because the style andthe editing and everything, but
like, the story, if you, if youtook all stripped all that away,
the story is so straightforward.
The themes are sostraightforward. Everything is
laid out there, and it's justpresented in such a, I think,
cool and unique way. I justloved the energy. It's an
(11:40):
experience. And, yeah, I had alot of fun with it. I really
liked it. I'm not going to turnsit here and be like, this is,
this is the greatest film ever,but I fucking loved it. Yeah. So
so to answer your question,Jacob, when you say, like, I
can't tell by your text if youloved it or not exactly, or if
it's good or not, it's, it's,it's up there. I mean, it's, or
(12:04):
it's out there, it's, it's,
James Jay Edwards (12:07):
I was not a
big fan, but I do have to admit,
it's a very well made, I mean,it's very style. I I'm, I'm in
the style over substance campthat Correia was talking about,
because I think narratively, itwas a complete mess. But it,
from a technical standpoint,it's great. And Tyreke withers,
we have to talk about himbecause, you know, he's trying
to take my man crush trophy awayfrom from Mason Gooding. Tyreke
(12:31):
withers was in the, I Know WhatYou Did Last Summer remake, or
whatever, requel, but don't holdthat against him. He's He's
better.
Jonathan Correia (12:39):
Yeah. He was
great.
Jacob Davidson (12:41):
Yeah. In terms
of other big releases, have
either, either of you guys seenthe Long
James Jay Edwards (12:46):
Walk? Yeah,
talk about it, yeah. Well, I
talked about last time, but Idon't think either you had seen
it. So what do you guys think ofThe Long Walk?
Jacob Davidson (12:53):
Well, I loved
it. I went, went to the big
screening at the Egyptiantheater. And, yeah, no, it was
very powerful, like CooperHoffman and David Johnson were
MVPs. Like their relationshipfor the whole movie was
definitely the cornerstone thatreally made it work. And it's
just so intense, just like, youknow, with the, you know, like
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the guns to the back of theheads of these guys. And it just
keeps on going and going it,yeah, no. It was so intense and
it and somebody put it best.
It's Stand By Me if one of thekids got shot every few minutes.
James Jay Edwards (13:33):
Yeah, that's
Yeah. That's pretty much what it
is. Yeah, it's a
Jonathan Correia (13:37):
I didn't read
the original book, but I
definitely, I have, I have adecent understanding of the
Richard Bachman style, and itdoes feel like one of those
Stephen King stories like StandBy Me, or Shawshank with that
Bachman edge. And I did read acomparison of just like how
things play out and reading onhow the book ends. I'm glad they
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changed it, because I got reallyworried about, like, halfway
through on, like, with therelationship. I'm like, so is
this just, you know, everyone'shere to help the white
protagonist make it over theline or something. And I'm, I'm
glad it wasn't that the, I thinkthis is one of those movies
where, like, years from now,you're going to go, Wow, all
(14:22):
these guy all these actors thatare doing great things, or big
things, like, did you know theywere all in a movie together
years ago? Because everyone wason point. I mean, we've reviewed
quite a few of his movies.
Charlie Plummer was against typeand phenomenal.
James Jay Edwards (14:41):
Think, I
think the only, besides Mark
Hamill, of course, the only oneof those guys who even is kind
of known as Charlie, becauseCooper Hoffman was in pizza,
yeah, Licorice Pizza, and DavidJohnson was in the last Alien
movie, yeah, Romulus. So, sothese guys are kind of on their
(15:02):
way up, kind of like the kids inStand By Me. But, yeah, you're
right, all of these guys thatwe're going to know in, you
know, 10 years time, we're like,oh, you know, this is their
Stand By Me. I think, yeah,well,
Jonathan Correia (15:16):
and bed Wang
was in Karate Kid legends. I
didn't see that one yet, but, Imean, like, they're all already
doing stuff, but I candefinitely see this becoming
like a calling card for a lot ofthem for the next five years,
and getting, like,
James Jay Edwards (15:30):
none of them
are household names yet, but I
think, I think they will be.
Yes, I do,
Jonathan Correia (15:35):
especially
David Johnson, yeah, no, I
thought, I thought it was great.
I think I wanted a little bitmore from the ending on where it
was going, but overall, it'sstill I really like. And you
know what I gotta say? I saw iton a matinee on like, 11am on a
Wednesday, and them answeringthe question on how they go to
the bathroom was definitelysomething that was like a bit of
(15:57):
a thing at that
James Jay Edwards (16:02):
time. I
didn't even think of going
number two while you're doingthat. And they answered the
question I didn't ask
Jacob Davidson (16:10):
a couple times.
A lot of groans from theaudience. I was in a full house.
James Jay Edwards (16:17):
Oh, that.
That was the most sympathy Ifelt for those I'm like, oh,
man, this poor dude,
Jacob Davidson (16:22):
yeah, that it
also the guns in their heads,
but
James Jay Edwards (16:26):
that was the
more obvious sympathy. And also,
Jacob Davidson (16:30):
I did really
like Mark Hamills performance as
the bad guys of major which isfunny because, you know, he's in
a couple of Stephen Kingprojects lately. And you know,
this is just such a polaropposite from the Life of Chuck.
James Jay Edwards (16:43):
It's kind of
a big year for Stephen King with
The Monkey and Life of Chuck andnow and
Jacob Davidson (16:47):
Running Man. So
it's also a big year for Richard
Bachman.
James Jay Edwards (16:53):
Have either
you guys seen this movie? It's
kind of getting a lot of hypelately.
Jacob Davidson (16:57):
Looky-Loo, no, I
haven't heard of that one. Okay,
it's
James Jay Edwards (17:01):
you can. It's
on Tubi, and it's also free,
with ads on on voodango. It'slike a found footage thing, and
I'm kind of torn on it, becauseI love found footage. And this
is true found footage. This islike this guy basically stalks
women and kills them. And, butit's like, but it's so crazy,
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because he'll get into theirhouses by, like, finding the key
under the mat, or, you know,where they've hidden their
hidden key, and, and he's makinga movie while he's doing this,
so like, the movie you'rewatching is the movie that the
FBI found of his supposedly, andit is my issue with it. I mean,
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it's really effective as far aswhat it does. But my issue is it
doesn't really have an ending.
It just kind of, you know, it'slike they don't show him getting
captured, or, you know, theydon't show the comeuppance, you
know, or anything like that. Soit's almost like the FBI found
this movie, but didn't find theguy to go with it, you know. But
(18:08):
it doesn't like the Poughkeepsietapes, yeah, yeah, kind of, um.
So, I mean, it's reallyeffective in what it does, but
there's no closure, so maybethat makes it more effective,
more freaky, because this guy isstill out there, I don't know,
but yeah, it's, it's, it's kindof getting a lot of play, like
on found footage lists, becauseyou guys know me. I mean, I'll
(18:30):
watch any found footage, but Iadmit that 95% of them are bad.
You know, I'm always looking forthat 5%
Jonathan Correia (18:40):
that's where
we're Ying and Yang I, I don't
watch any of the found footagething unless it's like, unless
I'm like, really pushed to it.
The best
James Jay Edwards (18:50):
thing about
found footage and Looky-Loo is
the same way. It's an hour and19 minutes. I love found footage
because it gets in, gets out,gets done.
Jonathan Correia (18:58):
Ooh, Jay, do
you want because, because
you're, you're a, I like thingsunder around a certain time, a
time frame. Do you want arecommendation that's only an
hour and three minutes? And yes,packed and really fills that
hour and three minutes.
James Jay Edwards (19:17):
I always have
time for an hour and three
minutes hit me. Well, ladies
Jonathan Correia (19:21):
and gentlemen,
it's that beautiful time of the
year where Hooptober begins. Andas you all know, I use hope
Hooptober as an opportunity towatch movies that I own on Blu
Ray, but haven't watched it, butI'm on the road and for the next
few weeks, so I've added a lotof digital items, but this, but
the man who runs it, Cinemonsterover on letterbox had as extra
(19:44):
homework, uh, this 1990 Germanart house horror film that's
about the fears and the theworries of the reunification of
Germany, the what's going on inthe mindsets of. East and West
Germany. I am, of course,talking about the German
Chainsaw Massacre.
James Jay Edwards (20:06):
I didn't know
it was only 63 minutes. Where
can I see this? Because I kindof wanted to watch it
Jonathan Correia (20:11):
only 63
minutes and only available in
America through Hoopla, yes, theservice for comic books has this
weird as fuck. German art househorror, it is definitely more in
the field house of like DerTodes King or the Necromantik
(20:35):
movies, not as graphic as thosein their taboos and stuff, but
like, Boy howdy, that that hourand a half felt long because
there's a lot going on and it isinsane. And I do think that this
film earns its Chainsaw Massacretitling because it does match
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Toby Hooper's originalmasterpiece and just insanity,
anxieties, just all around, justthings going on and it, I can't
even tell you the fucking plot,I don't know. Basically, like it
opens up with footage of Germanreunion reuniting, and the Wall
coming down, and then, like,it's this woman who's trying to
(21:18):
travel across the borders. And Idon't know enough about the
politics of the area of the timeto give you the full
understanding, but it quicklyturns into like her running into
a group of cannibals, sadiststhat are were so horny, and it's
yeah, it leads to a blood bath,but it's, it's available on
(21:41):
Hoopla for free, so check withyour local libraries if you have
access to that. And it's, it's ait's a roaring good time again,
63 minutes. Yeah, everyone hasan hour.
James Jay Edwards (21:56):
Yeah, you
always have time for 63 minutes.
Always have
Jonathan Correia (21:59):
time for 63
minutes. Why not spend it with
the German Chainsaw Massacre?
James Jay Edwards (22:03):
Well, all
right, have you guys seen this
movie? I think it's from lastyear, called place of bones.
Don't know that one? No, I neverheard it. It's kind of a
revisionist Western kind of athing. Um, Heather Graham is in
it, which is, you know, always aplus for me. Um, but it's about
this, this woman and this andher daughter in the West, and
(22:25):
they live in this house, like bythemselves, and they're, I
think, 90 miles from the nearesttown, or something like that. So
they, they're living on theirown, just the two women. And the
ad has died, and you know hishe's buried like not far from
the property, so they can visithis grave and stuff. And this
bank robber, this this outlaw,winds up at their property and
(22:51):
and he his leg is all messed up,so he can't really move or
anything, but he has a saddlebag full of money. And of
course, there are people lookingfor him and the money more
outlaws. So it's kind of like a,you know, do they trust this guy
enough to give him a gun tofight off these other guys, you
(23:13):
know? And there's a little bitof of The Beguiled in there, you
know, with like the women andthe and the Cowboys kind of a
thing, but Jacob, I think thatyou'll really like where this
one goes. And I don't want tosay too much about it, because I
don't want to give away theending, but just say that when
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it gets to the ending, you'regonna be like, yes, yeah. You
know when, when the punch lineto the movie is very it's, it's
almost Tales from the Crypty,hmm. So what's it called? Again,
it's called place of bones.
Place of bones. Yes, place ofbones. And it is, it's, it's
Heather Graham is the big draw.
(23:59):
She's the big star.
Jacob Davidson (24:01):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
In terms of, oh, sorry, go on,Jon. Oh no, you go ahead. I was
gonna say in terms of newreleases, I actually just saw
that movie Demon Slayer (24:10):
Kimetsu
no Yaiba Infinity Castle
yesterday. And it's funny too,because, like, you know, I am
big into anime, but I neverreally got into demon slayer. I
just kind of saw it on a whim,also because feature anime has
really good animation, and theanimation this was really,
(24:32):
really cool, and definitelyfalls under horror. Because, I
mean, the basic premise of theseries is it's about these
people who have had familymembers killed or turned into
demons. And this is early night,early 1900s Japan. So there's
some tech, like trains andstuff, but yeah, no, they the
(24:57):
world. Industrializing and like,demons are going around killing
and turning other people intodemons. And the I'm a little I
was a little out of context,because this movie is a kind of
adaptation, or like featureversion, of one of the final
arcs of the series. So yeah, Iwas kind of jumping in. But I
(25:18):
actually kind of like that,because it reminded me a lot of
back in the day, when I'dwatched, like the Sci Fi Channel
Saturday anime, where I'd bejumping into watching like anime
movies or whatever anime picsthey had kind of out of context.
So, you know, just kind offalling in and then just seeing
what happens. And I also want tosee the English dub, because of
all people, Channing Tatumjoined the cast to do a voice
(25:40):
for the movie and Tatum.
Channing, Tatum,
Jonathan Correia (25:45):
I've been
singing the glorilla song all
week that were part of thelyrics. Are they get white, they
go white. Boy wasted. Chaining.
Tatum,
Jacob Davidson (25:56):
yeah, no, I did
read, although I did read, an
interview with him that kind ofexplains it basically that his
daughter is a huge anime fan, sohe and so he so she got him into
anime, and also he wanted to doit because demon slayer is one
of her favorite series. So it'sactually pretty sweet, and he
does give a very goodperformance.
Jonathan Correia (26:15):
That's
awesome. The the casino I'm
living in right now has aCinemark in it. And opening
night, they have, they had demonslayer playing in their XD
theater. And so it was coolwalking through the casino. And
there's all these like cowboysand stuff, because I'm at South
Point, there's an equestriancenter. But then there was a lot
of cost playing anime fans inthe mix as well that were
(26:39):
excited for the opening andstuff. So it was a cool, cool
mixture of people.
Jacob Davidson (26:44):
Yeah, it brings
me back to when I used to go to
anime Boston at the HeinzConvention Center, and you'd
have like, all these businesspeople in suits and stuff having
to walk around like all thepeople in cosplay who were
there.
Jonathan Correia (26:57):
Nice. Please
tell me you guys have seen This
Is Spinal Tap to the end.
Jacob Davidson (27:03):
Yes, I have not.
I did I was, I was at thepremiere.
Jonathan Correia (27:09):
Oh, man, what
a great time. I snuck in like an
11am on a Tuesday, had thetheater myself, which was a
little sad, because that's thatseemed like a film to watch for
the crowd. It was. But boy, theend continues. It's, it's the
band getting back together dueto their contract saying they
had to do one more concert,basically, and these guys have
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not missed a fucking beat. Imean, what do you expect? It's
Christopher Guest, MichaelMcKean and Harry Shearer and Rob
Breiner, like they're all stillfunny as fuck, especially
Christopher guesses Nigel, likeI that man in especially in that
character, will never not be thefunniest thing ever. They're
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just firing on all pistols. ButI was really stoked that, like,
because the problem with a lotof comedy sequels is they tend
to redo the same jokes, and itfelt more so like this was an
organic continuation of a lot ofthose jokes. Like Nigel,
especially he has, there's thisbit going on with him and foot
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pedals, and it's, yeah, it feelslike the continuation of the
turning it up to 11 joke, butthey're not, like, doing that
exact thing. But there's also,like, attention, because the
band hated the original moviethat came out, and so part of
the joke is like, they're,they're kind of on a forgiving
tour with the director of beinglike, yeah, we weren't really
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happy with how you portrayed us.
But like, you know, that's waterunder the bridge. But then,
like, there's little momentswhere, like, Rob Reiner's
character is interviewing Nigel,and he's talking about the foot
pedals, and you could tell he'sjust, like, instantly annoyed
with him, like, are you tryingto make me look like a fool
again? Yeah, these are mypedals. I like them. This one
does this thing. He's like,Yeah, but do you use any of
them? He's like, I do when Iwant to. And it's just, it's so
good, it's so good. Andeventually he has, like, dozens
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of foot pedals for whateverreason.
James Jay Edwards (29:04):
Can I just
say that one of my favorite
things about Correia is when hemixes his metaphors like that,
like you said, firing on allpistols because it still makes
sense. But firing on all pistonsis what I think. But firing on
all pistols still is such a bad
Jonathan Correia (29:20):
face, such a
Rickyism, yeah,
James Jay Edwards (29:23):
it's such a
rat way to say so, the big
question about spinal tap is,how are the songs?
Jacob Davidson (29:29):
It is, they were
good. Like, the big one is they
did a huge song for Stonehenge,and they don't want to spoil it,
but, like, they, yeah, they havea big set piece where they bring
out a giant where they bring outa big Stonehenge thing to to
fall behind them, and they'resinging about Stonehenge.
James Jay Edwards (29:49):
Are there any
new songs?
Jonathan Correia (29:51):
It's mostly
the the original songs. Yeah,
because they're because they'redoing, like their old stuff, but
it's still good, like they you.
They bring out Paul McCartney toperform with them, which was
really funny, because there's awhole bit of David state
hubbins, like, feeling like he'sbeing stepped on by Paul
McCartney coming in and, like,telling him how they should play
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stuff. And he's like, Man, Ican't. He's like, you know, he's
my idol, but, like, I couldn'tenjoy the moment because he's
telling me how to play my ownmusic, you know, but it's, but
it's fucking Paul McCartney andElton John comes out and play.
And I think there's, for me, atleast there was a bit of a of a
melancholy with it, becauseyou're watching this movie and
everyone's just, they're old,like, sorry to say, but like,
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everyone's older, and like theSpinal Tap guys are firing on
all cylinders, or
James Jay Edwards (30:43):
spinal tap
was 40 years ago. That was 19,
wasn't it?
Jonathan Correia (30:47):
Yeah, yeah.
But, like, it's the cameos,really, more than anything,
because Paul McCartney comesout, and he's kind of moving
like, Ozzy was, like, 10 yearsago and stuff, and it's just
like, oh, man, You doing allright? But, and then all sudden,
like, he starts playing it likenothing's changed. We nothing's
changed when he's playing. Andsame with Ellen John, where it's
like, they come out and you'rejust like, man, you're Oh,
you're getting you're getting upthere in age, and then they
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start playing. You're like, butnothing's changed there. They're
still great performers,
Jacob Davidson (31:12):
yeah. And one of
my favorite running gags with
the cameos, though, was like,how they they're desperate to
find a drummer, because everydrummer they've ever had has
died, and they even said theirlast one sneezed himself into
oblivion, like he sneezed sohard he died. And and it even
becomes a bit where, like theycall Questlove, and he doesn't
(31:34):
want to do it because he doesn'twant to die, he recommends Lars
Ulrich, who also doesn't want todo it because he doesn't want to
die, and so Lars Ulrichrecommends quest love. So be
kind of having some back andforth
Jonathan Correia (31:44):
thing. No, it
was, I think it was Chad Smith,
and, oh no, yeah, you're right.
Jacob Davidson (31:50):
Lars Ulrich,
yeah, knows, yeah, yeah, no, I'm
not gonna do it, but you shouldtotally get Chad to do it, yeah,
James Jay Edwards (31:59):
when back in
the in the 80s, when they were
auditioning drummers like it waslike a publicity stunt, but you
could go and you could auditionfor Spinal Tap, and they had a
guy audition in a in an asbestossuit, because their their
drummers spun, spontaneouslycombust, and he and he
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auditions, and He plays, andhe's good, and then he takes off
the the asbestos hat, and it'sMick Fleetwood in the asbestos
suit. Have you guys heard on theold I don't know if it's it's on
the Blu Ray I have, but I don'tknow if it's on anything else.
They they do a commentary incharacter. Oh, that's so, it's,
(32:42):
and it's, it's so, and it's kindof like what you're saying,
where they feel like they gotmade fools of because, like they
like, when it gets to the goesto 11 scene, all three of them
go, Oh, yeah. So we should havecopy written this. Can you
copyright that? Maybe trademore. You trade. We could. Is it
a patent? But you know, they'retalking about how that gets
ripped off so much, and theyshould have patented or
(33:05):
trademarked or copy, or whateveryou do,
Jacob Davidson (33:07):
yeah, yeah. And
it's funny because, like, I was
at the premiere at the grandma'sChinese Theater, and they did
the Q and A in character, likeChristopher Guest was not sorry,
Rob Reiner was Marty de Bergeand they had Christopher Guest,
Michael McKean and Harry Shearertap and Christopher Guest, or
(33:29):
sorry, no. Harry Shearer gavesome good advice, like because
somebody asked a question ofwhat kind of cheese to keep in
your guitar, and he recommendeda hard cheese. You don't want
any soft cheeses in your guitar,otherwise it will belt and ruin
all your instruments.
Jonathan Correia (33:45):
There's a
whole bit about, like, how his
post rock career is that he hasa cheese and guitar shop, and
it's amazing because he has aguitar that has, like a cheese
thing in it. But one of thethings, one of the great
additions to it is the newdrummer, played by Valerie
Franco, who, oh yeah, Didi,who's an actual drummer. This is
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her first acting role, and she'sawesome. Yeah, she's great
energy throughout the wholething. Her whole thing is that
she's like, high energy, andshe's trying to break the curse,
so she's eating super healthyand, like, avoiding a lot of
things. And then, not only that,but she's also queer, and so
there's like, one point whereone of the bandmates tries to
(34:28):
hit on her, and she's like, Ohyeah, we should definitely hang
out more. Oh, here's mygirlfriend. And they're all just
like, and instantly just like,okay, and yeah, she's just such
great energy. I also super crushon, uh, female drummers, anyway.
So it was just like, instantly,like, I love this character,
just great energy.
James Jay Edwards (34:49):
Got your
Samantha Maloney on, yeah,
Jonathan Correia (34:54):
that's what I
do. Always crush on the lesbian
drummer.
James Jay Edwards (34:58):
Um, have you
guys seen. Seen, um, since we
veered a little away from horrorwith spinal tap, have either you
guys seen A Big, Bold, BeautifulJourney? No, it just it. It came
out today when we're recordingthis, but I didn't know if
either you guys may have gone toa preview. This is, it's not a
horror movie, but it's kind oflike a Twilight Zone kind of
thing, because, um, it, it'sMargo Robie and Colin Firth, and
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they're, they're at, they meetat a wedding, and circumstances,
they both live in the same townand they're away from this
wedding. And circumstances havethem in the same car going back
home like one of the cars breaksdown that they rented, so they
have to ride back together, andtheir GPS is taking them on a
(35:43):
big, bold, beautiful journey,and it's leading them to these
doors. And they open the doors,and the doors will lead them to
different parts of their lives,so they get to see a little bit
of each other's history, butthen also they'll go, they'll
both go together and separatelike it takes him back to when
he starred in How to Succeed inBusiness Without Really Trying
(36:04):
in high school, and with her it,you know. You know it like,
opened up to, like, where anight with her mom, you know,
because her mom is has passedaway, and at one point they both
it goes to the same cafe whereboth of them had significant
events, you know, revolvingaround romantic partners. And
(36:28):
it's, it's, it's pretty it'spretty awkward to watch,
especially because eventuallyboth couples are at the same
table, having their fight likeacross from each other. I don't
know it's great, but it's kindof like a Twilight Zone kind of
thing. It's an interestingconcept, and my problem with it
is I didn't buy the chemistrybetween the two if it was just
(36:53):
if they didn't try to force aromantic angle into it, I think
it would have been moreeffective, just like two people
you know being you know, given aglimpse into each other's lives,
you know, they tried to makethem romantic partners instead
of just, you know, best friendsor soul mates kind of a thing.
So it was kind of awkward,because I didn't buy the
chemistry. But it's aninteresting movie, kind of more
(37:17):
fantasy than anything else.
Jonathan Correia (37:20):
That sucks to
hear that the chemistry wasn't
too Bible, because I've seensome of the interviews of them
together, and they're both sofucking charming.
James Jay Edwards (37:28):
Yeah, yeah,
it and they're both great
actors. So yeah, it was kind ofweird that the chemistry and it
makes you wonder if maybe it'sthe way it's written. But I
mean, there's one, there's onlyone part I can think of where
the chemistry between the two ofthem was good, and that is the
scene where they go back to hishigh school musical, and he's,
like, on stage, and he's kind ofbecause he is, you know, a 35
(37:52):
year old man, or a 30 year oldman, but his character that he's
playing on stage is 15. It'skind of weird to explain, but he
is, you know, like, what he'she's him himself. But then he
goes up, he goes, How old am I?
And his friends are like, whatare you? Are you crazy? You're
15, you know. So that's how, youknow. And he kind of gets
stumbled up, and she bails himout, and that's the only place
(38:12):
where I where there's any, anychemistry at all between the two
of them. And everywhere else,you're like, come on, you guys.
Try harder. You guys are bothgood. Try harder.
Jonathan Correia (38:27):
I have two
quick picks for Koreas book
nook. That's right, the SummerReading Challenge hasn't ended
for me, for the for the LosAngeles Public Library, it has,
but I'm still going hard.
There's this. There's a lot ofGodzilla comic books coming out
right now, and they're allpretty fucking awesome. There's
Godzilla In Hell, Godzilla SkatOr Die, but I'd like to talk
about Godzilla's MonsterpieceTheatre. That's right, the mash
(38:50):
up of the century, Godzillaversus Jay Gatsby, yeah. Is it a
versus really? Yeah, yeah, thebook opens up like it's the
Great Gatsby, and he's throwingone of his parties, and then
Godzilla comes and destroyseverything. And so Jay Gatsby,
because Daisy, the love of hislife, goes missing, Jay Gatsby,
(39:11):
swears vengeance, and he useshis large amount of wealth to
basically create the Gatsbyarmy, or the or what they call
the Gatsby force, G force, andhe elicits the help of Thomas
Edison, who turns out to befucking useless, because, of
course, it's Thomas Edison,fucking asshole. But he also
works with Sherlock Holmes, thetime machinist, which
(39:35):
eventually, of course, leads tothem encountering Dracula, of
course. And once you haveDracula into the mix,
Frankensteins monster, the mummywith a wolf man, all come out to
play, and by that point in thestory, you're just like in for
the ride. Because I will admit,it starts off like the the
illustration style is veryhighly stylized, very cool as.
(39:58):
Very like here at Adventures ofTintin, meets, like old school,
like newspaper comics with likethe coloring and stuff like, the
art is really cool, and it getsreally insane. Like, there's one
point where the Time Machine isgoes, here's a ring that makes
people huge, and so theyimmediately make, like, The Wolf
(40:18):
Man huge to fight him, and turnsinto a kaiju battle. And then
they're like, that's not enough.
Let's turn the mummy, becauseGodzilla smashed to Egypt. So
the mummy has a grudge, because,of course, that's going to go
there. So next thing you know,you got all the universal
Classic Monsters huge, butDracula is evil and still like
being a pain in the neck. Sothey make Jay Gatsby huge. And
(40:42):
someone goes, Wow, he really isThe Great Gatsby. Oh, wow. The
trade just came out. I highlyrecommend it. It's also
available on Hoopla, and the theother one I read was a
Pumpkinhead comic calledPumpkinhead Sins
Jacob Davidson (41:02):
Revisited. Oh,
yeah, I remember hearing about
that one. Yeah, that one's a
Jonathan Correia (41:07):
couple years
older. I think it's it came out
in 2018 the trade. It's reallycool because they go more into
the backstory of Haggis, thewitch who is the beholder for
Pumpkinhead. But it also goesinto how her sisters each also
can hearken one of the demonsthat is attached to a man's sin,
(41:31):
as they repeat many times in themovies and also this book, and
they actually show what thoseother demons look like. The
other demons are not as cool.
Let's be honest. Pumpkin Head isone of the, like, ultimate
creature designs ever. But it's,it's a lot of fun. It's very
interesting. There's, there's awhole plot of like, basically,
(41:54):
like, the sisters are alljealous of each other, but also
the demons are all jealous ofeach other, because pumpkin head
gets called all the time. Sothey turn, they turn on each
other, and it's, it's a funread. It's just nice to have
more pumpkin head stories, man,I wish they would make more of
those
Jacob Davidson (42:09):
movies, yeah, or
at least make movies of the
quality of the original
Jonathan Correia (42:15):
Yes,
especially when you look at
watch the Sci Fi originals.
Yeah. They were fun. They werefun that I remember that was
years ago.
Jacob Davidson (42:26):
Oh, well, I have
been seeing the 4k restorations
of the Nightmare on Elm Streetmovies. Ooh, yeah, because that
new 4k sets coming out. So Ithink it's kind of a cross
promotion thing. They've beenplaying them one at a time at
Alamo Drafthouse. So far, I'veseen Nightmare on Elm Street,
Freddy's Revenge and Nightmare
on Elm Street (42:48):
Dream Warriors.
And the restoration, yeah, thethe opening trilogy. And yeah, I
gotta say, the restorations lookamazing. I've seen them. I've
seen these movies over the yearson digital and on film. But,
yeah, no, the 4k restorationsare very, very well made. Like
the sound quality is reallygood, picture quality is really
(43:10):
good. Feels like Freddy is goingto pop right out of the screen.
Jonathan Correia (43:15):
They didn't
remove all the film grain and
all that, like with the Predatorrestoration, did they?
Jacob Davidson (43:22):
Yeah, I don't
think there's really any film
grain. It looks like it's like afull digital transfer.
Jonathan Correia (43:28):
Sometimes they
do it too clean, and then it's
like, dude, this film clearlycame out in the 80s. This looks
too, too clean
James Jay Edwards (43:35):
when I saw
that 4k restoration of of Texas
Chainsaw Massacre, they keptbecause you need the grain for
that. But, yeah, the bigimprovement was the sound that
saw is in your face.
Jacob Davidson (43:50):
Oh, yeah, but,
but yeah, no, I gotta say,
though, I think the visualtransfer was good. And yeah, I
mean, like it, yeah, theNightmare on Elm Street movies
don't really need grain, I don'tthink. But either way, I thought
that it was well enough that,you know, it just looked really
good, cool.
James Jay Edwards (44:11):
Well, before
we go, I just want just real
quick. Let's lightning fire.
Let's What are your just? Sowe're not just talking and like
reviewing movies here. What areyour most anticipated for the
rest of the year? And I'll tellyou mine first, first, I'm kind
of low key, looking forward toStrangers Chapter Two, mainly
because Chapter One was a remakeof the first one, except with
(44:36):
less likable characters and andI'm really curious to see where
they're gonna go with it withchapter two, because they
basically ended chapter one withthe end of the first movie. So
that it's more of a curiositything than I think it's going to
be good. But what I think isgoing to be good, and I'm high
key looking looking forward toGood Boy, you got. Heard about,
(44:58):
oh yeah, it's the ghost storyfrom the dogs point of view. Oh
my god, yeah, that's gonna be so
Jacob Davidson (45:06):
awesome. Yeah,
I'm going to beyond fest, and
the dog is going to be there forthe Q and A Yes. Oh, I am going
to ask that dog so manyquestions.
James Jay Edwards (45:14):
Good boy.
Good boy. What about you guys?
What are you looking forward to
Jacob Davidson (45:18):
for the rest?
Well, I'm going to stay off ofthat, in that there's actually a
couple movies I'm excited to seeat Beyond Fest, which is going
to be huge this year, gonna bebig chunky, but I am going to
see a few things. And I think mytop stuff right now is, yeah, I
am going to be seeing Good Boy,but I'm really excited for VHS
Halloween and Steven StevenKostanski's Deathstalker remake
(45:39):
or reboot and yeah, like, bothof those just look like so much
fun, and I'm really glad I'll beable to see them in full house
with beyond audiences. And like,I've gone to every VHS screening
at beyond fest since the firstone. So you know, I'm keeping
that trend going nice.
James Jay Edwards (45:59):
They should
give you a t shirt, not like
you're going to win one anyway.
Jacob Davidson (46:04):
I mean, well, I
did. I did get a VHS tape from
them once. But, yeah, you know,because they were, like, passing
stuff out of the Q and A butanyway, yeah, very excited for
Deathstalker like that. Thattrailer really had me hooked,
like it got a guy in theaudience that almost so hyped up
when they when the title dropfor Deathstalker, yet? Holy
shit, yeah, which is just how Ifeel.
James Jay Edwards (46:25):
I Correia.
What about you?
Jonathan Correia (46:27):
That's totally
understandable. I mean, Black
Phone 2, I am, yeah, I'm, yeah.
I kind of really stoked that,like Ethan Hawkes the grabber is
turn is turning into, like, aFreddy Krueger type character.
And I find it funny when a lotof people are like, Oh, It's
Supernatural. That's so againstthe first movie. It's like, the
(46:48):
whole thing of the first movieis this kid getting clues from
dead kids. Like, yeah, yeah.
They say it in the trailer forthe second one, you know, dead's
just a word. Like, I'm lookingforward to that. That looks
weird and trippy. And, you know,they're gonna go out of their
way to not do Freddy Krueger.
So, like, I'm interested inthat, of course, Running Man,
like, oh yeah, course RunningMan, I think, yeah, that just
(47:09):
looks passionate saying I'm sohyped for it, and that's coming
out this year.
James Jay Edwards (47:19):
We're getting
a new Osgood Perkins movie,
another one after the murder.
Jacob Davidson (47:23):
Yeah, yeah, it's
crazy.
Jonathan Correia (47:25):
That's true
Keeper. But one that I got more
recently hyped for is TinaRomero's queens of the
Jacob Davidson (47:32):
dead. Oh yeah,
we're screening that beyond fest
too.
Jonathan Correia (47:36):
Don't stop
bringing up beyond fest, dude,
because I'm missing all of it.
And Lindsay is getting ticketsto some of the best stuff. She
got tickets because they'repremiering that, or think it
might be West Coast premiere forthat, but they're also doing the
premiere for Boulet brothersTitans as, like, a double
feature. So, like, yeah, yeah,that that is, oh, that's so
good. And don't get me startedon the Miko Kaiji double
(47:57):
features that they're doing,because Lindsay's going to the
prisoner Scorpion, or femaleprisoner Scorpion double
feature, and I'm so mad becauseMiko Kaiji is going to be there
anyways. Queens of the Dead justlooks like a lot of fun. It's
drag queens versus Zombies, andhe got Katie O'Brien as the
Yeah, with Tina Romerodirecting, daughter of George.
(48:17):
So like, just looks like a fun,fun time.
Jacob Davidson (48:23):
Oh yeah, and it
comes, although it is getting a
theatrical release on October 24
Jonathan Correia (48:28):
and I'll be
there, because, again, I mean
drag queens and zombies andKatie O'Brien. Come on. Those
are, those are all my
James Jay Edwards (48:33):
favorite
things. Cool. Well, that's what
we're looking forward to. So um,hope you guys are too. Also,
there's Shelby oaks, but there'sa lot to look forward to.
Anyway, let's call this one anepisode. So yeah, let's, let's
get out of here. Our theme songis by restless spirit, so go
(48:54):
check them out. And our artworkis by Chris Fisher, so go check
him out. You can find us on allthe socials. So check that out
@eyeonhorror or ihorror.com andyeah, let us know what you
thought of him in a couple ofweeks. So until then, I'm James
Jay Edwards.
Jacob Davidson (49:13):
I'm Jacob
Davison
Jonathan Correia (49:14):
and I'm
Jonathan Correia.
James Jay Edwards (49:16):
Keep your eye
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