The Great August Catch Up!

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James Jay Edwards (00:24):
Welcome to eye on horror, the official
podcast of ihorror.com. This isepisode 132, otherwise known as
season seven. Episode 13. I'myour host, James Jay Edwards,
and with me, as always, is yourother host, Jacob Davison, how
you doing, Jacob?

Jacob Davidson (00:40):
I'm doing quite well. I've been on vacation in
New England, visiting family andfriends and getting into some
spooky New England stuff.

Are you in Gloucester?

No, actually, I'm in Connecticut.

Okay, I saw you posted somewhere from
Gloucester. And the number oftimes I have said the word
Gloucester, because the newcryptozoo is about the
Gloucester sea serpent. And yes,I googled it to see how to
pronounce it, because it lookslike it's glauchester. No,

no, never, never say that. You will anger the
townspeople.

I knew better than that. I Googled it, and the
little, the little AI woman withthe lips, told me Gloucester.
And I'm like, okay, cool. I justlet's get Correia in here before
we get to talking about NewEngland. Yeah. Also with us is
your other, other host, Jon,Correia, how you doing Correia?

Jonathan Correia (01:30):
Doing? Well, that reminds me of the of that.
I think it's a Reddit post wheresomeone said, What's the hardest
thing to say? And the first postwas saying goodbye to a loved
one, and then under it waswarchester. Oh no, no, it's
Worcester. I think they werethey, they meant, like,
warchester, sauce, uh, as iswhat they meant. But yeah, no,

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in New England, it's notwarchester. It's Worcester.

I was at rocking shock and at a Q&A like,
somebody called it warchester,and the audience booed them,

man. And if you're super New England, it's
like, Wooster, that's

the other thing. Even regionally within
New England is different,because I was even afraid that
the that the little AI womanwith the lips was going to be
wrong, and it's actually goingto be Glaston. But I'm like,
Nope, I'm I'm going to pick oneand stick with it. Gloucester.
Hey, man,

at least we don't, at least it's not as bad
as, like, what should be ourKansas is Arkansas. Like, how
the how does that make anysense? Yeah,

I've heard podcasts that talk about, I live
just a little west of El Cajon,which is, it's kind of a suburb
of San Diego, and I hearpodcasts all the time. Say in El
Cajun California, I'm like no,or La Jolla, no. Anyway, it's

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been a while since we talked.
What's been happening with youguys? Quite

a lot. Speaking of New England, while I was in
Gloucester, there was a VincentPrice and horror Art Gallery at
the Cape and community theater.
It was like a small independentcinema, but yeah, Victoria price
herself actually christened ithad all this amazing art of
Vincent Price and likeChristopher Lee and Classic

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Monsters and they did have abunch of art of the Gloucester
sea serpent, both classical andnew.

I was going to ask if you saw the statue
that they've seen that statue?
Yeah. They unveiled a statue in2017 200 years after the initial
rash of sightings in 1817,listen to the crypto zoo for
more there. Sorry,

I gotta listen to that, because, yeah, I got, I
got family in Gloucester, and mystepmom actually painted a mural
of the Gloucester sea serpentfor the town.

Oh, there was a guy in 1955 who painted a
mural, but he claimed it wasquite a quadtle. But now I'm
just giving away all of thegoods on the podcast. Go listen
to the grip position,

not a shameless plug, but really do
listen to it. Jay. Jay did areally good work of like,
boiling down to like, the thebasics of knowing, like, what
these creatures are. And no,I've been thoroughly enjoying
it. And

also these episodes The Jersey Devil. One
gets a little long. It's like 25minutes, but most of these are
between 10 and 15 minutes. Sothey're little bite sized
things. There's always time foran episode of cryptozoo. Okay,
this is not a five minutecommercial for the cryptus,

yeah. But James, check out, check out the
pictures I posted from thegallery. I think you'd like the
art of the cluster C server.
Cool.

Yeah. I will.
I totally will. What have youguys been seeing? I think the
big release since we talkedthat, I know we've all seen
Alien Romulus. Yes,

yes. What do you guys think of alien Romulus?
Well, I sawit in the best environment
possible, because the AmericanCinematheque did a premiere
screening at the Egyptiantheater playing the original.
Uh, Ridley Scott Alien, beforeAlien Romulus. So they did as a
double feature. And since, youknow, Romulus takes place after
Alien, it just, you know,directly leads into it. So it

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was so much fun to see it likethat. Nice.

Yeah, it's definitely, it's definitely the
summer of the R rated Disney fanservice hits, because between
Deadpool and Wolverine and AlienRomulus, we're just, they're
just giving the fans everythingthat's familiar, really. Uh, I
do have to say I think Romulusdid it better in that like it.

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It was very fan servicey. Youknow, it had all the moments
that you've that you've seenbefore, that you've had before,
but it did its own spin on it.
So not

all that landed with me. I'll get into
it. Go ahead, but yeah, some ofthe fan service didn't quite hit
with me, yeah,

but I really had a lot of fun with it. Man,
that was just a fun movie.

Yeah, no, I'm kind of with Jay that some of
this fan service felt too tackedon. I also kind of felt almost
like they were Studio, you know,additions, you know, just to
make the point home. Butoverall, though, you know, just
people have to separate thatfrom the movie itself, because
the movie itself is awesome. Youknow, you got a bunch of

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struggling 20 somethings on aspace station that's filled to
the guild of aliens, what's notto love?

I didn't love it. I liked it just fine. I
actually watched all the Alienmovies leading up to it. And I
mean, it's a topic for anothertime, but Covenant is really
underrated. I think Covenant isa pretty solid movie, but thank
you. I think Romulus kind of is.
It's middle of the road. I mean,it clearly isn't as bad as, you
know, Resurrection or three, butit's kind of middle of the road.

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And my issue with it is, Ireally like the first half, like
the setup of the thing, youknow, the reason they're getting
up there, basically the, likeJacob said, these 20 somethings,
they want to go up to this shipbecause they want to steal the
cryo pads, or, you know,whatever they sleep in, because
they want to get to anotherworld. And of course, the ship
that they go to is overrun byaliens. And I really like the

(07:10):
first probably half, and then itfelt like they were just
throwing everything they couldinto this movie. And this is
some of the fan service that wewere talking about. It didn't
all stick with me. It just feltit. It just felt like it was
like a kitchen sink movie. Andthen I, I'm, it's probably an
unpopular opinion, but the bigbaddie that they fight, I

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thought was just ridiculous. I'mlike, come on, you guys, really
anyway,

although I do also appreciate all the
practical effects, like theanimatronic alien, it did look
cool as that.

I really appreciated the world building
and leaning more into Waylandenterprises, showing the mining
world, showing like, oh yeah,yes, yeah. Because at the end of
the day, the real villain of theAlien franchise all the movies
has been Waylon. Waylon Yutani.
Whelan Yutani. There we go.
It's, it's the xenomorphs havealways just been an ID. It's

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been just a creature that's kindof caught in it. You know, if
Waylon utani wasn't, you know,messing with them, we wouldn't
be having these issues. So Ireally enjoyed, like, seeing,
like the actual real world, likeeconomic outside of just like
people on ships, effects of itmore so like seeing, you know,
people's like contracts beingextended and dying in the mines.

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I enjoyed that evil corporation,Waylon

Yutani, Building Better worlds, baby. Yeah,

it was, it was really, it was really good. And,
you know, and especially oncethey and then when they get to
the ship, I really, really,really, really appreciated, to
no ends, just going for thegenitalia horror that is the
Alien franchise. Like theyreally, like they really made
genitalia disgusting again. AndI appreciated that especially

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well my partner did notappreciate me referring to the
Xenomorph egg as the coocussy,but I said it about five or six
times on the drive homeexcitedly, and I'm now banned
from saying that word in thehouse, so this is probably the
last time I'm able to saycoocussy, so I'm going to say it

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one more time. coocussy, okay,

but let's see, did you guys see Cuckoo?

I did not.
No, they didn't screen that forpress, which is usually a bad
sign, but neon has been doingthat this year. I was lucky. We
got a Longlegs screening. But isdid you see cuckoo Korea?

Did I see the third Dan Stevens movie to come
out this

year? Worse.
Now, don't spoil anything aboutit.

No about it.
Or Dan Stevens, about

cuckoo. You could spoil all you want about
Dan Stevens. I will say this

is probably the least sexiest role. Of Dan
Stevens to come out this year.
Um, but then again, how do youtop Ace Ventura, uh, kaiju
veterinarian from Godzilla.

So wait, this is least less sexy than Abigail,
because he wasn't that sexy inAbigail. Yeah,

he's less sexy than when he's playing a cop.
And that's he's

very euro in this movie, like both accent Ed
demeanor.

It's not so much that he's European as,
like, a German, I

mean, and I mean, like European, I mean,
like, stylistically, Euro, youknow, like, like Abba, but,
yeah. But anyway, the Cuckoo, Ithought was a lot of fun. And
also got to give big props toHunter Schaefer, because she was
amazing in this movie. And Ireally loved how dimensional her
character was. And there's somereal creepiness to cuckoo, just

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like it does so much of a goodjob in building the tension. And
it's like this, like she movesinto with her estranged father
and stepmother and stepsister tothis resort in the Swiss Alps,
and there's some weird shitgoing down, because you're not
supposed to be out at night, andthere's all these rules. And

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yeah, Dan Stevens, with hisextremely Euro accent, is acting
really creepy. So I thought, Ithought it was a lot of fun. I
really, really dug it. And Ireally hope Hunter Schaefer does
more horror. Is like, she reallygoes for it in this movie, like,
because she starts out fine, andthen she gets injury after
injury after injury. And it'skind of like Ash, where it just

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shows throughout the wholemovie, like she's got a she's
got a cast, she's got like, ahead bandage she has on for most
of the movie. So, yeah, she shegoes through and again, don't
want to spoil anything, but whenthey do go into why the movie's
called cuckoo, it just, it's areally twisted meaning to the
movie. And I dug it also. I lovethat people are comparing it to

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Dario argentos Phenomena, whichI get because, yeah, it is. It
does kind of feel like aspiritual sequel, or kind of
connection there, just kind oflike Hunter Schaefer to Jennifer
Connolly. But, yeah, no, I youknow, I guess this wasn't Dan
Stephen sexiest movie this year,but he did get to do some cool

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stuff, and he got to be a realcreep. So what was down for
that?

Well, I don't want to say that cuckoo wasn't
sexy at times. I'm just sayingDan Stevens's role wasn't that
he was, he was no, no. That's

what I was thinking about him. That's what
I was saying. Yeah. I

mean, no, I loved cuckoo. I thought it was
really solid. I think my onlygripe with cuckoo isn't really
with cuckoo. It's just the theworry I we went and saw it
opening night because I had thatfear where the trailers and the
hype and everything was, this isthis movie's batshit bonkers.
This movie's crazy. Oh my god.
It was like a similar type oflike, verbiage and hyperbole

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that was happening withImmaculate and I waited too long
for immaculate, so I had itbuilt up in my head that how
insane Immaculate was going tobe, and it, of course, didn't
live up to that insane image Ihad in my mind. So I think that
cuckoo is another example ofthat where it's like you just
got to kind of go in as blind aspossible and just enjoy the

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ride, because it's really goodmovie, but some of those reviews
made it sound way more insanethan it really was. It's still
pretty crazy. And some of thestuff they pull off and some of
the things they do in it arereally effective and and pretty
crazy, but like, yeah, it's,it's, it's not, you're not gonna
be hit in the face with insanitythe entire time, like, it's just

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a really solid film, you know.
But Hunter Schaefer, yeah, Igive, give, give her all the
role she I never watchedeuphoria, so I didn't know about
Hunter Schaefer until thismovie, and she was phenomenal at
it isn't

Sydney Sweeney, also from euphoria,

yeah, the euphoria kids are all growing.
It's

gonna say that's a that's a pretty
impressive little cast there.

Well, Sidney Sweeney's not in in this wood,
but yeah, euphoria.

I mean euphoria, Yeah, cuz Sidney
Sweeney's busting out.

Yeah, well, and that Zendaya is in a couple
of movies too.

I didn't know Zendaya was in euphoria as well.
Oh,

I was being sarcastic. But yes, she is,
yeah, she's the lead in it.
Yeah, yeah, okay.

I haven't watched euphoria and

and that guy from Saltburn, Jacob

Davison, guy, Jacob Laurie, yeah, yeah, he's

in euphoria as well. There's a bunch of people.
The guy who is in Abigail, theone who passed, he was euphoria
as well the young one. Anyways,yeah, I haven't watched euphoria
so. But anyway,

what we're saying is that more euphoria
actors should do more horror.
And also Hunter Schaefer isdoing that new mysterious horror
game by hodeo Kojima with UdoKier.

So we got something, Ooh, that sounds
dope.

What about we're going way back, kind of
right now. Did you guys seeTrap? Fuck yeah, I saw Trap.
Okay,

I saw a trap.

You guys know that I'm a Shyamalan fanboy, and
so I loved Trap. I thought thetrap was awesome it. Um, I think
that if it was not a Shyamalanmovie, I wouldn't think it was
as awesome. You know, it, itdefinitely had the Shyamalan
stamp. Um, I think I liked itmore when they were actually at
the concert, because it gets toa point. I mean, it's been out

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long enough I'm going to spoil alittle bit. They do get away
from the concert for for the endof the movie. And I think it
kind of loses steam there. Andshamelines daughter cannot act,
and she takes on a bigger roletowards the end of the movie.
But Josh Hartnett knows exactlythe kind of movie he's in, and
he is so he's such a deliciousvillain in this movie. I mean,

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I'm kind of spoiled saying he'sa villain, but

oh yeah, pretty well implied in the trailer.
Yeah,

yeah. My God, trap Shyamalan. Will I ever not
love a movie? Well, Asterix forThe Last Airbender. But,

yeah, no, I saw it too, and I really dug it for
the most part, although I feltlike the third act kind of lost
steam toward the end. Yep, couldhave, could have been tightened
up a bit more, maybe cut down abit. But, I mean, all the stuff
with the concert was great, likeit was very Brian De Palma. I
mean, hell, there was so manysplit diopter shots. Oh, split

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diopter shots. Oh, you,

you, you know, I love the split diopter shot.
So, you know, every time thosepopped up, Lindsay even said on
the drive home, she was like,they did that too much. I was
like, No, they didn't do itenough. Not enough movies these
days do that. So thank you, MNight for just like, overloading
with

it. Yeah, and I was going to say that you love
split diopter shots almost asmuch as you love Josh Hartnett.
Yeah,

I was waiting for a shot with Josh Hartnett in
one side and an owl in theother.

Oh, man, I had so much fun with trap. Just so
much it was I think Jacob did agood comparison of like 70s
DePalma, because in the 70sthere was a lot of Hitchcockian
copycats, or Hitchcockianthrillers that were coming up.

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Brian De Paul, obviously,putting out some of the best of
them. And it felt very of thatenergy, very of that style. It
was that kind of setup. Butthere were so many aspects of
it, because M Night has been onever since The Visit, been on a
real kick of doing comedy withhis horror and with his
thrillers, and it doesn't alwayswork. And I think when we left,

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I said he didn't always makegood choices with this movie,
but he always made the rightchoices. And that there's
there's some things in thismovie that just should not have
worked, but because they didn'twork, it did. It was, it was a
weird mental jump of like, thisisn't a so bad, it's good movie.
It's just a fun movie, a happymiss with, like, a lot of happy

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mistakes for me. And just remindme of a lot of films that were
used to come out back in theday, like the 80s. You know,
where you're like, man, thatthing was ridiculous, but

it was a lot of fun. That's what I'm saying.
If this was not a Shyamalanmovie, if this was just some
random director, you'd be all,what is this crap? But because
we ex, we know what to expectfrom Shyamalan. I loved it. I
thought it was so much fun. Oh,I get what you're saying about
the comedy, mainly the what wasthe guy's name? The merch
salesman that he befriends,Jamie. Oh yeah, his name, that

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guy was hilarious.

There was so I didn't loving checking in every
now and then to see letterboxreviews on this one, because
there's been so many good ones.
Like someone said, Why couldn'tthis take place at a Weird Al
concert? You know. But there'sjust like, so much, like little
little thing, or American PsychoTaylor's version, you know,

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stuff like that. But it's, Ijust had so much fun. There's
just so many weird moments that,like, feed into it. A lot of
people have been questioning ifM Night has ever had a
conversation with an actualhuman being? Because, especially
with this movie, theconversations between people do
not feel real at all and feelvery alien. But it kind of works

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with Hartnett being a psychokiller and not and like having
those separate lives where, likehim being a human isn't really
his thing. So it's like a frontso there's this really weird,
like, when he's doing it, itmakes sense, where it's like,
oh, this kind of sounds likewhat a person would or a not
human being would think a humanbeing talks, but then other

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people are doing it. So it justadds to this weird world of
like, wait, what's going on? Andthen, like, you're, you're.
Questioning things. And again, Idon't know if that was
intentional with some of it, butit worked really well for me.
And you know what, I'm just alsoreally glad he only had three
endings to this movie, asopposed to, like Old that had 20
endings, and one of one of thethings, because it kept going. I

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was just really happy, because Igot worried, because in the
opening credits, I didn'trealize the Allison Pill was in
the movie. And when they got to,like, the end of the concert, I
was like, Where the fuck isAllison Pill? You don't get to
promise me Allison pill and notdeliver. And they delivered. She
was fantastic. Yeah,

she doesn't show up until the third that
third act. But yeah, it I lovethat, calling it American Psycho
Taylor's version. That's that'sthe great way to put it. Cooper

is now the voice of my, of my ADHD inner
thoughts. Just that whole scene,when the the rapper comes out of
the floorboards and he turns tohis daughter's like, hey, why
don't we go? What's down there?
Let's go down into the basement.
She's like, No, no, Dad, we'renot going come on. It'll be fun.
We won't get in trouble. I waslike, No,

I will say though, one of the funniest
scenes in the movie to me waswhen he was with the merch guy
isolated in the stock room, andhe's like, Hey, thanks for
helping out here. Hold thisexacto knife while I turn my
back around and completelyunassuming.

Like, come on, you can't tell me that that
wasn't done like, stuff like,that wasn't done for comedy.
Like, yeah, take it too serious.
But like, I also am really glad,because at least amongst my
friends, I'm seeing a lot ofpeople just they seem to get it.
You know that it's, and that'snot one of those like, Oh, you
just don't get the film. It's,it's how you it's one of those
things. Again, you can go into amovie with expectations, but you

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really should allow yourself tojust go for the ride. And that
film, almost like, very quickly,just established this weird
world, this weird way oftalking, this weird, like,
environment where it's, like,you kind of just have to let it
wash over you, and it's, it's,it's just a blast. And also,

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Ariel Donahue was really good as

the as the daughter Riley, oh, yeah, no,
she's, she stood up and, and,yeah, I

just, also just inherently, it's, it's,
it's hilarious that M Night waslike, I he has flat out said I
wanted to do a concert film formy daughter. So I made, so I
made a thriller based around andit's like, yeah, dude, that's,
that's a that's a dad knowing,hey, I can do this if we if I do

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it through, like, what mybranding is. And, yeah, he
killed it, man, like that was,yeah, I had a lot of fun with
it. Oh, def, that's gonna be amidnight watch for me for a long
time. Did you

do you guys see blink twice? Not yet.
Not yet. Okay, blink twiceis I really liked it. But the
thing is, leaving the theaterafter blink and they're they're
being kind of weird about it.
They don't want us pushing it asa horror movie. They want to go
more like a thriller. Um, butit's pretty horrific in places.

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And leaving the theater, Iwasn't sure what to think about
it, but on the way home, my wifeand I just could not stop
talking about it. And even intothe next day we were talking
about it, and I still, you know,it's been a couple weeks since
I've seen it, and it, it stillis stuck in my head. It's, it's
kind of, it's Zoe Kravitz wroteand directed it, and it's

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basically about this woman whomeets like a like, this tech
billionaire dude, and he invitesher to his private island where
all of his buddies are partying.
And, you know, stuff happens.
And I thought it was going to goin like a Get Out direction, but
it turned out going more like,Don't worry, darling. And that's

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all, that's all I want to say,because it there are a lot of
fun twists in it that are, thatare just better experienced. You
know yourself, but it is. It'sreally, it's a thinker. It
really like, I need to see itagain, because there are little
things that I think you'll pickup on a second time through that

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make sense toward the becauseit's one of those movies where
the whole time I'm like, pleasemake this make sense. Please
make this make sense. And theypretty much make it make sense.
In the end, I think it went onescene too long, meaning like the
very last scene, to me, felt alittle tacked on. And when you

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see it, you'll you'll know whatI mean by that, but it's, it's a
pretty impressive movie. I'm alittle bummed that it hasn't
been getting, I mean, it's notbeen doing super well at the box
office, but it's, it's, if youlike, that kind of Get Out kind
of thing, although they don't gofull Get Out, you know, like I

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thought they. We're gonna do.
There's a point in the moviewhere I'm like, Okay, this is
get out. And then about 10minutes later I'm like, oh,
okay, it's not get out.

I'm just disappointed they didn't release
it under its original title ofpussy Island.

I think is that really what the original
title was? Yeah, that's true.
Oh, I didn't. Oh, wow. Okay.

That is what Zoe Kravitz called the movie.
That is what she was shopping itaround as, and the studios,
well, frankly, pussyed out andsaid, No, we can't release it as
pussy Island. And it's like, no,yes, you can. Yes you can. We
just had a hard hittinggenitalia horror hat like slap
us in the face and wigglearound. Or a few weeks ago, we

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could handle that word in atitle, come on, but also
marketability, whatever. Yeah,no, I do really want to see it.
I just was too preoccupied thisweek, and unfortunately,

honestly, calling it pussy island would
have, would have kind ofcheapened it, because it's not a
like pussy. Calling a pussyisland would make it sound like
a freaking Porky's kind of a,you know it. But calling it
blink twice is actually apretty, a pretty app name for
it, because there's parts wherethey like joke about they're

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like a blink twice if you're indanger, you know, kind of a
thing. So

I like the idea, though, of something
sounding like a Porky'sadventure, and it being like a
horror thriller, where it's likenot that at all. It's like the
opposite. That's great, yeah.

Also, I want to give a shout out to this short
movie I found a few days ago.
It's this new release from aprolific Japanese stop motion
artist named to Kenan negau,who's got his own YouTube
channel. It's called MidnightVampire, and it's pretty basic.
It's just about this vampirewoman that is awakes from her

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slumber to feed on some people.
But there's some twists, becauseit turns out that the guy she's
drinking blood from is a part ofa group of even worse guys, and
it goes even crazy from there.
And I'm just a sucker for stopmotion horror. So there's ample
amounts of claymation blood andgore. It's good stuff. Look it

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up on YouTube, Midnight vampire.
It's a good it's good watch.

Have either you guys watched that show that
was on like, a few years backthe 100

No, I missed that one. It

was on one of those flash deals on voodoo
where you get like, the wholeseries for like 10 bucks or
something. And I've been burningmy way through it. I'm only, I
guess there's like seven seasonsand there, and I'm only halfway
through season two, and it'sfunny, but basically what it is
is there's a nuclear wardestroys the earth, and the only
people alive are on all of thespace stations in orbit. And

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they all kind of come together,and they join it together, and
they call it the ark, and thenthey send they're, they're
basically child prisoners,because when people break the
law, they execute them, exceptif they're under 18, so the only
prisoners they have arechildren. So they send them down
and they're the 100 in to see ifthe Earth is habitable again.

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And of course, you know stuffhappens. And during the first
season. I was like, how are theygoing to get seven seasons out
of this? But then you realize,as stuff happens, you're like,
okay, yeah, they're going to getseven seasons out of this. But
it's, um, it's kind of, it'spart like, life. Remember that
movie life, the alien Yeah,

the the alien one, yeah, yeah. It's

part, like life and part Lord of the Flies,
because it turns out they're notalone on the ground. Even when
they go down there, there aresurvivors from the war, and
that's, you know, that's wherethe thing's going. But it's a
pretty interesting little watch.
I've been getting kind of into

it. Well, speaking of voodoo deals, Voodoo
had a $5 deal for the film Stingthat came out earlier this year.
I

love to watch that, oh, five bucks on voodoo.

Oh man, it is so much fun. It's from the
director and creator of thewormwood series. We also did
Necrotronic. So it's and it's somuch fun. Wait, Jacob, I thought
you did see Sting? No, I know

I saw infested.
You know that other spider one?
Oh,

that's right, with so many good spider movies
coming up

this year, oh, infested and sting came out
about the same time. So yeah, wewere because we joked about what
a good year it is for for mutantspider movies. Well,

I also had a moment because I was like, Wait,
yeah, isn't this director goingto go do an Evil Dead spin off?
Because apparently there's like,three Evil Dead projects in the
works right now. So I got realexcited about that, but that's
not this director that wasinfested. Anyways, Sting is so
much fun. Yeah? As in. Jay saidbefore, like with the mute
spider, is from outer space.
It's, I mean, just so much ofit, there was a lot of evil,

(30:07):
dead influence with it as, likea horror comedy, but it reminded
me also a lot of of UnknownOrigin. Ooh, that's

a good one.
Yeah. I

When the movie ended, I was like, these would
make a great double feature ofjust people going nuts in an
apartment building with like acreature. But it was just so
much fun, so funny and like,it's one of those rare examples
where the child character wasactually really well written and
wasn't annoying. We've beenencountering that too much

(30:39):
lately with various things whereI'm like, yeah, it was good, but
the kid was not written well,but Aaliyah Brown as Charlotte
was just because, of course,Charlotte, it was just
phenomenal. And the practicaleffects were awesome. The setup
was great. There's a reallygreat bit with the family's

(31:01):
grandmother having amnesia. Andso the movie opens up, or
Alzheimer's, so she keepsforgetting. But the movie opens
up setting up like she calls anexterminator and a cut, and the
exterminator comes and getseaten by, or attacked by the
spider. And then she sits downand hears a noise on the wall

(31:21):
and gets back up and callsanother exterminator. And it's
like, is she just, like,bringing exterminators to this
house or to this apartment, andthey're getting killed by
spiders? And it like, justestablishes, establishes like
the horror and the comedy of themovie. So Well, they go on to
explain it and do more withthat, but, yeah, it's just, it's

(31:41):
such a fun movie, like, if fivebucks, it's well worth the price
of admission.

Alila Brown, the the actress, she was young
Furiosa in Furioso, she she wasthe young before she became Anya
Taylor joy, which

Lindsay pointed that out. I was like,
oh, oh. And Lindsey's like, Oh,you didn't recognize how much
No, because they CG didn't Heyeyed around her face. She got
older. They like, helped make itlook more like on a tailor. I
think it was the older, olderactress they did that with. But,
yeah, no. Sting is a blast.
Highly recommend.

The the spider is named after the sword
and The Hobbit, yeah, oh yeah.
Sting, not after the wrestler orthe rock star, the sword and The
Hobbit. More things need

to be named.
Sting,

yeah, we're we need more. Sting, uh, names in
the public conscious again. And

Did you guys ever see grand piano?

Oh yeah, yeah, with Elijah Wood, right?

Yeah, so yeah, yeah, that's

it's Phone Booth on a stage. Yes,

thank you, because I just recently watched
Phone Booth, and absolutelyfucking loved it. And was just
like, this movie is awesome, andLarry Cohen should have sold
more scripts, because, damn,yeah, phone booth was, oh man,
oh man. The both of those movieswere on my pile of you've owned
the blu ray for two years. What?
Either watch it or get rid ofit. And so I watched him, and

(33:11):
instead of selling him, I'mkeeping him, because I loved him
so much. But grand piano,especially, uh, grand

piano, it's taken a step further than phone
booth, because, like, there'sthis concert pianist, which is
Elijah Wood, and he's performingthis piece that he has. It's
like, his big comeback. Andbasically there's a sniper who's
like, if you make a mistake, I'mshooting you. There's like, an
added level, you know, it's notjust like, you know, you're in

(33:41):
this phone booth and a sniperis, you know, trained on you.
It's like, you can't fuck thispiece up that you fucked up
before. Yeah,

it's, it's a nice, I've said it a couple of
times this podcast. It's a nicekind of hitch, a cocky and
thriller that takes place injust mainly the opera house
where he's performing. So a lotof the film rests on Elijah Wood
selling a him not only playingthe piano, but also just like

(34:10):
being terrified and trying tofollow the commands of this
mysterious sniper, who's playedby John Cusack to not get shot
or have his wife shot too. Thatwas, does the other part of it,
and I don't want to spoil on whythey're doing all of it, but
it's, it's really solid. It's alot of fun. And it was written

(34:30):
by Damien Chazelle before he didwent on to do whiplash. And so
yeah, he loves torturingmusicians. I don't know what he
has against musicians, but heloves putting them in rough
situations, whether it'swhiplash or Babylon. You know,
Elijah

Wood and Miles Teller should form a band.
Damien Chazelle will will writetheir music,

and they'll spend millions of dollars to
make it. Yeah,

I. But it's really solid. I highly recommend
finding it somewhere. It cameout in like 2013 so, you know,
it was during that Magnoliamagnet era of like them, just
putting out a lot of genrefilms. And I was pleasantly
surprised. I thought it wasgoing to be a fun background
movie while I was working onstuff, and I ended up putting
down all my projects to watchit.

Yeah, it's pretty engaging. I mean,
surprisingly, so, I mean, it's,it's not just him sitting at a
piano, you know, the whole time.
You know, there are parts whereit goes to different parts of
the of the theater. So it's not,I mean, it sounds boring to say,
oh, you know, this guy isplaying a piano with a sniper on
him, you know. No, there's a lotmore to it than that, but

even so, like the camera work in kind of
taking on that challenge of it,of it being so centered around
him. Playing the piano was donereally well, and John Cusack
does a really good job, and Alexwinter too. It was just so great
seeing him pop up. Like everytime he popped up, a huge smile
went on my face, and I was like,You know what? I think I do need

(36:02):
to rewatch the trilogy again,which, by the way, in my in my
house, I referred to the trilogyas the Bill and Ted trilogy. I
know some people might be like,Oh, is it Star Wars? Is it Lord
of rings? No, it's Bill and Ted.

On my end, I watched Hundreds of Beavers for
the fourth time this year,introducing it to some friends
of mine from high school,

they are single handedly getting their
budget back due to yourviewings.

Yeah, no, I'm I'm the hundreds of beavers
preacher. I'm introducing theword of hundreds of beavers to
all my friends and family. Thepeople must know you're

just going door to door. Have you heard the
good word of hundreds ofbeavers? Exactly,

but no, I mean, it was, it was just so good,
like we were just hanging out atmy friend's place having some
drinks, and during the scenewhere he's got that one beaver
tied to a boulder, and then hegoes, oh shit, and the beaver
starts swinging the boulderaround. We lost our we lost it
so badly. We left so hard, like,one of my friends was rolling on

(37:04):
the couch. It's, it's just sucha fun group movie.

It's a ridiculous movie which is so
good, yeah, that's what makes itfun, I think in a group probably
all right, it's, it's just sojust this mixture of, like, have
you? Have you not seen it Korea?
No,

and I've heard so many things, and I just
looked it up on voodoo, and it's$8 so I was like, All right,
we'll do it because dude, yeah,

no, you, you absolutely have to see it. Yeah,

we rented it for $3 off of Amazon,

yeah, but now I can own it for eight oh yeah,
no,

there you go.

It's worth owning.

Oh yeah,

I was, I was waiting for it to be available
to own, because it has beenavailable to rent for like, 15
and things of that nature. And,you know, I'm just like, ah,
yeah, you know, when it whenit's available to own? Like,
I'll pay $15 to own, you know,but it going for eight on voodoo
right now. Oh, yeah. So I willbe watching it soon I'll, who

(38:02):
knows, maybe I'll become aconvert and be a disciple of
hundreds of beavers soon.

It's just the perfect mix of Looney Tunes and
freaking Mario Brothers and like

Buster Keaton, yeah, silent era slapstick. And,
yeah, no, just, just watch it.
And, you know, get sent. Send mea review. You will not be
disappointed.

I'm curious, has anyone watched Borderlands?

I did. Oh, I did.

Jay, did you see I did

not. No, no,

Jacob, what did you think of Borderlands?

Well, did you see Borderlands?

I did not.
I've been curious on what otherpeople have I was waiting for.
The reviews the game seriesnever appealed to me, and that's
mainly just because, like, RPGsare really hard for me to get
into.

It's not even really an RPG. It's a first
person shooter with, like, lootmechanics, yeah,

it's a massive customization and stuff like
that. Yeah, I'm very I, I'm anold man when it comes to video
games, I kind of need to, like,be set on a, like, a specific
path. I think, like, I they needto be able to full ADHD out, or
not at all, and and so stufflike Skyrim or things like that,

(39:17):
where there's too muchcustomization, my ADHD goes too
hard, and I will spend like,days just like, customizing one
stupid thing, and I can't, Ican't do that with my life.
It's, it's, I know me too well,but, yeah, no, the game's just
never really appealed. But youknow, I mean, an action, you
know, comedy with CateBlanchett, you know I'm, you

(39:38):
know, my interest

the cast is incredible,

yeah, even with the cast, though, this movie was
awful. Sorry, this was not agood movie, man. It's a mess. It
just feels because the problemis, is that it just felt like
such a paint by the numbers,like test audience churned out.
Film, and, like, I played thegames, and it just boggles the

(40:04):
mind, because there was a lot ofmaterial they could have mined
from in order to make a prettyfun action sci fi adventure
movie. But yeah, no, theywhiffed it. They whiffed it
hard. And, you know, I'm usuallypretty forgiving, especially
with these types of movies, butoh man, it was, it was not that
good. And not gonna lie, I eventalked up before the movie to

(40:25):
help with that. But yeah, no, itjust didn't really do it for me.
Very poorly written. And I mean,yeah, it has an amazing cast,
but it just really didn't have alot of material to work with.
And yeah, like all thecharacters aren't really
developed or written that. Andeven though, like in the games,
they have better developmentthan in this movie, and yeah,

(40:47):
there's so much they could havedone to make it fun or just
really go to town with theeffects. And the other thing is
that it was downgraded PG 13. Ithink it was originally supposed
to be, are down to PG 13. Sothey had to tone down the
violence, which is ridiculousfor a movie like this based on
Borderlands, but on the plusside, I got that sweet claptrap
popcorn bucket. So

it makes me wonder if Cate Blanchett and Eli
Roth are drinking buddies. Andyou know, because she clearly
lost a bar bet to him.

Well she did at the house with the clock in its
walls before. So, yeah, her andJack Black had prior experience
with them. And also, that's theother thing too. I heard that,
uh, Eli Roth dropped out, or,like, left early to do
Thanksgiving, and Tim Miller,you know, from Deadpool, had to
ghost direct the rest of themovie. Really,

I didn't know that. Okay.

I mean, that's what I heard, yeah, because Eli
Roth's name is still on it.
Yeah, no, he's still thecredited director. But, yeah, I
heard that like somebody has todo a deep dive on the
production, because it soundedlike there was a lot of trouble
production in this productionthat that

the documentary about the behind the
scenes is probably moreinteresting than it would be,
yeah,

which, speaking of troubled productions
and trouble getting off thegrounds, I can finally talk
about a movie I saw earlier.

Embargo lifted from three months ago.

I don't know, but you know, so you can talk
about it. Now it's out, so Iguess I can admit that I saw the
new crow movie. And oh yeah,boy, boy, boy, boy, boy. Things
I liked about it. There's somereally great action scenes,

(42:31):
because, as we all know, whatthe story of the crow? He's a
musician who's in love, and himand his lover get killed, and so
he comes back because of magicand crows and, you know, get it
becomes a spirit of vengeance. Ireally liked that in this new
crow movie by Rupert Sanderswith Bill scazgard, that they

(42:51):
really leaned into with therevenge that he's not a trained
killer, he's not he's not afighter, he's not anything. He's
just, you know, a machine gun,Kelly Jared, Leto Joker looking
motherfucker, and so he doesn'treally know how to fight. So
there's some really good fightsequences that like the setup
and like how it's playing out.
Feels like a John Wick typefight scene, but he has no idea

(43:15):
what he's doing, so he's justgetting the shit beaten out of
him and shot up, and he's kindof almost winning, because he
just can't die. And I reallyappreciated those aspects.

It's the Homer Simpson just let him punch
you until they get too tired.

That's, that's kind of, there's a fight
sequence that takes place in amoving car where he just kind of
like jumps in and they and theyall start going, and they like
shoot him a few dozen timesthroughout it, and it's just,
and it's really great on how badhe was doing, but because
they're just like, What thefuck? And run out of bullets,
and then he's able to hit themafter is really good. The final,

(43:53):
the finale, had some good actionin it, but there's just
something still inherentlydoesn't sit right about someone
in a black trench coat showingup to a packed theater with guns
that in America still doesn'tfeel great. He comes off more
Columbine shooting than likeanti hero. With that, the action

(44:17):
is still really good. There's alot more of, you know, the you
know, getting fucked up and thennot being able to die, so coming
back. But like, outside of that,the mythos is very muddied. The
love story is very rough, likeit, it just felt like it was
like a the timeline felt weird,like it didn't feel like these

(44:40):
were lifetime lovers. They feltlike they had a really great
week together, and then tragedystruck type deal, and so that
the impact there wasn't great.
But I think its biggest crimeis, and I hate this when they
when people do gritty reboots ofthings where they don't allow
certain i. Iconographies of thematerial to come out. So the

(45:01):
crow is very iconic for itswhite and black makeup. They
don't really do that in thisit's it comes off more like
nu-metal makeup or or blackmetal makeup without the white,
where it's just like, you know,the shadow and stuff, which,
like, Fine, you know, okay. Imean, it's a little
disappointing. It's kind of likehow every Punisher movie, except

(45:22):
for warzone, shies away from theskull icon, looking at you, 80s.
Dolph loggin, which is a solidaction film, I will defend that,
but they don't use the skull.
But how he gets the makeup isthe stupidest thing. And I have
to shout this from the rooftops,because it's he his the woman
he's in love with has a tattoothat says, laugh now, cry later.

(45:45):
And he has a stupid line wherehe goes, my life is more like
cry now, cry later. And it'slike, Fuck you for that line.
But then, while, during theirwhole love week, he gets a he
starts to get a tattoo on hishand that says, you know, laugh
now, cry later on his thing. Butthey get they interrupt halfway

(46:05):
of him getting the tattoo andstart making out for some
reason. So later on, before theso right before the finale, he's
sitting there and he's lookingat his unfinished tattoo, and he
like, fills it in. And whileafter he fills it in, he goes,
ink. Oh, and that's the makeup.
He takes black tattoo ink, itrubs it on his face. And that's
the crow makeup. And that mademe want to, like, scream in the

(46:30):
middle of that theater. I thatthat was just, like, just so it
was just so much, yeah, dude,like it, and it's disappointing,
especially when you hear about,like, all the different
developments with it over theyears. But I also don't think
that movie's getting being givenany chance. I think Lionsgate is
putting absolutely no money intothe marketing. Because who who

(46:54):
remembered that that the crowremake was coming up after 20
years of development, basically,you know, I think there's some
like, behind the scenes stuffgoing on that it is, it doesn't
sound fun, but it's, it's, it'sa mess. I do think that it'll,
it will find its audience. I dothink that it hits a very

(47:15):
specific tone. I know at thescreening where I was at, a lot
of people liked it, whichbaffled me, but it was super not
made for me, and that's okay. Ihope that the audience who would
like this movie finds it andenjoys it. But for me, I just
yeah, I'm gonna stick with my mynew 4k of Alex pro Yes,

(47:39):
masterpiece for the time being.
And maybe you know what? I'llrevisit wicked prayer and City
of Angels and all the othersequels that were fine but fun.
Remember how there was a a crowmovie with David boreanis and
Edward Furlong and Tara Reidlike wicked wicked prayer was a

(48:03):
weird movie, especially for acrow film, straight to video.
All

right, well, let's end with the crow, and
let's call this. I hope you guysbear with us for the during this
catch up episode, but you know,we missed an episode, so you get
a whole lot of us talking. Ourtheme music is by restless
spirits. Go give them a listen.
And our artwork is by ChrisFisher, so go give him a like.

(48:30):
And you can find us on all thesocials under @eyeonhorror, or
at ihorror.com, which is thesite we all call home. And we'll
be back in a couple weeks with areal topic, we promise, and we
will see you then. So for me,James, Jay Edwards,

I'm Jacob Davison

And I'm Jonathan Correia.

Keep your eye on horror.

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