October 20, 2025 • 50 mins
This week, the boys wrap up with Beyond Fest and dive face first into Screamfest reviewing festival hits Vicious, Dead By Dawn, Big Baby, Dooba Dooba, Meat Kills, and Jimmy! Don't you worry, we have a lot of great titles so we will be reviewing Screamfest titles for a few episodes!
But first, Jacob and Correia take Choose Your Adventuring to the next bloody level with Dead Reset on the PS4 (On all current gaming consoles, we just haven't upgraded yet), Correia dives into Advertisement Horror Shorts with Fruithead and Sweet Revenge, and the boys also review current theatrical releases of Black Phone 2, Tron Ares, and Guillermo del Toro's Frankenstein!
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James Jay Edwards (00:25):
Welcome to eye on horror, the official
podcast of ihorror.com this isepisode 152 otherwise known as
season eight. Episode 12. I amyour host, James Jay Edwards,
and with me, as always, is yourother host, Jacob Davison, how
you doing? Jacob?
Jacob Davidson (00:42):
Doing I'm doing okay. Just October has been
kicking my ass.
James Jay Edwards (00:48):
You sound terrible. No offense.
Jacob Davidson (00:55):
Allergy Attack,
James Jay Edwards (00:56):
sorry about that. Well, let's move on to so
you don't have to talk too much.
Let's move on to your other,other hosts, Jon Correia, how
you doing?
Jonathan Correia (01:04):
Correia, I'm doing all right. You know, back
from Vegas, finally, finally, nolonger living in a casino. So
that's that's nice. Starting torecognize what is daytime, what
is nighttime, what is time ingeneral. So, you know, starting
to feel a bit like a personagain. Cool.
James Jay Edwards (01:26):
What's been going on this week? The big
release this week is blackphone. Two you guys see it?
Jacob Davidson (01:33):
Yeah, I saw that Beyond Fest a couple weeks ago.
Oh, cool. I saw it. Was awesome.
James Jay Edwards (01:38):
Yeah, I saw it a couple of days ago. It, it
is not as good as the BlackPhone, but it's a completely
different kind of movie. It'sweird because it functions as
both a sequel and a prequel,because it picks up a couple of
years after the Black Phone, andFinney and Gwen are they had to
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do it a couple years after,because the kids have grown up.
So it makes it more natural,because they're, they're,
they're more like young adultsnow than kids, but it more
focuses on Gwen, and she stillhas her dreams, and her dreams
lead them to this Christianyouth camp where there are
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basically more dead kids thatare reaching out to her. So
there's a mystery to be solvedthere, which, of course, has to
do with the grabber and hisorigins. So it's like a sequel
and a prequel, but it's it's adifferent kind of movie. It's
more of like a mystery than apure horror film. So it's not as
pants poopingly scary as theblack phone, but it is still
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very much a Scott Derricksonmovie, like very much,
Jacob Davidson (02:49):
and I do love the shift from The Grabber being
just a serial killer to goingfull Freddy Krueger and
attacking attacking people intheir dreams.
James Jay Edwards (03:03):
Yeah, he's very much a Freddie Creek.
There's one scene in particularthat is, it goes past being A
Nightmare on Elm Street homage.
It's a straight rip off, but Ifeel like it's like a loving rip
off, like Scott Erickson had toknow what he was doing with this
one scene, because it is soNightmare on Elm Street. The
proper term is homage. Yeah,that's what I was saying. But it
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goes past homage. I mean, it'salmost, I mean, it's a quote
just about,
Jacob Davidson (03:30):
also, I do like the winter setting the because,
like, the previous movie wassaid during the spring, and this
is the winter, so have a lot ofthe snow elements to it, which a
lot of horror sequels haveattempted. But I think one of
the first ones really kind ofpulled that off. And without
spoiling too much, ice skatinghas evolved,
James Jay Edwards (03:54):
yeah, a big part of it is this mountain
Christian camp, yeah, thisChristian camp that's on a lake.
So there's a frozen lake andthere's a, it's a, you know,
it's a good time. It's not asgood as the Black Phone. I
wouldn't say I was disappointedin it, but the Black Phone, I
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think, is, is a masterpiece. Ione thing about Black Phone 2,
if you I watched the Black Phonethe night before I watched Black
Phone. And you really need tohave, not just have seen but
have to freshly seen the BlackPhone in order to fully
appreciate Black Phone 2,because it, it leans really
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heavily on the first movie, youknow, like the mythology. So you
it, it doesn't really spoon feedyou what happened in the movie
before you have to already know.
So luckily, most people who areinterested in Black Phone 2
probably have already seen BlackPhone, so
Jacob Davidson (04:54):
it's, well, I mean, you kind of have to see
the first Black Phone in orderto see the Black Phone 2. It's a
progressive i.
James Jay Edwards (05:00):
Yeah, yeah.
But I'm saying, you know, if youyou need to kind of have it
fresh in your head, you know.
But I mean, if, if you're intothe Black Phone, I mean, it is a
good, logical next step, and italmost seems like they're trying
to franchise the grabber,because, you know, even though
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you know, another spoiler alert,you know, they defeat him again
this time. But did they, youknow? I mean, he's more of a
supernatural entity now, and notlike a he's not like Buffalo
Bill, he's like Freddy Kruegernow. So, you know, will he be
back again? Yeah, exactly, yeah,so, and, you know, honestly, I'm
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fine with it. I mean, he's, thething is, it's Ethan Hawke
again. But aside from his voice,you can't really tell, because
when parts of the mask come off,they have this massive makeup
job underneath it. That is like,because he's dead, you know, so
he's a corpse, yeah, yeah, he's,he's like Jason in Part Six, you
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know? He's like, So, but, yeah,it's a,
Jacob Davidson (06:10):
it's cool. I really, I really liked it. I had
a good time with it, and Ithought that their spin on the
sequel was pretty fun, like atthe Q A for beyond fest. C
Robert Cargill, the writer wassaying that Joe Hill was the one
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who kind of gave them theinspiration for the sequel, and
saying, like, what if thegrabber called Finney from hell?
And it just kind of went fromthere. And, yeah, I had a fun
time with it too. Like it didkind of feel like the logical
progression from the original,especially with the character
arcs, and, you know, kind ofadding the even more
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supernatural elements with thegrabber being a ghost himself
this time. And I'd still arguethat Black Phone 2 is pretty
scary. Like, again, you have theNightmare in Elm Street ish
sequences. Like, there, there'ssome pretty intense seeds where
the grabber is attacking peoplewhile they're sleeping. But
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also, like, he's kind of aninvisible ghost, so he can just,
like, fuck people up, and theywon't even know where he's
coming from.
James Jay Edwards (07:23):
Derekson plays with typical, like, horror
camera tropes a lot like, youknow, he does that thing where,
like, the camera will move andand as it moves to the other
side of the character, therewill be, you know, like a dead
kid or the grass, you know, youit will reveal something. But
then there's a couple times hedoes that when you're expecting
it to be there and it's not, andyou're like, oh, okay, now I see
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where you're, you're setting usup. I mean, he's, he's, he's a
master. He's one of those lowkey masters where, like, um, you
know, he doesn't get mentionedin the same breath as, like,
Flanagan or Jordan Peele oranything, but Scott
Derrickson's. He's one of the upand comers too, you know? I
mean, if you can call him up andcoming
Jacob Davidson (08:05):
because he's, he's been at it since
James Jay Edwards (08:09):
Sinister, yes, like 15 years ago.
Jacob Davidson (08:12):
Yeah, yeah. I was also gonna say Exorcism of
Emily Rose, yeah. But no, he's,he's been very consistently
good, especially in that regard.
So, yeah, no, he's, he's solid.
James Jay Edwards (08:22):
He took a he took a detour to do Doctor
Strange, but,
Jacob Davidson (08:27):
you know,
James Jay Edwards (08:29):
who didn't? I mean, that was the point where
Marvel was, was given every upand coming filmmaker, a movie,
you know? And some of it wasgood, some of it wasn't,
speaking of under the radarmovies, and this is kind of this
kind of jumping ahead, becausethis technically was a
Screamfest title, but I didn'tsee it on Screamfest. I saw it
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on paramount. Plus, have youguys seen Vicious? Oh my god,
Vicious it, first of all, it hasa terrible name, because it's so
generic that you I wish thatthey had named it better. This
is two of my favorite things,Brian Bertino, who did The
Strangers and The Dark and TheWicked and The Monster, and
(09:15):
Dakota Fanning and this,basically, this is more Dark and
The Wicked than The Strangers.
But basically, this woman bringsthis box to Dakota Fanning,
knocks on her door and her wholethe beginning of her pitch is
you're gonna die unless you putthree things in this box,
something that you hate,something that you need and
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something that you love. So, youknow, Davison's like, okay,
whatever, you know. But then shestarts realizing, okay, there's
something to this, and, and, andif she fakes it and doesn't put,
you know, something that shereally hates or needs or
whatever, it won't take it. It'slike, you put it in the box, you
close it, and when you open itback up. And if. Thing is still
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there? Nope, try again. You knowyou're not actually there. And
at one point, like, the firstthing she puts in this box is
she puts her cigarettes in thereas something that she hates. And
at first I thought, I'm like,You know what? This is? Too soon
for this. Because I thought itcould that could theoretically
be all three, something you hatesomething you need, something
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you love. And you know, if itwas a short film, hey, game
over. But the box was like, tryagain. This isn't actually what
it is, and it leads her to somereally dark places to you know,
the things that this box wantsfrom her are pretty messed up,
but it is, it's, it's just sucha dirty little I mean, maybe
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it's not renamed, maybe it's notpoorly named because it's a
vicious movie, but I feel likethe name is so generic that it's
gonna get forgotten. You know,that's
Jonathan Correia (10:57):
better than calling it The Box, though,
that's even more generic anddone too. Yeah, I know Jacob and
I have been spending a lot oftime playing the same video
game. We've actually had it inour hands for a minute, but I've
I've already played throughonce, and currently playing
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through with Lindsay, the newdead reset from Wales
interactive, the company whodoes a lot of those kind of
choose your own adventure, askvideo games with live action,
which is right up our alley. Imean, we've already had choose
your own adventure on the showthis year, and we've talked
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about our love for night. Whatis it? Night fright? No, not
night fright. That oneinteractive game, anywho, Dead
Reset. What do you think, Jacob,I have, I'm having a lot of fun
with it. Yeah, I
Jacob Davidson (11:54):
thought it was a lot of fun. I haven't beaten it
yet, but I played for a bunch ofit. And, yeah, no, it is kind of
like what you were saying that.
It reminds me a lot of those oldFMV games. Oh, Night Trap. It
was the game was Night Trap,yeah, but yeah, no, it's
basically like you're playing amovie, so like you do all these
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different choices, and it playsall these different scenes that
could affect the outcome of thegame. It's, it does really get
you into into the game.
Jonathan Correia (12:24):
Yeah, if you guys don't know about Dead
Reset, it's, first of all, it's,it's all it is, like a movie you
have actual actors. It's, you'rethat we're playing out the
scenes, and the story followsCole Mason and asthmatic, not
asthmatic, amnesic surgeon who'strapped in a time loop. And
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basically, when he comes to thefirst time they're like, You
need to perform surgery on thiswoman and hold him at like
gunpoint. And when he does,there's like, a an alien
creature thing inside of her.
And the choices you make, canrestart the time loop or
progress a story. It alldepends, and there's information
revealed depending on yourchoice, and also your choices
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influence how people react toyou and interact with you. It's
really interesting. Lindsey, andI love playing these type of
games. We play the quarry anduntil dawn often. And sometimes,
with those games, they put toomuch interaction into it. And so
it kind of like takes, takes youout of the story a little bit,
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because it's, there's timeswhere it's like, Oh, you got to
run. You got to run. But also,kind of want to a character
hasn't died in a while. I kindof want to make this choice, you
know. And so it's, it's nice tokind of have it be boiled down
to choose one or the otherchoice. But there still be so
many branches. I can't imaginehow many times they re shot.
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Scenes for this like, I want tosee what the map of footage is,
because it's insane the amountof like, choices and branches
you can do by making these twochoices, and still have, like,
all this influence on the game,on how it plays out. But it's
it's a lot of fun, and it'sbloody too.
Jacob Davidson (14:13):
Yeah. No, there are a lot of extremely violent
deaths and creature effects andcreature effects that kill
people in really gory ways. Soit is definitely horror. Even
has a honestly, kind of has abit of a Dead Space vibe to it.
And, you know, they do a lotwith a little,
Jonathan Correia (14:31):
yeah, no, it's, it's, it's a lot of fun.
We're doing a play through rightnow where Lindsey and I take
turns making the choices, andit's, and I like doing that,
because it's, it's fun to belike, Wait, well, wait, I
wouldn't have done that. What doyou why did you do that?
Jacob Davidson (14:48):
So I'm sure it shakes things up.
Jonathan Correia (14:51):
Yeah, so Dead Reset. It's, it's a lot of fun,
and it's available on just aboutevery platform I know. Jacob and
I were playing on PlayStation 4.
But It's also on Steam, nextgens, all of them. So check it
out.
Jacob Davidson (15:05):
Oh yeah, it's everywhere. Cool.
James Jay Edwards (15:08):
Another thing that I saw, which I am not sure
if I'm breaking embargo or not,but I don't care. I'm going to
talk about it. I sawFrankenstein, the new Guillermo
del Toro,
Jacob Davidson (15:21):
yeah, I'll be seeing that in a few hours.
James Jay Edwards (15:24):
I'll be interested to see what you think
of it. It is long, and it feelslong, that's the thing. It's two
and a half hours, and it feels,it feels like four hours. It's a
beautifully made movie, whichyou would expect from Guillermo
del Toro, but I feel like thereneeded to be an edit in there
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somewhere, because it is.
There's not really dead space.
But there I had issues with thepacing. There are lulls in what
goes on. And you're like, youknow they you know this, this
meeting could have been an emailkind of a thing. It's more. I
mean, he took some libertieswith the book. But the monster,
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which is Jacob elordi, he, um,the monster is more. It is more
like the book than we're used toseeing, because the monster is
actually, he's, he's kind ofintelligent. He's, he's like a
he's like a child. You knowwhere, like he gets born, and
then you've got to, then he's,he's learning things. And as he
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learns, he gets more and morecognizant and and he realizes
that that basically VictorFrankenstein, who's Oscar Isaac,
is was playing God when Hecreated him, and he kind of
resents him for it. So it's alittle bit of, you know,
philosophy there, but it's, Imean it, it's kind of a double
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edged sword, because it's areally well made movie, but the
pacing is, I mean, it's glacialin places, which is kind of
funny, because there's a lot of,there's a lot of ice in the
movie, but it, um, but, yeah,it's, it's, it's, it's
definitely a GDT movie visually,because, You know, it's kind of
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got that steampunk thinghappening, and, yeah, it's an
experience. I'm hoping that forawards voting, Netflix usually
sends out these big boxes fullof swag with their movies, and
I'm hoping I get one forFrankenstein. I'm hoping there's
some good stuff that comes. Iwill trade. I will trade my
coffee table book of theIrishman and Roma for for one,
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about the art of Frankenstein,because I think it's going to be
a pretty cool, it would be acool coffee table book, but,
yeah, it's, um, I'll beinterested to see what you think
of it, Jacob, because I thinkthat you're gonna like it, but
I'm wondering if you're going tohave the same issues with pacing
as I had.
Jacob Davidson (18:03):
Well, I'll see how it shakes out. But yeah, no,
I'm literally seeing it in justa few hours over at the Egyptian
but no, I've been very excitedfor this, like I know Guillermo
del Toro is a massiveFrankenstein fan, to the point
where, when I was visiting hisexhibit at the LACMA museum that
he actually owns an originalfirst edition copy of Mary
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Shelley's Frankenstein.
Jonathan Correia (18:28):
Wow, that's insane. Yeah, that's awesome.
Jacob Davidson (18:33):
That thing's gonna be worth a fortune. Is it
signed?
James Jay Edwards (18:36):
That would be incredible. Yeah, you can tell
that he has a respect for thestory, even though there are
some liberties taken with it.
You can tell that he's and hewasn't setting out to make a
pure horror movie like JamesWhale was with his with the
original Frankenstein. You know,it's more of like a gothic tale
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with horror elements. It's, it'sit's not particularly scary,
but, you know, it's, it's more,it's kind of like what Shape of
Water was for Creature from theBlack Lagoon. This is for
Frankenstein, you know, it's,except it's not modern. It is.
It's a period piece, but, but,you know, it's kind of like, you
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know that all the themes and themain skeleton of the story are
there, but it is a it's, it's, Imean, it's, I struggle with it,
because it's a beautifully mademovie, but there were parts of
it when I was just looking at mywatch, going, okay, you know,
can can we get to some morestuff happening?
Jonathan Correia (19:38):
I mean, it sounds more like in tune with
what the actual book is.
Because, I mean, the originalbook is more Gothic tale and,
like, ideology. I mean, there'sentire chunks of it where it's
Adam, the creature, just droningon and on, which is great, but
if you're doing that, yeah, he
James Jay Edwards (19:57):
does that. He it's almost like. It. There are
something because it's dividedinto A into two, Victor's tale,
and then the creature's tale.
And at one point, becauseVictor's tale tells like the
creation of it, and then when,when it escapes, and you want to
know what it's been doing, untilthe whole thing is told in
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flashback. At the very beginningof it, there's this ship that's
like iced in, and the crew istrying to free the ship. And
then they see off in thedistance there's a fire. So they
go and investigate, and theyfind Victor, and they bring him
back to the boat. But as they'rebringing him back to the boat,
the creature is like attackingthem, because the creature wants
Victor. So they get him on theboat, and he tells his story,
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and then the creature shows up,and because all he wants is
Victor, he doesn't want to hurtthese sailors, even though he is
because he's trying to get toVictor, or to, yeah, because
he's trying to get to Victor. Sowhen he gets there, he's like,
Okay, let me tell you my sidenow, you know so and he is very
wordy and articulate, which is,you know, something a lot of
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people don't know, Frank thatthe Frankenstein's monster is
because he, you know, he has abrain, but it's like a child,
and he has to learn. But thereare times when you're just like,
pining for the James WhaleFrankenstein. You're like, Oh,
dude, shut up, and let's get onwith this movie. Because he
talks, you know, he talks a lot,but
Jonathan Correia (21:25):
that's the book. Yeah, exactly. I Yeah. I'm
looking forward to, after acentury of quiet, Adam, I'm
looking I'm looking forward tothe droning, one, one thing.
Well, I should say two things,because these are both shorts,
but it's kind of the state ofthe industry right now. There's
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two horror shorts that werereleased that have major
advertisement tie in with it.
One is, have you guys seenFruithead?
Jacob Davidson (21:55):
Oh, yeah, I saw it. The gushers commercial
horror short,
Jonathan Correia (22:01):
Bradley, Whitford, so if you guys don't
recall, there was these gusherscommercials in the 90s where
kids would eat a gusher, andtheir head would turn into fruit
and they'd go, Radical! And sogushers commissioned a like 10
minute short film where BradleyWoodford plays the director of
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those commercials, and he'slike, I needed to be more, more
realistic, more so he uses aspell book to cast to craft this
gusher that actually turns achild's head into the fruit
head, and which leads to thishorrific scene of this kid
eating and then going, Oh,what's happening? It's not
right. And you see BradleyWoodford with, like, his little
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fucking terrible facial hair andponytail like typical director
look stereotype the 90s. Andhe's like, that's not the line
as, like the kid screaming ashis head starting into fruit.
And then one of the designerscomes up and goes, Hey, art
department just did this withthis new thing called CGI. He
goes, Oh, that's great. Let's dothat instead. And then, years
later, the kid comes back toseek his revenge on Bradley
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Whitford with the Fruithead. Ithought it was a lot of fun. I
mean, it's, it's a 10 Minutecommercial production, but it
also it feels, it feels like,like one of those, like, Too
Many Cooks type things whereit's like, hey, remember this
nostalgic thing? Well, wetwisted it and are having fun
with it. But it, it wascommissioned by Gushers, which I
(23:30):
think is, is fun. It's a funthing to for them to put money
in. What do you think, Jacob?
Jacob Davidson (23:37):
I thought it was really funny, because, you know,
especially for like, the stuffis trying to be scary and
playing all these tropes. It'sat the end of the day, like you
said, it's a gushers commercial.
So it is just such an absurdityto it that even though it's kind
of disturbing, it's also reallyfunny, because, yeah, it is
playing off of that nostalgia.
(23:57):
And again, just a crazy asssituation with, yeah, the kid
who got his head gushered Goingfull The Strangers on Bradley
Whitford did his Hollywoodmansion. It's just so funny.
Jonathan Correia (24:13):
It's, it's so good. There's, like, some weird
stuff where Bradley whitfordscharacters like struggling to
eat fruit, and he's got gloveson and stuff like, it gets real
weird, and I appreciate thatthey, they really went for it.
And, like, the entire time, itdoes have that layer of, like,
gushers paid for this. Thisisn't like, Yeah, this isn't
like, someone like that, thatother fake commercial thing
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where it's the kids turninginto, like, the silver stuff in
the from the Capri Suncommercials, that horrific
internet video. But yeah, theythey really went for it. So
yeah, it's a lot of fun. It's onYouTube. Highly recommend it.
It's 10 minutes. It's a funtime. The other one that I
watched was Sweet Revenge, whichis also available on YouTube.
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It's a it's the first thing madeout of the Jason universe,
because I guess they sorted outthe rights with Jason, and now
they launched a whole thingcalled the Jason universe. And
the first thing they made is a16 minute Friday, the 13th short
film. It's directed by Mike PNelson, who did the Wrong Turn
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reboot a few years ago, and alsodid one of the V/H/S/99 or
sorry, VHS 8980 that 85 V/H/S/85titles, and it was done in
partnership with Angry Orchard.
And it definitely was made inpartnership with Angry Orchard.
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It's not like they were, like,super egregious with, like,
showing, like, oh man, you know,like, it's a group of, it's,
it's, it's a Friday 13 story,group of teenagers go to Camp
Crystal Lake for vacation, andJason crashes the party. There
was really interestingimplication, or, like, how do I
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say there was really interestingways that they incorporated the
angry orchard brand. There'slike, some really weird bits
with like the people who own thecabin and apples, that was like
weird and uncomfortable. Andthen, of course, whenever
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they're partying, they'redrinking angry orchard. But
outside of being a commercial,because it is at the end of the
day, angry orchard paid for it,I thought it was incorporated
pretty well that it wasn'tdistracting. But as a as a Jason
short, it it feels like a fanfilm. And I don't know if it's
just because it's as like areintroduction to this iconic
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character, or the fact thatwe've seen so many fan films
come out over the years whilethe rights issues were being
resolved, but as like a as likea Jason shows up and kills a
bunch of campers. It's a funtime. I was really surprised on
how the score was. It's very80s, very all that. And did have
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kind of a moment of like, whenare you going to do it? When are
you going to do the Kiki mamastuff, and when it and when it
happens, it's the right moment.
So it's, it's a lot of fun that116's minutes. Hey, you got a
half hour. You can watch both ofthese. But they're both
interesting because it's kind ofwhere the industry is now. No
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one's wanting to pay foranything district, at least on
the distributor sides of things.
And so I think we're going to beseeing a lot more of this kind
of sponsored content being moreintegrated into the stories and
everything. And you know,there's some pros and cons to
that, but if at the end of theday, having angry orchard be
(27:59):
incorporated into Friday the13th leads to more. Jason kills
I'm okay with it. Always downfor more.
Jacob Davidson (28:08):
Jason, yeah, and it sounds like we'll be getting
more of him in due time.
Jonathan Correia (28:13):
Yeah. I just, I need a Friday the 13th. Friday
13th feature, like, just do it.
Do it, you cowards.
James Jay Edwards (28:24):
One thing that we have all been kind of
watching, and I alluded to alittle bit earlier with Vicious
is that scream fest is it's thattime of year again, and we have
all been kind of flooded. Ishould say, in fact, this is
probably a part one of two,because I know I'm not talk
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about, yeah, I there's a lot totalk about and a lot to watch.
And I know that I'm not through,I'm not through even half of the
Jacob Davidson (28:56):
screens that we got. So we have a wealth of
movies to choose from. Yeah,it's such
Jonathan Correia (29:02):
a, such a first world problem. Oh, no, we
have too many horror movies towatch and review.
Jacob Davidson (29:07):
Yeah,
James Jay Edwards (29:08):
but let's start off with Dead by Dawn.
Yes, you guys get to this.
Jacob Davidson (29:13):
Yes, I did get I didn't get to that one. This is
Jacob.
James Jay Edwards (29:17):
I was gonna say, I want to hear what you
think of this, Jacob, becausethis movie has you written all
over it.
Jacob Davidson (29:24):
Okay, Dead, by Dawn. I will put a pin in that.
James Jay Edwards (29:27):
Yeah, let's this movie is, I mean, this,
it's like, it's almost like agiallo but, but it's more my, I
don't know. It's weird. It's,like, got that. It's shot like a
giallo, but it has a more modernkiller, I feel like, and I
loved, Where have I seen thatkiller design? The killer is
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like, where's this mask of like,all these eyeballs, and it looks
so familiar. Where have I seenthat before?
Jonathan Correia (29:58):
So for some context. Is Dead by Don's a
Polish film, and it's aboutthese group of young actors who
are summoned to a theater tobring this, like avant garde,
like dance play, to life, andthere's a killer on the loose in
the theater, and
James Jay Edwards (30:15):
theater is cursed. The theater is like,
yeah,
Jonathan Correia (30:20):
it was, it's one of those, like, this
building was built for ritualsand, like, all this stuff. And,
like, it's the killer, yeah, ithas this mask, and it's covered
in eyeballs, which is very, Istill haven't seen it. It's,
I've owned, like, three copies,but delirium, I think it's
called where it's has theperson, where the head is one
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giant eyeball. That's what itkept reminding me of, at least,
James Jay Edwards (30:44):
well, that's the residents, the that band,
the residents
Jonathan Correia (30:48):
Yeah, or the residents
James Jay Edwards (30:50):
Yeah. What it reminded me of is, what was
that? Channel Zero, not ChannelZero, that that creepy pasta TV
show where Channel Zero, but,but the was that the citizen
that had the teeth
Jacob Davidson (31:05):
guy, yeah, zero, with Candle Cove,
James Jay Edwards (31:09):
yeah, yeah, yeah, the Candle Cove, the the
teeth guy, it reminded me of theteeth guy, but with eyeballs.
That's why. Yeah, it's, it'sreally but, but I've seen that
somewhere before, and I can'tput my finger on the whole time,
I was like, Where, what is thatmask referencing? But, yeah,
this, this movie, um, it goespretty, you know what? All of
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the ScreamFest that I've watchedso far, they all go really hard,
like, hard, yeah, dude, there,yeah, there are entrails over
these movies, and this one is noexception. These kills are
bloody and brutal, which is morethe giallo thing, I think, but
it, yeah, this is
Jonathan Correia (31:52):
a dip by Don was a lot
Jacob Davidson (31:54):
of fun, dude. I gotta watch that one. I'm
putting it on my, on my to watchlist,
James Jay Edwards (31:59):
yeah, moving up to the front. This is very
much your shit.
Jonathan Correia (32:02):
This is, it's, it's like, the first two thirds
of it is very, I kind of want tosay it's like post nu metal
cinema, gialla slasher. And thenthe third act just goes
absolutely bonkers, because it'salmost like, because this whole
time, because, you know, and wesay gialla lot, because there's
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a lot of color with thelighting, a lot of, like, very
stylized with it, and, you know,black glove killer and all that.
And then, like, the third act,it's almost like the movie
remembers, oh yeah, all thatritual shit that we set up early
in the movie. Let's get intothat. And when it does, that's
when it really hooked me. I waslike, Oh, we're getting into
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what I really want and love outof this stuff. And yeah, it goes
for it's a lot of fun. I thoughtit was really interesting,
especially incorporating thestuff of the on avante garde
play dance into the final actthat the actors were doing
earlier in the film. I thoughtwas really cool and interesting.
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Very, very much. So invokeSupiria a bit with that. So,
yeah, it's, it's a, it's a, it'sa nasty little movie, and I had
a lot of fun with it.
Jacob Davidson (33:16):
I'll have to check that out on my end. Did
either of you guys see Big Baby.
Jonathan Correia (33:22):
No, that's on my watch list. Yeah. Okay,
Jacob Davidson (33:26):
yeah. Now, this one was a lot of fun. I was
drawn to it specifically becauseit's the latest film from spider
one who some of you may know asRob Zombie's brother, but who's
been making a lot of horrormovies the last several years
like his most recent one wasLittle Bites, which was produced
by Cher, because Chaz Bono wasinvolved as the producer and
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actor. And it's the same withthis one. The big baby was
produced by Cher, and also costars Chaz Bono, and I think
this might be spider one thebest movie yet. Yeah, so
basically, it's about thishorror screen writer who just
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had a movie out. Forget thename, but it was like this
werewolf movie, but like that,he had to deal with the fallout,
because, like all these horrorpodcast douchebag, they're
shitting on his movie. And whatreally gets him is like one of
them tells him to kill himself,and he goes into kind of a
depressive spiral with hisgirlfriend, and then he starts
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getting these nightmares at thestroke of inspiration about this
giant, a hulking dude with agiant with a screaming baby mask
called Big Baby, and talkingabout how he's going to kill all
the people who did him wrong.
And he starts writing thescript, and he and he, and he
thinks that it's his best workyet. But then he starts seeing
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big baby in real life, and hestarts seeing the. Murders as
though they're real, so becausekind of a meta fictional slasher
movie situation and, but yeah,there's a lot of gore, and,
yeah, it it's a lot of fun, andit does kind of play with a lot
of the horror tropes and even alot of kind of horror community
(35:19):
and the current landscape ofhorror media and reviews, so I
thought it was very fascinatingin that regard. Yeah, no, I do
highly recommend it
Jonathan Correia (35:33):
nice adding that to the top of my list.
Another one that I think isright up Jacob's Alley is Dooba
Dooba, Have either of you DoobaDooba, Did either of you watch
Dooba Dooba? See that one yet?
Oh, man, Dooba Dooba. It's agreat title. Dooba Dooba is.
It's an analog horror film. Ithink there's going to be a lot
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of people comparing it toSkinamarink because of its
analog nature, it's not asethereal, I want to say, as
Skinamarink. Skinamarink wasdefinitely, I don't know that
was on like another plane ofexistence, but Dooba Dooba, it
follows this babysitter who'shired to watch over this 16 year
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old, which already is, like,that's a bit too old to have a
babysitter, and it's as as thenight goes on. You know, more is
revealed on, like, whathappened. So like the 16 year
old, the reason why she'sgetting a babysitter is because
she's still reeling from herbrother being killed while she
was in the same room as him, andso the family have all these
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CCTV cameras all over the house,and it's too many cameras, I
would say, with, because thefilmmakers definitely were like,
All right, that's the premise.
That's the reason why it looksand is the way it is. But like,
those cameras were everywhere,and such weird angles in usage
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with it, which I love becauseit's like, oh yeah, let's, let's
give you barely enoughinformation on why it looks or
give it enough justification forthe look and placement of this.
But they just went crazy withit, and I loved it. There's also
a lot of like, weird andinteresting cut ins with, like,
what looked like early Microsoftmovie editing, with like,
(37:26):
transitions and stuff and like,it's like, you're watching the
tapes just like, record out. Andso there's random inserts of,
like, you know, TV, like,presidential stuff. I don't know
it's really weird. It's veryatmospheric with its analog
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nature. And I had no idea whereit was going for most of the
movie, which I which I enjoyed,because I was like, I don't know
what's about to happen next, orwhat, where is this going? And
it's a, it's a fun little nastynumber. So yeah, Dooba Dooba
Jacob again, I think it's, it'sright up your alley, because it,
it really does give that, like,SOV feeling of like that kind of
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punk rock nature that comes withlike, SOV Horror.
James Jay Edwards (38:15):
cool another one that I watched that I and
I'm, I'm gonna butcher. Thisname, it's from the Netherlands.
It's Vleesdag. It translates toMeat Day. And it is about this,
this, this revolutionary groupwho they're like animal
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activists. And they go to thispig farm, and they they want to
go and release all these pigs.
They want to liberate the pigs,but the owners of the pig farm
are tipped off to the fact thatthey're coming, so when they
show up there, there are nopigs, and they kind of went into
a trap, you know. So it's kindof like you have the animal
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activists against theslaughterhouse. It's a family
owned slaughterhouse, andhonestly, neither side. There
are really no heroes in thismovie. Both sides kind of come
off as assholes. So and youknow, like Dead by Dawn, there's
a lot of just entrails spilledall over the place. And it's,
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there's one scene in it that isvery reminiscent of Apaches.
You'll, you'll, you'll know whenyou see it. Correia, but yeah,
it's, it is, is there's justlike blood and guts and gore
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spilled all over the place. And,I mean, I guess one of the
animal activist girls is kind ofthe heroine, but even she's not
that likable, you know, you're,you're, you're not really
rooting for her to die, butyou're, but you don't care. You
know, you. You, you kind of arelike, okay, you know, let's see,
you know, on to the next one.
(40:04):
Let's see some people die. Butit's, it has kind of a Hostel
vibe in more ways than one.
There's, like, in fact, there'sa couple places we were talking
about Black Phone 2, you know,channeling Nightmare on Elm
Street. There's a couple placeswhere this actually, I think,
channels Hostel. I think thefilmmakers, they had to have
been aware of theHostelreferences to this. But
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yeah, it was a, it's Vleesdag orsomething. It translates to meat
Jonathan Correia (40:33):
day. Is it meat day or Meat Kills? Meat
James Jay Edwards (40:36):
day is what the subtitles said. But I think
in IMDb, it's Meat Kills. So Idon't know. I don't, although I
should know Dutch by now,because another one of the
movies I watched Jimmy. Have youguys gotten to Jimmy? No,
Jonathan Correia (40:51):
no, that one came in when I was like, I don't
have enough time to watchanother screener.
James Jay Edwards (40:55):
But yeah, really well, Jimmy is really
short too. It's like 80 minutesor something like that. Jimmy is
another one from theNetherlands, and there's this,
this guy named Jimmy, who wentto a mental, a mental asylum,
and he killed himself and all ofhis, all of the his schoolmates,
and, you know, friends who,quote, friends who kind of drove
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him crazy. Are they start, youknow, dying in horrible ways. So
it's kind of a slasher movie.
But again, all three of thesemovies that that I have watched
so far, they're really brightand neon. I'm wondering if
that's like a trend from fromthese eastern European, you
know, or northern Europeancountries now, because Poland
and the Netherlands. We'regetting these, like, bright neon
(41:41):
colored movies coming out ofthere. But yeah, Jimmy is and
again, Jimmy goes hard. There'sthese movies the shit, and maybe
it's just the three that I'vehappened to watch so far. They
spare no expense on the effects,and they look like they're all
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practical, which is beautiful,you know. I mean, they're, when
they cut someone open and theirintestines spill out, you know,
you're you can tell that thatblood's really running down that
actor. It's pretty good.
Jonathan Correia (42:17):
Oh no, I love it. Because I was just the other
day bitching about how we don'tlight movie, we don't light
things anymore. We don't, youknow, it's, it's all kind of
that digital post whereeverything's too dark,
especially when it comes tohorror. And so it's, it's really
refreshing being able to seethings happen, and not only just
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see things happen, but likepeople kind of going back to
that, like, stylized, like, youknow what? It can be bright as
fuck at night, and you stillregisters in your in like, the
viewers bring that it'snighttime. Like, it's okay to
see everything, guys, we stillknow it's nighttime. Like, come
on,
Jacob Davidson (42:55):
better to see more than to see nothing.
Jonathan Correia (42:58):
Yeah, but yeah, so far, like the scream
fest, titles that I've seen haveall been bangers and nasty
little fuckers, and I'm having alot of fun. So yeah, we'll
definitely be reviewing a lotmore over the next few episodes.
James Jay Edwards (43:13):
Nasty is the perfect word for them, because,
yeah, they these movies are alljust yeah, they're
Jacob Davidson (43:21):
should be called gore fest, even, even
James Jay Edwards (43:24):
Vicious. You know which it technically, it's
a Screamfest title that'sparamount. Plus that one goes
pretty hard to like I say it'smore Dark and The Wicked than
the strangers, and I'm going toleave it at that, but, but if
you've seen dark and the wickedwhen you're watching the
vicious, you'll know exactly,why, absolutely.
Jacob Davidson (43:42):
And as an aside, I did actually attend ScreamFest
in person for a day, and I wentto a demo, or like demo video of
the new Hellraiser game,Hellraiser revival. Have you
guys heard about it?
Jonathan Correia (43:58):
Is it? Is it another 4v one game? Because
they've been doing that a
Jacob Davidson (44:01):
lot. No, no, no, no. It's not, not like that.
Okay, yeah, no, it's a oneperson game, and it's kind of a
direct continuation ofHellraiser. And Clive Barker
actually co wrote the videogame, and Doug Bradley is back
voicing pin head, and it doeslook very interesting. Again,
they showed, like the first halfhour of gameplay footage, where
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it's basically, you're this guywho's in a BDSM relationship
with this woman who has foundthe puzzle box, and mid coitus,
she opens the puzzle box. And asthese things tend to happen, the
cetabytes show up and take herinto the labyrinth. And you
start showing up in thelabyrinth, and it's just well,
(44:44):
because, like the first 10 or 15minutes of game, you're naked
and running around the labyrinthfrom Hellraiser two, and you're
seeing like the engineer, andsometimes the cetabytes pop up.
But then it does do aninteresting twist. Said that you
go back to the real world, youkind of go back and forth where,
it turns out, she stole thepuzzle box from this cult that
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worships the Cenobites and arelike sadomasochistic freaks who
like to torture people and gettortured. So there is some
action elements and some peopleyou could actually fight. So you
got to, like, fight your waythrough these guys in the
underground torture club, butthen you also sometimes end up
back in the labyrinth, and thereis kind of an extended, not
(45:29):
really boss fight, but like,chase sequence, where chatterer,
the one with the teeth, youknow, is coming after you, and
you're running through thelabyrinth, but the lab group
keeps changing, and the chairteleports. You have to go back
and forth and back and forth,and it's very hectic. Yeah? So
it got just a taste of what thegame would be like, but it does
(45:50):
look like a lot of fun, and itlooks very disturbing and gory
as fuck. Yeah.
Jonathan Correia (45:54):
That's that's so interesting, because as soon
as they're like, Hellraisergame, it's like, well, how are
you going to do that? Is it justpuzzles. Because I don't know if
you guys remember the Saw videogames back in the day where it
was basically like, you know,the God of War button, you know,
timed thing. And, you know, it'salways tricky, because when
you're adapting like a horrormovie like that, the best parts
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are the kills and but in a videogame, you're trying to avoid
being killed. But also,Hellraiser is very like, rich in
mythology, and like I You got mewith the story. That sounds
really cool and interesting, butI definitely, when they first
announced I was like, so is it a4v one thing? Is it a Doom type
game where you're fighting
Jacob Davidson (46:35):
thing, it's first person perspective. Also,
I compare it to like, ResidentEvil seven survival horror, but
first person and oh yeah, no,there's, there's death and gore
by the score, rest assured.
Jonathan Correia (46:47):
Yeah, I'm stoked. I know we got to go
soon, but I gotta, I gottamention Tron Ares before we dip
out. Oh yeah. Did either of youwatch it? Nah. So I would like
lifelong Tron fan. I definitelywent in going like, I just need
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some Tron action. I need aslutty ass nine inch nail score.
And I need Gillian Anderson.
That's all I need, because I wasalready, you know, not looking
forward to Jared Leto in it. AndI gotta say, it delivered on all
those it's very much so it's aTron movie, and almost every
respect of it good and bad, andit's absolutely serviceable.
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It's fine. The problem is JaredLeto, not only him as a person,
but also just anyone. Could haveplayed that character. He was so
wooden and really just kind ofruined what was a perfectly fine
Tron movie. There's a reallycool sequence where they go into
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Kevin Flynn's backup server,which is where you get your Jeff
Bridges cameo that they'veteased in the trailers and all
that. But the whole world is inthat classic, like the first
movie, very 80s, with thegraphics, and you have the one
bite character going, yes, no,and everything, and it's really
cool. And like, immediately Iwas like, All right, we're in
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this. And then it just cuts backto Jared Leto, and he goes
classic. And it's just like,Come on, dude, there's a whole
thing where they're showing himkind of, like, develop feet, or
like, talk about having feelingswhich programs shouldn't have,
and he's talking about DepecheMode, and how he loves Depeche
Mode, and how it's giving himfeelings. And I've never heard
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someone describe their favoriteband and what it does to them
emotionally so cold and wooden,it immediately filled me with
rage. I was like, take Depechemodes. Name out your mouth.
Like, don't, don't try to ruinit. And the second time they
did, I just full, full on, threwmy arms up in the air. Was just
like, fuck off. But yeah, I haveto say, not since West Side
(48:58):
Story was like a lead actor somiscasted and just completely
derailed. What otherwise wouldhave been totally just a fun
movie, you know. So, yeah, TronAres. I mean, it's serviceable,
but Jared little really fuckingruined it cool.
James Jay Edwards (49:17):
And on that note, we're gonna get out of
here more scream fest to come.
Like I said, this was a parttwo. There might even be a three
parter, because there's
Jacob Davidson (49:26):
a flood of stuff, so much ground to cover,
so many Gores, so little time.
James Jay Edwards (49:29):
Yes, yes, so much blood, so little time. But
for now, we're going to leaveyou. So our theme song is by
restless spirits, so go checkthem out. And our artwork is by
Chris Fisher, so go check himout. And you can check us out on
all the socials at eye on horroror@ihorror.com which is the site
we call home. And we will seeyou in a couple weeks with more
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screen fest. And I think we gota cool interview coming up, but
I don't want to jinx it, so I'mnot going to say more, but yeah,
stay tuned. We got good. Stuffcoming up, and everybody go see
black phone too. So for me,James Jay Edwards,
Jacob Davidson (50:06):
I'm Jacob Davison.
Jonathan Correia (50:06):
I'm Jonathan Correia.
James Jay Edwards (50:08):
Keep your eye on. Horror.
Welcome to eye on horror, the official
podcast of ihorror.com this isepisode 152 otherwise known as
season eight. Episode 12. I amyour host, James Jay Edwards,
and with me, as always, is yourother host, Jacob Davison, how
you doing? Jacob?
Jacob Davidson (00:42):
Doing I'm doing okay. Just October has been
kicking my ass.
James Jay Edwards (00:48):
You sound terrible. No offense.
Jacob Davidson (00:55):
Allergy Attack,
James Jay Edwards (00:56):
sorry about that. Well, let's move on to so
you don't have to talk too much.
Let's move on to your other,other hosts, Jon Correia, how
you doing?
Jonathan Correia (01:04):
Correia, I'm doing all right. You know, back
from Vegas, finally, finally, nolonger living in a casino. So
that's that's nice. Starting torecognize what is daytime, what
is nighttime, what is time ingeneral. So, you know, starting
to feel a bit like a personagain. Cool.
James Jay Edwards (01:26):
What's been going on this week? The big
release this week is blackphone. Two you guys see it?
Jacob Davidson (01:33):
Yeah, I saw that Beyond Fest a couple weeks ago.
Oh, cool. I saw it. Was awesome.
James Jay Edwards (01:38):
Yeah, I saw it a couple of days ago. It, it
is not as good as the BlackPhone, but it's a completely
different kind of movie. It'sweird because it functions as
both a sequel and a prequel,because it picks up a couple of
years after the Black Phone, andFinney and Gwen are they had to
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do it a couple years after,because the kids have grown up.
So it makes it more natural,because they're, they're,
they're more like young adultsnow than kids, but it more
focuses on Gwen, and she stillhas her dreams, and her dreams
lead them to this Christianyouth camp where there are
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basically more dead kids thatare reaching out to her. So
there's a mystery to be solvedthere, which, of course, has to
do with the grabber and hisorigins. So it's like a sequel
and a prequel, but it's it's adifferent kind of movie. It's
more of like a mystery than apure horror film. So it's not as
pants poopingly scary as theblack phone, but it is still
(02:46):
very much a Scott Derricksonmovie, like very much,
Jacob Davidson (02:49):
and I do love the shift from The Grabber being
just a serial killer to goingfull Freddy Krueger and
attacking attacking people intheir dreams.
James Jay Edwards (03:03):
Yeah, he's very much a Freddie Creek.
There's one scene in particularthat is, it goes past being A
Nightmare on Elm Street homage.
It's a straight rip off, but Ifeel like it's like a loving rip
off, like Scott Erickson had toknow what he was doing with this
one scene, because it is soNightmare on Elm Street. The
proper term is homage. Yeah,that's what I was saying. But it
(03:24):
goes past homage. I mean, it'salmost, I mean, it's a quote
just about,
Jacob Davidson (03:30):
also, I do like the winter setting the because,
like, the previous movie wassaid during the spring, and this
is the winter, so have a lot ofthe snow elements to it, which a
lot of horror sequels haveattempted. But I think one of
the first ones really kind ofpulled that off. And without
spoiling too much, ice skatinghas evolved,
James Jay Edwards (03:54):
yeah, a big part of it is this mountain
Christian camp, yeah, thisChristian camp that's on a lake.
So there's a frozen lake andthere's a, it's a, you know,
it's a good time. It's not asgood as the Black Phone. I
wouldn't say I was disappointedin it, but the Black Phone, I
(04:14):
think, is, is a masterpiece. Ione thing about Black Phone 2,
if you I watched the Black Phonethe night before I watched Black
Phone. And you really need tohave, not just have seen but
have to freshly seen the BlackPhone in order to fully
appreciate Black Phone 2,because it, it leans really
(04:37):
heavily on the first movie, youknow, like the mythology. So you
it, it doesn't really spoon feedyou what happened in the movie
before you have to already know.
So luckily, most people who areinterested in Black Phone 2
probably have already seen BlackPhone, so
Jacob Davidson (04:54):
it's, well, I mean, you kind of have to see
the first Black Phone in orderto see the Black Phone 2. It's a
progressive i.
James Jay Edwards (05:00):
Yeah, yeah.
But I'm saying, you know, if youyou need to kind of have it
fresh in your head, you know.
But I mean, if, if you're intothe Black Phone, I mean, it is a
good, logical next step, and italmost seems like they're trying
to franchise the grabber,because, you know, even though
(05:21):
you know, another spoiler alert,you know, they defeat him again
this time. But did they, youknow? I mean, he's more of a
supernatural entity now, and notlike a he's not like Buffalo
Bill, he's like Freddy Kruegernow. So, you know, will he be
back again? Yeah, exactly, yeah,so, and, you know, honestly, I'm
(05:44):
fine with it. I mean, he's, thething is, it's Ethan Hawke
again. But aside from his voice,you can't really tell, because
when parts of the mask come off,they have this massive makeup
job underneath it. That is like,because he's dead, you know, so
he's a corpse, yeah, yeah, he's,he's like Jason in Part Six, you
(06:07):
know? He's like, So, but, yeah,it's a,
Jacob Davidson (06:10):
it's cool. I really, I really liked it. I had
a good time with it, and Ithought that their spin on the
sequel was pretty fun, like atthe Q A for beyond fest. C
Robert Cargill, the writer wassaying that Joe Hill was the one
(06:31):
who kind of gave them theinspiration for the sequel, and
saying, like, what if thegrabber called Finney from hell?
And it just kind of went fromthere. And, yeah, I had a fun
time with it too. Like it didkind of feel like the logical
progression from the original,especially with the character
arcs, and, you know, kind ofadding the even more
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supernatural elements with thegrabber being a ghost himself
this time. And I'd still arguethat Black Phone 2 is pretty
scary. Like, again, you have theNightmare in Elm Street ish
sequences. Like, there, there'ssome pretty intense seeds where
the grabber is attacking peoplewhile they're sleeping. But
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also, like, he's kind of aninvisible ghost, so he can just,
like, fuck people up, and theywon't even know where he's
coming from.
James Jay Edwards (07:23):
Derekson plays with typical, like, horror
camera tropes a lot like, youknow, he does that thing where,
like, the camera will move andand as it moves to the other
side of the character, therewill be, you know, like a dead
kid or the grass, you know, youit will reveal something. But
then there's a couple times hedoes that when you're expecting
it to be there and it's not, andyou're like, oh, okay, now I see
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where you're, you're setting usup. I mean, he's, he's, he's a
master. He's one of those lowkey masters where, like, um, you
know, he doesn't get mentionedin the same breath as, like,
Flanagan or Jordan Peele oranything, but Scott
Derrickson's. He's one of the upand comers too, you know? I
mean, if you can call him up andcoming
Jacob Davidson (08:05):
because he's, he's been at it since
James Jay Edwards (08:09):
Sinister, yes, like 15 years ago.
Jacob Davidson (08:12):
Yeah, yeah. I was also gonna say Exorcism of
Emily Rose, yeah. But no, he's,he's been very consistently
good, especially in that regard.
So, yeah, no, he's, he's solid.
James Jay Edwards (08:22):
He took a he took a detour to do Doctor
Strange, but,
Jacob Davidson (08:27):
you know,
James Jay Edwards (08:29):
who didn't? I mean, that was the point where
Marvel was, was given every upand coming filmmaker, a movie,
you know? And some of it wasgood, some of it wasn't,
speaking of under the radarmovies, and this is kind of this
kind of jumping ahead, becausethis technically was a
Screamfest title, but I didn'tsee it on Screamfest. I saw it
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on paramount. Plus, have youguys seen Vicious? Oh my god,
Vicious it, first of all, it hasa terrible name, because it's so
generic that you I wish thatthey had named it better. This
is two of my favorite things,Brian Bertino, who did The
Strangers and The Dark and TheWicked and The Monster, and
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Dakota Fanning and this,basically, this is more Dark and
The Wicked than The Strangers.
But basically, this woman bringsthis box to Dakota Fanning,
knocks on her door and her wholethe beginning of her pitch is
you're gonna die unless you putthree things in this box,
something that you hate,something that you need and
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something that you love. So, youknow, Davison's like, okay,
whatever, you know. But then shestarts realizing, okay, there's
something to this, and, and, andif she fakes it and doesn't put,
you know, something that shereally hates or needs or
whatever, it won't take it. It'slike, you put it in the box, you
close it, and when you open itback up. And if. Thing is still
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there? Nope, try again. You knowyou're not actually there. And
at one point, like, the firstthing she puts in this box is
she puts her cigarettes in thereas something that she hates. And
at first I thought, I'm like,You know what? This is? Too soon
for this. Because I thought itcould that could theoretically
be all three, something you hatesomething you need, something
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you love. And you know, if itwas a short film, hey, game
over. But the box was like, tryagain. This isn't actually what
it is, and it leads her to somereally dark places to you know,
the things that this box wantsfrom her are pretty messed up,
but it is, it's, it's just sucha dirty little I mean, maybe
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it's not renamed, maybe it's notpoorly named because it's a
vicious movie, but I feel likethe name is so generic that it's
gonna get forgotten. You know,that's
Jonathan Correia (10:57):
better than calling it The Box, though,
that's even more generic anddone too. Yeah, I know Jacob and
I have been spending a lot oftime playing the same video
game. We've actually had it inour hands for a minute, but I've
I've already played throughonce, and currently playing
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through with Lindsay, the newdead reset from Wales
interactive, the company whodoes a lot of those kind of
choose your own adventure, askvideo games with live action,
which is right up our alley. Imean, we've already had choose
your own adventure on the showthis year, and we've talked
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about our love for night. Whatis it? Night fright? No, not
night fright. That oneinteractive game, anywho, Dead
Reset. What do you think, Jacob,I have, I'm having a lot of fun
with it. Yeah, I
Jacob Davidson (11:54):
thought it was a lot of fun. I haven't beaten it
yet, but I played for a bunch ofit. And, yeah, no, it is kind of
like what you were saying that.
It reminds me a lot of those oldFMV games. Oh, Night Trap. It
was the game was Night Trap,yeah, but yeah, no, it's
basically like you're playing amovie, so like you do all these
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different choices, and it playsall these different scenes that
could affect the outcome of thegame. It's, it does really get
you into into the game.
Jonathan Correia (12:24):
Yeah, if you guys don't know about Dead
Reset, it's, first of all, it's,it's all it is, like a movie you
have actual actors. It's, you'rethat we're playing out the
scenes, and the story followsCole Mason and asthmatic, not
asthmatic, amnesic surgeon who'strapped in a time loop. And
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basically, when he comes to thefirst time they're like, You
need to perform surgery on thiswoman and hold him at like
gunpoint. And when he does,there's like, a an alien
creature thing inside of her.
And the choices you make, canrestart the time loop or
progress a story. It alldepends, and there's information
revealed depending on yourchoice, and also your choices
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influence how people react toyou and interact with you. It's
really interesting. Lindsey, andI love playing these type of
games. We play the quarry anduntil dawn often. And sometimes,
with those games, they put toomuch interaction into it. And so
it kind of like takes, takes youout of the story a little bit,
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because it's, there's timeswhere it's like, Oh, you got to
run. You got to run. But also,kind of want to a character
hasn't died in a while. I kindof want to make this choice, you
know. And so it's, it's nice tokind of have it be boiled down
to choose one or the otherchoice. But there still be so
many branches. I can't imaginehow many times they re shot.
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Scenes for this like, I want tosee what the map of footage is,
because it's insane the amountof like, choices and branches
you can do by making these twochoices, and still have, like,
all this influence on the game,on how it plays out. But it's
it's a lot of fun, and it'sbloody too.
Jacob Davidson (14:13):
Yeah. No, there are a lot of extremely violent
deaths and creature effects andcreature effects that kill
people in really gory ways. Soit is definitely horror. Even
has a honestly, kind of has abit of a Dead Space vibe to it.
And, you know, they do a lotwith a little,
Jonathan Correia (14:31):
yeah, no, it's, it's, it's a lot of fun.
We're doing a play through rightnow where Lindsey and I take
turns making the choices, andit's, and I like doing that,
because it's, it's fun to belike, Wait, well, wait, I
wouldn't have done that. What doyou why did you do that?
Jacob Davidson (14:48):
So I'm sure it shakes things up.
Jonathan Correia (14:51):
Yeah, so Dead Reset. It's, it's a lot of fun,
and it's available on just aboutevery platform I know. Jacob and
I were playing on PlayStation 4.
But It's also on Steam, nextgens, all of them. So check it
out.
Jacob Davidson (15:05):
Oh yeah, it's everywhere. Cool.
James Jay Edwards (15:08):
Another thing that I saw, which I am not sure
if I'm breaking embargo or not,but I don't care. I'm going to
talk about it. I sawFrankenstein, the new Guillermo
del Toro,
Jacob Davidson (15:21):
yeah, I'll be seeing that in a few hours.
James Jay Edwards (15:24):
I'll be interested to see what you think
of it. It is long, and it feelslong, that's the thing. It's two
and a half hours, and it feels,it feels like four hours. It's a
beautifully made movie, whichyou would expect from Guillermo
del Toro, but I feel like thereneeded to be an edit in there
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somewhere, because it is.
There's not really dead space.
But there I had issues with thepacing. There are lulls in what
goes on. And you're like, youknow they you know this, this
meeting could have been an emailkind of a thing. It's more. I
mean, he took some libertieswith the book. But the monster,
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which is Jacob elordi, he, um,the monster is more. It is more
like the book than we're used toseeing, because the monster is
actually, he's, he's kind ofintelligent. He's, he's like a
he's like a child. You knowwhere, like he gets born, and
then you've got to, then he's,he's learning things. And as he
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learns, he gets more and morecognizant and and he realizes
that that basically VictorFrankenstein, who's Oscar Isaac,
is was playing God when Hecreated him, and he kind of
resents him for it. So it's alittle bit of, you know,
philosophy there, but it's, Imean it, it's kind of a double
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edged sword, because it's areally well made movie, but the
pacing is, I mean, it's glacialin places, which is kind of
funny, because there's a lot of,there's a lot of ice in the
movie, but it, um, but, yeah,it's, it's, it's, it's
definitely a GDT movie visually,because, You know, it's kind of
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got that steampunk thinghappening, and, yeah, it's an
experience. I'm hoping that forawards voting, Netflix usually
sends out these big boxes fullof swag with their movies, and
I'm hoping I get one forFrankenstein. I'm hoping there's
some good stuff that comes. Iwill trade. I will trade my
coffee table book of theIrishman and Roma for for one,
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about the art of Frankenstein,because I think it's going to be
a pretty cool, it would be acool coffee table book, but,
yeah, it's, um, I'll beinterested to see what you think
of it, Jacob, because I thinkthat you're gonna like it, but
I'm wondering if you're going tohave the same issues with pacing
as I had.
Jacob Davidson (18:03):
Well, I'll see how it shakes out. But yeah, no,
I'm literally seeing it in justa few hours over at the Egyptian
but no, I've been very excitedfor this, like I know Guillermo
del Toro is a massiveFrankenstein fan, to the point
where, when I was visiting hisexhibit at the LACMA museum that
he actually owns an originalfirst edition copy of Mary
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Shelley's Frankenstein.
Jonathan Correia (18:28):
Wow, that's insane. Yeah, that's awesome.
Jacob Davidson (18:33):
That thing's gonna be worth a fortune. Is it
signed?
James Jay Edwards (18:36):
That would be incredible. Yeah, you can tell
that he has a respect for thestory, even though there are
some liberties taken with it.
You can tell that he's and hewasn't setting out to make a
pure horror movie like JamesWhale was with his with the
original Frankenstein. You know,it's more of like a gothic tale
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with horror elements. It's, it'sit's not particularly scary,
but, you know, it's, it's more,it's kind of like what Shape of
Water was for Creature from theBlack Lagoon. This is for
Frankenstein, you know, it's,except it's not modern. It is.
It's a period piece, but, but,you know, it's kind of like, you
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know that all the themes and themain skeleton of the story are
there, but it is a it's, it's, Imean, it's, I struggle with it,
because it's a beautifully mademovie, but there were parts of
it when I was just looking at mywatch, going, okay, you know,
can can we get to some morestuff happening?
Jonathan Correia (19:38):
I mean, it sounds more like in tune with
what the actual book is.
Because, I mean, the originalbook is more Gothic tale and,
like, ideology. I mean, there'sentire chunks of it where it's
Adam, the creature, just droningon and on, which is great, but
if you're doing that, yeah, he
James Jay Edwards (19:57):
does that. He it's almost like. It. There are
something because it's dividedinto A into two, Victor's tale,
and then the creature's tale.
And at one point, becauseVictor's tale tells like the
creation of it, and then when,when it escapes, and you want to
know what it's been doing, untilthe whole thing is told in
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flashback. At the very beginningof it, there's this ship that's
like iced in, and the crew istrying to free the ship. And
then they see off in thedistance there's a fire. So they
go and investigate, and theyfind Victor, and they bring him
back to the boat. But as they'rebringing him back to the boat,
the creature is like attackingthem, because the creature wants
Victor. So they get him on theboat, and he tells his story,
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and then the creature shows up,and because all he wants is
Victor, he doesn't want to hurtthese sailors, even though he is
because he's trying to get toVictor, or to, yeah, because
he's trying to get to Victor. Sowhen he gets there, he's like,
Okay, let me tell you my sidenow, you know so and he is very
wordy and articulate, which is,you know, something a lot of
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people don't know, Frank thatthe Frankenstein's monster is
because he, you know, he has abrain, but it's like a child,
and he has to learn. But thereare times when you're just like,
pining for the James WhaleFrankenstein. You're like, Oh,
dude, shut up, and let's get onwith this movie. Because he
talks, you know, he talks a lot,but
Jonathan Correia (21:25):
that's the book. Yeah, exactly. I Yeah. I'm
looking forward to, after acentury of quiet, Adam, I'm
looking I'm looking forward tothe droning, one, one thing.
Well, I should say two things,because these are both shorts,
but it's kind of the state ofthe industry right now. There's
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two horror shorts that werereleased that have major
advertisement tie in with it.
One is, have you guys seenFruithead?
Jacob Davidson (21:55):
Oh, yeah, I saw it. The gushers commercial
horror short,
Jonathan Correia (22:01):
Bradley, Whitford, so if you guys don't
recall, there was these gusherscommercials in the 90s where
kids would eat a gusher, andtheir head would turn into fruit
and they'd go, Radical! And sogushers commissioned a like 10
minute short film where BradleyWoodford plays the director of
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those commercials, and he'slike, I needed to be more, more
realistic, more so he uses aspell book to cast to craft this
gusher that actually turns achild's head into the fruit
head, and which leads to thishorrific scene of this kid
eating and then going, Oh,what's happening? It's not
right. And you see BradleyWoodford with, like, his little
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fucking terrible facial hair andponytail like typical director
look stereotype the 90s. Andhe's like, that's not the line
as, like the kid screaming ashis head starting into fruit.
And then one of the designerscomes up and goes, Hey, art
department just did this withthis new thing called CGI. He
goes, Oh, that's great. Let's dothat instead. And then, years
later, the kid comes back toseek his revenge on Bradley
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Whitford with the Fruithead. Ithought it was a lot of fun. I
mean, it's, it's a 10 Minutecommercial production, but it
also it feels, it feels like,like one of those, like, Too
Many Cooks type things whereit's like, hey, remember this
nostalgic thing? Well, wetwisted it and are having fun
with it. But it, it wascommissioned by Gushers, which I
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think is, is fun. It's a funthing to for them to put money
in. What do you think, Jacob?
Jacob Davidson (23:37):
I thought it was really funny, because, you know,
especially for like, the stuffis trying to be scary and
playing all these tropes. It'sat the end of the day, like you
said, it's a gushers commercial.
So it is just such an absurdityto it that even though it's kind
of disturbing, it's also reallyfunny, because, yeah, it is
playing off of that nostalgia.
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And again, just a crazy asssituation with, yeah, the kid
who got his head gushered Goingfull The Strangers on Bradley
Whitford did his Hollywoodmansion. It's just so funny.
Jonathan Correia (24:13):
It's, it's so good. There's, like, some weird
stuff where Bradley whitfordscharacters like struggling to
eat fruit, and he's got gloveson and stuff like, it gets real
weird, and I appreciate thatthey, they really went for it.
And, like, the entire time, itdoes have that layer of, like,
gushers paid for this. Thisisn't like, Yeah, this isn't
like, someone like that, thatother fake commercial thing
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where it's the kids turninginto, like, the silver stuff in
the from the Capri Suncommercials, that horrific
internet video. But yeah, theythey really went for it. So
yeah, it's a lot of fun. It's onYouTube. Highly recommend it.
It's 10 minutes. It's a funtime. The other one that I
watched was Sweet Revenge, whichis also available on YouTube.
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It's a it's the first thing madeout of the Jason universe,
because I guess they sorted outthe rights with Jason, and now
they launched a whole thingcalled the Jason universe. And
the first thing they made is a16 minute Friday, the 13th short
film. It's directed by Mike PNelson, who did the Wrong Turn
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reboot a few years ago, and alsodid one of the V/H/S/99 or
sorry, VHS 8980 that 85 V/H/S/85titles, and it was done in
partnership with Angry Orchard.
And it definitely was made inpartnership with Angry Orchard.
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It's not like they were, like,super egregious with, like,
showing, like, oh man, you know,like, it's a group of, it's,
it's, it's a Friday 13 story,group of teenagers go to Camp
Crystal Lake for vacation, andJason crashes the party. There
was really interestingimplication, or, like, how do I
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say there was really interestingways that they incorporated the
angry orchard brand. There'slike, some really weird bits
with like the people who own thecabin and apples, that was like
weird and uncomfortable. Andthen, of course, whenever
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they're partying, they'redrinking angry orchard. But
outside of being a commercial,because it is at the end of the
day, angry orchard paid for it,I thought it was incorporated
pretty well that it wasn'tdistracting. But as a as a Jason
short, it it feels like a fanfilm. And I don't know if it's
just because it's as like areintroduction to this iconic
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character, or the fact thatwe've seen so many fan films
come out over the years whilethe rights issues were being
resolved, but as like a as likea Jason shows up and kills a
bunch of campers. It's a funtime. I was really surprised on
how the score was. It's very80s, very all that. And did have
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kind of a moment of like, whenare you going to do it? When are
you going to do the Kiki mamastuff, and when it and when it
happens, it's the right moment.
So it's, it's a lot of fun that116's minutes. Hey, you got a
half hour. You can watch both ofthese. But they're both
interesting because it's kind ofwhere the industry is now. No
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one's wanting to pay foranything district, at least on
the distributor sides of things.
And so I think we're going to beseeing a lot more of this kind
of sponsored content being moreintegrated into the stories and
everything. And you know,there's some pros and cons to
that, but if at the end of theday, having angry orchard be
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incorporated into Friday the13th leads to more. Jason kills
I'm okay with it. Always downfor more.
Jacob Davidson (28:08):
Jason, yeah, and it sounds like we'll be getting
more of him in due time.
Jonathan Correia (28:13):
Yeah. I just, I need a Friday the 13th. Friday
13th feature, like, just do it.
Do it, you cowards.
James Jay Edwards (28:24):
One thing that we have all been kind of
watching, and I alluded to alittle bit earlier with Vicious
is that scream fest is it's thattime of year again, and we have
all been kind of flooded. Ishould say, in fact, this is
probably a part one of two,because I know I'm not talk
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about, yeah, I there's a lot totalk about and a lot to watch.
And I know that I'm not through,I'm not through even half of the
Jacob Davidson (28:56):
screens that we got. So we have a wealth of
movies to choose from. Yeah,it's such
Jonathan Correia (29:02):
a, such a first world problem. Oh, no, we
have too many horror movies towatch and review.
Jacob Davidson (29:07):
Yeah,
James Jay Edwards (29:08):
but let's start off with Dead by Dawn.
Yes, you guys get to this.
Jacob Davidson (29:13):
Yes, I did get I didn't get to that one. This is
Jacob.
James Jay Edwards (29:17):
I was gonna say, I want to hear what you
think of this, Jacob, becausethis movie has you written all
over it.
Jacob Davidson (29:24):
Okay, Dead, by Dawn. I will put a pin in that.
James Jay Edwards (29:27):
Yeah, let's this movie is, I mean, this,
it's like, it's almost like agiallo but, but it's more my, I
don't know. It's weird. It's,like, got that. It's shot like a
giallo, but it has a more modernkiller, I feel like, and I
loved, Where have I seen thatkiller design? The killer is
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like, where's this mask of like,all these eyeballs, and it looks
so familiar. Where have I seenthat before?
Jonathan Correia (29:58):
So for some context. Is Dead by Don's a
Polish film, and it's aboutthese group of young actors who
are summoned to a theater tobring this, like avant garde,
like dance play, to life, andthere's a killer on the loose in
the theater, and
James Jay Edwards (30:15):
theater is cursed. The theater is like,
yeah,
Jonathan Correia (30:20):
it was, it's one of those, like, this
building was built for ritualsand, like, all this stuff. And,
like, it's the killer, yeah, ithas this mask, and it's covered
in eyeballs, which is very, Istill haven't seen it. It's,
I've owned, like, three copies,but delirium, I think it's
called where it's has theperson, where the head is one
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giant eyeball. That's what itkept reminding me of, at least,
James Jay Edwards (30:44):
well, that's the residents, the that band,
the residents
Jonathan Correia (30:48):
Yeah, or the residents
James Jay Edwards (30:50):
Yeah. What it reminded me of is, what was
that? Channel Zero, not ChannelZero, that that creepy pasta TV
show where Channel Zero, but,but the was that the citizen
that had the teeth
Jacob Davidson (31:05):
guy, yeah, zero, with Candle Cove,
James Jay Edwards (31:09):
yeah, yeah, yeah, the Candle Cove, the the
teeth guy, it reminded me of theteeth guy, but with eyeballs.
That's why. Yeah, it's, it'sreally but, but I've seen that
somewhere before, and I can'tput my finger on the whole time,
I was like, Where, what is thatmask referencing? But, yeah,
this, this movie, um, it goespretty, you know what? All of
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the ScreamFest that I've watchedso far, they all go really hard,
like, hard, yeah, dude, there,yeah, there are entrails over
these movies, and this one is noexception. These kills are
bloody and brutal, which is morethe giallo thing, I think, but
it, yeah, this is
Jonathan Correia (31:52):
a dip by Don was a lot
Jacob Davidson (31:54):
of fun, dude. I gotta watch that one. I'm
putting it on my, on my to watchlist,
James Jay Edwards (31:59):
yeah, moving up to the front. This is very
much your shit.
Jonathan Correia (32:02):
This is, it's, it's like, the first two thirds
of it is very, I kind of want tosay it's like post nu metal
cinema, gialla slasher. And thenthe third act just goes
absolutely bonkers, because it'salmost like, because this whole
time, because, you know, and wesay gialla lot, because there's
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a lot of color with thelighting, a lot of, like, very
stylized with it, and, you know,black glove killer and all that.
And then, like, the third act,it's almost like the movie
remembers, oh yeah, all thatritual shit that we set up early
in the movie. Let's get intothat. And when it does, that's
when it really hooked me. I waslike, Oh, we're getting into
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what I really want and love outof this stuff. And yeah, it goes
for it's a lot of fun. I thoughtit was really interesting,
especially incorporating thestuff of the on avante garde
play dance into the final actthat the actors were doing
earlier in the film. I thoughtwas really cool and interesting.
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Very, very much. So invokeSupiria a bit with that. So,
yeah, it's, it's a, it's a, it'sa nasty little movie, and I had
a lot of fun with it.
Jacob Davidson (33:16):
I'll have to check that out on my end. Did
either of you guys see Big Baby.
Jonathan Correia (33:22):
No, that's on my watch list. Yeah. Okay,
Jacob Davidson (33:26):
yeah. Now, this one was a lot of fun. I was
drawn to it specifically becauseit's the latest film from spider
one who some of you may know asRob Zombie's brother, but who's
been making a lot of horrormovies the last several years
like his most recent one wasLittle Bites, which was produced
by Cher, because Chaz Bono wasinvolved as the producer and
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actor. And it's the same withthis one. The big baby was
produced by Cher, and also costars Chaz Bono, and I think
this might be spider one thebest movie yet. Yeah, so
basically, it's about thishorror screen writer who just
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had a movie out. Forget thename, but it was like this
werewolf movie, but like that,he had to deal with the fallout,
because, like all these horrorpodcast douchebag, they're
shitting on his movie. And whatreally gets him is like one of
them tells him to kill himself,and he goes into kind of a
depressive spiral with hisgirlfriend, and then he starts
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getting these nightmares at thestroke of inspiration about this
giant, a hulking dude with agiant with a screaming baby mask
called Big Baby, and talkingabout how he's going to kill all
the people who did him wrong.
And he starts writing thescript, and he and he, and he
thinks that it's his best workyet. But then he starts seeing
(34:56):
big baby in real life, and hestarts seeing the. Murders as
though they're real, so becausekind of a meta fictional slasher
movie situation and, but yeah,there's a lot of gore, and,
yeah, it it's a lot of fun, andit does kind of play with a lot
of the horror tropes and even alot of kind of horror community
(35:19):
and the current landscape ofhorror media and reviews, so I
thought it was very fascinatingin that regard. Yeah, no, I do
highly recommend it
Jonathan Correia (35:33):
nice adding that to the top of my list.
Another one that I think isright up Jacob's Alley is Dooba
Dooba, Have either of you DoobaDooba, Did either of you watch
Dooba Dooba? See that one yet?
Oh, man, Dooba Dooba. It's agreat title. Dooba Dooba is.
It's an analog horror film. Ithink there's going to be a lot
(35:57):
of people comparing it toSkinamarink because of its
analog nature, it's not asethereal, I want to say, as
Skinamarink. Skinamarink wasdefinitely, I don't know that
was on like another plane ofexistence, but Dooba Dooba, it
follows this babysitter who'shired to watch over this 16 year
(36:18):
old, which already is, like,that's a bit too old to have a
babysitter, and it's as as thenight goes on. You know, more is
revealed on, like, whathappened. So like the 16 year
old, the reason why she'sgetting a babysitter is because
she's still reeling from herbrother being killed while she
was in the same room as him, andso the family have all these
(36:43):
CCTV cameras all over the house,and it's too many cameras, I
would say, with, because thefilmmakers definitely were like,
All right, that's the premise.
That's the reason why it looksand is the way it is. But like,
those cameras were everywhere,and such weird angles in usage
(37:04):
with it, which I love becauseit's like, oh yeah, let's, let's
give you barely enoughinformation on why it looks or
give it enough justification forthe look and placement of this.
But they just went crazy withit, and I loved it. There's also
a lot of like, weird andinteresting cut ins with, like,
what looked like early Microsoftmovie editing, with like,
(37:26):
transitions and stuff and like,it's like, you're watching the
tapes just like, record out. Andso there's random inserts of,
like, you know, TV, like,presidential stuff. I don't know
it's really weird. It's veryatmospheric with its analog
(37:46):
nature. And I had no idea whereit was going for most of the
movie, which I which I enjoyed,because I was like, I don't know
what's about to happen next, orwhat, where is this going? And
it's a, it's a fun little nastynumber. So yeah, Dooba Dooba
Jacob again, I think it's, it'sright up your alley, because it,
it really does give that, like,SOV feeling of like that kind of
(38:09):
punk rock nature that comes withlike, SOV Horror.
James Jay Edwards (38:15):
cool another one that I watched that I and
I'm, I'm gonna butcher. Thisname, it's from the Netherlands.
It's Vleesdag. It translates toMeat Day. And it is about this,
this, this revolutionary groupwho they're like animal
(38:37):
activists. And they go to thispig farm, and they they want to
go and release all these pigs.
They want to liberate the pigs,but the owners of the pig farm
are tipped off to the fact thatthey're coming, so when they
show up there, there are nopigs, and they kind of went into
a trap, you know. So it's kindof like you have the animal
(38:57):
activists against theslaughterhouse. It's a family
owned slaughterhouse, andhonestly, neither side. There
are really no heroes in thismovie. Both sides kind of come
off as assholes. So and youknow, like Dead by Dawn, there's
a lot of just entrails spilledall over the place. And it's,
(39:21):
there's one scene in it that isvery reminiscent of Apaches.
You'll, you'll, you'll know whenyou see it. Correia, but yeah,
it's, it is, is there's justlike blood and guts and gore
(39:42):
spilled all over the place. And,I mean, I guess one of the
animal activist girls is kind ofthe heroine, but even she's not
that likable, you know, you're,you're, you're not really
rooting for her to die, butyou're, but you don't care. You
know, you. You, you kind of arelike, okay, you know, let's see,
you know, on to the next one.
(40:04):
Let's see some people die. Butit's, it has kind of a Hostel
vibe in more ways than one.
There's, like, in fact, there'sa couple places we were talking
about Black Phone 2, you know,channeling Nightmare on Elm
Street. There's a couple placeswhere this actually, I think,
channels Hostel. I think thefilmmakers, they had to have
been aware of theHostelreferences to this. But
(40:26):
yeah, it was a, it's Vleesdag orsomething. It translates to meat
Jonathan Correia (40:33):
day. Is it meat day or Meat Kills? Meat
James Jay Edwards (40:36):
day is what the subtitles said. But I think
in IMDb, it's Meat Kills. So Idon't know. I don't, although I
should know Dutch by now,because another one of the
movies I watched Jimmy. Have youguys gotten to Jimmy? No,
Jonathan Correia (40:51):
no, that one came in when I was like, I don't
have enough time to watchanother screener.
James Jay Edwards (40:55):
But yeah, really well, Jimmy is really
short too. It's like 80 minutesor something like that. Jimmy is
another one from theNetherlands, and there's this,
this guy named Jimmy, who wentto a mental, a mental asylum,
and he killed himself and all ofhis, all of the his schoolmates,
and, you know, friends who,quote, friends who kind of drove
(41:18):
him crazy. Are they start, youknow, dying in horrible ways. So
it's kind of a slasher movie.
But again, all three of thesemovies that that I have watched
so far, they're really brightand neon. I'm wondering if
that's like a trend from fromthese eastern European, you
know, or northern Europeancountries now, because Poland
and the Netherlands. We'regetting these, like, bright neon
(41:41):
colored movies coming out ofthere. But yeah, Jimmy is and
again, Jimmy goes hard. There'sthese movies the shit, and maybe
it's just the three that I'vehappened to watch so far. They
spare no expense on the effects,and they look like they're all
(42:03):
practical, which is beautiful,you know. I mean, they're, when
they cut someone open and theirintestines spill out, you know,
you're you can tell that thatblood's really running down that
actor. It's pretty good.
Jonathan Correia (42:17):
Oh no, I love it. Because I was just the other
day bitching about how we don'tlight movie, we don't light
things anymore. We don't, youknow, it's, it's all kind of
that digital post whereeverything's too dark,
especially when it comes tohorror. And so it's, it's really
refreshing being able to seethings happen, and not only just
(42:38):
see things happen, but likepeople kind of going back to
that, like, stylized, like, youknow what? It can be bright as
fuck at night, and you stillregisters in your in like, the
viewers bring that it'snighttime. Like, it's okay to
see everything, guys, we stillknow it's nighttime. Like, come
on,
Jacob Davidson (42:55):
better to see more than to see nothing.
Jonathan Correia (42:58):
Yeah, but yeah, so far, like the scream
fest, titles that I've seen haveall been bangers and nasty
little fuckers, and I'm having alot of fun. So yeah, we'll
definitely be reviewing a lotmore over the next few episodes.
James Jay Edwards (43:13):
Nasty is the perfect word for them, because,
yeah, they these movies are alljust yeah, they're
Jacob Davidson (43:21):
should be called gore fest, even, even
James Jay Edwards (43:24):
Vicious. You know which it technically, it's
a Screamfest title that'sparamount. Plus that one goes
pretty hard to like I say it'smore Dark and The Wicked than
the strangers, and I'm going toleave it at that, but, but if
you've seen dark and the wickedwhen you're watching the
vicious, you'll know exactly,why, absolutely.
Jacob Davidson (43:42):
And as an aside, I did actually attend ScreamFest
in person for a day, and I wentto a demo, or like demo video of
the new Hellraiser game,Hellraiser revival. Have you
guys heard about it?
Jonathan Correia (43:58):
Is it? Is it another 4v one game? Because
they've been doing that a
Jacob Davidson (44:01):
lot. No, no, no, no. It's not, not like that.
Okay, yeah, no, it's a oneperson game, and it's kind of a
direct continuation ofHellraiser. And Clive Barker
actually co wrote the videogame, and Doug Bradley is back
voicing pin head, and it doeslook very interesting. Again,
they showed, like the first halfhour of gameplay footage, where
(44:23):
it's basically, you're this guywho's in a BDSM relationship
with this woman who has foundthe puzzle box, and mid coitus,
she opens the puzzle box. And asthese things tend to happen, the
cetabytes show up and take herinto the labyrinth. And you
start showing up in thelabyrinth, and it's just well,
(44:44):
because, like the first 10 or 15minutes of game, you're naked
and running around the labyrinthfrom Hellraiser two, and you're
seeing like the engineer, andsometimes the cetabytes pop up.
But then it does do aninteresting twist. Said that you
go back to the real world, youkind of go back and forth where,
it turns out, she stole thepuzzle box from this cult that
(45:06):
worships the Cenobites and arelike sadomasochistic freaks who
like to torture people and gettortured. So there is some
action elements and some peopleyou could actually fight. So you
got to, like, fight your waythrough these guys in the
underground torture club, butthen you also sometimes end up
back in the labyrinth, and thereis kind of an extended, not
(45:29):
really boss fight, but like,chase sequence, where chatterer,
the one with the teeth, youknow, is coming after you, and
you're running through thelabyrinth, but the lab group
keeps changing, and the chairteleports. You have to go back
and forth and back and forth,and it's very hectic. Yeah? So
it got just a taste of what thegame would be like, but it does
(45:50):
look like a lot of fun, and itlooks very disturbing and gory
as fuck. Yeah.
Jonathan Correia (45:54):
That's that's so interesting, because as soon
as they're like, Hellraisergame, it's like, well, how are
you going to do that? Is it justpuzzles. Because I don't know if
you guys remember the Saw videogames back in the day where it
was basically like, you know,the God of War button, you know,
timed thing. And, you know, it'salways tricky, because when
you're adapting like a horrormovie like that, the best parts
(46:16):
are the kills and but in a videogame, you're trying to avoid
being killed. But also,Hellraiser is very like, rich in
mythology, and like I You got mewith the story. That sounds
really cool and interesting, butI definitely, when they first
announced I was like, so is it a4v one thing? Is it a Doom type
game where you're fighting
Jacob Davidson (46:35):
thing, it's first person perspective. Also,
I compare it to like, ResidentEvil seven survival horror, but
first person and oh yeah, no,there's, there's death and gore
by the score, rest assured.
Jonathan Correia (46:47):
Yeah, I'm stoked. I know we got to go
soon, but I gotta, I gottamention Tron Ares before we dip
out. Oh yeah. Did either of youwatch it? Nah. So I would like
lifelong Tron fan. I definitelywent in going like, I just need
(47:08):
some Tron action. I need aslutty ass nine inch nail score.
And I need Gillian Anderson.
That's all I need, because I wasalready, you know, not looking
forward to Jared Leto in it. AndI gotta say, it delivered on all
those it's very much so it's aTron movie, and almost every
respect of it good and bad, andit's absolutely serviceable.
(47:29):
It's fine. The problem is JaredLeto, not only him as a person,
but also just anyone. Could haveplayed that character. He was so
wooden and really just kind ofruined what was a perfectly fine
Tron movie. There's a reallycool sequence where they go into
(47:50):
Kevin Flynn's backup server,which is where you get your Jeff
Bridges cameo that they'veteased in the trailers and all
that. But the whole world is inthat classic, like the first
movie, very 80s, with thegraphics, and you have the one
bite character going, yes, no,and everything, and it's really
cool. And like, immediately Iwas like, All right, we're in
(48:13):
this. And then it just cuts backto Jared Leto, and he goes
classic. And it's just like,Come on, dude, there's a whole
thing where they're showing himkind of, like, develop feet, or
like, talk about having feelingswhich programs shouldn't have,
and he's talking about DepecheMode, and how he loves Depeche
Mode, and how it's giving himfeelings. And I've never heard
(48:34):
someone describe their favoriteband and what it does to them
emotionally so cold and wooden,it immediately filled me with
rage. I was like, take Depechemodes. Name out your mouth.
Like, don't, don't try to ruinit. And the second time they
did, I just full, full on, threwmy arms up in the air. Was just
like, fuck off. But yeah, I haveto say, not since West Side
(48:58):
Story was like a lead actor somiscasted and just completely
derailed. What otherwise wouldhave been totally just a fun
movie, you know. So, yeah, TronAres. I mean, it's serviceable,
but Jared little really fuckingruined it cool.
James Jay Edwards (49:17):
And on that note, we're gonna get out of
here more scream fest to come.
Like I said, this was a parttwo. There might even be a three
parter, because there's
Jacob Davidson (49:26):
a flood of stuff, so much ground to cover,
so many Gores, so little time.
James Jay Edwards (49:29):
Yes, yes, so much blood, so little time. But
for now, we're going to leaveyou. So our theme song is by
restless spirits, so go checkthem out. And our artwork is by
Chris Fisher, so go check himout. And you can check us out on
all the socials at eye on horroror@ihorror.com which is the site
we call home. And we will seeyou in a couple weeks with more
(49:52):
screen fest. And I think we gota cool interview coming up, but
I don't want to jinx it, so I'mnot going to say more, but yeah,
stay tuned. We got good. Stuffcoming up, and everybody go see
black phone too. So for me,James Jay Edwards,
Jacob Davidson (50:06):
I'm Jacob Davison.
Jonathan Correia (50:06):
I'm Jonathan Correia.
James Jay Edwards (50:08):
Keep your eye on. Horror.
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