June Gloom Review

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James Jay Edwards (00:25):
Welcome to Eye On Horror, the official
podcast of ihorroror.com this isepisode 147 otherwise known as
season eight. Episode Seven. I'myour host, James Jay Edwards,
and with me, as always, is yourother host. Jacob Davison, how
you doing? Jacob? Doing

Jacob Davidson (00:40):
good, just having trouble waking up with
the June gloom. It's stillpretty cloudy out.

Yeah, it's a little, I mean, it's going to
burn off. And has it been hot upthere for you guys? Yeah, it was
pretty warm. Yeah, it's been,it's been really hot down here.
Also with us, as always, is yourother other host, Jon Correia,
who I think wants to talk aboutthe

Jonathan Correia (01:00):
heat? Yeah, well, you gotta remember, I'm in
the valley, and Jacob's on theother side of the hill, closer
to the water, so it's just like,I'm always, like, five to 10
degrees hotter than where he is.
That's quite a difference. Yeah,it's, it's been fun, that's for
certain. I don't know why I'mwearing a long sleeve right now.

(01:20):
Oh, wait, yes, I do. CouldPraise be to Saint Maud.

Oh, geez, okay, it and it is still like,
like Jacob said, there's stillJon gloom right now. So it's not
that hot. So, all right, youknow, I joked about us becoming
a monthly podcast. That wasn't aprophecy. That was a joke, but
here we are

work schedules. Man,

yep, you know life. Life happens. The first
thing that I want to talk about,I don't know if either, do
either you guys get to advancedscreenings of 28 Years Later?

Nah. I don't think there really were any
advanced screenings near me, orat least I didn't get access to
them.

You might be right, because our screening was
press only, so they might not bedoing promo advances, but I saw

I almost did, but it was downtown, and it's
it.
not the best time to be going todowntown. LA, oh, yeah, right
now. So,

yeah, it, yeah, exactly. Okay. So 20 and
by the time it'll be intheaters, by the time this
posts, so people will haveprobably seen it. But here's the
28 Years Later to me, it was twothirds of a good movie, because
here's the setup for it. It'sobviously 28 Years Later, and
the British Isles have beencompletely quarantined,

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basically to keep the rage virusoff the mainland. They've just
quarantined the British Isles,and it's working. But all of the
survivors and the people whoaren't infected, they just leave
them on the island to to fendfor themselves. They don't let
them on the mainland, andanybody who sets foot on the
island has to stay there. Sothere is this little island that

(03:05):
that is only connected it is hasnot been infected, because it's
only connected to the mainlandby the mainland British Isles,
by this causeway that's onlyaccessible at low tide, so it's
easily defensible, but thepeople there have to go across
to the mainland to forage andget supplies and stuff every so
often, and it's like a rite ofpassage for the kids on this

(03:28):
thing that they go over to thisisland. So that's the setup, and
there is kind of like a WickerManny folk horror thing to it,
because the people on thisisland, they're not really
primitive, but, I mean, it is 28years, you know, after and, you
know, they they defend theirarea with, like, bows and arrows
and stuff. So there's kind of alittle bit of like a, like a

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cult folk horror thing to it.
But when they go over to themainland, one of the kids who's
doing his rite of passage, hefinds out that there's a doctor
over there that might be able tohelp his sick mom. So of course,
you know, it becomes a journeymovie, and it's really good
until the third act. And I don'twant to spoil anything about
third act, but it just, italmost like, it's almost like

(04:14):
they're working from a differentscript. It's like all the rules
change. And also the biggest,one of the biggest problems, is
the the third act, the thedoctor character, they introduce
him way too late. And it's RalphFienes, which, if you've got
Ralph fines in your movie, usehim, you know, you know, the
first two acts has a lot of that28 days later. Stuff. You know,

(04:37):
it's exciting. The zombies are,well, some of them run and some
of them crawl. See, that'sanother thing. It seems like
this. Don't

use the Zed word. Well, these

ones actually might be zombies. That's the
that's the funny. I actually hada discussion with a friend of
mine who has actually written abook about. Zombie movies. And
I, you know, we were talkingbefore the screening about,
we're like, Hey, do you considerthese zombies? And he said, Yes.
And I said no. And then after wewatched the movie, I'm like, I

(05:12):
think these are zombies,although they still do call them
the infected, but these onesare, they're, they're definitely
more zombie like. But anyway,it's, it's better than 28 weeks
later, I think, but it, but it'sno 28 days later, so it's
somewhere in the middle. I mean,it is cool to have Alex Garland
and Danny Boyle back. And DannyBoyle kind of does some Rob

(05:32):
Zombie stuff with the editing,where, like, they'll show like,
the they'll show the people fromthis community, you know,
shooting arrows, and thenthey'll cut to, like a scene
from, like an old, like, 50s or60s movie where they're shooting
bows near, you know, like a,like a period piece, like a King
Arthur kind of a thing wherethey're shooting arrows and, you
know, without the abrasivescore, they do some, some Rob

(05:54):
Zombie stuff. But it's a, it'sworth seeing. I mean, I give it
a solid B. It would have been anA if they had pulled off the
third a little better. But itdoes set up a sequel. The bone
temple, right? Yes. And I guessthere are two sequels planned
and the first one, so I knowwhere you're I know what you're

(06:14):
looking at. First

was Nia DiCosta, and it's already shot,
baby. Is it shot already? Yep,they already shot the second
one. But it depends on how wellthis one and that one does if
they get to finish the thirdtrailer, the third one, yeah,

that's, that's great, that it's, I'm
excited that it's Nia DiCosta,because, I mean, yeah, yeah, cuz
I don't think she's made a badmovie, yeah, but, um, and, and
it does leave it open for asequel. In fact, it leaves it
open for kind of a RAD sequel,actually, because, like,
literally, right before thecredits roll, stuff happens, and

(06:50):
you're like,

BMX bikes?

No, you know what? No, not BMX bikes, but you
are not far off, and you'll,you'll know when you see it,
what happens? Sorry. Again, itchanges the rules.

Sorry, you said it opens it up for a RAD
sequel. It's like, find me asequel to RAD. Fuck yeah.

Okay, so Red's in the post apocalypse using the
BMX bikes to get away from theinfected.

I don't think you understand how excited I'm

guessing both you are gonna see it, so you'll
see what, what I mean. But yeah,again, like, literally, right
before the credits roll, itchanges things up completely
differently. And I think it'sgoing to go in a fun direction,
which is weird to say, about a28 you know, days weeks, years
later movie to say it's fun, butI think it's going to get fun,

(07:38):
so you guys will see. Butanyway, yeah, I think it'll do
well enough to warrant bothsequels. Because, again, you
know, it's, it's not a badmovie. And I think that people
are gonna go see it, um,especially because they've been
waiting so long for it.

We've been teased for about months later,
for years.

What I was gonna say, we've been teased
for, like, it hasn't been quite8-28, years. It's been like,
what, 18, I think, since 28weeks later. But yeah, anyways,

Well, to flip it go in a different direction.
it's awesome. By the time thisthis post, everyone will
probably have seen it. So let usknow what you thought.
Have you guys seen Pee Wee asHimself.

No, I keep, I keep meaning to watch it. It's,

it's not particularly horror. So I'll
give the quick. It's a two partDocu, documentary about Paul
Rubens, who famously is Pee WeeHerman. And it's, it's very
it's, it's phenomenal,especially if you grew up on Pee
Wee. If you grew up watchingPaul Rubens, it's it's so good.
The first one goes through hisearly years in, like, as in

(08:49):
childhood and art school, allthrough the creation of Pee Wee,
which started off as like animprov character that, like,
kept getting developed andstuff. And the second half goes
through the second half of hislife, including the incident in
the Fallout. They do cover hisPSA, the thrill, the the thrill

(09:12):
can kill where Pee Wee Hermansays, don't do meth. It's it's
absolutely phenomenal. Theyfilmed a lot of interviews with
him before he passed. He agreedto do it, and he's a very
interesting person. Paul Rubenshimself because he went through

(09:33):
that experience of essentiallybeing outed as gay, because the
whole case against him was thatthey someone reported that he
had CP in his house, but hedidn't, but what he did have was
an extensive library of like gayliterature and pornography. But.

(09:59):
And they basically charged himfor because they didn't want to
leave empty handed. They chargedhim for obsidian, owning
obscenities, and

honestly, the stuff he owned, where I get so
pissed off when people you knowsay that he's had child porn,
because anybody who owns a copyof Nirvana's Never mind probably
has worse CP than Pee Wee had inhis collection, or that, that
one blind faith album with thewith the underage girl on the

(10:31):
cover. It's like,

yeah, no. Paul Rubens had muscle man magazines
from the 1950s and stuff likethat, like

and part of the problem is he pled guilty
just to kind of get it to goaway. And the reason behind that
is, I think he just wanted to goaway because he was already on
the RSO list from the theaterincident, so his life wasn't
going to change from that. So hepled guilty, and I think it was
a fine and probation. I don'teven think he didn't need jail,

(11:01):
so that, in a lot of people'sminds, they're like, Oh, he's a
he's a pedophile, because heplayed well,

but again, he pled guilty to essentially being
an adult man, owning adultmagazines. That's what it was.
Because they they reduced thecharge, but no one at that time
reported the after, and also thetheater incident. I mean, come
on, it's, it was, it was, it wasan adult theater. Like, I Yeah.

(11:30):
I

mean, they carry, people are saying, Oh,
they carry boxes and boxes ofporn out of his house. It's
like, yeah. But when they wentthrough it, they found, like,
three images from vintageerotica that they deemed were
under age. You know? Well, Idon't know if they were or not,
but it's like, but Yeah,honestly, any like I said,

(11:52):
anybody who owns a copy of Nevermind. You know, hey, lock your
doors. Anyone

who owns Girls Gone Wild owns child
pornography, because so many ofthose women were not verified
and were under the influence. Solike, Yeah,

but also, I just think the police in general were
railroading Paul Rubens becausethey wanted to get a celebrity
down. Well,

yeah, that's, that's like, what Correia was
saying. They didn't want toleave empty handed. They, you
know, they had this warrant andthey didn't find anything, but,
yeah, so they looked harder.
But, oh, yeah,

outside of that, it's a very beautiful, I
mean, outside of the rage thatwill get inside of you over how
cops handle situations,especially with people who are
extremely private about theirsexuality, it's very beautiful.
It's very touching. Paul Rubensis very kind of standoffish with
the director. There's oftentimes where he's like, Are you

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the one directing this? Or am I?
What am I telling you everythingand all this stuff. He's kind of
a he comes off like he's tryingto be an untrustworthy narrator,
but, like, it's really great.
And seeing his his art work whenhe was young, of like, what he
was doing when he was like,before he got into improv, was

(13:13):
insane. There's like, onepicture, I swear to God, he
looked exactly like a youngJames Spader. And I was like,
Whoa, young Paul Rubens couldget it damn dude, but yeah, Pee
Wee as himself, is phenomenal,and it's making me want to
revisit the show and all that.
I'm sure they they glossed oversome of the behind the scenes
drama that happened with that,and because there was famously,

(13:35):
a lot of like, people talkingabout ownership, who helped
create the characters and andthe show and credit and things
of that nature. But that'salmost expected when, when
you're making a portrait ofsomeone you know,

while we're talking about, um, not quite,
horror documentaries, um, I amkind of fascinated by these
music festival documentaries,like the fire festival and
Woodstock 99 and there's a newone train wreck, the AstroWorld
tragedy on Netflix, which, thisis the same documentary series
as the Woodstock 99 one train,the train wreck

series, and

which, which concert was AstroWorld.
AstroWorld was the Travis Scottone, where I think 10 people
died because it was verymismanaged. And the thing is,
okay, and it goes into this. Andthe thing is, and they don't
really paint Travis Scott as thebad guy, but they do show
incidents that happened beforeon, you know, on his watch, you

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know, like at his shows, andthings that he's done. But, um,
this whole festival was doomedfrom the start, because there's
one stage that was only TravisScott for this whole, you know,
two day festival, and the otherartists all performed on other
stages. So at a certain time,they opened the Travis Scott
stage and for people to run inand get their spot. And the

(14:58):
thing is, they opened it fromthis. Side, and there were all
of these. They call them, likesafety trenches, where there's
like barricades where they couldpull people out if they needed
it. But this created littledeath trap pockets in the
audience, and that's wherebecause the people came in from
the side and they run, basicallyone side filled up and the other

(15:21):
side was safe. So by the timeTravis Scott went on stage, and
people are, like, rushing, andthe way they described the
crowd, I've been in pits likethat where, like, you could,
like, pick your feet up andyou're still moving with the
crowd. You know, like, just,you're you're part of a hole,
you're almost, like, in theocean, kind of a thing. I never

(15:41):
fell down in one which is whatsome of these people did, and
they ended up getting crushedand they couldn't breathe and
stuff. But I definitely couldrelate to the feeling of almost
helplessness, you know, becauseyou're getting, you know, pushed
around, you have no control overwhere you're going. And, you
know, part of it, they interviewone of the guys who um, his,
his, his friend died at thething, but he's one of the guys

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you might have remember when ithappened, they showed a couple
of people getting climbing up onstage near one of the cameramen,
yelling at the cameraman to sayinto his headset, hey, people
are dying. Get, you know, stopthe show. Stop the show. They
interview one of the guys thatwas doing that, and they also
interview like Live Nationpeople. And they interviewed a
woman who was a photographer forLive Nation who she even says,

(16:26):
at the beginning, she says, youknow, talking about this may end
my career with Live Nation. Youknow, she'll this. This is I
this. I may get blackballed fordoing this documentary. Because
there were several times when,and there is a point where
Travis Scott actually stops theshow, and he's always, everybody
cool? Is everybody cool? Youknow, give everybody back up.
Give everybody space, you know,because he sees what's

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happening. I don't think he knewit was as bad as it was. I think
he might have seen one personhaving trouble, yeah. But, you
know, again, there were 10people that died at this
festival. But it's really kindof interesting. Live Nation
totally dropped the ball on it.
They didn't set it up well. Andyou know, the lawsuits were
against Live Nation, the Astroworld people and Travis Scott,

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and you know, they all settled.
And I don't know what percentagewent to who, but it was just a
messed up situation there.

Oh, no, Live Nation. Live nations, the
villain who could have seen that

coming? They absolutely are, because Live
Nation could, like, there's aguy they interview, one of the
EMTs who was, he's a paramedic,and he was just working, like,
kind of, like, like, a side job.
He's all, you know, this isgoing to be great. I'm going to
cruise around. I'm going to hearsome to hear some music, you

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know, maybe have to give somepeople some hydration. And he
ended up having to, like, fullon CPR to keep these people
alive until the ambulances gotthere. I mean, he Yikes. It was,
yeah. And one of the people wasa, one of the people they
interviewed was a nursingstudent who she was going there
to celebrate having passed herboards, and she ended up saving
a guy's life. And they reunitethem, and they're, of course,
they're like, Oh, we're linkedfor life, you know, because of
this AstroWorld thing, you know,I almost died and you saved me.

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It's, it's nuts. But anyway,it's, uh, I, I'm kind of
fascinated by these concert gonewrong. Thing, your festival gone
wrong, I should say. And thisone, this one might have been
more horrific than Woodstock 99because Woodstock 99 had a lot
more like just total frat boydisrespect an essay. But this

(18:34):
one, yeah, this one kind ofupset me more because I think I
related to it more, because I'vebeen in situations like that
that just haven't been pushedover the edge, you know. But
I've been in, you know, crowdswhere you literally, you're at
the will of the of the whole,you know,

it's like when I got water boarded at Gwar. Oh,

I mean, it's Gwar, so

that's gonna be the next train wreck. Train
wreck, waterboarded at GwarWell, I

was just wearing a K 95 mask, and they
hit me in the face with theblood and guts thing for like, a
solid 30 seconds. And I can,like, it all collected to the
mask, and I couldn't try to takeit off. Yeah,

yeah. This is why, when I went to see Gwar, I
stood back from the blood zone.
What? Where's

the fun in that I was in it, man, I bought
a white t

shirt. I was gonna say, do you wear your
white t shirt?

Spray painted Gwar on it. It's my little
homemade guar. Sure, hell

yeah. Anyway, on kind of again. More horror
adjecent stuff. Who else sawMike Flanagan's new Stephen King
adaptation, the Life of Chuck?
Oh, yeah.

Who who saw it with their parents? Because I'm
seeing everyone is seeing itwith, like, their mom or dad.
Because I saw it with my mom.

Wow, yeah. No, I just saw it with some friends.
But still, I mean, it's such apowerful. Film, and it's kind of
hard to explain, or, you know,describe to but it is. It is the
title. It's about the life ofChuck, just in a very poetic and
kind of roundabout

way. Here's here's the question, how long is
it?

110 minutes, and

it doesn't really feel like it,

well, that's not bad at all. Actually. That's
an hour 40, okay. Hour 50, Oh,yeah. Hour 50, yeah.

I will say this Life of Chuck is very much
a Mike Flanagan project, justwithout the horror. Like it's,
it's, it's the, it's the, it'sthe long monologs, it's the Carl
Sagan references. It's the greatneedle drops, it's, it's
everything that's in thehaunting of and other works just

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there's no jump

scares, yeah, although I would still say it's
got some horror elements to it,because there is air the
supernatural, and also deals alot with existential crises,
which in itself, is prettyhorrifying, especially in our
modern times and crises.

Yet that opening third was like intense
of like, just feeling,

yeah, the general sense of dread, I think
we all feel, but yeah, no,although at the at the same
time, though, it is quiteuplifting, and does have a
rather optimistic view of thehuman condition. And what a
cast. Because, I mean, it's gota lot of the regulars from
Flanagan stuff, like JacobTrembley and Karen Gillen and,

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of course, Katie Kate Siegel isin it too. But then you got Tom
Hiddleston as Chuck, and you'vegot Nick Offerman as the
narrator. And, yeah, no, it justvery like every scene, like it's
never a dull moment, like itjust really hooks you, no matter
how benign, or, you know, likeminimal it seems like one of my

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favorite bits is the teacherplayed by Chiwetel edger. I can
never say that name, yeah, it'sYeah, but yeah, he's talking
with David Dallas motion aboutkind of the current crisis of
things, and they're laughingabout how Pornhub is down.

Yeah, that got a lot of laughs in my theater.
Would

you guys say that Mike Flanagan is the new
Mick Garris? I mean, do youthink that he is the guy that
Stephen King trusts with hismaterial now?

Yeah. I mean, in that sense, I suppose. But also,
you know, just Mike Flanagan'sMike Flanagan Mike Flanagan and
Mick Garris is Mick

Garris? Well, yeah, but I'm just saying, you
know, it for a while, MickGarris was getting all of the,
you know, all the Stephen Kingstuff, and now I guess Flanagan
has been getting it. The reasonI asked how long it was is
because Mike Flanagan has beendoing mini series, and Stephen
King is not known to be brief.

Well, the thing of it is, though, is that this
is based off of a short story.
So there's only so much youcould, you know, add to that. I
mean, I haven't read that story,but I can imagine, you know,
translating a short story fromStephen King into a feature film
is considerably easier thantrying to cram a novel, Stephen
King story into a feature, yeah,

with the and for me, one of the big first of
all, that first third of themovie is just so insanely good
and filled with dread, like Idon't want to spoil anything,
but it's amazing. But outside ofthat, the one of the big
standout points is and they hintat it in the trailers. There's a
dance sequence between TomHiddleston and Annalise basso,
who is a returning Flanaganactress. She was in Oculus and

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Ouija Origin of Evil. She wasone of the child actors in that
so she's all grown up. And theyhad a dance sequence, and it was
just like, you're watching it,it's just like, wow. I Yeah,
never, I don't know if we'veseen a dance sequence in a
Flanagan movie, but like, it wasshot and choreographed and just
so well. And like, it wasn'tjust, you know, a dance sequence

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for the sake of a dancesequence. There was, like, a
story being told within it andstuff. And it's phenomenal. So

on a scale of one to Oscar Isaac and Ex
Machina, where would you putthat dance sequence?

No, they're different. They're two
different, two different sports.
Man, like it was, it was morein, I would say it was closer
to, like a Gene Kelly type,really, of like dance sequence,
maybe not like as it's, I mean,it's not Gene Kelly doing his
twirl, his famous twirl and tapdancing and stuff. But, I mean,
like on, like feeling and stuff.

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It was like watching, like asinging of the rain, or America,
American in Paris, type. Theyhad sequence. It was phenomenal.
All right,

okay, keep.
Be this may be as horror as wehave been so far this episode,
well, except for 28 years later.
Have either you guys seen TheCoffee Table?

No, but I heard of it. This

movie is fucked up, very look, I cussed
before Correia. I think on

this movie,

this movie is messed up. And I don't even want
to really go into it, becausethere's what makes it fucked up
is, is I was glad that I didn'tknow that was coming up when it
happened. But basically, thesetup is this couple, they're
furnishing their new apartmentor their new house, and the guy

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wants this coffee table that'slike these two, you know, Tigers
with a glass top, and the womanhates it, and the guy loves it.
And the guy, you know, the guy,wins, and he they, they let him
get this coffee table, and hegets it home, and and shit
happens. It's not, it's notsupernatural, it's just, it's

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just fucked up. And, like Isaid, I can't even talk about
it, but there's something thathappens with this coffee table
and with this family, and itjust, it's one of those things.
It's like, you're on theescalator that you can't get off
and, you know, and as it'sgoing, you're like, all your
stop, stop, come on. This. Can'tgo any further. Stop, stop. Oh,

(26:22):
man, it is. It's messed up. Itit is. It's on. Shudder. So
that's your guy's homework.
Watch the coffee table,

all right? And it's a Spanish film, right? Yes,

it is, yeah, so you will have to read some
yes,subtitles, but you know, well,

I just meant that it's from Spain, right?

Yes, yeah, it is. But yeah, it's a I it is.
It'll ruin your day.

Well, if you want to ruin your day, shudder,
double feature, I highlyrecommend The Ugly Stepsister,
which, oh yeah, I think just hitShudder. And I just watched it
last night. And I don't say thislightly, where I where I tell
people that like this movieupset my stomach. There's two

(27:08):
other movies I can think of thathave done that it was Dead Alive
the first time, or the pus sceneand Imprint the river scene, if
you know what I'm talking about,yeah, no, do you know what
you're talking about, Imprintmade me miss class. I watched it
before class one day, and I waslike, I feel violently sick
after that scene. UglyStepsister killed on my appetite

(27:30):
last night. It's from Norway,and it actually features Ane
Dahl Torp who was in the firstDead Snow and also the first two
Wave movies. So you know alreadyI'm in it, I'm in it, and it's
basically Cinderella from one ofthe ugly stepsisters

(27:52):
perspective. And I one letterboxreview said it's the substance,
but make it bigger. 10 and,almost there's a lot of body
horror in it, but basically thisthe ugly stepsister, the, you
know, the her mom marriesCinderella's father, and then

(28:12):
the father almost immediatelydies, and they find out that
neither family had any money,and so a lot is put on her and
Cinderella to marry the princeat the ball. And so they get
invited to the mall to the ball,and the ugly stepsister goes
through, I don't know what year,what? What decade was it? 1500

(28:34):
1600s or whatever. She goesthrough plastic surgery like
insane, and it's all old school.
So, like, they go to fix hernose, because on the on the
cover, you are on one of theposters you see she's wearing
like this, like nose brace. It'sgold. And the director does
this, like, really amazing thingon some of the grossest scenes
where they, they have it playout in a wide and you just sit

(28:56):
there and it's, and it's alwaysa bit where someone's holding
like a hammer overhead, and theyhold it for minutes, you're just
like,

you're just like, that's, I was gonna say,
old school plastic surgery, asin, breaking the bones with a
hammer, yeah,

and then bracing like, no anesthetic, no
anesthetic. Oh, dude, thatdoctor, he's French, and he just
goes on, duh. And I justimmediately am like, no, no, no.
There's also, I don't know, tospoil it, but she, she does a
weight reducing thing thatcomes. She eats a tapeworm to

(29:38):
lose weight. And she, let's putit this way, she has it inside
of her for far too long. And thethere's a sequence with that
tape where that that made menearly puke. It is, but outside
of the, I mean, outside of thegross factory, because, like,
it's, it's a few scenes. It'sreally well done. I really like

(29:58):
how the stepsister is theprotagonist of the story, but
they don't quite make Cinderellathe villain, nor the stepmother.
Like, everyone has their ownmotivations, they're all very
fleshed out, like

it's really Shades of Gray,

yeah. Like the reason why the step family, or
IE, the stepmom and stepsisterare kind of mean to Cinderella,
it's that again, it's soimportant for these girls to
marry rich in order to keep thefamilies going, because they
have no they can't do anythingelse but be married off. And
Cinderella is caught with withthe stable boy. And so they kind

(30:35):
of are like, well, you justfucked everything, because the
prince only wants a virgin. Andso that's when they start, you
know, making her do houseworkand that she doesn't get, get
it, get to go to the ball, butshe goes to the ball anyways.
And there's just, like, allthese, like, really insane
scenes about just like, what onedoes to the female body to get

(30:56):
to that ideal look and stuff.
There's a very if you've seenDario Argentos Opera, you'll
appreciate one of the scenes inthe movie famously. But yeah,
it's really well shot. Whatsuper well acted,
and the director definitely haslike a flare for some really

(31:20):
beautiful camera work, like theDP on this killed it. It's not a
boring movie at all. Likeeverything just flows.
Everything keeps going. And,yeah, it was a fun, very gross
watch. I mean, yeah.

And it is interesting that it's a Nordic
adaptation, and draws so heavilyfrom the original kind of grims
fairy tale version, which itselfwas pretty brutal and gory, you
know, the lot of foot trauma,but, yeah, no, I actually was
lucky enough to see it at Alamoa while back. And I'm glad more

(31:56):
people are discovering it,because I think the problem was,
is that a lot of people thoughtit was one of those kind of
public domain horror cash inswhere they're like, oh, it's
based off of public domain fairytale. But no, no, no, this is
like, next level. Is veryintelligent, but also
ridiculously gross with the bodyhorror and she had, jeez, yeah,

no, ugly stepsister. There's your shadow
Shudder double feature, that andcoffee table, and

if I can make it a shudder, triple feature, Oh,
no. Okay, it's got this be moreof a pick me up. But have you,
either of you seen They Call HerDeath,

no, but you talked about it last time about
it? Yeah, yeah, it's

now on. Shudder, okay, um, and yeah, I talked a
bit about before, but I stillhighly recommend it, where it's
basically this kind of lowbudget throwback to Spaghetti
Westerns from like the 70s,where it's got a great revenge
story, and it's got got a goodcast, and it has some

(32:59):
particularly brutal Gore,especially one scene where the
heroine has got a bad guy by theballs, literally. And, yeah, no,
but it, it is a lot of fun. And,yeah, they added it to shudder.
So I'd recommend checking it outif you can.

There's your pick. You pick me up after,
after the coffee table and theugly stepsister. So you, you've
got a an Eye On Horror approvedtriple feature for shudder. When
are we going to get sponsored byshudder? I think we all pay,
don't

we? Yeah, we do, which, by the way, also, I
don't know if I if this had beenknown before, but I got really
excited. Shudder, has Pontypool,I don't know. Yeah, that's a
good one. I don't know how longthey've had it, but I've been
meaning I've been wanting torevisit that one for a while,
and it hasn't been on anythingstreaming, and the blu ray is
insanely priced, so I got realexcited seeing that. So yeah,

(33:58):
quadruple feature, fuckingfeatures, I don't know.

And back on horror, this month is pretty
noteworthy, June, because thiswas our last Friday, the 13th of
the year. And to celebrate, Iwent to the new Beverly, and
actually went to a Friday the13th double feature of two of, I
think, the lesser acknowledgedentries in the franchise. Friday

(34:24):
the 13th part seven, the newblood and Friday 13th Part
Eight, Jason takes Manhattan.
Nice, yeah. And personally, Ithink Friday 13 part seven may
be my, my favorite of thefranchise, just because of how
out there it is, you know, beingdirected and with effects by the
famous Jon Carl beaker, who gaveus ghoulies, and I think, did
one of the greatest JasonVoorhees designs of the entire

(34:49):
franchise, masked and unmasked.
Because, you know, like at thispoint, Jason's been through it
so much and been so waterloggedthat when he's out of the water,
he's got like half the Maskbroke off, so you can see he's
got this giant broken jaw, andhe's all rotting and gross. And

seven is Jason versus Carrie, right?

Yes, exactly.
And cool, funny enough. At thescreening, went to the new biv.
They had the writer, DarrellHaney with the the male lead,
Kevin spirits this and, youknow, it was interesting hearing
them talking about the thedevelopment and production of
the film, particularly fromDarrell Haney, because

(35:31):
apparently the Jason versusCarrie thing was kind of a last
minute thing. Like, he like, itwas interesting. They said
originally, one of their bigpitches was that this evil land
developer is building high risecondos on the shores of Crystal
Lake, and that's what activatesJason. And it was kind of an
environmental thing, and thestudio wasn't really going for

(35:55):
it. So he said, you know,they're trying to do Jason
versus Freddy, but that's notworking out. So how about we
have Jason versus Gary? And theyloved it, and that's how we got
the Friday 13 part seven that wedid with lar Park Lincoln as
Tina, who sadly passed away thisyear.

I now I want to see Jason versus the condo
developers.

Oh, who does it?
That sounds like a great movie.

Let's Yeah, like we haven't enough already.
Let's step away from horror fora second and go to action.
Because there's a couple moviesthat I've seen that I don't want
to spend too much time on, just,I don't want to chime in on.
Have either you seen Ballerina?
Not yet. Ballerina is, it's fromthe world of

John Wick. Oh yeah, spin off.

Yeah, it is.
And, I mean, it's, it's good,it's a good act. I mean, the
fight scenes are amazing, youknow, as you would expect to be,
I think the Chad Stahelski wentin and re shot some of the, some
of the fight scenes, becausethey, they have more of a stunt
man's eye to them than than yourtypical action movie, I should
say. But um, it is basicallyabout a girl who is in the the

(37:01):
same family that brought up JohnWick. You know, it's like a an
assassin family, and her fatherwas killed, and on one of her
assignments, she sees thisbranding. It's like a it's like

(37:21):
a scar on the wrist. And soshe's like, Okay, this is the
tribe that killed my dad. So shegoes on, like, Revenge Mode. And
it's Anna de armas, who she,she's okay in it. She, I think
she takes the emotionlessassassin part a little too far,
because she comes off as alittle wooden. And I also don't

(37:42):
think that they took fulladvantage of the John Wick
world. You know, it's, it's alittle one note in the world,
but it is exciting. It's gotgreat fight scenes, and it does
go places. That is, I mean, inretrospect, it's pretty
predictable, but at the time, Iwas like, oh, that's kind of
clever. You know, one of thosekind of deals. But you know, if

(38:03):
you like the John Wick movies,you'll probably it has the same
humor of of the John like, atone point, she's talking to this
guy who's going to sell herweapons, and he finds out what
she's going to do, and he goes,Can I be frank? And his name tag
says Frank, because his name isFrank is just kind of, you know,
one of those visual gags thatyou get from the John wick

(38:26):
movies. But also another actionmovie that actually does not
come out until the 27th so it itwon't come out until after this
posts, but embargo is lifted, soI'm going to talk about it.

F1 the movie how dad

is, dude, it's pretty Dad, it is super.
Dad,

it eats the turkey deli on the way home from
the grocery store. Dad,

this, this, to me, it was kind of a tale of
two movies, because I kind ofcompare it to any given Sunday
in that when they're playingfootball in Any Given Sunday.
It's totally exciting, and I'mloving it. But then when they go
to that off field soap operastuff, it just kind of loses
steam. This is kind of likethat, although the off track
stuff, first of all, the ontrack stuff, is amazing. It's

(39:14):
incredible. The the way thatit's shot, it's just adrenaline
pumping, you know, exhilarating.
You know, you're there in thecar and in the pit with them. I
mean, it's just, it's amazinglyshot. But the off track stuff,
some of it is kind of exciting,because basically what it is is
that Brad Pitt plays this kindof washed up, but still talented
and troubled race car driver,and Javier Bardem. Javier Bardem

(39:36):
comes to him, as he's like anold teammate of his from like 30
years ago, and says, Hey, youknow, maybe not 30 years but
like from a long time ago. Andsays, hey, you know, I own this
Grand Prix team, and we suck. Weneed to turn this around. I need
a driver. So he comes up and heand he's already got another
driver. So Brad. Its charactercoming up, kind of, there's a

(40:00):
rivalry between the drivers, andthen they're constantly trying
to improve the car. And there'sthis thing that if they don't,
if they don't rise in therankings, they're going to make
Javier Bardems characters sellthe team. So it you know,
there's a lot of soap operastuff, and some of that is
engaging, and some of it isn't.

(40:21):
And I'll tell you, this is alittle bit of a spoiler. But
what really pissed me off aboutit the lead tech of the car
development side is played byCarrie Condon, and she's this,
you know, super capable, superintelligent woman who designed
this car, and it's all great.
And then this is where the movielost me. They hook her up with
Brad Pitt. And I'm like, did youreally have to make her a love

(40:42):
interest? I mean, I know youhave Brad Pitt in your movie,
and he's got to kiss someone,but that just kind of that kind
of lost it for me. But there isa female pit crew, woman who,
thankfully, they didn't hook herup with the other driver, which
I thought was going to happen.
But what surprised me most aboutf1 is I thought it was just

(41:04):
going to be about, you know,winning races and driving fast.
Brad Pitt's character, he's allabout winning, but it's also
causing chaos on the track. So alot of the stuff that he does is
to help the other driver win,and he causes like chaos, and
some of it is barely within therules. Like, they keep asking,
you know, like, after the races,you're gonna get fined for that,

(41:26):
he's all, am I what rule did Ibreak? You know? And like,
there's stuff that he does thatbasically to help his teammate
that isn't quite illegal, but itdidn't make him any friends. So
it's all about chaos on thetrack. And I like that. I'm glad
that it wasn't just about pedalto the metal. Let's drive fast
and get through you know,there's, there was just a lot

(41:48):
of, you know, like, like, at 1.1of his first races, see, he's,
he's one of the last cars inbecause he was a late addition,
and he starts his warm up laplate so, you know? And the
commentators are saying at thispoint, they're like, oh, wow,
he's all and meanwhile, all theother drivers tires have cooled,

(42:09):
and he's going to be going onwarm tires. And you're like,
pretty sneaky, Sis, you know he,I mean, he knew what he was
doing. At first, they're like,oh, what's he doing? Is his car
stall, what's going on? And it'sone of those things that you
know you're like, is this reallyfair? You know, there's nothing
that says he can't do that. Butyeah, so anyway, f1 total dad

(42:31):
movie. And you know, if youdon't mind the fact that, you
know, they take the strong,capable woman and turn her into
a love interest, you'll be allabout

it. Before we go, we have to talk about

Predator (42:44):
Killer of Killers. Oh, yes, we have to, yeah. I

mean, especially because we are the only people
in, like, some of the few whogot to see it theatrically,

yeah, Jacob and I got to go to the world
premiere at the Egyptian forKiller of Killers. And we said
it with Prey. We're gonna saywith killer of killers, it
needed to have a theatricalrelease that is an epic as fuck
movie.

This is the animated one, right?

correct. So it's an animated anthology. And
I'm, I'm fairly certain whenprey came out, and everyone was
going, I want my Predator movieset in samurai time. I want my
Predator movie set in World WarTwo. I want my and like,
everyone was giving out, like,timelines and like, and they're
taking notes. Yeah, I'm fairlycertain they went, That's not a

(43:34):
bad idea. But what I didn't knowis the animation studio behind
it. It's their first animatedmovie. They're actually a previs
company, so they would basicallycreate the movie in CG, like,
have scenes play out, likeanimate scenes, so that
directors can see it, and theycan make notes on, like, camera

(43:55):
angles and things of thatnature. And so they were they,
and they had been working withDan trattenberg for years, and
when they started developingthis idea, they were like, We
can do this. And for first time,animated film, it looks fucking
gorgeous, like it is such a coolanimation design and style that

(44:15):
they chose, and they match theworlds perfectly, because it's
the three main worlds are, whatis it? It's a Viking where you
have a dual shield wieldingViking warrior woman as and
she's so cool and bad ass. So

she's a shield Maiden,

shield maiden.
There we go. She's an absoluteicon. And then it's ninja and
Samurai. And then it's a, Ibelieve it's World War Two.

World War Two,

yeah, dog fight. So you have a predator
and a ship versus World War Twoera fighter planes. And it's,
there's another boat. We're notgoing to spoil anything, but it
is so much fun. It's so bloody.
It's, it's fucking predator.
Through and Through. Like, Ah,what a meaty movie. What do you

(45:04):
think? Jacob, Oh,

I loved I loved it. I had a fantastic time. I
loved predator. Killer ofkillers. It delivered on, as you
were saying, something that thepeople wanted so much because,
like, it's been established inthe canon that predators have
been hunting humans throughouthistory. So there's just such a
bunch of different ways that youcould do with the concept. And
it really brought me back,because, like, I grew up on the

(45:27):
Dark Horse Comics, predatorstuff, which had a lot of that
with, like, predators versuspirates and Predator rampaging
for a 1950s Hollywood lot. Soyou there's just so many
different things you could dowith that idea. And without
spoiling it, they do add someunique spins on the mythology

(45:50):
and how that kind of tiestogether, and what Trachtenberg
might be building up toward. Butyeah, it was really good, and I
and seeing it in theaters reallydid make a difference just with
how pumped the audience was, andlike they applauded whenever the
big one of the big fights cameto a very bloody end. It was
really cool. I yeah, it's justsuch a good time. And I hope we

(46:13):
get another one of these,because there's just so many
different time errors that youcould go into. And

it's insane that they made this while making

Predator (46:21):
Badlands, like it was being done same time. Crazy co
directed it with the animationdirector. So it's, it's, it's a
little more understanding on howthey were able to do it. But
like, that's still a hugeundertaking, making two predator
movies and keeping one of themlike, super secret. Like no one
knew they were making thisanimated film until they dropped

(46:42):
the trailer, so, but they knewthere was a second one. But
yeah, insane, and yes, there's apredator to reference in it. So,
you know, I was happy actually,at the premiere, they were like,
hey, what's ever because Dantrattenberg was there and all
them, and they're like, What'severyone's favorite Predator
movie? And everyone's goingPrey! Predator! and I just top

(47:02):
of my lungs, Predator 2! And theguys at the Egyptian were like,
who, who said it was Predator 2?
Like, who's that psychopath outthere?

Unknown (47:14):
That was me, baby.

Were you wearing your skeleton onesie?

No, I don't remember what I was wearing.
That was a long day. There was aguy dressed up as a predator
there too. It was just, it

was just a fun time. Yeah, yeah. They had the
giant Viking predator from kmb.
Oh

yeah. They had the life size statue of the of
the Viking story predator. And,yeah, he got a booty on him. Was
it? Jake, Jacob, I think it wasDustin to try taking a picture
with the predators, but and hedid. He yelled at him.

Well, they didn't yell at him. They just
told him to not get so close toit. Yeah,

yes. They were very respectful, but they were
very much so like back away fromthe predators. Booty, sir.

Pretty much was Chris Hansen there. No,

no, no. Maybe they're

saving that for the sequel. Yeah, the pedo

Slayer was not there, but it's really cool, and
they do how it ends opens up oneither a whole new world that
they can explore with the anime,or something with Badlands, all
I know is like there'sdefinitely like, they've left
enough bread clubs to be like,fuck. Now I need, like, five

(48:28):
more of these, please.

I think, I think every Predator movie is
going to open up five moreworlds.

Oh god. I mean, they always did. Remember,
famously, predator two teasedAVP and these, the all these
worlds and stories like that.
And that's one of the reasonswhy I love predator two so much,
is the is the world buildingthat happened with it? Because
the first one was very much solike, this is an isolated
incident predators like baby,

cool, all right. Well, let's call this one
an episode. So again, hope youlike these. You know, catch up
episodes with us, because that'swhat you got. I'm not even going
to promise two weeks anymore.
I'm just going to say we'll seeyou when we see

it'll happen when it happens. That's just

but, yeah, let's, let's get on out of here.
Our theme song is by RestlessSpirits, so go give them a
listen. And our artwork is byChris Fisher, so go give him a
like. It's been so long since Idid that, I almost forgot how it
went. You can find us on any ofthe socials under Eye On Horror,
or@ihorror.com which is the sitewe all call home. And yeah, you

(49:37):
guys have some homework with allthese shudder movies that that
that we've you know that we'verecommended I, because I'm just
assuming everyone who listens tous, like us pays for shudder. So
good call. Keep shudder going.
Also, if you're listening tothis on day one, go to our
socials, and you can if there'sstill any left you. Might get to

(49:59):
go to a preview of M3gan 2.0 itis tomorrow night, if you listen
to this on the first day. And ifyou want to see what I look like
in real life, I'm going to bethere. So check that out. And
hey, if you miss me or Jacobduring this downtime, I am still
putting the cryptozoo outconsistently, and Jacob is still

(50:21):
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Edwards,

I'm Jacob Davison

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