October 6, 2025 • 53 mins
This week, the boys are back after Jay's birthday (and has an insane take on PT Anderson movies), Jacob attends A LOT of premieres at Beyond Fest, then Correia finds some new podcasts and gets into Government Conspiracy cover ups about mermaids (living in a casino for a month will do that) before getting into some of their planned Halloween celebrations.
But first! The boys review Good Boy, One Battle After Another, Primate, Night Patrol, V/H/S Halloween, Dust Bunny, The Serpent Skin, Deathstalker, The Smashing Machine, Mermaids: The Body Found, Him, Night of the Reaper, and Star Trek: Khan.
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James Jay Edwards (00:25):
Welcome to Eye on Horror, the official
podcast of iHorror.com. This isepisode 151 otherwise known as
season eight. Episode 11. I amyour host, James Jay Edwards,
and with me, as always, is yourother host, Jacob Davison, how
you doing?
Jacob Davidson (00:41):
Jacob, doing good. Just kind of sleepy.
Getting into why I've been sobusy lately. And also, it's an
appropriately cloudy and gloomysecond day of October. And also
happy Yom Kippur, everyone,
James Jay Edwards (00:58):
yep. And also, my birthday was last week.
Jacob Davidson (01:02):
Oh, Happy belated birthday.
James Jay Edwards (01:03):
It's a, it's a, it's a big week for us. Also
with us, as always, is yourother other host, Jon Correia,
how you doing?
Jonathan Correia (01:11):
Correia? Happy belated birthday. Jay and happy
Yom com, Lord Jacob and everyoneelse. I am getting to the end of
my fourth week out of four and ahalf weeks here in Vegas
working, and I don't know what'sreal anymore. I don't know where
(01:31):
we are. Been up all night. Sothis is the actually my end of
my day. So yeah, I'm lookingforward to going home, seeing
Black Philip and Lindsey andgetting some actual fucking
sleep. That sounds nice.
James Jay Edwards (01:47):
That's funny.
You say seeing Black Philip, ifpeople don't know that's your
cat,
Jonathan Correia (01:52):
oh yes, my cat. Black folk, actually, the
real order is looking forward tomy bidet, my cat, and my fiance
in that order, because, let metell you, hotel toiletries after
a month, after a week, drives aman crazy. I can
Jacob Davidson (02:13):
only imagine.
James Jay Edwards (02:14):
Let's hop right into this. I saw here.
Look, here's the deal. Mybirthday, I went to Disneyland,
and it was totally awesome. AndI got back from Disneyland to in
my email box was a screener forGood Boy. Oh, nice to see Good
Boy. And I think Jacob, you sawthe Beyond Fest, right?
Jacob Davidson (02:37):
Okay, I got to see Indy the dog do a Q&A, okay?
James Jay Edwards (02:41):
So jealous, dude, Good Boy, dude. Correia,
you need to this movie is soawesome. It's so good. The funny
thing is, it uses, it prettymuch uses the regular haunted
house and ghost movie tropes,but because you're seeing it
from the point of view of thestar, it's not really the point
of view of the dog. It's morelike the dog is in every shot of
(03:05):
the movie. So you're kind ofseeing what the dog is doing.
But but it makes these tropesfresh, seeing that, seeing it,
how this dog is seeing it, andit's so good, it's like and
first of all, here's the thingI'm always going to spoil about
movies like this, the dog lives,he doesn't die. So, yeah,
(03:26):
you're, you're safe to go seeit. But this movie is, I mean,
it's, it's both horrifying andheartbreaking. So just because
indie lives does not mean, youknow, he doesn't go through some
shit, but, but it's, you're safeto see it. The dog does not die.
It's so good, though. It makesme feel like a failure as a dog
owner, because this dog is anamazing actor, and they get,
(03:51):
they get a performance out ofthis dog. And did hear it's 73
minutes long the movie. And Idid hear they had 400 shooting
days.
Jacob Davidson (04:01):
So, yeah, it took them three years to make it
like, I think, two yearsproduction and one year post
production.
James Jay Edwards (04:08):
Yeah, so who knows what's on the cutting room
floor. You can do a lot inediting. But Damn, this dog is
hey, give it the Oscar.
Jacob Davidson (04:17):
Give in, give Indy the Oscar. Indeed, the
indeed the dog is his name,
James Jay Edwards (04:22):
yeah, not even the animal performance,
Oscar, Best Actor. Oh, this isso good. What do you think of
Good Boy?
Jacob Davidson (04:30):
I really liked it. I do also agree that it was
kind of an interesting kind ofperspective flip. And the
director, you know, even talkedabout it at the Q and A about
how, you know, it was just kindof Poltergeist from the dog's
point of view. Ben Leonberg,and, yeah, no, I mean, it had
(04:50):
some pretty tense scenes,especially with, you know, it's
like, you're saying the dogseeing. Something that his
master doesn't and also has areally fun Larry Fessenden
cameo, yeah, as as most New Yorkindie horror movies are want to
(05:13):
do. But yeah, no, I thought itwas rather unique. And it Yeah,
for and for, you know, firstfeature film, I thought it was,
was a good effort. And yeah, Imean, it just being at the Q and
A, it sounded like they reallyput in so much effort in into
making this. So you got toappreciate that. And I also have
(05:35):
to add that Indy the dog was atthe Q and A, and had a little
bow tie, and a bandit actuallytaught him how to bow, so he
took a bows, and everybody gaveIndy a silent applause, because,
you know, he's a dog. He can't,like, make loud, you know, loud
noises, so everybody's silent
Jonathan Correia (05:52):
applause. Man, I've just been loving all the
photos coming from that premiereof Indy. He just has, like, the
biggest smile. And I think he'sjust the coolest dog.
James Jay Edwards (06:02):
He's a very charming dog. Even it because
the crux the movie Indy is 100%the main character, all of the
people in this movie, you don'teven really see their faces.
It's either cut off by theangle, or it's in shadow. You
kind of see Larry Fessenden'sface, because he's like the
grandpa, and it's in homemovies, but it's still, it's on
(06:25):
a statically old black and whiteTV. So you, you know it's not
clear. Indy is the onlycharacter you actually see
clearly in this movie. And thatdog is just so well trained and
so charismatic. I mean, thatthat dog is, is is awesome
Jacob Davidson (06:42):
is, yep, who knows? Maybe Indys got a real
career ahead of themselves.
James Jay Edwards (06:47):
Hope so. The best thing about good boy is it
is. It is a gimmick, you know,but it's one that works. But the
best thing about it is that it's73 minutes long, like I said, if
they tried to stretch it anylonger than that, I think the
gimmick would have gotten alittle stale. So it's, it knows
(07:07):
when to get out, which isawesome. And honestly, I've
watched the screener twice justbecause it is 73 minutes and
it's so good. I'm like, oh, youknow what? I have enough time
for good boy. Again, it is, oh,it's so good. This, this is a,
this one's gonna end up in mytop 10. I'm I'm calling it right
now. It's gonna end up somewherein my top 10.
Jonathan Correia (07:29):
That's awesome. I have a so I've been,
I've been in the casino, so Ihaven't been able, you're living
in a casino, I should say. Andso I haven't watched a whole
lot, but one of the new films Ihave seen is One Battle After
Another. Oh, yeah, yes. Did youguys catch that one yet? Yeah, I
saw it
Jacob Davidson (07:47):
in 70 millimeter IMAX at the giant ass universal
AMC theater.
Jonathan Correia (07:52):
Oh, man. I just saw it in the Cinemark XL?
XD Theater, which was nicer thanthe dorm one, but it was still
great. I mean, man, I look PTAnderson, he hasn't, he hasn't
fired a blank yet, like they'veall been, they've all been
fired. And this one, especially,
James Jay Edwards (08:12):
he's fired nothing but blanks since Boogie
Nights. Oh no. I am 100%serious. I am not really a fan
of PT, and I thought I'd goneover this with you guys. I don't
really like PTAs movies, exceptfor Boogie Nights, but really,
but I absolutely love BoogieNights. It's my favorite movie
(08:32):
of all time, and I keep seeinghis movies hoping he makes
another Boogie Nights. AndLicorice Pizza for me, kind of
came close, One Battle AfterAnother, didn't I was not really
a fan of it at all. The onlythings that I liked about it, I
love the score. The JohnnyGreenwood score was awesome. Oh
(08:54):
yeah. And it was very un JonnyGreenwood. It was like, it was
just sparse piano and and wasreal dissonant. So I know a lot
of people who didn't like thescore, they were thinking, they
think it sounds like someonejust putting their hands on
piano, and I can see thatbecause it is real dissonant.
But I thought it worked for themovie really well. And that that
(09:17):
car chase, which, if you know,you know, there's a car chase
towards the end of the moviethat was insanely shot, but the
rest of the movie just didn't,didn't do it for me, but PTA
doesn't do it for me sinceBoogie Nights. So yeah, I was, I
was not a fan. I thought I'dbeen over that with you guys.
No, no. Like comma, my complexrelationship with PTA Well, we
Jonathan Correia (09:43):
know you love Boogie Nights. I mean, you
mentioned Boogie Nights almostas much as I mentioned Star
Trek.
James Jay Edwards (09:49):
I do. I love Boogie Nights and but I don't
really like any of PTAs othermovies. I mean, like I said,
Licorice Pizza, licorice pizza,I did like, but I didn't love.
It's like a distant second toBoogie Nights. But I keep
watching his movies, hoping thelightning is going to strike
twice. But yeah, I One BattleAfter Another. I was not really
(10:11):
a fan of
Jonathan Correia (10:12):
well, I loved it. I thought it was really
smart, because the film hand,like, tackles a lot of, like,
heavy things going on betweenthe revolutionaries and the many
different levels of complexitythat come with that, especially
with the make the character ofthe mother, whose name, the
characters name is escaping me,which she has
James Jay Edwards (10:34):
the coolest name, something Beverly Hills,
yeah,
Jonathan Correia (10:36):
yeah. Like Priscilla. These revolutionaries
James Jay Edwards (10:40):
all have, like, fake names, like, there's,
what is it? Is it Jungle Pussy?
Is that? Well, one of them,yeah, she's like, total
blaxploitation. And thenthere's, it's something like
Tiana Beverly Hills or somethinglike that. And Leonardo
DiCaprio, they call him RocketMan. And Alana Heim is in it
again, and she's Mae West, youknow, these rebel it's kind of
(11:02):
like a Cecil B Demented kind ofthing where, and it seemed I
even had issues with thepolitics they were trying to put
in there, because it seemed likethey shied away from stuff. I
think he could have taken abigger stand on some of the
political stuff, especially forhow timely it was. But also,
speaking of names, that'sactually, it's another thing I
love about this movie. You couldnot have named a character
(11:25):
better than Colonel Lockjaw.
Sean Penn's character, Lockjaw,
Jonathan Correia (11:34):
no Sean, I think that was one of Sean
Penn's best acting and roles inyears. He was phenomenal. And
just everyone was so good,
James Jay Edwards (11:45):
Sean Penn, and it probably was part of the
character, but he was walkingeverywhere, like he had to take
a dump.
Jacob Davidson (11:51):
Yeah, he's very rigid. Also take a step back. It
should be noted that this isbased off a Thomas Pinchon
story, so it's kind of like, youknow, like Inherent Vice. So,
you know, a lot of the namingstems from that,
James Jay Edwards (12:02):
but the pension book took place in
Reagan era 80s. Yeah, no updatedfor modern times. Yeah. And
that's where I think that PTAkind of not, I won't really say
he chickened out, because hewent further than a lot of
filmmakers have been, but Ithink he could have tackled some
of the things like theconcentration camps and stuff
like that. A little more headon,
Jacob Davidson (12:23):
yeah, although I think also just a lot of the
focus of the movie is also justthe kind of pass off of
generational revolutions and theproblems of the past coming to
haunt the children of the nextgeneration. Because, you know, a
lot of it is just about RocketMan trying to connect with his
(12:44):
daughter, and like he's kind offallen on the wayside of the
revolution and is just kind ofobsessed with hiding insecurity
and but, yeah, the world'scatching up to him and his
daughter. So, you know, it'sunavoidable,
Jonathan Correia (12:58):
yeah? And I mean, the movie opens up with
them breaking in and breakingout, people out of an ICE
detention center. So, I mean,like, the politics are
definitely there, and everythingwith Benicio Del Toro's
character,
James Jay Edwards (13:13):
he was awesome too. Okay, so maybe
there's more about this moviethat I like than I initially
thought, because Benicio DelToro's Sensei was pretty
awesome.
Jonathan Correia (13:22):
Oh, dude, that was such a all these characters
were so well rounded andcomplexities, especially Beverly
Hills. I mean, there's so muchwith her character that I
absolutely loved of her being ofthe revolution and like kind of
being Die Hard revolution. Butit's only when the times are
(13:42):
kind of working in her I don'twant to say when the times are
good, but are working herfavorite because, you know, she
turns when she is caught, andeverything, which complexes
things. But it just it, I was itwas crazy, because there it,
there's a lot of politics thatare, you know, in the film, but
it wasn't being super preachy,which is, it's crazy when
(14:04):
there's, you know, peopleshouting Viva la revolution
every 10 minutes, but becausethey have Leonardo DiCaprio
character being almost dude,like from The Big Lebowski, just
kind of bumbling through it, Youkind of have like, those moments
of, like, breathing because ofit, because like, these intense
(14:24):
moments are happening. And Iknow a lot of people are talking
about the car chase scene, butthe riot scene in that town was
very haunting and crazy, and therooftop Chase was very tense,
because you see him fallingbehind, and you know he's gonna
fuck up, and then he falls likethree stories through a tree,
and it just turned into thefunniest moment. And I was not
(14:48):
expecting it to be as funny asit was that
James Jay Edwards (14:50):
movie, but I didn't find it funny. That's the
thing. People are billing it asa comedy.
Jonathan Correia (14:56):
I wouldn't say comedy, but I would say it has
comedic moments.
James Jay Edwards (14:59):
It. It. I mean, yeah, there are most of
it. Most of it is Benicio DelToro, because his, his, it's
not, he's not really a funnycharacter, but he's, his
portrayal is funny, but, yeah,it. I think the funniest thing
for me about it was how DiCapriocharacter, he's kind of like a
burnout, because basically theserevolutionaries, they get, they
(15:23):
get put under a microscopebecause one of their people goes
states evidence. So they have toscatter, and they have all these
code words and passwords toprove who they are. And DiCaprio
has done, has smoked so muchweed that his brain is fried, so
by the time he needs to rememberthese passwords,
Jonathan Correia (15:42):
yeah, and
James Jay Edwards (15:44):
he's getting pissed at the people he's saying
them to who are like, becausehe's a legend within this
organization. So he's like, No,you don't understand who I am,
but I don't remember the damnpassword, you know? And they're
like, Oh, if you cannot answerthe past question, I cannot
assist you further. Yeah? So,yeah, I guess talking about it
(16:05):
here, there's probably more toit than I liked, than I
initially thought, but yeah, asit just didn't really do it for
me,
Jonathan Correi (16:13):
understandable,
Jacob Davidson (16:14):
yeah, and on the other side of things, or, you
know, it's been taken up. Mostof my time is Beyond Fest
started in late September, andit's a big one this year. In
fact, that it's the biggestBeyond Fest ever, like, it's two
and a half weeks this year,
Jonathan Correia (16:34):
yeah? Oh, dude. Crazy lineup. You guys got
going there? Yeah?
Jacob Davidson (16:41):
And I mostly been working it, but I've
managed to see more than a fewfilms. And when I went to see
Good Boy, I saw Primate thatknew Johannes Roberts movie. Oh,
man, it was a lot of fun. And ifyou're afraid of chimps, this is
the movie for you, because it'sbasically about like a summer
(17:04):
get together with a bunch ofteenagers and their family works
in sign language, and they havea pet Chimp, and the chimp got
rabies, so it's Cujo, but Cujois a chimp.
Jonathan Correia (17:17):
Nice. How does it compare to other killer chimp
movies, like Shadow of theKilimanjaro.
Jacob Davidson (17:24):
Never saw that one, but, you know, I'm thinking
like Monkey Shines, or, you knowthat one segment of Terra
firmer, where that little monkeytries to kill Brian Cranston,
and it made it solid, like they,of course, it's not a real chimp
like they use like, acombination of, I think, costume
and practical effects with alittle bit of CGI and, yeah, no,
(17:46):
it's a scary fucking chimp. Oncehe goes full rabid, you know,
he's just like, don't want tospoil anything. But if you know
what a chimp can do to a person,then you know how bad a rabbit
chimp can fuck somebody up.
James Jay Edwards (18:02):
They got they're strong, if you've seen
the opening scene of, Nope,yeah,
Jacob Davidson (18:07):
oh yeah, that too. Also, it's funny because,
or it's fun because it's gotkind of the 47 Meters Down
angle, or just, you know, kindof entrapment thing, because,
because the chimp has rabies.
And they say this in the movie.
I'm not sure how truthful it is,but it was saying that chimps
can't swim, but also just, youknow, when you've got rabies,
(18:28):
got hydrophobia, so that,because the chimps got rabies,
he won't go near the wall. Soall these teens are in the pool,
and they have to stay in thepool try to figure out a way to
get around it, because, like,the chimp can't get them while
they're in the pool, but at thesame time they're stuck there.
So it does make for aninteresting situation. And yeah,
(18:49):
I think it comes out in January,but yeah, I recommend it. I had
a fun time with it, like it wasvery, very rowdy screening. And,
yeah, and you know, I like the47 meter down, 47 meters down
movies. So I think this is kindof a fun companion piece on top
of that. And, yeah, but no, wegot a lot of good stuff. I saw
(19:15):
big drum, Little China in 70millimeter with Jon Carpenter,
Dean Cundy, so that that was agood time. It was beautiful
print that they found inEngland. Yeah, and let's see
what else. Oh, yeah, I got tosee Night Patrol, the new Ryan
Prowse movie, which all you needto know is, the tagline of the
(19:41):
movie. Is defang the police.
Nice.
Jonathan Correia (19:44):
That's very, that's very, my five, yeah, I'm
in. I'm in. You sold me.
Jacob Davidson (19:49):
You sold me.
What's worse than cops, vampirecops?
Jonathan Correia (19:54):
I could see that. I can see that. I mean,
both are blood suckers.
Jacob Davidson (19:58):
Oh. Oh yeah. And also the alternate tag and yeah,
actually, I'm wearing my promoNight Patrol shirt right now.
And also on the back, it saysACAV love it, yeah. And
definitely another big highlightfor me was that same night they
(20:21):
were playing V/H/S Halloween.
James Jay Edwards (20:23):
Oh, how is that?
Jacob Davidson (20:24):
Oh, it was so much fun. I mean, I'm a big fan
of the VHS movies, and, youknow, because, you know, it's
some of my favorite things thatI like found footage, I like
anthologies and sticking with atheme, you know, because, like,
last time with V/H/S/Beyond, itwas all sci fi. This, it's all
Halloween themed, and it's a funtime, like, they really run with
(20:46):
the concept, and also, a lot ofkids get killed in this one.
Like, I'm not gonna sugarcoatit, like, you know, because you
know, Halloween is a holiday forkids. So a lot of these segments
have a lot of children gettingdestroyed or eaten by monsters.
James Jay Edwards (21:05):
What directors are in this one?
Anybody that we've heard of?
Jacob Davidson (21:09):
Yeah, no, there's a pretty good collection
of directors for this one. Like,I think most prominently they
got Caspar Kelly, the guybehind, you know, like Too Many
Cooks and The Yule Log movies,and, yeah, he does a segment
called Fun Size that does kindof fit those tones. Is like,
(21:30):
these adult trick or treaters goto a house with, like, weird,
unheard of candies, and they,you know, it's one of those,
take only one candy, onlybuckets. And of course, to take
more than one and this horriblecandy band named fun size like,
takes them to this candyfactory, and don't want to get
(21:52):
too much into it. But yeah, it'slike a really demented kind of
Charlie and a chocolate factorysituation. And yeah, let's see.
Yeah, got Brian and Ferguson,Michelin, Pitt, Norman RH
Norman, Alex Ross, Perry, PacoPlaza, annavik, which is the
(22:17):
complete set of directors. Butyeah, no, I liked each of their
segments in their own ways. Andalthough I'd have to say a
particular highlight for mewould be RH Norman and Michelin
Pitt Norman segment, which isthe final one, is called The
Home Haunt. And again, I don'twant to go too deep into it, but
(22:41):
it is basically about this guyin Burbank. Because, you know,
if you around LA or California,that in Burbank, there's a lot
of home hunts there, because alot of people from FX live up
there, and they do somethingthat makes the haunt a little
too real and shit gets crazy.
James Jay Edwards (23:03):
I'm gonna set Correia off right now. Isn't
Casper Kelly, the guy who didthe Scooby Doo project, too?
Jacob Davidson (23:10):
Yes, that is the same. Oh, yeah.
Jonathan Correia (23:12):
No, I was, I was explaining my tattoo to
someone in the casino the othernight. Yeah. No. Love it nice.
No, I'm excited I fell off orfell behind with the V/H/S
series. So I think that mightneed to be a part of my
Halloween plans this year. Isto, is to catch up and watch
this new one.
James Jay Edwards (23:29):
Because, you know, I'm, I'm not sure if I've
seen them all my I tried to keepup. What was the last one? Was
it 84
Jacob Davidson (23:36):
none of those V/H/S/Beyond, okay, beyond?
James Jay Edwards (23:38):
I Yeah. I'm not sure if I'm behind or not on
them, because I tried to keep upwith them, because I do like
them, but I feel like they'vebeen coming out so steadily that
I may be behind as well, becauseI do like them, but I I may have
missed, I may have missed one ortwo,
Jacob Davidson (23:56):
but yeah, no drops on Shudder tomorrow if you
want to catch that
James Jay Edwards (23:59):
One awesome.
Are all the rest of them onshudder too?
Jacob Davidson (24:06):
I don't know.
It's like a weird thing where,like, the year VHS is like, 94,
99, 85, Beyond, and Halloweenwill be on shudder. But the
original three, I'm not reallysure exactly on their statuses.
But I think most, I think theymight all be on Tubi, like, I
checked VHS and VHS viral on tobe, I'm not sure about two, but
(24:27):
yeah, they're, you know, they'reprobably around,
Jonathan Correia (24:31):
yeah, yeah.
James Jay Edwards (24:32):
I think I may even own digitally, the first
three, it's, it's the later onesthat I'll need to catch up on,
that I'll need to to, I'll needto watch the for, you know,
basically the wraparound, to seeif I've seen them, to catch up.
But yeah, I think that the firstfew, I think, predate Shudder.
So yeah, they weren't shudderexclusives, but I think that
(24:52):
ever since they, ever sinceShudder, they've been Shudder
Jacob Davidson (24:56):
Pretty much, yeah. I mean, I'm sure, yeah,
there was a whole. Old rightsshifting or something after
Viral. But yeah, no, I really dolike what they've been doing
with the franchise the lastseveral years. And at the Q and
A the producer Josh Goldbloomdid allude to a theme that they
were kicking around was V/H/SFlorida. So brace yourself for
(25:20):
that. If that goes
Jonathan Correia (25:22):
down next year, they need to actually film
that in Florida, though, like,you can't location, yeah, you
can't, you can't get that vibeanywhere else.
Jacob Davidson (25:31):
Yeah, would be wild. And I do have a few more
Beyond Fest watches I'd like tobring up, sure, okay, yeah, and
let's see. I also got to seeBryan Fuller's new and first
movie, Dust Bunny. And it wasdelightful, delightful. Yeah,
(25:52):
it's basically about this littlegirl whose family is eaten by a
monster under her bed, and shethinks her neighbor is a Monster
Hunter, but he's actually aprofessional assassin and hit
man, and it's Mads Mickelson,and she tries to pay him to kill
(26:16):
the monster under her bed. Andit's just very charming, like a
friend of mine put it best. It'slike if John wick was directed
by Jon Pauls, Jon, you know,it's got a very quirky, very
Euro style. And it's, you know,it's, it's pretty, pretty out
(26:38):
there, you know, just kind ofthis kind of mashup of genres,
but very whimsical. And yeah,Math and Math, Mickelson is very
heartwarming in this. But yeah,no, I had a lot of fun with it,
and I would definitely recommendit. It's, it's a good time. And
I, and, you know, I've been abig fan of Brian Fuller's
(27:00):
television work, but I reallyhope this kick starts a whole
feature film career form.
Because, like, you know, this isjust his first film. Like, I
would love to see more. It'spretty wild, you know, just
conceptually, but yeah, reallygood hook and great cast.
Jonathan Correia (27:17):
Sounds awesome, yeah, no, I love
Hannibal, so definitely gonnahave to check that one out.
Jacob Davidson (27:21):
Yep, and let's see. I saw the new Alice Maio
MacKay movie The Serpent Skin,which was very interesting. It
kind of felt like her own kindof pink, opaque Buffy, the
Vampire Slayer, you know, girlsdiscovering themselves, the
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psychic powers and yet. And lastnight was a big one. I got to
see Deaf stalker, the new Stevencostansky movie.
Jonathan Correia (27:51):
Oh, nice. Did it live up to the hype of being
an awesome throwback to thoseaction fantasy films of the 80s?
Jacob Davidson (27:57):
Hell yeah, it did. And I mean, it's, it does
feel in line with those movies,while being kind of tongue in
cheek and purposely camp. Butno, it's so much fun and it and
I love it because it has whatmade me love Dungeon and
Dragons (28:15):
Honor Among Theives, and that it does feel like an
actual D&D campaign, and thatit's very chaotic and people
make mistakes or do stupid shitlike Pat Oswald is the voice of
this little goblin wizard nameddoo dad, and when he's
introduced like he tries to dokind of like a match missile
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thing, but he keeps missing Andhe keeps accidentally hitting
death stalker. I love that.
Yeah, no, it's, it's reallyfunny, and there's so much
practical effects and Matt, Mattpaintings and backdrops and
stuff. Like, there was a scenewhere it's like, little
practical x, little demon frogthing jumps out of the water,
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and everybody applauded becauseit was so cool. Like, that's,
that's the kind of movie, youknow that it was, and people are
into I, yeah, it is such a goodtime. Like, I cannot recommend
it enough.
Jonathan Correia (29:09):
That's awesome. Yeah, I can't wait to
see it. I love those movies.
Jacob Davidson (29:14):
Oh, yeah, no, I saw the original Deathstalker
and Deathstalker 2 when Joe BobBriggs screened them on the last
drive in. And yeah, they'rebeing They're fun. They're Roger
Correia sword and sandalsmovies. And funny enough, they
actually use some footage from Ithink, the first death stalker
movie for a flashback scene thatthey do and kind of going over
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the lore of the world. And as anaside, it is funny. I actually
saw the third death stalkermovie, death stalker in the
warriors of hell when I was akid on Mystery Science Theater.
3000 nice yeah, as it goes. Butyeah, Steve, but yeah. Deaf
stalker is going to be intheaters soon. So yeah, if you
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can see it theatrically, I woulddefinitely recommend. Dancing
with with crowd, because it isit like at the beyond fest green
last night, people are cheeringand laughing really hard and
applauding after these big assfights. It is just a good time.
James Jay Edwards (30:14):
Oh yeah, also in in theaters soon, actually,
by the time this post, it'll bein theaters. I saw the smashing
machine. Oh, nice. Which is thenew it's the new eight, four
joint. It's Benny Safdie directsit. And reason it's not really
horror, but the reason it'sapplicable to this podcast is
Dwayne The Rock Johnson as a asa movie. It's pretty average,
(30:41):
because it's not thatinteresting of a story. It's
about Mark Kerr who is one ofthe original UFC fighters from
back when it was, you know,illegal in 49 states, and there
were no rules. And basically,you could see a boxer fight a
jiu jitsu guy. Or, you know,mixed martial arts wasn't really
mixed. It was like, you know,you had your strikers, then you
(31:05):
had your submission guys, and,you know, you know, you you
would have, like, a ninja fighta karate guy, you know, kind of
a thing. And it um, Mark Kerrwas one of the pioneers of that
old sport. And it's pretty muchjust a typical story of him, you
know, he the the he gets his asskicked for a living, and he gets
(31:27):
addicted to painkillers. It'sthat, basically that kind of a
thing, not, it's not superinteresting of a story. You
know, you've seen it all before,but I think what we're
witnessing here is the rockmoving from movie star to actor.
I know we had that bigdiscussion with how Dwayne
Johnson is a movie star and hecan carry a movie just being
(31:51):
himself well now he actuallybecomes Mark Kerr and he's got
some acting chops, and it's notjust the facial prosthetics and
the wig that they have him in,either he's, he's, he's got some
depth, it's, and also him andEmily Blunt, we saw a little bit
of it with Jungle Cruise, butthey have some chemistry. They
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they work really well together.
But yeah, that's the big drawwith the smashing machine, is
come see the rock act.
Jonathan Correia (32:19):
Well, I would argue that the rock has already
displayed his serious actingabilities. And Jay, you and I
talked about this a little bitbefore recording, and you
thought I was alluding toRampage, which, let's be honest,
George was the star of thatshow. But really the rock's best
acting and showing range wasSouthland Tales. Come on that
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the third act finger thumblingwas, was was, was a choice, good
or bad. I don't know exactly toyou, that's how I feel with that
movie, with every biteverything.
Jacob Davidson (32:56):
And it is funny, because Southland tales was the
inflection point for the Rock'scareer, because he really loved
the movie. He really lovedRichard Kelly, and
unfortunately, the movie didn'tdo good at the box office, and
that's kind of what put him onthe path to doing more
blockbuster features. So hadSouthland Tales been a success,
he probably would have done morestuff like that.
James Jay Edwards (33:18):
Yeah, well, and maybe, like The Smashing
Machine, because it's an A24it's like a, technically an
indie, and there aren't reallyany big names in it, besides him
and Emily Blunt like the thirdmain character is a character
named Mark Coleman, who is MarkKerr's best friend. He's another
fighter, and he's played by areal UFC fighter who hasn't,
(33:41):
doesn't have any other acting.
And I forget the guy's name, buthe's actually pretty good at it
too, but he's probably playing aversion of himself, you know,
which, you know, I mean, he'sbelievable, probably because
he's playing a version ofhimself. But, yeah, The Smashing
Machine is, you know, as amovie, it's nothing you haven't
seen before, except watching therock do his thing. And it's
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pretty it's funny because at onepoint he's getting ready for a
big fight, and he shaves hishead, and all of a sudden the
audience is like, there's therock. He doesn't have that that
hair piece anymore. It's kind ofkind of funny, but yeah, it, I
mean, it's worth seeing,especially if you have those
free tickets from AAA24
Jonathan Correia (34:28):
couldn't use mine. I do have two kind of off
the beaten path things I want tobring up. One is Correia got
into a new podcast, which is,historically, I don't listen to
podcasts, which is weird,because we do this, but
recently, Everything isTerrible. Started a podcast with
(34:53):
Spectravision, yeah. Theyreleased their first episode, or
first two episodes. It's theother week, and it's a video
podcast. And they even said,when Spectravision approached us
to do a podcast, we wereconfused, because we're a video
format thing. So the first twoepisodes are actually part one
(35:13):
and part two of one of theirmashup videos called from their
100 Best Kill series called 100Best Kills: Satan. So it's a
super edit of all these insanescenes of people either dying by
satan or Satan is beinginvolved, and it is ADHD and
(35:36):
satanic as fuck. So I highlyrecommend seeking it out,
because I don't think it's beenplayed since they showed it at
Fantastic Fest few years back,and so I highly recommend that.
Jacob Davidson (35:50):
Where can I find it?
Jonathan Correia (35:52):
Spotify. It's on Spotify. Yeah, it's on
Spotify. So if you look up,Everything is Terrible podcast,
it should pop up. Okay, yeah,it's a fun little time to put on
in the back. The other thing is,I, I don't even remember. I
think it was probably Instagramreal, let's be honest. I was
Doom scrolling. And someonebrought up, like fake
(36:15):
documentaries, and I gotintrigued by one by animal
planet called Mermaids (36:18):
The Body Found. Do you guys remember this
one?
Jacob Davidson (36:23):
Oh, yeah, I remember that one. So it was
2011
Jonathan Correia (36:28):
and Animal Planet put out this fake
documentary about thesescientists who find parts of a
body of a mermaid, and it turnsout that the government has this
huge conspiracy covering up theexistence of mermaids, and
especially watching it in 2025it's the funniest fucking thing,
(36:50):
because people bought it asreal, because Animal Planet
wasn't doing fake documentaries.
They had since, like, doneanother one about dragons being
real. And then for shark week,one time it was about, they did
one about sharks, and by thatpoint, Megalodon, I think, yeah,
which Megalodon makes anappearance in this too. And it's
really funny, because it's soclearly actors pretending to be
(37:12):
scientists being interviewed andstuff, and then they have actors
doing the reenactment and stuff.
And it's really silly. The CGIis not that great when, which is
fine when they're doingrecreation, but when they're
saying, like, this is the actualfootage of a of a mermaid. It's
silly. But throughout it, theydo this kind of like Walking
(37:36):
with Dinosaurs CGI scenesshowing, like, the evolution of
mermaids based on the aquaticape theory that you know, when
ancient ape our ancestorsstarted becoming man, they went
land, but some went into the seaand became mermaids. And let me
(37:56):
tell you, whoever wrote thosescenes went hard and they didn't
need to, like, they show like,400 million years ago. This
happened 300 million years ago,20 million years and there's one
scene where they show a mermaidencounter a bunch of whales, but
then a megalodon starts huntingthe whales, and so this mermaid,
(38:17):
who's a scout for the group,goes to warn the rest of the
group that there's a megalodonnearby, and when he catches up
to the group, you see theMegalodon start to swim below
him, and it's going for thatother group of mermaids. So that
mermaid stabs himself in theside to bleed, and then swim up
close to the surface, and he'sand there's like a moment where
(38:40):
he's gazing out to them, and oneof the mermaids turns around,
and they like, lock eyes, andit's really sad. And you just
see this, the Megalodon come upand chomp the mermaid that
stabbed himself to sacrificehimself to save the others. And
it was just like, Why did youhave to go so fucking hard? It's
like that dinosaur documentary Itold you guys about a while ago,
(39:02):
where they gave a dinosaur braintumor. It was just like, you
didn't have to do that. Youdidn't have to be like you're
creating this thing. Why did youhave to make this so fucking
sad? And then they did a followup, like a year later, which was
even more ridiculous and moresilly and more horror bull CGI,
but yeah, it's a it's afascinating and weird artifact
(39:29):
of a very specific time, and Ihighly recommend it. But also
got to warn you, if you purchaseit on voodoo for some reason,
about an hour in the specialjust restarts randomly. I
thought I was having a brainaneurysm, because I was like,
wait a minute, didn't thisfootage already show and, yeah,
I played out the whole thingagain, which was weird.
Jacob Davidson (39:52):
Yeah, have to check those out. Also, I wanted
to weigh in, because I saw Himnot too long ago, after our
discussion last episode. And Idid. I liked it. I thought it. I
thought it was pretty fun. Andyeah, now with Jon, though that
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the production design andesthetic was really interesting.
But yeah, no, I kind of, I kindof dug, you know, the sort of
dark side of an Americaninstitution like football and a
lot of the stylistic choices.
Also, Marlon Wayans gave a hellof a performance. Like, I
thought he was great. And, Imean, yeah, it felt a little
(40:35):
flawed, or, like, caught up, Idon't know, something, something
felt weird with the pacing,like, I think it was edited and
post or something like that, butoverall, I thought, I thought it
was pretty interesting.
Jonathan Correia (40:49):
Yeah, I had a lot of fun with it. I I feel
like, if I see it again, myopinions may either strengthen
or weaken, but I had a lot offun at that screening.
Jacob Davidson (41:01):
Yeah, I just wanted more of the killer, weird
mascots, like they should have.
They should have used that more.
Should have had a gritty, evil,gritty,
James Jay Edwards (41:11):
I wish that they had explained that a little
more, too. And I know that i iWhen you both had seen it, I
kind of I mentioned, and I don'twant to spoil anything. So I'm
not going to mention here, but Imentioned something that I a
question that I had about it,which kind of had to do with
with the evil mascots, and Ithat's one of the things that I
(41:31):
feel like they didn't quiteexplain. You know, that that was
one of my big questions. Wassomething that happened with
that? But, yeah, no, whatever,
Jacob Davidson (41:42):
there is a level of ambiguity which may have been
purposeful, or, again, it mighthave been some kind of weird
editing issue. Like, I just kindof assumed they were meant to be
like, because, you know, therewas some kind of cult themes.
Like, maybe they were supposedto be like idols or
incarnations, I don't know, butyeah, they look cool, like the
production designs of costumeswere really good.
James Jay Edwards (42:05):
I am going to go to Jay's book nook here for a
second. Jay's book. You guysknow that we were Correia is
talking about podcasts. Youknow, one of my favorite
podcasts is the Mr. Ball andpodcast. And he has a couple of
graphic novels. One is the mottoof his show, is strange, dark
and mysterious. And his firstgraphic novel is called strange,
(42:27):
dark and mysterious. And hebasically takes stories from his
show, and they're illustrated,and it's it's pretty cool. He
has a new book that just cameout. I actually just got it in
my pre order came in on Tuesday.
It is now Thursday, and it'scalled, uh, where nightmares
live. And this one is morethese. I'm only about halfway
(42:51):
through it, um, this, this oneis more kind of supernatural and
there. And the stories are alsomore open ended, where, like,
there's not always it'll tellyou the story, and then at the
end it'll be like all and, youknow, and, and this has never
happened since, and you're like,Well, what was the reason for
it? That, you know, it's likethe theater of the mind kind of
(43:13):
thing, where it's letting youfill in the blanks yourself. But
they're pretty spooky stories. Imean, Mr. Ballin is, he's a
master storyteller. Andbasically this is putting
visuals to his stories. Soyou're into that kind of thing,
you check out his podcast. It'scalled Mr. Ball and you can get
anywhere you get podcasts, andif you like that, check out his
(43:36):
books, his graphic
Jacob Davidson (43:38):
novels. Oh, yeah. And on other new releases,
I actually watched this new onethat dropped on shudder. Have
either of you guys heard ofNight of the Reaper?
Jonathan Correia (43:51):
I've heard of it, and I've heard a lot of
people, or seen on letterbox alot of people watching it.
James Jay Edwards (43:57):
It's a babysitter movie, right? Yeah,
Jacob Davidson (44:00):
yeah, it's a babysitter slasher, kind of a
Halloween thing. It's by BrandonChristensen, who actually did
the Puppet Man, Z, Superhost. Soit was, well, we watched Puppet
Man together. Not sure if youguys saw Z or super host, but
yeah, I really like his output.
And, yeah, no. I mean, it's kindof a throwback. It takes place,
(44:23):
I think, in the 80s. And, yeah,it's about this serial killer
that records and specificallytargets babysitters who's
dressed as the Grim Reaper. And,yeah, it, I can't really spoil
it, but it does some interestingsubversions or kind of twists to
the specific sub genre in theslasher but, and yeah, very
(44:46):
stylistic and really hits theesthetic. So yeah, I know I dug
it and can't get too into it,but yeah, just check it out and
let. Know what you
James Jay Edwards (45:00):
think? Is it on? Shudder.
Jacob Davidson (45:02):
Now, yes, it is.
Jonathan Correia (45:03):
Okay, cool.
All right, you know, I actually,I just remembered, I there's a
second it's, it's not a pot,it's kind of a podcast, but it's
an audio drama series called
Star Trek (45:13):
Khan, yes, we're back, baby Correia talking about
Star Trek, but it's all aboutwhat happens from the episode of
Star Trek, the original series,Space Seed, where you first meet
con and ultimately spur,ultimately, Kirk and CO
abandoned them on city alphafive, and cons return in Star
(45:36):
Trek two, Wrath of Khan. And soyou get to see what happened,
because when they were left onthat planet, it was a thriving
planet, but then a neighboringplanet exploded and turned it
into a desert wasteland wherepeople died. And it's been
really interesting to listen to.
It's really well done. The voicework is incredible. They got
George Takei to come backbecause there's some flashback.
(45:58):
It starts off with like ascientist looking into the
history. So there's a bit of aflash forward. And also Tuvok is
back as well, but it's him as anensign, and it's really
interesting. But I think themost or the best part about it
is the voice cast themselves.
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The voice of Khan is NaveenAndrews from Lost he's really
good as as Khan, because RicardoMonteban was just it's so big
and theatrical, but like alwayshad that center of emotion in
his performance, and I feel likeNaveen not only captures that,
(46:41):
but also makes it his own. Andit just makes me go, God damn
it. Davison, Andrews wasabsolutely available when Star
Trek Into Darkness was beingmade. And if you were going to
have Khan in your movie, why notcast him? You know, especially
since he is, you know, of Indiandescent. So it's like, come on,
way more convinced than theBenedict cum badge. But yeah, I
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highly recommend it. I thinkthere's like four episodes out
there, like a half hour each orso, great stuff. I mean, that
was, that was the lamest thingever, Into Darkness, because the
whole time he went by adifferent name, and then they
have this big reveal, and it'sBenedict Cumberbatch going, I am
Khan and like, Come on, dude,you look at Benedict Cumberbatch
(47:23):
and you're gonna tell me his thecharacter is playing. His name
is Khan Noonan Sing,
James Jay Edwards (47:30):
come on. The issue with not really an issue.
But remember when he there was abig mystery as to whether or not
he was playing con, until yousee the movie and you realize he
is, but they tried to keep itunder wraps. Which, I guess you
know, him being as Pacey whiteas he is, probably helped them
keep that under wraps.
Jonathan Correia (47:50):
That's one of the many problems with that
movie,
James Jay Edwards (47:53):
you know. All right, let's, let's wrap this up
with just real quick. What areyou guys doing for Halloween?
Anything? Any cool plans?
Jacob Davidson (48:02):
Oh, I already got my Halloween planned out. I
got a ticket to see Joncarpenter perform live at the
Belasco on Halloween night.
Jonathan Correia (48:13):
Nice. Yeah,
Jacob Davidson (48:15):
I've seen him tour a couple times. I think it
was twice. I don't remember theexact years at the Palladium in
Los Angeles, and I did see himon Halloween, I think back in
2019 but it's been quite sometime since he toured like at
least, you know, because hehasn't toured since covid in
(48:36):
2020 so I'm really glad thathe's out and about again. And
you know, what better time tosee Jon carpenter perform than
on Halloween?
Jonathan Correia (48:47):
Man, that's awesome. I don't, I don't have
Halloween Day plans, butstarting to get because I'm
still traveling, but I'mstarting to get them together
for because it's a month longcelebration, at least, you know,
but I do have an order atRevenge of the comic bookstore,
(49:07):
because I want to hand outHalloween comics to the two kids
this year. Oh, nice. So I wasable to, like, procure like 20
copies of like these Halloweenspecial things for a good price
to hand out to the kiddos. Butagain, kids don't visit our
house, our apartment, so I gottafigure, I gotta maybe do the
thing I did last year, which washand out candy from a fanny pack
(49:27):
while in a neighborhood, whichwasn't creepy at all,
James Jay Edwards (49:32):
which parts creepy, the part where you're
handing out candy, or the partthat comes from a fanny pack,
Jonathan Correia (49:38):
it's a massive fanny pack, though, I could fit
my whole head in it, little bitof both. I think it was, you
know, walking up to kids going,Hey, what's candy? And then
reaching into the massive,massive fanny pack might have,
you know, it was now, now thisyear, it's going to be pulling
comic books out of that massivefanny pack, I guess. So, less
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creepy.
James Jay Edwards (50:00):
My halloween i i mentioned i went to
Disneyland last week, and theyalready have the Halloween stuff
set up, the big Mickey pumpkinand the haunted house, the
Haunted Mansion is all aNightmare Before Christmas. Now.
Which unpopular opinion I likethe Haunted Mansion original,
not Nightmare Before Christmas,but breach to each his own. My
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biggest thing for Halloween. ForHalloween, we usually sit in the
driveway so that the dogs don'tgo absolutely eat shit. When
people come up and ring thedoorbell and I have this, this
big window the front of thehouse that looks in on my TV. My
biggest issue is going to bedeciding what movie I want to
play on the TV for the kids tolook at. I done a hotel, the
(50:44):
Hotel Transylvania series, and Idid the Beetlejuice movies last
year. I have to think ofsomething kid friendly, but also
that the adults are going toappreciate too.
Jonathan Correia (50:54):
Might I suggest the German Chainsaw
Massacre,
James Jay Edwards (51:00):
and I'll follow it up. Severin film.
What? Yeah,
Jonathan Correia (51:05):
no, no, no, you got to stay with the theme.
You got to show necromantic andnecromantic too.
James Jay Edwards (51:09):
Obviously, I actually did joke with my wife
about that the first year, I'mall, I'm all the hotel
Pennsylvania wasn't playing, soI just put on I Spit on Your
Jacob Davidson (51:17):
Grave. Jesus,
Jonathan Correia (51:21):
I was
James Jay Edwards (51:22):
yes, I was kidding, because Hotel
Transylvania did. And it's funnythat the number of people who
would walk by their, oh, HotelTransylvania, you know, the
people who recognize it, it'sactually kind of fun, but cool.
Well, um Yeah, that's Halloween.
So let's, let's get out of here,this one, and go back to bed,
since it's early. So what areyou doing on Halloween? Let us
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know, and we'll, I think we'llprobably have another episode
before then, because it's earlyin October. So we'll, if you
have anything good, maybe we'll,we'll talk about it. Our theme
song is by restless spirits togo check them out. And our
artwork is by Chris Fisher, sogo check him out, and you can
find us on all the socials undereye on horror or at iHorror.com,
(52:06):
which is the site we call home,and we will see you in a couple
of weeks. Everybody see goodboy, because you won't regret
it. It's amazing. See it twice Idid, and we'll see you in a
couple weeks. So for me, JamesJay Edwards, I'm Jacob Davison
Jonathan Correia (52:23):
and I'm Jonathan Correia.
James Jay Edwards (52:24):
Keep your eye on horror.
Unknown (53:03):
You you.
Welcome to Eye on Horror, the official
podcast of iHorror.com. This isepisode 151 otherwise known as
season eight. Episode 11. I amyour host, James Jay Edwards,
and with me, as always, is yourother host, Jacob Davison, how
you doing?
Jacob Davidson (00:41):
Jacob, doing good. Just kind of sleepy.
Getting into why I've been sobusy lately. And also, it's an
appropriately cloudy and gloomysecond day of October. And also
happy Yom Kippur, everyone,
James Jay Edwards (00:58):
yep. And also, my birthday was last week.
Jacob Davidson (01:02):
Oh, Happy belated birthday.
James Jay Edwards (01:03):
It's a, it's a, it's a big week for us. Also
with us, as always, is yourother other host, Jon Correia,
how you doing?
Jonathan Correia (01:11):
Correia? Happy belated birthday. Jay and happy
Yom com, Lord Jacob and everyoneelse. I am getting to the end of
my fourth week out of four and ahalf weeks here in Vegas
working, and I don't know what'sreal anymore. I don't know where
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we are. Been up all night. Sothis is the actually my end of
my day. So yeah, I'm lookingforward to going home, seeing
Black Philip and Lindsey andgetting some actual fucking
sleep. That sounds nice.
James Jay Edwards (01:47):
That's funny.
You say seeing Black Philip, ifpeople don't know that's your
cat,
Jonathan Correia (01:52):
oh yes, my cat. Black folk, actually, the
real order is looking forward tomy bidet, my cat, and my fiance
in that order, because, let metell you, hotel toiletries after
a month, after a week, drives aman crazy. I can
Jacob Davidson (02:13):
only imagine.
James Jay Edwards (02:14):
Let's hop right into this. I saw here.
Look, here's the deal. Mybirthday, I went to Disneyland,
and it was totally awesome. AndI got back from Disneyland to in
my email box was a screener forGood Boy. Oh, nice to see Good
Boy. And I think Jacob, you sawthe Beyond Fest, right?
Jacob Davidson (02:37):
Okay, I got to see Indy the dog do a Q&A, okay?
James Jay Edwards (02:41):
So jealous, dude, Good Boy, dude. Correia,
you need to this movie is soawesome. It's so good. The funny
thing is, it uses, it prettymuch uses the regular haunted
house and ghost movie tropes,but because you're seeing it
from the point of view of thestar, it's not really the point
of view of the dog. It's morelike the dog is in every shot of
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the movie. So you're kind ofseeing what the dog is doing.
But but it makes these tropesfresh, seeing that, seeing it,
how this dog is seeing it, andit's so good, it's like and
first of all, here's the thingI'm always going to spoil about
movies like this, the dog lives,he doesn't die. So, yeah,
(03:26):
you're, you're safe to go seeit. But this movie is, I mean,
it's, it's both horrifying andheartbreaking. So just because
indie lives does not mean, youknow, he doesn't go through some
shit, but, but it's, you're safeto see it. The dog does not die.
It's so good, though. It makesme feel like a failure as a dog
owner, because this dog is anamazing actor, and they get,
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they get a performance out ofthis dog. And did hear it's 73
minutes long the movie. And Idid hear they had 400 shooting
days.
Jacob Davidson (04:01):
So, yeah, it took them three years to make it
like, I think, two yearsproduction and one year post
production.
James Jay Edwards (04:08):
Yeah, so who knows what's on the cutting room
floor. You can do a lot inediting. But Damn, this dog is
hey, give it the Oscar.
Jacob Davidson (04:17):
Give in, give Indy the Oscar. Indeed, the
indeed the dog is his name,
James Jay Edwards (04:22):
yeah, not even the animal performance,
Oscar, Best Actor. Oh, this isso good. What do you think of
Good Boy?
Jacob Davidson (04:30):
I really liked it. I do also agree that it was
kind of an interesting kind ofperspective flip. And the
director, you know, even talkedabout it at the Q and A about
how, you know, it was just kindof Poltergeist from the dog's
point of view. Ben Leonberg,and, yeah, no, I mean, it had
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some pretty tense scenes,especially with, you know, it's
like, you're saying the dogseeing. Something that his
master doesn't and also has areally fun Larry Fessenden
cameo, yeah, as as most New Yorkindie horror movies are want to
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do. But yeah, no, I thought itwas rather unique. And it Yeah,
for and for, you know, firstfeature film, I thought it was,
was a good effort. And yeah, Imean, it just being at the Q and
A, it sounded like they reallyput in so much effort in into
making this. So you got toappreciate that. And I also have
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to add that Indy the dog was atthe Q and A, and had a little
bow tie, and a bandit actuallytaught him how to bow, so he
took a bows, and everybody gaveIndy a silent applause, because,
you know, he's a dog. He can't,like, make loud, you know, loud
noises, so everybody's silent
Jonathan Correia (05:52):
applause. Man, I've just been loving all the
photos coming from that premiereof Indy. He just has, like, the
biggest smile. And I think he'sjust the coolest dog.
James Jay Edwards (06:02):
He's a very charming dog. Even it because
the crux the movie Indy is 100%the main character, all of the
people in this movie, you don'teven really see their faces.
It's either cut off by theangle, or it's in shadow. You
kind of see Larry Fessenden'sface, because he's like the
grandpa, and it's in homemovies, but it's still, it's on
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a statically old black and whiteTV. So you, you know it's not
clear. Indy is the onlycharacter you actually see
clearly in this movie. And thatdog is just so well trained and
so charismatic. I mean, thatthat dog is, is is awesome
Jacob Davidson (06:42):
is, yep, who knows? Maybe Indys got a real
career ahead of themselves.
James Jay Edwards (06:47):
Hope so. The best thing about good boy is it
is. It is a gimmick, you know,but it's one that works. But the
best thing about it is that it's73 minutes long, like I said, if
they tried to stretch it anylonger than that, I think the
gimmick would have gotten alittle stale. So it's, it knows
(07:07):
when to get out, which isawesome. And honestly, I've
watched the screener twice justbecause it is 73 minutes and
it's so good. I'm like, oh, youknow what? I have enough time
for good boy. Again, it is, oh,it's so good. This, this is a,
this one's gonna end up in mytop 10. I'm I'm calling it right
now. It's gonna end up somewherein my top 10.
Jonathan Correia (07:29):
That's awesome. I have a so I've been,
I've been in the casino, so Ihaven't been able, you're living
in a casino, I should say. Andso I haven't watched a whole
lot, but one of the new films Ihave seen is One Battle After
Another. Oh, yeah, yes. Did youguys catch that one yet? Yeah, I
saw it
Jacob Davidson (07:47):
in 70 millimeter IMAX at the giant ass universal
AMC theater.
Jonathan Correia (07:52):
Oh, man. I just saw it in the Cinemark XL?
XD Theater, which was nicer thanthe dorm one, but it was still
great. I mean, man, I look PTAnderson, he hasn't, he hasn't
fired a blank yet, like they'veall been, they've all been
fired. And this one, especially,
James Jay Edwards (08:12):
he's fired nothing but blanks since Boogie
Nights. Oh no. I am 100%serious. I am not really a fan
of PT, and I thought I'd goneover this with you guys. I don't
really like PTAs movies, exceptfor Boogie Nights, but really,
but I absolutely love BoogieNights. It's my favorite movie
(08:32):
of all time, and I keep seeinghis movies hoping he makes
another Boogie Nights. AndLicorice Pizza for me, kind of
came close, One Battle AfterAnother, didn't I was not really
a fan of it at all. The onlythings that I liked about it, I
love the score. The JohnnyGreenwood score was awesome. Oh
(08:54):
yeah. And it was very un JonnyGreenwood. It was like, it was
just sparse piano and and wasreal dissonant. So I know a lot
of people who didn't like thescore, they were thinking, they
think it sounds like someonejust putting their hands on
piano, and I can see thatbecause it is real dissonant.
But I thought it worked for themovie really well. And that that
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car chase, which, if you know,you know, there's a car chase
towards the end of the moviethat was insanely shot, but the
rest of the movie just didn't,didn't do it for me, but PTA
doesn't do it for me sinceBoogie Nights. So yeah, I was, I
was not a fan. I thought I'dbeen over that with you guys.
No, no. Like comma, my complexrelationship with PTA Well, we
Jonathan Correia (09:43):
know you love Boogie Nights. I mean, you
mentioned Boogie Nights almostas much as I mentioned Star
Trek.
James Jay Edwards (09:49):
I do. I love Boogie Nights and but I don't
really like any of PTAs othermovies. I mean, like I said,
Licorice Pizza, licorice pizza,I did like, but I didn't love.
It's like a distant second toBoogie Nights. But I keep
watching his movies, hoping thelightning is going to strike
twice. But yeah, I One BattleAfter Another. I was not really
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a fan of
Jonathan Correia (10:12):
well, I loved it. I thought it was really
smart, because the film hand,like, tackles a lot of, like,
heavy things going on betweenthe revolutionaries and the many
different levels of complexitythat come with that, especially
with the make the character ofthe mother, whose name, the
characters name is escaping me,which she has
James Jay Edwards (10:34):
the coolest name, something Beverly Hills,
yeah,
Jonathan Correia (10:36):
yeah. Like Priscilla. These revolutionaries
James Jay Edwards (10:40):
all have, like, fake names, like, there's,
what is it? Is it Jungle Pussy?
Is that? Well, one of them,yeah, she's like, total
blaxploitation. And thenthere's, it's something like
Tiana Beverly Hills or somethinglike that. And Leonardo
DiCaprio, they call him RocketMan. And Alana Heim is in it
again, and she's Mae West, youknow, these rebel it's kind of
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like a Cecil B Demented kind ofthing where, and it seemed I
even had issues with thepolitics they were trying to put
in there, because it seemed likethey shied away from stuff. I
think he could have taken abigger stand on some of the
political stuff, especially forhow timely it was. But also,
speaking of names, that'sactually, it's another thing I
love about this movie. You couldnot have named a character
(11:25):
better than Colonel Lockjaw.
Sean Penn's character, Lockjaw,
Jonathan Correia (11:34):
no Sean, I think that was one of Sean
Penn's best acting and roles inyears. He was phenomenal. And
just everyone was so good,
James Jay Edwards (11:45):
Sean Penn, and it probably was part of the
character, but he was walkingeverywhere, like he had to take
a dump.
Jacob Davidson (11:51):
Yeah, he's very rigid. Also take a step back. It
should be noted that this isbased off a Thomas Pinchon
story, so it's kind of like, youknow, like Inherent Vice. So,
you know, a lot of the namingstems from that,
James Jay Edwards (12:02):
but the pension book took place in
Reagan era 80s. Yeah, no updatedfor modern times. Yeah. And
that's where I think that PTAkind of not, I won't really say
he chickened out, because hewent further than a lot of
filmmakers have been, but Ithink he could have tackled some
of the things like theconcentration camps and stuff
like that. A little more headon,
Jacob Davidson (12:23):
yeah, although I think also just a lot of the
focus of the movie is also justthe kind of pass off of
generational revolutions and theproblems of the past coming to
haunt the children of the nextgeneration. Because, you know, a
lot of it is just about RocketMan trying to connect with his
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daughter, and like he's kind offallen on the wayside of the
revolution and is just kind ofobsessed with hiding insecurity
and but, yeah, the world'scatching up to him and his
daughter. So, you know, it'sunavoidable,
Jonathan Correia (12:58):
yeah? And I mean, the movie opens up with
them breaking in and breakingout, people out of an ICE
detention center. So, I mean,like, the politics are
definitely there, and everythingwith Benicio Del Toro's
character,
James Jay Edwards (13:13):
he was awesome too. Okay, so maybe
there's more about this moviethat I like than I initially
thought, because Benicio DelToro's Sensei was pretty
awesome.
Jonathan Correia (13:22):
Oh, dude, that was such a all these characters
were so well rounded andcomplexities, especially Beverly
Hills. I mean, there's so muchwith her character that I
absolutely loved of her being ofthe revolution and like kind of
being Die Hard revolution. Butit's only when the times are
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kind of working in her I don'twant to say when the times are
good, but are working herfavorite because, you know, she
turns when she is caught, andeverything, which complexes
things. But it just it, I was itwas crazy, because there it,
there's a lot of politics thatare, you know, in the film, but
it wasn't being super preachy,which is, it's crazy when
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there's, you know, peopleshouting Viva la revolution
every 10 minutes, but becausethey have Leonardo DiCaprio
character being almost dude,like from The Big Lebowski, just
kind of bumbling through it, Youkind of have like, those moments
of, like, breathing because ofit, because like, these intense
(14:24):
moments are happening. And Iknow a lot of people are talking
about the car chase scene, butthe riot scene in that town was
very haunting and crazy, and therooftop Chase was very tense,
because you see him fallingbehind, and you know he's gonna
fuck up, and then he falls likethree stories through a tree,
and it just turned into thefunniest moment. And I was not
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expecting it to be as funny asit was that
James Jay Edwards (14:50):
movie, but I didn't find it funny. That's the
thing. People are billing it asa comedy.
Jonathan Correia (14:56):
I wouldn't say comedy, but I would say it has
comedic moments.
James Jay Edwards (14:59):
It. It. I mean, yeah, there are most of
it. Most of it is Benicio DelToro, because his, his, it's
not, he's not really a funnycharacter, but he's, his
portrayal is funny, but, yeah,it. I think the funniest thing
for me about it was how DiCapriocharacter, he's kind of like a
burnout, because basically theserevolutionaries, they get, they
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get put under a microscopebecause one of their people goes
states evidence. So they have toscatter, and they have all these
code words and passwords toprove who they are. And DiCaprio
has done, has smoked so muchweed that his brain is fried, so
by the time he needs to rememberthese passwords,
Jonathan Correia (15:42):
yeah, and
James Jay Edwards (15:44):
he's getting pissed at the people he's saying
them to who are like, becausehe's a legend within this
organization. So he's like, No,you don't understand who I am,
but I don't remember the damnpassword, you know? And they're
like, Oh, if you cannot answerthe past question, I cannot
assist you further. Yeah? So,yeah, I guess talking about it
(16:05):
here, there's probably more toit than I liked, than I
initially thought, but yeah, asit just didn't really do it for
me,
Jonathan Correi (16:13):
understandable,
Jacob Davidson (16:14):
yeah, and on the other side of things, or, you
know, it's been taken up. Mostof my time is Beyond Fest
started in late September, andit's a big one this year. In
fact, that it's the biggestBeyond Fest ever, like, it's two
and a half weeks this year,
Jonathan Correia (16:34):
yeah? Oh, dude. Crazy lineup. You guys got
going there? Yeah?
Jacob Davidson (16:41):
And I mostly been working it, but I've
managed to see more than a fewfilms. And when I went to see
Good Boy, I saw Primate thatknew Johannes Roberts movie. Oh,
man, it was a lot of fun. And ifyou're afraid of chimps, this is
the movie for you, because it'sbasically about like a summer
(17:04):
get together with a bunch ofteenagers and their family works
in sign language, and they havea pet Chimp, and the chimp got
rabies, so it's Cujo, but Cujois a chimp.
Jonathan Correia (17:17):
Nice. How does it compare to other killer chimp
movies, like Shadow of theKilimanjaro.
Jacob Davidson (17:24):
Never saw that one, but, you know, I'm thinking
like Monkey Shines, or, you knowthat one segment of Terra
firmer, where that little monkeytries to kill Brian Cranston,
and it made it solid, like they,of course, it's not a real chimp
like they use like, acombination of, I think, costume
and practical effects with alittle bit of CGI and, yeah, no,
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it's a scary fucking chimp. Oncehe goes full rabid, you know,
he's just like, don't want tospoil anything. But if you know
what a chimp can do to a person,then you know how bad a rabbit
chimp can fuck somebody up.
James Jay Edwards (18:02):
They got they're strong, if you've seen
the opening scene of, Nope,yeah,
Jacob Davidson (18:07):
oh yeah, that too. Also, it's funny because,
or it's fun because it's gotkind of the 47 Meters Down
angle, or just, you know, kindof entrapment thing, because,
because the chimp has rabies.
And they say this in the movie.
I'm not sure how truthful it is,but it was saying that chimps
can't swim, but also just, youknow, when you've got rabies,
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got hydrophobia, so that,because the chimps got rabies,
he won't go near the wall. Soall these teens are in the pool,
and they have to stay in thepool try to figure out a way to
get around it, because, like,the chimp can't get them while
they're in the pool, but at thesame time they're stuck there.
So it does make for aninteresting situation. And yeah,
(18:49):
I think it comes out in January,but yeah, I recommend it. I had
a fun time with it, like it wasvery, very rowdy screening. And,
yeah, and you know, I like the47 meter down, 47 meters down
movies. So I think this is kindof a fun companion piece on top
of that. And, yeah, but no, wegot a lot of good stuff. I saw
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big drum, Little China in 70millimeter with Jon Carpenter,
Dean Cundy, so that that was agood time. It was beautiful
print that they found inEngland. Yeah, and let's see
what else. Oh, yeah, I got tosee Night Patrol, the new Ryan
Prowse movie, which all you needto know is, the tagline of the
(19:41):
movie. Is defang the police.
Nice.
Jonathan Correia (19:44):
That's very, that's very, my five, yeah, I'm
in. I'm in. You sold me.
Jacob Davidson (19:49):
You sold me.
What's worse than cops, vampirecops?
Jonathan Correia (19:54):
I could see that. I can see that. I mean,
both are blood suckers.
Jacob Davidson (19:58):
Oh. Oh yeah. And also the alternate tag and yeah,
actually, I'm wearing my promoNight Patrol shirt right now.
And also on the back, it saysACAV love it, yeah. And
definitely another big highlightfor me was that same night they
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were playing V/H/S Halloween.
James Jay Edwards (20:23):
Oh, how is that?
Jacob Davidson (20:24):
Oh, it was so much fun. I mean, I'm a big fan
of the VHS movies, and, youknow, because, you know, it's
some of my favorite things thatI like found footage, I like
anthologies and sticking with atheme, you know, because, like,
last time with V/H/S/Beyond, itwas all sci fi. This, it's all
Halloween themed, and it's a funtime, like, they really run with
(20:46):
the concept, and also, a lot ofkids get killed in this one.
Like, I'm not gonna sugarcoatit, like, you know, because you
know, Halloween is a holiday forkids. So a lot of these segments
have a lot of children gettingdestroyed or eaten by monsters.
James Jay Edwards (21:05):
What directors are in this one?
Anybody that we've heard of?
Jacob Davidson (21:09):
Yeah, no, there's a pretty good collection
of directors for this one. Like,I think most prominently they
got Caspar Kelly, the guybehind, you know, like Too Many
Cooks and The Yule Log movies,and, yeah, he does a segment
called Fun Size that does kindof fit those tones. Is like,
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these adult trick or treaters goto a house with, like, weird,
unheard of candies, and they,you know, it's one of those,
take only one candy, onlybuckets. And of course, to take
more than one and this horriblecandy band named fun size like,
takes them to this candyfactory, and don't want to get
(21:52):
too much into it. But yeah, it'slike a really demented kind of
Charlie and a chocolate factorysituation. And yeah, let's see.
Yeah, got Brian and Ferguson,Michelin, Pitt, Norman RH
Norman, Alex Ross, Perry, PacoPlaza, annavik, which is the
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complete set of directors. Butyeah, no, I liked each of their
segments in their own ways. Andalthough I'd have to say a
particular highlight for mewould be RH Norman and Michelin
Pitt Norman segment, which isthe final one, is called The
Home Haunt. And again, I don'twant to go too deep into it, but
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it is basically about this guyin Burbank. Because, you know,
if you around LA or California,that in Burbank, there's a lot
of home hunts there, because alot of people from FX live up
there, and they do somethingthat makes the haunt a little
too real and shit gets crazy.
James Jay Edwards (23:03):
I'm gonna set Correia off right now. Isn't
Casper Kelly, the guy who didthe Scooby Doo project, too?
Jacob Davidson (23:10):
Yes, that is the same. Oh, yeah.
Jonathan Correia (23:12):
No, I was, I was explaining my tattoo to
someone in the casino the othernight. Yeah. No. Love it nice.
No, I'm excited I fell off orfell behind with the V/H/S
series. So I think that mightneed to be a part of my
Halloween plans this year. Isto, is to catch up and watch
this new one.
James Jay Edwards (23:29):
Because, you know, I'm, I'm not sure if I've
seen them all my I tried to keepup. What was the last one? Was
it 84
Jacob Davidson (23:36):
none of those V/H/S/Beyond, okay, beyond?
James Jay Edwards (23:38):
I Yeah. I'm not sure if I'm behind or not on
them, because I tried to keep upwith them, because I do like
them, but I feel like they'vebeen coming out so steadily that
I may be behind as well, becauseI do like them, but I I may have
missed, I may have missed one ortwo,
Jacob Davidson (23:56):
but yeah, no drops on Shudder tomorrow if you
want to catch that
James Jay Edwards (23:59):
One awesome.
Are all the rest of them onshudder too?
Jacob Davidson (24:06):
I don't know.
It's like a weird thing where,like, the year VHS is like, 94,
99, 85, Beyond, and Halloweenwill be on shudder. But the
original three, I'm not reallysure exactly on their statuses.
But I think most, I think theymight all be on Tubi, like, I
checked VHS and VHS viral on tobe, I'm not sure about two, but
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yeah, they're, you know, they'reprobably around,
Jonathan Correia (24:31):
yeah, yeah.
James Jay Edwards (24:32):
I think I may even own digitally, the first
three, it's, it's the later onesthat I'll need to catch up on,
that I'll need to to, I'll needto watch the for, you know,
basically the wraparound, to seeif I've seen them, to catch up.
But yeah, I think that the firstfew, I think, predate Shudder.
So yeah, they weren't shudderexclusives, but I think that
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ever since they, ever sinceShudder, they've been Shudder
Jacob Davidson (24:56):
Pretty much, yeah. I mean, I'm sure, yeah,
there was a whole. Old rightsshifting or something after
Viral. But yeah, no, I really dolike what they've been doing
with the franchise the lastseveral years. And at the Q and
A the producer Josh Goldbloomdid allude to a theme that they
were kicking around was V/H/SFlorida. So brace yourself for
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that. If that goes
Jonathan Correia (25:22):
down next year, they need to actually film
that in Florida, though, like,you can't location, yeah, you
can't, you can't get that vibeanywhere else.
Jacob Davidson (25:31):
Yeah, would be wild. And I do have a few more
Beyond Fest watches I'd like tobring up, sure, okay, yeah, and
let's see. I also got to seeBryan Fuller's new and first
movie, Dust Bunny. And it wasdelightful, delightful. Yeah,
(25:52):
it's basically about this littlegirl whose family is eaten by a
monster under her bed, and shethinks her neighbor is a Monster
Hunter, but he's actually aprofessional assassin and hit
man, and it's Mads Mickelson,and she tries to pay him to kill
(26:16):
the monster under her bed. Andit's just very charming, like a
friend of mine put it best. It'slike if John wick was directed
by Jon Pauls, Jon, you know,it's got a very quirky, very
Euro style. And it's, you know,it's, it's pretty, pretty out
(26:38):
there, you know, just kind ofthis kind of mashup of genres,
but very whimsical. And yeah,Math and Math, Mickelson is very
heartwarming in this. But yeah,no, I had a lot of fun with it,
and I would definitely recommendit. It's, it's a good time. And
I, and, you know, I've been abig fan of Brian Fuller's
(27:00):
television work, but I reallyhope this kick starts a whole
feature film career form.
Because, like, you know, this isjust his first film. Like, I
would love to see more. It'spretty wild, you know, just
conceptually, but yeah, reallygood hook and great cast.
Jonathan Correia (27:17):
Sounds awesome, yeah, no, I love
Hannibal, so definitely gonnahave to check that one out.
Jacob Davidson (27:21):
Yep, and let's see. I saw the new Alice Maio
MacKay movie The Serpent Skin,which was very interesting. It
kind of felt like her own kindof pink, opaque Buffy, the
Vampire Slayer, you know, girlsdiscovering themselves, the
(27:42):
psychic powers and yet. And lastnight was a big one. I got to
see Deaf stalker, the new Stevencostansky movie.
Jonathan Correia (27:51):
Oh, nice. Did it live up to the hype of being
an awesome throwback to thoseaction fantasy films of the 80s?
Jacob Davidson (27:57):
Hell yeah, it did. And I mean, it's, it does
feel in line with those movies,while being kind of tongue in
cheek and purposely camp. Butno, it's so much fun and it and
I love it because it has whatmade me love Dungeon and
Dragons (28:15):
Honor Among Theives, and that it does feel like an
actual D&D campaign, and thatit's very chaotic and people
make mistakes or do stupid shitlike Pat Oswald is the voice of
this little goblin wizard nameddoo dad, and when he's
introduced like he tries to dokind of like a match missile
(28:36):
thing, but he keeps missing Andhe keeps accidentally hitting
death stalker. I love that.
Yeah, no, it's, it's reallyfunny, and there's so much
practical effects and Matt, Mattpaintings and backdrops and
stuff. Like, there was a scenewhere it's like, little
practical x, little demon frogthing jumps out of the water,
(28:57):
and everybody applauded becauseit was so cool. Like, that's,
that's the kind of movie, youknow that it was, and people are
into I, yeah, it is such a goodtime. Like, I cannot recommend
it enough.
Jonathan Correia (29:09):
That's awesome. Yeah, I can't wait to
see it. I love those movies.
Jacob Davidson (29:14):
Oh, yeah, no, I saw the original Deathstalker
and Deathstalker 2 when Joe BobBriggs screened them on the last
drive in. And yeah, they'rebeing They're fun. They're Roger
Correia sword and sandalsmovies. And funny enough, they
actually use some footage from Ithink, the first death stalker
movie for a flashback scene thatthey do and kind of going over
(29:37):
the lore of the world. And as anaside, it is funny. I actually
saw the third death stalkermovie, death stalker in the
warriors of hell when I was akid on Mystery Science Theater.
3000 nice yeah, as it goes. Butyeah, Steve, but yeah. Deaf
stalker is going to be intheaters soon. So yeah, if you
(29:58):
can see it theatrically, I woulddefinitely recommend. Dancing
with with crowd, because it isit like at the beyond fest green
last night, people are cheeringand laughing really hard and
applauding after these big assfights. It is just a good time.
James Jay Edwards (30:14):
Oh yeah, also in in theaters soon, actually,
by the time this post, it'll bein theaters. I saw the smashing
machine. Oh, nice. Which is thenew it's the new eight, four
joint. It's Benny Safdie directsit. And reason it's not really
horror, but the reason it'sapplicable to this podcast is
Dwayne The Rock Johnson as a asa movie. It's pretty average,
(30:41):
because it's not thatinteresting of a story. It's
about Mark Kerr who is one ofthe original UFC fighters from
back when it was, you know,illegal in 49 states, and there
were no rules. And basically,you could see a boxer fight a
jiu jitsu guy. Or, you know,mixed martial arts wasn't really
mixed. It was like, you know,you had your strikers, then you
(31:05):
had your submission guys, and,you know, you know, you you
would have, like, a ninja fighta karate guy, you know, kind of
a thing. And it um, Mark Kerrwas one of the pioneers of that
old sport. And it's pretty muchjust a typical story of him, you
know, he the the he gets his asskicked for a living, and he gets
(31:27):
addicted to painkillers. It'sthat, basically that kind of a
thing, not, it's not superinteresting of a story. You
know, you've seen it all before,but I think what we're
witnessing here is the rockmoving from movie star to actor.
I know we had that bigdiscussion with how Dwayne
Johnson is a movie star and hecan carry a movie just being
(31:51):
himself well now he actuallybecomes Mark Kerr and he's got
some acting chops, and it's notjust the facial prosthetics and
the wig that they have him in,either he's, he's, he's got some
depth, it's, and also him andEmily Blunt, we saw a little bit
of it with Jungle Cruise, butthey have some chemistry. They
(32:12):
they work really well together.
But yeah, that's the big drawwith the smashing machine, is
come see the rock act.
Jonathan Correia (32:19):
Well, I would argue that the rock has already
displayed his serious actingabilities. And Jay, you and I
talked about this a little bitbefore recording, and you
thought I was alluding toRampage, which, let's be honest,
George was the star of thatshow. But really the rock's best
acting and showing range wasSouthland Tales. Come on that
(32:43):
the third act finger thumblingwas, was was, was a choice, good
or bad. I don't know exactly toyou, that's how I feel with that
movie, with every biteverything.
Jacob Davidson (32:56):
And it is funny, because Southland tales was the
inflection point for the Rock'scareer, because he really loved
the movie. He really lovedRichard Kelly, and
unfortunately, the movie didn'tdo good at the box office, and
that's kind of what put him onthe path to doing more
blockbuster features. So hadSouthland Tales been a success,
he probably would have done morestuff like that.
James Jay Edwards (33:18):
Yeah, well, and maybe, like The Smashing
Machine, because it's an A24it's like a, technically an
indie, and there aren't reallyany big names in it, besides him
and Emily Blunt like the thirdmain character is a character
named Mark Coleman, who is MarkKerr's best friend. He's another
fighter, and he's played by areal UFC fighter who hasn't,
(33:41):
doesn't have any other acting.
And I forget the guy's name, buthe's actually pretty good at it
too, but he's probably playing aversion of himself, you know,
which, you know, I mean, he'sbelievable, probably because
he's playing a version ofhimself. But, yeah, The Smashing
Machine is, you know, as amovie, it's nothing you haven't
seen before, except watching therock do his thing. And it's
(34:05):
pretty it's funny because at onepoint he's getting ready for a
big fight, and he shaves hishead, and all of a sudden the
audience is like, there's therock. He doesn't have that that
hair piece anymore. It's kind ofkind of funny, but yeah, it, I
mean, it's worth seeing,especially if you have those
free tickets from AAA24
Jonathan Correia (34:28):
couldn't use mine. I do have two kind of off
the beaten path things I want tobring up. One is Correia got
into a new podcast, which is,historically, I don't listen to
podcasts, which is weird,because we do this, but
recently, Everything isTerrible. Started a podcast with
(34:53):
Spectravision, yeah. Theyreleased their first episode, or
first two episodes. It's theother week, and it's a video
podcast. And they even said,when Spectravision approached us
to do a podcast, we wereconfused, because we're a video
format thing. So the first twoepisodes are actually part one
(35:13):
and part two of one of theirmashup videos called from their
100 Best Kill series called 100Best Kills: Satan. So it's a
super edit of all these insanescenes of people either dying by
satan or Satan is beinginvolved, and it is ADHD and
(35:36):
satanic as fuck. So I highlyrecommend seeking it out,
because I don't think it's beenplayed since they showed it at
Fantastic Fest few years back,and so I highly recommend that.
Jacob Davidson (35:50):
Where can I find it?
Jonathan Correia (35:52):
Spotify. It's on Spotify. Yeah, it's on
Spotify. So if you look up,Everything is Terrible podcast,
it should pop up. Okay, yeah,it's a fun little time to put on
in the back. The other thing is,I, I don't even remember. I
think it was probably Instagramreal, let's be honest. I was
Doom scrolling. And someonebrought up, like fake
(36:15):
documentaries, and I gotintrigued by one by animal
planet called Mermaids (36:18):
The Body Found. Do you guys remember this
one?
Jacob Davidson (36:23):
Oh, yeah, I remember that one. So it was
2011
Jonathan Correia (36:28):
and Animal Planet put out this fake
documentary about thesescientists who find parts of a
body of a mermaid, and it turnsout that the government has this
huge conspiracy covering up theexistence of mermaids, and
especially watching it in 2025it's the funniest fucking thing,
(36:50):
because people bought it asreal, because Animal Planet
wasn't doing fake documentaries.
They had since, like, doneanother one about dragons being
real. And then for shark week,one time it was about, they did
one about sharks, and by thatpoint, Megalodon, I think, yeah,
which Megalodon makes anappearance in this too. And it's
really funny, because it's soclearly actors pretending to be
(37:12):
scientists being interviewed andstuff, and then they have actors
doing the reenactment and stuff.
And it's really silly. The CGIis not that great when, which is
fine when they're doingrecreation, but when they're
saying, like, this is the actualfootage of a of a mermaid. It's
silly. But throughout it, theydo this kind of like Walking
(37:36):
with Dinosaurs CGI scenesshowing, like, the evolution of
mermaids based on the aquaticape theory that you know, when
ancient ape our ancestorsstarted becoming man, they went
land, but some went into the seaand became mermaids. And let me
(37:56):
tell you, whoever wrote thosescenes went hard and they didn't
need to, like, they show like,400 million years ago. This
happened 300 million years ago,20 million years and there's one
scene where they show a mermaidencounter a bunch of whales, but
then a megalodon starts huntingthe whales, and so this mermaid,
(38:17):
who's a scout for the group,goes to warn the rest of the
group that there's a megalodonnearby, and when he catches up
to the group, you see theMegalodon start to swim below
him, and it's going for thatother group of mermaids. So that
mermaid stabs himself in theside to bleed, and then swim up
close to the surface, and he'sand there's like a moment where
(38:40):
he's gazing out to them, and oneof the mermaids turns around,
and they like, lock eyes, andit's really sad. And you just
see this, the Megalodon come upand chomp the mermaid that
stabbed himself to sacrificehimself to save the others. And
it was just like, Why did youhave to go so fucking hard? It's
like that dinosaur documentary Itold you guys about a while ago,
(39:02):
where they gave a dinosaur braintumor. It was just like, you
didn't have to do that. Youdidn't have to be like you're
creating this thing. Why did youhave to make this so fucking
sad? And then they did a followup, like a year later, which was
even more ridiculous and moresilly and more horror bull CGI,
but yeah, it's a it's afascinating and weird artifact
(39:29):
of a very specific time, and Ihighly recommend it. But also
got to warn you, if you purchaseit on voodoo for some reason,
about an hour in the specialjust restarts randomly. I
thought I was having a brainaneurysm, because I was like,
wait a minute, didn't thisfootage already show and, yeah,
I played out the whole thingagain, which was weird.
Jacob Davidson (39:52):
Yeah, have to check those out. Also, I wanted
to weigh in, because I saw Himnot too long ago, after our
discussion last episode. And Idid. I liked it. I thought it. I
thought it was pretty fun. Andyeah, now with Jon, though that
(40:13):
the production design andesthetic was really interesting.
But yeah, no, I kind of, I kindof dug, you know, the sort of
dark side of an Americaninstitution like football and a
lot of the stylistic choices.
Also, Marlon Wayans gave a hellof a performance. Like, I
thought he was great. And, Imean, yeah, it felt a little
(40:35):
flawed, or, like, caught up, Idon't know, something, something
felt weird with the pacing,like, I think it was edited and
post or something like that, butoverall, I thought, I thought it
was pretty interesting.
Jonathan Correia (40:49):
Yeah, I had a lot of fun with it. I I feel
like, if I see it again, myopinions may either strengthen
or weaken, but I had a lot offun at that screening.
Jacob Davidson (41:01):
Yeah, I just wanted more of the killer, weird
mascots, like they should have.
They should have used that more.
Should have had a gritty, evil,gritty,
James Jay Edwards (41:11):
I wish that they had explained that a little
more, too. And I know that i iWhen you both had seen it, I
kind of I mentioned, and I don'twant to spoil anything. So I'm
not going to mention here, but Imentioned something that I a
question that I had about it,which kind of had to do with
with the evil mascots, and Ithat's one of the things that I
(41:31):
feel like they didn't quiteexplain. You know, that that was
one of my big questions. Wassomething that happened with
that? But, yeah, no, whatever,
Jacob Davidson (41:42):
there is a level of ambiguity which may have been
purposeful, or, again, it mighthave been some kind of weird
editing issue. Like, I just kindof assumed they were meant to be
like, because, you know, therewas some kind of cult themes.
Like, maybe they were supposedto be like idols or
incarnations, I don't know, butyeah, they look cool, like the
production designs of costumeswere really good.
James Jay Edwards (42:05):
I am going to go to Jay's book nook here for a
second. Jay's book. You guysknow that we were Correia is
talking about podcasts. Youknow, one of my favorite
podcasts is the Mr. Ball andpodcast. And he has a couple of
graphic novels. One is the mottoof his show, is strange, dark
and mysterious. And his firstgraphic novel is called strange,
(42:27):
dark and mysterious. And hebasically takes stories from his
show, and they're illustrated,and it's it's pretty cool. He
has a new book that just cameout. I actually just got it in
my pre order came in on Tuesday.
It is now Thursday, and it'scalled, uh, where nightmares
live. And this one is morethese. I'm only about halfway
(42:51):
through it, um, this, this oneis more kind of supernatural and
there. And the stories are alsomore open ended, where, like,
there's not always it'll tellyou the story, and then at the
end it'll be like all and, youknow, and, and this has never
happened since, and you're like,Well, what was the reason for
it? That, you know, it's likethe theater of the mind kind of
(43:13):
thing, where it's letting youfill in the blanks yourself. But
they're pretty spooky stories. Imean, Mr. Ballin is, he's a
master storyteller. Andbasically this is putting
visuals to his stories. Soyou're into that kind of thing,
you check out his podcast. It'scalled Mr. Ball and you can get
anywhere you get podcasts, andif you like that, check out his
(43:36):
books, his graphic
Jacob Davidson (43:38):
novels. Oh, yeah. And on other new releases,
I actually watched this new onethat dropped on shudder. Have
either of you guys heard ofNight of the Reaper?
Jonathan Correia (43:51):
I've heard of it, and I've heard a lot of
people, or seen on letterbox alot of people watching it.
James Jay Edwards (43:57):
It's a babysitter movie, right? Yeah,
Jacob Davidson (44:00):
yeah, it's a babysitter slasher, kind of a
Halloween thing. It's by BrandonChristensen, who actually did
the Puppet Man, Z, Superhost. Soit was, well, we watched Puppet
Man together. Not sure if youguys saw Z or super host, but
yeah, I really like his output.
And, yeah, no. I mean, it's kindof a throwback. It takes place,
(44:23):
I think, in the 80s. And, yeah,it's about this serial killer
that records and specificallytargets babysitters who's
dressed as the Grim Reaper. And,yeah, it, I can't really spoil
it, but it does some interestingsubversions or kind of twists to
the specific sub genre in theslasher but, and yeah, very
(44:46):
stylistic and really hits theesthetic. So yeah, I know I dug
it and can't get too into it,but yeah, just check it out and
let. Know what you
James Jay Edwards (45:00):
think? Is it on? Shudder.
Jacob Davidson (45:02):
Now, yes, it is.
Jonathan Correia (45:03):
Okay, cool.
All right, you know, I actually,I just remembered, I there's a
second it's, it's not a pot,it's kind of a podcast, but it's
an audio drama series called
Star Trek (45:13):
Khan, yes, we're back, baby Correia talking about
Star Trek, but it's all aboutwhat happens from the episode of
Star Trek, the original series,Space Seed, where you first meet
con and ultimately spur,ultimately, Kirk and CO
abandoned them on city alphafive, and cons return in Star
(45:36):
Trek two, Wrath of Khan. And soyou get to see what happened,
because when they were left onthat planet, it was a thriving
planet, but then a neighboringplanet exploded and turned it
into a desert wasteland wherepeople died. And it's been
really interesting to listen to.
It's really well done. The voicework is incredible. They got
George Takei to come backbecause there's some flashback.
(45:58):
It starts off with like ascientist looking into the
history. So there's a bit of aflash forward. And also Tuvok is
back as well, but it's him as anensign, and it's really
interesting. But I think themost or the best part about it
is the voice cast themselves.
(46:20):
The voice of Khan is NaveenAndrews from Lost he's really
good as as Khan, because RicardoMonteban was just it's so big
and theatrical, but like alwayshad that center of emotion in
his performance, and I feel likeNaveen not only captures that,
(46:41):
but also makes it his own. Andit just makes me go, God damn
it. Davison, Andrews wasabsolutely available when Star
Trek Into Darkness was beingmade. And if you were going to
have Khan in your movie, why notcast him? You know, especially
since he is, you know, of Indiandescent. So it's like, come on,
way more convinced than theBenedict cum badge. But yeah, I
(47:03):
highly recommend it. I thinkthere's like four episodes out
there, like a half hour each orso, great stuff. I mean, that
was, that was the lamest thingever, Into Darkness, because the
whole time he went by adifferent name, and then they
have this big reveal, and it'sBenedict Cumberbatch going, I am
Khan and like, Come on, dude,you look at Benedict Cumberbatch
(47:23):
and you're gonna tell me his thecharacter is playing. His name
is Khan Noonan Sing,
James Jay Edwards (47:30):
come on. The issue with not really an issue.
But remember when he there was abig mystery as to whether or not
he was playing con, until yousee the movie and you realize he
is, but they tried to keep itunder wraps. Which, I guess you
know, him being as Pacey whiteas he is, probably helped them
keep that under wraps.
Jonathan Correia (47:50):
That's one of the many problems with that
movie,
James Jay Edwards (47:53):
you know. All right, let's, let's wrap this up
with just real quick. What areyou guys doing for Halloween?
Anything? Any cool plans?
Jacob Davidson (48:02):
Oh, I already got my Halloween planned out. I
got a ticket to see Joncarpenter perform live at the
Belasco on Halloween night.
Jonathan Correia (48:13):
Nice. Yeah,
Jacob Davidson (48:15):
I've seen him tour a couple times. I think it
was twice. I don't remember theexact years at the Palladium in
Los Angeles, and I did see himon Halloween, I think back in
2019 but it's been quite sometime since he toured like at
least, you know, because hehasn't toured since covid in
(48:36):
2020 so I'm really glad thathe's out and about again. And
you know, what better time tosee Jon carpenter perform than
on Halloween?
Jonathan Correia (48:47):
Man, that's awesome. I don't, I don't have
Halloween Day plans, butstarting to get because I'm
still traveling, but I'mstarting to get them together
for because it's a month longcelebration, at least, you know,
but I do have an order atRevenge of the comic bookstore,
(49:07):
because I want to hand outHalloween comics to the two kids
this year. Oh, nice. So I wasable to, like, procure like 20
copies of like these Halloweenspecial things for a good price
to hand out to the kiddos. Butagain, kids don't visit our
house, our apartment, so I gottafigure, I gotta maybe do the
thing I did last year, which washand out candy from a fanny pack
(49:27):
while in a neighborhood, whichwasn't creepy at all,
James Jay Edwards (49:32):
which parts creepy, the part where you're
handing out candy, or the partthat comes from a fanny pack,
Jonathan Correia (49:38):
it's a massive fanny pack, though, I could fit
my whole head in it, little bitof both. I think it was, you
know, walking up to kids going,Hey, what's candy? And then
reaching into the massive,massive fanny pack might have,
you know, it was now, now thisyear, it's going to be pulling
comic books out of that massivefanny pack, I guess. So, less
(49:59):
creepy.
James Jay Edwards (50:00):
My halloween i i mentioned i went to
Disneyland last week, and theyalready have the Halloween stuff
set up, the big Mickey pumpkinand the haunted house, the
Haunted Mansion is all aNightmare Before Christmas. Now.
Which unpopular opinion I likethe Haunted Mansion original,
not Nightmare Before Christmas,but breach to each his own. My
(50:21):
biggest thing for Halloween. ForHalloween, we usually sit in the
driveway so that the dogs don'tgo absolutely eat shit. When
people come up and ring thedoorbell and I have this, this
big window the front of thehouse that looks in on my TV. My
biggest issue is going to bedeciding what movie I want to
play on the TV for the kids tolook at. I done a hotel, the
(50:44):
Hotel Transylvania series, and Idid the Beetlejuice movies last
year. I have to think ofsomething kid friendly, but also
that the adults are going toappreciate too.
Jonathan Correia (50:54):
Might I suggest the German Chainsaw
Massacre,
James Jay Edwards (51:00):
and I'll follow it up. Severin film.
What? Yeah,
Jonathan Correia (51:05):
no, no, no, you got to stay with the theme.
You got to show necromantic andnecromantic too.
James Jay Edwards (51:09):
Obviously, I actually did joke with my wife
about that the first year, I'mall, I'm all the hotel
Pennsylvania wasn't playing, soI just put on I Spit on Your
Jacob Davidson (51:17):
Grave. Jesus,
Jonathan Correia (51:21):
I was
James Jay Edwards (51:22):
yes, I was kidding, because Hotel
Transylvania did. And it's funnythat the number of people who
would walk by their, oh, HotelTransylvania, you know, the
people who recognize it, it'sactually kind of fun, but cool.
Well, um Yeah, that's Halloween.
So let's, let's get out of here,this one, and go back to bed,
since it's early. So what areyou doing on Halloween? Let us
(51:43):
know, and we'll, I think we'llprobably have another episode
before then, because it's earlyin October. So we'll, if you
have anything good, maybe we'll,we'll talk about it. Our theme
song is by restless spirits togo check them out. And our
artwork is by Chris Fisher, sogo check him out, and you can
find us on all the socials undereye on horror or at iHorror.com,
(52:06):
which is the site we call home,and we will see you in a couple
of weeks. Everybody see goodboy, because you won't regret
it. It's amazing. See it twice Idid, and we'll see you in a
couple weeks. So for me, JamesJay Edwards, I'm Jacob Davison
Jonathan Correia (52:23):
and I'm Jonathan Correia.
James Jay Edwards (52:24):
Keep your eye on horror.
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