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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And green.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
It's citations everyone at rich Wilsa. Welcome to Fantasy Baseball Live.
Today is October twelfth, about three o'clock in the afternoon.
As always, I'm here with my good buddy, mister Tim McCleod.
Tim has gotten winter up there yet.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Actually, the past couple of days have been a little chilly,
but prior to that we were sitting seventy. We even
had a few eighty plus days. In the past week
and a half, it's been unseasonably mild so far, and
it's supposed to be in the sixties all this week.
So good news from the north. The winter hasn't moved

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in yet and as long as that, as long as
that holds, Jimmy will be a happy camper.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah, it's been it's been quite nice here. It's been
as as with you. It's been a little chilly this week.
We've got this big storm coming up the east coast.
It's already hit our North Carolina home. So hopefully that's
all standing. And now it's going to be rainy for
the next couple of days. But then you know, fall
is here still pretty nice and it's been a remarkable fall,
and baseball has nothing to complain about because the weather's

(01:28):
been nearly perfect for baseball games.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah. How many rainoads have we had so far?

Speaker 2 (01:33):
I think zero. There was one of the games that
one of the Detroit games was delayed. There was the
lay start, the one that Scooba pitched. I think that
was last Tuesday, so I think it was, or maybe
it was a game after school. By anyway, some one
of the Detroit games got delayed.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yeah. Other than that, it's it's been smooth sailing.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah. Have you watched any of the playoff games?

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah? Actually, I I've watched most of them. In between
I'm getting my keepers all assembled for the XFL, and
I think I got that project done. And I said,
working on some catchers, and yeah, watching a lot of
baseball and enjoying it. I really am it. Just it
almost seems weird that, like we're into extra innings and

(02:19):
there's no runner on second base. But it's a good weird.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, that was one of my questions for you. Then
I want to go back and then we'll paulse I
want to go back and talk to you about your
setting your keepers. But I mean that was one of
that was my question because I'm with you I mean,
we've seen eleven fifteen any games, and you just don't
see that anymore in the regular season. I mean, I
know you're a traditionalist, so you're probably enjoying this. I

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am as well. I'm glad they suspended that for the playoffs.
Let them play.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Well, yeah, exactly, let them play in you know, the
Mariners Tigers game. How could how could anybody complain that
the game took too long? Yeah, like, I just if
you do, you don't love the game as far as
I'm concerned. Yeah, it was every inning, there were opportunities,
It was exciting. Yeah, there weren't a pile of runs scored.

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But do you need a pile of runs scored to
have an exciting, fun game to watch? No, I don't
think you do.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
I don't think you do either. I don't think that
is the general consensus by people who are setting the rules, though.
I think they believe because you're competing with football and basketball,
which are much more run and running gun type of thing,
a lot more entertainment going on, that you need to

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have that excitement and a pitcher's duel or you know,
three outs with you know, a man on second base
with no outs is not exciting.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yeah, I don't know. I am a traditionalist. I get it.
In season, you don't. They don't want games going nineteen
innings in season when you play one hundred and sixty
two do you really need that? You know? I think
they've been addressed the end season. But I don't think
anything should be decided in a playoff format by having

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somebody starting at second base or third base or wherever
you know, earn it. That's part, that's part, that's part
of the game.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
I haven't seen the ratings of some of these longer games.
I hope they're good. I fear they will not be.
I just, you know, I'm I just think at least
the Americans like instant gratification. I mean, it's just what
the whole world is about. And you know, you had
to wait for three and a half hours to find
out who won. You know that that Mariners Tigers.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Game, Well, yeah, and all the Yankee fans are and
Red Sox fans will be, you know, painting a picture
of negative on the whole thing. So yeah, I don't
know why. I think major League Baseball, with the way
this is shaking down, I don't think this. I don't
think this is going to be a ratings bonanza for

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the World Series.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Well, I mean, make it that's that's that's the only
big market that's really well. Toronto is a big market,
but it's Canada.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
But I don't I.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Don't think the I do not think it's the Brewers
and the Mariners. Would that would call some consternation up
in Major League Baseball headquarters. I don't think they would
be very happy with that matchup at all.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Well, I don't think they're going to be happy with
the ALE representative whether it's the Brewers or the Jays.
Either way, it's fair fair, yeah, the AL. But if
the Brewers beat the Dodgers, then that truly, yeah, they
would be very very cranky. I think is see is

(06:01):
the right word. And yeah, I think it's good for baseball.
I love seeing the Brewers doing well and the Mariners
and I saw it. It's good for the game.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
I saw a very interesting article in the Wall Street Journal,
in the business paper here in the US, and they
talked about the Brewers and the Dodgers being a critical
series for the twenty twenty six collective Bargaining agreement because
if the Brewers can knock off the Dodgers. That's going

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to put a bit of a counter argument for the
owners who want to have some kind of financial ceiling,
some kind of you know, kind of pay ceiling on everything.
Because if the Brewers can defeat the Mighty Dodgers, the
smallest market team in baseball, then anybody can. You just

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have to have good management, good player scouting, et cetera,
et cetera, which is what the I thought it was
a really interesting take on that matchup. So the owners
might be rooting for the Dodgers to win, and the
players might be rooting for, you know, the Brewers to
win to give them a bit of a leg up.
I thought that was fascinating take on it.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yeah, it makes perfect sense. And let's face it, the
court of public opinion comes into play, and it's going
to be hard for Major League Baseball and their management
team to justify anything as far as a cap, okay
being necessity. If the Brewers win, they're not gonna yeah,

(07:37):
they're not going to sway the public. Well yeah, hey,
major League Baseball is saying we need a salary cap. Hey,
the Brewers just won the World Series where they need
a cap for Yeah, you know what, I mean yeah,
and I think the public would be very supportive of
the players as compared to owners should that occur. Yeah,
it makes total sense.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
I think that to me. If if you talk to
kind of a not a big Major League Baseball fan,
but just somebody who watches the World Series, they want
to see show Hey Otani play. And my guess is
that's what people because that's he is the biggest name
recognition in baseball and people people are curious and they
want to see it. So I think that's what people

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will be looking for. And if he's not there, I
think ratings will be down. I think he'll be disappointing
overall because I don't think it'll be talked about enough
because that means it will probably be the Mariners against
the Brewers, and I think that's that's gonna be tough,
or the or the Brewers against the Blue Jays.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
So yeah, no, I agree. I think the casual fan
wants to see Stani. Yeah, Okay, they want to see
Mookie Betts, they they want they want to see Aaron Judge.
They don't want to see South Raylick as much, but
maybe they should after did you hear what he did
after the last game, I did not.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
I mean, it's all the home run, but I didn't.
I didn't. And see the what he did?

Speaker 3 (09:01):
What did he do at the at the end of
the game, after all the celebrating and everything was over,
he went around the the perimeter and took pictures with
any fans that wanted pictures with their with their kids.
You know, that's awesome, and really he gets it, and

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there's a reason that he's you know, he's he's loved
by the fans in Milwaukee. When I saw that, and
he was just basically walking around the perimeter of the
net and anybody who wanted a picture with their kids, whatever, Yeah,
that's cool. I liked I liked seeing that rich.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Really, but I'll just give you just a very small
sample size. My we had brunch with my all of
my family, so my daughter and her husband, and my
son and his wife and their two children. So my
three year old grandson, Jack's, they come to our place.
He's sitting down. Agay said Jackson. I heard you were
watching Theankees game because my daughter in law is a

(10:02):
big Yankees fan and my son trying to become a
Yankees fan. He goes, yeah, Aaron Judge is great. I
mean un you know, unfettered. This is a three year
old already knows who Aaron Judges. He likes Aaron Judge
because Aaron Judge is famous. Everybody talks about it. That's
That's just the momentum of marketing and the way it is.

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People love the famous players.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yes they do. And he's working on his golf game.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
That's that he is. Indeed, So I wanted to read
you something the I so for some reason, when I
go out to Facebook, I get just mostly junk, but
I get a lot of Yankees fan sites for some reason.
So this is from Yankees. Three sixty six guys that

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need to be gone this winter. Anthony Vocal one two,
Luke Weaver three, most of the bullpen outside of Bednar
for Brian Cashman in his front office. Five Aaron Boone
and his staff. So the Yankee fans are not happy.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Then they didn't win it. They're not happy. There's their
standards are not making the playoffs, not doing okay, their
standards are winning at all. They don't win at all. Yeah,
there's there's a problem in Yankee Hey, they might be
right on some of those calls, but I think it's

(11:29):
a little a little magnified. Oh yeah, I mean so
it's yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Brian Cashman's been around forever. Aaron Aaron Boone's been around forever.
Do any of them lose their job after the season?

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Ah? I personally, I'm not a big Aaron Boone fan.
I I think there's a danger that he might be.
But I don't see Cashman though. Boone Y asked Cashman.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Though, Yeah, yeah, I I just don't know. I mean,
I don't think it'll make a difference because the Yankees
will continue to do what they do. They got these
great young pitchers down there. None them are going to
see the light of to day. They're going to bring
in you know, famous guy who costs a lot of
money and gumb up the works. And you know, also

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the Brewers are bringing up Miserowski and he's winning the
final fifth game, right, that's the difference.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Well yeah, and you know, when you look at the
way the Yankees are constructed their team, like pitching wise,
they should be incredibly strong next year.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yes, they should.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
Very very strong, especially uh, you know, being that Garrett
Cole will be back. Okay, we we saw how how
well Cam Schlittler did this year, your pair, you know,
with you have.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
To say that name right.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yeah, it's so easy to it's so easy. Well, yeah,
it's like I had the same problem with Clark Smith
for a while. It took at It took a while
for me to get that one right, that knee five
who I still would attempt. But uh, you know, they've
got a good team, they really do. There's not a

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whole lot lacking. Uh. One of the one of the
problems that they do have, and it's one that they
created themselves is and Carlos Den and I don't know,
he's now down to two years left. I believe on
those two years, I'm just gonna scroll up here because

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I know I wrote it down somewhere. Well, thirty four
million over the next two years is the time for
them to just walk away? You know. With Cody Bellinger,
you know gonna offer they're going, yeah, they're they're gonna
need They're gonna need an outfielder. Okay, It's it's as
simple as that. Spencer Spencer j Spencer Jones, Cavallero can

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play in the outfield Domingus, but by locking their d
H slot up with Stanton, it does create a problem
it really does.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Well, saw that Judge. Remember when Judge came back and
you know he's right, he couldn't play the outfield, and
you know you were stuck because you're not gonna take
your best player and not playing because you're playing gian
Carlos Stan.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Yeah, and again it's a problem. I I think personally,
if I were the Yankees, I would address that situation
and I would probably pay it off and move on.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah, they're gonna you think do you think they'll give up?
Do you think they give up on Volpie? That's not
my question. I'm gonna ask her. Do you think they'll
give up on Volpi?

Speaker 3 (15:01):
I don't think so. He's twenty four years old. I
know he's already got three years and defensively, yeah, there's
been some there's been some problems, But how do you
give up on a twenty four year old with so
much and I believe the potential is still there. The bullpen, Yeah,
if you got, you got Williams, and you got, you

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got Weaver, you got you got a whole bunch of names,
and they're the only one that's important really is David Bedner.
At least to me, they need to they need to
get some They need to get some lefties in that pen.
The only lefty they have is Tim Hill, so they
a left handed reliever would definitely help. But again, it's
a good it's a good team. They'll be contending again

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next year, and they should be with a couple of moves. Uh,
they should be in a situation where they're a better
team next year, especially pitching. And you know what, I
hear all the rumors. Okay, Murakami's going to the Yankees, Okay,
or the Dodgers. Now, if the Yankees signed Marrakami Murrikammy

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to a big deal, it would it would be the
equivalent of what they did with g and Carlos Stanton
at seventy years ago. Point. Okay, Murakami can hit the
ball a long way. He has trouble. He has trouble
with high basket balls. Point, he strikes out a lot.
He also walks a lot. He hit the ball a mile,
But defensively, he won't cut it at third base, and

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that leaves first base and.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
They want to be playing third base. That's a great
defender at third base. And I think once you have
us a full season and in New York, he's gonna
he might hit thirty home runs. He hits the ball
really hard.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
Mm hmmm. So again all the rumors I hear about Murrakami.
If the Yankees invest in Mirrakami, they've got him, they
got to take care of the contract. And I think
it would be putting them defensively in the same situation
as they are with Stanton, because I think if Stanton's healthy,
eating hit.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
For you ho run sure, Yeah, he's he was healthy
this year, didn't he still wasn't healthy. It's about as
good as he did well.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yeah, and I think they'd be doing Like I said,
I would be shocked if they invested in Murakami because
I think it would be again putting more dis in
the dysfunction.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
So I don't think about Americamedy except I love playing
zero point zero when when you say his name, so
thank you for saying it so many times, have you
had a good chuckle? So uh yes. Look back to Volty. Look,
I saw him a lot in the minor leagues. I
always thought he'd moved to second base. I'm not surprised

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about the defensive struggles he's had, and I think he's
just I think he'll be a more effective second basement.
I do worry that he is wearing out his welcome
in New York. I mean, the Yankee fans can be
absolutely brutal, and they they were brutal with that kid
at the end of the season, and he obviously did
not play well. He was really struggling. And unfortunately jad

(18:10):
Chism plays short second base right, and he's not going
to move the shortstop. So I almost feel like Volpi
might be a guy without a home, particularly if the
Yankees decide to bring in a big name shortstop. And
we'd have to take a look at the free agent
list to find that out. But I do worry about
the plight of Anthony Volpia, but he would look good

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at a lot of other uniforms and I think would
play quite well.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Well. And again, depending on what they want to do,
they could move Jazz Chizzer into the Oafield good Night,
that is true, Volpi second base and bring in a shortstop.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
I also worry about Jayson Domingos because those those platoon
splits are pretty real and playing a championship level team
like the Yankees have and you don't get a chance
to fix that. So it'll be interesting to see what
they do out there as well.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
So yeah, no, they've got some decisions to make, but
the process of making those decisions, let's hope they make
their team a little more functional. Yeah, I agree with
you because it Yeah, it's it's a problem, and it's
one that they should really, they should really address. Ben

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Rice should be their first basement for the next five years,
five five to seven years.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, that's the signing of Paul Goldsman, who I think retired.
I think then he retired this week.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
I'm not sure. I didn't guess.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Pretty sure. I thought I saw it, but again I
can't tell what's what's real and what's fake on some
of the stuff that's that's coming out there. But you know,
I agree, I mean Ben right, and when it turned
out they should have just given the job that Ben
Rice out of the out of the shoot. But I
get it, he wasn't proven and Paul Goldschmid, it's a
typical Yankee signing. Let me get a guy the end

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of his career, the CV has any magic left and
h and then eventually they gave they gave the job
to the right guy in the second half anyway, so
I guess it's no harm done.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
There no, no no harm done there. But I again,
I they got some decisions to make, and for Yankee
fans out there, let's hope they make the right ones.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Okay, well, we spent a lot of time with the Yankees.
But that's what you say. I mean, the Yankees are
an important, if not the most important baseball franchise this
top three, right, I mean, so you have to talk
about it, but you're up in Canada, so you're probably
getting a lot of the feeds on what's happening with
the Blue Jays. I can't figure out how they're doing this.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Well, it's easy. It's it's simple. Everyone from the top
to bottom of the lineup is contributing. Defense has been
consistently great at home, not so much on the word
on the road. I think they've got the fourth fewest
errors at home. They're one of the worst teams on
the road. But again, yeah, it is odd. You know,

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the bullpen stepped it up and they're playing solid and
getting getting getting getting by. The starting pitching has been
extremely good. Uh, and they're playing m mistake free baseball.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Define he's he's showing why he's a superstar. That guy
has been absolutely great. I mean, he got off to
a slow start this season but finished up. The numbers
were there, and he's just really stepped it up in
the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Yeah, he's definitely that team leader. George Springer again, another veteran.
You look at Kirk Okay, he's played solid baseball. Guys
like Barger and Ernie Clement and Nathan Lukes.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Those guys you can't.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
I mean, that's sure they should.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Okay, they're gonna go. Let's say they make it to
the World Series against the Dodgers, and you look at
that lineup and you're gonna go, Okay, we'll give you
Vlad Junior, and we'll give you George Springer, but you're
gonna take every other Dodger, doesn't matter who they're throwing there.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Yeah, and then you watch the Oscars drop one in
the outfield. Okay, And it's become self explandory. If a
team can go through the course of a short long
haul by a making very few mistakes, not walking people,
the pitching staff, not walking people, not the letting, letting,

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teams have to earn it rather than be given away,
and they're gonna be good teams. And the Jays are
doing exactly that. They're it's it's it's solid. You're right.
They don't have the big names. They don't have the
guys sitting in six, seven and eight that are are
gonna hit thirty home runs. But they're all contributing and

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making very few mistakes, and they it works.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yeah. I mean, I guess name recognition. I guess it
would go Dodgers and there's a huge drop. I guess
is at the Mariners next, I mean with Jay Rod
and cal Riley, and then the pitching staff, and then
it's and then it's debatable who's got the least known team.
I guess it's still the Blue Jays still have the

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least known players. I would think even there's even slightly
more well known players in Brewer Land, but maybe there's not.
I mean, maybe those are just two. You know, how
are they doing that kind of thing?

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Yeah? I think the Brewers are well known with people
that follow baseball. You know, Contreras and freylic and Bryce's terrang,
But I don't think any of them carry the star
Wars star power of lighting. Okay, that's fair. Yeah, you
know any Christian Yelich. Hey, the Brewers have got an

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exceptionally good team, very really do, like yeah, and guys
like ask the average person. Yeah, Luis Arties is playing great,
d isn't he? Who's Louise Who? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah, I forget about my buddy Jackson. Sure I hit
three eighty nine, So I mean that that guy is.
I still think he's going to be the core of
that team, really really good team. Timm, I'll take a
break a second, went a little bit longer. We've only
got three three divisions or three contests to go through,
so so we'll get through them all and they get
to our drafting of the third round. Let's take a

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quick break and be right back. So Tim and I
were talking for the start of the podcast, and I
just told him I had a bit of a writer's block.

(24:58):
And it's not that I I don't know what to write.
I don't want to write. So I got to get
over I got to get over the hump. But we
are our town. We live in a wonderful town here
in New Jersey called Marstown, and they have an annual book
festival which attracts some of the best writers around the
country or the world. And we had I think Robin Cook,

(25:20):
who is a I mean, he's a thriller writer that's
written a dozens of books and best sellers and blah
blah blah blah blah. But they had an opening night.
They always have an opening night. And the guy who
spoke was a guy named Rick Atkinson. You probably have
never heard of him, have you, No, So I had

(25:42):
not either. Rick Atkinson is one of the foremost history
writers in the US. He's won three Pulitzer Prizes and
he's written the trilogy trilogy on World War Two, and
a trilogy now he's working on for the American Revolutionary War.
So he talked about the middle of his books and

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one of the things, and I was thinking about my
writer's block as he was talking. And the guy was wonderful.
It was just really informative and I learned a ton
And you know, obviously they give you the book as
part of the opening ceremony thing, and so if I
can read through all of it, I'll get to it.
But he said that he's worked on it for three
years and he wrote two hundred and fifty thousand words.

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He goes, which is crazy, And I'm thinking, Tim, I'm
going to write one hundred and fifty thousand words in
three months, maybe I'm do a writer's block taking this day.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Now.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Granted, the quality of writing is, you know, way off
at the other ends of the scale. I mean, this
guy is a professional writer. I'm a hack.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
But I mean you got to remember, though, that all
history writers, that's just old news.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
That's true, that's a fair point. But I thought, I'm thinking, gee,
I can, I could do another I should be able
to finish this up. So I was trying to get
myself some motivation as I'm listening to it. Yeah, I can.
I can get through this. So anyway, so that.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
You know what you do, Richard, the longer you've been
doing this, okay, the more your personal archives are built up, right, Okay,
So when you get writer's block, like I was trying
to get something done, I was suffering through the same
sort of thing. So I went back to an article
that I wrote. Was it fourteen years ago? Hey, you
start posting the old stuff that you nailed it on.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Okay, nobody will Nobody will know. Nobody know this new
kid coming up, Michael Trout, and it's gonna be really good.
Nobody will recognize that.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Yeah, I found an article I wrote and it was
the first other than I think it was writer wrote
Writers News Agency. Yeah, yeah, uh yeah, other than them,
I think I think I wrote the first article on
a role as Chapman in the existence, and I'm gonna

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I'm gonna throw it up there on the Discord site
just for a chuckle. They know they picked up the
the fact that he uh skipped down in Holland. Okay,
But as far as like fantasy and in the baseball world,
I think I think my article was the first one
that actually looked at Chapman. This is before he even

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signed with a team, so it was within a week
of him Yeah, it was within a week of him
actually walking away in Holland. And I it's it's pretty cool.
I'll send it your way and you can give it
a give it a spy.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
But that's I'd never remember the Holland connection. Why did
he walk away in Holland?

Speaker 3 (28:54):
They were playing in Holland.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Well, the Cuban team is playing in holl And.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
He got it, okay, Yeah, that's when he defected. Yep,
that's when when he defected and he ended up in
Central America after that. But it's an interesting thing. I'll
send it your way, you can give it a give
me a critique from what's that sixteen years ago?

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Wow? Wow? Well my plan is to get back to writing.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
This week.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
I got to write some Damily notes for our Patreon members.
I haven't written anything this week, so I'm going to
try to do some of the what's happening on the uh,
what's happening now on the Arizona Fall League. So I
write writer RecA what happened last week and tried to
do that this evening. So that's that's my fore way
hopey back into it.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah, So I'll ease my way back into it and
then finish up the Diamond bags. So I got plenty
of content that's going to be out over the next
couple of months. So that's part of it. I don't
have anything, no pressure on me to get the thing out.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
And I'll send you all my old stuff, just change
the name Rich to go.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
So the Dodgers defeated the Phillies, and look if you
didn't everybody saw a lot of people didn't see the game.
But if you missed it, I mean the orient kirkering,
I mean it's just just Timmy choked. I mean, I
mean just threw the ball to the wrong and happens.
It through to the wrong Even if you didn't throw
it away, he was not going to get the guy

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running home. He could have gotten the guy at a
first base. He just made a mistake and he choked.
And you see that. And we've all choked in our
life many many times. We've just never done it in
front of millions of people to be rebroadcasted multiple millions
of times for everybody to see. It's just it just sucks.

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And you know, hopefully the Phillies fans won't builder built.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Yeah. Bill Buckner will attest to that.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's the same.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Yeah, Yeah, But you know, I like to I'd like
to see from that is the first thing. As soon
as he came off the field, the manager pulled him aside, Yeah,
and gave him a hug. And you know, hey, we're
all human beings. We make errors, we make mistakes. He's

(31:13):
gonna take his lumps in the media forever and ever.
But at the same point in time, should that define
him as an individual? No, it shouldn't. He made a mistake.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
We move on, yep, Yeah, for sure. And it was
a shame. I mean, I I mean, all of these
series were great probably. The Blue Jays pretty much blew
out the Yankees. I mean at least three out of
the four games they blow them out. But I thought
the Dodger in Phillies was a great series. It really
could have gone either way. And I still like the

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Phillies team a lot. The Dodgers are flat out clicking.
Sasaki now is the closer. We talked about that last week.
I mean, the Dodgers looked really really good. I mean,
the Brewers are going to have their hands toul.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
Yeah they are, you know, and with the Saki now
in the ninth inning, that bullpen is stabilized, and that's
something that was needed badly. Uh you know what I mean.
You look at the Dodgers release that that that shot
that Schwarmer hits, has that has that landed yet? Like
that's incredibly wrong. Yeah yeah, the roof of the pavilion

(32:21):
or whatever, and you know, like he hit that thing
a mile. But again, Dodgers are Dodgers are a tough team,
and if they have addressed with the Zaki that bullpen problem,
that makes them even stronger.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
I mean that could have been the missing link. If
if he is an effective closer for these for this
a NLCS and then in a World Series, they're gonna
be tough to him. They're gonna be really, really good.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
They are. But I am rooting for the Brewers.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
You know. Look, I'm rooting for the Brewers as well.
No disrespect to the Dodgers and all the Dodgers fans,
but I'm I'm rooting for the Brewers because I love
the I mean, I when I have no true rooting interests,
I want to root for the underdog.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
So I'm not sure I'm the same.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
I'm not sure how I'm rooting for the American like
you're probably rooting for your your home country. Uh I,
I don't know either one. I'm not so sure I've
got a dog in that fight.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
Yeah, it's a rule I have to I have to root. Okay,
it's yeah, it's it's relatively simple. But you know what,
the Mariners. I like their team, I really do. Uh.
I like that pitching. And we said, uh heading into
this play you know, into the playoffs, if the Mariners starting, yeah, hey,
that's a team to fear because of that starting pitching, right,

(33:44):
And I think the team should be a little bit
of feared. Maybe not for the first game or two, okay,
but after after that, the Mariners have got a lot
of arms. They can throw all that very good arms.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Mariner's defeat the Tigers three to two, that was a
series that I mean you either one of those teams
could have won. I mean, Scooble pitched great, and the
fifth and deciding game, Kirby pitched well. It just I mean,
it was a shame that somebody had to lose. But
eventually the Mariners did win. And again we already talked

(34:20):
about the fifteen inning style game. You and I are
both thumbs up on that.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Yeah, and you know what was fascinating was that scooball,
as great as he pitched, he can get a w
did he?

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Nope, he didn't. That's because I mean, look at that
lineup for the the Tigers. I mean it's just we
talked about this last week. I'll repeat ourselves. It's just
not good enough to that Tigers lineup needs more bats
in there. I think you're going to see these young kids,
particularly McGonagall come up early, followed by Clark, fall Abray

(34:53):
brus O. I think it's going to be a different
team by the time the playoffs start next season. I
think it's going to be team and transition. But they
got to bring up these guys. They got to move
on from Javier Baiaz and Tray Sweeney, and these guys
aren't good enough.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
Yeah, And I think the bullpen. I was sort of
on a fence with regards to will West heading into
twenty twenty six, but I think he proved his value
in the playoffs, and I think will Vest will be
the closer heading into twenty twenty six in Detroit. The
bullpen will be fine. They need another starter, but they'll
find one. I think Detroit has to be it has

(35:32):
to be the favorite in the in the Central if
we picked one today, at least my favorite.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
I think you're right, and look it's I agree. I'm
hoping that you're right with will Vest. I have no
idea if you're right. But because I haven't been you
and I both talked. We've got a a lot of
dynasty leagues, So I don't know if I'm wishful thinking
here or if it's getting in the way of my analysis.
But I haven't really analyzed it. I know he was

(35:58):
he was closing over fin again in the playoffs. If
that means anything.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Yeah, I think it does, and he pitched well, So
I would have to think, you know, if the Tigers
are going to spend spend money to their benefit, I
don't think it should be in the bullpen. And I
think Best proof that that he can handle it not
on a not only on an every day basis, but
also in the big games. Okay, uh, he looks solid,

(36:27):
So I'm all in on Best. I think the Tiger's
gotta find themselves a starting pitcher somewhere, yep.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
I mean, I think if you've got if you got
a healthy school, well you're never going to be out
of it. I mean because he's always going to be
able to give you a quality start every five games
of the chance to win. And that's that's gonna happen
through the regular season, and he throw them in the
playoffs and you have a chance to win.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Yeah, and Detroit next year is an important year because
I believe Scooble's heading into free agency the year after.
So next year is that? Really?

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (37:00):
I can I can double I can double check that
right now with my hyper speed.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
When is Trek Scooble contrag free agent.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Spotec? Where are we.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
After the twenty twenty sixth season?

Speaker 3 (37:19):
Yeah, this is their year. They need a starting pitcher.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah. Yeah, because he's a bar As client. So the
question is, you know, look, I mean, if they're struggling
in the middle of the season, he's probably gone at
the deadline.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
So yeah, I'm I'm looking at his career earnings of
twenty seven million, two hundred and fourteen dollars and six
hundred and fifty six twenty seven to it, he will
learn more in arbitration next year than his career earnings.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
I don't know what a backup because he's gonna win
the side young guy.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
By the way, we have not yet thirty million million,
thirty mili.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Yeah, I mean I usually, oh it's MLB Trade Rumors
does a really good job at figuring out what these
guys are going to get in free agencies. Will have
to earn out free agencies, excuse me, arbitration, and we'll
see what they're saying. But we haven't done a segment
at all on on who's gonna win the cy young
and MVPs to me because there's not much to say.

(38:29):
I mean, we know who's gonna win.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Yeah, I was gonna say the Yeah, the the interesting
the interesting thing will be Cal Riley and Aaron Judge.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Yeah, it's gonna be Judge. What's your next question? I mean,
he's gonna get some support, but Judge is gonna win Judges.
Judge is the best offensive, but Judges, I mean everything else,
Judge was better than he was.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
So I mean it's well's not not a throwing runners
over the second.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
That's true, that's true. I mean the Judge was ridiculous.
I mean, how many homers of Judge have I mean,
it wasn't that that short of sixty, but if you
take a look at the on base percentage, the batting
average was crazy. I mean it's just he's just a
better player than Kyle Riley. Sorry, Kyle Riley, You're not
going to win. It's going to be Aaron Judge. So
it's Judging.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
I'll go sneaking liquor on just just because.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
I'm not going to take you. I'm not going to
take your your food out of your mouth. So it's
going to be Judge, and it's going to be a
Tani and Judge is going to be Scooble and Skians.
It's going to be Kurtz and maybe the only thing
is who's going to win the National League Rookie of
the Year. It's either the catcher from Atlanta or the

(39:47):
picture or or Baldwin or or not boy the kid
out of Chicago. Yes, exactly, not Ethan, but yes, uh yeah, Wharton,
Kate Horton.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Yeah, sorry, So.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
It's either one. Otherwise there's really nothing to talk about.
I mean that that's no. There is no and it's
they'll just leave the ten things rolling. Okay. Anyway, the
Cubs and Brewers last night, great game. Three home runs
by the Brewers and it was done. And I mean
Bryce Terring, what can you say, Tim.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
Yeah, yeah, you can't. You can't say a lot, David. Yeah,
it was the Brewers. The Brewers shut him down. And
what I thought was interesting is they brought in McGill
to start the game. The Brewers did their ninth inning,
guy went healthy, and they had Abner Uibay go two

(40:49):
innings at the end. I'm keeping Abner your eBay in
the XFL draft that's coming. I've got him at six
bucks and i I'm being Abner u Reba over Jose Ferrara,
believe it or not.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Oh my buddy, Jose Ferrera, come on.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Yeah, how Cay almost one hundred stray oats. McGill has
never stayed healthy. Improved it again this year. I like
your reba a lot moving forward, and I wouldn't be
surprised to see him garner next year at least ten
to fifteen, possibly more saves. So I'm all in on Abnue.
You rebate.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
So one of my baseballs of on breakdowns. This was
before Bryce Terrang was a name. Bryce Terrang, twenty ninth,
twenty twenty four.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
This is what I wrote. That's going back.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Yeah, that was two It was two seasons ago, right, yeah, yeah,
all right, So I'll reach you what I wrote A
lot to like exclamation part exclamation marks fast, ninety fifth
percent on very successful at ceiling base, at the ceiling
base thing nineteen of twenty candidly should be able to
seal on many bases as they led him thirty to
fifty annually, and he sold how many last.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
Season a few.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
He's improved his contact rate and walks above league average,
and both have a chance improved as he's only twenty four.
The high on base percentage will help his sole in
based totals as well. It's a recipe for a three
hundred hitter I'll dial that down a bit just because
of his poor bat speed. That's his only problem. He
doesn't have great bat speed. He does make the most
of it, though, as he square up rate is high.

(42:25):
Therefore I can I think I can count on at
least fifteen ten to fifteen home runs. Combine that with
a two eighty to three hundred bating average, seventy points
more for on base percentage, and thirty to forty maybe
more stolen bases. That's an elite player with dare I
say low risk so that I was all in on
Bryce Terrang when I wrote about him, and somewhat's played out.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
Well, yeah, if you take over at the twenty three, okay,
he stole twenty six bases. In twenty four he stole fifty.
Last year he stole twenty four. The difference between twenty
four and twenty five were is let him run? Okay?

Speaker 2 (43:00):
It was.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
It was as simple as that. And when you moved
to twenty five, his home runs up from seven to eighteen. Yeah,
obp moved to three point fifty nine from two eighty
five three sixteen, scored almost one hundred runs. Brice Dray
is a very very good base Paller and you know
who I think could post not as high a stolen

(43:23):
base total, but I think the power and everything is
self Freylek. I think he's almost the same player, good
on base skills, steal some bases, fifteen to twenty home runs.
Terrang and Freylik are our key cogs in the Brewers offense.
They really are both.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Very good players. Okay, Timmy, let's break it down. Alcs good.
We got the Blue Jays and the and the Mariners.
Who wins and how many.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
The blue Jays in seven?

Speaker 2 (44:04):
I'm gonna go.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
I think one of ye. I think one of the
problems with the Mariners are gonna have is in the
first two games to get through to get by Detroit,
they threw everything Adam including including their entire starting rotation,
and the bullpen has been worked very, very hard. I

(44:28):
think the Jays have a distinct advantage in those first
two games, and if they don't take advantage of it,
Seattle's gonna win that series.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Yeah, I'm going with the Mariners. I'm gonna go to
the Mariners and six. I just think that pitching is
too strong. I do agree with TAM's caveat in fact
that was one of the things we didn't really get
into that. Kirby went five innings, Gilbert two innings, and
then in the third with Castile, So I mean that
was the last games they used some guys Tommy and

(44:58):
fifteen innings will take it out of you. So and
at the end of a season to boot.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
Well, yeah, they're going with Bryce Miller. Okay, in Game one.
He threw fifty five pitches last Wednesday, so they're moving
him up a day. But he wasn't really worked all
that hard on the Wednesday. Now I think he's coming
off an injury as well, so they've got to get
in that in that first game. They got to get

(45:28):
six innings oead of Bryce Miller or it'll be a
problem because there's nothing left in the bullpen, and then
from there you're moving. I think it's Gilbert up. He
pitched Friday, He'll be pitching on the Monday again on
short rest. So it's those first two games are key
for me. If the Jays don't win those first two games,

(45:52):
I think it puts them in a bit of a bind.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
I think they're going to burn Bryce Miller. To me,
he's he's gonna have They're just gonna he could give
up fifteen runs and they're gonna keep him out there.
It's just gonna be he's gonna take one for the
team because because they got to think of the thing
as a seven game series and not worry about trying
to win game one. Everybody's tired. They need an extra

(46:15):
day to rest everybody. Now they're they're playing tonight.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Right, They're playing tonight. Yeah. If I was, if I
was a Mariner's rich, what I would do is I
would go in with Miller tonight. If they can find
a way to get a victory tonight, then what I
would do is I would take Gilbert and move him
to Game three and go with a bullpen.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
Totally agree in game two, give the rest.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
YEP. So I think the night's game is very important
with the marriage. I just think the Mariners, I mean,
I think the Mariners are a better team. I just
at some point, I just don't understand how the Blue
Jays are doing this. Blad Junior is a great, great player.
I don't get how they're doing it. So I'm gonna
go with the better team and the Mariners. Who do

(47:01):
you have in the in the in the National League. Uh,
you got to stick with your Brewers and the Brewers
and the j still right.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
So yeah, I've been I've been running. I've been. I've
been running them since the beginning of the playoffs. If
I'm not mistaken, Yeah, yeah, I I'm gonna go with
the Brewers. Uh. I think the bullpens actually show up paper. Actually,
I was looking on Twitter and I can't remember. There's
a couple of sites that actually ran and ran numbers

(47:34):
and projections and whatever, and they're they're saying statistically, the
Brewers have a slight edge over the Dodgers, which I
sort of found surprising. It's kind of be defense making
the difference would be, my guess, defense and the and
the bullpen. But uh, I think the Brewers can do it.
I'd love to see it happen. I really would.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
My heart is for the Brewers. I'm rooting for the Brewers.
I think the Dodgers going to win, and I think
they'll win fairly decisively, so I think it'll be in
five or six games that they'll win. I just think
the Dodgers are great. I think the only team that
can stop the Dodgers are the Mariners. With that great pitching.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
So yeah, the definite, definitely. I I if I were
the Dodgers and they win this series, I would want
to go up against the J's, I think as compared
to the Mariners. Yep, that starting pitching is really good.
And let's face it, starting pitching, they'll win you games,
right and.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Indeed it will to me to take a break and
get back. And we're going to draft the third round.
Everyone a little long in those first two segments, but

(48:55):
a lot of fun to cover.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
Ryan, I agree, Okay.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Go ahead. Sorry I thought you were done talking.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
Yeah, no, I just I just had a quick question
for you. When we're drafting this third round, should we
take be taking into account the players drafted in the
first two and draft accordingly, or just draft the best
player and just say the heck with it?

Speaker 2 (49:19):
What do you mean, well, like.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
For instance, that Otani went first, right, Yeah, Kate el
Marte is the second pick to go with Otani. So
should we should we waited? Like there's teams that don't
have any pitching. Should we be putting pitching in there

(49:42):
to draft it as if we were drafting teams or
just drafting best players?

Speaker 2 (49:47):
What do you think?

Speaker 3 (49:50):
I sort of like the idea of trying to map
because it does come into play. Okay, if somebody has
got right now two bats, odds are pretty good, they're
gonna look at pitching right possibly, Yeah, it just it's
more work.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
But uh, okay, why don't we just see how it
plays out? I think that would be fun to figure out.
But for our listeners, just to remind you what I'm
gonna do the first round. In the second round, Tim
goes show, Heyo Tani One, I went Aaron, Judge too
than One, Soto, Bobby Witt, Junior, Jose Ramirez, Juliuro Rodriguez.

(50:25):
Tim tried to draft him in the second round everybody,
but he was already on my team. Eli, Edla Cruz, Francisco,
Lindor Corbyn, Carrol Trek, Scouble, Fernando Tatist, Junior, Kyle Schwarberg,
Gunner Henderson, Kyle Tucker, Paul Skins, Kyle Tucker now saying
we'll see, maybe I won't re sign with the Cubs. Jimmy.
So he's gonna go to free agency and somebody's gonna

(50:48):
pay him a gazillion dollars.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
And then some and then's the second round.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Jackson Churio junior, Cameronaro, Garrett Crochet, Jazz Chisholm, Ronald Acunie
of lad junior, Yamamoto, Pete Alonzo zero zero. I don't die.
I don't say that. I meant Yamamoto anymore, nor probably
getting closest to Sockey anymore. Pete Alonzo at eight, James

(51:17):
Wood at nine, Kyle Riley at ten, Hunter Brown, Freddie Peralta,
then Zach Nito at thirteen, Nick Kurtz at fourteen, Katel
Marte at number fifteen. Timmy, you were on the clock.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
I am on the clock. Oh okay, I am. I
am going to go.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
To Tim just so you know. Showy tani One also
on his team as Freddy Parolta. Fright, Nope, I'm sorry,
katel Marte.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
So you got two hitters, Yeah, I get, we get
we get two big bats, and I'm gonna I'm gonna
cover off the first base position and I'm going to
go with the thirty fifth first pick. I'm gonna go
with Refuel dude divers at first base because he qualifies.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
Yeah, I'm a little surprised that he lasted to the third.
Maybe I'm not. It seems like there's bad mojo going
on with him in San Francisco.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
Yeah, but you look at the numbers and you know
he's thirty. He's a thirty one hundred player qualifies at
first base. Yeah, I'll I'll take the numbers and hope
there isn't a total meltdown.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
Yeah, I had him. I had him in my next group, So,
I mean, I I did it. And but it's was
it twenty seven home run? Is that what you said?
I think that's what I saw.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
Yeah, I can't remember what he I believe he bested
one hundred RBIs Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
He still hit like two eighty seven. I mean everything
was there.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
Yeah, he doesn't qualify at third base anymore. He had
thirty five home runs last year with one hundred and
nine rbiyes nine nine runs scored. It's big numbers.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. I just, uh, you bring up this,
bring up the Fantasy Baseball player player raider at Fangrafts,
so I can see what they've got Devers. They got
him at twenty nine. Yes, thirty five home runs, yeah,

(53:27):
two fifty two and if you figured the horrible start
to the season and he wound up still still great.
So I'm on the clock. Let's see who who we've
got drafted at two was Aaron Judge and then uh
Nick Kurtz, So I got boppers, So I need speed.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
You need speed.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
I'm going Trey Turner.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
Okay, and a fine pick it is.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Yeah, you forget to Turner's still at thirty five stolen bases, right,
so he's still a really good player and did miss time?

Speaker 3 (54:03):
Yeah, exactly. Trey Turner is a fine pick when you
get into the third round. Traditionally he was sitting as
an early second round pick. So it's yeah, maybe you're
you're you're sliding a bit, but not It's not anything
or shattering, is it?

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Fifteen home runs, thirty six stolen bases, ninety four run scored, Yeah,
sixty nine sixty nine RB eys. That's not great. But
otherwise he was rate at sixteenth player on the list here.
So yeah, a lot the likes still with Trey Turner.
But so am I doing it right? Timmy, I'm matching
it with the players that were drafted.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
Yeah, what's interesting is you drafted one and I drafted one.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Okay, I don't even understand that. So okay, all right,
Tim is on the clock.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
Yeah, Tim is, Tim is looking at a couple of
players that he really likes, and I gotta I gotta
go with an oatfielder here and there are there are,
there are some choices I really like, but I'm gonna
I'm gonna go with Wyatt Langford.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Yeah, he is on my list too, of the Rangers. Yep.
I mean that's a great pick. I mean speed and
power hurt a little bit last last season, but still
a very good player. Yeah. You know, it went really
quick to Trey Turner. I wonder if I should have
gone PCA there to match PCA up with all that

(55:42):
power I.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
Had, Yeah, or or maybe even Langford. Yeah, because Langford
I think it is twenty five twenty five plus stolen
based guy, isn't he He.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Was twenty two last season?

Speaker 3 (55:56):
Yeah, it's yeah. Or you know a guy that's gonna
fall a little bit further than you probably should. Randy
Rose arena also fits into that.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
I thought you packed Randy Rose Arena.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
No, I don't believe so. No, okay, but there are
there are power, speed guys there, and I'm pushing Pete
crow Armstrong down a bit.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
I am too.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
I know he had a great year, but that plate discipline,
it still needs some work, okay, And who would you
rather own next year, Pete Crow Armstrong or Bryce Terank.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Yeah, that's a really good question, you know, I can't
get out of my head, Aaron Judge coatel Marte. And
then matching that with forty stolen base what we know
with PCAs he's gonna steal bases, Yes he is. I
think that the home run pop as I've always thought
is more fifteen to twenty and whatever crazy numbers he

(57:01):
did this season, you're right. I mean on an on
base percentage league, it's tough. Uh and and even batting average.
I mean it just you know, he just never walks
and there's a lot of strikeouts. So you worry is
you know, he got dropped in the lineup, which is
gonna hurt his stolen bases? Does he become I mean

(57:22):
there would you be totally shocked if he's in the
minor leagues next season, if he gets off to a
slow start. I mean it's possible.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
I would be shocked simply because his defense makes all
the difference in the world, that's true. But yeah, with
the defense, I would say if he wasn't all world
with the glove in the oat field, yeah, I could,
I could see it, but he is so I I
don't think. I don't think that'll be occurring, but I
think I have. I have a hard time betting on

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much more than two forty for a batting average.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
Uh, it's it's a let's go back to White langfort
eighty eight percent tile and speed, hits the ball really hard.
Everything's to the pool side, so he's definitely stepping in
the bucket to hit home run pop. Her run power
does have good launch, Timmy, it's a total growth stock there.
I like that pick better than I do Trey Turner.

(58:19):
I wish I would have grabbed Wyatt langfort there. I
think he's the better player. So let's let's look at
crow Armstrong again. I know we talked about him a ton,
Just to take a look at that walk rate, fourth percentile,
strikeout rate thirty third percentile. So this is a guy
that just does not walk, Timmy, his on base percentage

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was too eighty seven, and you say, well, that's a
that's an anomaly. His on base percentage in twenty twenty
four was to eighty six.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
This was last time he posted. Last time he posted
an OBP over three hundred was in one hundred and
forty at Batch Triple A in twenty twenty three. Okay,
once he got once he got through twenty twenty three,
his first five part seasons in the minors Oba five,

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sixty three, four, thirty eight, three thirty three, seventy one,
three point fifty. Now let's move ahead to twenty four
and twenty five to eighty six to eighty seven. Who
is Pete grow Armstrong. He proved he could get on base, okay,
at the at the lower levels, but since since Triple

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A in twenty twenty four, before he got the call,
it's I don't I don't think he watchs enough and
I think it's going to be a problem.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
So when I did the analysis on Pete grow armsuck
early last early this season, I was danger Will Robinson,
I hold everybody, I just this was going to fall apart.
And it did. It did fall apart. In the second
half he went up in tremendous stats thirty one thirty five.
But besides more launching his swing, it is the identical

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profile of Rafael of Rafaela Boston Kids, Saddan Rafaela.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
It's the same guy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
If you'd statistically look at the underlying stat great defender,
great speed, terrible walk rate, decent contact rate, average exit
a lote. I mean they're almost matching up one for one.
So my thought pro was process is either Saydan Rafaela

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was underperforming or peekrow Armstrong was way overperforming. And guess
what it was both true because because Sadan Raffaela came
up last season and then Pete grow Armstrong came down,
I think you're looking at you know, if you want
Pete Crow Armstrong, wait for Saydan raphael and get him
five five rounds later. I think it's a very similar

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long term.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
Guy, Yeah, I won't. I'll have peak pro Armstrong on
one of my teams next year, and it's a keeper, okay,
And yeah, I have to keep him at the price
because even if all he does is steel thirty five
bases next year, it would still turn a profit because
it's the day I've got him for like five bucks,

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six bucks something like that. So I'll be keeping him there.
But other than that, in any re draft leagues, I
won't have peak pro Armstrong in any of my teams
next year. I most of them are OBP formats. I know,
I don't know. I just don't want it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Okay, I'm picking. I'm on the clock Bobby with Jr.
With number four. I also grabbed a pitcher or Tim
grabbed the picture for me with Freddy peroul to thank you, Tim.
Uh So that puts me on the clock with a
picture and a power speed guy. So I can go
on a lot of different directions here.

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
I'm going, Yeah, you've got you got wit and jazz Chisholm.
You don't have a bitcher there. I thought, Oh no, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry,
Freddy Peralta, yes you do. Sorry, that's okay, bad Jim.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Yeah, I four and four. You got to read backwards too.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
But I'm not dyslexic.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
I don't know. I don't know. I'm going to go
and I don't think Bryce Harper has been taking yet,
so I'm going to go Bryce Harper.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
Yeah, yeah, he hasn't. He hasn't been ticked picked.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
And I think it's a great compliment to those two players.
So if I can get out of the first three
three rounds with an elite pitcher in Freddy Peralta, all
world and Bobby went come back with a thirty home
run guy, that's going to steal some basses. I'm pretty
darn excited at first base, and we all know first
base as shallow. I kind of like.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
That, Yeah, I kind of like it. I kind of
like it as well, and it makes my decision for
my next bit real easy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
Well, let's take a quick break and uh, let's see
what to Tim is going to pick. Kind of gets
the choices starting here today for want to do a
real draft, doesn't it does.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
I'm gonna wait until the playoffs are over, and then
I'm gonna probably spend a couple hundred bucks on an
NBC once, once all the injuries are sorted out in
the playoffs and hopefully there isn't any, and I'm gonna
do an early, early one this year just because I
got a craving for it. It's okay, I haven't done
one in years. I haven't done one in years, so

(01:03:50):
I'm gonna I'm gonna toss some darts snaps.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
It's one hundred and fifty dollars US, so that's like
eight thousand dollars Canadians. Yeah, good luck coming up with
the money.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
Well, yeah, I've still got one kidney I can sell rich.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Jose Ramiris was the fifth pick, and that is that
Hunter Brown. So you got an elite pitcher and you've
got speed and power and a little old here with
Jose Ramire is still a great pick. So you can
go in a lot of different directions with your third pick.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
Yeah, and the direction I'm going in is a first
baseman and Vinnie P welcome, Wow, team McLoud.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Wow, you love yourself, Vinnie P. Do you push him
up because he's a first baseman and you're thinking, at
least the last three weeks you've been talking about how
shallow first base is or do you like him that
month much that he's he's a he is a third
round pick.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
Uh? Both? He had thirty two homes. Maybe he slung
thirty two homers last year and drove in one hundred
and thirteen runs, okay? Is his OVP was twenty three,
which is acceptable. I like Vinnibee. I think what we
saw this year was what twenty twenty four would have

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been had he played in September. Okay, maybe a little
bit more power. The RBAI is ninety seven to one thirteen.
I like Passmentino a lot, and I want to have
I want to have a first basement at the end
of three rounds. This year, and I think if, hey,
if you wouldn't have taken Harper, I probably would have.

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I would have taken Harper over past Quentino, but he
would have been gone before the end of this round.
I like him a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
I love I've always I've always loved anything. Yeah, get
him in the third round. I gotta think about that one.
But you're a better player than me. So if he's
third round for you, it's good enough for me. As
long as that who's that Japanese guy you're talking about?
Move moves osaka? What? What? I truly can't remember what.

(01:06:00):
I'm not trying to make fun of his name. I
don't remember what Muahara.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
Apparently apparently I need two lungs too, and I've got
those still.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
So Murricavy, okay, zero, just another chance for me to
see zero point zero.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
Thank you? It six pick.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
I took Jay Rod and then on my second pick,
I got ten pick cal Riley for me, so I
got two. I got well cal Riley's So when you
when you thinking either writing it down or putting in
a spreadsheet, or just mentally thinking about a guy like
Cale Riley, what do you mentally put in your brain

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for home? Runs for next.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
Season, leading the catcher category by quite a few.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
So you don't you don't have a number in my.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
Thirty Anything under thirty, I will be totally disappointed. I'm
thinking thirty five plus.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
Rally Aaron Joh, what what do you put? What do
you I'm just trying to figure out mentally, what do
you put in for a guy like Aaron Judge? You
put forty forty five?

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
Forty forty five, forty forty five, so you're forty plus.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
You're not ready to put Kyle Riley in that elite
of elite yet?

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
Power? Is that?

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
Is that my take?

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
Well, I'm just I'm just playing the I'm just being
cautious there, Okay, Okay, yeah, I think, hey, he hits
sixty this year, you can hit sixty next year. Am
I going to build my team around the player and
say he's going to hit sixty and that's how much
I'm going to build into my projections when I'm looking
at my overall team. No, I think that's Hey, I

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think you've got to be conservative when you come to
your projections. Okay, he might do it, but I feel
comfortable that he's going to hit thirty five. Like Kyle Schwarber,
you build in fifty home runs? Or do you build
in forty?

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
If you're being but I would have thought I would
have thought with Cayle Riley at sixty, you built in forty.

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
I'm all I know is I would be totally shocked
if he stays healthy and he doesn't lead all catchers
and home runs. Yeah, I would agree, I would be
I'd be shocked. Okay, wherever that number ends up being.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
All Right, So Tim is saying, I guess early what
his thought is if I understanding correctly, don't get too
don't get to pinpointed on exacting the number of home runs.
Just no, fundamentally, you're going to be well above average
for home runs from a catcher, and probably well above
the second place guy that William contrasted. It easily could

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be run in that same category.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
You know, when I think cal Riley right now? You
know what I think of I think of sal Prez
a few years ago. So who sal Perez? Oh okay, okay,
remember when sel Perez had that monster season? Oh okay,
and again I can't I'm just gonna call it up

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right now. He had one season I think it was
two three years ago. Okay, Like this year Perez hit
thirty home runs and drove in one hundred RBIs okay.
But if you could go back to twenty twenty one, okay,
he hit forty eight home runs, drove in one hundred
and twenty one. Okay, Since then, he's hit twenty three,

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twenty three, twenty seven, and thirty. I don't I'm playing.
I'm looking at Perez and saying, cal Riley, Okay, you
had your sixty. Okay, you've proved you can hit the
ball a long way. But I feel more that he's
going to be akin to sell Perez moving forward and
the way his career has unfolded as compared to being

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a guy who's gonna hit sixty every year.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
Yeah, because you're right, that forty eight home run was
followed by twenty three, but with two hundred less plate appearances.
But then even if you take a look at that
twenty twenty three, it was still twenty three home runs
but only eighty less plate appearances. So that twenty twenty
one season does look like a career year.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
Yeah, And I would rather just be I would rather
just be cautious in my approach as compared to putting
out numbers. Yeah, and you know what if he does
hit sixty again, congratulations, your projections will be will be
plus fifteen on the power. That's not going to hurt you, right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
I think that that makes sense. You know, I'm gonna
sal Perez interesting guy. I mean, he is thirty five now,
so it's probably thirty six season next year. Whateverb I
just be careful. I mean he has flat out never walked,
and it's not slowed down. I mean, he's always been

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able to work through that does make really good contact.
But that average average ex of velocity now has gotten
down to that ninety mile an hour zone, so it's
ninety miles an hour flat. So he is the longer.
That twenty twenty one season was ninety three mile an
hour acts of velocity. So you're starting to see the
natural kind of progression of a guy starting to get older,

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the bat speed slowing down a little bit, et cetera,
et cetera. So I wouldn't consider I'd be hard pressed
to consider sal Perez an elite, elite catcher anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
I agree all of them more shares of Carter Jensen
next year than I will sal Perez.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
Yeah, because I think South pre is still going to
go as a top five catcher. That works me a
little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
Yeah, I've the Royals got themselves a good one with Jensen.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
That was a great call. That was a great pool
by you. I love Carter Jensen.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
Yeah, and I think he's going to work his way
into the mix away. I think Perez is going to
do some daging and I think Perez will be a
good choice. But if I had to bet on a
number for Perez, I would go low twenties, eighty five
RBIs to twenty five to thirty batting average still top ten,

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but it's I think it's projecting forward. I think we
have to take exactly what you said into account. He's
thirty five years old, it'll be thirty six next spring.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
So I'm not sure if I've made my selection yet.
So because I wrote it down, I wrote it down
a while ago, so so in my mind I've already made.
But I know we've been talking, so I I think
I selected. So this is we're all pick six. So
Jay Rod went into Ky Riley. Yeah, then we got

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we got stuck on talking about Kyle Riley. Right, I'm
gonna go with a picture. I'm going Logan Gilbert. Too bad, Timmy,
you should have made that's taken like your bet. One
season later, it has turned out that Logan Gilbert is
the better picture. But Tim who won the bet?

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
I need a zero point zero button? Dammit, I need
please Rich give me a zero zero I know, yeah,
it's yeah, yeah, Logan Logan Gilbert, if he can stay healthy,
has potential to be a top five starter.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
I think he's relatively low risk too. I mean, so yeah,
he's been able to stay healthy.

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
He ates some problems with the forearm, I think early.
I mean he missed a couple of months this year,
so that I think that's good because probably is.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
Yeah, he's pitching deep until the playoffs. I mean he's
maybe he'll be a little bit fresher coming into next season.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
Right right, I like to pick. Okay, who does Tim
have to work with here? He's working with La de
la Rosa. I don't think we need speed. Uh yeah
that too? Oh yeah, no, I just I just read
the type in note. Sorry, I just read it. Yeah,

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it's dope. James would oh three for fun, James Wood Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
To young guys, Well.

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna go boring here, and I
want an elite picture, and I think I got I
think I've got one one in mine and Max Freed,
so I'll go Max Freed.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
Okay, that's good way, and I think it just let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
Oh no, you losen?

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
No, I uh just lost my sheet I was working
on here, so oh, I don't know what I did
with it. Oh crap, So now I lost where's my guys?
I was picking from.

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
Mark Amy's still available?

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
Okay, all right, so I'm actually flying blind here a
little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:15:14):
I'm sorry?

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
Did you pick again?

Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
Oh? I went? I went with Max Freed, Max Free?
I pick yeah, get a get a starting picture to
go with Dela Cruz and what James would I think
that works?

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
Yep? Yeah, see Tim Max Freed. So if I'm taking
a look at pick eight, was Francisco Lindor, followed by
Pete Alonzo's got a I got big boy power there.
I've got some speed with Francisco Lindor, so I could

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go with a speed guy. I could go with PCA
would actually be a pretty good pick there. I could
also go with an elite picture, which I think that
is what I'm going to do. Where did I? Oh?
This really stinks, Timmy.

Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
Well, I can give you some pictures that I have
If that helps.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
Let me let me uh old on just a second here, Yeah,
I h there they are there it is. I got
the hit control Z. I deleted it by accident. So
there's my list against it. So I'm going to go
am I gonna go Hunter Green, Max Fred or Jacob

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to Grom? What do you think got Jacob to Grom?
Coming into this season? It was really good?

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
He was really good. Yeah. I I've got one other
picture that that is intriguing. But who was this? Actually
there's a Logan web in that group. I got Spencer
Strider in that group and.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
Brian Christopher Sanchez very good.

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
I think there's a lot. Yeah, there's a lot of pictures.
I think that you could look at that all could
do the job, you know what I mean. It's yeah, yeah,
I think getting pictures.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
I have a soft spot for Hunter Green. I mean
the strikeouts, yeah, are great. But Christopher Sanchez, if we
just take a look at what he did, it was
just ridiculous. So you know, I yes, it was. That's
where I'm going to go to him. I'm going to
go Christopher Sanchez.

Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
I don't fault one min that's pick thirty eight. I
guess eh it is indeed, So yeah, no, that's a
great it's a great pick. I think a lot of
people are undervaluing Christopher Sanchez or they're not giving him
maybe the credit he deserves for this season. Yeah. The

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two hundred and twelve strikeouts is huge. His whip was
one oh sticks, he won thirteen games, posted a two
fifty years eight.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
Yeah. You take a look at the space Spaceball Savant profile.
It is all it's all red.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
All red. Yeah. Yeah, his his walk grate. He upped
his innings from one eighty one with forty four walks
to two oh two with the same forty four walks. Okay,
I think he he proved in twenty twenty five that
he's got to be discussed as a top ten starting

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pitcher in our game.

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
Yeah. I mean the date, the stat is stats are there,
but if you take a look at the date, it's
a really weird profile because this is a three pitch pitcher.
It's a sinker change slider. Slider's not very good. The
sinker and change up have the almost the same landing spot.
I mean, just really great. Ronald bothas, so those are

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both elite pitches, but he has nothing that goes north
to south. Everything is running east to west, and in fact,
everything is running in on left handed pitchers excuse me,
left handed batters. So it's a it's a strange profile,
but it all works because he's been great for the
last three seasons, three forty four years. He doesn't.

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
Yeah, he doesn't throw a fastball, does he.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
It's it's a sinker. It's the sinker is his fastball. Yeah,
but the sinker as opposed to induce vertical breaks. So
if you Patreon, you know what I'm talking about. Where
the ball is really going north to south, it's moving
in on hitters, so it's it's got huge break back
into hitters, or it goes away from a glove side batter,
which is a right handed batter. Right, So that's where

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you get that tremendous run. But that's what a change
up is supposed to do. But when you've got the
ability to tunnel that change up exactly the same spot
with the with the sinker, even though they're both doing
the same movement, it becomes nasty because one of them
is ten miles an hour slower than the other and
you just get these tremendous swing and missus, which is
what he what he has. His change up has a

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forty five percent with rate. I mean that's ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
Yeah, that's yeah. You ain't hitting that. It's as simple. Yeah,
it's as simple as that. And his hit rates dropped
considerably from twenty four to twenty five. You know, he
had a lot of one hundred and eighty two hits
and one hundred and eighty one and two thirds, and
twenty four dropped that down to one seventy one over
two hundred and two innings in twenty five. Now, the

(01:20:24):
only question I would have is twenty five going to
prove to be the Outlaiyer as far as his hit
rates concerned, Rich, do you have any thoughts?

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
All I can tell you ten y, I mean it could.
All I can tell you is is he's six foot six.
He has a stride of seven feet, which is elite,
which is what a guy who's six foot six should have.
He's got the physicality, he's got the great pitch and
the change up. He's got a fastball that is sinker's

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coming in at miles an hour. It's maxing out at
ninety eight miles an hour. Yeah, that's moving, I mean,
stuff wise. This guy's great. I mean, yeah, he's great.
He's an ace. I mean, this is this is what
aces look like. Even though the arsenal is probably not classic.
It's like, well, you really should have something that goes

(01:21:18):
north to south a little bit, but he just doesn't
have that. But it still works.

Speaker 3 (01:21:23):
So yeah, yeah, I was gonna say, as long as
it keeps on or working. Yeah, yeah, No, it's he's
had an impressive year. And again I don't think people
are giving him as much predud as they probably should.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
Is he a free agent? I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (01:21:39):
He's only twenty he's only twenty eight. Yeah he can't be.

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
Okay, Tim, you're on the clock.

Speaker 3 (01:21:45):
Okay, where are we up to here? Cormyn Carroll?

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
Nine? Where we're at Yeah nine, Cormyn Carroll went one.
Now it's getting complicated. I think it's Jamamota.

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
Yes it is. So we don't need a starting pitcher.
We've got power speed. Okay, let's just take a quick
look here. I'm gonna go with a guy if I
if I'm calling this right that I think still has
some upside. But being that I got the speed from Carol.

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I can probably work with Riley Green in the outfield.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
Good pick. Yeah, he had a lot of home runs
last I look, it was like thirty five.

Speaker 3 (01:22:37):
Uh, Riley Green, it was way up there in the RBI.
I totals, Yeah, thirty six and one hundred and eleven
rbisco with two fifty eight eighty four runs scored. The
OBP was down a bit. Is he didn't walk as much.
He was swinging a little bit more for the fences being.
His power did jump up rather considerably by twelve home

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runs twenty four to twenty. But I like Riley Green.
He's still young. He's only twenty five. I think there's
another thirty plus over one hundred and ten RBI season
coming up this year with a decent batting average two
fifty to sixty somewhere in that range. So uh, and

(01:23:20):
again we need we need five outfielders. It never hurts
to have one or two early, does it?

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
It doesn't in your good point, Let's take a quick
break and I we're got to pick up the pace
righty an hour and twenty five minute steps.

Speaker 3 (01:23:33):
So well, I thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
Here's my delimite. I am on the clock with pick
number ten. Ark Scuebel went with the number one pick,
followed by my second pick would be Vlad Junior. So
I've obviously got the best picture in baseball, and I've
got thirty home runs and a guy that can flat
out hit and on base percentage league even better. From

(01:24:06):
an opp this would seem to be a perfect operation.
And I need an outfielder, right, so I have no outfielders.
We know you need five of them. This feels like
the perfect opportunity to go to with Pete Crow Armstrong.

Speaker 3 (01:24:18):
But I'm yeah, I was. I was going to say, yeah,
it is, but there are chicken shit. Yeah, No, I
don't blame you because there's a couple of other players
out there that can that might have I think better
odds of having a better twenty six season.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
Yeah. Am I crazy to think Trevor's story might be
one of those guys?

Speaker 3 (01:24:44):
No, You're not crazy at all. If he stays healthy,
he proved what he can do.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
Twenty five home runs, thirty one stolen bases on a
great team, ninety one runs scored, ninety six RBIs. I
mean it seems crazy given how infrequently he has played,
He's still a great player. I'm gonna go Trevor's story.
I need an outfielder, but I'm scared about the PCA,
so I'm going Trevor's story.

Speaker 3 (01:25:08):
Pick number forty. Trevor's story. It's all about one thing
with trevor story, it's health. Yeah. No, I like the pick.
All right, Okay, who are we looking at here? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
Tatist Jr. And Ronald Acuna. I like that. I like that.

Speaker 3 (01:25:34):
Well, you know what, I there are some starting pitchers
available that I sort of like. But I'm going to
bet that they fall to around four one of the
guys I've got, and I'm going with the first closer
off the board. Wow, and Edwin Diaz.

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
First closer makes it to the end of the third round.

Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
So and then I think in the next round that's
when they go and I'll be able to take the
starting picture I want. That's what I'm betting.

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
So you get the best closer, well who you can
see if the best closer in the game, I'm assuming
so he goes above Josh Hater and Will vest right, so.

Speaker 3 (01:26:20):
Just marginally over best I've got. I got four closers today,
Like my top four right now is Diez Munos hater
and Duran.

Speaker 2 (01:26:31):
I think that's good. Duran'sman was really good, by the way. Yeah,
does Will Vest remind you of Jason Foley? Remember him?

Speaker 3 (01:26:39):
Jason Foley? I try to forget, but no, I'm hoping
he doesn't remind us of Jason Foley. And just for
those who believe in funds all the information on Will,
I'm keeping close to the best. Sorry, that's okay. I
couldn't lose, I couldn't resist.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
Okay. Yeah, I never know when the draft closer, so
let's stick with everybody. Stick with what Tim is doing
because he's better at that part of the game than
I am. I just don't know. Look, i've my next pick.
I'm on the clock at twelve was Kyle Schwarber and
and Jess Chisholm like a huge power. I've got speed powers.

(01:27:26):
I probably should go with a with a with a
picture here and I I think I am. Did they
Jacob de Grm go off the board? I'm gonna go
Jacob de Gram here?

Speaker 3 (01:27:35):
No, No, Jake de Gram is sitting there with your
name written all over it. Rich Jacob.

Speaker 2 (01:27:42):
Yeah, I like this looking at what we've picked before,
that's a good idea.

Speaker 3 (01:27:48):
M yeah. Well it allows for not only the good
players going off the board, but trying, in some semblance,
to the team right, because sometimes the best players you
could end up with three first basement right on your team. Yeah,
just hitting it. And that doesn't make a lot of sense,

(01:28:09):
does it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
I totally agree with you, right, Timmy, you're on the clock.

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
Hey, okay, what do we got Gunner Henderson, Garrett Crochet.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
Oh that's good. That's a good start.

Speaker 3 (01:28:20):
That it is a good start. Let's see if I
can and you and I am. I am going with
a five category player who has the last time he
failed to go twenty twenty was probably five years ago now,
and at number forty three, I'm going with Randy Rose Arena.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
Good good pick there.

Speaker 3 (01:28:44):
Well, it should go good with Gunner and and I've
got the picture in Crochet and in the fourth round
I would come back with another picture, probably a flowser
if there's one, if there's one there.

Speaker 2 (01:28:56):
Okay, now it's getting interesting. Boy, Kyle Tucker for that
kind what a steal getting Kyle Tucker.

Speaker 3 (01:29:06):
You get the best team rich.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
Kyle Tucker and not Nick Kurtz and uh junior junior
Kyle Tucker and junior.

Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
Junior Gamin Arrow. That's a nice That's a nice pair,
ain't it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
Wow, that's really good. And who's who's the last pick?
Would be Skians and Cheery. Wow that's good too.

Speaker 3 (01:29:32):
Tom Yeah wow, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:29:38):
So I'm looking at Kyle Tucker. Is gonna give me
twenty five to thirty home runs? Junior Cameron Arras. Is
it one of those guys even though he's only done
it for one season, that you could pencil in forty
for next season?

Speaker 3 (01:29:52):
Ah, I'm working with thirty to thirty five, but forty on, Yeah,
forty is not out of the realm of buzz ability.

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
I'm looking at sixty five home runs. I'm looking at
a decent batting average between the two. If it's on
base percentage like, it's not great. Becaust junior Camerera never walks.
I mean it should go with a picture here.

Speaker 3 (01:30:12):
But I would think so because by the time it
gets back to you.

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
No, no, I'm on the on the No, I'm yeah.
My fourth pick is right around the corner.

Speaker 3 (01:30:23):
Oh sorry, it's right around the corner.

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:30:25):
You could, you could, you could, you could wave, you
could weave on pitching. Yeah, and take if take take
what's left. If you wanted you build a heck, well
you're gonna get anyways because people are gonna take pitching.

Speaker 2 (01:30:42):
Let's let's let's talk about this. So I'm still on
my board. I still have your Dann Alvarez. Yeah he
hasn't he hasn't been taken right. Uh No, I still
have Manny Machado. I still have Mookie Bats, I have
Hunter Green.

Speaker 3 (01:31:01):
H yes, you do.

Speaker 2 (01:31:02):
I've got Bryce Trenge is still sitting out there.

Speaker 3 (01:31:05):
Mmm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
But if if this is my shot to take the
guy with the biggest upside, Roman Anthony, what if I
went Romani? Is that too early because he's not coming
back to me? Right, I have to take a picture
either here or at at the next pick, right, I
can't get out of the I can't wait till the sixth,

(01:31:28):
the end of the fifth round to get my first picture.
That's going to be tough. So yeah, it's so if
I take one, right.

Speaker 3 (01:31:39):
You got to take a picture coming back. You have to.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
But if I want Roman Anthony on my team, I
have to take him here because he's not coming back
to me on five.

Speaker 3 (01:31:48):
I can guarantee you he is not coming back to
you with your next.

Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
Pick, right, I mean Stam's going to take him, so
that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:31:56):
Yeah, So because I've got I've got Paul Skan, so
I got my pay so yeah, and I got Jackson Curio.
So yeah, I'm so my strategy on my list.

Speaker 2 (01:32:07):
Yeah, even though I'm looking at Tim's que at the moment,
my thinking here is why go Roman Anthony before I
would go A Pictures because Tim's got Paul Skeans. So
the likelihood of Tim taking another starting picture is pretty
low on the on the turn, particularly since he's because
he's he's took Paul Skeens with his first pick, so
he's got to really come with some some bats, so

(01:32:31):
he might take he might take Roman Anthony. So I'm
gonna go Roman Anthony here. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:32:39):
I I think it's a great pick. Yeah, I he
wasn't coming back.

Speaker 2 (01:32:44):
He yeah, I there's no way even if even if
you didn't take.

Speaker 3 (01:32:47):
It there, Yeah, as much told you that, right.

Speaker 2 (01:32:54):
Right, but even if even if we weren't talking again,
it's one of my I'm picking in the third round,
so I pick early in the fourth round, but late
in the fifth round. He's not coming back in the
fifth round, so if you want roam On Anthony, you
gotta this is the place to take us. You got
to think I'm going to take him or I'm not.
And PCA is also not going to come back around too,

(01:33:17):
So that was another guy. I'm thinking, do I take
the risk there with PCA, which yeah, I mean could
be a good pick there too. But so I'm gonna
go roam On Anthony and hope that the huge power
shows up, and I would think it would, so yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:33:33):
And you know what's fascinating with this process that we're
going through is if you're drafting in a redraft league
on a sixty second clock, which is pretty well the standard.
Everything we spent the past fifteen minutes discussing boils down
to sixty seconds. And that's why I like fast drafts.

Speaker 2 (01:33:51):
I really do, Timmy, You're on the clock, last last pick.

Speaker 3 (01:33:56):
Yeah, I got, I got, I got lots of interesting
options here. But I think what I'm going to do,
Oh ah, I'm dealing with Churio and Schemes.

Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
That's you gotta get a bat. You gotta get a
big bat there.

Speaker 3 (01:34:22):
Uh yeah, one one battle and one starting pitcher to
pair with Schemes would be rather nice wouldn't that I'm
gonna go with I'm gonna go with C. J. Abrams.

Speaker 2 (01:34:43):
Interesting. So when when is jor Dane Alvarez going.

Speaker 3 (01:34:50):
Next round?

Speaker 2 (01:34:54):
That could be a great pick for somebody.

Speaker 3 (01:34:56):
It's it's gonna be one of those picks that either
you're going to be incredibly happy or you're gonna kiss
your season goodbye because you're going to count on You're
gonna count on Alvarez for thirty plus homers, one hundred
RBIs and believe you me I had them this year.

(01:35:16):
When you don't get the thirty home runs and the
one hundred RBIs your second wind all season and you
are it's a problem when you're doing that a player
like that, when you're looking at picking them up at
the back end of the first round, early second, and
it'll kill your season. It won't do as much damage

(01:35:37):
when you're looking at back of the third sometime in
the fourth, you know you've already established a core of
two to three players. But again, I just don't there's
too much risk. There's too much risk there for me,
there really is, and we've talked about it for years.
I shouldn't have I shouldn't have taken him this year.

(01:36:00):
I really shouldn't. Yeah, leagues, I was I was betting.
I was betting. I was betting on something where if
it didn't happen, I would put myself into serious trouble.
And that's just a bit too much risk.

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
Yeah, nobody's a bigger fan of Jordan Everest coming up
than I did him every Dynasty League. I hadmial zero
Dynasty Leagues. At the moment, I just decided to sell
high on him and uh, you know, just just move on.
The same thing with Jacob de crom I sold high
on him too, and that worked out well because he
got hurt and he's still a great pitcher. But I mean,
at some point you just got to move on from

(01:36:34):
these guys. And I think, but still he's a good player,
And if you get them late enough, then the thirty
home runs, if you've already got at that juncture eighty book,
then all of a sudden, it's it's not so worrisome
if he doesn't do thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:36:48):
Yeah, you can. You can find guys on the waiver
wire that'll lad twenty home runs, okay, and you still
have that core built into your team from the first
three picks. So you got Pete Alonzo. Okay, yeah, yeah,
you can afford to take a chance on you. R.
Dan Alvarez, Okay, if you got two speedsters, Okay, not

(01:37:10):
so much, you know, CJ. Abrams, I just wanted to
mention quickly. Nineteen home runs the past three years eighteen
twenty nineteen, stolen bases forty seven, thirty one, thirty one.
The obp's only three fifteen two fifty seven average, but
ninety plus runs scored. I like CJ. Abrams. Okay, Yeah,

(01:37:30):
he made a mistake with the curfew thing. I think
he paid dependance and I don't think we'll see a
repeat that.

Speaker 2 (01:37:37):
I'm pretty excited about this draft. We just did the
first three rounds because I'm looking at I mean, look,
PCA is still a great fantasy player. He's still on
the board. Your Dan Alvarez for everything that Tim went through,
still a great player is out there. Hunter Goodman thirty
one home runs last season. You he knew swore As
forty nine home runs. Still on the board. Bryce de Rang,

(01:37:59):
We showed incredible love for him. He's still on the board.
Christian Yell, It's still on the board. I mean, there's
really good players sitting here. In the fourth and fifth round,
and you know that there's going to be a run
on pitchers and closers in that fourth and fifth round.

Speaker 3 (01:38:14):
Yeah, it's it's fascinating to take a look at an
early draft and like you look at the guy who
likes Suarez. Okay, I like Sz a lot. But you
know what you want with Surez is you want to
pair him up with a Wan Soto or a Lindo
or somebody with a good batting average. You don't want

(01:38:35):
to you don't want to pair sware Is up with
Kyle Schwarber. Right, Yeah, so I think I think Swarrez
is a fine pick. But again, there there's limitations. Same
with Pete Crow Armstrong. There's limitations there. There's flaws in
both those games, okay, and you can only you gotta

(01:39:02):
push some of them down because of those laws.

Speaker 2 (01:39:04):
I believe, I agree with you.

Speaker 3 (01:39:05):
Yeah, yeah, it is fascinating though, when you start looking
at the way the way the teams are shaping up, Timmy.

Speaker 2 (01:39:14):
That's rap. Let's take our final break it back and
find out what Tim's dound for dinner and figure out
what we're gonna do next week. Bring your prospect observers,
you saw the Cincinnati Reds and one of my favorite
systems in all of baseball, the Milwaukee Brewers, dropped this

(01:39:36):
past week. Next week we have a great another great
system with the Pittsburgh Pirates, and then a surprisingly strong
system with the Saint Louis Cardinals, and then the following week, Timmy,
you and I do a podcast where we talk about
the National League Central. So that's what we got playing
coming up. From the prospects standpoint, that'll be a lot

(01:39:56):
of fun.

Speaker 3 (01:39:58):
Yeah, GJ. Weather Holds a hea make you top ten
with the Cards.

Speaker 2 (01:40:03):
JJ weatherhold was number one obviously in cars. I think
he's number five or three in all of baseball.

Speaker 3 (01:40:10):
So yeah, I was just being I was just mad
at I'm still chick they didn't bring them up.

Speaker 2 (01:40:18):
Yeah yeah, Cardinals, Yeah yeah, but yeah, I mean, I
just love hate. Jesus in my day is just going
to be a superstar, and Connor Griffin is going to
be a superstar. There's some really really good young players
that just don't follow the mold of what we've seen

(01:40:40):
over the last few years. With some of these older
type of players that have spent some time in the
big list. Sometime in the minor leagues. These are guys
that are teenagers still and are flying through.

Speaker 3 (01:40:52):
How old's Walcott isn't he a triple A now?

Speaker 2 (01:40:54):
Or Walcott's nineteen he's at he's a triple A. So
by the way, got a got a note from a
Pittsburgh Pirate somebody in their front office saying that Seth Henderson,
who I'll talk about on Tuesday, is in the Dominican's
Winter League or not. The Winter League got start off

(01:41:16):
so training to the Dominican throwing one hundred miles an hour.
So so yes, the Pittsburgh Pirates yet with another guy
that throws heavy, heavy heat. So pretty exciting when you
think about what the Pittsburgh Pirates are putting together. I
don't know if they'll ever get to the top, Timmy,
but they got some good players.

Speaker 3 (01:41:36):
Yeah, Walcott's still nineteen, he's only a double A. Yeah. Yeah,
he'll start the season at dribble A probably.

Speaker 2 (01:41:44):
Same age, same classes. Ethan Sallas came up and Walcott's
passed him, man because he's in Salas just got rushed
and I got hurt and yeah struggled, Timmy. That was
a great show, hope everybody he enjoyed it. What's for dinner?

Speaker 3 (01:42:02):
What's for dinner? Well, it's uh, it looks like it's
uh turkey and ham, because uh, this is our Thanksgiving weekend.
So happy Thanksgiving to all, Yeah to all our Canadian listeners.
And the reason I said I thank you for going
long is because, yeah, it's not that I don't want overbone.

(01:42:24):
But you know, my Georgie's family is great, but I've
rather talk baseball. To be honest with you, I kill
another half hours.

Speaker 2 (01:42:34):
So so when was the big meal? Was it? Is
it today?

Speaker 3 (01:42:38):
It's today?

Speaker 2 (01:42:40):
Oh my gosh, I don't feel guilty.

Speaker 3 (01:42:43):
Why I don't know. Sorry, I've already got I've already
got a serious migraine coming on for around seven o'clock Central. Okay,
has nothing to do with the Jay's playing.

Speaker 2 (01:42:54):
But we all, we all, we all have in law
as my friend, we all, we all stand anything more.
Uh So, so like turkey, turkey and ham both.

Speaker 3 (01:43:06):
Wow, Turkey and ham and all of fixing. There'll be
some Brogi's in there and yeah I gotta have that
with a holiday and some dress and all all all
the good stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:43:19):
Awesome. We had brunch today with the family, so big
meal at lunchtime, so probably just just nibbling away on
just whatever's in the refrigerator, which isn't a lot because
this is our last week here, so we don't have
a lot in the refrigerators. So I don't know what
we're gonna do. So we have to figure that out.

Speaker 3 (01:43:35):
So you can go to that rest or, that restaurant
downstairs that you like so much, Well.

Speaker 2 (01:43:41):
There's many of them downstairs. If we go to Roots,
that's a lot of food. So that's a big steakhouse
that's the one down there, and a pizza joints in
our and our building as well, so those are two
of our go to so and it might be rain already,
so I'm not sure what we're gonna do.

Speaker 3 (01:43:58):
So well, like you said, the fridge is getting gotta
have it cleaned out in a few days, so I'm
sure you'll find something.

Speaker 2 (01:44:06):
I got my annual blood work too on Wednesday, so
I don't wanna, don't want to over indulge too much,
and my blood work comes back there's a there's a
chicken leg floating around in here, will, so what's going on.

Speaker 3 (01:44:20):
Yeah, it's funny because I do the same thing when
I know I got blood work coming up. I don't
eat no sugar, okay, no chocolate, no junk food for
about four days before get the blood work done. Everything's good.

Speaker 2 (01:44:32):
Everything way home from the from the, from the from
the you're eating junk food on the way home. Man,
we all do it.

Speaker 3 (01:44:39):
So I got a chocolate bar in each hand. Yep,
but here we go, there we.

Speaker 2 (01:44:43):
Go, Timmy good stuff, my friend. We will see you
next Sunday. Everybody, have a good week and enjoy the games.

Speaker 3 (01:44:50):
Be safe, be well, and go Jays and brewers

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