November 17, 2025 • 47 mins
The week, the boys continue reviewing films out of ScreamFest highlighting favorites such as Dooba Dooba, Damned If You Do, The Dollmaker, Cogn-AI-tive, and the new 4K restoration of Before The Fall.
But before that they catch up on a few new releases with Predator: Badlands, The Running Man, The God Man, The Home, Bugonia, and Bone Lake! Its all new on EYE ON HORROR!
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James Jay Edwards (00:25):
Welcome to eye on horror, the official
podcast of ihorror.com this isepisode 154 otherwise known as
season eight. Episode 14. I amyour host, James Jay Edwards,
and with me, as always, is yourother host, Jacob Davison, how
you doing?
Jacob Davidson (00:40):
Jacob, doing fun. Just stormy weather today.
Is it raining up there with youguys? It's raining down here.
Yeah, it's raining down here.
Raining up here. It's
James Jay Edwards (00:49):
a little late for this, though it's mid
November. This is the first realgood rain we've gotten, so I'm
excited, except the dogs arepissed. But also with us, as
always, is your other otherhost, Jon Correia, how you
doing?
Jonathan Correia (01:01):
Correia, it's cloudy, gloomy, perfect weather
to wear hoodies. So I'm veryhappy.
James Jay Edwards (01:09):
As opposed to poncho weather, it is
Jonathan Correia (01:11):
poncho weather too. Yeah, thank you for
reminding me I have my poncho.
It's somewhere around here,
James Jay Edwards (01:19):
only one poncho. I'm disappointed. I
thought you had, like, a closetfull of them. I
Jonathan Correia (01:23):
have two. I have an indoor and an outdoor
poncho. Well, one sticker,that's the I'm outside if I'm by
a campfire, you know, I don'twant, like my indoor poncho to
smell like campfire smoke. Soindoor outdoor poncho,
James Jay Edwards (01:41):
all right.
Well, let's get rolling withthis. What's been going on?
What's, what is the big newrelease that we've had so far
was Predator (01:47):
Badlands. Have we
all seen Predator (01:51):
Badlands?
Jacob Davidson (01:52):
Yeah, we've, we've seen it. Oh, we just think
I loved it. I thought it was oneof the, one of the best Predator
movies yet. Trachtenberg reallyknows how to play with the genre
and the premise of the Predatormovie by having it from a runt
predators perspective andteaming up with a bisected Elle
(02:15):
Fanning droid, and it worked asfun as L,
Jonathan Correia (02:20):
oh yeah. I had a blast with it. I mainly goes
going into it. I'm just like, Ineed predator action, some lore
building. And they gave, theygave so much more. I was a
little worried that they weregoing to do the have to have a
cute sidekick thing that's beengoing on ever since,
which they did. I mean a littlebit, but I will fight for Bud to
(02:40):
the end of the world and
James Jay Edwards (02:44):
give I meant that Thia was the cute sidekick?
Jonathan Correia (02:47):
Oh, I mean, well, yeah, I guess. Well, no, I
mean both of them, they weren'tjust there to be cute sidekicks
or anything, but I think theywere both funny, don't get me
wrong. But like that, they hadactual purpose in, like, arc and
story, and I really enjoyed it.
I yeah, I mean, it's, I willsay, though Killer of Killers, I
(03:08):
think, is the I love that onemore, but I still really love
Badlands.
James Jay Edwards (03:17):
Oh yeah. I went into Badlands wanting
something else. I wanted drop aPredator into cool situations,
kind of like we got with Killerof Killers, and exactly what we
got with Prey. And what I gotwas basically a lot of Waylon
Yutani lore, you know, which,you know, that's fine. It's
(03:37):
cool. You're building theuniverse. But the first half of
it, I really liked when it'sbasically the predator. The
premise of the thing is, thispredator has been culled. He was
he's supposed to be culled fromhis clan, because he's the weak
link. But with circumstances, hekind of escapes the culling and
he's going to capture his firsttrophy, which is this beast that
(04:00):
even his father is afraid of.
He's like, I'm going to showyou. I'm going to catch this
thing, the Kalisk. Yeah, theKalisk. And when he gets to this
other planet, basicallyeverything on this planet wants
to kill you. I mean, anything onthis planet can kill you. Like,
even the grass is like, sharpand it'll kill you. So that part
was kind of cool, when he, like,gets this plan and everything's
(04:23):
trying to kill him, and he'sgoing on the hunt. But then it
it becomes a different movie,because the the Elle Fanning
character is, is a synthetic, aWaylon Yutani synthetic, and,
you know, and when he finds her,it's only her top half, which is
kind of funny. So he's carryingaround like a backpack, like
Yoda style, because she can helphim find the Kalisk.
Jonathan Correia (04:47):
But she's also a droid that's never been in the
field, so she's like,constantly, like, this is great.
This is wonderful. Hey, did youknow this? Hey, let me ask you a
question about this. And it'sjust like, very, uh,
inquisitive. She, yeah,
James Jay Edwards (05:00):
yeah, yeah.
She, she loves it. She washaving the time of her life. But
I, I don't know, I think I just,I when it became like an alien
versus predator, even thoughthere are no Xenomorphs in it.
But when it became, you know, inmore of an alien movie than a
Predator movie, I was kind oflike, I, you know, let's go back
to, you know, dropping thepredator into cool situations.
(05:21):
But I do have one issue, and Iwant to see what you guys think
about. This isn't really aspoiler, but the synthetics that
are all on this planet, thereare two different kinds there,
and then they all look the same,played by the same actor and
actress. There's the male andthe female, yeah. And at 1.1 of
the males, Thea, the female isable to speak the aliens
(05:44):
language, and she has totranslate for the male. Why? Why
does the male synthetic not
Jacob Davidson (05:52):
well? Because they established that the males
were the combat androids whilethe L fanning droids were the
researchers.
James Jay Edwards (06:03):
So, okay, so, so they just didn't have the
translation programming or
Jacob Davidson (06:07):
check, I guess
Jonathan Correia (06:10):
only so much the CPU can hold and so
Jacob Davidson (06:14):
also, yeah, I guess they didn't think it would
make sense to have, uh, thecombat droids have that
capability. Well, you know, it'slike the the ones that are made
for research and alien biology,you know, that kind of tracks
with that.
James Jay Edwards (06:29):
Yeah, okay. I mean, I guess that makes sense,
but it that just kind ofbothered me. I'm like, Oh, wait,
how much programming can this,can this translation thing
actually take? But I guess, youknow, if you're going to take
away the guy's ability to pull atrigger, listen in order.
Jonathan Correia (06:46):
Listen predator Badlands. I was
expecting one thing, and itturned into, like, the greatest
video game adaptation ever,because it, and trenberg even
said, like, you know, it playsout like a video game, you know,
it's like, you start off withall your weapons, and then
you're stripped, and then you'restripped, and then you got to
build up your class and allthat, and then you get, by the
end, you have your weapons back.
It
Jacob Davidson (07:07):
also reminded me of Hundreds of Beavers,
James Jay Edwards (07:11):
which is coming back to theaters this
Christmas. Yep,
Jacob Davidson (07:14):
it's a Christmas tradition,
James Jay Edwards (07:18):
and it's funny because the video game
thing does track, because thebosses, you know, get bigger and
you know, you're you're buildingyour way through the the more
powerful bosses. So yeah, and
Jonathan Correia (07:30):
you have to go back to previous level to get
things. Oh, yeah. But I reallyappreciated a Predator movie
where the ultimate villain wascapitalism. I mean, that's
that's also something thathasn't really been done before,
and I appreciated the hell outof it, especially since, like,
you know, with the trailers andeverything they build up, that
(07:50):
the that, you know, this giantbeing the Kalisk was going to
be, like, the ultimate, like,showdown. And so I liked, I
like, it wasn't a twist, butjust like, where the story went
with it. I yeah, I appreciate itand the lore building. I mean,
come on, who's that? My mother,come on.
Jacob Davidson (08:11):
Without spoiling like they if you had a Predator
movie from predatorsperspective, you got to go more
into how that civilization worksand that kind of species. So I'm
glad they were able to do that.
Jonathan Correia (08:23):
And that opening like, chunk before he
goes to the planet with him andhis brother, like, that was,
that was some balls the wallsaction with like and like, the
CG performance was really good.
Like, I generally was like,Wait, are we, like, having
emotions for the predatorcharacter, right off the bat.
Okay, this is, this is hitting
James Jay Edwards (08:46):
hard. That's the other thing. Because this
one, and this is where it kindof gets into the alien versus
predator thing. It flips itbecause Deck the predator, he's
the hero, yeah, and, and thisisn't something you get from
Predator movies. You get it inpredator versus alien movies,
right? That's because the alienis more of a villain. But, yeah,
(09:07):
this, that was, the otherinteresting thing is, you,
you're with Deck the whole time,you know, I mean, he's the one
you're rooting for when,usually, you know, you're
rooting for the Native AmericanGirl or the, you know, Arnold
Schwarzenegger, yeah, the ninjaViking, World War two pilot or
whatever.
Jonathan Correia (09:28):
Yeah, it's, it's just a shit ton of fun
dude. I love the predatormovies, like I yeah, I just want
more more. Like, so much more. Ican't wait for his third one.
No, his fourth one. Now it'll behave either you
James Jay Edwards (09:44):
guys seen The Running Man? No, it just came
out tonight. Yeah, well, Ididn't know if you guys had seen
like, premiers or anything. Itis it? I think I expect a little
more from Edgar Wright. Oh, it'sa lot closer to the Stephen King
story. Then the original, it's,it's less, it's less cartoony,
(10:04):
which is kind of a negative,because it just comes off as
just another shoot them up, youknow. But it's basically, it's,
it's this dystopian, it, it'snot really futuristic, but it's
like an alternative realitywhere, you know, it's funny,
because they call them newdollars. It's the money, and
Arnold Schwarzenegger is onthem. Oh, yeah, he's the face on
(10:28):
him. But, um, this one guy,which is Glenn Powell, he he has
a sick daughter, his little babydaughter is sick, and he's
desperate for money, so he goesand tries out for these network
sanctioned game shows that hewas thinking, you know, I'll get
on one of these game shows I canwin, you know, 100, maybe 200
(10:49):
you know, new dollars and get mybaby to a doctor. Well, the only
one that he is, that he thatthey find him suitable for, is
the Running Man, which is thebig payout if you win this, it's
a billion dollars. But you alsohave to run from the hunters,
and it's a team of, I think,five hunters, and then they're
(11:10):
also like the agents, whichthere's way more of those. And
then basically you're runningaround the city, and you have to
live for 30 days with thehunters hunting you, and the
agents and everything. And alsothe all of the citizens of the
city, they get paid for tips,you know, like, like, if they
find the runner from the tips,it's a certain amount. If they
(11:32):
capture him or kill him, it's abigger amount, you know. So
basically, everybody in the cityis into you dying is what it is.
And and it is a lot closer tothe Stephen King one. It's more
of an indictment of reality TV,I think, than it is of game
shows and televisionentertainment, which is what the
(11:52):
original one was. But yeah,there's no there's no sub zero,
there's no buzz kill or buzzsaw. There's no buzz sound, buzz
kill, there's no buzz saw. Thereis one of the hunters does wear,
like a like a mask, so you can'tsee his face, but it's more ice
(12:13):
than anything else. You know, helooks like an ice agent, but,
yeah, it's just not as much funas the original. I mean, it's
got some cool stunt work andsome cool, you know, a lot of
stuff blows up and a lot ofbullets fly, but I think I just
expect him. The one thing thatis there from an Edgar Wright
(12:33):
movie is the music is awesome.
He that dude knows how to make asoundtrack. You know, that guy
knows how to pick songs forsoundtrack. It's all like, you
know, gritty, urban soul and hiphop mostly. But yeah, I was, uh,
I think I expected more fromEdgar Wright, because I was
pumped when I found out that hedirected I went into it not
knowing he directed it. Like Iliterally, when I was looking up
(12:54):
the running time for it, I waslike, Oh, this is Edgar Wright.
Okay, great. Oh, plus, it's twohours and 13 minutes. Do you
really need that much RunningMan, and to its credit, it is
actually pretty briskly paced. Iwill say it doesn't feel two
hours and 13 minutes. So it is,that is to its credit, but yeah,
it just, it's just anothermovie. It's nothing special.
Jonathan Correia (13:20):
I'm still excited for it.
James Jay Edwards (13:22):
Oh yeah, I mean, it's still worth seeing.
And I'd actually be curious tosee what you guys think of it,
because maybe I'm just jaded.
But you know, it's, you know,it's still cool, but it does, it
does have some cool twists. Andof course, you know it, it goes
some places you expect it to,and it goes some that you don't
expect it to. Oh, yeah, but youknow,
Jonathan Correia (13:44):
well, I have a, I have a new short film
available on YouTube,recommendation for you guys.
Have you heard of The God Man?
No. Oh, this is, this is, is agreat one. It's like, 10 minutes
long, nice, kind of meditative.
The premise is that, decadesago, NASA discovered this thing
(14:12):
coming towards Earth. And itturns out it's this giant being
just floating towards Earth inspace. And so the whole it's an
animated short. And so the wholeshort is this guy who worked for
her, for NASA, who firstdiscovered it on the telescope,
and how what it was like to betracking this, like floating
(14:34):
body, like massive, like store,multiple stories tall, building,
building of a body just floatingtowards Earth, and the kind of
cosmic horror, existentialcrisis that comes with it. It's
it's absolutely phenomenal. Idon't want to go into too many
details and spoil it, but highlyrecommend it if you, if you love
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some like Lovecraftian andmeditative. Like, God, if that's
what's out there, what else isout there? You
James Jay Edwards (15:06):
know, tight.
How long of a short is it? Howshort is short? Dude?
Jonathan Correia (15:10):
I'm like, nine and a half minutes. 10 minutes.
It's like, you could, you couldwatch this on your coffee break.
I put the phone down when you'rewatching it, though, because the
the animation is gorgeous. Itwas, like, made by, like, a very
small team. It's available onYouTube, and I, I just stumbled
upon it because of the name Iwas, like, The God man, what the
(15:32):
fuck and yeah. Animationsphenomenal. So check it out. All
right, yeah.
James Jay Edwards (15:39):
Have you guys seen that movie the home with
Pete Davison. No, he, hebasically plays this, this, this
criminal, but he's not really, Imean, he is a criminal, but it's
more like a graffiti artist,kind of a criminal, and he his
community service is to work inthis old age home. And, you
(16:02):
know, there's something notquite right in this old age
home, but it's, I mean, it's,it's a Pete Davison movie. It's,
it's very similar. I mean, notsimilar. It has kind of vibes of
like, Get out or The Substancekind of a thing where, you know,
you know, something weirdlymedical is going on with this
(16:22):
and and it does, where it endsup is actually really crazy
that, that that's kind of the,when you're watching it, you're
like, oh, is this going to gosomewhere? And, yes, it goes
somewhere, but it's, it's, youknow, it's kind of a, kind of a
fun little you know, it's PeteDavidson being Pete Davison,
(16:44):
whichmight be a positive and might be
a negative for some people.
I mean, he's, he's good in it,but I don't think it's much of a
stretch, you know,
Jacob Davidson (16:53):
yeah, that's awesome. And I finally saw
Bugonia. Oh,
James Jay Edwards (16:57):
what'd you think of Bugonia? I really liked
it. Oh,
Jacob Davidson (17:01):
that's so good, yeah, it's funny, because I did
see the movie. It was originallybased off of Save the Green
Planet!, the South Korean filmseveral years ago. So it is
interesting to see how Giorgosand his team translated that.
How close is it to? To that?
Fairly close. I mean, the endingis a bit different, and I feel
like thematically, it is a bitdifferent in that regard, too.
(17:26):
But yeah, no, actually, I can'tI oddly kind of like Yorgos's
version a bit more. I mean, it'smore topical, and I do feel like
it also kind of condensed a lotof the themes and plots of the
original movie. And, I mean,it's just such a good cast
(17:49):
between Jesse Plemons and EmmaStone and and also, I did like
Aidan delvis performance as Donyou know, just say, like, I
think this was his first movie,but, yeah, no, just it did a
good job of kind of condensingfrom the original story. And
(18:11):
it's also funny as hell, whilestill keeping a lot of the
conspiracy theory weirdness ofit. So, yeah, I really dug it.
The
James Jay Edwards (18:29):
conspiracy theory weirdness is what's funny
and it actually,
Jacob Davidson (18:32):
yeah, no, no. I mean, there is definitely a lot
of that too. Yeah.
James Jay Edwards (18:36):
I mean, Jesse Plemons, honestly, best factor
for me this year is a three wayrace between Jesse Plemons and
Bugonia Dwayne Johnson and TheSmashing Machine and Indy the
dog. In Good Boy,
Jacob Davidson (18:51):
yeah, that's tough competition.
James Jay Edwards (18:52):
I'm stumping for it. Best Actor, Indy the
dog. Yeah, no,
Jacob Davidson (18:57):
I think it's just interesting because, like,
the original movie dealt withthat kind of conspiracy
paranoia, you know, like theearly 2000s era, internet and
South Korea culturally. So thisis just kind of the modern
Western kind of conclusion.
Because, yeah, yeah. Just it didfeel very much of the times.
James Jay Edwards (19:26):
Is the original hard to find. I haven't
actually looked for it, but Iwould like to see it is, is it?
Is it available?
Jacob Davidson (19:32):
So, I mean, like, I watched it on the
criterion channel years ago. Imean, I don't know if it's still
on there, but I'm pretty sureit's available, you know, like
for streaming or rentalsomewhere or another.
James Jay Edwards (19:44):
Oh, I mean, I haven't looked so I not actually
sure how difficult it is tofind, but I would like to check
it out.
Jacob Davidson (19:52):
No, the original is worth seeing, especially, too
compared to Bugonia, again,tonally, they do feel a little
different.
James Jay Edwards (20:00):
Yes, I just want to see how different the
ending is, because the ending ofBugonia,
Jacob Davidson (20:06):
oh, yeah, it is.
It is interesting to compare thethe ending from Bugonia to the
original. And that not going tospoil how that goes. But it is
worth comparing, although Iactually kind of like the the
begonia version better.
James Jay Edwards (20:25):
Yeah, I don't, I don't. I don't want to
spoil the ending of Bugonia, buta friend of mine, he said that,
in his view, the movie endedabout 10 minutes before the end,
and when we stopped recording,I'll tell you when he went in
his view it ended, because Idon't want to spoil anything.
But yeah, there. The ending ofBugonia is something else. It's
(20:46):
pretty crazy. What about, Ithink we've all seen bone Lake,
right?
Jacob Davidson (20:52):
I didn't, I didn't see,
James Jay Edwards (20:53):
Oh, you didn't get around to it, okay?
Correia, you saw bone Lake,though I saw Bone Lake, or, as I
like to put it boner lake. Oneof the posters had the R for the
rating right next to the bones.
So it's bone R lake with goinginto bone Lake. This is another
one of those where this was notthe movie. I thought it was
(21:14):
going to be. I thought that itwas going to be. I thought it
was just going to be anothersexually charged slasher. And it
was not. It had hardcoreBarbarian vibes. And also that
movie from a few years back TheRental. You remember that? Yeah,
it's, it had, I mean, it'sbasically this couple goes to an
(21:38):
Airbnb. It's, it begins justlike Barbarian. This couple goes
this Airbnb, and another coupleshows up who also reserve the
same Airbnb from a differentplatform. And they're just like,
oh, you know what? Let's just,you know, it's a big enough
house. Let's just share it.
We're both going to get completewe're both going to get total
refunds because of this fuck up.
So let's just, you know, makethe best of it, and we'll, you
(22:02):
know, vacation together thisweekend, you know. And the
results are about as predictablybad as you would think,
Jonathan Correia (22:11):
predictably aspects that are not
predictable, actually.
James Jay Edwards (22:16):
No, I'm saying the results are
predictably bad, meaning they'rebad. But no, yeah, this movie is
not very it's not easy topredict at all. You It is
surprising where it goes. And itis, it is pretty crazy. I was
impressed because, again, bonelike you think about it, and
plus all the marketing for it isso horny and sexually charged,
(22:39):
and, yeah, and so you'reliterally thinking, you're like,
Okay, you know, this is a bunchof young people in a cabin
fucking and they're gonna alldie, and that's not what this
movie is at all.
Jonathan Correia (22:51):
Yeah, I was, I was very surprised, because I
remember seeing the first roundof, like, advertising for it,
and I went Bone Lake, and rolledmy eyes real hard, but I gave it
a solid shot. And I got to say,first and foremost, that that
opening few minutes, well,without spoiling it, is a very
strong start. It is a very like,oh, okay, that's where we are,
(23:14):
yeah, and so and so. Even likein the opening, it makes you
think that this is going to beexactly that, a horny slasher of
a bunch of young, attractivefolk, fucking dying. And it
really gets, it makes almost animmediate turn into, I want to
say, like a 90s sleazy thriller,like Wild Things with, like, a
(23:39):
heavy influence of, like, Who'sAfraid of Virginia Woolf, just
like psychosexual thriller whereit's just like, Wait, what the
fuck is going on? What when?
Like, who's a trustworthyNarrator right now, because it
was bouncing around a lot, andit did not forget to be goopy at
the end. Actually, no wet. Itwas a very wet ending in
(23:59):
multiple ways, but I had a lotof fun with it. It's really hard
sometimes to, especially whenyou set up the expectations of
there being a lot of kills andstuff, to have a film that's one
location and four characters andkeep the interest going. And
they had me the entire time. Iwas not bored. I had a lot of
fun with. I'm also a big fan ofthose 90s, like cheesy erotic
(24:22):
thrillers, so the fact that theylike played into that quite a
bit. I Yeah. I mean,
James Jay Edwards (24:31):
even I just thought of, there's also a
little bit of a parallel tospeak no evil, that the Speak no
evil remake that with Jamesmcboy, because it is one of
those deals where, like, there'sso much manipulation going on,
and you're like, Okay, who's onthe level and who's not, you
know, like it, it's prettygreat. But it is not just a a
(24:53):
cabin in the woods slasher atall, and that's what I was
expecting it to be. So, yeah,it. Don't let the name fool you,
and don't let the advertisingfool you. I feel like they're
throwing people off purposelywith that advertising. I think
they want people to go into itlike we did, and they want
people to come out of it like wedid. Like, okay, good. Well,
(25:15):
played. You know, this was notwhat I thought it was gonna be,
because I was impressed. Like,I'm like, dude, a movie called
Bone Lake. No.
Jonathan Correia (25:25):
And even the characters make the joke too.
They're like, bone Lake, yes, soyou mean boner, and they're
like, Oh, shut up, you know? Butit, yeah, it's a lot, it's a lot
of fun that I thought thecharacters were really well
done, is the relationships andhow things play out. I mean, the
whole bit with the ring just hadme going, what the fuck is going
(25:45):
on? Why? Why? What? Like it?
Just it threw me off so hard.
But, yeah, I It's a lot of fun,dude. I get, yeah, it's sleazy
in all the good, all the bestways.
James Jay Edwards (25:59):
And like you said, the bit with the ring. It
like it emotionally charges you.
Yeah, it's like, you you startfeeling things and, you know,
and I don't want to, like, giveanything away as to what emotion
you're feeling, but it is. It'scrazy. But yeah, bone lake,
don't hold the name against it.
And actually do go into itexpecting a cabin in the woods
(26:22):
slasher, because it's more funthat way. I mean, that was part
of the fun for me. Was okay,this is not that movie, which is
great. I liked that.
Jonathan Correia (26:33):
Now, Jay, I know we have a few more scream
fest titles that we've beenwatching, and I'm I hear you.
I'm excited to hear yourthoughts on dooba. Dooba Dooba,
James Jay Edwards (26:44):
dooba, dooba.
Speaking of crazy movies this, Iactually really liked it. I
liked Dooba Dooba a lot, but itis. It's almost like found
footage, because most of itlooks like it's shot from, like,
it looks like it's like veritestyle. It's like it's shot from
(27:05):
like, surveillance camera orlike, like home security camera
kind of a thing. But, yeah, itis.
Jonathan Correia (27:17):
But, but they like the esthetic is that, but
they completely drop, like, thepracticality of where these
fucking cameras have beenplayed, oh yeah, yeah, which
adds to the weird it feels likeyou're watching, like a serial
killer's like death videos orsomething like the whole time.
It's just uncomfortable. And
James Jay Edwards (27:35):
that's kind of thing you and I don't want to
spoil what happens in it, but itkind of makes sense that the
cameras would be in such weirdplaces, but it is disorienting,
because, you know, you'll havelike, there's a scene where the
whole thing is like, this girlis babysitting this this
teenager. It's like a 16 yearold girl that is being babysat.
(27:58):
And there are reasons why, that,you know, that she needs a
sitter. I mean, not, she's notlike, you know, really special
needs, but she does havepsychological issues. And
there'll be issues. There'll bescenes where they're sitting at
like a table, and all of asudden the camera switches and
they're on other it totallybreaks the 180 degree rule and
(28:21):
and it's really disorienting.
But everything about the movieis disorienting, you know, like,
you know they're playing truthor dare, and it's, it's a very
uncomfortable game of Truth orDare. But yeah, Dooba Dooba, it
and again, it goes places. Youknow, by the end of that movie,
you're like, What the hell am Iwatching here? And it's, it's
(28:42):
quick too. It's like, is itlike, 73 minutes? 76 minutes?
Jonathan Correia (28:49):
Yeah, it's not. It's not a long it's not a
long one. It knew when to itknew when to exit.
James Jay Edwards (28:55):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, totally, yeah.
It, but it, you know, which Imean, in my opinion, a movie
that knows when to get out isthe best thing. You know. I
always say that I would ratherwatch 3 80 minute slashers than
one Killers of the Flower Moon.
You know, one, three and a whichI heard the new Avatars, three
and a half hours. Oh, yeah.
(29:17):
Anyway, getting off topic, butno, Dooba Dooba, you haven't
gotten to Dooba Dooba, yet.
Jacob Davidson (29:23):
Jacob, no, I had a chance. Okay,
James Jay Edwards (29:27):
do you should. I'm really curious to
see what
Jonathan Correia (29:29):
you're gonna think of Dooba Dooba, it's so
far up your alley, dude, yeah,because
James Jay Edwards (29:33):
it does have that shot on video, kind of
thing going to but it's, butit's also more modern than just
like, well, the cameras are notmodern, it seems like they made
this with VHS cameras. And it'salso weird, because it's, it
purports to be the film projectof of, you know, like the final
(29:53):
film project of someone, and it,it's, it's like there's other
footage put in. Like thisfamily, for some reason, all of
them are named after presidents.
You know, they're, you know,there's Monroe is the girl, but
then there's Taylor andRoosevelt and all. And they go
to this weird thing wherethey're giving you fun facts
about the presidents, and thenthey'll cut into those and give
(30:16):
you fun facts about JeffreyDahmer. And you're like, What
the fuck is going
Jonathan Correia (30:23):
Yeah, and it's all like, it was edited on,
like, an super early version ofMicrosoft Movie Maker, with,
like, the traditions andeverything
James Jay Edwards (30:32):
and the and the overlaying text is, like, is
totally like, Movie Maker, yeah,yeah. But it is, and everything
makes sense. I mean, nothingabout this movie is random,
although it seems like it is atthe beginning, but yeah, it's,
it's,
Jacob Davidson (30:49):
yeah, no, I will definitely get to it when I can.
Does sound like my jam.
James Jay Edwards (30:53):
It's very, not, I Saw the TV glow. What's
the other We're All Going to theWorld's Fair. It's very, it's,
it's kind of like that kind ofthing. When you're watching it,
you feel like you shouldn't beseeing this, you know. But there
it is for you to see.
Jonathan Correia (31:09):
Great time. I also caught with the ScreamFest,
Damned If You Do. Have you guysheard of this one?
James Jay Edwards (31:16):
No, I heard of it. I haven't gotten to
Jonathan Correia (31:20):
it is. It is a lot of fun. So Damned if You Do
follows a group of teenage kidswho sell their soul to the
devil, and it's like a group offour, three do it. One doesn't.
And the devil they sell theirsouls to is Harvey Gilliam, from
what we do in the shadows, who'svery over the top, like with the
(31:43):
very first scene, I was like,Oh, I don't know if I could
stand him, like, in this modefor this long, but then he won
me over very quickly. Like, itwas just, like, too much right
off the bat, because a lot ofthese titles, I just went right
into it as blind as possible. SoI was like, there's a lot going
on, but he's a lot of fun. Andbasically they sell their souls
to have the life that they want.
And for 25 years, and so attheir 25th high school reunion,
(32:07):
they're supposed to relinquishtheir lives to the devil and
their souls. And so 25 yearslater, when they get back
together, it One of them's likegrew up, went and became a
successful rock star, and she'splayed by Kate Siegel, and you
also have Ginger Gonzaga Sagal,
James Jay Edwards (32:28):
Mike Flanagan's wife, Yep, yeah,
okay,
Jonathan Correia (32:32):
she's star, and I believe one of the
executive producers on it too,and then, but yeah, basically,
They show up at their highschool reunion, and their friend
who didn't take in love let itlike a pretty normal life. They
tried to get her to help them ingetting out of the contract
because she became a lawyer.
Meanwhile, yes, Harvey Gillianis the whole time is just being
(32:54):
a sassy, sassy motherfucker.
It's great. Kate Siegel'scharacter went on to be a rock
star. One of them went on to belike a sellout version of Greta
Gerberg. And then the guy becamebasically Mark Zuckerberg in
like, yeah, he's great. He'splayed by Paulo Costanzo, who
(33:18):
was in like, a bunch of liketeen comedies back in the day,
like Josie and the Pussycats andRoad Trip. If you see a picture
of him, you'll be like, Thatguy. I haven't seen him in a
minute, and he plays like a spoton Zuckerberg, like, in in like,
I'm talking like Congresstestimony, Zuckerberg, where
(33:39):
you're just like things thatcome out of his mouth, you're
like, gross. What a gross dude.
But it's a really fun horrorcomedy. I There's a lot of heart
in it. Everyone's serving cuntin it, like, everyone's looking
great and like having fun. And,you know, there's some really
great kills. Oh, one of thethings they find out is they can
(33:59):
keep their souls if theysacrifice somebody else. So
they're like, trying to pick outwho in their high school reunion
to essentially take their place.
And so it's a lot of like, Oh,this guy was an asshole to me in
high school. Oh, this person didthis to me in high school. And
then, like, meet them. And sothere's like, a lot of like, you
(34:21):
know, back and forth on like,can you damn someone for all
eternity just to save your ownsoul? Type deal going on? It's,
yeah, it's a lot of fun
James Jay Edwards (34:31):
if they were an asshole in high school. Yes,
you can, yeah. So that's prettybig budget. Then, I mean, this
isn't like one of these littleindies that we're seeing from
Jonathan Correia (34:44):
screen. Oh, it's, it's, honestly, it's, it
seems pretty like, tight. Itseemed like it was on a tight
budget. But, like, okay, butlike, every dollar was put on
that screen, there's a reallyfun cameo that I won't spoil,
but. When you see it, you'llknow it. But, yeah, it's, it's,
it was just a fun time andagain, it came out of it was one
(35:07):
of those came out of nowhere.
And I was like, Oh crap. Like, Igot five minutes into it. I was
like, I gotta call Lindsay inhere. She's got to watch this
with me, because Kate Sagalimmediately, just like, stole
the scene that she when shefirst appears, and just doesn't
stop.
James Jay Edwards (35:20):
I've done that before. I've gotten five
minutes into a movie and I'vepaused. I go, Trish, you got to
watch this movie. I'll rewind.
Yeah, totally. I'll watch thefirst five minutes again. As far
as ScreamFest titles go, dideither you guys get to The
Dollmaker? I think it'sEncantador. Is the, it's a, I
want to say it's an Argentinianmovie. No, I didn't get to that
(35:42):
one translates to The Dollmaker.
This movie is, is messed up.
This he is, and the guy who themain guy is, the character's
name is Thomas. He gives anamazing performance. And I think
he actually won Best Actor atthe festival for this. But
basically it's about this, thisguy who he he takes care of his
(36:05):
his aging mother, and then healso collects dolls. And at the
same time in his town, theseteenage girls go start going
missing. And you can kind ofguess where things are going,
but then you can kind of notguess you know, like, you know
he's a suspect and he's not asuspect, then other suspects pop
(36:28):
in and that you know, but youcan't. You can't really prepare
yourself for where this moviegoes. And in true scream fest
fashion, this year. This movieis buckets of blood. This movie
is is really violent and really,you know, everything is on
(36:49):
screen, but everything is on thefloor on screen. I mean, there's
just blood, guts and entrails.
Um, there's one scene that is.
So it's a total shining homage.
I won't even say rip. It's anhomage, and you'll know it when
(37:10):
you see it, if you get to thismovie, and the whole time, I'm
like, they're doing the shining.
They're doing the shining. Andsure enough, it plays out
exactly like the shining, likeeven like, when it gets to the
end of the scene, you're like,Yeah, they did that. Just like,
there was nothing subtle aboutit. The filmmaker knew that
people were gonna know he wasdoing the shining. But yeah, The
(37:32):
Dollmaker and canta and cantadoris what the translation. And
it's Argentinian. I know theyspeak Spanish in it, but I think
it's Argentinian. They
Jonathan Correia (37:44):
had a lot of, like, real, real gnarly, real,
real dirty, dirty titles thisyear at ScreamFest I love it.
That's what
James Jay Edwards (37:51):
we were talking about last time with,
with like, Jimmy and and was itDead By Dawn?
Jonathan Correia (37:57):
Yeah.
James Jay Edwards (37:58):
Real gnarly mother. There's a lot of blood
and guts.
Jonathan Correia (38:02):
Love it, love to see it, yeah? One that's
dirty in a different way wasCogn-Ai-tive. Also at Scream
fest, it's cog, and then whereit they a it's AI, because it's
a whole thing about AI,
James Jay Edwards (38:19):
like a fray eyed,
Jonathan Correia (38:20):
yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah. It's, it's
a tech startup on the verge oflaunching their AI cog called
Cognitive, the new AI chat. Butchat bot with that's supposed to
be like the fastest and mostintelligent AI system. But soon,
you know, they figure out, Ohno, this. All the safety
(38:43):
features have been shut off, andso it's this, like tech The
group behind it, are locked inthis building, and the AI system
is trying to get out. And if youhate AI, this, this film is for
you. It's really because it'sthe entire group of these tech
heads that are, like, fightingagainst this AI group. They're
(39:06):
just kind of the worst of theworst. Like, it's, it's, it's
the people you expect to beworking on these data scraping
models. Some of them have someredeeming qualities, but for the
most part, you're sitting theregoing, God, I can't wait for
this guy to fucking get it. Butit's, it's a lot of fun. They
have Noel Fisher from like the,think he was in the what's,
(39:29):
what's the one of the big familywith William H Macy that show
James Jay Edwards (39:35):
weeds, California. No, no. I know the
movie you're I know the showyou're
Jonathan Correia (39:42):
talking with the Gallagher family. Yeah,
James Jay Edwards (39:44):
I can't. I'm totally blanking on it.
Jacob Davidson (39:47):
I'm looking, I'm looking it up now. Shameless,
Jonathan Correia (39:50):
Shameless, Shameless, yeah,
James Jay Edwards (39:52):
yeah. Fun fact, William H Macy is in The
Running Man, yeah, oh yeah. Hehas a, he has like a, like a one
scene. Scene, scene stealingperformance. I should say
anyway, go on,
Jonathan Correia (40:04):
that's awesome. Well, it's got Noel
Fisher from shameless. And he's,if you know him, from shameless.
He was very dirty in that show.
So it was really funny to seehim all like, cleaned up,
playing Super tech douche bro.
But yeah, I mean, every you knowpeople get their com offense.
They're fighting it. It's veryfuck you to AI, so I appreciated
the hell out of it. And it was aedited by a friend of the
(40:27):
podcast, Patrick Lawrence, whojust had on the other day. So I
don't know when this one'scoming out, but I recommend it.
It's a lot of fun.
James Jay Edwards (40:35):
Cool. Another ScreamFest, actually, the last
of them that I've done for thisround was called Before the
Fall, which, this is a, I thinkthis might be Chilean, and the
it's translated tres Deus, whichis three days. I don't know why
they got Before the Fall, butbasically, this movie is at the
(40:57):
very beginning, you get, there'sthis asteroid coming toward
Earth. It's gonna destroy theEarth in three days. So
everybody is like, basically,you know, some people are just
okay, I'm gonna get this overwith. And they're killing
themselves, and other people arejust trying to live it up. And
you know that people are tryingto get out of town, but fuels at
a, at a, at a premium, and otherpeople are just like, Yeah, I'm
(41:21):
just going to get drunk andlisten to music. Well, the end
of the world is not the mainstory of this movie. It's just
the backdrop, because there is,one of the things that happens
with this end of the world isthere's a prison break, and all
these prisoners get out, andthis one guy, one of the
prisoners, swore revenge on thisfamily, and now that he's out,
(41:43):
he's going to use the last threedays of Earth to to get revenge,
and it's all about the guy whois going to protect the kids
from this prisoner So, and it'sanother one of those. It's like,
kind of like Alone in the Dark,where it's like, you don't know,
you don't know who to trust.
You're like, Okay, wait, is thisguy on the level? Is this girl
(42:03):
on the level? You know you'reyou're like, Okay, who is this?
Is this person really who hesays he is? Or is this because
you don't meet the the prisonerguy until that like, there's a
lot of suspects in it, but it'sand again, it is. It is a
brutally violent movie, bothwith people who just want to end
(42:26):
it because of this asteroid, orwith people getting killed. And
it is. It's pretty disturbedthis. That movie is actually
from, I want to say 2008 butit's like the 4k release that
that ScreamFest had. And that'sright, this. This movie looks
pretty high budget. I mean, itlooks great, so if that's what
(42:48):
they're pushing, you know, welldone. The 4k release does look
and sound great, but the movieas a whole, I had never seen,
and the movie as a whole ispretty disturbing as well.
Jacob Davidson (43:04):
Hell yeah. And Have either of you seen meat
kills?
James Jay Edwards (43:08):
Yeah, meat killed that. That was the, that
was the one that Correia and Iwere not arguing. We were
talking about. Was it meat killsor meat days? Yeah. Oh, right,
yeah, yeah.
Jacob Davidson (43:19):
What did you see it? No, I just gotta. I do want
to get around to it, though,because apparently it is getting
a stateside release, and it hasbeen getting a lot of reviews,
like being really gory anddisturbing.
James Jay Edwards (43:36):
It is, it has, I mean, we talked about it
last screen fest. I don't wantto go too far into it, but into
it, but it's like, basicallyanimal rights activists versus
the slaughterhouse family,
Jonathan Correia (43:49):
right? Yeah,
James Jay Edwards (43:51):
no, no, no, no, it there, yeah, everyone
comes off looking like anasshole, but it kind of has
Hostel vibes in it, you know,it's which, you know, goes to
why it's so disturbing and goryand stuff. But yeah, it I get,
you know, Meat Kills meat days.
It's weird that the translationfor the subtitles was different
than the translation that's onIMDb. But I guess, did you see
(44:12):
like, a press release for itwhere they're calling it Meat
Kills
Jonathan Correia (44:18):
at Scream fest? That's what it was called.
Yeah, okay. And I think that'sthe North American Title for it,
because sometimes they givemovies different
James Jay Edwards (44:25):
titles and different Well, I know when it's
because it's what is it, Veer,slog or something like that. Is
what it it original title is.
And the subtitles on thescreener we got it said
underneath, you know, meet days.
So I'm like, Okay, what? Butokay, I don't know.
Jacob Davidson (44:42):
No, either way.
I do want to try and get to thatone.
James Jay Edwards (44:44):
Yeah, it's you should have a screener for
it. Yeah, in your in your email,because I think you got the same
emails I had so and I'm surethat we'll do another screen
fest. There was just so muchthis year and so much good
stuff. And I need to get to someof the stuff that you guys.
Said, or that, you know,Correia, Damned If You Do. I
need to, I definitely need towatch, Damned If You Do.
Jonathan Correia (45:06):
Oh yeah, no, I highly recommend as well,
especially since, like, a lot ofthese ScreamFest titles we're
talking about, we're talkingabout, like, how gnarly and
nasty and like, just how likethey, like bloody they are,
damned if you do. It's stillvery bloody, but it was a nice
palate cleanse of like beingconstantly uncomfortable or or
(45:29):
just in, in the gnarliness. Youknow, it's, it's a fun time.
James Jay Edwards (45:34):
Well, let's, let's call this one an episode,
and get the heck out of here.
There's another one of thosewhere it's just us talking,
which is fine, after the lastepisode where there were five
people talking, yeah, six, ifyou count me, who didn't do much
talking. But, uh, yeah, we'llget back to Correia. Is, is his
gears are turning. He's got somecool guests that he's lining up.
(45:58):
It's just a matter ofscheduling. So you'll get, if
you like the guests, you'll getthem
Jonathan Correia (46:04):
scheduling guests for podcasts is like
trying to schedule a D and Dsession, it's next to impossible
to get schedules without going
Jacob Davidson (46:12):
and going and going
James Jay Edwards (46:14):
or, like, scheduling a fantasy football
draft,
Jonathan Correia (46:16):
which is, which is D and D for sports
nerds.
Unknown (46:19):
It totally is DND for sports nerds. So let's let on
that. Let's get out of here. Soour theme song is by restless
spirit, so go check them out.
And our artwork is by ChrisFisher, so go check him out. You
can check us out on all thesocials, under eye on horror,
or@ihorror.com which is the sitewe all call home. And we will
see you in a little bit withmore scream Fest and more other
(46:43):
movies and, you know, justgeneral banter and, yeah, see in
a couple weeks. So for me, JamesJay Edwards,
Jacob Davidson (46:53):
I'm Jacob Davison
Jonathan Correia (46:54):
And I'm Jonathan Correia.
James Jay Edwards (46:55):
Keep your eye on horror.
Welcome to eye on horror, the official
podcast of ihorror.com this isepisode 154 otherwise known as
season eight. Episode 14. I amyour host, James Jay Edwards,
and with me, as always, is yourother host, Jacob Davison, how
you doing?
Jacob Davidson (00:40):
Jacob, doing fun. Just stormy weather today.
Is it raining up there with youguys? It's raining down here.
Yeah, it's raining down here.
Raining up here. It's
James Jay Edwards (00:49):
a little late for this, though it's mid
November. This is the first realgood rain we've gotten, so I'm
excited, except the dogs arepissed. But also with us, as
always, is your other otherhost, Jon Correia, how you
doing?
Jonathan Correia (01:01):
Correia, it's cloudy, gloomy, perfect weather
to wear hoodies. So I'm veryhappy.
James Jay Edwards (01:09):
As opposed to poncho weather, it is
Jonathan Correia (01:11):
poncho weather too. Yeah, thank you for
reminding me I have my poncho.
It's somewhere around here,
James Jay Edwards (01:19):
only one poncho. I'm disappointed. I
thought you had, like, a closetfull of them. I
Jonathan Correia (01:23):
have two. I have an indoor and an outdoor
poncho. Well, one sticker,that's the I'm outside if I'm by
a campfire, you know, I don'twant, like my indoor poncho to
smell like campfire smoke. Soindoor outdoor poncho,
James Jay Edwards (01:41):
all right.
Well, let's get rolling withthis. What's been going on?
What's, what is the big newrelease that we've had so far
was Predator (01:47):
Badlands. Have we
all seen Predator (01:51):
Badlands?
Jacob Davidson (01:52):
Yeah, we've, we've seen it. Oh, we just think
I loved it. I thought it was oneof the, one of the best Predator
movies yet. Trachtenberg reallyknows how to play with the genre
and the premise of the Predatormovie by having it from a runt
predators perspective andteaming up with a bisected Elle
(02:15):
Fanning droid, and it worked asfun as L,
Jonathan Correia (02:20):
oh yeah. I had a blast with it. I mainly goes
going into it. I'm just like, Ineed predator action, some lore
building. And they gave, theygave so much more. I was a
little worried that they weregoing to do the have to have a
cute sidekick thing that's beengoing on ever since,
which they did. I mean a littlebit, but I will fight for Bud to
(02:40):
the end of the world and
James Jay Edwards (02:44):
give I meant that Thia was the cute sidekick?
Jonathan Correia (02:47):
Oh, I mean, well, yeah, I guess. Well, no, I
mean both of them, they weren'tjust there to be cute sidekicks
or anything, but I think theywere both funny, don't get me
wrong. But like that, they hadactual purpose in, like, arc and
story, and I really enjoyed it.
I yeah, I mean, it's, I willsay, though Killer of Killers, I
(03:08):
think, is the I love that onemore, but I still really love
Badlands.
James Jay Edwards (03:17):
Oh yeah. I went into Badlands wanting
something else. I wanted drop aPredator into cool situations,
kind of like we got with Killerof Killers, and exactly what we
got with Prey. And what I gotwas basically a lot of Waylon
Yutani lore, you know, which,you know, that's fine. It's
(03:37):
cool. You're building theuniverse. But the first half of
it, I really liked when it'sbasically the predator. The
premise of the thing is, thispredator has been culled. He was
he's supposed to be culled fromhis clan, because he's the weak
link. But with circumstances, hekind of escapes the culling and
he's going to capture his firsttrophy, which is this beast that
(04:00):
even his father is afraid of.
He's like, I'm going to showyou. I'm going to catch this
thing, the Kalisk. Yeah, theKalisk. And when he gets to this
other planet, basicallyeverything on this planet wants
to kill you. I mean, anything onthis planet can kill you. Like,
even the grass is like, sharpand it'll kill you. So that part
was kind of cool, when he, like,gets this plan and everything's
(04:23):
trying to kill him, and he'sgoing on the hunt. But then it
it becomes a different movie,because the the Elle Fanning
character is, is a synthetic, aWaylon Yutani synthetic, and,
you know, and when he finds her,it's only her top half, which is
kind of funny. So he's carryingaround like a backpack, like
Yoda style, because she can helphim find the Kalisk.
Jonathan Correia (04:47):
But she's also a droid that's never been in the
field, so she's like,constantly, like, this is great.
This is wonderful. Hey, did youknow this? Hey, let me ask you a
question about this. And it'sjust like, very, uh,
inquisitive. She, yeah,
James Jay Edwards (05:00):
yeah, yeah.
She, she loves it. She washaving the time of her life. But
I, I don't know, I think I just,I when it became like an alien
versus predator, even thoughthere are no Xenomorphs in it.
But when it became, you know, inmore of an alien movie than a
Predator movie, I was kind oflike, I, you know, let's go back
to, you know, dropping thepredator into cool situations.
(05:21):
But I do have one issue, and Iwant to see what you guys think
about. This isn't really aspoiler, but the synthetics that
are all on this planet, thereare two different kinds there,
and then they all look the same,played by the same actor and
actress. There's the male andthe female, yeah. And at 1.1 of
the males, Thea, the female isable to speak the aliens
(05:44):
language, and she has totranslate for the male. Why? Why
does the male synthetic not
Jacob Davidson (05:52):
well? Because they established that the males
were the combat androids whilethe L fanning droids were the
researchers.
James Jay Edwards (06:03):
So, okay, so, so they just didn't have the
translation programming or
Jacob Davidson (06:07):
check, I guess
Jonathan Correia (06:10):
only so much the CPU can hold and so
Jacob Davidson (06:14):
also, yeah, I guess they didn't think it would
make sense to have, uh, thecombat droids have that
capability. Well, you know, it'slike the the ones that are made
for research and alien biology,you know, that kind of tracks
with that.
James Jay Edwards (06:29):
Yeah, okay. I mean, I guess that makes sense,
but it that just kind ofbothered me. I'm like, Oh, wait,
how much programming can this,can this translation thing
actually take? But I guess, youknow, if you're going to take
away the guy's ability to pull atrigger, listen in order.
Jonathan Correia (06:46):
Listen predator Badlands. I was
expecting one thing, and itturned into, like, the greatest
video game adaptation ever,because it, and trenberg even
said, like, you know, it playsout like a video game, you know,
it's like, you start off withall your weapons, and then
you're stripped, and then you'restripped, and then you got to
build up your class and allthat, and then you get, by the
end, you have your weapons back.
It
Jacob Davidson (07:07):
also reminded me of Hundreds of Beavers,
James Jay Edwards (07:11):
which is coming back to theaters this
Christmas. Yep,
Jacob Davidson (07:14):
it's a Christmas tradition,
James Jay Edwards (07:18):
and it's funny because the video game
thing does track, because thebosses, you know, get bigger and
you know, you're you're buildingyour way through the the more
powerful bosses. So yeah, and
Jonathan Correia (07:30):
you have to go back to previous level to get
things. Oh, yeah. But I reallyappreciated a Predator movie
where the ultimate villain wascapitalism. I mean, that's
that's also something thathasn't really been done before,
and I appreciated the hell outof it, especially since, like,
you know, with the trailers andeverything they build up, that
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the that, you know, this giantbeing the Kalisk was going to
be, like, the ultimate, like,showdown. And so I liked, I
like, it wasn't a twist, butjust like, where the story went
with it. I yeah, I appreciate itand the lore building. I mean,
come on, who's that? My mother,come on.
Jacob Davidson (08:11):
Without spoiling like they if you had a Predator
movie from predatorsperspective, you got to go more
into how that civilization worksand that kind of species. So I'm
glad they were able to do that.
Jonathan Correia (08:23):
And that opening like, chunk before he
goes to the planet with him andhis brother, like, that was,
that was some balls the wallsaction with like and like, the
CG performance was really good.
Like, I generally was like,Wait, are we, like, having
emotions for the predatorcharacter, right off the bat.
Okay, this is, this is hitting
James Jay Edwards (08:46):
hard. That's the other thing. Because this
one, and this is where it kindof gets into the alien versus
predator thing. It flips itbecause Deck the predator, he's
the hero, yeah, and, and thisisn't something you get from
Predator movies. You get it inpredator versus alien movies,
right? That's because the alienis more of a villain. But, yeah,
(09:07):
this, that was, the otherinteresting thing is, you,
you're with Deck the whole time,you know, I mean, he's the one
you're rooting for when,usually, you know, you're
rooting for the Native AmericanGirl or the, you know, Arnold
Schwarzenegger, yeah, the ninjaViking, World War two pilot or
whatever.
Jonathan Correia (09:28):
Yeah, it's, it's just a shit ton of fun
dude. I love the predatormovies, like I yeah, I just want
more more. Like, so much more. Ican't wait for his third one.
No, his fourth one. Now it'll behave either you
James Jay Edwards (09:44):
guys seen The Running Man? No, it just came
out tonight. Yeah, well, Ididn't know if you guys had seen
like, premiers or anything. Itis it? I think I expect a little
more from Edgar Wright. Oh, it'sa lot closer to the Stephen King
story. Then the original, it's,it's less, it's less cartoony,
(10:04):
which is kind of a negative,because it just comes off as
just another shoot them up, youknow. But it's basically, it's,
it's this dystopian, it, it'snot really futuristic, but it's
like an alternative realitywhere, you know, it's funny,
because they call them newdollars. It's the money, and
Arnold Schwarzenegger is onthem. Oh, yeah, he's the face on
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him. But, um, this one guy,which is Glenn Powell, he he has
a sick daughter, his little babydaughter is sick, and he's
desperate for money, so he goesand tries out for these network
sanctioned game shows that hewas thinking, you know, I'll get
on one of these game shows I canwin, you know, 100, maybe 200
(10:49):
you know, new dollars and get mybaby to a doctor. Well, the only
one that he is, that he thatthey find him suitable for, is
the Running Man, which is thebig payout if you win this, it's
a billion dollars. But you alsohave to run from the hunters,
and it's a team of, I think,five hunters, and then they're
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also like the agents, whichthere's way more of those. And
then basically you're runningaround the city, and you have to
live for 30 days with thehunters hunting you, and the
agents and everything. And alsothe all of the citizens of the
city, they get paid for tips,you know, like, like, if they
find the runner from the tips,it's a certain amount. If they
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capture him or kill him, it's abigger amount, you know. So
basically, everybody in the cityis into you dying is what it is.
And and it is a lot closer tothe Stephen King one. It's more
of an indictment of reality TV,I think, than it is of game
shows and televisionentertainment, which is what the
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original one was. But yeah,there's no there's no sub zero,
there's no buzz kill or buzzsaw. There's no buzz sound, buzz
kill, there's no buzz saw. Thereis one of the hunters does wear,
like a like a mask, so you can'tsee his face, but it's more ice
(12:13):
than anything else. You know, helooks like an ice agent, but,
yeah, it's just not as much funas the original. I mean, it's
got some cool stunt work andsome cool, you know, a lot of
stuff blows up and a lot ofbullets fly, but I think I just
expect him. The one thing thatis there from an Edgar Wright
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movie is the music is awesome.
He that dude knows how to make asoundtrack. You know, that guy
knows how to pick songs forsoundtrack. It's all like, you
know, gritty, urban soul and hiphop mostly. But yeah, I was, uh,
I think I expected more fromEdgar Wright, because I was
pumped when I found out that hedirected I went into it not
knowing he directed it. Like Iliterally, when I was looking up
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the running time for it, I waslike, Oh, this is Edgar Wright.
Okay, great. Oh, plus, it's twohours and 13 minutes. Do you
really need that much RunningMan, and to its credit, it is
actually pretty briskly paced. Iwill say it doesn't feel two
hours and 13 minutes. So it is,that is to its credit, but yeah,
it just, it's just anothermovie. It's nothing special.
Jonathan Correia (13:20):
I'm still excited for it.
James Jay Edwards (13:22):
Oh yeah, I mean, it's still worth seeing.
And I'd actually be curious tosee what you guys think of it,
because maybe I'm just jaded.
But you know, it's, you know,it's still cool, but it does, it
does have some cool twists. Andof course, you know it, it goes
some places you expect it to,and it goes some that you don't
expect it to. Oh, yeah, but youknow,
Jonathan Correia (13:44):
well, I have a, I have a new short film
available on YouTube,recommendation for you guys.
Have you heard of The God Man?
No. Oh, this is, this is, is agreat one. It's like, 10 minutes
long, nice, kind of meditative.
The premise is that, decadesago, NASA discovered this thing
(14:12):
coming towards Earth. And itturns out it's this giant being
just floating towards Earth inspace. And so the whole it's an
animated short. And so the wholeshort is this guy who worked for
her, for NASA, who firstdiscovered it on the telescope,
and how what it was like to betracking this, like floating
(14:34):
body, like massive, like store,multiple stories tall, building,
building of a body just floatingtowards Earth, and the kind of
cosmic horror, existentialcrisis that comes with it. It's
it's absolutely phenomenal. Idon't want to go into too many
details and spoil it, but highlyrecommend it if you, if you love
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some like Lovecraftian andmeditative. Like, God, if that's
what's out there, what else isout there? You
James Jay Edwards (15:06):
know, tight.
How long of a short is it? Howshort is short? Dude?
Jonathan Correia (15:10):
I'm like, nine and a half minutes. 10 minutes.
It's like, you could, you couldwatch this on your coffee break.
I put the phone down when you'rewatching it, though, because the
the animation is gorgeous. Itwas, like, made by, like, a very
small team. It's available onYouTube, and I, I just stumbled
upon it because of the name Iwas, like, The God man, what the
(15:32):
fuck and yeah. Animationsphenomenal. So check it out. All
right, yeah.
James Jay Edwards (15:39):
Have you guys seen that movie the home with
Pete Davison. No, he, hebasically plays this, this, this
criminal, but he's not really, Imean, he is a criminal, but it's
more like a graffiti artist,kind of a criminal, and he his
community service is to work inthis old age home. And, you
(16:02):
know, there's something notquite right in this old age
home, but it's, I mean, it's,it's a Pete Davison movie. It's,
it's very similar. I mean, notsimilar. It has kind of vibes of
like, Get out or The Substancekind of a thing where, you know,
you know, something weirdlymedical is going on with this
(16:22):
and and it does, where it endsup is actually really crazy
that, that that's kind of the,when you're watching it, you're
like, oh, is this going to gosomewhere? And, yes, it goes
somewhere, but it's, it's, youknow, it's kind of a, kind of a
fun little you know, it's PeteDavidson being Pete Davison,
(16:44):
whichmight be a positive and might be
a negative for some people.
I mean, he's, he's good in it,but I don't think it's much of a
stretch, you know,
Jacob Davidson (16:53):
yeah, that's awesome. And I finally saw
Bugonia. Oh,
James Jay Edwards (16:57):
what'd you think of Bugonia? I really liked
it. Oh,
Jacob Davidson (17:01):
that's so good, yeah, it's funny, because I did
see the movie. It was originallybased off of Save the Green
Planet!, the South Korean filmseveral years ago. So it is
interesting to see how Giorgosand his team translated that.
How close is it to? To that?
Fairly close. I mean, the endingis a bit different, and I feel
like thematically, it is a bitdifferent in that regard, too.
(17:26):
But yeah, no, actually, I can'tI oddly kind of like Yorgos's
version a bit more. I mean, it'smore topical, and I do feel like
it also kind of condensed a lotof the themes and plots of the
original movie. And, I mean,it's just such a good cast
(17:49):
between Jesse Plemons and EmmaStone and and also, I did like
Aidan delvis performance as Donyou know, just say, like, I
think this was his first movie,but, yeah, no, just it did a
good job of kind of condensingfrom the original story. And
(18:11):
it's also funny as hell, whilestill keeping a lot of the
conspiracy theory weirdness ofit. So, yeah, I really dug it.
The
James Jay Edwards (18:29):
conspiracy theory weirdness is what's funny
and it actually,
Jacob Davidson (18:32):
yeah, no, no. I mean, there is definitely a lot
of that too. Yeah.
James Jay Edwards (18:36):
I mean, Jesse Plemons, honestly, best factor
for me this year is a three wayrace between Jesse Plemons and
Bugonia Dwayne Johnson and TheSmashing Machine and Indy the
dog. In Good Boy,
Jacob Davidson (18:51):
yeah, that's tough competition.
James Jay Edwards (18:52):
I'm stumping for it. Best Actor, Indy the
dog. Yeah, no,
Jacob Davidson (18:57):
I think it's just interesting because, like,
the original movie dealt withthat kind of conspiracy
paranoia, you know, like theearly 2000s era, internet and
South Korea culturally. So thisis just kind of the modern
Western kind of conclusion.
Because, yeah, yeah. Just it didfeel very much of the times.
James Jay Edwards (19:26):
Is the original hard to find. I haven't
actually looked for it, but Iwould like to see it is, is it?
Is it available?
Jacob Davidson (19:32):
So, I mean, like, I watched it on the
criterion channel years ago. Imean, I don't know if it's still
on there, but I'm pretty sureit's available, you know, like
for streaming or rentalsomewhere or another.
James Jay Edwards (19:44):
Oh, I mean, I haven't looked so I not actually
sure how difficult it is tofind, but I would like to check
it out.
Jacob Davidson (19:52):
No, the original is worth seeing, especially, too
compared to Bugonia, again,tonally, they do feel a little
different.
James Jay Edwards (20:00):
Yes, I just want to see how different the
ending is, because the ending ofBugonia,
Jacob Davidson (20:06):
oh, yeah, it is.
It is interesting to compare thethe ending from Bugonia to the
original. And that not going tospoil how that goes. But it is
worth comparing, although Iactually kind of like the the
begonia version better.
James Jay Edwards (20:25):
Yeah, I don't, I don't. I don't want to
spoil the ending of Bugonia, buta friend of mine, he said that,
in his view, the movie endedabout 10 minutes before the end,
and when we stopped recording,I'll tell you when he went in
his view it ended, because Idon't want to spoil anything.
But yeah, there. The ending ofBugonia is something else. It's
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pretty crazy. What about, Ithink we've all seen bone Lake,
right?
Jacob Davidson (20:52):
I didn't, I didn't see,
James Jay Edwards (20:53):
Oh, you didn't get around to it, okay?
Correia, you saw bone Lake,though I saw Bone Lake, or, as I
like to put it boner lake. Oneof the posters had the R for the
rating right next to the bones.
So it's bone R lake with goinginto bone Lake. This is another
one of those where this was notthe movie. I thought it was
(21:14):
going to be. I thought that itwas going to be. I thought it
was just going to be anothersexually charged slasher. And it
was not. It had hardcoreBarbarian vibes. And also that
movie from a few years back TheRental. You remember that? Yeah,
it's, it had, I mean, it'sbasically this couple goes to an
(21:38):
Airbnb. It's, it begins justlike Barbarian. This couple goes
this Airbnb, and another coupleshows up who also reserve the
same Airbnb from a differentplatform. And they're just like,
oh, you know what? Let's just,you know, it's a big enough
house. Let's just share it.
We're both going to get completewe're both going to get total
refunds because of this fuck up.
So let's just, you know, makethe best of it, and we'll, you
(22:02):
know, vacation together thisweekend, you know. And the
results are about as predictablybad as you would think,
Jonathan Correia (22:11):
predictably aspects that are not
predictable, actually.
James Jay Edwards (22:16):
No, I'm saying the results are
predictably bad, meaning they'rebad. But no, yeah, this movie is
not very it's not easy topredict at all. You It is
surprising where it goes. And itis, it is pretty crazy. I was
impressed because, again, bonelike you think about it, and
plus all the marketing for it isso horny and sexually charged,
(22:39):
and, yeah, and so you'reliterally thinking, you're like,
Okay, you know, this is a bunchof young people in a cabin
fucking and they're gonna alldie, and that's not what this
movie is at all.
Jonathan Correia (22:51):
Yeah, I was, I was very surprised, because I
remember seeing the first roundof, like, advertising for it,
and I went Bone Lake, and rolledmy eyes real hard, but I gave it
a solid shot. And I got to say,first and foremost, that that
opening few minutes, well,without spoiling it, is a very
strong start. It is a very like,oh, okay, that's where we are,
(23:14):
yeah, and so and so. Even likein the opening, it makes you
think that this is going to beexactly that, a horny slasher of
a bunch of young, attractivefolk, fucking dying. And it
really gets, it makes almost animmediate turn into, I want to
say, like a 90s sleazy thriller,like Wild Things with, like, a
(23:39):
heavy influence of, like, Who'sAfraid of Virginia Woolf, just
like psychosexual thriller whereit's just like, Wait, what the
fuck is going on? What when?
Like, who's a trustworthyNarrator right now, because it
was bouncing around a lot, andit did not forget to be goopy at
the end. Actually, no wet. Itwas a very wet ending in
(23:59):
multiple ways, but I had a lotof fun with it. It's really hard
sometimes to, especially whenyou set up the expectations of
there being a lot of kills andstuff, to have a film that's one
location and four characters andkeep the interest going. And
they had me the entire time. Iwas not bored. I had a lot of
fun with. I'm also a big fan ofthose 90s, like cheesy erotic
(24:22):
thrillers, so the fact that theylike played into that quite a
bit. I Yeah. I mean,
James Jay Edwards (24:31):
even I just thought of, there's also a
little bit of a parallel tospeak no evil, that the Speak no
evil remake that with Jamesmcboy, because it is one of
those deals where, like, there'sso much manipulation going on,
and you're like, Okay, who's onthe level and who's not, you
know, like it, it's prettygreat. But it is not just a a
(24:53):
cabin in the woods slasher atall, and that's what I was
expecting it to be. So, yeah,it. Don't let the name fool you,
and don't let the advertisingfool you. I feel like they're
throwing people off purposelywith that advertising. I think
they want people to go into itlike we did, and they want
people to come out of it like wedid. Like, okay, good. Well,
(25:15):
played. You know, this was notwhat I thought it was gonna be,
because I was impressed. Like,I'm like, dude, a movie called
Bone Lake. No.
Jonathan Correia (25:25):
And even the characters make the joke too.
They're like, bone Lake, yes, soyou mean boner, and they're
like, Oh, shut up, you know? Butit, yeah, it's a lot, it's a lot
of fun that I thought thecharacters were really well
done, is the relationships andhow things play out. I mean, the
whole bit with the ring just hadme going, what the fuck is going
(25:45):
on? Why? Why? What? Like it?
Just it threw me off so hard.
But, yeah, I It's a lot of fun,dude. I get, yeah, it's sleazy
in all the good, all the bestways.
James Jay Edwards (25:59):
And like you said, the bit with the ring. It
like it emotionally charges you.
Yeah, it's like, you you startfeeling things and, you know,
and I don't want to, like, giveanything away as to what emotion
you're feeling, but it is. It'scrazy. But yeah, bone lake,
don't hold the name against it.
And actually do go into itexpecting a cabin in the woods
(26:22):
slasher, because it's more funthat way. I mean, that was part
of the fun for me. Was okay,this is not that movie, which is
great. I liked that.
Jonathan Correia (26:33):
Now, Jay, I know we have a few more scream
fest titles that we've beenwatching, and I'm I hear you.
I'm excited to hear yourthoughts on dooba. Dooba Dooba,
James Jay Edwards (26:44):
dooba, dooba.
Speaking of crazy movies this, Iactually really liked it. I
liked Dooba Dooba a lot, but itis. It's almost like found
footage, because most of itlooks like it's shot from, like,
it looks like it's like veritestyle. It's like it's shot from
(27:05):
like, surveillance camera orlike, like home security camera
kind of a thing. But, yeah, itis.
Jonathan Correia (27:17):
But, but they like the esthetic is that, but
they completely drop, like, thepracticality of where these
fucking cameras have beenplayed, oh yeah, yeah, which
adds to the weird it feels likeyou're watching, like a serial
killer's like death videos orsomething like the whole time.
It's just uncomfortable. And
James Jay Edwards (27:35):
that's kind of thing you and I don't want to
spoil what happens in it, but itkind of makes sense that the
cameras would be in such weirdplaces, but it is disorienting,
because, you know, you'll havelike, there's a scene where the
whole thing is like, this girlis babysitting this this
teenager. It's like a 16 yearold girl that is being babysat.
(27:58):
And there are reasons why, that,you know, that she needs a
sitter. I mean, not, she's notlike, you know, really special
needs, but she does havepsychological issues. And
there'll be issues. There'll bescenes where they're sitting at
like a table, and all of asudden the camera switches and
they're on other it totallybreaks the 180 degree rule and
(28:21):
and it's really disorienting.
But everything about the movieis disorienting, you know, like,
you know they're playing truthor dare, and it's, it's a very
uncomfortable game of Truth orDare. But yeah, Dooba Dooba, it
and again, it goes places. Youknow, by the end of that movie,
you're like, What the hell am Iwatching here? And it's, it's
(28:42):
quick too. It's like, is itlike, 73 minutes? 76 minutes?
Jonathan Correia (28:49):
Yeah, it's not. It's not a long it's not a
long one. It knew when to itknew when to exit.
James Jay Edwards (28:55):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, totally, yeah.
It, but it, you know, which Imean, in my opinion, a movie
that knows when to get out isthe best thing. You know. I
always say that I would ratherwatch 3 80 minute slashers than
one Killers of the Flower Moon.
You know, one, three and a whichI heard the new Avatars, three
and a half hours. Oh, yeah.
(29:17):
Anyway, getting off topic, butno, Dooba Dooba, you haven't
gotten to Dooba Dooba, yet.
Jacob Davidson (29:23):
Jacob, no, I had a chance. Okay,
James Jay Edwards (29:27):
do you should. I'm really curious to
see what
Jonathan Correia (29:29):
you're gonna think of Dooba Dooba, it's so
far up your alley, dude, yeah,because
James Jay Edwards (29:33):
it does have that shot on video, kind of
thing going to but it's, butit's also more modern than just
like, well, the cameras are notmodern, it seems like they made
this with VHS cameras. And it'salso weird, because it's, it
purports to be the film projectof of, you know, like the final
(29:53):
film project of someone, and it,it's, it's like there's other
footage put in. Like thisfamily, for some reason, all of
them are named after presidents.
You know, they're, you know,there's Monroe is the girl, but
then there's Taylor andRoosevelt and all. And they go
to this weird thing wherethey're giving you fun facts
about the presidents, and thenthey'll cut into those and give
(30:16):
you fun facts about JeffreyDahmer. And you're like, What
the fuck is going
Jonathan Correia (30:23):
Yeah, and it's all like, it was edited on,
like, an super early version ofMicrosoft Movie Maker, with,
like, the traditions andeverything
James Jay Edwards (30:32):
and the and the overlaying text is, like, is
totally like, Movie Maker, yeah,yeah. But it is, and everything
makes sense. I mean, nothingabout this movie is random,
although it seems like it is atthe beginning, but yeah, it's,
it's,
Jacob Davidson (30:49):
yeah, no, I will definitely get to it when I can.
Does sound like my jam.
James Jay Edwards (30:53):
It's very, not, I Saw the TV glow. What's
the other We're All Going to theWorld's Fair. It's very, it's,
it's kind of like that kind ofthing. When you're watching it,
you feel like you shouldn't beseeing this, you know. But there
it is for you to see.
Jonathan Correia (31:09):
Great time. I also caught with the ScreamFest,
Damned If You Do. Have you guysheard of this one?
James Jay Edwards (31:16):
No, I heard of it. I haven't gotten to
Jonathan Correia (31:20):
it is. It is a lot of fun. So Damned if You Do
follows a group of teenage kidswho sell their soul to the
devil, and it's like a group offour, three do it. One doesn't.
And the devil they sell theirsouls to is Harvey Gilliam, from
what we do in the shadows, who'svery over the top, like with the
(31:43):
very first scene, I was like,Oh, I don't know if I could
stand him, like, in this modefor this long, but then he won
me over very quickly. Like, itwas just, like, too much right
off the bat, because a lot ofthese titles, I just went right
into it as blind as possible. SoI was like, there's a lot going
on, but he's a lot of fun. Andbasically they sell their souls
to have the life that they want.
And for 25 years, and so attheir 25th high school reunion,
(32:07):
they're supposed to relinquishtheir lives to the devil and
their souls. And so 25 yearslater, when they get back
together, it One of them's likegrew up, went and became a
successful rock star, and she'splayed by Kate Siegel, and you
also have Ginger Gonzaga Sagal,
James Jay Edwards (32:28):
Mike Flanagan's wife, Yep, yeah,
okay,
Jonathan Correia (32:32):
she's star, and I believe one of the
executive producers on it too,and then, but yeah, basically,
They show up at their highschool reunion, and their friend
who didn't take in love let itlike a pretty normal life. They
tried to get her to help them ingetting out of the contract
because she became a lawyer.
Meanwhile, yes, Harvey Gillianis the whole time is just being
(32:54):
a sassy, sassy motherfucker.
It's great. Kate Siegel'scharacter went on to be a rock
star. One of them went on to belike a sellout version of Greta
Gerberg. And then the guy becamebasically Mark Zuckerberg in
like, yeah, he's great. He'splayed by Paulo Costanzo, who
(33:18):
was in like, a bunch of liketeen comedies back in the day,
like Josie and the Pussycats andRoad Trip. If you see a picture
of him, you'll be like, Thatguy. I haven't seen him in a
minute, and he plays like a spoton Zuckerberg, like, in in like,
I'm talking like Congresstestimony, Zuckerberg, where
(33:39):
you're just like things thatcome out of his mouth, you're
like, gross. What a gross dude.
But it's a really fun horrorcomedy. I There's a lot of heart
in it. Everyone's serving cuntin it, like, everyone's looking
great and like having fun. And,you know, there's some really
great kills. Oh, one of thethings they find out is they can
(33:59):
keep their souls if theysacrifice somebody else. So
they're like, trying to pick outwho in their high school reunion
to essentially take their place.
And so it's a lot of like, Oh,this guy was an asshole to me in
high school. Oh, this person didthis to me in high school. And
then, like, meet them. And sothere's like, a lot of like, you
(34:21):
know, back and forth on like,can you damn someone for all
eternity just to save your ownsoul? Type deal going on? It's,
yeah, it's a lot of fun
James Jay Edwards (34:31):
if they were an asshole in high school. Yes,
you can, yeah. So that's prettybig budget. Then, I mean, this
isn't like one of these littleindies that we're seeing from
Jonathan Correia (34:44):
screen. Oh, it's, it's, honestly, it's, it
seems pretty like, tight. Itseemed like it was on a tight
budget. But, like, okay, butlike, every dollar was put on
that screen, there's a reallyfun cameo that I won't spoil,
but. When you see it, you'llknow it. But, yeah, it's, it's,
it was just a fun time andagain, it came out of it was one
(35:07):
of those came out of nowhere.
And I was like, Oh crap. Like, Igot five minutes into it. I was
like, I gotta call Lindsay inhere. She's got to watch this
with me, because Kate Sagalimmediately, just like, stole
the scene that she when shefirst appears, and just doesn't
stop.
James Jay Edwards (35:20):
I've done that before. I've gotten five
minutes into a movie and I'vepaused. I go, Trish, you got to
watch this movie. I'll rewind.
Yeah, totally. I'll watch thefirst five minutes again. As far
as ScreamFest titles go, dideither you guys get to The
Dollmaker? I think it'sEncantador. Is the, it's a, I
want to say it's an Argentinianmovie. No, I didn't get to that
(35:42):
one translates to The Dollmaker.
This movie is, is messed up.
This he is, and the guy who themain guy is, the character's
name is Thomas. He gives anamazing performance. And I think
he actually won Best Actor atthe festival for this. But
basically it's about this, thisguy who he he takes care of his
(36:05):
his aging mother, and then healso collects dolls. And at the
same time in his town, theseteenage girls go start going
missing. And you can kind ofguess where things are going,
but then you can kind of notguess you know, like, you know
he's a suspect and he's not asuspect, then other suspects pop
(36:28):
in and that you know, but youcan't. You can't really prepare
yourself for where this moviegoes. And in true scream fest
fashion, this year. This movieis buckets of blood. This movie
is is really violent and really,you know, everything is on
(36:49):
screen, but everything is on thefloor on screen. I mean, there's
just blood, guts and entrails.
Um, there's one scene that is.
So it's a total shining homage.
I won't even say rip. It's anhomage, and you'll know it when
(37:10):
you see it, if you get to thismovie, and the whole time, I'm
like, they're doing the shining.
They're doing the shining. Andsure enough, it plays out
exactly like the shining, likeeven like, when it gets to the
end of the scene, you're like,Yeah, they did that. Just like,
there was nothing subtle aboutit. The filmmaker knew that
people were gonna know he wasdoing the shining. But yeah, The
(37:32):
Dollmaker and canta and cantadoris what the translation. And
it's Argentinian. I know theyspeak Spanish in it, but I think
it's Argentinian. They
Jonathan Correia (37:44):
had a lot of, like, real, real gnarly, real,
real dirty, dirty titles thisyear at ScreamFest I love it.
That's what
James Jay Edwards (37:51):
we were talking about last time with,
with like, Jimmy and and was itDead By Dawn?
Jonathan Correia (37:57):
Yeah.
James Jay Edwards (37:58):
Real gnarly mother. There's a lot of blood
and guts.
Jonathan Correia (38:02):
Love it, love to see it, yeah? One that's
dirty in a different way wasCogn-Ai-tive. Also at Scream
fest, it's cog, and then whereit they a it's AI, because it's
a whole thing about AI,
James Jay Edwards (38:19):
like a fray eyed,
Jonathan Correia (38:20):
yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah. It's, it's
a tech startup on the verge oflaunching their AI cog called
Cognitive, the new AI chat. Butchat bot with that's supposed to
be like the fastest and mostintelligent AI system. But soon,
you know, they figure out, Ohno, this. All the safety
(38:43):
features have been shut off, andso it's this, like tech The
group behind it, are locked inthis building, and the AI system
is trying to get out. And if youhate AI, this, this film is for
you. It's really because it'sthe entire group of these tech
heads that are, like, fightingagainst this AI group. They're
(39:06):
just kind of the worst of theworst. Like, it's, it's, it's
the people you expect to beworking on these data scraping
models. Some of them have someredeeming qualities, but for the
most part, you're sitting theregoing, God, I can't wait for
this guy to fucking get it. Butit's, it's a lot of fun. They
have Noel Fisher from like the,think he was in the what's,
(39:29):
what's the one of the big familywith William H Macy that show
James Jay Edwards (39:35):
weeds, California. No, no. I know the
movie you're I know the showyou're
Jonathan Correia (39:42):
talking with the Gallagher family. Yeah,
James Jay Edwards (39:44):
I can't. I'm totally blanking on it.
Jacob Davidson (39:47):
I'm looking, I'm looking it up now. Shameless,
Jonathan Correia (39:50):
Shameless, Shameless, yeah,
James Jay Edwards (39:52):
yeah. Fun fact, William H Macy is in The
Running Man, yeah, oh yeah. Hehas a, he has like a, like a one
scene. Scene, scene stealingperformance. I should say
anyway, go on,
Jonathan Correia (40:04):
that's awesome. Well, it's got Noel
Fisher from shameless. And he's,if you know him, from shameless.
He was very dirty in that show.
So it was really funny to seehim all like, cleaned up,
playing Super tech douche bro.
But yeah, I mean, every you knowpeople get their com offense.
They're fighting it. It's veryfuck you to AI, so I appreciated
the hell out of it. And it was aedited by a friend of the
(40:27):
podcast, Patrick Lawrence, whojust had on the other day. So I
don't know when this one'scoming out, but I recommend it.
It's a lot of fun.
James Jay Edwards (40:35):
Cool. Another ScreamFest, actually, the last
of them that I've done for thisround was called Before the
Fall, which, this is a, I thinkthis might be Chilean, and the
it's translated tres Deus, whichis three days. I don't know why
they got Before the Fall, butbasically, this movie is at the
(40:57):
very beginning, you get, there'sthis asteroid coming toward
Earth. It's gonna destroy theEarth in three days. So
everybody is like, basically,you know, some people are just
okay, I'm gonna get this overwith. And they're killing
themselves, and other people arejust trying to live it up. And
you know that people are tryingto get out of town, but fuels at
a, at a, at a premium, and otherpeople are just like, Yeah, I'm
(41:21):
just going to get drunk andlisten to music. Well, the end
of the world is not the mainstory of this movie. It's just
the backdrop, because there is,one of the things that happens
with this end of the world isthere's a prison break, and all
these prisoners get out, andthis one guy, one of the
prisoners, swore revenge on thisfamily, and now that he's out,
(41:43):
he's going to use the last threedays of Earth to to get revenge,
and it's all about the guy whois going to protect the kids
from this prisoner So, and it'sanother one of those. It's like,
kind of like Alone in the Dark,where it's like, you don't know,
you don't know who to trust.
You're like, Okay, wait, is thisguy on the level? Is this girl
(42:03):
on the level? You know you'reyou're like, Okay, who is this?
Is this person really who hesays he is? Or is this because
you don't meet the the prisonerguy until that like, there's a
lot of suspects in it, but it'sand again, it is. It is a
brutally violent movie, bothwith people who just want to end
(42:26):
it because of this asteroid, orwith people getting killed. And
it is. It's pretty disturbedthis. That movie is actually
from, I want to say 2008 butit's like the 4k release that
that ScreamFest had. And that'sright, this. This movie looks
pretty high budget. I mean, itlooks great, so if that's what
(42:48):
they're pushing, you know, welldone. The 4k release does look
and sound great, but the movieas a whole, I had never seen,
and the movie as a whole ispretty disturbing as well.
Jacob Davidson (43:04):
Hell yeah. And Have either of you seen meat
kills?
James Jay Edwards (43:08):
Yeah, meat killed that. That was the, that
was the one that Correia and Iwere not arguing. We were
talking about. Was it meat killsor meat days? Yeah. Oh, right,
yeah, yeah.
Jacob Davidson (43:19):
What did you see it? No, I just gotta. I do want
to get around to it, though,because apparently it is getting
a stateside release, and it hasbeen getting a lot of reviews,
like being really gory anddisturbing.
James Jay Edwards (43:36):
It is, it has, I mean, we talked about it
last screen fest. I don't wantto go too far into it, but into
it, but it's like, basicallyanimal rights activists versus
the slaughterhouse family,
Jonathan Correia (43:49):
right? Yeah,
James Jay Edwards (43:51):
no, no, no, no, it there, yeah, everyone
comes off looking like anasshole, but it kind of has
Hostel vibes in it, you know,it's which, you know, goes to
why it's so disturbing and goryand stuff. But yeah, it I get,
you know, Meat Kills meat days.
It's weird that the translationfor the subtitles was different
than the translation that's onIMDb. But I guess, did you see
(44:12):
like, a press release for itwhere they're calling it Meat
Kills
Jonathan Correia (44:18):
at Scream fest? That's what it was called.
Yeah, okay. And I think that'sthe North American Title for it,
because sometimes they givemovies different
James Jay Edwards (44:25):
titles and different Well, I know when it's
because it's what is it, Veer,slog or something like that. Is
what it it original title is.
And the subtitles on thescreener we got it said
underneath, you know, meet days.
So I'm like, Okay, what? Butokay, I don't know.
Jacob Davidson (44:42):
No, either way.
I do want to try and get to thatone.
James Jay Edwards (44:44):
Yeah, it's you should have a screener for
it. Yeah, in your in your email,because I think you got the same
emails I had so and I'm surethat we'll do another screen
fest. There was just so muchthis year and so much good
stuff. And I need to get to someof the stuff that you guys.
Said, or that, you know,Correia, Damned If You Do. I
need to, I definitely need towatch, Damned If You Do.
Jonathan Correia (45:06):
Oh yeah, no, I highly recommend as well,
especially since, like, a lot ofthese ScreamFest titles we're
talking about, we're talkingabout, like, how gnarly and
nasty and like, just how likethey, like bloody they are,
damned if you do. It's stillvery bloody, but it was a nice
palate cleanse of like beingconstantly uncomfortable or or
(45:29):
just in, in the gnarliness. Youknow, it's, it's a fun time.
James Jay Edwards (45:34):
Well, let's, let's call this one an episode,
and get the heck out of here.
There's another one of thosewhere it's just us talking,
which is fine, after the lastepisode where there were five
people talking, yeah, six, ifyou count me, who didn't do much
talking. But, uh, yeah, we'llget back to Correia. Is, is his
gears are turning. He's got somecool guests that he's lining up.
(45:58):
It's just a matter ofscheduling. So you'll get, if
you like the guests, you'll getthem
Jonathan Correia (46:04):
scheduling guests for podcasts is like
trying to schedule a D and Dsession, it's next to impossible
to get schedules without going
Jacob Davidson (46:12):
and going and going
James Jay Edwards (46:14):
or, like, scheduling a fantasy football
draft,
Jonathan Correia (46:16):
which is, which is D and D for sports
nerds.
Unknown (46:19):
It totally is DND for sports nerds. So let's let on
that. Let's get out of here. Soour theme song is by restless
spirit, so go check them out.
And our artwork is by ChrisFisher, so go check him out. You
can check us out on all thesocials, under eye on horror,
or@ihorror.com which is the sitewe all call home. And we will
see you in a little bit withmore scream Fest and more other
(46:43):
movies and, you know, justgeneral banter and, yeah, see in
a couple weeks. So for me, JamesJay Edwards,
Jacob Davidson (46:53):
I'm Jacob Davison
Jonathan Correia (46:54):
And I'm Jonathan Correia.
James Jay Edwards (46:55):
Keep your eye on horror.
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