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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And Gredi Society Teations. Everyone a Rich Wilson walking to

(00:23):
Fantasy Baseball Live. Today is October fifth. The season is
overru in the middle of the playoffs. It's about three
twenty in the afternoon. As always, I'm here with my
good buddy, mister Tim McCloud. Tim, how was the first
week post Fantasy Baseball season?

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Well, it's it's good, it's it's actually great. I'm checking
box scores but they don't really count, but they do count,
if that makes any sense. And I'm working on some trades,
working on some keepers. I started listing some catchers. I
am I'm just full of pisson vinegar this week, Rich,
I'm getting a lot. I'm actually hold on, hold.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
On, full of piss and vinegar. Is that what you said? Yes, explained,
What does that mean?

Speaker 3 (01:12):
It's an old it's a it's an old I'm assuming
Canadian expression.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
I'm okay, I'm all dressed up and I got someplace
to go.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
I'm wow that I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
I was literally that was my head.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Okay, old old expression. My my grandfather used to use it.
So now that I'm the same age as my grandfather was,
at one point, I figure.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
I'm not scary.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Is that scary? Of the same age as your grandfather?
You can remember your grandfather being and you probably thought
he was ancient when you when you knew him. So
it's not good.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Well let's just say, Okay, the yardstick is thirty six
inches and right now I'm sitting around I'm hoping about
thirty inches of that yard stick.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Okay, I still got I still got a little bit
left over at the end. I'm open.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
That's good. That's good. So yeah, So any you any
baseball stuff this week or is it just just chilling
and starting to think about the season. What do you?
What do you? How are you approaching so far the
off season?

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Well, I'm trying to do what I say I'm going
to do every year and getting early jump on rankings.
And I've started filing some of the catchers away and
listing them and taking a look at them. Really yeah, yeah, yeah,
trades and dynasty leagues. I've got the the XFL we
draft at the Arizona Fall League or the auction is

(02:47):
held then, so our keepers are doing another couple of weeks,
so I'm sorting through that. I've got I've got a
winter draft coming up. At the beginning of December for
another one of my keeper leagues, so I you know,
between you know, the catchers, keepers and everything else, throwing

(03:07):
some playoff baseball.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yeah, I I'm busy. I'm I'm happy. Mind.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
My week was consumed by stuff that I had put
off for the for the last six months because of
the baseball season, you know, calling the cable company and
getting my bill reduced, calling up for Verizon and getting
my bill reduced, that's the telephone company. And trying to
figure out how many versions of Hulu do I have

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because everybody's including that there. Yeah, so it's that was
I spent literally a couple of days just trying to
reorganize my life, like wor'st what's happened since the beginning
of the baseball season.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
So yeah, yeah, if you're finding out you're still paying
a cable bill that you haven't used in four years,
that sort of stuff, right, all the fun things.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
The cable bill. It is such a ripoff. I don't
know what it's like in Canada, but you know, we
have something called Spectrum, which is just one of the
mini services here at the beach, and I have nothing
to me. I have a modem for Internet, and I've
got basic television that's just the regular you know, TVs, CNN,

(04:19):
those kinds of stations, nothing premium or anything. It's two
hundred and nine dollars. I'm like that seems like a
lot of money. Like yeah, So I'm like I call it,
I check, I check other things, and it's like it's
at least sixty to seventy dollars over price. So I
called and say, you know, I'm going to cancel my
service because it's too expensive. Okay, sir, how about what

(04:40):
what do you want to pay? Like, well, I want
to pay about one hundred and forty dollars and literally
in three minutes, Okay, how about one hundred and forty
two dollars.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
It's like okay, oh yeah, you're the one that kills me.
Is our cable providers up here.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
They're always trying to secure a new business, right, so
they offer these packages, okay, to lure people away from
the other cable providers. Okay, well, you know your one
hundred and eighty dollars bill with say Shaw's, okay, we'll
we'll reduce that to one hundred and twenty five with
TVTel or another company. Right, They're always playing that game

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to lure business, but they don't offer jack to their
existing client.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Bet you got to call up and complain.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
And I did that and I got my bill reduced
from one ninety down to one thirty five. I said,
you know what, I'm going to play the game. Every
two years, I'm going to lock myself into you, and
at the end of two years, I'm going to go
to somebody else, and two years after that somebody else.
I'll bounce back to you. Now, do you want to
keep me as a customer or you want to jerk
me around? And well, we don't want to jerk your around,

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mister mcleoub we'll give you that deal. Meanwhile, they don't
advertise a thing, and if you don't say a thing,
they're happy to charge you one hundred and ninety for
the rest of your life, right exactly.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
And that's just the way the way it works. And
what they don't realize is that you and I are
their worst nightmare. People that are retired with more time
than particularly after the baseball season, we have.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Time to dig.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Into it and say, Okay, I'm going to make the
call and spend forty five minutes complaining and that's you know,
I did that, and it always is taken care of.
But if you don't, Timmy that the bills just keep
going up and it's not like one or two percent
every year, it's like ten twelve. It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Well, yeah, you know, just off, offer me your best price,
don't don't hose me, and hope I don't check my bill. Yeah,
and that's so hey, I always that's the way I
always feel I'm treated by, especially the cable providers.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Oh they're awesome. So that was that was so I
spent part of my day, part of my week doing that,
just getting kind of generally caught up on life. That's
just the stuff that is not sexy. It's not fun,
it's just life. And then Wednesday was the uh twos
of your Wednesday was the day that I paid all

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of our twelve different dynasty leagues out, and tim it
is a it's a fun day because I love giving
the Prices Prize Moneys out, but it's also a stressful
day because you get one shot to pay people out,
and if you look at a line wrong and it's

(07:19):
Joe that's supposed to get the first place, money and
you give it the Bob. That's a bad day because
it's gone.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Bob is not happy, Joe is wondering what the heck's
going on here? Like Christmas, right, I'm going to go
spend it and take the way vote for supper right,
something like that.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
It literally takes me three times as long as it should,
just because I mean I check it like four times,
like it's.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Okay, do you want you want to do it? You
want to do it right? Right? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Up?

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Because the worst thing to do is go back and
say I just sent you one hundred dollars, you don't
deserve that, And then I've got I got to rely
on the guy giving me the money back, So I
don't want to get into that. So that so I
did all of that, and then I so we three
different ways we were paying out of money. The Fantrak
stuff was easy is literally go there and the treasury

(08:09):
and you pay it out done like dinner. I did
it a couple of leagues through my own PayPal account,
which was pretty easy. But I'll never do that because
I always had to have my PayPal account inflate it
to not spend the money that was deposited in there,
so I'm never going to do that again. That was
a pain. And then we use the league safe, which

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we've used for at least a dozen years long and
Tim experienced this, so I always did it as commissioner controlled,
which means the commissioner gets to decide who gets paid
and I'm on the up and end. But the other
way to do it is the majority votes. So you

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say this is the allocation, and then the majority of
the owners have got to say yes on that. It's
a real pain. So I've never done that. But for
some reason, and they say that, you know, all of
my accounts were flagged. They think it was because it
was the second year of a two year deal that
it automatically got switched to the majority voted on. And
I spent hours on email trying to have somebody explain

(09:15):
to me why this was happening. Nobody could. They go,
people will vote. If nobody votes, then it's you know,
then it after two days, it just gets paid. I go,
that's the dumbest thing I ever heard. Then I started
hearing back from owners that they couldn't vote. They would
click vote and it would say you can't vote because
you haven't paid yet. So then I was getting emails

(09:37):
from people going, I don't understand what's going on, and
the League Safe never seemed to I never was able
to communicate properly what I was going through, Like this
is stupid, and they just said, well, it'll be done
in two days, which it was, but it was done.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah, Like I shocked me all of a sudden, and
I'm getting an email from leak Safe and it says
you can vote, well, yeah, I can vote on what
I don't even I don't know what the payouts are, right,
that's the commissionery, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
So I didn't have to send that email.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
It's like ignore that and then it and then since
it involves money, people go, what's really going on here?
You know. It's like and I totally get it, you know,
and it just it made everybody look bad. So then
I'm like, I'm never going to use leaks Safe again
and we'll switch it all over to fan tracks.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
So then I.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Start rolling over all the new all the leagues and
I go, so I roll over one league and then
I go to pay and it says, well, before you pay,
we have to identify. We have to verify your identity
what do you mean verifying my identity? So I had
to put my my phone number and my home address
in there, and then I had to upload my driver's

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license a photo of my driver's license, and they've they've
worked with they've worked with a verification service to make sure.
I guess that the league is not laundering money or something.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
And I'm like, well.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
See the other thing with fan tracked rich They're Canadian company. Okay,
so it becomes an international incident, right, will be American based?

Speaker 3 (11:14):
Right? And they're a Canadian company. Did we get tariffed
on that? By the way, Oh? Sorry, that's a rimshot.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
I don't know. So now I've I've rolled over two leagues,
and I want to get the feedback from people whether
I was a little schethed out by the whole thing.
I'm like, I don't want to give you my driver's license,
but I did, and I'm sure it's secure and I'm
sure it's on the up and up and blah blah
blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
But like, why did they do that?

Speaker 1 (11:41):
So I'm going to see how it reacts for the
next few days. Bob King, Hi, our buddy, and DL
five he did it, but he had money in his
bank account. His fan tres make account, so as long
as you have that, But if you're a new person,
they want to verify your identity. I didn't have any
money in my fant treks bake because I'm allowsy player.

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I didn't have anything.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Bang.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah I'm on fan tracks right now. And yeah, I'm
on fantractor right now. And there's a button that says
if you want to find out riches drivers, I.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Just take.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Great.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
It was like, you know what your.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Driver's license are, your passport, I'm going my passport. I'm like,
give you I think out of the two, I'd rather
have my driver's licees of my pass.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Yeah, you don't really care.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Hey, maybe they'll pay your speeding tickets in Arizona, right
or something like, Yeah, I know that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
I had this laugh back that when we were in
Paris last month, we went to Notre Dame and we
did one of those self guided tours, you know, you
put the headphones on, and those things have gotten really nice,
by the way, and uh, and I went in and
so I said, okay, you know, I signed up my
three dollars or something to get this little device which

(12:58):
looks like I don't know, fifty dollars a little thing,
and they go, okay, well, to secure that, we need
your driver's license. I go, my driver's license.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Why am I giving it?

Speaker 1 (13:07):
We'll hold it in this little container, like I don't
know if I like you having my driver's license. And
the guys looked at me and goes, sir, this is
no tradm. Your driver's license is secure here. I'm like,
I'm I'm from Jersey. I don't believe anything.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
No, you're not convincing me, right, But.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
I said all right, I said all right. I mean
if you lose this driver's license, I'm coming after you know,
my attorneys will be in contact with you. But everything
was just fine. I was like, don't people realize, like
your identification stuff's like really important, Like I'm not giving
you that stuff, but I wound up doing it. But anyway,
so if anybody else has got experience with fan tracks,
with this new verification process, let me know and we'll

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see how it goes in these leagues. If everybody's okay
with it, then we'll do it that way. If not,
I don't know what we'll do.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
I see I'm perfectly happy.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
I've I've used the van tracks disbursement for a number
of leagues over the years and it works great.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
I've never had his terification process is brand new. It
started apparently in this football.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
So see what I like about van tracks is if
I'm not mistaken fan tracks, I can use PayPal okay
to dispert from fan tracks League Safes. It was a
pain in the ass, yeah, because I'm Canadian, right, so
I'm out of the country, so they have to send

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me a check. Then they send me a check and
it's in US fund so I have to explain to
a teller that this check is in US funds, not
Canadian mister McLeod, We're gonna have to put a hold
on that for three business weeks, okay. And it was
just a really just oh yeah, no. Any check I
got from League Safe, my bank would put a hold

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on it till it cleared, and if I I didn't
mention it was US funds, then they would treat it
as Canadian and then they would in turn reverse it
and then credit me back in US when it eventually
clear day. So you know, it was just yeah, I
took the easy way out though. I just said to

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Bob King, Hi, Yeah, take take my share of the weddings,
apply it against it, and I'll figure offen tracks later. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
Sorry, sorry, Bob. I shouldn't have been a woost like that,
but I was.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, so it was funny. I was thinking, well, maybe
I'll just use PayPal for everything and I'll be the bank.
But tim me paid for two years. There's twelve leagues.
That's eighteen hundred dollars times twelve that's twenty thousand dollars.
I'd beholding. I'm not doing that.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
No, no, well it's it's much like I had some
work done on my car on Monday. It cost me
a couple thousand bucks. I ended up working on Tuesday
Wednesday driving. He said, I just up your car, don't worry,
but I know you're good for it. Just come in
next week, next week when you've got some time, and.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Pay for it.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
And I thought, you know, that's that's very nice of
you to make that offer. But what happens if I
kick the bucket sometime later in the week, You're never
gonna get paid, okay, And I hate I hate playing
that game. When I have a bill, I pay it,
you know what I mean? I don't want to make
anybody's life more complicated than it is. Not that I'm
anticipating kicking anytimes.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
But you never know what's going to happen.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
And I appreciate the gest you're but at the same
point in time, now you worked in my vehicle, I
owe you money. I'm gonna pay you right now. Let's
get it done right, So, yeah, I get it. Rich
If you're sitting on twenty thirds, what happens? You know,
you really want to hand that over to Laurie or
the kids?

Speaker 3 (16:48):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (16:49):
That what happens if God forbid, my PayPal its compromised
and somebody's stealing. Yeah, you know, twenty dollars out of it?
Guess what I have to come up with? Twenty thousand
dollars of pay everybody out there? They're fun. I mean,
you know it's just too much.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
You want to take? Do you want to take that?
You want to take that risk?

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (17:11):
I know. Again, I answered, I did it for two leagues.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
This last two years, and after I did, I'm thinking
this is really dumb. This was not a good idea.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
So no, any anytime you can take a step out
of the process where there could be a potential problem
down the road. Get rid of that problem down the road,
and fan Tracks will afford you that luxury. You pay
it and it's paid out, it's done. I know right
now they're going through through a bit of a pain
with the identification thing. But one of the lessons to

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everybody is I'm not getting request of it. And I
have twelve dollars and six cents in my fan tracks account,
and I'll keep that twelve dollars in there forever because
you know what I mean, I just if it saves
me any hassles. Yeah, yeah, they've got some money of
mine and I've never had to do the verification thing.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
So well, people are signing up. So the good news
is at least some people are getting through the verification process.
And so everybody who's playing the leagues, I'm meant the
I've got d D three and d L five or
the two leagues that I have signed up for next year,
you rolled it over. I'm going to give that a
couple of days, see how people are accustomed to it.

(18:25):
Then I'll roll out a couple of more. I don't
want to do all all of them at once, but
we'll get everything rolled over here soon. But Timmy, let's
let's come on to some last ye quick break and
get back and let's talk baseball. And we're going to
draft the second third round.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Look, actually probably just the second round, but we'll see
how that goes. But Timmy, we've had playoffs. We've had
the wildcard done and dusted, and the divisional series best

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out of five or underway. Uh so, yes, the Yankees
beat the Red Sox two to one, the Tigers beat
the Guards two to one, Cubs beat the Padres to one,
and then the Dodgers were the only ones that won
two in a row against the reds It was a
pretty exciting, uh, pretty exciting wild cards where we had, yeah,

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three of the four go to a sudden death kind
of playoffs.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
I was good, Yeah, it was Uh they needed the
they needed the best two or of three and three
out of four, which is which is excellently.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
They were close series. Uh.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
I think when I look at the results, I the
one that the one that would be surprising, uh, of
the three would be the Tigers Guardians. Yeah, the Tigers
limped into the playoffs, you know, just barely scraping.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
Boy.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
And not only did they get by the Guardians in three,
but they're a game up on the Mariners.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Uh, we were right now.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
And then they got school got the pitch in that series.
So you got to pretty good about that.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Well you look at uh you look at his win
in the wild card round? Was it seven and two?
There's three hits and earned run fourteen straightouts?

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah, it was impressive.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Well, guy, yeah, there's no doubt in my mind. I
know we drafted the first round and there's no note
Schooble right now? Is he is the best starting pitcher
in the league again, Yeah, he's He's the guy that
you want. You know, Paul Schemes, you know, hasn't hasn't

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broke the the two e r A mark yet in
his career. But I'll take Schooble every day over Schemes
in a redraft format.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Yeah, I will too. But it's I'm not sure I
believe that that schoobl is that much of a better
pitcher than Paul Skeins. I think the Tigers are a
better team than the Pittsburgh Pirates, and you know, you've
got more help. I know the Pirates have got Connor
Griffin coming, but the the Tigers got some really good

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players coming, and so I think that's a team at
least in the next few years are going to be good.
And once Scooble goes to free agency, he's going to
sign with the Red Sox or the Yankees, and he's
going to win more games. Yeah, you know you picked
it's he might resign with the Tigers. The Tigers have
been known to sign some big free agents. Have your bias,
but it's.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Uh yeah that that almost sounded like something I were
just said, Rich, well done, I like it.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Have your bias. They cost spent a lot of money
on that guy. It didn't work out, unfortunately, But uh
that the game the series I found him as well.
I thought the Yankees Red Sox is probably the most fascinating.
But the one I felt bad a little bit about
is the Padres. Again put it all on red at
the deadline. They really have nobody left in the minor

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league sands Ethan Sallas and a couple other guys that
might be there. I mean, their minor league system is done.
Their their major league team is starting to get a
little bit old. I don't know, Timmy, this might be
the last year that they had a chance to really
compete and then if, of course they've got to climb
over the Dodgers, which is nearly impossible.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Well, yeah, they're in a tough spot. But I think
as long as a J.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Pereler is running the show there, I think we know
what we can expect. Yeah, he'll he'll find some He'll
find some eighteen nineteen year old kids and move them
for pieces ages and wind it up. And I think
that's just who aj Peler is.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
But at some point you can't believe a turn up, right,
I mean, at some point you're you have nothing else
that people want?

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Is it that bad in San Diego? At the in
the lower levels of their miners? Yes, okay, looking for
a job in a couple of years.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Really think they're I mean again, Ethan Sallas is still there,
so that's a guy that they can move. And they
you know, the first round draft pick is okay, cash
may feel is okay from last year, but it's yeah,
before they you know, they would have ten to twelve guys.
They're getting down to two or three guys that they
can move. I mean, they're they're running out of players,

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and I you know, it's probably long.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
How long can you get?

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah, how long can you get your miners before eventually
there's nothing left right exactly.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
I mean, it's just been year after year of decimating
that and now Darvish is what how old and Cease
is probably going to move and they're just all of
a sudden that window has closed and their minor league
system is barren and and it doesn't feel good to
be a San Diego Padres fan at the moment.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
No, I think they'll have a good team, but again,
being in the same division as the Dodgers, that's tough.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
It really is. Yeah, the other thing I wanted to see.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
The other thing I wanted to comment on it because
I know Trey you Savage is pitching tonight or this afternoon.
It has been remarkable how these young pitchers, and usually
you see young pitchers come up and really struggle out
of the minor league, but we saw in New York.
I mean, Jonah Tong showed showed periods of complete domination.

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Nolan McClain was one of the best pitchers in the
major leagues at the end of the season. He looked great.
Cam Schlittler, I don't know if you saw that game,
whatever idea it was eight innings, five hits, no one runs,
twelve strikeouts and no walks. I mean, you can't pitch
better than that.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
No, I guess the only the only complaint I had
about that performance was the fact that you could tell
once you got into about the seventh inning, okay, the
reds Socks were beat Okay, And why didn't Why didn't
Bon go out and pullshit Schulitler with two outs in
the seventh or one out in the seventh and get

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him out of there. He threw a career high I
think innings pitched. You know, he threw a lot of balls.
He's a young player. I would have pulled. I would
have pulled him out of there early. And I wouldn't
have gone with David Bedner with a four nothing lead
in the deciding game. I would have put somebody else
out there, Okay, see if they could get through it,
and if they needed to at that point, I could

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have brought Bedner in by going with the with a
four nothing, by going with bedn Way, if he struggles,
then you're in trouble. And I just don't think either
either move was really smart by Aaron Boone. I'm not
a big Aaron Boon fan. I I'm not.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yeah, I mean, I think that's I think that's fair,
but it doesn't take away from him. Camp Schlittler was
both of ours guys that we had on the list
last week for potential sleepers.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
I don't think he's a sleeper town. I think he's
gonna be overpriced.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Now, I love that line in your notes. He was
one of my targets last week. I'm not going to
get him, am I. Well, I can't say that, I
laughed out loud. I don't want to be the bearer
of bad news. Yes, you can get him, you're not
getting him as a bargain. I mean, I I so,

(26:41):
am I. I can tell you how many teams he's
going to be on. Of mine one it's a Dynasty team.
And I picked him up. Okay, and yeah that worked?

Speaker 3 (26:51):
That worked?

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Oh well, But I can see him going in the
first five rounds.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Oh yeah, absolutely. I mean it's it's that that would
be I remember first time I saw him, and again,
I go to a lot of Yankees games, so I
see these guys, uh, and I didn't somehow I missed
Cam Schlittler until I went to one of the playoff games.
That the double a Affhilate was in last season, and
I see ca' oh, Cam Schlittler's pitching great. I've heard

(27:17):
I've heard about this guy, but no one had been
really talking about him. It was just like I've heard him.
People told me he's got a good fastball. He was
pumping ninety eight miles an hour. Just no one could
hit this guy. He was into my top twenty of
the Yankees, and I went back I remember going back
home that night and writing my top twenty, going, I
think this guy's a player. And then he just completely

(27:40):
blew up the season.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah, you know, if you take a look and you
go back to you know, twenty twenty four, twenty twenty three. Uh,
he showed flashes, but his whip in the minors was
like one forty two fifty eight, one fifty seven, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
He he was far from a finished product heading into
this year.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
And you know what that was, Yes, because he walked
thirty eight and eighty six and two thirds in twenty
twenty four at high eight.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
That's why, right, Yeah, I mean, and the Yankees were
trying to have him find a third pitch and his changeup,
which is in general, what you need, and he was
just walking way to me. He couldn't land it and
he was getting hit hard, and the Yankees just said, well, good,
we'll make you. You'll make you a two pitch pitcher,
throw you to the bullpen. And it all of a sudden,

(28:36):
he just kept pitching. He kept getting guys out. He
got a chance in the major leagues, he got guys out,
and then we have the game last week. It's just amazing.
It's it's kind of Bryce Miller from Seattle. It's a
very similar kind of profile or Joe Ryan, the guys
that have this fabulous fastball and they live off of that.
And you know he's going to it looks like Cam

(28:58):
Schelton was going to defy the eye. It's a guy
that can get by throwing primarily a fastball and it's
that good.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Well yeah, and yeah, he's a big kid. He's six six, yeah,
two fifteen. Yeah, he's a big kid. And if he
can survive off that and make it work like like
we've seen him make it work so far in seventy
three big league gainnings, fourteen starts in the playoffs, yeah,
I think we can. Yeah, it's much like uh, the

(29:34):
batter for the for the Angels, Joe Adell. Okay, yeah,
he's got issues, he's got problems. He's far from a
complete player. But you take what he has to offer
and run with it, or you continually try and get
him to change his game to make him better long
term when it's not going to happen at some point

(29:54):
in time, don't you just sort of have to accept
he is who he is and go with it.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
I think you got to give the Yankees a lot
of credit because they they kind of came to that
conclusion before, you know, they let things get too far
out of hand, and you know, and look, they needed
him at the biggest spot in the season for them.
The best of three tied at one one and they're
putting in a guy, you know, who's a twenty four

(30:21):
year old rookie and saying, you got to pitch like
you like you've never pitched before. And he did it well.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Yeah, and you know what, the Red Sox did the
same thing with Connolly early and he didn't look bad.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
He didn't a little bit, but no, he didn't look
bad at all.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
And yeah, credit to Alex Corus stuck up for in
the post game he said, yeah, the problem was too many.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Errors on d Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Yeah, he really really stuck up for early. So let's
get bodes well.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
For this has been a real I don't think people
realize how good this season has been for rookie pitchers
early and totally and Tong and Schlittler. I mean, they're
going on and on these guys that came up, and.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
The Chase Chase, Chase Burns who came exactly. I mean,
it's just men.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
These guys are and Trey you Savage goes tonight and
you know, call me crazy, he might pitch very well tonight.
That guy's got really good stuff in another kid that's
a heavy fastball guy. So we're we're it's pretty cool
what's happening here, uh in the second half with pitching,
and lord knows we need a pitching in Fantasy baseball

(31:36):
and maybe we're getting a little shot of it here.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah, and again the Moris Operende seems to be high in.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Nineties and a lot of I.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Shouldn't say a lot, but I think there are you know, hey,
these guys are all throwing hard. At some point in
time there might be problemstake which you can get well
you can get if that makes sense, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
It's they're not good.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
There's a problems.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Yeah, just you know, we don't want to be negative
nancies here, but they're gonna break. They all break, yep.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
And when they're all throwing one hundred miles an hour?

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Did you did you you see Mason Millller like at
the end of the year, Like, how do you hit
that like one hundred and four miles an hour on
the corners? Like good luck? You know what I mean.
That's crazy, It's just crazy.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Makes the Miller's a freak. And I'm he had so
many injuries when he was in the upper levels of
the minor leagues and then even you know, trying to
get up, and then he's been relatively healthy this first
two years in the in the big leagues, which is
pretty crazy.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Well, yeah, because I think you only had like thirty
five innings and in the minors or something like that
was absolutely.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
I think I think the number is accurate.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Yes, yeah, it was next to nothing in the minor leagues.
He wasn't healthy for ten minutes. But so far, so good,
and man, you're not gonna hit him, you just don't.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
So let me use the question spinning back to the
Red Sox Jared Duran. I mean, there has been rumors
that he'll get moved in the off season, just because
they have that flexibility that they've got so many young
outfielders coming up, and they got to find room for
Christian Campbell, etc. And Durant's a good player and could
return a top flight pitcher. I know he was a

(33:27):
second round pick and he's probably a third or fourth
round pick for this coming season. I don't know what
you think. Should I be happy with what he produced
in twenty twenty five? Do you think there's more in
the tank? Do you think he's not as good as
maybe he was in twenty twenty four? What you're thinking
of Jared Duran.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
I like Jared Duran, but they're always you know, he's
almost thirty years old.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Now, Oh really is he twenty nine? Really?

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Yeah, he's twenty nine. He just turned in September. Wow,
he's born in ninety six. I liked Duran, but at
the same point in time, it seems like every once
in a while he just has a brain cramp. And

(34:20):
like I know, in the playoffs, there was one play
I can't remember. It's specific, but there's one play at started.
It just I don't know. I I just he's not
on my list of players that I think we've seen
the best. We're going to see both offensively and defensively.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
All right, So let me let me give you some
some other outfielders here, okay. Jaron Duran or Roman Anthony
for twenty.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Twenty six, Oh Anthony, no question.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Jaron Duran or Pete Crow Armstrong.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
Heat Crow Armstrong.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Jared Durant or Jackson Merrill your bane of its existence
in twenty five.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Jackson Merrill. I think Jackson Merril will eventually be a
back of the first early second round pick. He just
had a tough year, a lot of injuries. He never
got on tracked. I like the player though a lot.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Jared Durant or O'Neill Cruz.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
It is neither acceptable.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Yeah, so that's starting to get into Let me give
you one. Let me give you one more. Jared Durant
or Michael Harris.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Michael Harris, Yes, Michael Sarahs is six six years younger.
If I'm not mistaken, I think Harris is only twenty three,
twenty four. He is, I'll tell you, yeah, he's young.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Yes, so he is not. He was an early second
round pick this year, probably a top seventy eight outfielder.
He's more of a top twenty outfielder, it sounds like
in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
I'm not going to have him top ten, that's for sure.
And you know what, Harris finished really strong and I'm
just looking at the numbers. He ended up going twenty
twenty this year must have been after I I lambastered him,
lambased him on the podcast. Yeah, he played really he
played really well down on the stretch.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Yep, he did.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Yeah, and hopefully that carries forward into twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
I know it gets boring to talk about show hey Otani,
but I mean, he was really good last night pitching.
Rookie Sazaki is another rookie pitcher. By the way, I
know it's rookie Sazaki. We've been talking about him forever.
He pitched really well, closed out the closed out the
game last night. But show Aotani looked great in the
wild Card series, a couple three home runs and last

(37:09):
night pitch six innings, three aaron runs and he was great,
nine strikeouts, one walk. It's just he's just I mean
I think Aaron Judge is every bit the hit or
a show Heyo Tony, but you're throwing an elite pitcher
on top of that.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
And it's just nuts.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Right, Well, we said a few weeks ago, I think
you brought it up. You know, we're just going to
give him the MVP until he retires. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
How can you not. What we're witnessing is historical, Okay,
we've never seen anything like that. People compared him to
Baby Ruth. That was one hundred years ago. A good

(37:46):
fastball back then was eighty two miles an hour. Okay,
that's not even a BP fastball today. You know, it's
the game has changed, and we have never seen anybody
the likes of Showy or Tony. That home run that
he hit, what was it four fifty four or something
like that, Like that ball was screaming out from the
time of I think it was one hundred and ten
mile an hour.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
Ex it was. That's crazy, just insane, and I think
we should be.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Very thankful that we're getting the opportunity to see a
player of this caliber in his prime, because if you
would have told me ten years ago this was going
to happen, I'd still be laughing. Okay, it's not gonna happen.
Players don't do what Shoeyotani does. It's you know, it's unicorn.
That's the only way, you know what I mean, the

(38:32):
only way to describe it.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
Rich.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
Yeah, maybe there'll be another show Heyotani at some point,
but I mean, we haven't seen him. We haven't seen
him really, I guess since Babe Ruth, I think you're
right there. And again there's been there's been other hitters
that are as good, and you can argue even better
than show Heotani as a positional player. But do you
throw in the pitching on top of it. It's it's

(38:55):
just insane.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Yeah, it's yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
Anytime he or anytime actually, anytime he's on the field,
if the game's on the television, I'm watching it.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
It's as simple as that.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
He has got to be the most watched, popular, whatever
you want to player in the game of baseball today.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
And that's not to take anything away from Aaron Judge,
who's a great player, but Otani is, Yeah, he's just
a world all over his own.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Judge is phenomenal, and it's just phenomenal. Okay, let's get
to the division series. Just looking for your predictions. Let's
start in the American League. The Blue Jays blew out
the Yankees ten to one. They're up one to nothing.
Tell me who wins the series and how many games.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
I'm gonna go with the Jays in five? Really, okay
the Yankees. Yankees have a good team. The Jays if
they're on their game, they don't make mistakes, the advanced runners,
they get things done. They don't have the big names,
but they're playing good, solid, fundamental baseball. And if we saw,

(40:04):
if Game one is any indication of Glad he's heating up,
that boats very very well for the Blue Jays. So
I'm gonna I'm gonna go Blue Jays in five.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
And have Junior on your no big names. Uh raises
his hand. I say, I disagree with mister Cloud. I'm
a pretty big yu.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Yeah he is.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Yeah, Okay, other than other than Vlad Junior and the
Springer who's having an amazing research crazy. Yeah, They've they've
got a lot of solid players. Yeah, guys like Nathan
Nathan Lucas. Okay, yeah, he's twenty nine year old rookie. Okay, Barger,
there's a there's a lot of players in that lineup,

(40:46):
im and is for the for the defense, kirk it
two Omers the other day. Okay, they're they're getting it done.
They're not making mistakes. But I did have to chuckle because,
as always, Twitter exploded with all of the yank these
three games sweep. Yeah yeah, you know, the typical trash
talk and sort of left me smiling to see the

(41:07):
Blue Jays humble some of them after that first game.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Yeah. So I have one of the so one of
our pastors at our church. She's just, i mean lives
and dies by the Yankees. I mean watches every game,
every inning of every game. She's just big time. So
saw her this morning, I went like, sorry about the Yankees.
They're done. She's just like, you know, I think a
true Yankee fan are very concerned, and they're like, we're

(41:35):
done because we got blown out. We're done.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
It's like, yeah, it's over.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
The So the Tigers and Mariners. The Tigers win in
the eleventh any my buddy will Vescits will win. Come
on with vest. I'm pulling for you. I need you,
I need you to be to close her next season.

Speaker 4 (41:56):
For all my dinings do about three leagues backed him
for six bucks in the XFL.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Go well go, I'm not I'm not sure it's going
to happen, but I got my fingers crossed for him.
And and I mean, look, they got Kirby pitched well,
but not well enough. They got Trega Savage going. I'm sorry,
that's uh, Tiger's got Scooball going this evening. I mean,
he gotta like the Tiger's position, right.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Getting that first win was absolutely huge. And yeah, Kirby
pitched well, but I didn't realize that the announcers brought
this to everybody's attention. But you know, Carpenter with that big,
massive home run. Apparently he's had a total of five
hits against Kirby, Okay in his career. What you would
say is probably no big deal, right, except all five

(42:44):
are home runs.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
Maybe just maybe they should walk the guy.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
You know, who am I to tell a big league
club how to handle the situation. But when a guy's
got five hits and all of them are home runs, like,
send him to first base?

Speaker 3 (42:59):
Okay, take them out of the right.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
So Tigers, Mariners, Yeah, Candy cap it out who wins
and how many.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
I'm gonna go with the Tigers.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
I would if if the Tigers win tonight, it's They've
got school Schooble. Everything is lined up, and I don't
think the Tigers will lose three in a row. And
I think they could bring Scooble back for the fifth game, yep,
if it comes down to that. So I that first
win was was huge.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
I'm gonna go with the Tigers.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Tigers in three, four or five, five, five, Yeah, I
wouldn't be surprised if it's over in three. Just if
they went tonight, I mean, it's it's I mean the
Mariners have got their backs against it.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Yeah, it's it's a problem. Yes, definitely.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
The Brewers blew out the Cubs. I mean they were
up nine to one after a leadoff home run by
uh oh By Books hit a lead off on run
and it was like, yeah, Freddy Peralta doesn't have it.
And then he just settled down and the Brewers just
destroyed Matthew Boyd who'd been so good all season long,
and then he picked the wrong game to have an
off game.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Yeah, the Cubs should have avoided him in the playoffs. Yesterday. No,
it wasn't a good It wasn't a good good outing
by boy, and hey, the Brewers can play some pretty
good baseball. I'm gonna go with the Brewers in four.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
Okay, and then finally the big I think it's the
big one. This to me, this is this is the
one you gotta watch. And that's the Dodgers and Phillies.
I mean they probably, I mean you can argue it's
the two best teams left in the playoffs and these
are they's got name recognition, they've got superstars, big markets

(44:50):
spent huge on their teams. And the Dodgers win five
to three. It was a close game. Map this one out.
Who wins and how many?

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (45:01):
The Dodgers in three and Sazaki ends up with at
least one more save maybe two. Tanner Scott is probably
not impressed. But Tanner Scott's getting when he deserved. He
didn't pitch well this year. Sazaki right now is in
a one inning role. He's looking really good. He made
some changes to his mechanics. Apparently I was reading reading somewhere,

(45:23):
and right now, right now, he is solving the Dodgers'
bullpen problem. Man, the starting pitching is strong, So you know,
I'm gonna go with the Dodgers.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
In three.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
It's fascinating.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
A close games, all close games, and.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Three a sweep. It's amazing. I mean, the Dodgers, for
as good as they've been over the last five eight years,
I'm not sure exactly we can go back and figure
when that happened. They still have had a lousy bullpen.
They every time they get to the I say, every
time they get to the playoffs, the bullpen falters. And
if they put rookie Sasaki in there and he just performs,

(46:03):
you have to ask the question, is he the closer
coming into the season next year they got plenty of starters.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Well, yeah, you know what was really interesting was Tyler
Glasnow working in a setup roval.

Speaker 4 (46:14):
Yeah, and you know what that is perfect for Tyler
Glasno pitch one two innings, shut him down and turn
it over to Sazaki.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
There's your there's your bullpen in the future, at least
it so so.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
The doctors can't find any bullpen arms, so they're turning
all of their breadth of starters into bullpen arms, which
is pretty fascinating.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
It's pretty fascinating.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
But I don't think Tyler Glasnow wants to be a reliever,
and I don't think Sazaki wants to be one. But
the interesting thing with Sazaki is they got him on
a cheap deal, right.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
Because he came over early.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
He wants Yeah, so they have all the control over Sazaki.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
Six years of team controllings at league minimum. What's your
next player? I mean he's going to be exactly what
they tell him to do. So yeah, might might have
a bit of an argument. He might be able to
get some some veterans on his side and caused some noise.
But Sosaki is not.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
Well.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
No, and the thing with Sazaki's I think it's a
parent that.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
Health is a problem with Sasaki. Okay he.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
I think his big season in Japan was one hundred
and ten innings. Okay ah, Sazaki might be he might
have to resolve himself to facing the reality that in
Major League Baseball he's going to be a relief pitcher. Now,
I'm sure the Dodgers would love to have him starting,

(47:41):
but they don't. Do they need one hundred innings out
of them? No, they need one hundred and seventy five.
If they can't get one hundred and seventy five, and
I think I think Suzzaki, I think there's still an
issue with that elbow.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
I think Sazaki if Sazaki can live one inning at
a time, okay, and contribute more to the Dodgers than
he can pitching half a year at five any five
any outings. So if I was betting right now, I
would draft Sazaki as a closer for next year.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Yeah, very fascinating because people with early drafts and if again,
if he if he turns into the closer and the
uh in the postseason here, it's really gonna make it
interesting going into next next year what role he's going
to have, because you could definitely argue he could be
a closer.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
M well, and hey, if you're if you're into it.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
The NFBC has already fired up twenty six drafts there
there they're often nineteen, yet twenty twenty six drafts are
now you can join an NFBC draft.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Oh no, I thought you said twenty six drafts with
twenty twenty six. I get it now, so.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Yeah, yeah, sorry, ye had twenty twenty six. Yeah, I'm
I'm going to go into an early one of the
nfbc's but I'm gonna wait and see who's healthy at
the end of the playoffs before I do anything.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
Totally, totally dense.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
So I'm going to do mine at uh January first,
So that's that's when I bark and a big call
out to one of our patren members, Greg, who wanted
to meet with me in the last couple of days
just to talk about trying to fire up some leagues
postseason leagues through the NFC. I just wasn't able to

(49:25):
get it together, just didn't have enough time. But we're
going to try to do that next season. So I'm
going to spend some time with Greg try to figure
out how how it all works and maybe how we
can do something.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
So that's why I ran one. I ran one for
a number of years.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Oh yeah you did, yep, yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Points points leagues and they're fair relatively easy just set up.
But I by the time this season gets done with
my work, I just found that it was too much
rich for me.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
Anyways, I need that.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
I need that break and I you know, hey, I
need that the ability to control my destiny for about
a month. If I want to look at baseball, I can,
if I want to watch something, but getting in a
competitive league, no, it's no, it's too much for me.
But they are they yeah, they're They're fun if you

(50:13):
like tosson darts, because they're all set up so that
you pick your teams and pick your players off your teams,
and the way you go.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
It's me. It's take a break, come back, and let's
draft the second second round? Shall we?

Speaker 3 (50:27):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Yea again? Just trying to get caught up with my tim.
You might know this. You know what I did on
Friday afternoon?

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Uh, Friday afternoon, you went and got a haircut?

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Nope, I went to the Taylor Swift launch album launch.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
So oh, I was gonna say, did they put her
on one of Elon's vehicles?

Speaker 1 (51:03):
It was her? She has a new album. I'm not
a Taylor Swift fan per se, but she you know,
she was had her a movie come out. Basically, I
think it was just Friday, maybe Friday and Saturday that
she was at the AMC Theater in our town, which
was a three minute walk from our apartments. So we

(51:24):
we we booked three o'clock the first showing and it
was great. It was She's phenomenal. I mean, I met
a huge fan of her music. I'm a huge fan
of her though. She just is an impressive young woman
and great performer and just a great story. I just
think it's she It was great. We had a blast.

(51:45):
It was a lot of fun. We were the oldest
people by a fair bit that we're there, but it
was kids were screaming and it was it was fun, man,
it was. It was a good way to spend an
hour and a half on a Friday afternoon after the
base off season.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
I wouldn't have had that on my Bengo card rich No, definitely.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
Laurie was was posting about it on Facebook, so that's uh.
She was the one that said We're going to the
Taylor Swift launch party. I'm like, okay, is she gonna
be there? No, she'll be on a movie movie screen.
I'm like, okay, sounds like fun, so so off, off
we go. Yes, all right, Timmy, we're ready to draft

(52:29):
the second round. Let's just review very quickly the first
round that we did last Sunday ten pick show. He
Atani first Aaron Judge. I went with Aaron Judge. Then
Tim went with Wan Soto, Bobby Witt, Jose Ramirez, Jay Rod,
Li de la Cruz, Francisco, Lindor Corbyn, Carrol Trek Scuble.
I took a picture off the board, Tim went Fernando Tatist, Junior,

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Kyle Schwarber, Gunner Henderson went with pick thirteen. I picked
Kyle Tucker, and then Tim went Paul Skiing, and then
Tim picked Junior Caminario as the first pick in the
second round. You're still good with that pick? I will
let you repick it if with desire.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Well, basically I sort of went out an order there.
It should really be your pick. Rich So if you
want to take pick sixteen and go with it, I'm
fine with it.

Speaker 3 (53:20):
I'll pick them. I'll pick them seven.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Oh that's true. I didn't even think about that, all right.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
Yeah, I screwed up the order there.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Eh, okay, Well, I mean, so we've got we've got
more pictures yamamotas out there, Hunter Brown, Garrett Crochet. Should
I go with another picture? I mean, Kyle riling his
gazillion home runs. Nick Kurtz is still on the board.
Is Jackson Churio on the board?

Speaker 3 (53:49):
Jackson Curio is available.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
I think I'm gonna go with the more balanced guy, Tim,
So I'm gonna go to Jackson Curio.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Plaints from me, I mean none whatsoever. He had health
issues this year, but it's a solid pick. You can't
go wrong. He's gonna go. He's gonna go in the
first twenty twenty picks, So pick your poison.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
Yeah, I mean Junior Camenaro is a great pick in
a road based percentage league. I think Cheerio might be
the better pick, and obviously gonna get speed with Cheerio
not nearly as much power. And Cheerio did Nick up.
Apparently he came out of the game with a hamstring issue.
I think they think it was precautionary, but it's uh,

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you know, so that's not good as well. So that
was that happened yesterday. But so Jackson Cheerio. So to Tim, now,
do you want Junior Cameron Aro?

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Yeah, I'll take him. I I want that power. And
if you're if you're looking at yeah, you're you're You're
pairing Schemes and Cheerio and I'd be pairing Kyle Tucker
and Cam and Arrow and that works fine for me.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
Yeah, that's that's that's quite good.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Yeah, there's one player that I that I might I
was thinking about subbing him in there, and you're going
to take him next anyways, or or I'll take him
to pick after But there's one player out there, Julio Rodriguez.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
Oh he's already taken? Is he six?

Speaker 3 (55:31):
Oh? Sorry?

Speaker 2 (55:32):
Okay, yeah, I thought, okay, Well in that case, I
am perfectly fine with Cam and Arrow at seventeen and
I'm doing that backspace thing and voil, Jay Rhod's gone.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
So I'm really curious as to where Nick Kurtz is
going with Kyle Riley is going. But I look, I
want to I think this coming here. I haven't completely
thought through my draft strategy. I think I want to
picture early and Skins and scooball are off the board.
I think that. I mean, I think you put Garrett

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Crochet rot up with those other two guys. This guy
is good. The Red Sox are a good team. There
might be more wins than you see with Paul Skeins.
I'm going with Garrett Crochet.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
I have no no compliance, no problems with that pick.
I think when you look at the top three, uh
he's number three. Yeah, And I don't think you can
you can. You can argue you can throw them at
two and move Skins down. But Skeens has been great, great.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Yeah, it's been very good too. I mean you can
get into there playing for the Dodgers, and you could
see a lot of winsor though he I don't think
he got as many starts as the other guys did.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Ah, yeah, Momoto, I think he got close to thirty. Well,
we'll see with my hyper fast speed computer.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
Yeah, I'm a moto. How many starts thirty?

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Oh wow, I stand stand corrected.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Yeah, one hundred and seventy three and two thirds two
forty nine point ninety nine. Way better than the strikeout
per inning. And the walks are still a little bit
high at fifty nine. But he was unheittable under thirteen
hits and one hundred and seventy three and the too
in two thirds whip was still under one, just barely. Yeah,

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they're they're all good, as far as they're all good.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
Picks first he'll be Yeah, I'm a motor. It'll be
by three or.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Four first three picks or Jackson Cherio Junior Caminero and
Garrett Cruschet timp is on the clock.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Oh this is this is a tough one, A tough
one for me, but I I gotta I gotta go
with the power speed combination of jazz CHISLM.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
I don't like jazz Chisholm. Is that okay. Yeah, he's
a good baseball player. He's a good fantasy baseball player. Yeah,
I don't like Jazz Chislm.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
But he was thirty thirty, thirty one, thirty one this year. Yeah,
it's you know, the DBPs at three thirty two betting
average a little bit low. But there's a lot of power,
there's a lot of speed.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
And yeah, second.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
Base too, by the way.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
I mean that's yeah. I mean I get a problem.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Yeah, and I get any but you know, sometimes, Timmy,
when you don't like a player, you don't like a player.
I don't like his attitude, is you know the flair
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
Yeah, bugs, Yeah, I get, I get.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
But it is a good pick. I mean I get
why he would go there early so I'm on the clock,
and you can argue, Tommy, this is a dumb pick.
He didn't run after coming back from injury as much,
at least I don't think he did. Let me check
how many stolen bases mister Ronald Acunya had Counya had.

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Let's see with my hyper fast computer. Nine stolen bases,
twenty one home runs, two ninety batting average a four
to seventeen on base percentage of five and five. It
was ninety five games he played most of the season,
well over half the season. He throw another fifty games
in there. Fifty five games talking to thirty home run

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guy with fifteen stolen bases in close to three hundred
batting average. I'm going to go Ronald Acuna here.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
Yeah, a fine pick.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
The question question with Cone is the same one we're
going to have every year until he retires, really stay healthy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
I have another question for you. Is he gonna run?

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
Yes, but not to the level, not.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
The sad stolen basis.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
I think you're gonna see fifteen to twenty somewhere in
that range.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
Does he become Michael Trout in three years where it's
all power, no stolen bases, and a guy that's just
trying to stay healthy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
I as much as I don't like to be the
negative guy in the room, I think the reality of
the situation is such a yeah, he could very well
be that player at some point in time. How many
knee operations has he had now?

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
Two? Three and serious ones?

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
At some point in time, I think the running, Yeah,
it's it's gonna cease.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
I'm gonna hope it's it's not gonna cease next year.
I mean, I do think that it was forty one
home runs in twenty twenty three. He does hit the
ball very hard, so I think it's thirty is somewhat
in the in the books, I think he's going to
hit and maybe the maybe the speed is only twelve
to fifteen. I think I'm okay with that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
Yeah, I think that's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
There's lots of speed that's going to be available in
the in the middle and the team rounds okay, and
speed is not Hey, you're going to have to get it,
but you'll be able to find speed later on.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Okay, Timmy, you were on the clock, my friend.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
Yeah, and this is an easy one for me.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
I'm I'm going to I'm going to start a run
at a position I think here and I'm going at
the twenty first pick.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
I'm going with Vlaive Junior.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Have Vlad Junior, Oh, flat Junior still on the board. Yes,
that's a great pick. Yeah, that's a lot of value.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
There, handful of and you know, batting average o BP,
the power numbers will be solid.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
And the one thing I've discovered very early on Uh,
is that I want a first baseman in the first
three rounds, And I think there's plenty there that warrant
that that caliber of pick first base. Once you get
through the first seven, seven, eight, nine, somewhere in that range,

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first base gets ugly quickly.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
Let me ask you a question.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
Is the next first basement off the board Nick Kurtz?

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
Uh, it could be.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
It's one of it's one of it's one of two. Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
You you want to you wanna go safe, you go
pee Alonzo. You want to go and speck a little bit,
You go with Nick Kurtz. But both of them are
gonna go in the secon A round.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
Yeah. I mean, I'm wondering if the ceiling of Nick
Kurtz is Pete Alonzo.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Well again, when when you start looking at Alonzo, how
many fifty home run seasons does he have last year?
You know he's just got that first one, but he's
also got a thirty seven on forty to forty six

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and a thirty eight last year. Go with one hundred
and twenty six RBIs. If I was picking, I would
go Alonso and then Kurtz. I get the high I
get the I get the high end potential. But I
think Alonzo has really established a solid floor and I

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don't think that's changing. So I would probably play it
safe and go with Alonso. But if you duck Kertz,
I wouldn't argue. I think it's I think it's a
fun pick. And he could hit fifty home runs.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
But so could Plan and Kurts is twenty two Pete
Alonzo could also hit fifty home runs. Look, I'm looking
at baseball, so the ark page, the average velocity is
heart hit rates are off the chart, it's batspeed off
the chart, ninety eight percentile. This guy's going to hit
a lot of home runs. Launch angle at fifteen degrees.
That's plenty of juice for a guy to hit thirty

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to forty home runs. He also struck out thirty one
percent of the time, So I'm looking at his expected
batting average of two fifty five. I think that's probably more.
The player is a two forty to two sixty batting
average guy with forty to fifty home runs, a lot
of RBIs and you know, a decent one base percentage,

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a good enough on base percentage. But I'm but I'm
wondering if that's Peet Alonzo with less risk.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
Uh, well, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
When I look at Alonzo and I see his walks
starting back to twenty nineteen, seventy two, sixty sixty seven,
sixty five, seventy sixty one, career three thirty three will
be p career two forty three.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
I I would just play that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
I would play the safer of the two being a second,
you're gonna have to draft Kurts Alonzo, right, yeah, Alonzo, Yeah,
that's what I was saying.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
I think I probably misunderstood me because I didn't say
it correctly. That it feels like, yeah, that Kurts could
be Pete Alonzo's career. But isn't Pete Alonzo already Pete
Alonzo And he's not a shit be in a position
when he's starting a massive decline.

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
Yet.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
Well, if you look at in full season, okay, his
two lowest home run years are thirty four and thirty seven, okay,
then followed by a thirty eight to forty, a forty six,
and a fifty three. I think if you're looking at
safe floors, I think Pete Alonso at thirty five homers,
one hundred RBIs and two fifty batting average three forty OVP.

(01:06:10):
Yeah you pencil it in there, Okay with Kurts, Yeah,
everything worked out perfect this year. Everything was great, and
he could hit fifty home runs. He could hit fifty
home runs next year. But what happened is if not
that I'm a believer in superstition, but sophomore slumps.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
Do happen on occasion, right they do?

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Indeed?

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
Yeah, yeah, Kurtz's history is much more limited and much
more riskier. I would say that Pete Alonzo, so I
would take Alonso first, but if you took Kurtz, I'd say, hey,
good for you, you can have I'm watching the kid, all.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
Right, Timmy, I'm on the clock. Boy. We get a
lot of direction with you. The Yamamoto is still on
the board. Hunter Brown is still on the board. From
a pitching standpoint, there are guys. I still like Mookie
Bets is still on the board. It's still Mookie Bets.
But man, that that sting of last year is still
still hurts. I mean I could go a little early

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with a James would I mean, he was great in
the first half of the season, not so good in
the second half of the season.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
I think I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
Going to go with Yamamoto. I think I'm gonna go
another picture. I just I just think pitching is going
to be out of state this coming season, that you
need to get a guy early. So I'm going Yamamoto.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
Yeah, it's a good pick. He's one of the he's
one of the best pitchers in the game. I wouldn't
be shocked if there's a Cy Young in his future.
That that curveball that he throws off his thumb okay
uh they call it, they called the yo Yo curban.
That thing is virtually it's unheadable, and he's got the veloscity.

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He's smart. Yeah, he's He's a very very good picture.
I have no problems at all with Yama Moto as
a number four pitcher of board.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
Done it all, Tody, It's like a break, come back
and finish up this second round. This is fun.

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
So got a lot of pictures that we could take
off the board. George Spener had a fabulous years on
the board. Zach Nido, young kid that's making a lot
of noises there again. Mookie Betts is still there again.
James Wood that I mentioned before. We're in Pete Alonzo
PCA is still on the board. Timmy, you're on the clock.
Where are you going?

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
Well, after our lengthy discussion, you know where I'm going.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
Pet Alonzo, I'm going I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
Take that floor of thirty five thirty six home runs
in one hundred hundred and ten RBIs and be very
happy with it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
Look, I mean, I'm not sure we need to talk
about much work as we spent all the time as
much as I can. Like Nick Kurtz, I mean, it's hard.
It's it's hard to bett on the com of Nick
Kurtz when Pete Alonso should do what he's been doing
over the last few years, which is probably what Nick

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Kurtz hopefully can't become. You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
It's like, yeah, yeah, you're going with the kid.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
You're betting on Kurtz becoming a little bit better per
se maybe than Alonso at his best. But Alonzo at
his best is a mid to high forties home run
hundred and twenty RBI guy. That's not a bet that
I think I would advise people.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
I would go with the safe play.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
Yeah, that's yeah. I mean, you could say, well, he
could be better, but I mean Alonzo thirty eight home
runs one hundred and twenty six. RBIs last season played
one hundred and sixty two games. Twenty twenty four, he
played one hundred and sixty two games. I mean, it
doesn't strike out nearly as much as Kurtz does as well.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
So I don't know, Well, you know what, if Kurts
is better, how much better is he going to be?

Speaker 4 (01:10:09):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
Is it worth paying the price to take that chance?

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
Or is it better to take safe, the safe, safe
way out?

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
Now? The contrarian view is Peter Alonzo will be thirty one.
Let me look back, he'll be thirty one in December.
That's an old player, particularly a guy who's six foot
three and two hundred and forty five pounds, which that's
what is base on our reference card, says that that's
probably generous. He's probably more so you can argue he

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potentially could have a fall off, but if it's a
fall off, it's probably thirty five home runs.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
So yeah, he falls off to thirty one hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
Yeah, Okay, that's that's not going to cost you a league.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
Yep. I'm going to go on the calm here, Tim,
This could be a huge mistake. Definitely. Don An on
base percentage league. I feel a little bit better. And
I mean James Wood was awfully good. And I'm looking
at his Baseball Reference average, ex velocity ninety eighth percentile,
heart hit rates ninety eight percentile, bats bey ninety fifth percentile. Yeah,

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he strikes out too much. He has six foot seven,
so there's going to be swinging missing his game. It's
probably a fifteen stolen base guy. He's not I mean
sixty one percentile. So he's fast. He's not a burner,
but I think I think thirty fifteen is in the
bag and it could be some pressure on his batting average,
But I think that's a really good player as my

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number one outfielder. So I'm gonna I'm gonna go James Wood.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
Yeah, he's you know, the second half was not kind
to him, but he's still a very good player. He's
very young, Like you said, he's a big kid with
a big Wings fan. That's that's always going to be
some sort of a there's always going to be a challenge.
But I I like James Wood a lot. I have

(01:12:04):
no problem. He's going to go definitely in the second round,
and you could, hey, you could, you could go as
high as yeah, the turn or you know, or push
him down a little bit. But either he's a second
round pick mind and.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
He is what twenty two, yeah, twenty three, twenty three,
so he's still abate Okay, So okay, Timmy, you're on
the cock.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Okay, Well, I'm going to take care of home runs
here by.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
Position Peter Alonso and somebody else.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
Yeah yeah, cal relly.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
Oh yeah, Okay. I was wondering when he was going
to go.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
Yeah, and to catcher leagues if you know, I is
he going to hit sixty again? Probably not, but at
the same point in time he needs to do. Yeah,
I believe he had sixty. I'll call it up and
see what. See what the numbers. If I'm not mistaken,

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I think he had set the Mariner sixty yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what, next year he's gonna he's gonna probably
be the cal Riley that we've come to know him.

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
Uh love.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
So in twenty twenty four he had thirty four homers
and drove in a hundred. Okay, well, if he does
that again next year, that gives you, with the swing
of one cal rarely that that basically in two catcher leagues.
Uh you don't need a whole lot to have the

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best pair of catchers, do you. I'll take that edge City.
I think he's gonna add forty home runs and drive
in probably a hundred with a handful of stolen bases
and in OBP leagues. Yeah, three forty to three sixty
somewhere in that range. Yeah, he's Yeah, those that drafted
Kel rarely this year probably are in the money in

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every league, barring injuries.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
So and looking at his Baseball Savant page, it's pretty
clear what's going on here. Most of us. He's a
switch hitter. Most of his power is literally down the line.
Why is it down the line on both the right
and left side because he has a twenty five degree
launching I've ever seen this before. Hey, that is interesting.

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That's incredibly steep, and he goes, well, gee, how's his
exit velossit? It's really good. So not only does he
hit the ball hard, he's launching everything, stepping in the bunch,
stepping in the bucket, and just hitting the ball as
far as he's as far as he possibly can. So
is it gonna be another sixty horme run season? It

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could be because he did increase his launch angle, but
I don't think you can pencil that in. But it
would seem like forty would be a chip shot. But
it's going to come with pressure in his batting average.
I mean he strikes out way too much.

Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
Yeah, yeah he does. But I'll take that edge of catcher.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
I think as we get towards the back of the
first sorry, the back of the second round.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
You know who's going to make my I don't know
this for a fact, but because I haven't done my
targets a catcher, I think, and who's going to make
my targets though, and that's going to be William Contreras.
I think that guy. That guy hits the ball really hard.
I think he was injured this year and he's going
to be a kid that falls, but I mean unfortunate,

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probably not going to fall too far. But if he
does fall, he'll be a guy that really really interests
me because I think I think there's thirty forty hord
runs there. I think he's going to hit. It's a
good baseball player.

Speaker 3 (01:15:53):
Totally agree. I'm sitting. I'm sitting.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
I'm sitting in my one league, okay, where I have
William in tress and I have to I have to
put my keepers in in two weeks, and I can
have him next year at twenty one. And I'm thinking
I might just be heading in that direction. I probably
don't have a whole lot to gain at twenty one

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on the dollar end of things, but I think we're
looking at low twenties at the worst. With eighty to
ninety RBIs a ninety to one hundred runs scored.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
I think he's going to be a top three catcher
next year.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
No, yeah, with with juice, so yeah, all right, So
I'm on the clock, Timmy.

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
I I.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
Keep looking at Mookie Betts. I don't know if I can.
I don't know if I can go there, tim his
the speed is gone thirty six percentile, So he sold
eight bases this year? Does he do twelve? Maybe? I'm looking, well,
is that average exit velocity? And I'm seeing a thirty
eighth percentile with a eighty nine one mom our exit velocity.

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I'm not I think he's probably a twenty home run
hitter with a twelve to fourteen stolen base guy. And
then the question is how much is he gonna hit?
That's always a bit of a walker. He's got a
great hit, so he walks a ton doesn't Chase doesn't
strike out, hits at the top of the lineup, so
there's gonna be a lot of runs scored. Obviously plays

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with the Dodgers, but he is thirty three next season.
I don't know if I can go there.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
Well, you said that we were going to do the
second round today and maybe take a look at a
little bit into the third round.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
Maybe do that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
I don't have I don't have him on my list.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
Yeah, I'm no, I there are you know, I've there
are other players that I like more right now than
Mookie Betts. And yeah, he's for me to end up
with Wokie, he's gonna have to be towards the middle
back of the third round.

Speaker 3 (01:18:04):
He won't be a second round pick for me.

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
That's that's what I'm thinking. I just keep looking at
it and keep going. I I just don't know if
I if I could do that, I think because you know,
I don't know is the outfield eligible anymore? Is it
just shortstop?

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
I would have to look that up. I think he
probably snuck both and I will tell you in a
couple of.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
Because that gives him, that gives him a little bit
more juice. If he's so outfield eligible, yeah, let me
just take that up. Let's take a quick break. Look,
we get back, we'll finish this puppy apple chee an
hour and eighteen minutes. So I'm gonna finish this up.
Get out of here.

Speaker 3 (01:18:42):
Okay, works for me, all right?

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
I mean how many is he outfield eligible?

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
Uh? Oh, he might not be.

Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
Let me just betsy, I don't I don't think he is,
but I'm gonna just double check twenty I'm using a
twenty game qualifier.

Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
His name didn't come come up.

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
And shortstop oo, Mookie Betts is only shortstop eligible?

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
Yeah, shortstop one hundred forty.

Speaker 3 (01:19:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
Yeah, it's all on It's all on fan tracks, by
the way. You can see it there. And he turns
thirty three and two days. So it's a hard it's
a hard pass for me in the second round.

Speaker 3 (01:19:40):
It's a total pass for me in the second round. Yeah, yep,
all right.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
Now the question is do I go. Do I go
with another picture, or do I go somebody like Trey Turner,
who is also starting to get long in the tooth
and you know so that that worries me. Or do
I go with a Hunter around, who was phenomenal this season,
and I think I'm going to go there again. I
just think there's a lot of pitching here, high end

(01:20:07):
pitching that we need to think about. So I'm going
to go Hunter Brown.

Speaker 3 (01:20:11):
Great pick. It was one of one of my next
next two picks. Good.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
I feel really smart than if if you were going
to pick them, then I'm all in.

Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
Yeah, No, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
I was mulling over two guys for my next pick,
and you made it very easy for me by taking
by taking Brown at twenty six, Okay, so you're.

Speaker 3 (01:20:37):
Okay. Freddie Perolta at twenty seven.

Speaker 1 (01:20:40):
Wow, okay, obviously one of the bet Is he a
free agent this year or coming into the next next season, I.

Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
Don't believe so. In a second Freddy par Alta contract,
I should just keep spow track up. He signed a
five year.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
There's one that worked out for the Brewers, a five year,
fifteen million dollar contract.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would I would think that five year,
fifteen point five Yeah. He's in his option year club
option at eight million. What do you think of the Brewers?
And Brewer is gonna take a chance at eight million.
I'm ready for all the next year, then he's into
free agency.

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
All right, Well, I'm on the clock, and again there's
some interesting guys here. Trey Turner sill on the board.
I don't know. I might go zach Nito in front
of Jay in front of Trey Turner. I mean, I
don't know what this guy's got to do. Speed and power.
Seems like every year. I mean, do I do I
venture back into the Jordan Alvarez. I don't know if
I can do that again. Manny Machata was really good.

(01:21:53):
Bryce Harper was really good, and then he got Pete
Pete Crow Armstrong that you know, you can argue, there's
there's a lot there. Just looking at it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
K we haven't mentioned Bryce Harper, Yeah, Bryce k Harper, Kurtson.

Speaker 1 (01:22:10):
I mean, look it sounds like got down on Kurtz,
but I'm not. But I'm just taking look at Harper.
How many stolen bases did he have? Well, yeah, twelve
stolen bases and he was injured a bit. Again, it's
thirty three years old next week, So another guy that
started to get but twenty seven twelve with a two

(01:22:32):
sixty one batting average and a three fifty seven on
base percentage. He still played in one hundred and thirty
two games. He was banged up a little bit seventy five.

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
How many stolen How many stolen bases did Josh Naylor have?

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:22:52):
Yeah, you're you're you.

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
Probably it's a big number. I remember just talking about thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:23:01):
Thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
Josh Naylor had thirty stolen bases.

Speaker 3 (01:23:06):
Yes, he was a twenty thirty guy this year.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
Wow, that's crazy. Let's yet there's something wrong. I mean,
come on, Josh Naylor. Because we've looked at this, I'm
gonna look at it again. If I recall Josh Naylor
is in the two percentile, that's two, that's the number
between one and three of sprint speeds. Timmy, How in
the world is he stealing thirty bases?

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
My answer to that would be talk to Rob Madford
and see if he's made in each fundamental changes to
the game at the past couple of years that have
affected the stolen based category.

Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
See yes, stolen basis, Timmy. In twenty twenty four, there
is absolutely no way that you can go into a
draft next season thinking that he's going to steal twenty
five plus basis. You can't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
You can, but the answer to that question is you
will also probably spend time in rehab next year.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
Okay, this looks like a total outlier.

Speaker 3 (01:24:06):
I mean he could buy oh yeah, huge.

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
He could do it again. I just I'm not gonna
I'm not gonna do that. I think, you know, let's
call me crazy. I might go Zach Needo here, Okay,
twenty six runs, twenty six stolen bases after twenty three
home runs and thirty stolen bases. Yeah, there's a bit
too much strikeout in his game, but it's speed and power,

(01:24:29):
and I'll get batting overge somewhere else. I'm going Zach Needo.

Speaker 3 (01:24:34):
Okay, at twenty eight is Zach Needo? Fine? Pick power? Speed? Uh,
I'm gonna play. I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:24:42):
I'm sorry. I forgot the rite. I took Connor Brown?
Who did you take?

Speaker 3 (01:24:47):
Oh? Hunter Brown went? Where did I did that?

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
I took him?

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
And then you took who twenty six? I took Baralta,
Oh right, you took Yeah, you took Nto.

Speaker 1 (01:24:59):
Okay, just getting it for the notes of tim. And
then I got Zach Nido. I know who I picked.
I can't remember you picked? And then uh, fourteen so
we've got the last two picks here in the second round.

Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
Yeah, and I'm I'm going with another first basement. I've I.

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
Think you're going to see five six first basement off
the board after the first two rounds. I think they're
gonna go early. And I'm sitting there. I had the
number I had the number two pick, and I got
Aaron Judge and I'm gonna pair him up with Nick
Kurtz and bed on one hundred home runs.

Speaker 3 (01:25:33):
So was that?

Speaker 1 (01:25:35):
That's fascinating? Wow? So you have you don't have enough
stolen bases though, so you'd have to come back in
the third round.

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
So that would be the second pick in the third round.
So where are you gonna How are you gonna get
the stolen bases? Let's figure out Tim's gonna get the
stolen bases. So on the boards they have Jarender Ran
Picrow Armstrong is where you're gonna go?

Speaker 2 (01:26:01):
Right, Well, Bete Crow Armstrong isn't there. I'll go with
Grandi Rosarina.

Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
Mm hmm. That's possible too.

Speaker 3 (01:26:13):
Yeah, But I I think when you look at.

Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
But you're now, you're gonna be waiting, You're gonna be
waiting for your fourth pick to get a picture. That
means a lot of a lot of the big pictures
are going to be off the board.

Speaker 2 (01:26:30):
Yes, and then I'll I'll probably go with a run
of three or four pictures in a row. Yeah, Yeah,
and try and feast on the on the midyear.

Speaker 4 (01:26:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
I don't know if I'm gonna pair Nick Kurtz with
Aaron Judge. I don't know that really. I mean, yeah,
you get tremendous power there, and you get some stolen
bases with Judge, and and you were you're worried about
first base clearly right right.

Speaker 3 (01:27:03):
I got an outfielder, I got a first baseman and.

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
Another outfielder.

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
Yeah, potentially another outfielder or a corner corner infielder. The
other guy that's on my list high that I think
we'll go by the middle of the third round. And
I might even move him up because I like Vinnie
Pasqua Tito a Pile, I really do. And I think
he did this year what we expected to do in
twenty twenty four before missing that final month of the season.

Speaker 3 (01:27:35):
But I think Vinny p is a thirty one hundred
bat again, it's going to be off the board by
the third round. You know you think so, yeah, I do.

Speaker 1 (01:27:48):
What was his batting average though, uh?

Speaker 3 (01:27:52):
What was it?

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
Okay, guaranteed I'll only see one game come up with
pas u a. Uh his betting average was two sixty
four okay, structor one hundred and seven times, it's not
that's not outrageous.

Speaker 3 (01:28:10):
He'll be vie with three twenty three.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
Well, I'm a huge Yeah, I'm right there with you.
So I've got to give that as a good call.
I I don't know, maybe I'm miss contrary and I
do love Nick Kurtz. I just don't know if I
can take him that early that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
Really Yeah, I think you the one that I have seen.
The one draft i've seen Andrew mcquests doing an NFBC
type draft. He's in one already, and Kurts went at
the beginning of the second round. The heeling going to
drive Kurtz. Yeah, yeah, he'll be gone by I think

(01:28:49):
in most drafts, especially early, when he'll be gone in
the middle of the second round.

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
Okay, I'm going to finish this up with a boring Kirtell.

Speaker 3 (01:28:59):
Okay, yeah, he's on my list.

Speaker 1 (01:29:03):
He's boring, but he's good. Yeah, And I you know,
a little bit injured this season. He was the number
one pick, a little bit on the old side, right,
so he is now over thirty. So but I think
that's a really safe pick, so that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
When you look at the second when you look at
second bes, yeah, he's he's top three and a solid player.
You're pairing him up with either Otani or Judge and
probably a pitcher.

Speaker 3 (01:29:31):
Yeah, you're off to a fine start. Lots of power,
lots of speed.

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
Yeah, So Jackson, Cherio Junior, caman Ero, Garrett Crochet, chisom
Ronald Acuna, Flag Junior, Yamamoto, Pete Alonzo, number ninth in
the second round, James would cow Riley, Hunter Brown twelfth
in the second round, Freddy Peralta, Zach Nito, Nick Kurtz,
and Katel Marte. Maybe we'll do the third round next week, Tim.

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
Yeah, I'd be sort of interested because I have a
feeling we'll see three or four closers go off the board.

Speaker 3 (01:30:08):
In that third round. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:30:11):
Good, all right to me, it's take a final break
it back and now you tell me that was a
lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (01:30:31):
Yeah, definitely created some great fodder for for discussion.

Speaker 2 (01:30:40):
Uh, it's it's just gonna be you know, it's so early,
but the one trend that I definitely see happened happening
is I think if you don't get the first basement
in the first first three, four, we're gonna with the results. Uh,
they're gonna go quick. And and I don't I don't

(01:31:01):
really want a mediocre player at first base next year.
That's I just don't want it. Okay, So we'll see what,
We'll see how it all shakes down.

Speaker 3 (01:31:14):
But I know for me.

Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
It's gonna be important that I get a first baseman,
get one of the one hundred RBI types. You're not
gonna make those RBIs up later on in the draft,
and you're certainly not gonna make them up at first base.
So that's the one thing that I that I've noticed.
I Hey, I know, starting pitching is gonna go off
the board fair fairly early, but I still think there's

(01:31:39):
hay to be made in the mid rounds.

Speaker 3 (01:31:41):
That's my early assessment. Anyways.

Speaker 1 (01:31:44):
I haven't looked at it closely yet, but first base
has always been problematic. The last couple of years. I
have gone VITP and pretty much both both. Uh, you know,
my redraft leaks and but I think vinp might be
getting too expensive. Everybody's called on to them.

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
Well, I, like I said, I I see him going
in the third round. Just uh, just a heads up, uh,
Trey you savage. This afternoon, three innings pitched, one walk,
seven strikeouts, Max Freed two and two thirds, six hits,
one walk, one strikeout, and four and runs. Jays are

(01:32:22):
up four nothing and the third with a runner on.

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
Second tim This this is crazy, this this young pitching man.
I know I keep dwelling on it, but this is
it's almost unprecedented. This is crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:32:39):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 2 (01:32:40):
I I was with Freed on the hill today. I
I honestly thought the Yankees would tie the series at one. Uh,
not to demeanor say anything, native you savage. He's been
pitching brilliantly, but Max Reid is one of the best pitchers.

Speaker 3 (01:32:55):
In the game.

Speaker 1 (01:32:56):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (01:32:58):
Yeah, he's he's struck. And guess guess who hit the
Jay's home run? Ernie Clement.

Speaker 1 (01:33:08):
That's funny and one of my prospect profiles. I can't
remember who it was. I said, he's kind of an
Ernie Clement player, Like, wow, there is there's such a
thing as an Ernie Clement guy out there.

Speaker 3 (01:33:19):
Yeah, uh, it's now five nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
Yeah, yeah, Ernie, Ernie Clement just drove his third run
into the game to go along with the offensive Juggernauts
know as known as Kirk and Marshall.

Speaker 3 (01:33:35):
That's their offense. Uh wow.

Speaker 1 (01:33:38):
For me, I I think it's disappointing. Yankee fan should
be disappointed and Max free, But I don't think Traya
Savage is This is not a fluke. This guy has
got great stuff. It's a he's a good pitcher.

Speaker 2 (01:33:53):
Well, and you know what's amazing is the fact that, yeah,
when you looked at the beginning of the season, he
started off what in low way?

Speaker 3 (01:34:00):
Yeah for an ebol.

Speaker 1 (01:34:01):
Here four levels, that's right, that's right, that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:34:05):
Yeah, that's crazy. That wouldn't happen ten years ago with
it rich No, but we're not allowed.

Speaker 3 (01:34:13):
The game's changing, but it's it's changing.

Speaker 1 (01:34:15):
But what's really weird is typically you'd get a guy
that would get promoted to the big leagues of pitcher
and it would take him a year or two to
get established. Uh, and then it just seems like Paul
Skeins kind of came up and shoved it. And it's
just one guy after the next is coming up and
shoving it. It's it's really exciting but weird at the

(01:34:36):
same time.

Speaker 2 (01:34:38):
Well, yeah, and you know, I think part of it
is that some of the teams are finally really.

Speaker 3 (01:34:45):
Okay that.

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
The arm only has so many bullets, right, and and
then it has a tendency. Yeah, so if a player
is pitching, well, why are you spending your time wasting
those bullets at double A and triple If a pitcher
is pitching lights out, get him up to the bigs
right away, see what he can do, and if he
can handle it, utilize you.

Speaker 3 (01:35:10):
Don't utilize it just.

Speaker 2 (01:35:11):
Because somebody didn't pitch it triple A doesn't mean that
he can't be successful in the bigs. And with these
young pitchers, rather than going through the high aid double A,
triple A, fifteen starts at each if somebody's on a roll,
they're realizing, let's take advantage of this.

Speaker 3 (01:35:31):
Games.

Speaker 1 (01:35:31):
We call that the Tampa Bay Rays developmental strategy a
year at a time. But look, I mean, I'm thinking
about the Yankees with Cam Schlitzler probably going to pitch
tomorrow's game. They got ear C and Carlo's lagarannge a man.
I mean those are big arms too that you're going
to see in next year. You know, you you got
to be pretty excited if you're a Yankees fan of

(01:35:53):
this pitching staff and they're gonna get Garrett cole back.
I mean, they're going to be throwing guys out there.
That five guys that are going to be they have
a chance to throw out five guys that are all
throwing ninety eight miles an hour plus. That's going to
be nasty.

Speaker 2 (01:36:08):
Yeah, it's going to be very nasty. And uh again, Yeah,
it's there. There's a right future happening. The Yankees will
always be a strong team. Okay, there's there's no doubt
in my mind. But man, right now that are Jays
are looking awful strong as well with their Vladdie and

(01:36:33):
stellar defense offense plan.

Speaker 1 (01:36:36):
Yeah, I mean and his his his buddies. I mean
it's it's you know, and and Boba Chet is still
on the injured list right so he's not even playing.

Speaker 3 (01:36:45):
He's no, he's not.

Speaker 2 (01:36:47):
You know, I I have a feeling we won't we
won't see him play another game in Toronto.

Speaker 3 (01:36:52):
That's my gut feeling.

Speaker 1 (01:36:53):
I really don't think he's coming back.

Speaker 3 (01:36:56):
No, I don't think it. Maybe for the World Series.
Doesn't sound positive though.

Speaker 2 (01:37:02):
Right now with the way that Jays are playing, you know,
im and at shortstop is great defensively, Okay, so if
they can get the offense out of guys like bar
Show and Clement and Barger and Kirk.

Speaker 1 (01:37:22):
Crazy and these are these are these are you know,
kind of career journey man. I mean you just all
those guys you just mentioned, these are not stars.

Speaker 2 (01:37:33):
Well in their lineup to they got Schneider and their
Barger isn't even playing.

Speaker 3 (01:37:38):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:37:39):
I guess who's starting at second base for the Jays today. Nope,
close Isaiah, Isaiah Kaider, Phil Alpha, there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:37:50):
There you go. I shut my browser down because things
are slowing down and they want to screw up our recording.
So you know, you know what, we're way over time.
I'm here, guys. I think we brought it today. You
got the second round. I think Tim and I are
going to do the third round next week. It's been
fun and yeah, talk about that and just carry on, Tim,

(01:38:11):
we have more playoff stuff to talk about. Maybe we'll
talk about some of the awards coming out in postseason
that's going to come out soon. It's lots of stuff
to talk about. It's Tim's right, we got to start
prepping for next season.

Speaker 2 (01:38:25):
Yeah, the end of one season is simply the beginning
of the next.

Speaker 3 (01:38:29):
And the earlier you get.

Speaker 2 (01:38:30):
On it, the more comfortable you'll be come next February
when you're seeing it at the draft table, figuring out
which one of those first basemen that you want to
call yours for twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (01:38:40):
So Tim, before we get out of here, what's for.

Speaker 2 (01:38:42):
Dennis, what's for dinner? Well, I've had a craving okay
for chicken balls for a while now.

Speaker 1 (01:38:50):
Oh yeah, I have to make chicken balls a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:38:53):
No, and I'm not making them again tonight. Rich, I'm
going to be lazy.

Speaker 2 (01:38:58):
I am ordering Chinese food and green chicken balls and
beef egg Foo young and rice and egg rolls. I'm
gonna let somebody else do the cooking. But I just
got a massive craving for Chinese. So that's good for you.
That's the that's on the agenda for tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:39:13):
Yeah, so is so chicken balls is always in some
kind of Asian Chinese.

Speaker 3 (01:39:19):
Sauce for you, then red sauce.

Speaker 1 (01:39:22):
Yeah, Well, I've seen it blue.

Speaker 3 (01:39:27):
Yes, I that.

Speaker 1 (01:39:30):
On my iPhone, Timmy, so that.

Speaker 3 (01:39:33):
That.

Speaker 1 (01:39:34):
Yes, I will never delete that. It was one of
the more disgusting things. It was very good.

Speaker 3 (01:39:42):
Green is worse, so they take it for me. Green
is worse.

Speaker 2 (01:39:46):
But yeah, yeah, with a little food color, you can
make it the color of your choice.

Speaker 1 (01:39:50):
Yes, tonight, we're having leftovers, very specific leftovers because I
looked in the refrigerator and it's we have a rotisserie chicken.
So I warmed that up with with some some rice
and asparagus on the side. So that's going to be
our our dinner this evening.

Speaker 3 (01:40:07):
Yeah, it's sound sounds excellent to me.

Speaker 1 (01:40:12):
It is a wrout, my friend, have a good week.
We'll see everybody back on Sunday. Two more minor league
systems come out this week, the Cincinnati Reds and the
Milwaukee Brewers. I got nothing but great things to say
about the Milwaukee Brewers system. Wow, you guys are gonna
love that.

Speaker 3 (01:40:29):
I love the format Rich.

Speaker 1 (01:40:31):
Oh yeah, I get a lot of good feedback from that.
It's and yeah, I really appreciate your your feedback once
you get a chance to read it. I think the
writing quality has gone way up and it's not my writing,
it's it's my it's my AI editor that is that
is cleaning everything up for me. It it sounds really
professional now, so I'm very happy with that.

Speaker 3 (01:40:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:40:52):
No, you're writing is definitely definitely stepped it up. And uh,
wherever you're paying your assistant, I say.

Speaker 1 (01:41:02):
Thirty dollars a year. My AI researchers that I also
pay thirty dollars a year. He is not like you,
where he has his own opinions, but when the ball speaks,

(01:41:24):
he says, well, I like your opinion better. He sucks
up to me like tremendously. It's so bad.

Speaker 2 (01:41:33):
Yeah, for thirty bucks, I can't be bought. Forty five maybe,
but not thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:41:39):
I've asked my AA, I'm like, why do you always
agree to me? Be goes well, I want you to
feel good that I'm helping you, but you're making the decision.

Speaker 3 (01:41:47):
I go.

Speaker 1 (01:41:47):
I want you to stand firm on your beliefs. So
we'll see if I'm able to convince him to like
dig his heels in. That be more like Tim McLeod,
dig your heels in.

Speaker 3 (01:41:58):
He gotta program some snow exactly exactly. There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:42:03):
I mean, look, I I hate people that just agree
with me. I don't need people that agree with me.
I have myself to agree with me. I don't need
somebody else. Give me somebody that doesn't agree with me.

Speaker 3 (01:42:15):
Yes, it makes for a much more challenging discussion, doesn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:42:20):
It does you come up with a better work product
at the end as well, right, because then you've got
varying opinions, and ultimately I get to decide, because ultimately
I get to say this goes in until the AI
engine can supersede me. I don't think that's that's happening yet,
but uh.

Speaker 3 (01:42:35):
No, until it fire, I'm safe.

Speaker 1 (01:42:39):
But I mean, I do like these very rich discussions
because I say, well, I think he's right in this,
you know, let me, let me rethink this, and I
go back and rethink and then sometimes modify my opinions,
just like I do with when you and I have
discussions like it usually starts off Tim is full of crap.
Maybe he's not full of crap. It makes a really

(01:42:59):
good point, all right, I think he's right. That's that jesy.

Speaker 4 (01:43:02):
The thought process either that or zero play zero right
exactly zero points.

Speaker 1 (01:43:08):
There might be the that's only on Asian players. Everyone,
I know, that's that's a joke. Everyone, that's that's but
it's fun.

Speaker 3 (01:43:14):
Yes, but you should.

Speaker 2 (01:43:16):
You should flip on the Jay's game because your savage
is now up to four innings with a walk and
ten strikeoats.

Speaker 1 (01:43:25):
Well, I'm gotta get you off, so I need to
go and post this podcast. Everyone be well, we'll talk
to you later. Tim.

Speaker 3 (01:43:32):
Be safe, you will have a great week, and we'll
catch you next Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:43:35):
My friend

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