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James Jay Edwards (00:25):
Welcome to
Eye On Horror, the official
podcast of ihorror.com this isepisode 138 otherwise known as
season seven, Episode 19. I amyour host, James Jay Edwards,
and with me, as always, is yourother host, Jacob Davison, how
you doing? Jacob,
Jacob Davidson (00:40):
doing well. And
reporting from Connecticut,
visiting family.
James Jay Edwards (00:45):
Have you been
to Gloucester?
Jacob Davidson (00:46):
Look for I did
my usual tour. I went to
Gloucester to see my dad and thesea monster, and then went up to
Connecticut to see the other,other side of my family, and
went to the archive and got ahall that I'll be talking about.
I
James Jay Edwards (01:02):
was gonna
say, I sure we're gonna hear
about the pilgrimage to thearchive. Oh yeah. Also with us,
as always, is your other otherhost. Jon Correia, how you
doing? Correia,
Jonathan Correia (01:11):
doing great.
Did my caffeine slash Metamucilmix, So I'm ready to go this
morning.
James Jay Edwards (01:17):
I have been
knee deep in awards, screeners
and screenings. But I, I justhave to talk about which we
teased last episode I sawNosferatu.
Jacob Davidson (01:30):
Oh boy, and
you hated it, right?
James Jay Edwards (01:32):
No, this is,
this is a beautiful movie. This
is, I mean it Robert Eggers isa, is about as pure of an auteur
as you're gonna find today. Youknow, you know, between like The
VVitch and The Lighthouse, andThe Northman, and this is just
more of that. It's like there'sjust so much detail put into
this movie. And it's the storyof Nosferatu. So, you know, you
(01:55):
know, it's the Dracula story.
There are a few little creativechanges, you know, that he did
with it, but it sticks prettyclose to the story. But just
just the detail put like, everyframe of every shot of this
movie is just so beautiful.
It's, you know, it's just such awell made movie. Oh yeah, it's
(02:15):
so great in your boy Skarsgardis, he's a pretty, pretty
ferocious or lock you know,he's, he's making a name for
himself. William Defoe is, he'slike a clown. He's like the the
Van Helsing type character. He'slike the the vampire expert. And
(02:35):
he's just chewing every stick ofscenery around. And it's just,
you know, everyone else is beingreal serious. And then there's,
I think he's kind of becomeRobert Eggers not muse, but he's
his go to when he needs thatkind of a character, you know,
(02:56):
like that. The why just spillyour beans kind of go. And I
it's pretty he's, he's a heplays a very pivotal role in it,
because if you're familiar withNosferatu, you know that the
real hero is the wife and WillemDafoe character, kind of, he
(03:18):
kind of enables her to do herthing by distracting everyone
else, but it's it, oh Nosferatuis beautiful. It's going to end
up on, I wouldn't be surprisedif it's on all three of our top
10s. It's, I'm pretty sure it'sgoing to be on mine, you know,
because we're getting so closeto the end. But right?
Jacob Davidson (03:37):
And let me just
ask one thing on a scale of one
to 10. How horny was it?
James Jay Edwards (03:44):
I maybe,
maybe a six. It's not super
horny.
Jacob Davidson (03:49):
That's what I
heard. It's,
James Jay Edwards (03:51):
you know,
it's, I mean, obviously it's,
it's a Dracula story. So it'skind of, you know, but honestly,
orlock is not that sexy. So it,you know, it's, it's more like a
the draw of the vampire kind ofa thing, because he does beckon
to the the the Harker character,which is, his name is, is
(04:15):
Thomas. He's not JonathanHarker, but he his wife, which
is Lily Rose Depp. She is, youknow, she does have this draw to
orlock, but orlock is not he hasthis bushy mustache, which, I
mean, if you've read Dracula, itis, it is part of the character.
He in the book, he has amustache, but it is, uh, yeah. I
(04:39):
mean, I didn't really find itthat horny myself. But if we
want to talk horny, a couple ofother movies that I saw for
awards that neither of them arereally horror, so we don't want
to spend too much time. But A24has a pair of movies coming out
that if you want horny, you'llget horny. Um, one of them is.
(04:59):
Queer, which is the William SBurroughs adaptation that stars
Daniel Craig, and he's, he'squeer, and he becomes fixated on
this younger man, and that it'spretty graphic with, you know
what? It nice when it when itwas just a love story, I was
(05:21):
kind of into it, but then itgoes into this Apocalypse Now
Chapter A little later, thatkind of lost me. But I don't
know, people can draw their ownconclusions. But yeah, that one
is pretty horny. And then lastnight, I saw Babygirl with
Nicole Kidman.
Jacob Davidson (05:37):
Oh, that
Jonathan Correia (05:38):
one looks so
horny that is very,
James Jay Edwards (05:42):
very horny. I
mean, both of them are very
horny, but it just depends onwhat makes you horny. If you
like your guy on guy do Queer,if you like your you know, Guy
on girl do Babygirl.
Jonathan Correia (05:52):
And if you
like both good it's a great
double feature. There you get
James Jay Edwards (05:56):
it kind of
that's what I said to the rep.
They always ask us for reactionswhen we leave. That's why I said
to the rep, because they thesescreenings were on consecutive
days, you know? And I told therep, I'm like, Well, dude,
between between Queer andBabygirl. A24 has given us some
content this season.
Jonathan Correia (06:14):
Well, it's
just funny, because the trailers
for Queer aren't explicit, butthe ones for Babygirl are just
like, they basically showeverything up to it, it's, it's,
it's for Babygirl. It'sbasically like, you're gonna see
Nicole mid Nicole Kidman fuck.
And it's like, oh, MerryChristmas. Okay, yeah.
James Jay Edwards (06:36):
I mean it's,
the thing, is you, I mean, you
do, you do see Nicole Kidmanfuck, but, but there's other
stuff that, you know, becausethe whole thing is, she, you
know, and I don't want to gettoo into, I mean, although it
is, it's, it is adjacent,because it is kind of a, it
becomes kind of a stalkerthriller, not quite Fatal
Attraction level, but it isthat. But she winds up she's,
(06:59):
um, she's actually marriedAntonio Banderas in the movie,
which is weird, because you'relike, What woman would cheat on
Antonio Banderas? But, um, butshe ends up having an affair
with her intern at work, and,you know, he does things to her
that Antonio Banderas characterdoesn't, or can't, or, you know,
whatever. So you do get it's awhole lot of domination and
(07:22):
submission kind of stuff too.
So, yeah, you get to it'sdefinitely, you know, a friend
of mine joked that Nicole Kidmandoesn't do roles now, unless
they allow her to be naked init. You know,
Jonathan Correia (07:33):
I'm just
excited for whatever wig she's
wearing, because Nicole Kidmanhas been having the most amazing
wigs the last couple decades.
It's great. Don't think it's I
James Jay Edwards (07:43):
don't think
it's a wig because she spends
most of the movie with her hairtied up in like, like a bun,
because she's like, a businesswoman. She's like, the CEO of
this AI robotics company. Soyeah, I don't think it's a wig.
But anyway,
Jonathan Correia (07:58):
boo, AI
robotics.
James Jay Edwards (08:01):
No. Ai
robotics are not as bad as AI
content creation, but anyway,we're opening up a can that we
don't want to open. Sounds like
Jonathan Correia (08:09):
someone who's
secretly a robot would say,
What?
James Jay Edwards (08:13):
What? What?
What, what, what, what
Jonathan Correia (08:18):
we caught him.
James Jay Edwards (08:19):
So, what,
what do you guys been seeing
lately?
Jonathan Correia (08:22):
Well, did you
guys see Wicked yet?
James Jay Edwards (08:27):
Yeah, yes,
Jacob Davidson (08:28):
on Saturday with
the family.
James Jay Edwards (08:30):
Oh my gosh.
It's not super
Jonathan Correia (08:33):
horror, but so
it's not
James Jay Edwards (08:35):
super good
either. Oh,
Ryan Kruger (08:37):
I mean, I,
James Jay Edwards (08:38):
you know,
everybody is loving it. And then
I, and granted, I watched it ona screening link on my TV, so I
didn't get the theatricalexperience. But one thing that
you need to know that we do needto spoil, and this is in the
first, like, 10 minutes. It's apart one. Yeah, it's three hours
and for, uh, two hours and 40minutes, and it's part one. So
(08:58):
you have a little bit of thatDune, you know, shock at the
opening credit. But for me, itwas, it's just kind of all set
up. And no, I mean it, I guessit kind of resolves itself in
the end. But my biggest problemwith it, first of all, the good
Ariana Grande is great in it.
She's really good. The Bad, whatdid they do to the music?
(09:21):
Because the music in Wicked isactually really good. The songs
are really good, but in thismovie, they make it sound like
the way they produce the music.
It sounds like it's all the samesong, that they're just singing
different words over and I'mlike, What did you do to the
production of this music? Youknow you anyway. No, it was
(09:42):
frustrating for me, becauseeverybody's loving it. So I went
into it with kind of high hopes,but then, as I'm watching it, I
was, I was like, and then thelast 30 minutes I had so much
trouble getting through. I'mlike, okay, come on, you've gone
this far. We're gonna finish it.
Oh, anyway, what do you thinkCorreia?
Jonathan Correia (09:56):
I mean, I
enjoyed it. I definitely, uh.
Within, like, the first I wasvery confused in the very
beginning, because I was like,Wait, isn't this a prequel?
Wait, weren't they friends?
Wait, whose perspective are wehaving? But I think that was
just me. I also was like, reallyweirded out at the talking bear.
And I was like, There's talkinganimals in this. And it wasn't
until later, I was like, Oh,wait, cowardly lion and the
chicken in Return to Oz. Ibasically, I very quickly was
(10:19):
like, I don't know as much aboutthe world of Oz as I thought I
did, so I'm
James Jay Edwards (10:25):
gonna name my
next band, Dulce there. Yeah.
But
Jonathan Correia (10:29):
I actually
enjoyed it. I didn't know the
musical outside of snippets ofsongs, so I had a lot of fun
with it. I loved Ariana Grandewas tapping into like her Chanel
character in Scream Queens andjust being like the real jerk,
Cynthia was freaking amazing.
That would the most, the twomost, or the three most
frustrating things about themovie was a the color. I wish
(10:51):
they had gone for more vibrant,Technicolor look with it. I
understand they were trying togo for realism, but it's fucking
Oz so like, Go bright man, gobright as hell with the colors
that being said, the color ofalfalfa, alpha by There we go.
The Green for her makeup, Ithought was great, which was
(11:19):
also led to my frustration whenshe first shows up to the school
and everyone's like, Oh my gosh,she's hideous. I was like, What
are you talking about? She'sfucking gorgeous. Yeah,
James Jay Edwards (11:29):
like, and I
Yeah, they were trying to make a
point. Yeah, they were tryingto, like, give it some
commentary, but you're right. Iwas like, you know, no, hideous.
She looks great. Yeah. I even
Jonathan Correia (11:40):
asked the
people I went with, I'm like, is
it just because I'm a Trekkieand grew up with, like, Orions
and stuff like that, like, orwas she just, like, fucking
gorgeous? And they were like,no, no, she was hot. I was like,
okay, because that whole scene,I was like, Dude, shut up. She's
great,that. And also the made up
words, I that that was sofrustrated horror, but it is.
It's like, I that every timesomeone did that, I was just, it
(12:04):
just filled me with rage. Idon't know why, but it was,
again, it's part of the thing. Ireally, really liked the cameo
from the original. I know I likechannels and stuff.
James Jay Edwards (12:18):
Yeah, they
Adina Menzel and Kristin
Chenoweth are in it, and,
Jonathan Correia (12:24):
oh, and it's
not just a quick little cameo,
either. It's great.
James Jay Edwards (12:28):
I don't know
if we're supposed to spoil that
or not, but the movies been outfor for a week or so, so I guess
we can. Yeah,
Jacob Davidson (12:35):
although it's
funny, because while I haven't
seen the movie yet, I didactually see the original
production of wicked like 20years ago, when I was in high
school with Adina Menzel andKristin Chenoweth another thing
I did, like the original stageproduction on Broadway. So I was
interested in checking out theadaptation, because I mostly
heard good things, and it's got,like, a ridiculously high score
on Letterboxd. Yeah,
James Jay Edwards (12:56):
it's, it's
Act One, just so you know,
Jonathan Correia (13:00):
oh yeah.
James Jay Edwards (13:00):
I don't know
if you knew that going in, but
it's, yeah,
Jacob Davidson (13:03):
I do wicked part
one and basic, I guess it's kind
of the theater thing, where it'spart one, then we have a
considerably long intermission,and then part two comes out,
yep, a
Jonathan Correia (13:14):
year long
intermission. But yeah, if they
did weren't making a part two,it would just be, how did the
Wicked Witch of the East get herbroomstick. Yeah, but it's real
good. But I just want to take itback to to hornieness real
quick. Have you guys seen it?
Just dropped the other day on
Peacock, The (13:33):
The Untold Story.
James Jay Edwards (13:37):
No, is this a
drama or a documentary?
Jonathan Correia (13:40):
So it's a,
it's a three part documentary.
And it's, it's, you know, it'sabout the guy who started Girls
Gone Wild, the company. It'srise and fall and all that. And
it's, it's got a lot ofsimilarities to Quiet on set, in
that it's these reporters, andthey talk about their reporting
(14:00):
a lot, but it's done so muchbetter. Like Quiet on set came
off very exploitive of like thesubjects and the people. And
this one, it's it's just mainlythey really do give like the
women the chance to speak andreally talk about, like what
happened and how it happened andall these things. And it's
(14:22):
insane, dude, because basicallythe guy who founded Girls Gone
Wild is on the lamb in Mexico.
He He fled the country yearsago, and he doesn't really do
interviews, but five or so yearsago, he did an interview with
this woman for Buzzfeed. I thinkit was. And so she went down
there and she had a nine hourinterview where she recorded
(14:45):
audio, but no video for it, andthat was the backbone of the
Docu series, and her articlethat she wrote, which they do
address in the later one,because she wrote the article
and he emailed the the companyjust absolutely being like,
she's. Liar. She's a C word,blah, blah, blah, all the stuff.
That was a hit piece. And it'slike, this dude cannot, you
know, put himself in thatposition. But it's, it's so
(15:07):
insane, just like seeing also
James Jay Edwards (15:11):
she had nine
hours of audio. So how could he
deny what she said? Oh, unlessshe really did hit him in the in
the piece? No,
Jonathan Correia (15:19):
it's, it's,
you listen to the audio, this
guy contradicts the fact and hashis and spins his own narrative
like he even says multiple timesthat he was the victim in all
these cases. He outright lies.
It's, it's insane. I'm veryinterested in like this
retrospective look back on theearly 2000s and especially on
(15:40):
the treatment of women in media.
And it's, it's a really goodpiece with it. It's very
harrowing what he got away withfor so long. Because you got to
remember, they Girls Gone Wildfeatured a lot of stuff
involving underage women, andthey got away with it,
Jacob Davidson (16:01):
yeah. Plus, a
lot of it was basically revenge
porn.
Jonathan Correia (16:04):
Revenge porn.
These women were very highlyintoxicated, like, it's, it's a
very, it's, it's a, it's a hardwatch, but it's, it's really
good. I highly recommend it,especially since, like, we all
know those commercials from thattime, if you'd ever been up past
like, 8pm on Comedy Central. Weall know the infomercials with
the fucking tin drums, and it's,it's so crazy to see, like, what
(16:26):
the full thing is. And then alsothey, they do point out, like,
oh, and these celebrities wereconnected with him and stuff.
And there's a few names whereyou're like, that name's been
popping up in the news a lotlately. So yeah, they The Untold
Story. Girls gone wild. Yeah,it's, it's, it's on peacock and,
yeah, it's a, it's a good one.
James Jay Edwards (16:50):
Have you guys
seen it's on Netflix, The
Platform 2. No, not yet.
Jacob Davidson (16:55):
I love the first
one. First one, yeah, no, the
James Jay Edwards (16:57):
first one was
good. The second one, not so
much. It is. It's a little more.
It's like they're trying. Thepeople in the prison are trying
to form, like a society thattakes care of each other. But
there's like, rules andpunishments and stuff, and,
yeah, it's, it's not nearly asgood as the first. It doesn't
(17:18):
have as much to say. But there'slike, you know, there's
punishments for like, they theytry and, you know, ration the
food as it gets down. And if youtake too much, the people on the
floor above you will take careof you, meaning they're going to
ride the platform down and kickyour ass. And there's, you know,
there are punishments like, youknow, everything from, you know,
cutting off your arm to killingyou if you do certain things.
(17:41):
But it's, yeah, it's not a it'skind of a mess. But, I mean, you
guys can judge for yourself, butit's because the first one was
really good, and this one, thisone was a little disappointing.
But yeah, I
Jacob Davidson (17:55):
mean, I didn't
think, I didn't really think it
even needed a sequel. No,
James Jay Edwards (17:59):
I don't think
it did either, but lo and
behold, there it is
Jacob Davidson (18:02):
on my end, back
on theater with wicked I, while
visiting family in Connecticut,I went to New York to see the
musical adaptation. DeathBecomes Her. Death Becomes Her:
The Musical and we're all DeathBecomes Her fans. Here, right?
Jonathan Correia (18:19):
Are we all
Death Becomes Her fans here,
Jacob, are you kidding me? Ofcourse, it's one of the greatest
movies ever.
Jacob Davidson (18:27):
I need to
emphasize for the listeners at
home. Oh, okay,
Jonathan Correia (18:30):
thank you. I
was like, I was like, Don't you
try to, try to
James Jay Edwards (18:33):
that wasn't a
question. I'm
Jacob Davidson (18:34):
not, I'm not
questioning you. Saying you
gotta, you gotta emphasize itfor people listening right now.
James Jay Edwards (18:39):
It was a
statement, not a question. Yeah,
I
Jonathan Correia (18:42):
have a I have
a framed Death Becomes Her
poster in my bedroom.
Jacob Davidson (18:46):
Nice. But
anyway, yeah, no, like, I'd only
just heard about it a coupleweeks ago, because they were in
pre shows, and the reviews hadactually been very positive, so
I decided to give it a go, andit was really good, like, it was
really funny, and they managedto make it even more campy, gay
(19:08):
and hornier than the original.
In some ways,
Jonathan Correia (19:10):
that's an
accomplishment, yeah? Like,
Jacob Davidson (19:13):
there's, like,
you gotta listen to the
soundtrack, because there aresome really good and funny songs
in there. Like, they kind ofchanged Madeline Ashton's
background a little bit in thatshe's a gay, well, a gay icon on
Broadway, kind of like LizaMinnelli, and she has a song
called I do it for the gays,which is spelled G, A, V, E, but
(19:36):
does a lot of double on Tundra.
Jonathan Correia (19:38):
Oh, man, I
need to listen to the soundtrack
right now.
Jacob Davidson (19:43):
Oh no, it's
really good.
Jonathan Correia (19:45):
Are we done?
James Jay Edwards (19:46):
We're
getting, we're getting pretty
horny with this episode. And Ihaven't even talked about, I
finally saw Anora andChallengers,
Jacob Davidson (19:55):
yeah. But it
also just, I also just want to
add that it had a really good.
Cast with let's see Megan Hiltyas Matt Ashton, Christopher
sever as earnest, Jennifersimmer as Helen sharp. And this
was really good. They hadMichelle Williams as Viola Van
Horn, which is basically kind ofa reformatted, or kind of a
changed version of least whistlevon rumen, like, they kind of
(20:21):
changed character a bit, butit's basically, it basically
follows the same beats, but theydo some fun stuff and kind of
making it stand on its own.
Jonathan Correia (20:31):
That's
awesome. She's a great singer.
Jacob Davidson (20:34):
Oh yeah, no, she
had some great numbers too, but
yeah, no, the it was a lot offun. And they also do some fun
tricks and pulling off a lot ofthe practical, you know, a lot
of the violence, like the shovelfight and Madeline falling down
the stairs and Helen gettingshot in the chest. So I'm always
a fan of theatrical productionsthat do a lot of practical
(20:56):
effects Gore.
Jonathan Correia (20:58):
It's a great
year to be a death becomes her
fan, because there's themusical, there's the recent 4k
release, which is gorgeous, andand then there's the Sabrina
carpenter music video, uh, whereit's her and Jenna Ortega are
doing their own version of DeathBecomes Her and just being,
like, Absolutely, like, brutalwith each other, wearing awesome
outfits and, like, doing a lotof homages to that movie. So
(21:20):
yeah, great year to be DeathBecomes Her fan. I
James Jay Edwards (21:24):
saw a couple
movies that are gonna make my
for awards consideration, thatare gonna make my weirdest
movies of the year list. One ofthem is Nightbitch, which,
Jacob Davidson (21:36):
oh yeah,
James Jay Edwards (21:37):
Nightbitch,
despite its name is not really a
horror movie, although there is,I don't want to spoil anything,
but there's a little bit ofWerewolf action in it, but it
is. It's Amy Adams as basicallythis mother who is just kind of
over it. Do you guys rememberthat movie from a few years ago
(21:57):
Tully with Charlize Theron?
Jacob Davidson (22:00):
Right? Yeah,
yes.
James Jay Edwards (22:01):
It's a little
like that in in the mood about
how, you know, this mother isjust, you know, with her
husband, who's, you know,although the husband in this is
a lot more likable than the onein Tully. But anyway, it it goes
places, and it gets a littleweird. And the other one, which
I don't know if you guys haveseen The People's Joker. Oh,
(22:24):
I've seen the People's Joker.
Have you
Jonathan Correia (22:26):
seen it? Oh,
my gosh, wanting to it
James Jay Edwards (22:28):
is it? Is
really it's interesting. And
what makes it weird? And I sayit's gonna make my weirdest
movies the year, where it'sbasically Vera Drew's, she,
she's somehow makes her comingout as trans story into a Gotham
City villain and hero story. Butit's weird because it's, it's
(22:53):
it's really honest about her,about her feelings and her
journey to coming out. Andthat's not the weird part. The
weird part is, it is thismixture of live action, stop
motion, traditional animation,puppetry. It is just this
multimedia extravaganza. Andpretty much any Batman character
(23:15):
you can think of is in thismovie, they, you know, in
somewhere, and they have thiswhole, I don't know when you saw
it, but I know that they gotinto some legal trouble. DC
basically tried to shut thismovie down. And there's a whole
legal thing at the beginning,citing the the Fair Use Act of
1975 or something, basicallysaying, you know, this is a
(23:36):
parody, and we're legally ableto use these likenesses and
characters for, you know, in thecontext of this movie. So
they're able to use, you know,like the Riddler and the Joker
and Batman and the cat woman andBane and basically the whole
Batman universe is in theresomewhere. But it is a it's a
(23:57):
trip.
Jacob Davidson (23:58):
Yeah, I saw it a
few months ago, I think over the
summer, and I thought, I thoughtit was very funny. And also it
had a great kind of anticorporatist message and kind of,
and also, I feel like it was asatire about the state of
comedy, because, like, LorneMichaels is a character in it,
and they dunk on him constantly.
Well,
James Jay Edwards (24:18):
they Yeah,
Vera Drew's character, which
I'm, I just saw it last night,and I'm, I it eventually it
becomes Joker the harlequin. Andis, is what they change their
name to. And, um, the penguinthey open a comedy club is
basically the crux of it. Andthe he's, it is really
(24:38):
hysterical. It is. Vera Drew hasa real sense of humor about
everything that she's gonethrough. And the line that
totally got me is when she'sfirst debuting her Joker, the
harlequin character, she standsup and says, Hi, I'm Joker the
Harley Quinn. My pronouns are heand Ha, yeah. It cracked me up.
Jacob Davidson (25:02):
And let's see,
on my end, you know, I'm in
Connecticut again, so of course,I did my with my usual
pilgrimage to Vinegar Syndromesarchive in Bridgeport, and they
were doing a Black Friday sale.
So I got to get some cool swagwhile I was there, mostly vinyl,
they they had a very goodselection this time. Like, let's
(25:22):
see, I got the soundtrack toRollercoaster, 1941 Hell, yeah,
yeah, no. I mean, like 1990 41 Ifeel like is underrated, and
especially like that overlypatriotic score by by John
Williams. And on the horror sideof things, I got, let's see
(25:45):
Necropolis, a Troma soundtrackcompilation, which has stuff
from, like a lot of their lesserknown, or, you know, kind of
partner label releases, youknow, like Blood Hook, Nightmare
Weekend, even Nightbeast withmusic by JJ Abrams. And I also
got the Warlock sound track withmusic by Jerry Goldsmith, which,
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you know, I re watched it, youknow, after Julian Sands, sadly
passed away a little bit ago.
And it's an incredible score. SoI'm glad I was able to pick that
up. And terms of movies, I gotthis cool double feature set
(26:30):
from film masters with like aspeaking of Nosferatu a double
Klaus Kinski feature with TheCreature with the Blue Hand and
Web of the Spider, both Eurohorror movies that Kinsky did in
the latter, he plays Edgar,Allan Poe, oh, and also, I
picked up some VHS. I got Moontrap with, damn it, Bruce
(26:54):
Campbell, yeah, with BruceCampbell and Jonathan who played
Chekov. Walter Koenig, yeah,Walter Koenig and Bruce Campbell
playing astronauts fightingrobots on the moon. What's not
the love
Jonathan Correia (27:08):
Hell yeah?
Jacobs mad at me because I wentto a VHS swap meet and found a
copy of
Jacob Davidson (27:17):
Demon Wind. No?
Jonathan Correia (27:19):
Well, I did
find a copy of Demon Wind by.
Did not buy it, but I did getmetal metal project metal beast.
There we go. I did, yeah,Jacobson, because I found a VHS
of project metal beast andbought it. I did also find a
copy of demon went by. Did notbuy that one because I had to
save my money for the 1990smonster mash, the movie starring
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Cameron burr from Full House,which I don't know why that
movie exists. I don't know whyit was made, and I can't wait to
watch it.
James Jay Edwards (27:52):
I had over
Black Friday, a 24 had an AAA 24
30% off, you know, for members.
So I actually caught up on abunch of the vinyl releases of
theirs that that I was missing,you know, stuff like Talk to Me,
Sing Sing, Civil War, you know,because, I mean, 30% is better
than the 10% that you usuallyget. Plus we're founding members
(28:13):
of AAA24 because I guess theprice is going up now, but not
for us.
Jonathan Correia (28:20):
Yeah, you came
in just before you timed it.
Well,
James Jay Edwards (28:25):
it's been a
few months, but, yeah, I'm glad
that I got it when I got it, butI was thinking just yesterday,
I'm like, where's my A24 stuff?
And then I was like, wait, noheretic is in there, and that's
a pre order, so I'm not going toget any of that stuff. But all
these, you know, all these vinylreleases, are on their way, so
it's going to be awesome.
Jacob Davidson (28:44):
Yep. And
yesterday was the grand release
of probably my favorite moviethe year, Hundreds of Beavers,
ah, and it went, it was insane,like they had 2000 you know,
slip cover copies that went soldout within an hour. But I'm glad
I grabbed one. And they alsohave, like, a wooden slip cover
one on their website, which I'mkind of tempted to get, but I
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don't know if I can double diplike that, but I'm just really
glad that it shows just how muchpeople love that movie, because
it sold 1000s and 1000s ofcopies yesterday.
Jonathan Correia (29:17):
Yeah, they're
James Jay Edwards (29:18):
giving that
an awards push. I'm in two
critics groups, and I've gottenlinks to that movie for awards
consideration. And even some ofmy colleagues who are in the
Critics Choice Awards voting,they've gotten links to it so
they're giving Hundreds ofBeavers, and I don't know if
it's going to come up withanything. I'm actually pushing
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for it, for costume design andcomedic performance for in the
San Diego Film critic awards. Idon't know if, yeah, the problem
is convincing people to watch amovie called Hundreds of
Beavers. But, you know, it'sdefinitely a niche Movie. But if
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you're in that, if you're inthat demographic, you love it,
which I think all three of usdo. Oh,
Jonathan Correia (30:06):
we absolutely
are. And I love that. With this
recent push and stuff, thedirector said that if they do a
sequel, there's no plans, but ifthey do, it would be called 2
Hundreds of Beavers, which isjust now, it has to be made. It
absolutely has to
Jacob Davidson (30:23):
the
possibilities, man, let's
Jonathan Correia (30:26):
get our
special guest in this week. This
week we are joined with RyanKruger, the writer, director,
producer, an all around talentof this year's Street Trash. How
are you Ryan,
Ryan Kruger (30:37):
cool. Man, thank
you so much for having me on.
Jonathan Correia (30:40):
Oh, of course,
man. We love Street Trash, and
so we want to get down into thegooeyness of it. We always like
to start off our interviews byasking, where'd you get your
start? What got you intofilmmaking, and especially the
horror genre.
Ryan Kruger (30:52):
It's always, it's
always been one of those things
that, you know, I mean, a lot ofpeople my age, and even, like,
10 years ago, probably even 20years ago, where people are
still like, I didn't even, Ididn't even know what I want to
be, you know, when I get olderor whatever. And as a kid, I've
always, I've just always likedthe movies. I grew up watching
so many films with my dad andrenting videos out, and it's
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always just been a thing. AndI've never wasted any time doing
anything else, like, I startedacting, then I went into
directing, still do my acting,so it's just something that's
been there super, super earlyon. And, you know, some people
go try study this, or go andthey have a backup just in case
this doesn't work. And dad willalways say, you know, maybe, you
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know, maybe, if this doesn'twork out. I'm not going to say
it's not going to work out,right? But if it doesn't work
out, maybe you should be like, afucking lawyer or a doctor or
this or that, and so just have athing, just just for a backup,
just in case. And then I'vealways been, you know, at that
time, I was like, I'll dodirecting, and my mom and dad
was like, like, we meant, like,something else, not in the film
industry. So, yeah, so it'salways, it's just always been a
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thing. And I've always loved,you know, growing up in the 80s
and early 90s as a kid, justwatching all these, you know,
cool fucking horror films andgore films and, you know, going
to the video shop, you know,looking at those fucking front
covers, where you don't evenread the back, it's just like,
Oh, this looks amazing. Andthat's it. And it's such a I
guess it was just such a bigpart of my childhood. And I
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actually often wonder, when Ithink about all the films that I
watched as a kid, and all the TVseries as I watched as a kid,
and all the cartoons and stuffthat I watched as a kid, and he
knew all the characters and allthis, I always think sometimes
like and I went outside. Iwasn't just indoors, but it's
one of those where I'm thinking,How the fuck did we have so much
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time to watch all those thingsand still go outside? You know,
Jonathan Correia (32:51):
it's hard to
think about. I've been trying to
get through a lot of, like,classic series, especially Star
Trek, recently, and like, I'monly able to do it because it'll
be at like, midnight and I'msneaking in an episode in bed
before I go to sleep. I It'stime. Is insane.
Ryan Kruger (33:06):
You talk about the
original, original series.
Jonathan Correia (33:08):
I'm talking
all of them I have watched all
and I'm working my way throughoriginal series and then
animated to finish up right now.
Okay, all right, cool. We'regetting, we're getting, oh man,
a friend
Jacob Davidson (33:18):
of mine tried to
finish Star Trek, The Animated
Series, and he had to drink alot to do it. They're fun,
Jonathan Correia (33:24):
a bit crude
and rough, but
Ryan Kruger (33:27):
I've still got one
of them on DHS. I've still got,
like, it's like, one of thevolumes on DHS.
Jonathan Correia (33:33):
Oh, nice. I
love that. Your backup. When
your parents are like, allright, if acting doesn't work
out, what are you gonna do? I'mgonna direct. That's my folks
were, like, have you thoughtabout something? Creative? They
were like, they, have youthought about electrician or
plumber, you know, some, somesort of trade,
Jacob Davidson (33:48):
sounds awesome.
My dadrecommended it be a technical
writer instead of a writer.
Writer
Ryan Kruger (33:55):
exactly you gotta.
You gotta do what you gotta do,man, you gotta do what you
enjoy,
Jacob Davidson (34:00):
absolutely,
exactly, and also you, and you
raise a great point that theliteral art of cover art for
movies I feel is underappreciated, especially in the
digital age, because, you know,like, I would also wander the
video aisles and basically justmake my selections based on how
Cool a VHS cover was or howbadly nightmarish you know, the
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cover was scared. It was scaredto me, like the Dead Alive. VHS
cover still haunts mynightmares.
Ryan Kruger (34:29):
Yeah, it's one of
those things. Listen, kids
aren't gonna be like it was whenI was a kid, growing up,
spending three hours in a videoshop looking for video, you know
what I mean. And then your dadsays you can have two and then
you're in there for another hourlooking, but, you know, people
looking through Netflix, andobviously the, you know,
(34:50):
obviously you get some coolartwork here and there, but like
nothing compared to to the 80s.
But I mean, if you look at a lotof like, so. Of the images on,
you know, any, any fuckinggenres on, or series or whatever
on, on Netflix, or any of theseplatforms, it's just like,
there's always, you know,there's always that one
background, whether it's a cityor whether it's buildings, or
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whether there's desert, and thenyou've got all the characters
just standing there doing this,and then women in the
background, you know, it'salways, it's always the same,
like the same fucking layout forevery single program. They're
all just standing there. One'sgot the arms folded or whatever,
and it's the same for everyfucking thing. Or
Jonathan Correia (35:28):
if it does
have cool artwork on the Netflix
thing, they'll just pick, like,a shot where it's just one
characters head, and it'll belike, Wait, I've seen the
amazing artwork done for theshow. What are you doing here?
And it's, it's trying to appealto all audiences in it. Yeah,
you know, you know, I
Ryan Kruger (35:44):
hate what they what
they do when they change the
photo. So with, with newerfilms, I always forget the
names. It's like, it just, it'shard to remember all the names
now, like, they'll change thepicture, because I'm always
like, this fucking nothing onthe Netflix, and it's constantly
not fucking, there's nothing on.
And then sometimes they changethe poster, or they change the
thumbnail, and you go, Oh,what's this? Oh, that's uh. And
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maybe if there's a cameo fromlike Christopher Walken, or not
even, not even somebody as coolas Christ walking, it just be
somebody else. And then theychange the image. And you go,
watch this. And then you go, Ican see that already trying to
con you, con your way in towatch another, ship, maybe
predatory
Jacob Davidson (36:22):
tactics, that's
for sure, exactly. And before we
get into Street Trash, I didwant to ask you a bit about
Fried Barry, which I also love,and I hope more people will find
because of street trash. Iwanted to ask, like, what? How
did that start? I saw that itwas a short for it looked like
it was a short first, and thenit became just that mind warp of
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a movie starring Gary Green,yeah, originally,
Ryan Kruger (36:49):
I just made this.
It was the three minuteexperimental. There was no plans
for a feature or anything. Itwas just this random little
experimental that I just wantedto show my style and do
something different. And I didthat, and it did, like, really
well in, like, festival run andstuff. I only released that. I
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did that 2017 I only releasedthat when I started doing the
Fried Barry, just for, like, thepromotion, and I started putting
it out there. And yeah, it was,it was a few years down the line
when I at that point in mycareer where I was just over,
(37:30):
just false promises, where, youknow, where producers will go.
Oh, yeah, we, you know, we wantto do a film with you, and this
and this, and then it fadesaway, and then another producer,
and then it fades away, and itjust got to this thing where I'm
like, you know, all I want to dois to make a feature film. I'm
just not getting thatopportunity. And the stuff that
I want to shoot, it's also, youknow, it's not 100% like
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commercial, or it's too dark, orit's too gritty, or whatever. I
just said to myself, You knowwhat? I want to make a movie. I
want to start next month. And,you know, at the time, I spoke
to my producer, and he was like,Well, have you got a script? I'm
like, I'm busy writing it, andI'm going to write as I go. And
he goes, Well, why do you wantto shoot next month? And I was
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like, the way I saw it, like, ifwe don't shoot next month, it's
never going to happen. So I'm,you know, I'm sick of just like,
delaying stuff or saying youwant to do something. I'm like,
I want to start next month. Andso I, you know, I had money, and
my producer had money, and thenindependently, you know, the the
month, the next month came, andwe started shooting. And it took
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28 days, over a year and a half,to finish that film. And I was
writing as I was going, I hadall the scene breakdowns, what I
wanted, and I knew how it wasgoing to end. But then, you
know, as I'm writing, I'm like,Oh, this should happen. And then
I would get the footage, and I'dbe like, Oh, I actually don't
need this. Now. I need this. Andit just, it just developed like
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that. It was it that. So thatwas, like, basically my medicine
that get me out of my the holethat I was in at the time, which
fucking worked, and it alsobrought me Street Trash
Jacob Davidson (39:06):
that's right
now. And also they would make a
great double feature,
Ryan Kruger (39:11):
yeah. So, yeah,
definitely.
Jacob Davidson (39:13):
And on that, I
really loved the new Street
Trash. It was so much fun. AndI'm kicking myself because I
missed the theatrical screeningat the new Beverly on 35
millimeter. I think, I think Ihad to work those nights or
something. And I really wish Icould have gone, oh, it
Jonathan Correia (39:27):
was a great
screening.
Ryan Kruger (39:29):
It was, it was it
was, it was really cool. I'm
trying to think now, were you atthe first or the second
screening?
Jonathan Correia (39:36):
I was at the
first night? Yeah, yeah.
Ryan Kruger (39:38):
I enjoyed this.
Both nights were great. Ienjoyed, I actually enjoyed the
screening on the second nightmore because they turned up the
volume more. So it was like withwith the film, but yeah, both,
both nights were was amazing. Itwas really cool, and it was
great to see the audiencelaughing at all the right
moments and stuff like. That.
(40:00):
And, you know, I love, I alwayslove an American audience,
because you guys are very like,vocal you'll just like, shout
out stuff like that, which is,which is awesome.
Jonathan Correia (40:12):
It's hard not
to with a movie like Street
Trash. I mean, it's got a littlebit of everything. It's got the
drama, it's got comedy, it's gotpenis, decapitation, imaginary
friends asking to get suckedoff. I mean, there's something
there for everybody with it. Andthe the crowd reactions were
really great. I thought you weregonna say for a moment the
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second night was better becauseI wasn't there. But, you know,
that's,
Ryan Kruger (40:36):
that's, that's why
it was better.
Jonathan Correia (40:39):
How did you
go, get involved with Street
Trash. I mean, from from what Iunderstand, it was a very, it
was a very different shootingprocess than fried Berry. You
said fried Berry was very youwere writing as you were going
along with this, yeah. How'd youStreet Trash come to be so,
Ryan Kruger (40:53):
yeah, basically
what happened on street trash?
It was we were screening. Therewas the premiere for fried Barry
on Joe Bob's less driving. Andthe producers, Justin and Matt
were, they've been looking forsomebody or the right fit to do
Street Trash. And for somereason, when fry Barry was
screening, a lot of people wassaying Ryan Krug would be a good
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fit. And it just came up, likeso many times I thought, like, I
thought nothing of it. And theneventually, you know, Justin
reached out and said, Do youwant to write a, if you want to
write a script and and directthe movie? And obviously, like,
I knew what Street Trash was. Iwas a fan of the, you know, the
original film and, and, youknow, I really wanted to do
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something different and not copythe original and have, like, a
loose, you know, a loose sequel.
So, you know, for a newaudience, it could be a
standalone film for, you know,for the for the fans and people
like myself, it's like, youknow, if you know the original,
you know that this is more of asequel, like we even mentioned
the original film in this film,and, yeah, and, I mean, you
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know, making Street Trash as afan, I look at it and go, you
know, what did I like aboutstreet trash? What do people
like about street trash? Notonly, you know, is it shot in
the 80s, and is that certainnostalgia, you know, movies that
we you know, what we grew up,grew up with as kids and
watching it and stuff like that.
(42:17):
So, you know, I look at that,and I look at like, you know,
80s in New York. And obviously,the DNA of street trash is the
fluorescent, you know, thecolors of all the goo and all
the blood, you know, that's allthe multi, multi Goo is a big
part of the DNA. And thenobviously, is the 80s style
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prosthetics, which I love,prosthetics I thought I would
ever make a film of a lot of incamera prosthetics, you know,
that much anyway, and you have amore of a narrative story than
the original. And it wasimportant for me to have
characters that you like andenjoy and go on this journey
(43:00):
with. You know absolutely,
Jonathan Correia (43:02):
because I had
seen Street Trash years prior,
and was always like, that wasfun, but, you know, and then,
like, left it by. And so beforethe screening, I revisited, and
I felt like I was like, man, itfelt like it was about to make a
statement, but went for the jokeinstead, like it was setting up
for to make like, a goodstatement about, like
homelessness and like apathytowards the homeless and all
(43:25):
that. But then it would go forthe bit, which is, which is fun
too, but I felt there was a bitof lacking. So watching your
Street Trash, I was very happyto be like, Oh, you're actually
sticking with saying something,but still having the time for
goopiness, for the jokes, forthe punk rock energy, exactly,
Ryan Kruger (43:42):
and, yeah, and you
know, there's a lot of, you
know, social awareness, and youknow, of layered within the film
with, you know, the homeless andthe government. And you know,
we've all been through COVID. Weall know how the government's
like, Oh, you gotta, you gottawear your mask. You gotta do
this. You need, you need to, youknow, you need to take this job,
and then you need to take thatjob. And we all went through it.
(44:03):
And not only that, a lot ofpeople lost their houses, a lot
of people people lost their jobsand businesses. And you know,
even beforehand, there's a lotof homeless people. But even
after COVID, it's way more, andit's everywhere in the world.
It's crazy. So, you know, it'snice to see when people do see
it in the film and see that asyou know, that social message
(44:23):
there, and it's laid it withinthe film and, and, like you
said, it's still, I still havetime for, you know, the jokes
and the gooeyness and and haveall that blood and guts and
stuff like that, which isawesome, but it's also, as I
said, if you see it, and you cansee that laid into the film,
which is great, but also stepback and also look at it and be
(44:45):
like, it is just a melt movie atthe fucking end of the day as
well. You know, it is a popcornmovie that you can enjoy and
this and this, and you can'tmake it too, too serious about
certain stuff. But it isn't.
There's a like you said, thestuff. Is there, whether you
pick it up or not. Then, youknow, that's, that's cool that
you do, yeah, yeah.
Jacob Davidson (45:04):
And it was, and
I did want to ask just kind of,
what was your process in writingout these characters? And also,
I think it was so cool that youbrought back Gary Green from
Fried Barry to play eight bit inthis film. I
Ryan Kruger (45:18):
couldn't not bring
Gary Green back. You know, in
this movie, it's like, it's,obviously, I'm, like, I have to,
I have, I can have to bring himinto this film. And obviously
fitted so well into that, youknow, drug addict again. But it
was just like a bad acid headthat's probably took just way
too much fucking drugs. So itwas cool to have, you know, to
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have him there. And because Garyis not a trained actor, and he
comes from an extra background.
And you know, when I did FriedBarry I had to work super
fucking close with him, and ittook a lot of time to get
exactly what I want. He's Garyis a super nice guy, but it
just, I have to jump through alot of hoops to get exactly what
I want. And the cool thing withthis film is that, because
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visually, Gary just looksamazing. He just looks fucking
cool. He's got this fuckinggreat look. And, yeah, as long
as I think I just cast himreally well in the parts that I
want him to play in, and heshines through, and we I've got
like a three, three step processhow I work with Gary, where I
rehearse so much over a certainperiod of time, and then I
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rehearse on on set, and thenthere's, uh, certain stuff I do
on set with them. And then whenit comes to post, it's also
polishing his performance andgetting the beats so it looks
even better. And you know what Imean, there's, there's a whole,
there's a whole process there.
But the cool feeling about Garyspot. I think it was only the
second draft, and when Ibrought, when I came up with the
(46:46):
idea for Sockle as a littleImagineer a friend, I just
thought this is such a fuckingcool and funny idea, like nobody
will see it coming and and itwas all it was almost designed
for, like a support boat for me,working with Gary a little bit
more so that, you know, he'sjust got this sidekick, and then
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I can, you know, just controlthe directing a little bit more.
And then as a duo, it just, youknow, it's even funnier. And the
thing was, with that also, andI'm pretty sure this has
happened already, but evenbeforehand, you know, I didn't
want, I try to keep Sockle asecret as much as possible,
because obviously, when you,when you when you when you're
(47:28):
doing a street trash movie, andsome people think straight away,
oh, it's a remake. You know,straight away, it's a remake or
reimagining and all this. SoI've always been like, yes, a
reimagining, loose sequel, butit is definitely not copying,
you know, the original film.
Yes, I've done nods to theoriginal and played homage to it
and respect to it. You know,soon as we the press got hold of
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the film, saying, remaking this,and then obviously, as a fan as
well, when you hear somebody'sdoing like a remake, you're
like, Oh, why the fuck are theymaking that? And why they just
leave it alone? And, like Isaid, it's more of a sequel, but
also because Sockle is sofucking random, you know, if
original fans saw so be like,What the fuck is this fucking
(48:13):
alien thing doing in StreetTrash? But it works so well. You
know what I mean. It works sowell. That's why I said you got
to, like, watch the film and andyou also got to know that it's a
sequel. And again, it comes backto that, you know, that cool 80s
prosthetic puppet sort of vibe.
So it's all, you know all, andit does all make sense, you know
what I mean. And it's, it's beengreat that there's been so I've
(48:37):
had so so so many messages ofpeople and people reaching out,
and things I've seen onlinewhere, you know, there's been a
lot of the original fans thathave watched the film and have
and has really enjoyed it.
They're so happy that it's moreof a sequel and not a remake,
you know, for scene, for scene,or anything like that. So, and
that's the thing, you know, Ijust wanted my my own stamp on
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it, and, you know, and make itdifferent.
Jonathan Correia (49:03):
Has there been
a lot of Sockle fan art coming
out. I can imagine that there'sa, there's a corner of the
internet that's already going alittle nuts with that. There's,
there's,
Ryan Kruger (49:16):
there's a few
people upset me stuff. And what
we're actually going to do. Wehaven't announced it yet, so it
will come out on this first wewill be doing a fan art
competition, probably withVinegars Syndrome and yeah. So
we'll be really looking at, youknow, people doing fine art. And
(49:39):
probably, you know, when someblu rays and DVDs and stuff like
that, we'll probably announcethat pretty, pretty soon. Sweet.
Jacob Davidson (49:47):
Yeah, and
speaking of I also really like
the poster art for your streettrash with the melting right
right cops face, which I'll go.
A great juxtaposition to theoriginal Street Trash poster,
where the homeless guy melting,and also the tagline melt the
rich. So I think it just reallysets itself apart.
Ryan Kruger (50:10):
Yeah, we should
have actually called the film
Street Trash; Melt the Rich.
That's what we should actuallythat
Jacob Davidson (50:15):
would have been
a good hook. You could
Jonathan Correia (50:17):
do a
Ghostbusters thing. Just do it
at post release, just like howthey turned the Ghostbusters
answer the call. Just call ittrash, melt the rich.
Jacob Davidson (50:26):
And I did want
to ask about the rest of casting
process, and also just writingout the rest of the cast
characters. Yeah,
Ryan Kruger (50:35):
no, brilliant cast.
You know, a lot of these castmembers were involved in Fried
Barry. And, yeah, we had amazingcast. My very good friend Sean
Cameron, Michael played Ronald,and Joe VAZ played chef, yeah,
and it's those two guys arelike, very, you know, I've
worked with them, you know, overthe years and stuff. And it's,
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it was so nice to do, finally doa film with the leads in the
movie, which was also because itwas always a thing like making
music videos or short filmssaying, you know, one day we'll
make, you know, we'll make afeature, and you guys will be
the lead, and I can actuallyfucking pay you some money and
shit like that. And so it'ssuper special having that and
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having them on board. Andthey're great actors, and
they've got such a, you know,they've done so, so much an
amazing work. And this is thething, like, I love the movies
that I make. I'm a fan of my ownfucking movies. I fucking love
the films that I make, becauseit's not just my work, it's
their work. Like Sean CameronMichael, the amount of other
amazing actors that he's workedwith. He's such a brilliant,
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brilliant fucking actor he cando, like, he's just a great
character actor. He's done somuch cool shit. And I admire,
you know, admire these peoplethat I work with, you know,
whether, even, whether it's, youknow, somebody who's doing the
soundtrack, or whatever, like, Ilove, or dop, you know, I love
these people's work. And youknow, it's all friends and pros
coming together to, you know, tocreate something together and
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and I think that's what's veryspecial, you know, about this
film, how hard, you know, therewas a very limited, I think
maybe three or four people thatauditioned, and everybody else
was just cast. I just cast thembecause I know this person's
going to be great in this role,this person's going to be great
in that role. And, yeah, it'sjust hanging out with your
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mates. And the reason whythey're there is not just
because they were mates. They'revery good at what they do. And
it's just, you know, four and ahalf weeks, or however long it
took. And it's just hanging outwith your mates making a movie.
I mean, you can't get betterthan that, you know. Oh, yeah,
Jacob Davidson (52:38):
no. Just happy
to hear that. It sounds, sounds
like you kind of regular crewgoing and, and, yeah, no, yeah.
And I do feel like you have tobe a fan of your own work or
your own projects, because, youknow, it's just not you, and you
got to support yourself and allthe people involved, absolutely,
Ryan Kruger (52:57):
yeah, no. It's just
one of those things where, you
know, like I said, it's, youknow, it takes so many people
to, you know, to make a movie.
There's so many people and it,you know, it takes the right
recipe as well. And I thinkthat's something, I think I'm
really good at, of bringing, youknow, certain people together to
to make, you know, a highstandard thing that that's going
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to work. That's Entertainment.
And, you know, and casting theright, you know, the right
characters and the right peoplefor for these things. And so,
like I said, whether it's themusic or the the you know, the
wardrobe, styling, or whatever,you know what I mean, it's a
it's a big, it's a big part ofof everything. You know, when
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you look at a frame, it's, it'sso many people's work, you know?
Jonathan Correia (53:44):
Oh, yeah,
absolutely. The original Street
trash is so steeped in 80s NewYork. What was it like? Kind of
balancing that esthetic withalso bringing so much of Cape
Town, yeah.
Ryan Kruger (53:56):
You know, there's a
lot of films that get shot here
that pretend that it's Americaor whatever. And the thing is
straight away again, I wanted myown stamp on it, and to set it
in Cape Town, you know, it'salso something different. It's a
completely also different vibe,but still universally
entertained, you know,entertainment as well at the
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same time. So it's justsomething different. So I didn't
want to, you know, I mean, I'mnot American, I'm freaking
English, South African. So, youknow, I also, you know, I don't
want to again. I wanted to stayaway from the original and have
my own, like, stamp on it. And Ithink South Africa has a lot to
offer. I think South Africa isstill very new in the film
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world. Of you know what peoplethink? I mean, I mean, I
remember as a kid growing up inEngland, also going back and
forth into South Africa. And,you know, you say to people, you
know, are you from South Africa?
And they like, well, they justpicture like lions and stuff in
your backyard like that, orlike, why am I white, if I'm
from South Africa? Just like,weird shit like that. So it's
just, it. It's people have avery warped perception of of
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what South Africa is, and it'sjust like anywhere else in the
world. It's like, it's built up.
Yeah, it's a Cape Town is a verycool city. So, yeah, it's just
adding something different andsomething, you know, that brings
something else, you know.
Jacob Davidson (55:16):
Yeah. And I did
want to ask, in terms of the
practical effects. Who wasinvolved for that? And do you
have an exact figure for justhow many gallons of blood and
various bodily fluids were usedin the making of the movie?
Ryan Kruger (55:32):
It was Adrien Smith
from creations. So there was a
lot of planning for that.
Prosthetics. I don't know howmany gallons of goo and and
blood and multi colored goo thatwe had, it was a shitload. I
know that because the cleanupteam took, you know, try, try,
picking that shit up. You know,it was like a lot. I mean, even
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when we shot the, the firstscene of the of the movie with a
guy sitting in the chair, andhe's in the experimental room.
When we shot that, we actuallyshot that before the main part
of of shooting street trash. Itwas the concept approval,
originally, what we we startedwith, and there was so much
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blood and goo on the floor, andthere was, like, everybody
started going home. And it wasjust like, me and another
assistant, or I'm a producer atthe time, and it was, there was
so much blood and goo on thefloor, it was impossible to get
everything, you know, in bucketsand stuff like that. And there
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was no lights in the building,and people started leaving. But
I had to clean the place, and Iended up just pushing it out on
the floor, just like, justpushing it out further, so it
just so it's not thick blood,just puddles. I started to push
it out on the floor, just toeven out. And I think the it was
almost like, I died. Died thefloor. Like, right? Was just
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like, yeah. But the locations,people never shouted at me. So
it's, it was alright. I got, Iguess I got away with it.
Jonathan Correia (57:06):
You got your
deposit back. That's all that's,
that's important. It lookedgood. Looked amazing, yeah, the
all the blood, the goo, themulti color punk rock loved it.
We're getting towards the end.
So Ryan wanted to check with youand see we have street trashes
out on digital right now. OnScreambox, it's streaming, and
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it's coming soon to blu raythrough vinegar syndrome, which
is very exciting. They always doawesome blu ray. So looking
forward to that. Yeah,
Ryan Kruger (57:35):
that's in January.
Vinegar syndrome is in January,and screen box is it's next
month. So right now we're ondigital platforms, Amazon and
Apple TV, and pretty surethere's a few others as well.
Oh,
Jonathan Correia (57:51):
awesome. And
you're and you guys are still
doing the screen 35 millimeterscreenings and select data.
Yeah,
Ryan Kruger (57:58):
that's still
happening right now. I would
like to go to another one ofthose. I want to go, I want to
go. I want to go to the New Yorkthe New York one. That's, that's
where I want to tell you,
Jacob Davidson (58:05):
wearing a
Yankees hat right now.
Ryan Kruger (58:09):
Yeah.
Jonathan Correia (58:10):
Uh, what else
do you have coming up, coming up
for you?
Ryan Kruger (58:13):
Um, so right now,
there's a few, there's a few
films that we're talking aboutright now. And it's, it's
really, you never know what'sgoing to happen. You know, you
never know what's you know lookslike this films going to happen,
and then somebody else picks upthe other film, and it just
happens sooner some So sometimesthat's the case. I have though,
been working on this very like,odd house indie, black and white
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movie starring Gary, oh, cool.
Very different than Street Trashand very different than fri
Barry. But it's literally abouta weirdo that is that wants to
be an actor, but he's a shitactor, and he's and yeah, he
ends up going like full method,and starts going fucking mad and
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starts fucking killing people.
Basically,
Jonathan Correia (59:04):
damn bad Gary,
isn't he? Yeah, he's
Ryan Kruger (59:07):
awesome, man.
Gary's, he's, that's what I'msaying. No matter what I shoot
up, you know, Gary will end uppopping up somewhere. I again, I
just picked the rightcharacters. I have patience
working with Gary. You know, ittakes a lot of time to work with
them and get exactly what Iwant, but that's cool. That's
fine. I'm patient with them, andwe work well together. I just
got to jump through some hoopsduring the making of and
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directing them, but it's fine.
We get there in the end, andGary is great. He never gives
up. He's always putting 120% in.
So he'll never be like, I'mdone. I can't do this. He even
when I've got the take, he'll,he'll be like, Ryan, let's do it
again. I'm like, go. Trust me,we got it. Like mine. Took 70
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takes. We got it. And he's like,no, no, let's do it again. I'm
like, no, no. Trust me. We likewe. We got it, and if it doesn't
work, I'm like, no guy, we'renot doing another take. It's
like, we definitely can't getthis, but it's alright, look,
I'm going to try something elsewhich will which will work
instead. So
Jonathan Correia (01:00:12):
let's go. He's
your Oliver rete or Ken Russell.
There
Ryan Kruger (01:00:18):
is more, more like
my, it's like my Bela Lugosi
Jonathan Correia (01:00:25):
to your Edward
or your Todd brown question,
Well, where can we find you, ononline or on social so we can
keep up with the projects youhave coming up and more street
trash news,
Ryan Kruger (01:00:38):
yeah, on Twitter
and Instagram. It's Ryan Kruger
thing, and on Facebook, typingRyan Kruger should it should pop
up. And also Ryan Kruger dot allthe upcoming stall the RIP. So,
yeah, keep a look out for that.
If you watch Street Trash,showed some love on letterbox.
And let me know. Let me knowwhat you think.
Jonathan Correia (01:01:00):
Great.
Definitely show the love onletterbox for Justin's sanity,
please. Oh yeah, exactly sorry.
I crashed myself up with that.
Thank you so much for joiningus. Of course, you could find
Eye On Horror on all the socials@EyeOnHorror, or you could find
us at iHorror.com, which is awebsite we call home. Our theme
music is by Restless Spirits, sogo check them out. And our
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artwork is by Chris Fisher, sogo check him out, and remember
to check out Street Trash now ondigital platforms coming soon to
stream box coming soon tovinegar syndrome and and, of
course, if you are able to go toa screening on 35 go see it.
This film was shot on 35 andlooks amazing on the big screen.
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So yeah, and we'll see everybodyin a couple of weeks. So for me,
I'm Jon Correia,
Jacob Davidson (01:01:51):
I'm Jacob
Davison,
James Jay Edwards (01:01:52):
I'm James J
Edwards, And
Ryan Kruger (01:01:54):
I'm Ryan Kruger.
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