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November 23, 2025 119 mins
Segment 1 – News and Notes
1.We had our first significant trade of the season as the Orioles traded Grayson Rodriguez to the Angels for Taylor Ward.
a.Both teams are starved for pitching, and while G-Rod has never been healthy, he has good stuff with four years of team control. Taylor Ward becomes a free agent after this season.
b.Unless the Orioles haven’t told us that G-Rod’s arm will fall off at some point next season, it’s hard not to like this for the Angels. I will say, the Angels did not do a physical. I’m thinking that was part of the deal – you’re buying low, so no give-backzy.
2.Raisel Iglesias signed back with the Braves. He had stretch where he was awful and lost his job. Is he the closer going into camp? Is he somebody you’re comfortable drafting as a closer?
3.Non-tendered players – Surprised, any worries they will sign somewhere?
a.Adolis Garica (OF, Tex)
i.Who gets his playing time?
b.Nathaniel Lowe (1B, Bos)
c.Christopher Morel (DH, TB)
d.Alek Manoah (Atl, RHP)

4.Kazuma Okamoto was posted. What do we know about him?


Segment 2 – Fantasy Questions of the NL East – Marlins, Mets, Phillies, and Nats
Miami Marlins
1.Jakob Marsee – Let’s hear it.
a.AB, HR, SB, and BA – 12 HR, 35 SB, .270
2.I know you’ve been a big fan of Connor Norby in the past. In a bit over a half-season, he went 8-8, making him a 15-15 player with a .250ish batting average. That’s not an awful player, but he’s been drafted as one. His ADP is 387, and he’s the 30th third baseman off the board.
a.What are your thoughts on Noby this season? Are you interested?
3.Kyle Stowers had his breakout last season, posting a .288 batting average with 25 home runs in only 117 games. He’s going as the 28th outfielder off the board.
a.Would you feel good about him being your #2 outfielder?
4.Sandy Alcantara was terrible last season, and now he’s the 66th pitcher off the board (50th starter). I think I recall you saying you wanted him to pitch poorly last year, so he would drop in 2026. Has he dropped enough for you to be interested?
5.When Ryan Weather has played, he’s been ok. Unfortunately, he seems always to be hurt. He’s the 120th pitcher off the board (call it 85 to 90th starter) – your 6th starter. Is that someone who interests you at the moment, or is it a pass?
6.Give me a sleeper in the organization (minor or majors)

New York Mets
1.The Mets appear to be moving on from Pete Alonso so they can move Vientos to first and Baty to third. Do you like this move or do you believe the Mets will keep Alonso?
a.Baty’s ADP is 259 and Vientos is 256. Who would you rather have?
2.Francisco Alvarez started to show signs of being an impact player, slugging 11 home runs in 76 games. He’ll just be 24 next season. Over/Under 20 home runs?
3.Will Jeff McNeil be the full-time second baseman for the Mets in 2026? He’s on the last year of his contract?
4.Kodai Senga posted decent numbers in 2025, posting a 3.02 ERA with 109 strikeouts and 55 walks. However, he spent time in the minor leagues and continues to struggle throwing strikes?
a.Stat line for 2026: wins, ERA, and K’s
b.There’s been rumors that the Mets will trade him this winter? What say you?
5.Who will be the Mets closer in 2026?
6.Give me a sleeper in the organization (minor or majors)

Philadelphia Phillies
1.The Phillies could lose several players to free agency, including Kyle Schwarber and JT Realmuto. Do they resign these guys or try to get younger?
a.I guess the problem is, are there minor league players that can step in or do they need to dip into free agency?
2.Related to #1, the Phillies team still has Harper, Turner, and Cristopher Sanchez, but overall, the team doesn’t look great. Dumbroski always finds a way, but is this a playoff contender for 2026?
3.Andrew Painter – 2026 stats – IP, ERA, K’s
4.Zach Wheeler is expected to be back by the end of May. Before the injury, he was one of the best pitchers in baseball, but he had TOS surgery, which doesn’t have a great track record for pitchers. He’s the 52nd pitcher off the board, or the 39th starting pitcher off the board. Do you feel comfortable with Wheeler being a stronger #3 starter on your team? He was a top 5 pitcher selected in 2025.
5.Give me a sleeper in the organization (minor or majors)
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Transcript

Episode Transcript

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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Green Socit. Jason's Everyone to Trich Wilson walking to Fantasy
Baseball Live. Today is November twenty third, about three twenty
in the afternoon. We're a little late because I got
a new laptop and Tim and I had a little
trouble getting everything to work, and Timmy, I finally figured
out which dial to turn on correctly, and I got
your Dulca tones finally in my ears.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Well, you know what, the one thing we did in
check rich, which I think is of paramount importance, okay,
is the zero point zero button. So I'm going to
give you your opportunity. Japan is going to win the
WBC next spring, hands down, not even closed zero.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
It was funny when when I got the new laptop,
most of the stuff automatically comes over because it's all
in the cloud and only takes maybe a half hour
forty five minutes literally for all to suck in. But
the one thing that doesn't come over or all the
spreaker stuff, all the stuff for the podcast. So so
the first when I brought up the new Spreaker cons

(01:19):
I'm like, oh no, the zero point zero is not there,
And that's like I might as well not do the
show if I don't have the zero point zero well, yeah,
so then I had to hunt it down on my
old my old laptop to find it. And then I said, okay,
let me organize it a little bit better, so I
ever have to move computers again. I've got all my
clips and sound effects all in one area, but the

(01:40):
zero point zero is at the top of the list
to me, so it is there.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah. No, I understand what you're saying though about like
transferring things over. I put mine on the McLoud. It
works just fine.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Okay, so you can give me a chance to use
the rim shot as well.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Go there we go.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yeah, how's your week? Ben? My friend?

Speaker 2 (02:00):
A bit of a bit of a cold at the
beginning of the week. It just yeah, feeling a little sluggish,
But got back into the grind and I've been ranking
and filing and writing and I've got a podcast coming
up this week with.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Rotal wire Sheet on me again, you bastard.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, I know. Once a year they he doesn't have
Art Andersen, doesn't have a zero point zero buck. He
wants to be on the talks post some of the
players coming back in Japanese players. So once a year
I go on his podcast, So I'm going to be
doing that this week. So yeah, it is sort of cool.
You know, give me a chance to you know, go
over all of the players coming over and some of

(02:44):
the ones that could be returning. Yeah, it should be
a lot of fun. So hey, between the ranking and
our podcasts and everything, I'm keeping busy. It's good. I'm happy.
Life is good.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
I had a shitty week to excuse my.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Foot, that's okay, I understand.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
So on Monday, I woke up Monday, I'm going something
in my mouth doesn't feel right. I got my tooth
started hurting, so I need to watch that right. So
then on Tuesday I woke up and I'm like, it's
really starting hurt. I better call the dentist. Called the dentists,
and they said, what's your pain threshold. I'm like, it's
like a four or five out of ten? Not too bad.

(03:25):
It's a Tuesday afternoon. So Wednesday night, about one o'clock
in the morning, Tim, I woke up and literally my
mouth was on fire. Tiland all wasn't working, biting all
the nail wasn't working. I had never experienced pain like
that in my life. It was unbelievable. It's like I
grazed my tongue over the tooth and it was just

(03:47):
like shooting pain in my mouth. I'm like, this is good.
So I'm literally watching the clock until it hit eight
o'clock when the dentist was opened. I'm like, hey, one,
the pain threshold went from four five to twelve. I
got to see somebody immediately, So, yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
The whiskey and biting on a bullet is not working anymore.
You're beyond that stage, right.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
It was. The pain was unbelievable. So they saw me
at nine o'clock. I go in and they they look.
I say, nothing looks obvious on the on the on
the X ray, so that means it's probably a root problem.
So we need to send you to an end to dantis.
The good news is we've called around. We work with
somebody in Myrtle Beach about a forty minute drive and

(04:32):
they're gonna they're gonna see you in two hours. I'm
like great, drove down to Myrtle Beach. Guy looks at
it and goes, yeah, you need a root canal. I'm
like great. So but he says, the first thing we
need to do is get is get the infection out
of there. So he gave me a course of a moxicilan,
which has been around since the Stone Ages, and tell

(04:53):
me a week from tuesday, I get the root canal.
But I have no pain right now at the moment,
which is great. So I'm feeling good. So the mocks
of selling's doing this thing. But guys, tim, I don't
know if you've ever had like a toothache, man, it
can blow up in a hurry.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
I have had toothache upon toothache. My doctor finally said
he got tired of giving me penicillin okay for the infection.
He finally got tired of it. He said, fix the thing. Okay,
your teeth, your TV. Your teeth are no good. You
know you're at the stage where tell your dentists okay
to invest in a settle players and fix a problem.
And he did and the problems done. So I always

(05:35):
had bad teeth. I broke a couple playing uh hockey,
just playing foot no actually football really. I did a
fa face plant on a sidewalk. I was about thirteen
years old and busted busted four of them. The front
two were capped from from a very young age, and

(05:55):
my teeth were you know, Hey, I did everything I
was supposed to do. They just didn't operates. So, yeah,
I understand your pain. I understand root canals. Uh yeah,
it's it's horrible stuff. It really is. I feel for
anybody with because it it just totally destroys any semblance

(06:16):
of normality, that constant pain.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
It's it's horrible, it's unbelievable, and it's nothing can stop.
As funny I was, we went out to dinner on
Wednesday night when the tooth really started to bother me.
You know. So we were chatting with the people at
the dinner and they go, you look a little distracted.
I go, I got a tooth problem going on. And
the husband goes, yeah, I got all kinds of bad teeth.
And the woman, you know, his wife, my age, she was,

(06:40):
I've had one cavity in my life. One. I'm like,
how is that possible? Just had one cavity. My son
in law has never had a cavity, he's thirty two.
I guess what, I guess some people just have really
good teeth and others like me, just have average, if
not below average teeth.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Well, yeah, I got to the stage where I was
looking at a serious original okay, addiction, that's not good.
It really isn't. No, no, Yeah, I ran into a guy.
There's an older gentleman I used to see on a
fairly regular basis when I was selling chips, and he
was like, at the time, seventy three years old and

(07:21):
had to see a dentist in forty five years and
his teeth were just like perfect. And I used to
start most of our conversations off when I got to
dental where like, I hate you, Okay, that's yeah, just
some people are blessed and some people are cursed, and
I was in the curse file.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
I totally agree with you. But all good Timmy and
I for those of you who got my we're talking
about it right off the bat our patron members who
got the trade of the first trade of the season,
I guess the Reagan Rodriguez for the Angels. It was
a little under duress. I wasn't feeling the greatest, but
I took one for the team and got it out.

(08:02):
So let's shall we talk about that one.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah, that seems like a good place to just start
our podcast.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
I think it's it's to me, it's one of the
more fascinating trades that we've seen in a long time.
Here's two teams, arguably or not arguably. I mean, they're
in desperate need of pitching, and the Orioles need pitching.
The Angels probably need more desperate for pitching than the
Orioles are in the which is hard to believe that

(08:33):
the Angels decide to move taylor Ward. They've got some
maybe a little excess capacity there on the outfield, Taylor
Ward in his walk year, and they move them for
Grace and Rodriguez with four years of team control left
a great arm, has never been able to stay healthy,
hasn't pitched. A lot of people don't remember this hasn't
pitched since July of twenty twenty four with shoulder, elbow,

(08:56):
and lat problems. Now, Grace Rodriguez did admit to having
a elbow prompt since the beginning of the year. Wasn't
a UCL breakage, but it was basically loose bodies or
bone spurs in his out But he finally got that
taken care of. But Timmy on the surface, for teams

(09:17):
that are desperate for pitching, I can't get my head
around why this isn't a huge win for the Angels.
What say you.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah, I think it has the potential to be a
huge win. But again, there's also incredible risk. As you mentioned,
we haven't seen Grace and Rodriguez pitch competitively for what
a year and a half almost, and the list of injuries,
you know, we could talk about them for the next month. Okay,

(09:51):
the Angels are taking the risk, but obviously they felt
that with Taylor Ward one year, you know, one year
heading into free agency, it was worth taking the risk.
On the other hand, the Orioles said they've had enough
and they don't want that risk. And hey, they got
all they got all the charts, Okay, they've got all
the medical information. Uh. For me, I I think it's

(10:14):
a case of, you know, the Angels saying we're gonna
toss the dark and Novie hits the board and the
Ool saying we've we've had enough and we're gonna move on.
The thing that when I look at it, though, and
I look at the Orioles end of the deal, Okay,
I started listing some players, okay, and maybe you can

(10:38):
give me your thoughts. But Taylor Ward, Dylan Beavers, Colton Kowser,
Tyler O'Neill, Sam Bassallo, Henriki Bradfield, Heston Kerstaed and Leovi
di Tavares. Do you think they have enough outfielders? Rich?
I got, I got, I got like eight of them here. Okay,
isn't three the magic number?

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah? I think so, as I wrote to our Patreon
members for I don't think Sambasaia is going to be
in the outfield, but I mean it's still a fine point.
They got a ton of depth there.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
I would have whatever he's gonna plug it up.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
I would assume Tyler O'Neill is going to be in
the outfit. He's the other guy that they're paying money too.
So it's O'Neill and Ward as two thirds of your outfield.
They need a center fielder, and Colton Cowser is the
most experienced and the best of the group that you
just mentioned, and he's looked good when he has played.
He's not a great center fielder, but that's probably what

(11:36):
they got. Have they lost confidence and cursed dead and
and all the other guys that you talked about, And
I think maybe the answer.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Is yes, well yeah, but Dylan Bieber is that one.
I can't you know?

Speaker 1 (11:49):
That's well, Dylan Biebers cannot hit left handed, pitching. So
I mean I think that I think they were looking
at up latoon guy there.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, and elm Vasselo in the DH slot. Is his
potential playing time threatened because of Yeah, I named Ryan Mountcastle.
Let's throw him into the mix, okay, because they re
upped with him.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Don't you think that they've got other moves. I think
this is setting them up. I would not be surprised
that they move Colton Cowser or somebody like that to
try to bring in some pitching, because Bradfield is the
guy that you won in center field. That's the guy
long term you won in centerfield. As long as you've
got two boppers in the corners, which I think Ward

(12:37):
and O'Neill are, I think that would be considered two
boppers twenty five home run pops. I think you can
get by within Ariki Bradfield, who's gonna run everything down
in the outfield. I mean, he's a seventy defender out there.
But I think they're going to move some of these guys.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Well, I think they have to. Yeah, you've got I've
got eight players listed for four slots basically, and I
didn't even listen. I didn't even list Mountcastle. So there's
nine for four slots. Yeah, there's something. Something's going to
have to give. There has to be another part to
this plan that we don't know of yet, and who

(13:16):
knows what they what That may be. The only thing
that I get into this whole situation is the fact
that the Orioles have had enough and the Angels are
willing to toss a dirt.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
I thought, what was fascinating and this was this was
reported afterwards, and I found this to be really really cool,
cool and interesting. At the same point the Orioles, I said, basically,
you get them as is, you don't get a chance
to look at the medicals. So that was the risk, right.
So everybody's wondering why did the why did the Orioles

(13:46):
get so little back of one guy on an expiring contract?
Is because it was you take them as is, no
give backsies on it. And that's yeah, yeah, pretty interesting. Right.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
So well, hey, let's face it, the Orioles obviously know
that arm inside and out and back and forth, and they,
you know, to complete that deal. Hey, they're saying, as is,
no safety on this one as is, and it's yours

(14:21):
and go from there. And it's different It's not something
you see on a regular basis, But when you're looking
at a player with the upside potential of Grayson Rodriguez
if he's ever healthy, it sort of makes sense the
way they handled it, doesn't it.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
It does now what I did write to a patron
members said, even even let's say that that Grace Rodriguez
needs Tommy John surgery, you still have it for four years.
So maybe he loses a year, two year and a
half of time, but is always obviously a risk. You
still have them for two and a half more years
after that. So I, to me, I thought it was
a great deal for the Angels. I think it was

(14:59):
something that they had to do. At least the Orioles
have Bradshaw and a Nut Bratshaw. All the guys here,
do they have to be the Nut Bratshaw, the otfielders. No, No,
the pitchers. They've got Trevor Rodgers and Braditch coming back.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah they got they got Yeah, they got Rogers, Bruce
and then they get Dean Kramer, Tyler Wells and Kate
Polvich right now penciled in.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
So they got at least two decent starters, and Rogers
might be a really good started. I love British so
so that you know that they've got a good core,
but they didn't need way to begin with. So it's
a very curious thing. And I believe in the end
they're going to make some more moves.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
I would. I would think so, because there are some
teams that need otfielders badly, okay, and they appear to
have a glove right now. The only thing I did find,
you know, when you start looking through the Baltimore system
and looking at starting pitching, they don't they don't have
much really exciting until you get down into double A.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
I would not say that, well, maybe that they've got
some really interesting effect. The Oriole system comes out this week,
I believe, or yeah, I think it does this week,
and it's yeah, they've got they've got some good arms
that are sitting in Double A that are going to
be ready by the end of this twenty twenty six,
maybe twenty twenty seven. So they finally got some guys

(16:26):
that can bring bring stuff. So I kind of like
what they're doing there, but they're not ready today.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
No, I'm just looking at you know, some of the
you know, mc Dermot's twenty seven going on twenty eight
about it.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Look, yeah, Lewis Louise de Leon had a great fall
season as well. It's he's interesting. Trey Gibson, very interesting guy.
I think it's sitting there Esteban Mahi, I think is
somebody who's got a great arm. So they've got some
guys that can bring it. Even drawn Watts Brown that
they got the Blue Jays, I believe at the trade deadline,

(17:04):
and so that's another go. Those were all my top
two hundred prospects for me.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
So yeah, you look at you look at Hi AIA
and Double A and yeah, but right now being ready
at triple A, there's not much. I thought, I agree
with your assessment. It's you know, twenty twenty seven. We'll
see some nice arms coming through the system, making it
through to Baltimore, I think.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
So I wrote up my notes our patron members, and
then as I was done that, I don't know if
you have a chance to read that. I said at
the end, I said, I had a conversation with my
AI assistant to get his take, and I said, not
a ton of insight. I said, it's not a ton
of insight. Insight, but the best line he had was
at the very end. He said, it's a classic cell

(17:51):
low on a high upside arm for the Angels. This
is this is savage Tommy for the Angels. It's a
rare moment of tunist opportunistic clarity. I thought that was
that was brilliant.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Pretty fancy words happen there. And I tell you, I
give I give him a raise.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
When I read that, I just laughed out loud. I'm like,
he is absolutely right, here's the Angels. Because I write
about in the articles, he picks up on that and
looks at a lot of other stuff. The Angels haven't
done anything right since they signed Michael Trout. I mean
they just I guess shoey o tani to signing those
but they just they bumbling their way through everything. And

(18:34):
finally you look at it and go, this is a
good idea. I like this idea. It might not work,
but it's a good idea.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah, and it stands out.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
It really does. So that that was the big trade.
Hopefully there'll be more. We've got the Winter Meetings coming
up in two weeks, two weeks from the day tomorrow,
which will be exciting, and uh, there'll be more of that.
There's been some activity to me, we also had racing
on glecias Is signing back with the Braves. Now, last

(19:07):
season was really up and down. He had a point.
I don't know if he lost his job or I
know he was unrosterable from a fantasy standpoint for a while.
But has he got the closer going into camp? Closer
kid going into camp? Is he somebody you're comfortable drafting
as a closer? What say you?

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Well? As of June fifth last year, okay, his ERA
was six seventy five and he basically lost a job. Okay.
At the end of the year, his ERA was three
twenty one, his whip was one. He had twenty nine
saves with seventy three k's and sixty seven to third
and his last forty five appearances last year, I went

(19:48):
through it counted them. He allowed her and runs in
only three of those forty five appearances. So whatever ailed
him in April and May and he got off to
a horrible start, he corrected by June and his era
just plummeted over the rest of the season. I'd have

(20:09):
to for his ERI to drop like that. I would
guess that his ERA over the last four months of
the season was somewhere around one and a half if that.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yeah, probably so that he Andrew did tell somebody about and.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I feel perfectly comfortable drafting Glaciers
for next season. I have no problems, no issues at all.
He was probably the best closer in the game over
the second half of last year, and he has history
on his side, so I'll spend on a Glacias. I

(20:45):
don't have any problems.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
I got lucky in a couple of dynasty leagues. He
got dropped. I totally got it, and I said, you know,
I did a opportunistic signing. I just I grabbed him
and said, let's see what happens. And you're right. I
think he was very good in the and half. So
good on the on the braves for making that deal.
And did you hear that they non tendered the short
stuff that we were talking about last week and they

(21:09):
signed du bomb.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeah, they traded they traded him to uh Houston, I
guess Alan.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, they defaate him and then
they wound up trading him. Yeah that's pretty interesting.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah. Well, I think our consensus was a very it
was a very true one.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
He wasn't the answer, but neither was dubomb though, right,
that's not the.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
No. You know the other thing that I that I
found fascinating and you probably are one up in our
trade thing. I don't know where you said Josh Naylor
was going, but looks like it looks like he's calling
Seattle home, which is I think a very solid move
for the Mariners.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
I forgot where I said he was going, but we've
already had one of our Patreon members said you both
got him wrong, So I was.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Okay, okay, I know I did. I had him going
to the to the Mets, so we shock that one up.
But I thought it was a good, solid signing. I
like what the Marriers did there.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Let's talk about some of these non tender player surprise
any worries that, uh, you're not gonna be able to
sign him? Where the first is a Dolis Garcia? Does
he re sign somewhere? Timmy ors his easy Asian.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Baum, Oh no, he's going to get a job. I don't,
I don't, I don't have any any dose both and
Texas has a window to resign him as well, right
yeah sure, yeah, yeah, So uh a Dolos Garcia is
still a good solid baseball player. He'll lie chrong with somebody,

(22:44):
and I think it'll be other than Baltimore.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
I think, why does he signed with the Orioles. They
don't have enough so's playing time in Texas. If they
don't sign anybody.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Josh Smith, I think will probably end up with the
bulk of the plane, Tim possibly Alejandro Souna. They want
to look younger and see what's happening there. But I
think initially Josh Smith, Josh Smith gets a plane.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yes, and guitar player as well.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Man, I think it'll be okay, but I'm not It's
not something that I'm all of a sudden gonna bump
them up a lot. Yeah. I think he got close
to five hundred of bests playing all over the place
last year. Maybe the stability will prove to be a
little calming and he can up his output a little bit.
But that's that's that's my prediction.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
I mean, runs ten runs, twelve stole a basis that
twelve twelve kind of guy, right, So yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
A nice guy to have around as an injury replacement type.
I don't know about now. I don't know about an
every day regular. I haven't got to the outfield. Yet,
if he's an everyday regular at a ten ten player,
it's going to be a fun year building building your
seventy five man outfield in a fifteen team league.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Nathaniel low Tim finished up the season with the Red
Sox with getting their first basement back. Does Nathaniel low
get a job somewhere? Is he Asian bound?

Speaker 2 (24:20):
I think he gets a job somewhere. He had a
good second half. He played well in Boston. I thought
he'd Yeah. I think the numbers bear to that. And
I think somebody will be looking for a first base.
I mean, he'll find himself a job somewhere. I don't
think he's I don't think any of the players listed

(24:40):
are heading to Asia.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Let's see. Josh Lowe played from the eighteenth onward with
the Red Sox. He hit two eighty with just two
home runs, show a ton of power. But he did
two eighty three seventy four to twenty.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Yes, solid numbers.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Yeah, just the power just was not there for some reason.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yeah, and he was fairly consistent in Texas. If I'm
not mistaken, I don't think he was what they thought
he was going to be. But he wasn't a bad
little player. You know, if I'm not mistaken, twenty twenty
twenty eighty type sort of rings a bell. I'll just
double check it here. But again, I think they were

(25:27):
expecting I think they were expecting more. But you know,
when you look at his past three seasons, if it
ever loads up, yeah, I mean, you know, in twenty
twenty two, twenty seven, Homer seventy eight, seventeen eighty two,
sixteen sixty nine, eighteen eighty four last year, that's that's

(25:51):
an okay player.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah. The problem is he's starting to get expensive. Right,
So that's what happens with all these guys. To me,
I mean, it's like, are they the arbitration process works.
It's obviously a lot stats based, but it's also age
based as well, And once you get closer to free
agency here, the number goes up. And that's why these
guys get DFA. And it's like, you're not a ten

(26:14):
million dollar player, you're a four million dollar player. I'm
not going to tender you. We'll resign you for four
million dollars. Call us when you're ready.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
This kind of thing, right, Well, exactly, you end up
in a situation much like Rowdy Tolez he bounce from
team to team to team or yeah, Josh Bells, now
you know, and you know you move from team to team.
You bounce around and eventually, eventually you'll find a job,
but you'll have no security.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Look, but guess what, Timmy, that's fifty percent, if not more,
of Major League baseball players. That's their life, right. You've
got the young kids that are signed through team control
through the first four years. The fifth year gets a
little dicey. You've only got a handful of players that
have long term contracts. Everybody else, and most of them
are relievers, get signed for a gear and then wind

(27:03):
up playing for another team, or maybe they'll get signed
for two years type of thing. But that's how most
of these guys get Everybody talks about Otani and Soto
and everybody thinks that's the way it is. It's not.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
No, no, Probably ninety percent of the game is players
that are constantly on the lookout for something better.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Which is the thing that blows me away is the
Players Association. They should be like catering to these Nathaniel
Lowe's of the world. How do we make sure these
guys get paid? Because sho hey, Otani and Juan Soto
of the world. The next gener those guys are still
going to get huge, going to get huge sums of

(27:48):
money because they're really, really good. But that's the top
two percent. It's everybody else that the Players Association should
be worried about. And I see guys like Sures are
on the executive committee. I'm like, why are you seeing
you on the executive committee? Like it should be the
rank and file guys should be on the executive committee.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yeah. I think I think Major League I think the
players is making a huge mistake. The players that have
the elite skills and the proven history, they are going
to get their money. They don't have to be protected. Okay,
the nature of the game and their individuality will bring

(28:30):
them that money. Okay. Like you said, it's the guys
that your average players that's going to struggle and they
have a tendency I think to be overlooked in the process,
and I think it's a mistake.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
I think if if no matter how smart your player
representative on your team is, if you're assigned to a
long term contract, you can't you should not be elected
because I think your voice will be skewed and it's
not speaking to the majority of the players, and you.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
And I saw the same. I saw the real thing.
I saw it happen in the in the real world
in the grocery industry, Okay, with with Walmart coming in
and the increase in the number of part time workers
versus full time workers. The unions strove to protect your
full time employee. But what they did was they set

(29:25):
it up so that employers could simply fill all those
positions as they vacated with part time employees. And now
you have an industry that's dominated with people that can't
buy a house and struggle on a on a week
to week basis to live. And I think it's the
same situation in baseball, except the numbers are much bigger.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yeah, yeah, fascinating stuff. We could spend all day on that.
To me, a couple more players, Kristaper Morell. Look, if
any one of these four is going to play an Asia,
to me, it's Christopher Murrie. So does he get up.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
When I looked at this as I forgot about Morell. Yeah,
he's an intriguing prospect for Asia simply because he's got
the power. Okay, and quite often, you know, the the
Japanese teams when they're looking at their North America, they're
looking for big power guys. Oh okay, Morell can fulfill

(30:27):
that need. So I'm I'm going to say that Morell
ends up in Japan or Korea for a year. I'll
take back my original statement. I think he could go
over there and hit forty home runs back to thirty
and possibly find his way back to Major League Baseball
in twenty seven or twenty eight.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
The promise he can't recognize a curve ball to save
his life, and that's that's just his problem. He's he
just can't. He's got huge power, hits the ball and
it hits about forty of the time in the year.
I mean, so it's a highly leveraged sling chase the
stuff out of the strike zone.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
And that's just.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Those guys I say a time, they are a They're
not a diamond dozen, but they're a dime a dozen.
There's a ton of those guys that are out there,
and anytime somebody gets expensive, they're gone.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yeah. Yeah, Joey Gallows. You know, there's a lot of
guys that can hit the ball a ton, but they
just don't do it often enough. And I was sort
of surprised. I thought, I thought the Rais keep, but
they're the Rais of the epitome of cheapness. So yeah, yeah,
so it fits the half.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Their minor league system as guys as good as Christopher
bro alec Mana. I mean, look, this guy's going to
get a shot after a shot he was once really good.
Maybe Tommy John has taken you know, has really reduced
him to not the same player, But he's going to
get a shot somewhere, right.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
I would think so with the situation, you know, with
everybody looking for starting pitchers, somebody he is going to take.
Somebody's going to take a chance and see what they
can make of it. Should that not work out, then
in twenty seven he'll be in career or Japan if
he wants to continue playing the game. If he can't

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make it work this year, yeah, he'll be overseas for
next year.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
I think that makes sense. Speaking of everseas, Timmy, the
last question before we break consumers. Akamoto looks like he
has posted I don't even know what position he plays.
Tell us what you know about him.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
He plays first and third and he's as in the field. Actually,
the reason is that he only played half a year
this year is because he got caught in one of
those situations tagging a runner at first base where the
runner ran into his arm and sort of almost ripped
it off his shoulder. One of those Yeah, that's why

(32:53):
he Yeah, that's why he only played half a year
this year. It was an elbow injury. But he is
a very very good a very good player, first or third. Uh,
he was a captain, And I'm very surprising that the
Giants posted him because it is the first positional player

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of only I think a total of three players that
the Giants have ever posted, and he was the team captain. Okay,
so it sort of reinforces to me the fact that
some teams he's going to be a free agent, and
had would have been a free agent after this year
and heading over anyways, and I think the twenty twenty
seven you know, the question of whether we'll have ball

(33:34):
came into play on this one. But being the captain
of the Giants in Japan is the equivalent to being
the Derek Jeter on the New York Yankees. Understood, Okay, Yeah,
he's it's a.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Big I'm looking I'm thinking I'm looking at a stat
line timmy eights. So twenty twenty four was twenty eight
to twenty seven home runs. Twenty twenty three twenty forty
one home runs, eighteen point strikeout rate of sixteen percent,
strikeout of eleven point three percent strikeout. He walked as
much as he struck out last year, hit three twenty seven.

(34:07):
I mean, yeah, yeah, I mean he looks like he's
the best player in baseball. So I mean, who is
this guy?

Speaker 2 (34:15):
He is? Yeah, he is a very very good player.
Last year he had fifteen homers in half a season,
and you got to remember that it's a dead bowler.
And right now in Japan, Okay, I think there were
only three players in the one division that hit twenty
or more home runs. He hit fifteen and half a season.
He is a really, really good player. If you look

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at comparing him, say to Murakami, Okay, the ceiling is lower,
but the floor is much safer, much much safer. I
could see. That's the That's that's the difference between the two. Okomotive,
what will be Yeah, you'll be thirty next June. I

(35:02):
think it is Maria Kami is four years younger. Okay,
that's that's the principal dish difference. The risk is with
Murakami and whether or not you'll be able to hit
and fulfill the power that.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
He has got huge strikeout rates. It looks like.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yeah huge, Yeah, it's yeah, yeah, yeah, very very huge.
If you ask me, between the two of them, Lookamore
is a player that I'm going to be targeting. Yeah,
Kami is a player that I'm not going to be targeting.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Wanting any of them, but out of the two, I uh,
the guy we're talking about now, Okamoto seems a little
bit more interesting to me, just because he's had a
lot less fan fare coming to the seasons. I'm assuming
he's gonna be cheaper, and it looks like there's power
and he's a better hitter.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Yeah, I think it is. He is a better all
around hitter definitely. From twenty eighteen through to twenty three,
I think six year run, he didn't hit less than
thirty home runs. Okay, yeah he can. He is a
good player, and I when I'm looking at my corner
infield slot, He's somebody that I'll be targeting, definitely.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
So I don't know, inn FBC, there's he's going as
a three hundred and ninety second player off the board,
and Murakami is going as a two hundred and fourteenth
player off the board. So maybe as Okamota gets more famous,
just because he's now you know, he's now posted, maybe
those numbers get closer together. But for now, I mean,

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there's a huge price difference between the.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Two, absolutely incredible price. As far as I'm concerned, I
will take I will take Ohmoo before I take Mirakami
and reed draft leagues, no question.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Let's take a break, come back, and let's talk about
the National League East.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Sounds like to me.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
Let's start off with the Miami Marlins here. Let's hit
it hard Jacob Marcy bat bats, home runs, stolen bases,
and batting average. I'm assuming it's seventy five home runs,
one hundred and thirty stolen bases. I'm assuming that's the
baseline for him.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Ah, yes, you forgot to mention the four to twenty
batting average other than that, Yeah, yeah, no, I think
we brought it up last week. I think I said
twelve thirty five somewhere in there, batting average two seventy.
I think he's gonna be a good player.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
So twelve home runs, thirty five stolen bases and how
much what's the batting average.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
To seventy to seventy? Well, okays, he's gonna be a good,
good player. Five you're gonna play full time, five fifty
at bats and yeah, I think he's gonna be fine.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
I traded him, I think at the end of last season,
or maybe it was in the offseason already in one
that had him in two dynasty leagues. I traded him
in one, which I gladly did because it was a
waiver where I picked him. I got a really good
player for him too. So people believe that he's going
to be there. Let's let's let's take a look at
he is going as a thirty second excuse me, thirty

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six outfielder off the board. Jacob Marcy or Brenton Doyle
at thirty seven, Marcie, Jacob Marcy or Taylor Ward the
much talked about Taylor Ward at thirty eight. Marcy Uh,

(38:43):
Stephen Kwan at thirty nine Marcia all right, let's go
the other way. Satan's Rafael at thirty five, Jacob Marcy
at thirty six, Marcy Wow, Brandon Nemo thirty four, Jacob
Marcy at thirty six.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
I'll probably go with Nemo. A lot of my leagues
are obp Leakes, so I'll hopefully get a bump from Nemo.
But it's very, very close.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
So what's most people playing batting average lea because they
were playing to batting average? What would you do?

Speaker 2 (39:19):
I'd probably go with the upside out of Marcy.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
The next number thirty three is interesting, Joe Adele versus
number thirty six Jacob Marcy.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
It'll depend on how I construct my team with my
first couple of outfielders. Okay, if I'm looking for power,
I'll go with Adele. If I'm looking for the speed,
I'll go with Marsei. But I wouldn't have any problems
interchanging either one of them based on my needs. Eh.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
The next one's easy, Jacob Marcy or Chandler Simpson. You
go Marcy? I mean it's just yeah, Chandler Simpson could
steal on hundred bases. Everybody, get it?

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Yep, you go Marcia?

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Yep, every time?

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Right? I agree? Neville Marte, Uh, I'm probably gonna go
with Marseille. I don't know, no, no, Elvint Martey. There's risk. There,
there's a The outfield is filled with risk. It really
is Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
How about Lewis Roberts.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Lewis Roberts don't want to have no. Tim is not
touching Lewis Robert with a ten football this year. I'm
staying right away from so so.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Tim mcclown line, no, no, no and no yes.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
What part of no do you fail to comprehend exactly?

Speaker 1 (40:35):
How about Lawrence Butler at twenty nine ADP of one
thirty three versus Jacob Marcy at thirty six a one
fifty six ADP.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
I'm probably gonna go with I'm probably gonna go with.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Marci Wow, Kyle Kyle Stowers.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Again, it's the choice beream power and speed.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
Andy pehas Andy Paius at twenty seven Wow, given the
right a different answer after before the World Series or
after the World Series. But what's your what's your thought there?

Speaker 2 (41:09):
I don't have any problems with a preference on Mercie,
and same with ti Oscar Hernandez again. I up up
until we get to Jose L. Tuve, who I will
take ahead of him, Okay, and probably Michael Harris Springer.
I could go as high comfortably, I think on Marseille,

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as high as maybe the twenty sixth outfielder off the board.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Yeah, so you so you brought to have taskar Hernandez are.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Right, Uh yeah, I would. Yeah, but then it's he's
not a spring chicken either.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
No. No, the only weird one of that and that
Tyler Soda Strom and I get the power, but I
don't know twenty second.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Well, I'm playing in a minor park. Doesn't hurt his cause.
But you look at the outfield. Okay, we're up to
your top twenty outfielders. Okay, we're looking at twenty to thirty,
and we're debating a guy that doesn't have a month
and a half or two once he got half a
season in. If that, yeah, you go up even higher. Okay,

(42:20):
you get Pete crow Armstrong who didn't at ten, who
didn't play in the second half, Roman Anthony a very
good young player. But you know what do we see
in the second year Duran? Duran didn't have a great year.
Merrill was hurt most of the year. He's at fifteen.
Brent Rooker, Yeah, raw power. There are question marks, O'Neil Cruz,

(42:46):
how do you like that batting average? There are question
marks all the way through the outfield. After you get
basically after you get up to maybe your top six
or seven outfielders. I think I'm going to be looking
at trying to find a way to get one of
that top seven outfielders on my team, just for rest

(43:08):
rest rest easier at night syndrome, to try and cure that,
because there's question marks all over the place in the outfield.
There really is.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Yeah, I mean yeah, I agree with I mean, Cody
Bellinger if he goes back to New York, which seems
to be seems to be there. I mean, look that
bats made for New York. I get that. Save Suzuki
is power. You know, you still get him an outfield.
I think that's pretty safe. Michael Harris was tough last year.
George Springer, do you think he's really gonna bounce back?

(43:38):
Hosel Tuv having foot surgery, you're gonna play him at
second base? Anyway? I think it gets really dicey after
Tiascar Hernandez. That's what you know, the ones I just
went through. It's Jacob Marsy becomes interesting there.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
So yeah, when I started looking at the oatfield, there
there are more players that generate interest from from me
from forty to sixty than there are from twenty to forty.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
Yeah, I mean, I'm looking at it. I think you're right.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
Yeah, Yeah, It's it's an odd situation. Outfield is going
to be all over the place. But guys like like
Addison Barger, I like and Sal Freylk, you know, well
into the forties and fifties, Brian Reynolds or Adulton barshow you
can stay healthy. I like Dale and Lyle Jordan Beck

(44:36):
and Colorado those players have some even Mickey Moniac in Colorado,
they have.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Some times for me not making me an I'm I'm
wanna call Byes on that one.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Will You're a brave and Boston at fifty nine. Those guys,
some of the guys between twenty and forty, I have
considerably less interest in them, especially at the prices are
currently going at.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
Yeah, And it's funny you start to get into your
fourth guys and you're looking at Dylan Beavers and you know,
all of a sudden he might not have a job.
So camp Smith was not very good. Chase Aloud is
he going to plays at seventy two? These are guys
that are your you know, you have to draft these guys.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Zach McKinstry might not have a job. Holy Yeah, Josh
Lowell platoon player, Adulas Garcia. Where's our Adulas right now?
He's looking for work, right g And Carl Stanton at sixty. Yeah,
it's oatfield is going to be but ugly. I think
this year rich, it really is. That's why getting one
of the top seven or eight guys has its terms

(45:41):
for me.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Number two. I know you've been a big fan of
Connor Norby in the past. It's a bit over a
half season. He went eight and eight, eight home runs,
eight solo banks basis making him a fifteen to fifteen
player with a two fifty ish batting average. That's not awful,
but he's being drafted as one His ADP is three
eighty seven and he's a thirtieth third basement off the board.

(46:04):
I don't know Timmy, a fifteen to fifteen player who
was the thirtieth third basement off the board. That seems
like somebody you would be interested in as a corner infielder,
as a bench role.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
I My problem is there are some I can live
with where Norby's going. I think it's fair being around
the thirtieth, but there's players that I like at third
base that are just marginally ahead of him, Miguel Vargas
and Ernie Clement in Toronto and Okamoto, those three interests

(46:39):
me more than Norby does this year. I think it's
fair and I think there might be an opportunity. But
there's just other guys I like that are just either
marginally ahead or behind where Norby's going, So I probably
won't be I probably won't be looking at him in
light of that.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
Do you think about Jordan Lawler?

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Ah, fascinating pick. He's got all the skills in the world.
We just haven't seen it at the big league level yet. Hey,
he's going in the right place to generate a potentially
huge return keyword being potentially right.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
Yeah, I don't know what you do with guys like that.
I mean, as Tim said, clearly has the talent. But
I mean I think if you grab him there and
then he blows up and does really well, you can't
sit there and say that you're smart.

Speaker 4 (47:28):
I mean it was simply a guess that you've got
right right, Well, yeah, and you're gonna hey, and let's
face it, the more you guess, the more you're gonna
get both right and wrong.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Okay, and it's the wrong ones. You have to worry
about how many wrong guesses in you're starting fourteen and nine,
how many wrong guesses can you have one or two?
Maybe start exceeding that. Then you're just you're just tossing
darts and you're either gonna be very lucky and you're
gonna win your league or you're going to finish somewhere

(48:01):
between thirteenth and fifteenth. Right, you know that game works?

Speaker 1 (48:04):
Agree Like Connor Norby at thirty two or Jordan Lawler
at twenty nine. Connor Norby doesn't have the upside of
Jordan Lawler, but he's gonna be play right and he
could probably do a twelve on run fifteen solar basis
kind of thing. It'd be okay. But Jordan Lawler, he's
done nothing in the major leagues that would indicate that

(48:25):
he's even gonna break camp with the job or even
get playing time throughout the year. But if he does,
he could be great.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Well. Yeah, and that's why I like Vargus and Clement
and Okamortal because I think all three of them are
going to play full time and generate stats for the
whole full year for you, And as we just mentioned,
that counts.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
You go ahead.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
No, sorry, you know, hey, if Lawler ends up spending
three months in the minors because he struggles out of
the gate, and that's your toast. Depending on where you
draft him, you're going to be spending a lot of time,
spending a lot of fab trying to fill holes.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Just reading the great Tim McLeod's test text to me,
as I was trying to get everything to work properly,
and that says nothing like trying to replace that old
Commodore well played. I was wondering, I didn't see that
till right now. Commodore sixty four. Remember that Back in

(49:25):
the day, that was like sexy man.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
How can you forget? Oh? Yeah? And then came Atari
and that world change.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
Oh I think it's sorry came first.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Yeah, Okay, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
It could be wrong, could be hey. Mikyle Stowers had
his breakout last season two eighty eight batting average, twenty
five home runs and only one hundred and seventeen games.
If I do the math, Tim, that's nine hundred home
runs he's going to hit in twenty twenty six. He's
a twenty eighth outfielder off the board. Do you feel
good about him being number two? Number two? Outfielder on
your team.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
I think I feel as good about him being in
number two as I feel about the oatfield in general.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
Interesting. Yeah, that's a good way to look at it.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Yeah, there's a slow question marks all through the oatfield
and hey, I Hey, if you're looking for power, the
potential is there to see a thirty five home run season? Yeah,
that's that's number two oatfielder. If I have him as
my number two, I want to have uh one of

(50:29):
the big seven on my team.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
So that that's an interesting question for you. So so
you're let's say you get let me get back to
the outfield. Let's say let's say you're you're able to
secure we want so at three. Let's say you get Wan,
So he's your fourth pick off the border. Maybe get
lucky he drops the five or six. What do you

(50:51):
do with outfield after that? Do you wait on him
or do you try to get a stours as a
number two guy? Do you wait even me? How would
you play that?

Speaker 2 (51:03):
How would I play that? I would probably want a
relatively consistent I. If I could pair him up with
Randy or Rose Arena, then I wouldn't look at the
outfield again until we got down to forty to sixty,
and I'd fill my outfield with guys like Addison bargerself, Freelik,
Bryan Reynolds. I'd take a chance on one or two

(51:26):
of either Lyle or Beck. I would if I can
get a top Heyvy, that means I can the middle
of my draft instead of filling outfield, then I can
go later on the outfield.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
But you you what that legitimate second guy though? From
what so if you if you did want Soto and
did not get you know, a rose Arena, maybe even
if you could go early like a white length for
Roman Anthony a couple of rounds earlier. If you don't
get that, then all of a sudden, your last four
guys are going to be potentially some question marks there.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Yeah, I think his question marks from about twenty on,
twenty one, twenty two on, So you can't avoid the
question marks. What I would want to do is try
and limit the risk. Get full time players that might
be boring, but take them before the higher risk types.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
Okay, so what do you do if you take show
Hey Otani or Bobby w Junior or Leda Cruz somebody
like that in the first round and then you're the
first how would you approach outfield if you went in
that strategy.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
I would probably look at one player between a guy
like Riley Green. Okay. I would look at a Riley
Green in about the fourth fifth round and then blow
out outfield off until until he after forty picks. Okay,

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and look at strengthening my team in other areas because
the bottom line, there's just so much risk.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
I'm looking at the eighty p's and if yeah, if,
if you decide to go with a non outfield in
the first two rounds, there's a big drop. I mean
James Wood and Pete Crow Armstrong nine and ten or
or twenty nine thirty, but then White Language and Extrica
off the board. He's fifty one, So you're not going

(53:32):
to get one of the big guys. Let's go all
the way down to Jackson Churio. You're not going to
get one of the big eights in the first two rounds.
If you decide to go in another direction.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Yeah, and if you're not going to get one of
the big guys to ank or your oat field, then
what is the advantage in a Jackson Merrill Okay, O'Neil
Cruz type over a guy like Joy Dell and Jacob Mercy.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
You would like to say that Jackson Merrill is a
more complete player than all those guys, and hopefully Jackson
Merrow's injuries were kind of acute last season as opposed
to going to be another problem this year. But yeah,
that is my only argument against that.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Yeah, I tough decisions are going to have to be made,
but I I'm going to try and stay away from
being forced into taking somebody as compared to choosing who
I want, If that makes any sense. Yeah, Like if
you know, if Luis Roberts is sitting there at one

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point fifty, I'm still not touching him with I don't
care how much of a bargain he is, you know
what I mean? The same with Chandler Simpson. He's going
to have to follow a long ways before I generate
in interest simply because he's one dimensional, right, yep? Do
I want to te up? Do I want to tie
up my thirty second oatfielder off the war, which is

(55:04):
a number three with the guy that's going to get
me stolen bases? Only? No, I'm gonna pass.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
And then the strategy everyone, if you go all powered decide, oh,
it'll just get Chandler Simpson and a couple another guy
later on that then you're putting all of your eggs
in one basket for that particular category, and it can
work out great. It would have worked that great last
season for you. But it's in general not because if
that guy gets hurt, that guy gets demoted. I mean

(55:30):
you're totally your law. You've lost your top's fourth or
fifth place.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Well, yeah, and if you want to put all your
eggs in one basket this year, okay, it's not Chandler
Simpson that you want to put your eggs in the basket.
It's a guy like let me see here, Philadelphia. Okay,
what's his Oh? I should I've got is his name?

(56:01):
For later on in the podcast. If you want to,
you're wanna go all all in the basket for speed, Okay,
you put your eggs in the Justin Crawford basket this
year where you're not paying anything for him, and he's
got a job. You should break camp and he could
steal forty bases.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Oh Justin? You really think Justin Crawford is going to
break camp?

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Yes? I do. I think he's got a job. That's
a that to me is eight given and when we
get into Philadelphia, I'll explain it a little bit. But
that's yeah, that's the guy. You want to put your
eggs in the basket.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
How about at your eggs and help up putting your
eggs in. Victor Scott at seventy nine.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Four oh seven, there's a good name.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Yeah, it's just as fast as Chandler Simpson, right.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
Yeah, but he plays in Saint Louis, so who knows
what they'll do to him between now and spring training.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
I would absolutely love to see Justin Crawford break camp.
I've got to be shocked. I I will be shocked
that the Philadelphia Phillies are going to allow that.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
My that is my offer on the first stake and
liquor bed of the year.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
I don't want to go against that because I want
to see him come up. But uh yeah, Tay. We
got a couple boarded here, Sandy Alk Conference and his brother,
Sandy Alk Cantara. They were both bad last year, but
he's a sixty six pitcher off the board. And I
remember you saying I believed I agree with you. Maybe
I said and you agreed with me that we were
hoping he would drop as the fiftieth starter off the board,

(57:30):
the sixty sixth pitcher off the board. Has he dropped
far enough.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
For you to be interested in gimme, gimme, gimmey, which
is the opposite of no, no, no, and no and
no yes. In the second half, he posted a three
thirty three year A and thirteen starts with a one
oh four whip.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
Wow, I did not know that.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
In the second half and eighty three innings, pitched sixty
seven hits, twenty walks, seventy one k's, and he allowed
a too eight team batting average. I will move Sandy
al Contra Alcantra. I will move him up from that
fiftieth starter spot by a fairly good bit heading into

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this year. You heard it from me. Yeah, I'm all over.
I'm all over Sandy.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
When Ryan Weathers has pitched, he's been okay, not great,
it's been okay, but unfortunately he always seems to get hurt.
He's the one hundred and twentieth pitcher off the board.
That's one two let's call it eighty fifth, ninetieth starters
at your number six starter. Is that someone that interests
you as your last starting pitcher on your squad?

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Uh No, I'm going to pass. I've seen too many
of the injuries. I've lived through too many of them.
I get it. I understand why he's worthy of a
dart toss, but there's a lot of pictures out there
worthy of a dirt toss. Okay, and Ryan Weathers is
not going to be one for me this year. I'm
going to be I'm going to be as.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
H Okay, last question, give me a sleeper in the
organization minor and majors.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
Well, I mean going back to Ryan Ryan Weathers. Okay,
here's two pictures that all tossed dart took darts at
before Ryan Weathers. One is Robbie Snelling and the others
Thomas White. Okay, I love I love.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
I love Snelling. For this upcoming season, I think he's
a little bit more ready a little safe for Thomas
White as the home run. But I think both of
those guys are great.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Yeah, you know, Snelling's right now at the one fifty four,
Weathers is a one twenty. Where where are you going
to invest in? It? Seems almost like a no brainer
to me.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
I think you're right there. Absolutely, Where's White.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
With a five thirty six ADP and I think he'll
see time in twenty twenty six. I don't know how much.
I don't think he'll see as much as Snelling. But again,
we're talking sleepers, so I'm throwing both names out there
considering their potential. I see I've just got.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
With a five sixty eight ADP.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Just FYI, Okay, I did these. I did both of
these a week or so ago, so obviously he's balling. Yeah, OK, yeah,
I did them. I was. I was ready to discuss
Miami last week. We just ran out of ran out
of time on it. But the other guy, I want
to mention at one o eight. At least he was

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at one OA with an ADP of two eighty eight.
I like a lot is running and Riquez like last
year a two twenty two ear, a one ten whip,
ninety eight strikeouts and seventy three innings pitched, even if
he doesn't own the closer job, and he got seven
saves last year. Even if he doesn't own that closer job,
he's going to get some saves and that high strikeout

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ray lowira that's going to hold value in especially fifteen
team leagues. So I I like Ronnie Enriquez.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
A lot I have Ronnie and Riquez in a couple
of Dynasty leagues because you told me to take him. So,
uh yeah, that's why I did.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
I think you'll I think you'll be happy. Rich. Yeah,
but he's no Amelia figure.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
Well, I guess who's gonna hear about it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
I have a hunch you could be me.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
And come back and to the Mets. Tim and I
have a love relationship. I love everything about Tim until
so he selects a guy for me that's wronger than
I hate him.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
But yeah, I perfect get, I perfectly I get. Yeah,
I feel the same way Rich.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
And I listened to my cloud. It's like I can't
drop them fast enough. So, uh, timmy, I did spend
a good part of the week just trying to rationalize
all of our Dynasty leagues and trying to fill some
open holes. So a lot of invites have gone out
to members are our Patreon site, so getting all those filled.
So it's it's fun starting to take a look at

(01:02:21):
everything and trying to figure out who's who's returning, who's
not returning, and uh so, yeah, people are interested to
join us out at the Patreon site. There's a couple
more leagues that Uh, we've had a few drops this
year that have opened up a real buying opportunity for people. So, uh,
it's fun. It's fun being feeling like Santa Claus handing

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out truths to everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
Yeah, isn't not the Great Pumpkin too.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
That's true. Yeah, it's great. I looked out the rosters, like,
you get three, you get to choose one of three.
Here's three teams, what do you think? And yeah, and
people are yeah, most people are. I haven't seen one
like keep getting carried over to the next person. The
one team that nobody wants. I haven't seen that yet.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
So yeah, yes, the one that could turn your fifteen
team into a fourteen team league.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Yeah, one one team that the guy had to step away.
Most of the people that are stepping away just you know,
I got too much other stuff going on my life,
you know, new kids and things like that, which you
totally get. One guy had Tony on the team, and
I thought, you know, I just assumed he'd be the
team one that everybody jumped on. A lot of people
are like, you know, I want a bit more of

(01:03:33):
a challenge. Let me take somebody else, a younger team
or a team that like I have to work with
a little bit more. I thought that was really interesting
perspective some people take on their dynasty leagues.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
Yeah, my approach would be a team where I can win.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
Okay, so yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
Some people don't.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
Some people want to have the real challenge and give
me the worst team you got, And I want to
spend the next two or three years like making that
team work. And that could be fun too.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Yeah it can, yes, I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
Tim says, No, anyway, let's go with the Mets, and
that's appeared to be moving on from Pete Alonzo at
least that's everything I'm hearing. I think you've got Alonzo
going back to the Mets. If I'm not mistaken, Maybe
I got.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
I got them going to San Diego.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
So I think we talked about this when we did
our our. I don't remember who you got it first.
Fianto's aid first, Battie at third? Is that the way
you see it coming out? Do you like that? Do
you like Batty? Do you like Viena's Who would you
rather have?

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
I would rather have Baddie, Well, simply because because he's
got second base eligibility. Okay, okay, that counts this year
second base is dreadful. It's it's it might be worse
than the outfield if that's if that's possible. So for me,
there's risk in both. But if I'm going to take

(01:04:58):
my risk, I think I would prefer to take it
at second base, and Batty has that. But again there's
there's some interesting you know. Can we combine this with
the third question?

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
Will Jeff mcneilll be a full time second base? He's
coming back from TOS surgery, isn't he?

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Yeah, he is, So we don't even we don't even
know if he's going to be ready and what level
he's going to be ready. Okay, so Baddy could end
up at second base, you know? Can Jet Williams? Another question?
Can Jet Williams play second or third base? Jacob Reimer
by mid season could be around, Louise Angelcunya can play second,
a third. I believe there's a million questions, you know,

(01:05:40):
like what do you what do you do? I'm avoiding
Jeff McNeil, but who do you? Who do you pick
up that fits with him? And I think Baddy might
be the wise choice for now? What what what say you?
How does Jet Williams fit into the equation because he's
just about ready, isn't he.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
Yeah, so he's primarily play shortstop, a little center field,
some second base, and looking at some second base. Actually,
towards the end of the season, he was playing every
other day at second base. So that is very very interesting. McCleod,
I like where you're heading with that. Maybe they knew

(01:06:19):
what Jeff McNeil was going to be kind of dealing with.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
Yeah, So first of all, I think I think Jeff
Williams canna play the outfield. I think it'd be a
great center fielder as well. So do I like Batty
over Vienta's I think I like Batty Moore have kind
of always liked Batty a little bit more of than Viento's.
I don't like either one of them, be honest with you.

(01:06:46):
I think they're both transitional. I think they're better players
that are coming. And I do think the Mets will
bring in bring either Pete Alonzo back or bring in
a big bat that they can put at one of
the corner spots. And if they're going to have to
deal with bringing trying to fill the corner spots with

(01:07:07):
two big guys, I'm not sure that's going to work
long term for I think they're going to have an
Alex Bregman or a Lonzo, somebody who's established at because
that's where your big power is coming from. And to
go with two kids I don't feel good about. Yeah,
Battie at second base would be interesting, But looking at this,
I kind of agree with you Jet Williams to be
a little bit more interesting, and Lewis and Galliacuna, as

(01:07:29):
you said, could play that. So I think there's a
lot of options there.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Yeah, there's a lot of there. There's a ton of options,
and a lot will depend on how healthy Jeff may'neil
is in the spring as to where Baddie ends up.
But I getting back to I as a second at
second base, depending on what happens with Jeff Williams. There's
a lot of moving parts. But he sort of interests
me there more so than Bianto's does.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
I'm going to be shocked if McNeil as yours the
Met's second basement on opening day. Look, he's he's coming
back from a pretty horrible kind of surgery and injury
and he's not that good all right, right, So I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
Yeah, no, yeah, he's an okay, player, but he's not
a star, not any stranger the imagination.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
But if you're taking a look at at what, look
they got Francisco Lindor and Juan Soto after that, I
mean it's I mean Brandon Nemo's okay, Viento's and Brick
Batty Francisco Vers talked about him and I'm a McNeil,
Ronnie Mauricio. This is not a championship level line up him.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
No it is not. And there's some rumors that they're
looking at possibly me trying to move Nemo and maybe
that maybe that's where like right now, they got Tyrone
Taylor pencil into center field.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
Okay, well it's gonna be Carson, benje or Jet Williams.
What's your next question? So that's not gonna be Taylor?

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
Yeah, exactly, yeah, which and they've also got with Taylor,
they've also got McNeil in there. Okay, So there's some
there's some questions yet to be answered with the Metropolitans.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
I think, look, I think the Mets have got some
really interesting players about ready that are sitting in triple
A Carson bench. Maybe you're gonna have all these guys
on your on your sleeperless, So I apologize, but I
love I love Carson Bench. I think he's probably more
ready the Bats, more ready than Jet Williams from a

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fantasy standpoint that Jet Williams could be a monster. Both
of those guys are going to see time in the
big leagues, and Ryan Clifford could be a poor man's
Pete Alonzo and like in draft and hold leagues, I'd
be really interested in that guy because that dude can
hit balls an awful long way. Seeing him play a

(01:09:53):
ton last year and I was actually really impressed. And
I don't generally like like three true outcome ties, but
but that guys, that's huge power, huge power. So they
got three really interesting guys that But the Mets also
have a history of spending money on free agents, so
we'll see what they do.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
They'll probably sign Murakami for another three you know, three
outcome type player, right, So.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
If they signed murik Kami and he plays third or first,
then one of those guys is going to be out.
And you would say Vientos would be the guy because
you like Brett Baddie Moore.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
Well, I think he offers you a bit more flexibility
as no round player. Yeah, and I don't think Murakami
is not playing third base.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
He's gonna play first.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
He's gonna play first. Yeah, actually where his his best
position is D. H Okay, we.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
Unfortunately there's a lot of guys like that. But outside
of show Heyo Tani, I'm not sure he's the only
legitimate D that's out there.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
Yeah yeah, there's a lot of illegit ilegitimate yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
okay to going to be interesting to see how the
Mets actually rule all this out and what they do
in the offseason to come up with an opening day lineup.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
Just a pile of questions.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
Yeah, I mean, I think them and the Phillies, which
we're going to do next, are the two systems that
I think having this discussion here on the twenty third
of November is going to drastically change in six weeks.
I just thank boy this, uh you know, the roster
resource is going to look completely different. I just can't
believe these guys are going to go to bat with

(01:11:42):
some of these players. I agree Francisco Alvarez, though Jimmy
started to show some signs of being an impact player,
slugged eleven home runs in seventy six games. It's just
twenty four next season over under twenty home runs for
twenty twenty six under does that because he's not going

(01:12:03):
to get the yet bats or not just not fully
baked yet.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
I think it's time will prove that that great rookie
season he had in twenty twenty three where he slept
twenty five homers in three hundred and eighty two at bets,
I think that's going to prove to be an outliner.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
So I think he's just not that good.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
Yeah, yeah, I think he'll be okay, but I you know,
the Mets are going to piller DH slot with basically
a full time player. He's not going to get additional
with bats, okay, So I think he's going to be
fifteen to twenty home run type with two thirty batting average.
That's just I know, a twenty four it's it should

(01:12:48):
be tough to pay a player. But I just don't
feel confident in Francisco El Where is taking that next step? Okay,
not with his bad ball skills.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
All right, Rock took a quick break ahead. Goda has
something something to do real quick. So we were talking
about Francis Alvarez. Temmy just thinks that first season, his
rookie season is an outlier. Let's move on the code.
Die Singer posted decent numbers in twenty twenty five, with
three or two ear ray and one hundred and nine
strikeouts in fifty five walks. That's pretty good, Timmy, the

(01:13:24):
walks were too high. But why did the Mets hate
him so much he sent him to the minor leagues.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
Well, the first half of twenty twenty five he was
sporting a one thirty nine y RA. Second half he
was hurt again and the year A was six fifty six.
Somewhere between June and July he lost it. I'm assuming
it was another injury, okay, and that's why he was bouncing.

(01:13:51):
They're trying to get him on track. He has been
hurt other than the rookie year. He's had. Injury issue
is constantly since he's been with the Mets pretty much.
And yeah, like last year he had one start. I
believe that's Yeah, that's tough. I think they're gonna have

(01:14:13):
to keep try and keep him healthy. They're gonna have
to limit the innings and possibly go with a six
starter thing. And I don't know how much more patience
than the Mets will exercise.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
So are they gonna move? You think they'll move in
this winter, then I.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
Think it makes sense. Yeah, sing it can be an
ace level starter. But as we've seen over the past
couple of seasons, the health has challenged. So the Mets
have a lot of young pitchers chomping at the bed.
It might be the right opportunity for them and the
right timing to make a move.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
Yeah, somebody will go for maybe the Angels or Orioles
or somebody like that. Seriously, who were desperate for some
starting pitching. So I was gonna ask this stat line
on singing, but I'm gonna ask a different question. Oh, okay,
under twenty starts in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
Wash, that's the number I pretty well got pigged eight
eighteen to twenty somewhere in there.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
Interesting. Okay, who's the Mets closer?

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
It's Edwin Diaz, or it better be. If you've looked
at the if you're looked at their bullpen and you're
at all a Mets van, it better be. It better
be Edwin Diaz. They need them in the ninth inning
a lot more than they need Pete Alonzo's bat, hitting, hitting,
in the forest blot without the Mets having dias. That

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bullpen is a disaster and nobody, including Tommy Trumpet, is
gonna save it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
So you keep you keep threatening that you're going to
go into an NFBC draft. Again, it's the twenty third
of November, and still know Tim McCleod an NFBC draft.
But if you were to get into one, would you
draft anybody in the Mets bullpen to be their closer?

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
Edwin?

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
Is anybody anybody on the roster is not on the roster,
but anyway currently on the roster. Yeah, anybody there that
interests you A J.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
Mentor No, No, you know the combined ages of Brooks,
Raley and Oscar Braza. Bean is closing in on eighty als.
Alay is not pitching, he's coming off. Tommy, John H.
Richard love lady, Hey, we all love ladies. But no,
it's not No, it's not happening a lot. Their bullpen

(01:16:40):
is a mess.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
You're you're absolutely right. Mentor thirty two, Brooks thirty seven. Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
Mentor pitched I think eleven innings last year.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
Yeah he did.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
Yeah, I don't know why they wasted putting c l
beside his name. Okay, uh at a roster resource. Now
I've they've got without a competent closer, and Diaz is
all of that. And then that bullpen. It doesn't matter
what they do with that offense, that bullpen will cost

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them a playoff spot.

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
Give me a sleep in the organization, minor and majors.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
Okay, I got, I got a couple of names here,
but we've already we've already discussed both of them. Jet Williams, yep, Okay,
he's gonna get. He's gonna get some time. And hey,
that's something I can't for the life of me figure out. Okay.
And this is nothing personal against Tyrone Taylor. Okay, but

(01:17:44):
they just signed him for three point eight million on
a one year deal when they got Jet Williams sitting
in the minor like why, Okay, I I don't get it. Okay,
Tyrone Taylor is not going to be a full time
center fielder in that organization. If they're at it, you know,
a playoff spot. So I got Jeff Williams and the

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other guy's Carson Benji. They've already said they're gonna give
him a shot to make the team. Death in deeper
leagues drafting holds after forty. Yeah, I tossed Art his way.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
So I can answer on Tyron Taylor, because I mean again,
I continue to work with a number of agents, and
this is this is what I have learned about guys
like Tyron Taylor, who actually one of the guys I
work for represents Taylor. Okay, so Tyrone Taylor will be

(01:18:37):
thirty one, He'll be in the league for the next
five years because he is a seventy great defender. So
at three point eight million dollars, I didn't know that's
what he signed for. Quite frankly, is the going rate
for your fourth outfielder, veteran fourth outfielder. And so you

(01:18:58):
can if Jet Williams looks terrible or Carson Binge looks
terrible in the and spring training in the Mets socide
they need another six weeks or they get promoted in
April and he stinks and he's got to go back down.
You can always just slide in Tyrone Taylor here. It
is your job for six weeks and he's not gonna

(01:19:20):
help you, but he's not gonna hurt you, right, He's
gonna hit you know, two thirty to forty home run
here and there, and he's gonna play great defense. And
that's why guys like Tyrone Taylor have jobs year after
year after year.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
Yeah, and they'll collect vensions and yeah, it wasn't a
sight against Tyrone Taylor. Me wonder, with all the talent
they have, why do they need per say Tyrone Taylor.
I think.

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
I'm guessing if Carson what but three point eight million
dollars for the Mets should be nothing, right, So my
guess is the best case scenario is that Tyron Taylor
gets one hundred and fifty at bats because everybody else's
Carson Binge has come up and is playing well, Jet
Williams has come up and played well, and one of

(01:20:12):
the other kids. My guess is that's that is this
the great kind of win for the Mets, And they
would have then spent three point four million dollars as
an insurance policy in case something goes sideways. I'm guessing
that's what they're thinking.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
Yeah, it makes sense. I can't argue with that, but yeah,
those are those are the two guys that I think
we should be interested in as far as sleepers, Williams
and Benji Timmy's.

Speaker 1 (01:20:40):
Take another breaker and do our final system. We're going
to do one out of the two, the Philadelphia Phillies
be But that, Timmy, we.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
Talked too much, apparently, apparently that you'd see that that
or our clocks moved too quickly. Okay, I haven't either
option not yet.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
Maybe so it's finding my Laurie and I always listen
to podcasts as we're going to sleep, and she put
in a podcast on our town and it's called, uh,
it's Marstown and our little town up in New Jersey
and it's some local guys doing a podcast. Tell me
it was the worst thing I'd ever heard in my life.
They were interviewing some guy that had lived in town

(01:21:27):
for the for seventy years and was talking about a
restaurant that used to be a market where he went
and bought bubble gum and got yelled at by his
teacher for chewing gum. And I'm like, this is not
a podcast, this is this is why are we listening
to this? It was awful?

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
Yeah, yeah, that's yeah, yeah, that doesn't sound like a
lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (01:21:50):
Now, by the way, watching The American Revolution, the Ken
Burns American Revolutionary documentary, and we're in Marstown. Now, so
after the Battle of Trenton, which was I think the
first victory by the by the rebels, they headed up
to Marstown and wintered there, uh, and then plucked off

(01:22:12):
all of the British people who were trying to make
it up the hill towards Martin. So little, our little
town was getting some publicity. But we also we also
learned tim and I don't know if you know this
about American and Canadian history, that that the the rebels
the Americans invaded Canada. So a lot of people don't

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know this so easily took over Montreal. Apparently Montreal just
kind of, you know, said okay, sure, come on in.
And then they got up to Quebec City and pretty
much got annihilated. I mean they just Quebec City were
able to withstand the rebels coming in. The rebels didn't
know what they were doing, and uh, I guess the

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Canadians and the British just fought them back and defeated them.
And it actually set the the American revolutionaries back for
quite a while as they tried to recover from that.
I don't know if you knew that about American history,
but that's what happened.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
Yeah, and we burnt the Waite host.

Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
You burnt the White House? Yeah, I don't know, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
The Waite host. Yeah, the White Hosse got burnt to
the ground.

Speaker 1 (01:23:20):
And Canadians did that. I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
Yeah, going, well, not Canadians at that point in time,
but people who were calling Canada home. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
Wow, Well I can't talk to you anymore, Timmy. You
burnt down our White House. What doesn't exist? Right, at
least only part of that exists.

Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
Well, you'd probably cheer if I burnt down the ballroom
and put the roses rose garden back. But that's either
here or there right.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
By the way. I mean, not to get political, but
as faulting over the rose garden, seriously, seriously, roses. That
was If anybody's ever been to the White House, the
rose garden was beautiful. I mean, and I I can't
believe they did that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
Yeah, that's that's a part of the history that shouldn't
have changed.

Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
Yeah, I mean, it was nice.

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
It was nice.

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
So what if you know there was muddy out there?
You would do press conferences when it was muddy.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
So, I mean, how would you say roses are red,
violets are Black destroying the garden, showed nothing but attacked.

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
Wow, look at Timmy with his uh, all right to me.
Let's get to the Philadelphia Phillies. Phillies could lose several
players of free agency, including Kyle Schwarber, jt Romoto. Do
they resign any of these guys that or do they
try to get younger? Do they bring in guys from

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the minor leagues? What do you think the Phillies are
up to?

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
I think they're going to resign both, Okay. And if
you look at the free agent options at catcher and
you look at what Philly has in their system, oh,
ok Real Muto is the best bet, Okay by a
long shot. You're talking Victor Carrattini is probably the next,
or Gary Sanchez. You know there is not much available

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at catcher, Okay. And you look at Kyle Schwarber, where
you're gonna find the fifty six homers and one hundred
and thirty two RBIs even stole ten bases? Okay, you're not.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
No? Do they do they go with Auto Kemp? I
don't think they have any minor leaguers that can step
in and fill those positions, not internally, so they don't.
I'm sorry, No, I'm thinking that. Yeah, they're going to
re sign both.

Speaker 1 (01:25:42):
Yeah, I hadn't thought much about the catching situation. I
think Shawn is Marshawn is the guy that they're going
to go with. He was, okay, it was a pretty
good minor league player. I mean, clearly J t Romoto
is not the same guy. But I can't imagine the
the Phillies going to war without Kyle Schwarber. And he's

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going to cost a fortune. He's a bar's client, et cetera.
But I mean, this is a team that still thinks
they can compete in a championship level team. If they
don't reassign Kyle Schwarber, a team doesn't look very good.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
Tim well Otto Camp is your d H under those circumstances.
And you know it's the same with the Yeah, their
backup catcher would be Garrett Stubbs. Remember remember him from
the Arizona Fall League. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, that

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they just they don't have anybody. Either they re up
with these guys or they take a very very serious hit.
And I don't think you could call them without both
of those players. I don't think you can call them
a serious contender in that division.

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
Yeah, they might be able to get by without J.
T Romulta, but I don't think they can get by
without Kyle Schwarber. They need they need somebody else in
the middle of that line up besides Bryce Harper, and
quite frankly, Kyle Schwerber might be more important than Bryce Harper.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
Yeah. I agree. Yeah, that's why I have both resigning
with Philly. Somehow finding a way to make it work.

Speaker 1 (01:27:18):
So I guess. And my second question, I know Dombrowski
always finds a way, and he usually trades all of
his young players away to get other guys. But you're
thinking with al jt Romoto or a proximity of jt
Romoto and Kyle Schwarber, they're not going to be a
playoff contender in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
No, and on top of that, you look at the outfield,
Okay and Castellanos, there's a good chance that he's going
to be traded, possibly even Olright released Dobrowski. When he
was asked if there was any weight to the trade
rumors surrounding Castlelan, Dobrowski said, we'll see what happens. Now.

(01:28:03):
That doesn't seem like a real that's not good, is it? No,
that is not good? You know. So you're looking at
Philly next year. Okay, going right now, if they move Castellanos,
that means they would be going into next year with
their number one outfielder being Brandon Marsh and their number

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two and three outfielders being blank and blank, one of
which I think is going to be Justin Crawford.

Speaker 1 (01:28:34):
We'll get to that in a minute. Maybe talk to
Castellanos first.

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
This is the guy.

Speaker 1 (01:28:40):
Yeah, let me let me tell you what the data
says here. This is a guy that's never hit never
hit the ball hard. He's always been a heavy leverage guy,
and that's where the power has come from. And we've
learned with advanced metrics, as a player gets older and
doesn't have the huge exit velocity US ex of lass,

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he is the fourteenth percentile. He hit the ball eighty
seven point eight miles an hour average eggs of velocity
with an older player. That's I mean, that's why he's
got seventeen on runs and that number is going to
continue to go down. The speed is at average. He's
not a very good defender. Chase rates in the three percentile,
so ninety seven percent of hitters, Chase less than Nick Cassiana.

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He's got a five point four percent walk rate. Let's see,
his on base percentage was two ninety four. This is
not a good player, Tim.

Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
No, it's not. And I don't believe I could be wrong.
I don't think he was too happy about the fact
that he said a little bit should in September. He
should have said I hate it. But again, everything is
adding up to the fact that I don't think he's
going to be on the opening day roster of the

(01:29:59):
Philadelphia Philly that's my that's my gut feeling on you.

Speaker 1 (01:30:02):
I'm just looking at the data and this is this
is not a major league baseball player from what he
did last season. Now, can he get into better shape. Maybe,
but he's gonna be thirty four to mean, it just
might be he's just at the end of the line here.

Speaker 2 (01:30:18):
I think that's a possibility. Yes, I agree. Okay, So
that means we have we have some serious holes in
that outfield, big time.

Speaker 1 (01:30:29):
Okay, and tell me so you say that Justin Crawford
is going to be one of those guys.

Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
Well, right now, if they move Gastolano's the only returning
outfielder is leftfielder Brandon Marsh. They got to come up
with two outfielders. I think Justin Crawford is going to
be one of those two outfielders they're trying apparently to get.
Uh uh oh, here's.

Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
Some very okay. Eight Miller's the guy, right, I mean,
Aiden Miller is the guy that you won. He made
it up to double A, he made it up the
Triple A last season. He's yeah, he's he's your he's
a shortstop. To see if he's played in the outfield.
Hold it for a second. Now, I've got my super

(01:31:19):
fast computer, Tommy, so uh okay, I can even go
to spow track and my my computer won't crait. It
doesn't kill me. So, uh let me get a Baseball
Reference and we put in Aid Miller Aiden Miller.

Speaker 2 (01:31:35):
Is it a N.

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
Miller A I D A A. You got to spell
it exactly right with Baseball Reference or it doesn't like it.
So all right, let's see what his uh game logs
last year? Shortstop short stop, short stop, shortstop, shortstop short
and only played shortstop.

Speaker 2 (01:31:56):
No OUTFKA. That can change. Yeah, when you've got Trey
Turner a short stop, it's going to have to change, right.

Speaker 1 (01:32:04):
It's going to have to change unless they move Trey
Turner back to the outfield, which is a possibility, but
I would think they wouldn't, so I would assume Aiden
Miller's if if the Phillies are smart, which they are,
they'll probably start Aiden Miller in spring training in the
outfield because they've got to bring him up and that's
his that's his route to coming up.

Speaker 2 (01:32:26):
Yeah, and right now, there's plenty of opportunities in the
Philly outfield. That's why. That's why I I'm convinced that
Justin Crawford's going to break camp.

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
Let me give you another name, Tim Okay, Gabriel Rincones Junior.

Speaker 2 (01:32:44):
Gabriel N. Cone Junior. Don't know much about him.

Speaker 1 (01:32:48):
But interesting player. I've been writing about him for years.

Speaker 2 (01:32:52):
He's a.

Speaker 1 (01:32:54):
Triple A Caber and Cones. Actually, did he make a
major league appearance last season? No, he did not triple
A last year. Eighteen home runs, twenty one stolen bases,
a two forty batting average, but a three seventy one
base percentage four thirty slug So this is a guy

(01:33:14):
that had one hundred and nineteen games and triple A
and I think he is probably a bit more complete
player than Justin Crawford. Justin Crawford is got the higher upside,
but Justin Crawford hits the ball in the ground a ton,
so he's got to get the ball elevated. But I
mean it's an eighty grade runner as well and a

(01:33:35):
great defender. But I like Gabri and Cones so jor
so don't forget about him.

Speaker 2 (01:33:41):
You know. And after we've mentioned all these guys, they
got Brian Delacruz in the minors, okay, And how could
I be so silly as to not mention the fact
that they have Pedro Leon? Forgot about that? Yeah? I
try to forge's you're.

Speaker 1 (01:33:59):
Jacob Marcy of twenty twenty six, Jacob Marcy. Let's see.

Speaker 2 (01:34:03):
Oh, I mean they're gonna need outfield help, and they've
got outfielders that I think can.

Speaker 1 (01:34:09):
I And I think think that's some internal options here
as well. And I think you're right, Cassianas might not be.
He might not be in their plans, particularly if he
gets to spring training and things just are not any better.
I mean, that's just a guy that just looks like
he's done to me. Let's let's let's pivot to Andrew Paynter. Yes,

(01:34:29):
give me your at first. I did a podcast on
the Philadelphia Phillies this past week, I think Friday maybe,
and one of the thoughts I had about Andrew Painters
I took a look at his pitch mix, and he's
always had a great curveball, even prior to Tommy John surgery.
But they had him not throwing his curveball very much

(01:34:52):
and throwing his slider a lot more. And his slider
was a little bit batting practice slider, so it was
it got hit hard. So I don't know what the
Phillies were thinking. Because Andrew Painter did not have a
good minor league season last season. I think everybody thought
he'd be up and it just didn't happen. And I'm
wondering if they could get him back to throwing that

(01:35:13):
curveball more, and you might get back to the old
Andrew Painter that we saw in twenty twenty four where
it looked like he was going to break camp with
the Phillies, not as opposed to the twenty twenty five
post Tommy John surgery guy. So I just throw that
out there as an FYI little scouting report. But what
is your thought on nies pitched, era and strikeouts?

Speaker 2 (01:35:35):
Okay? As when I look and you know, you look
at the five forty in the one fifty five whip. Okay,
the area and whip from last year at Triple A.
How much of that is simply because of him trying
to learn a new pitch. And I'm going to say
a fair trunk of it, okay, based on you know
what you just said, right, So how much weight do

(01:35:56):
you put in that? I don't put a whole lot
of weight at all. Oh, if they if they were
trying to have him develop a third pitch and work
on it, the era and whip, just throw them out
the window. Really, it wasn't the third pitch.

Speaker 1 (01:36:12):
It was it was a replacement pitch for a really
good pitch. So they were trying to get him to
throw sliders more than curveball. And what's weird is usually
sliders put more pressure on your elbow than the curveball does.

Speaker 2 (01:36:25):
So curball.

Speaker 1 (01:36:27):
So you're thinking, like why did they do that? And
I wasn't getting nobody talked to me about that. I
wasn't able to figure out like what was what were
people thinking? You know kind of the rationale why the
Phillies went in that direction, but let's see if they
change that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:44):
Yeah, I when I look at the raw and now
I think he's going to throw one hundred and thirty
five innings with an era around four and I think
we're looking at more to strayo and an inning. So
one hundred and thirty one hundred and thirty five strikeouts.

Speaker 1 (01:37:01):
So how many? How many innings?

Speaker 2 (01:37:03):
One hundred and thirty five?

Speaker 1 (01:37:04):
So you think he's gonna he's gonna play meaningful, He's
gonna pitch meaningful innings.

Speaker 2 (01:37:08):
And for the Phillies, well, they got a situation with
Zach Wheeler, Okay, where you're looking at basically, he's looking
at a recovery time that could be six to eight months. Okay.
Whenever I see something that says six to eight, I
wipe out the six, okay and just go with the eight. Okay.

(01:37:30):
I lean towards the ladder of those two days, which
brings you to the end of me. Okay. So you're
looking at you're looking at two months replacement. And then
in your fifth starters, ty On Walker, how how many? Yeah,
how long is ty On Walker going to stay in
that rotation if if Painter is there and Zach Wheeler,

(01:37:52):
so I think Wheeler's going to be a full I
think he's gonna pitch full time next year, and when
you look at.

Speaker 1 (01:37:59):
He might have to unless you.

Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
Look at Painters numbers from last year. He threw almost
one hundred and twenty innings last year, so I don't
think one hundred and thirty five is I don't think
it's outrageous based on what you pitched last year.

Speaker 1 (01:38:15):
Yeah, if I could, just if I could just add
on to Zach Wheeler. The history is not kind, particularly
pictures coming back from TOS surgery. It's it's not look
at the data, guys, it's really really struggle and many
of them's careers are just they're done. I don't know
exactly why. I don't know the medical reasons for that,

(01:38:37):
but maybe things have changed and gotten better and it
is Zach Wheeler. I don't think there's ever been as
prominent a picture as Zach Wheeler that's had a thoracic
outlet syndrome surgery, and maybe we'll find out when maybe
these other guys just weren't that good. So hoping the
best for Zach Wueler. I do have them in a
dynasty links. I got my fingers crossed, but I don't know.

(01:38:58):
I'm kind of with Tim. I'm a little leary of
Wheeler going into the season, and I think Painter's gonna
get a long, long look.

Speaker 2 (01:39:08):
Yeah, and Wheeler, you know, just the natural aging process.
He's gonna be thirty six next year, returning from a
rather serious surgery and returning I'm thinking probably sometime in June. Okay,
that's my guestimate. Okay, missing missing at least a third,
maybe closer to a half the season at thirty six. Yeah,

(01:39:31):
it's it's gonna be tough. I think when you start
looking at Zach Wheeler and you start looking at his
his draft position, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't see Zach
Wheeler being on very many of my teams next year.

Speaker 1 (01:39:46):
Riche Plust Zach Wheeler say that twenty twenty six was
going to be his last season. He wasn't gonna he
was going to retire at the end of the season.
And I mean he's had a lot of injuries. If
you recalled a really difficult Tommy John surgery was with
the Mets.

Speaker 2 (01:40:01):
He missed about three years. If I'm not mistaken. You know,
he ended up with a myriad of problems after that,
Tommy John, I think it was almost there was a
brace in there afterwards or something. There's just a mess
of injuries and right now Wheelers going as a strong
number three. No, that's an easy pass, easy pass for me.

Speaker 1 (01:40:26):
Yeah, I think we covered the fourth. I think we've
covered all the Philly questions except maybe even the sleepers
as well. So give me a sleeper for any organization,
just just to be just to have clarity. Who were
your sleepers?

Speaker 2 (01:40:40):
Uh, Justin Crawford and Aiden Miller one and two. That's
and I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:40:48):
Gonna throw in gab orwyn Cones Junior. Okay, throw that
in for mister McLeod and uh, you know I love
Jason Justin Crawford. I'm in a couple of dynasty leagues.
So I got my fingers crossed there. I think Eighten
Miller's the home run there. I think that the Phillies
have got a findal way because again I did the research, Timmy,

(01:41:08):
from August first to the end of the season. In fact,
I'm going to tell you what Aiden Aiden Miller did.
I think he hit three fifty something with eight home runs.
It was I mean, he shoved it at the end
of the season. It wasn't very good at the beginning
of the season. But let me tell you August first

(01:41:29):
three fifty six batting average, six home runs, and twenty
two stolen bases before the before August he hit I
mean it was terrible. I mean two twenty two. So, yeah,
he was a different guy at the second part of
the season, once he got a little bit more comfortable

(01:41:49):
with Double A. He did spend the last ten days
in Triple A. I think we see him by May.

Speaker 2 (01:41:57):
Yeah. The only reasons that I'm putting Crawford ahead of
them isn't it's not uh uh, it's not an indicator
of his long term potential. I just sent Crawford, with
his four hundred and forty at bats last year at
Triple A, is going to get first shot, and me,
being a consummate speed or those forty six stolen bases

(01:42:20):
lipo'd at me and say, yeah, cheap speed, I'll take it.

Speaker 1 (01:42:25):
Yeah, Yeah, it could be this year's Chandler Simpson for sure.
Let's take a look at where these guys are going.
Good back, Yeah, second base at the moment, let me
go to let me go. So let's do outfield justin Crawford.
Let's see Crawford is going five eleven, the eighty eighth

(01:42:46):
outfielder off the board. So five eleven divided by fifteen
thirty fifth round, tim That seems really nice.

Speaker 2 (01:42:57):
That seems really nice to me too. That's that that
that seems to me like Simpson was last year, the
same sort. You know, there's opportunity at that adp okay
to get yourself a nice return, and then a year
from that will be cursing the fact that we have
to pay for him.

Speaker 1 (01:43:12):
Right, Gabril ren Cones, there's sixties, sixty or seventies draft studies.
I've only been drafted twice ADP of seven forty seven,
So don't sleep on Gabril re and Cones, everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:43:25):
And what about Miller.

Speaker 1 (01:43:28):
Miller is going, I don't see Miller. A Miller wouldn't
be an outfield by my bad sure stuff. Yeah, let
me switch over to all positions, type in Miller, Mason Miller,
Bryce Miller, Aiden Miller five point fifty two.

Speaker 2 (01:43:47):
So yeahhy thirty thirty seventh the shortstop off the board.

Speaker 1 (01:43:53):
Yeah, so that's the divided by said, thirty seventh round.
So yeah, that seems awfully, awfully nice to me, Tim.

Speaker 2 (01:44:02):
Yeah, I was gonna say, how about I played the
game with you, uh, Aiden Miller or Joey or Chiez.

Speaker 1 (01:44:10):
I'll think I'll take Aidon Miller.

Speaker 2 (01:44:12):
Josh Smith.

Speaker 1 (01:44:14):
With Texas. Yeah, where' Josh Smith? Where's he going.

Speaker 2 (01:44:22):
Thirty fifth thirty fifth round? Uh No, he's at five
twenty four.

Speaker 1 (01:44:29):
Okay, I'll take Aidon Miller.

Speaker 2 (01:44:31):
I'll take the upside j JP Crawford at thirty four.

Speaker 1 (01:44:35):
It just depends, you know, if I get caught out
and need a you know, a middle infielder, maybe it's
it's yeah, I'd probably take So if you're talking draft
and Hall, I love the upside of Aiden Miller, so
I would probably jump on him a little early and
then hope to get JP Crawford a little later, just
to fill in until uh until aid I would try

(01:44:56):
to play that game. I'd have to take a look
at the board, but I would be being ahead of
the thirty six round for Aiden Miller. I would definitely
prefer Aiden Miller over Travis Bazana, you know, just going
to that same area. I would definitely have that Spencer
Joe right please.

Speaker 2 (01:45:14):
Yeah, you know, you know it shocks me when I'm
looking at shortstop Anthony Volpe currently thirty first shortstop off
the board with an ADP of three seventy three.

Speaker 1 (01:45:27):
Wait a minute, he's not He might start the season
on the IL.

Speaker 2 (01:45:37):
I don't know. But you're looking at at three seventy
three divided by fifteen. You're looking awful. Late. Yeah, they're
saying he's not gonna be an everyday player right now
is a consensus I think, which could possibly be.

Speaker 1 (01:45:50):
I think he had surgery. Let's take a look at that,
shall we. Okay, Yeah, Anthony Volpi, I see so much stuff.
I don't know what's kind of You can't tell anymore
with social media, what's what's real and what's not.

Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
Yeah, as a matter of fact, he did. He's going
to be beginning the season on the IL.

Speaker 1 (01:46:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:46:08):
What kind of surgeon are they? Partially during librum? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:46:12):
There you go. Yeah, so that's probably why he's being depressed.

Speaker 2 (01:46:16):
Is April or saying, yeah, so I.

Speaker 1 (01:46:19):
Wanted to talk since we were just I mentioned Spencer Jones.
I'm sorry, I get totally carried away here. Remember we
talked about him midway through the season when he came
up to Triple A, how he was hitting every every
other day he hit a home run and he was
playing a lot better. From August first to the end
of the season, he hit two ten Uh he had

(01:46:45):
six home runs, but he had eighty three strikeouts in
one hundred and seventy six one hundred and ninety six
plate appearances.

Speaker 2 (01:46:54):
Somewhere Rob Deer is blushing.

Speaker 1 (01:46:58):
Eighty three divided by one night is forty two percent
of the time he struck out.

Speaker 2 (01:47:05):
That's a rather big number.

Speaker 1 (01:47:08):
Yeah, Tim actually laughed. It's hard to get Tim to
laugh like that.

Speaker 2 (01:47:10):
Tim laughed out l Yeah, there was an lol there. Yeah,
that's uh wow. I'm just thinking multiply that by three
and you get yeah, two fifty plus Yeah, two hundred
and fifty or so. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:47:25):
This isn't the major League. So so I just wanted
to make sure because the Yankees system comes out in
a couple of weeks and I talk about this, I mean,
you got to be careful with some of these guys.
Small sample sizes work. I mean, I remember all the
Yankee fans bring up Spencer Jones, spring up, spring up
Spencer Jones, and the strikeouts are still huge now, their

(01:47:48):
speed and power is also huge. So just know your parameters.
That's the only thing you can say when you decide
on Spencer Jones versus Aid and Miller, which are going
now within a couple of slots from each other. Miller's
the yeah better player.

Speaker 2 (01:48:03):
Yeah. Adam Sandler sort of brought it up in the
Wedding Singer very eloquently. Things that could have been brought
to my attention yesterday in Canal letters. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:48:12):
Great, great movie.

Speaker 2 (01:48:13):
Yeah. Yeah, you don't want to Yeah, you don't want
to be like those numbers. I I have no shares
in dynasty leagues and I'm okay with that.

Speaker 1 (01:48:24):
Yeah, I don't either. I mean, as you know, I've
seen them. I've seen him play a ton and i mean, yeah, look,
the speed and power is real, and there's more speed
there than you think. He is a he is a
physical specimen to watch. I mean it's like, Wow, that's
the way athletes are supposed to look. And then you
just see the link of the swing. It's it's gotta
be the slowest swing I've ever seen, just because it's visually,

(01:48:47):
because it's so long, it looks like it's taken him
forever to swing through it. It's it's tough to watch, man,
it really is.

Speaker 2 (01:48:54):
Yeah, I uh, who did I see that? Oh? Bj Upton? Okay,
the first time I saw him, you know, he he
sort of jogged, it was more like a lope. Okay, Well,
he looked like just a monster, like a gazelle. Okay,

(01:49:16):
heading out onto the field. And I'm looking at this
guy and I'm thinking, man, oh man, there is a
physical you know, a total complete physical specimen. He looked
like a baseball player. And then his first at bat
I think he struck out. I think his second at
bad he struck out. And yeah, how how quickly I

(01:49:38):
went from man, this guy is exceptional to watch too. Well, yeah, okay,
there's some challenges. And when I think of my perception
of you know, of dj Upton and you know now Spencer,
it's sort of the same thing, like, you know, everything

(01:50:00):
is there, but then it's not, you know what I mean,
it's looks can be just eving.

Speaker 1 (01:50:06):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's funny, it's it's it's always
people want to say that baseball front offices are dumb,
and you know, it's always you can always it's fans
love to blame somebody, so it always goes on they
don't know what they're doing and so forth. But the
Yankees are really good. I mean, their analytics department is
second the none. You know, I will admit that I

(01:50:27):
don't know what the Colorado Rockies are doing.

Speaker 2 (01:50:29):
I get that day they don't know either.

Speaker 1 (01:50:33):
But the Phillies are strong. I mean, they don't do
everything right the Yankees. So when they you know, when
when Spencer Jones gets into that role that he is
hitting the home run every other day, the Yankees know
what's going on. They they they understand the limitations and
at some point you've got to trust the process a
little bit and just say, hey, this guy needs more time.

(01:50:56):
So I think that's the one thing I've learned with
these young kids is, besides the Rockies, maybe a couple
of other organizations, trust the people running those teams that
they know more about it than you do.

Speaker 2 (01:51:07):
You the fan, Yeah, well and they do they do yes, Yeah,
which as simple as that. Yeah, that's a lot more.

Speaker 1 (01:51:15):
Which God, I hope the Orioles are right, And not
for Grayson Rodriguez a sake, but for fans of the
Orioles that there's something really wrong with his with his
elbow or his shoulder. And I think, you know, you
common sense and just trusting the organization that they they
clearly must know something. If not, then it's you know,

(01:51:37):
total it's total stupidity there. It's his negligence almost for
for moving that guy. But you have to hope that
they know what they're doing well.

Speaker 2 (01:51:49):
And you know what, while they are doing what they
are doing, rich Jackson, Holiday Gunner Henderson and Adlie Richmond
are all one year closer to free agency and saying
goodbye to Baltimore. Yeah. Yeah, the window opens, that the
window closes, and we're now in the closer to the

(01:52:12):
window closing than opening stage with some of these players,
and they they better figure it out somehow or they'll
just be repeating the whole process again in a couple
of years as everybody heads to free agency.

Speaker 1 (01:52:25):
Yeah. It's it's I mean, the Oriols that really blew
it last year in my opinion, and if they don't
make some changes here in the off season. If you're
a bott An Orioles fan like my wife is, I mean,
it's this this period is going to go up and
smoke just going to go up and smoke.

Speaker 2 (01:52:42):
And that'd be a shame because yeah, you're looking at
i won't say generational type, but you're looking at some
exceptionally strong players that are going to enjoy their best
years elsewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:52:57):
Yeah, they should just move Connor Henderson and try to
rebuild that team, fire the front office, bring in a
new front office team, sell Gunner Henderson and start over
again and come up with a new philosophy. Because it's just,
you know, it just didn't work.

Speaker 2 (01:53:10):
So yeah, like I said, tough, tough on the fans.

Speaker 1 (01:53:16):
That is a wrap. My friend, tell me what you're
having for dinner.

Speaker 2 (01:53:21):
Uh, I'm actually I'm actually working tonight, so I'm gonna
have a very late dinner. I'm probably just gonna grab
a pizza. I'm working from six to eight tonight. I've
gotta I've got to take a sixty mile trip down
the highway to pick up a nurse who's been working
hard all day. So I'm gonna head down and just
grab a pizza on the way back. Probably. Wow, nothing

(01:53:43):
good to report in the food department. Pizza par No,
that's next weekend. Actually, Jordy's going across and we're doing
the border bar pizza tomorrow next Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:53:58):
So that's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:53:59):
We had a Yeah, it is cool, but no, I'm
I'm I'm earning my keep tonight. Rich.

Speaker 1 (01:54:06):
Wow, I didn't realize I haven't worked, doune on. I
kept you overtime here, so hopefully you grab a quid
nap before you need to get out of it. You
got an hour and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:54:14):
So I came, I dropped her off this morning at
seven o'clock, and then I came back and I slept
for a couple hours before I went through the notes.
So yeah, I've already had I've already got my my
quality power nap in this.

Speaker 1 (01:54:28):
Timost sounds like you're an uber driver today.

Speaker 2 (01:54:31):
Well, we have situations where there are some rural hospitals
affiliated with our local hospital, okay, and they're they're small
hospitals and occasionally they need they need some staffing assistance,
so they will use from the main hospital. Uh, nurses

(01:54:52):
will go down and work workshifts at some of the
smaller community hospitals affiliated with ours, and they need transportation.
And that's where I get called into play.

Speaker 1 (01:55:05):
So let me ask a question before I get off there. So,
so you dropped her off at seven, So you picked
her up at six. I'm assuming something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:55:12):
Yeah, I picked her up at six, Yeah, and dropped
her off at five after seven and then drove back.

Speaker 1 (01:55:17):
So she's gonna work twelve hour shift or eleven hours
something like that? Correct?

Speaker 2 (01:55:22):
Correct war shift?

Speaker 1 (01:55:25):
What does the great Tim McLeod do when the card
you strike up a conversation with her? I mean, what
do you what are you going to do?

Speaker 2 (01:55:35):
It depends on the person you got. You gotta know
who you're the The young lady that I am driving
down there today, we've known each other for a long time,
so we're always catching up on life, this set and
the next thing. Yeah, in the in the morning. In
the morning, Uh, she generally sleeps. She trusts my trusts
my driving, so she usually sleeps on the way down,
on the way back, we'll we'll discuss her day in

(01:55:58):
life and this set and the next Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:56:00):
Good, Yeah, does you know you're sleeping as well in
the morning as well.

Speaker 2 (01:56:08):
That's what I said to Trip, So I said, you know,
I just don't sleep too hard. Okay, starring from the
driver's side, you might want to like use your elbow
to wake me up.

Speaker 1 (01:56:20):
Okay, She just laughed.

Speaker 2 (01:56:21):
It's okay, tim Yeah, where gonna you just find with this? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:56:26):
So I Nigel used to pick me up when I
drove to England all the time, and he would drive
me an hour and a half from from Heathrow up
to where I was, and I mean I flew all night.
I was tired, and he and I became buddies because
I saw him all the time and he would always
want to talk to me in the morning. And all
I wanted to do, Timmy, was try to get another
half hour sleep if I could find it. And then

(01:56:49):
finally he figured it out after years. I'm like, because
he was too nice of a guy for me to say,
can't just let me sleep? You know, I just I
just and if finally he said, let me let you sleep,
Oh thank god. And then we finally got into a pattern.
So when he would take me back, we used to
be in the late in the evening I would be
I would be awake and we would talk then. But

(01:57:09):
in the morning.

Speaker 2 (01:57:10):
Yeah right, so well you know what, the guy obviously
failed reading the room. Okay. One of the first things
you have to if you're driving people, which I you
got to read the room. Okay, nobody wants to talk
okay about baseball. Okay, at six o'clock in the morning,

(01:57:32):
going in for a twelve hour shift. They want to sleep.
So you'll let you let people sleep when they want
to talk. You talking just gave Like Nigel might have
been the greatest guy in the world, but he did
not read a room well because he would have figured
out you wanted to sleep real quick. Right.

Speaker 1 (01:57:48):
I love I missed that guy. He was such a
nice man. He would tell me he would he was.
He was a taxi driver. That's that was just where
you know, lemo driver wouldver you want to call it.
And but he he love to play golf, and he
said he every August he would go to Arizona and
play golf. I go, Nigel, it's like one hundred and

(01:58:12):
twenty degrees in Arizona. What are you What are you doing?
He goes, well, I mean I stay at a nice resort,
I play golf at four thirty five o'clock in the morning,
and I'm done by, you know, by nine o'clock. And
something that usually costs three or four hundred dollars for
a room, I get it for eighty nine dollars. That's
that's what that was. This that was his whole like

(01:58:33):
routine like and I'm like, oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:58:37):
And the rest of the day sits around, sits around
the pool with it, drink drink, and he talks about
driving you to the airport.

Speaker 1 (01:58:46):
You beat the system. I mean he was playing golf
at five o'clock in the morning and then paying eighty
nine dollars a night for four star hotel. I thought
that was great. Wow, it's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (01:58:58):
Yeah, that's that's the way to live if you can
do it, Rich, It really is.

Speaker 1 (01:59:02):
Yeah, Tommy, it's a wrap, my friend. I'll let you
go so you can get on off to your activities
and uh, Tim, well, we'll talk more on Sunday. Everybody, Halloween,
Thanksgiving us this week. Everybody. Happy holidays.

Speaker 2 (01:59:15):
Yes, Happy Thanksgiving to all my American friends and rich
be safe, be well, and looking forward to our discussion
next weekend.
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