2271 - Fantasy Discussion of NL East Prospects - Braves and Marlins

Tim interviews Rich about the Braves and Marlins prospects.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Pretty salutations everyone for twelveth Welcome to Fantasy Baseball Live.
Today is the thirtieth of November, Timmy. We are finished
another month in the year. We've got thirty one days
left in twenty twenty six will be in the books.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah, it just seems like yesterday we were talking about drafting,
then we were talking about Opening Day, and now we're
starting that process all over again.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
So today we're gonna be talking prospects in l East,
Atlanta Braves and the Miami Marlins. And this will be
so we're recording on Sunday. This will come out on
Tuesday for everyone. But why don't we talk about this?
I mean, last time I talked to you were threatening
that you were going to join an NFBC league, and
last I talked to you having trouble getting signed up.

(01:13):
Did you get that resolved? Do you have a slot?

Speaker 2 (01:17):
I haven't got it resolved yet, But I've worked, as
I was mentioning when we were talking before before we
came on here, I've worked nine in the past ten days,
so I really haven't been over overly dedicated to getting
this resolved. The next four days, I'm off and I'm
just going to send it an email to Greg Ambrosius,

(01:40):
who runs the show there, and I'm sure we'll get
it resolved and probably short order would be my guest.
So no, I'm just going to get it done. I'm
off Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, so.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Both three done.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah exactly. Yeah. Like I said, I'm sort of sort
of glad I didn't get it resolved last week because
drafting from my phone is not the ideal situation for
this guy.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
No. No, that's fun, that's so funny. Are you going
to do the four hour the two hour one?

Speaker 2 (02:14):
I think I'm going to do the four hour one.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
And you have any way switches to yet just a warning,
it does switch to two hours after the thirtieth round,
so just FYI so and I think so, and I
think the other one switches the one hour after the
thirtieth round, so uh so my advice is to take
your time.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah. Well, we're right in the middle of signing period,
right yeah. Yeah, So ideally, if you got your player,
you should pick speed the thing up. But I'm sure
a good chunk of the people play that game where
they wait till the last minute. In the event that
somebody gets signed, somebody gets moved around. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
and yeah it makes ends. Even though personally I don't

(03:02):
like slow drafts. I'd rather you know what I would
love to do. I'd love to do one of these
fifty rounders a minute on the clock. Pitter patter, let's
get Wow, that's what I would love to do.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Well, then maybe you should do the two power one man.
Then that that's gonna get more, it'll be quicker.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah. But if I'm committing to a slow draft, does
it really make that much of a difference.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, yeah, sor I'm sort of copying. You know what,
if somebody ever comes out and does one of these okay,
on on a sixty second clock, I'm in. That's even for.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
The even for rounds forty, That's that's tough. Man. That's
a long draft.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Hey, you gotta you gotta build your queue and you
can't play around. You might be looking at three three
and a half hours. But again, I always, I always
feel I understand slow drafts, especially in dynasty startups. Yet yeah,
but when I start to look at slow draft I'm
old school. I look at it almost as if it's cheating,

(04:04):
Like you've got enough time to get fourteen people to
analyze each pick you're making. Should you want ahead in
that direction? I don't know it. Shouldn't it The draft
process count for a little bit more than four hours
of your life to make a decision. I don't know. Maybe,

(04:24):
like I said, maybe I'm just an old school and
cranky and crouching. I'm yelling at clouds. But I like
the idea of being on a short clock.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Well, I mean, I think a lot of people agree
with you that you do your draft prep, you set
your queue, and you're ready to go. I personally like
slow drafts. I think I'm lazy, and I like because
I like doing them very early before, you know, like
in first of January is when I do it, and
I don't know the board very well. So I like

(04:52):
learning the player poll as I'm going through the process.
So I haven't done my draft prep yet, at least
not a lot of it.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
So okay, I'm doing I'm doing mine with with every
chance I get to chat. I'm doing my litter rouse
every chance I get to interview you, Rich So thank you,
thank you for your contribution.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah, I've got to do I got to start on
my get uh cranking on my draft, my draft targets,
which usually comes out in December, and tomorrow starts December,
so I haven't written anything. I've started to do some
work on it, but so I have those all done
so that I'm going into my draft, my NFBC draft
at least with my targets and that that usually works

(05:35):
out pretty well. But I am finished. All the prospect
all the prospect work is done. I got a couple
more AI conversations to have this coming week on the
Arrangers and Mariners and get everything out there loaded up
on the Patreon site and on the on the prospect
through sixty one, and it'll be all finished, all done.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Good stuff. I'm I'm looking for. I want to get.
I want to get this draft going this week. I
want to I want to take a good look at
what's going on in the neighborhood, and I I want
I want a chance to own every NPB player that's
coming over this year in one league. So it could

(06:19):
be UH, it could be a rather interesting UH team
when it's all said and done.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Speaking of going maybe going the other way, UH, I
saw where Matt Manning signed with the Korean team.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
I'm not surprised. I haven't seen that one, but it
makes sense. A chance to rejuvenate, then rebuild his career
in Asia and then return to Major League baseball. Uh
Low And Diaz, by the way, signed in Korea.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Oh he signed back. Yeah, he signed a Matt manny
signed a one year deal with Samsung Lions of the
Korean Baseball as Organizations only twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, that's you know, and Diaz isn't old either. I
think he signed for one point five million. Okay, well
he's not. He probably shopped himself around, took a look.
He wasn't offered probably much more than a minor league
deal based on the one season, So why not take
the one and a half milk? Play every day? If
he has another season like he had last year, he'll

(07:21):
get considerably more heading into twenty twenty seven. So I
think it's a smart move.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
It's money in the bank, right.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
And money and don't they give those guys like accommodations
and it's pretty they play for They stay and play
for free, right, So I mean it's just money in
their pocket. Yeah, And.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
I know some players haven't enjoyed, but most players, if
you listen to the them, talk about their time in Asia,
they talk about a very, very in a positive manner favorably. So, hey,
why not if it? Yeah, did you want to play?
Do you want to play in the minors for the
next two years and get ignored? Or do you want

(08:11):
to take a chance in a different format of upping
your game and possibly returning to the show rather than
triple A where your injury fogger for the rest of
your career. Right, seems to be like a rather easy choice, right.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
I have a definite philosophy and opinion on this. I
believe you're you bloom where you're planted. So wherever you
are in a given stage of life, where physically, in
this case what we're talking about is Korea, you make
the best of it and the most of it, because
if you don't, you're you're you're losing the opportunity of

(08:47):
what the place might have a chance to offer you.
And who knows, you might you might meet the person
of your dreams there, you might have a career awakening,
you might learn something different. I mean, there's all kinds
of things baseball and non baseball related that could happen.
But a lot of people, I mean, I see this
all the time. They just can't wait to get back

(09:08):
to something they're comfortable with, and they wind up sitting
all day in their apartments staring at the walls, waiting
to get back. I just got to make it through
this year, got to make it through this two year
commitment that I'm here at a certain location, and that's
that's no way to live.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
So no, and you're also losing the opportunity to grow
as an individual.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Absolutely all of that.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah, and that's important, it really is. I'd like to
go over just so I could learn, man. I would
love to know how to use chopsticks. And I'm terrible
that them.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Well, you and me both, you know, this.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Small, small goal, but you know, he embrace where you are.
Good things can happen, can't they.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah. I remember I used to travel to Asia a lot,
and when I first went, the first couple of years,
I was scared to death, you know, scared of getting
sick and just it just was uncomfortable. And I would
spend a couple of weeks at a time there and
then I just at one point I said, this is stupid.
I'm missing out on these wonderful opportunities that most people
in the world don't get and I just started to

(10:16):
embrace everything. And to me, I had a blast. I
loved every minute I was there. After I kind of
got over this fear stuff. And then now wherever I go,
I just you know, it's just I enjoy the time
that I'm in a place or the time I'm in
a situation as much as I can, because that might
never happen again. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Well, I remember seeing pictures of you and Laurie. I
think it was in India. Yeah, and you were you
were dressed uh oh yeah, yeah, you were. You were
all dressed, just dressed up in the.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
In the that's right.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah, it was. It was cool, it really was. You
could tell you were having fun.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Oh it's great. Yeah, it just and but you just
have to embrace that. The same thing was true. I
used to go to I worked in England for ten
years of my life and was there once so one
week out of the month, and the same kind of thing.
The first couple of years, I stayed in the hotel
room or a department wherever it was. And then at
to some point I said, well, this is stupid. I mean,

(11:12):
I'm in a holy a completely different part of the world.
I need to take advantage of it, and I did
and thoroughly enjoyed my time, and I was sad when
it was over.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
And well, as a musician, the access to the club scene,
and you know, from a music point of view, you
could it was correctly. Yeah, you you probably had to blast,
you know, it was the young talent.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, I would always I'd spent a lot of nights
in London. My office was up in the suburbs, up
in a little place in another another town, probably about
an hour outside of Lona. But I always stay in
London on the way back and you go to clubs,
got the dinner, just enjoy the culture and everything it had,
and it was. It was wonderful and I haven't I'd

(11:55):
go back every five six years or something like that,
but there's that time was just great. Loved it.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, Tommy, let's stalk.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Let's talk prospects, my friend. So people come to here
on these special podcasts, and uh, I'm going to turn
it over to you. We're doing the Atlanta Braves and
Miami Martin. I thought the two most exciting systems. But
I'm sure your questions are going to be spot on
and we'll find some good stuff to talk about.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Oh, I've got some fun stuff for you, rich as
as I always as I always do. Or we don't
want it. We don't want you to leave today feeling bored. Okay,
I'm gonna try to take care of that challenge. Atlanta
Braves right up and stop the list. We get Jr. Richie. Uh,
he's just about ready. H Where do you like him
in drafting holds? Oh?

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Where is I do? Let's see where he's going to
drafting holds? Shall we? A lot of times these guys
are going anywhere? So I will tell you a lot
more JR. Richie. Jr. Richie is going six ninety three,
so he's been drafted in thirty two drafts out of
I ninety four. Wow, he's only drafted in a third
of the league's so he's after forty five. I like him. Damn, gimme,

(13:07):
gimmy Kim because look, the Braves do a really good
job at bringing up these young pitchers. They usually perform
well so and I like Jr. Richie as as a talent,
So yeah, I would take him forty six, forty seven
somewhere off the board.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
One thing, just just a heads up on the number
of drafts there is a slew right now rich of
gladiator leagues being drafted. Okay, so that is skewing the
pick rating. Okay, so if it, you've probably.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Got all the draft champions. Let me do that's twenty
five two, So twenty five leagues have have been done
in draft champions and Jr. Richie's been taking in every
one of those. That seems weird to me. I've pick
picked five to ninety four, so.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
He's still going late.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Yeah, so but let's see, so five ninety four divided
by fifteen is so he's going in the fortieth round.
So yeah, I still would grab him, you know, thirty
eight to forty two something like that.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah, okay, what do you figure for innings pitched ear A?

Speaker 1 (14:30):
I could see him. I could see him getting one hundred,
two hundred and twenty innings. I think you're seeing, you know,
a good number of starts there. I mean, he doesn't
have a job coming out of spring training, but guys
get hurt and provide he stays healthy, and I think
he could be an upper threes the four ear a
guy with a little lesson strikeout at ending in a

(14:52):
pretty good ratios and pretty good whip et cetera. I yeah,
I think he would. He could be a really nice
number six starter for you in these draft and whole leagues.
I think in a traditional draft I went and take them,
but he'll make a waiver wire years.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
I bet I would put some money on it. Yep,
most definitely. Okay, at number two, we have Cam, Cam
and Eddy. Okay, he's just type of starter that I
normally avoid. Okay, should I be avoiding him? Convinced me
to give him a look? Rich Well, there's a tough

(15:29):
one for you.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
He's got I mean, it just depends on how you
like to play the game. He's got more upside than
Jo Richie. It's a better arm, but he's also nineteen
years old, a greater chance of injury. He does throw
from the left side, which you like. Sonny athletic lefty
that can touch ninety seven from the left side. He
should have your attention. I think the case for him

(15:52):
is he should start the season in High A, which
begins for a guy who likes to play the more
conservative game that you do, I think from a prospect standpoint.
In other words, Tim doesn't like to have guys that
are sixteen and seventeen years old on his roster. He's
looking for older players that are getting closer. I think

(16:12):
Cam Kennanetti Caminetti starts to get a little bit closer.
I have his ETA at twenty twenty eight, which I
think is realistic. But could he do Hya in Double
A and all of a sudden his his ETA switches
to twenty twenty seven. I think it could. So I
would think I would think the fact that he's starting

(16:34):
in Hiya and he's a lefty that can touch ninety
seven should have even your attention. That doesn't necessarily like
to roster younger.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Pitchers sold, I'm going to go give him a second look. Thanks, Rich,
appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yeah, he's probably gone in most leagues, would be my guess.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yeah, I've got I've got one where he isn't.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yeah, So definitely this question was very very much motivated
to a decision I'm going to have to make in.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
A couple So it's all about it's all about Tim.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Well, of course it is. We've been doing this how long, Rich.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
I play in a dozen leagues and he is owned
in every league, so every league.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Okay, at number three, we have did your ways. Right
hand pitcher he was young and rushed and as you
so welogome with, but it overwhelmed in a four game
stint last year. What's your level of interest per se

(17:46):
for twenty twenty six and then moving later.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
I think he's going to be a bullpen arm. It's
a two pitch pitcher, doesn't really have a pitch against
glove side batters. I think everybody needs to just have
that in the back of your mind. Now again, as
we're starting to see coming out through Roto World and
Rota Wire, guys are going to drive line. I think
I saw where Jordan Walker's going to drive line to

(18:12):
rework his swing, So you're just going to start to
see that. I think that's important stuff. So I think
it's encouraging that George Walker's going to be reworking a swing.
He needs to do that. If you start to see
Dinny er front dates coming out and figuring out how
to throw a splitter, you need to take that very
very seriously. So that's the kind of stuff that we

(18:34):
need to start looking at. If he if we see
it change like that, then becomes very interesting. If not,
I think he's destined for the bullpen, which still could
be a closer.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, I was going to say, it's not like Atlanta
has youth in their bullpen right now. They're going to
need some bullpen arms in the next two three years.
The Glaces one one year deal, right, So who knows
what's going to happen heading into twenty twenty seven. Uh,
Lane is going to be one of my tart targets
to stash a relief pitcher.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Oh gotcha. I'm terrible playing I'm terrible playing the closer
and waiting game. I don't I'm not good at it.
So I would not be rostering Diddy or Flints. If
you think in two to three years he's going to
be the close of the future, that's just me. I'm
not good enough to know if he's gonna I just
know he has a good arm, and I know he
needs a third pitch. So I think as people listening

(19:31):
to this podcast, you play in deeper dynasty leagues or
even even regular fantasy leagues, you just need to know
the name and know what the deficiencies are and know
what the opportunities are. And again, be like reading about
these guys during the off season again to see if
if we start to see a new pitch and that
happens a lot tim it does.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
You know. It's hey, uh, we're gonna talk about it
in our next session. But you know, with the Jay
sign Devil and season, the first thing he says he
wants to learn how to throw a splitter. Okay with
Goatsman and Trey you Savage. So yeah, even veterans are
looking at ways to improve themselves. The kids are doing

(20:16):
it constantly.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah, on Dylan sees. I mean the data. I looked
at his data actually in season last year and actually
once he got signed, and it is clear he does
not have a third pitch. It just goes to show
you how good those first two his fastball slider is,
because he is a pretty effective major leaguer. But if

(20:39):
he got if he could figure out a change up
or probably a splitter with those two cats, that he'd
be pitching because you Savage has got a great splitter. Yeah,
I mean it's a field pitch. And the fact that
he's willing to learn if he comes that with a splitter,
even if it's if it's below average control, it could
be nasty, nasty to go up again. It's that guy.

(21:00):
He could be a lot better than he showed over
the last couple of years, which has been good, but
kind of a low fource era with a lot of strikeouts.
That's been Dylan Sees. Can you imagine Dylan's Dylan Sees
with a you know, a low threes era because and
even more strikeouts. I mean, that's who the guy could become.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yeah, and again that's a veteran. It's not the kids
we're talking about now, you know what I mean. Everybody
who's looking at ways to improve their game they should
be anyways.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
And again it's it's become a lot more acceptable by
teams have realized that drive line and there's a lot
of other baseball academies out there are really good at
their job, and they're letting their players, their signed players,
go to these places and say, hey, if you can
figure something out, go for it. And it's becoming a

(21:51):
lot more acceptable for those players to do. Back in
the old days, it was like, how dare you go
against the team's teachings, you know, and they people have
gotten away from that at least for the most part.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Yeah, we have a plan, you follow it. That's right,
That's yeah, that's no. I agree. Anyhow, moving on at
number four, we've got Jose Perdomo. Is he a relative
of the diamond back shorts talk?

Speaker 1 (22:21):
You know, probably not, but I probably hope she is.
I mean, look for one of the big signees back
in twenty twenty four, big five million dollars signing, which
so let me remind you. I know Tim knows, but
I'll remind our listeners. A lot of times these bonuses
are decided upon when the kid is fourteen fifteen years old,

(22:43):
because that's when that's when these guys want to know
what they're going to be signed for. So sometimes the
the bonus doesn't necessarily reflect what the current status of
the player is. So that's why you see sometimes see
the three one thousand dollars kid that blows up and
the four million dollar player who flames out. It's like,

(23:05):
how did those teams miss so much? Well, again, it's
because they're they're making commitments to these academies in the
Dominican Republic that say, okay, you can lock up Jose
Perdoma when he's fifteen years old, you got him two
years down the road. And that's just the way it's done.
So Predoma's been he struggled Tommy to get out of

(23:26):
the out of the gate here. But he's showing a
pretty good understanding of the strike zone. There's there's speed there,
and I think there's enough bat speed and exit velossy
that you can point to a little bit of power.
So I haven't given up on them. It's just been
slow so far.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Well, and when you're dealing with seventeen eighteen year old kids,
it happens you can't define a player long term by
what you see in chart season ball as a seventeen.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Year old that's right.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Yeah, yeah, these kids haven't finished growing yet. Okay, Yeah,
there's a long way. And the only thing I was
going to comment is the skill set and the upside.
They're very intriguing for Prudemo, aren't they.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
I think so. I think the athleticism. You're betting on
the athleticism. There is he going to hit enough? I
guess time will tell him that. That's the game we
play with these with these Latin kids. And sometimes and
again I like really pointing Hayes's my day. I mean,
everybody saw the athleticism when he was in the Dominican,
but no one was really sure how good his batting

(24:33):
eye was or how good of the swing decisions he
was going to make, and that turned out to be phenomenal, Right,
and that's why he's a special player. We all knew
he was going to be able to hit. We all
knew he's going to have some power with speed, he
was an athletic, but it wasn't until we got him
stateside and started to say, Wow, this guy really makes
good swing decisions. And that's usually the differentiator. And you

(24:56):
just don't know when a kid is sixteen seventeen years
old and playing two thousand miles away in the Dominican
well probably one thousand miles away in the Dominican.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah, there's a big difference between a fifteen percent to
strikeout rate andy thirty five percent strikeout rate, and yeah,
that that that comes with time and actually seeing him
in the system, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah, And I still think for Doomo, I think I
still think there's something there and I think I've got
a rostered in a couple of Dynasty leagues, So I'm
not giving up on him yet. Now you'll hitt lo
away next season. That should we should start to learn
a lot more about what he's got.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yep. Okay, At number five, we had have Tate I'm
gonna say, Sothisen.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
I thought it was Alpha Sen as well, So that's
that's what I've been saying.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Okay, somebody had to do it, And congratulations Todate. You
broke the Braves streak of first round pitchers going off
the board. He went off the board last year at
twenty two, only seventeen, So he's a long ways away,
isn't he. He is.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
I've got his ETA twenty twenty eight, twenty nine. But
I think the fact that they took a high school shortstop,
high end high school shortstop kind of shows where the
Braves find themselves. They had signed all of these young kids,
Ronald Acunya and Ozzy Albi's, all of these kids a

(26:29):
long term contracts well, with Alvi's case starting to get older,
the contracts are starting to run out, and they're looking
at their minor league roster and realizing we don't have
a lot of depth there. So Alex dyes and who's
who's the next player? They started to basically say, we
need to address look down the down the road that

(26:51):
we've got our next guys coming up, and say what
you want about the Atlanta Braves, it's not a strong system.
But one or two of these guys come out every
year and turn into turn into players. And uh so
they they are able to churn them out.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Yeah, they most certainly are. And you know moving into
Alex Ladyce is it.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
You gotta we got to talk to Bob Kinghi told
me how to pronounce his name, and I've forgotten how
he said. It's I need to go back and look
to his phonetic spelling. Apologize, Bob. I'm sure you're listening
to this and shaking your head, but.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Yeah, it could be Ladisi. It could be anyway you
look at him. Yeah, he fell the sixtieth overall and
and he just had a monster junior season at Florence.
Why why did he fall that far? Rich? Do you
you know what? What were the concerns that caused him

(27:48):
to move down the border or are there any It
was just the way the way everything broke it. I
know you're recommending moving him up and yeah, I like.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
That well before answer, so I called up the It
was pretty easy to call up the Bob king highs.
Uh note to me, he said, for future reference, his
name is pronounced low d e e c.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
E low d s lod okay, there we go.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Isn't that pronounced D D D E E C E
would be D Yeah? I would Again I missed fatally,
So I will remind everyone that I'm not a stupid person.
I know they probably think that. But when I was
going through elementary school, they had this new way of
trying to teach kids how to read, and it was

(28:39):
not phonetics. So they they completely did away with phonics
when I was going through my early years, and I
never learned how to sound that words.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
And it's in my in my case, if you didn't
do it right, they just gave you the strap. Sorry.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Oh wow, wow, Okay, check where Tim went to school anyway?
What was your quest amout lo DS? Why did he drop? Probably?

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, Well, I think I think numbers were great. The
numbers were great at Florida State last year.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
I think there was some concern. I think there was
some concern. At least what I heard going through the
draft prep from amateur scouts is there were some concern
about his exit velocities not being hot, you know, not
being on the high end standpoint, So there was some
concern about what the power output would be in the

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batspeed catching up with high end velocity, So there was
some concern about that. So the fact that he had
nearly four hundred at Florida State that the feeling was
maybe that was a little misplaced in terms of what
his upside would eventually be. But I'm still going on
twenty home runs, five to ten stolen bay is uh,

(30:01):
and I write I write that I think he's a
sneaky third round pick. So I hear it, but I
hear what they're saying, but I'm I'm going to buy
in a little bit here on Alex low D's.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Okay, at number seven, we have Briggs, McKenzie Briggs.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
You gotta love you got mackenzie, right, that's what you're.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Thinking, Yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah, But he went off the
board at one twenty seven is your and he finds
himself at number seven on your rankings. Uh, the Braves
paid a fairly serious chunk of change for somebody that
went that late. Was a three million.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
They wanted this kid, didn't they?

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Okay, So so the reason he is so high, Uh,
it's not that I have insight information on who the
player is. This is what I'm going on. I'm going
on a LSU commit which we talked about a couple
of times. You know, if you see a kid a
picture going to LSU, they are a little bit like

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Scott Barrs. They can pick whomever they want, and they
decided to pick Briggs mackenzie and the Braves had a
pay to get him out of going to LSU, so
they got it. They basically gave him late first round
money which he couldn't turn down. So that's number one.

(31:30):
Number two is you're talking an athletic lefty who's already
up to ninety four and the feeling, giving his size
and athleticism, that he's going to put on more velocity.
So that's the second reason. The third reason is we
look at the history of what the Braves have done
with their pictures with young pictures. They've just done a
really good job with it. So I look at all

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of that, I look at a projectable lefty who can
already spend a curve ball. This isn't a this isn't
a Tim is going to make because he doesn't like
drafting young pitchers and nord to why. But I find
this guy very intriguing, particularly in first year player drafts,
because no one's gonna be on this guy exactly.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah, when you see one twenty seven, that to me
is attention worthy. You know what I mean, there's a
there's a there's upside there that's right at his That
is the current current draft spot, which would probably be
around round fifth, fifth, sixth round something like that, probably.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Well, I mean fifteen rounds. I mean that's if you're
going strictly on you know where he went to the draft.
I mean that's that's Yeah. So I mean to me,
you pop him in the fifth round and you see
and you hold on to him for a year, see
what happens.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yeah, makes total sense to me.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
I love the setup here. It might not work, but
I love the setup.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Cool. At number eight we have Drew Hackenberg. I took
a quick look at the numbers, and fifty two walks
and sixty five and two thirds innings pitched would indicate
that there's definitely some work to get in before he's
moving to the next level. Is that fair?

Speaker 1 (33:15):
For sure? But he's a ground ball machine. It's got
a really good cutter that just saws off guys. And again,
I think you're betting that the Braves can get him
more direct to the plate and improve that control. Again,
I think he's an interesting guy because it's a good arm.
He's probably gonna be double A, triple A coming into

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starting the season in twenty twenty six, and a chance
to see the Braves later on in the season. Again,
doesn't throw strikes, but that can happen pretty quickly. So
a guy is doing strikes.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yep, Okay, At number nine, we have John Eel hopefully pronounce.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
It right, John Giel right like in Luis.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Giel you get exactly there you go. He doesn't leave
his teens until mid May twenty twenty six, and he's
likely to start the year at double A. This is
some upside sitting here, isn't there. Yeah?

Speaker 1 (34:16):
I wrote about him a bunch over last season for
our Daily Notes for our Patreon members, and yeah, so
he is doesn't turn twenty until May, and again it
was low Way, then he got jumped to double A.
I'm guessing he probably starts the season at high A.
So his primary primary time he spent in the minor

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leagues last year was in low Way, but look it
was it was almost as many walks of strikeouts. He
walked fourteen percent of the time in Low Way when
a twelve point three percent of the walks. He stole
fifty of sixty four bases. I mean, it's not a
ton of power. Ye had only a three seventy eight slug.
But there's a lot the like here from a fantasy standpoint,

(35:02):
and I love the fact that he's making good contact. Yeah,
he's got to get stronger. He might not ever develop
a ton of power, but this is another player that
few people are on, and I just I find it
very intriguing.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
I agree totally. The next The next guy is a
guy that intrigues me, and I'm gonna go with Patrick. Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, Patrick.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
I thought it was Quahisi. I thought it was Kloheesi.
But you know, because yeah, I got the magical word
Jacob Marcy. So that was se news. I probably used
him in at least a dozen, if not more write
ups comparing you know, basically, players to Jacob Marcy were
those guys that are incredibly athletic with with seventy speed,

(35:50):
and that's who Jacob Marcia. Now I'm not sure I'm
completely buying into the power of Jacob Marcy, but uh,
I think you got to look at Clohes. He is
a really really interesting guy and game changing speed for sure.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Well, yeah, he had what fifty eight fs and seventy
one attempts at high A with another nineteen stolen base
in one hundred and fifty nine at bats at Double A.
But what I found intriguing is those four homers at
Double A in a relatively small sample size one hundred
and fifty nine at bats. That's perked my attention, Richard.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
It should. And again also the comparison. He is twenty
four next month, so I mean he's a relatively older guy.
Did play in the Fall League. I think he stole
a lot of bases in the Fall League, which is
what see do I have? Do they have another? I'm
not looking at the Fall League, but makes good contact
seventy nine stolen basis and total last season, So I mean, again,

(36:49):
there is a possibility a fourth outfielder here. But he's
getting close to him, and I think he's interesting.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
I totally agree. There is a top ten from the
Atlanta Braves. Who would you like to nominate as number eleven?

Speaker 1 (37:05):
My friend, let's see here it gets a little light
here and Ian Murphy, Oh Murphy, you know it's kind
of coming back from Tommy Johnson. I kind of like
Diego Horns DSL kids signed for two and a half
million dollars. Really showed decent contact twenty one point eight

(37:27):
percent strikeout rate, which isn't great, but he also walked
almost as many times as he struck out at fifteen
point six, there's plenty of bats feed. I just think
it's a kid that you need to kind of monitor.
I kind of like the upside there.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
That is great and that sums up our discussion on
the Atlanta Braves. Time for a commercial break and we'll
be back in a couple.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
See you guys in a second job. Questions really good.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Well, thanks. I figured I'd try a couple of different
things with with with the Braves and mix it up
a little bit and hopefully our listeners got as much
out of it as I know I did.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
So we're going on to the Marlins and I'm going
to turn it back over to you. Really pitching heavy system,
So I'm curious as the questions ten will be firing
off at me here.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Yeah, Well, let's start up at the top with Thomas
White and I'm just going to quote you to get
rolling here. He could emerge as a left handed version
of Hunter Green that's high praise. How many innings are
we going to see in twenty twenty six? Rich?

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Not many? Oh, okay, look, I think the Darlin's are stacked.
I think Robbie Snelling is ahead of Thomas White. I
think you would agree with that Snelling spent more time.
There's still some control problems with Thomas White, so he
could stand to spend quite a bit of time in

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TRIPLEA getting his control together. Now, if he starts throwing
strikes in the month of April, we could see him
in May. And I could be wrong, but I'm guessing
it's probably going to be more. It's either going to
be in the six to eight type of number of
starts or we're going to be pissed off, just like
we were with Robbie Snelling not getting the call in

(39:38):
twenty twenty five. I think it's going to be more that.
Then all of a sudden, we're going to see him
start twenty games and be one of the Rookie of
the Year candidates. It's got the ability to do that,
that's for sure. I would just like to see him
spend another good, solid season in the minor leagues.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Well, I'm your look at what happened with Robby's Snelling.
It only makes sense, doesn't it.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
Yeah, I mean Robbie Snelling, he got off to a
slow start, but by the third or fourth game of
the season, if you take a look at that, like
fourth game to the end of the year, it was
barely over two earned ron average. I mean, he was
just absolutely dominant. And I don't I don't know why
they didn't call him up. And Thomas White is just

(40:24):
turned twenty one years old, Timmy, he turned twenty one
at the end of September, So I mean, it just
doesn't feel like it's right to see him come up.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Yeah, I you know, and that moves us into Robbie Snelling,
And you know his eleven starts at Triple A sixty
three and two Thursday eights eighty one, straycoats twelve, seventeen
walks A one to twenty seven. Are I think that
that's the definition of being ready.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
Yeah. I don't know what happened there. I wish I did.
Look twenty twenty four was a disaster. I thought I
dropped him my NFC draft, I think in the forty
eighth or forty ninth round in twenty twenty four I
thought he'd be up and he was one of the guys,
was one of my draft targets as well, and he
just got off to a crappy start. Eventually, the Padres,
as they do, they draft, they traded him to the Marlins,

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and as the Marlins do, Timmy, they they got him
straightened out and all of a sudden, he just as
you threw out his stat line, he figured it out
and his fastball got more velocity, his secondary pitches got tighter,
And maybe that's why the Marlins are good at this.
They decided not to rush them. Let's just give him
a full season, give him confidence, and give him a

(41:39):
chance to come out of spring training with a gig,
and maybe that's what will happen.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Yeah, what would you innings pitched, strikeouts? Eerie? Where are
you looking at for twenty twenty six?

Speaker 1 (41:52):
I would not be surprised if we see one hundred
and twenty to one hundred and forty. You know, he
could very assuming health, he could very easily break camp
with the team or be one of the you know,
the first call ups after the team leaves Florida. Well,
I guess they never leave Florida, but after after spring

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and I think from an era standpoint, you could be
looking at low force, high threes. I think he's going
to be pretty good in a strikeout in any maybe
even a little bit more than a strikeout. And I
think I think the stuff's going to play, and if
things go right, given the fact that he plays in
a really nice ballpark, from a home game standpoint, you

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could be looking at a guy that has chanced to
win Brookie of the Year. I think there's that kind
of upside with Robbie Snelling.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Definitely in re draft leagues, he should be filling one
of your bench slots.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Yeah he's gone three sixty eightyp so that's round twenty three,
twenty four.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Yeah, yeah, yep o. Okay, good stuff. That the Marlins
have got two lefties. It could be Ace caliber pitchers
just on the cusp. And that's got to be exciting
for Marlins.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Fancy it is. I wish they had bats that were
at that same caliber. But I mean they have just
struggled to me mightily, probably since gian Carlos Stanton and
uh and what's his face of place for Milwaukee now,
Christian Yelling.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Yeah, And I was gonna say handling Ramiro, I would say.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Hand, those guys are fifteen years ago from being in
the minor leagues. I mean, they have just not been
able to pull things together from a hitter standpoint, and
it just seems like every every hitter they draft underperforms.
A lot of people believe they overdrafted those guys to
begin with, but the pitching has just been a completely

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different story.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Yeah, I know Lewin Diaz is proving in Korea and
his Korean team. Thanks Marlins for for those challenges. At
number three, we've got Ava. I'm gonna go with Ava
or Cat.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Yeah, I'm our cat.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
So yeah, yeah, drafted seventh overall last year. To quote
you directly, there are a few infielders built like him,
and a move to corner outfield spot or first base
maybe inevitable.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Big body shortstop, So Timmy, he's got a big ass,
that's what that means.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
So okay, how were we talking like the biggest of
the big here.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
It's like a Ricky Weeds big butt, you know, it's
it's it's a guy that's going to be able to
use that big butt, big lower half I think to
generate some power, which is good. He's six foot five,
I mean six foot five, big body. He's not, say
a short stop. This is going to be more first
base than maybe a corner outfield. And again I would
not I I would not dismiss the fact that he

(45:02):
could move the first base, but there's definitely red flags here.
He's the seventh overall pick and a lot of people
like this guy coming out of the draft, but it
is not a great body. It just does not right.
You want more athleticism and somebody drafted number seventh overall
and that's just not our cat. I mean, he's definitely

(45:23):
going to be a home run hitter. That's his guy.
Some some reason, he sold seven bases in the first
twenty seven games when he went to high A. I
don't know, he's not that fast. I'm not sure where
that came from, but it's that's who the player is.
Middle of the order plotter that's probably gonna be first base, corner,
corner outfield that could pop twenty five plus home runs.
I think that's the player.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
Okay, at number four we have Sterling Kabba. Is Sterling
Kaba potentially the reason that they've a cat moves to
a corner oatfield slaughter first base.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Well, that's interesting. He could Sterlin Kabba's top three short
up in the minor leagues. And this guy is a
double plus defender, maybe in a great an eighty grade
defender at short, so he will be in the major leagues.
His glove will take him to the major leagues. The
question is going to be is his offensive game going
to be there? And it's all going to come down

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to how much power he has. And at five foot nine,
one hundred and sixty pounds, that's not suggesting there's going
to be a lot of power there. So it's it
could be seventy grade defense and seventy grade speed with
a guy that can hit is just who the player
is going to be. But he might be so good
defensively that he carves out five hundred plate appearances a

(46:39):
season just because of that alone. So that's why that's
why he's up so high. And you know, you're talking
a guy that might ad three on runs to you
have forty bases and you know, hit two seven or
something like that, and always being in the lineup because
of his glove. Don't dismiss that that's a good player.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Yeah, And that's sort of a as I look through
the Marlins roster, okay, and look through their miners. They
have a lot of players with that mold good glove,
limited power, a ton of speed.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
Yeah, it's Xavier Edwards, as they have a lot of
Jacob Marcy to a certain extent. I mean that sooons
marsh Jacob Marshy is a great defender. And it's speed
and hit a little bit, not a ton of power.
And that's that seems to be the guys they like
to gravitate towards. And you know they need some guys
that can hit home runs as well.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Yeah, at least one or two, yeah, for sure. Okay,
at number five we have Nobel Meyer. Is this fair
to say he's gone from potential ace to a mid
rogation arm with control risk. That's that's a fairly big
drop in the wrong direction, isn't.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
It could be a closer too, I mean it could
be your bullpen arm. I mean it's rare that we
have this conversation about the Marlins potentially missing on a pitcher,
particularly a kid that was taken that high in the draft.
But first of all, there were reports when he was
in high school he's hitting hundred miles an hour. I mean,
I got data because there's good data in the Marlins

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low Egg organization, and he was more than ninety three
to ninety four that's where he was averaging. So it's
a big drop off. So either the reports coming out
of high school were wrong, or if something has happened
to his arms. I probably guessed that he hit one
hundred once, Yes, maybe when he.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Was I hit ninety seven once when I was in
high school too.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Yeah, I don't want to know that means. But his
big promise you just can't throw strikes. I would not
put anything past the Marlins the straightening this guy out.
We've talked that nauseum already here in the last fifteen minutes,
that they're really good at this. But it's not the
same guy that we thought coming out of the draft.
It's just not and uh. And Thomas White was drafted

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in the second round, Noble Meyer in the first round
of that same draft, and they've gone in different directions.
Not to say that Meyer can't can't be Yeah, by
the way, my AI assistant still loves Noble Meyer. He
has him as a fantasy impact target. I disagree with
that position, and I had a long conversation with Laurie

(49:26):
about that today. She's like, like, why do you why
do you even include the AI assistant in there? He's
going to take your job? And I'm like, well, yeah,
I mean, but isn't that the point if he's if
he becomes better than me, isn't that the whole point
of it to try to give the reader the most
up to date information that I possibly can. So anyway,

(49:46):
so that's that's his view on it.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Okay, Well, and you know what, I want some time
with your A one assistant because I want to make
sure he only uses zero point zero in the right circumstances.
I got to get him trained right off the bat.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
There you go as a fantasy.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
Manager, What do you do with Meyer? Right now?

Speaker 1 (50:04):
Oh? Man?

Speaker 2 (50:05):
I sell? Are you looking at possibly even I hate
to say it, but maybe even a cut at some
point in time this year He'll drop, Yeah, what are
you doing as a fantasy manager with nobel Meyer? Because
he's got to be rostered all over the place.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
I don't think you can. I don't think you can sell.
I mean maybe you can, but you know you're not
going to get much for Noble Meyer. And I would
only sell them at twenty cents on the dollar if
I was about to drop him. In other words, I
played in a league that I just had pet players
I like better than I maybe try to sell for
twenty cents something. My gut says, you hold on to

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him for one more season. You gotta give grace to
the Marlins here. They're too good at this. Bob Meyers
six foot five, still got a great arm. You gotta
give him a chance to get his control underway. And
again the decent change up too. So I mean he's

(51:04):
there's still stuff to like. So it's not a lost
cause here. It's just not the same guy that we thought.
So I would not be running out to cut him
unless I'm in a unless I got fifteen, you know,
fifteen Dynasty League slots and I just run out of
room or something like that, minor league slots.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Okay, okay, that sounds great, Thanks for the advice. A
number six, we've got Kemp Alderman, and he stands out
in the Marlin system because he does something at very
few to do. He hits the ball a long way.
He's a big kid, but two and fifty pounds and
he steals bases. That's sort of scary. Is he going

(51:42):
to be a late target for you in fifty man
draft and hold leagues this year.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
He could be, because I mean, they need guys like
Kemp Alderman. I will say Kemp Alderman is flawed, and
I'll tell you why, because again, I write the only
notes every day for every day for our Dynasty League man,
and I seem to be writing about him multiple times
during the week. Early part of the season, he was
all the time in there. And because you're writing every day,

(52:09):
sometimes you just forget about you haven't mentioned a guy
in a while. And it was the middle of the summer,
I want to say, early August, and I go, you
know what happened to Kemp Alderman. I kind of I
went back and I took a look at his stuff
and it was like he hadn't gotten a hit in
like six weeks. I mean it was he hit everything
in the beginning of the season. Literally the three months

(52:32):
in the middle of the season he didn't hit the
broad side of the barn. And then at the end
of the season he was all over my daily notes. Again,
it was the streakiest kind of hitter. I don't know
if he was injured during the middle of the season.
I don't know if he's just streaky, but there's big
boy power, there's a little bit of speed. So not

(52:52):
the greatest body. Six foot two and two hundred and
fifty pounds is not the best body in the world. No,
But you know that's my take on camp Alderman. I
kind of like the player because I do think he
gets a shot. I haven't thought about him in first
excuse me, in draft in whole leagues, but he should

(53:13):
get a shot in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
Okay, at number seven, we've got Dylan Head, the concern
about the hip surgery and the potential of the speed
problem where has been alleviated with a thirty six or
forty five stolen bas season. He seems like a typical Marlin,
doesn't he.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
Yeah, I think that's a good call by you. I
mean it's Temp brought it up, and there's a guy,
a lot of guys like Starlin Kava and Dylan Head
and Jacob Marcy. It's just the kind of player they
seem to gravitate towards, which again gives guys like Kemp
Alderman a shot because they're different. But Dylan Head was
well thought of when the padres grabbed him and drafted
him back in twenty twenty three. So out of all

(53:58):
of these top ten guys that are that we talked
about our hitters, he's probably got the best upside of anybody.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Well, he was ahead of the class, wasn't he?

Speaker 1 (54:08):
Right? Hold on, sir, we get back over to the console.
Very well played, very well played.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
Yeah, so all all is not lost with this kid,
is what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
I mean, he's been hurt, so you got to give
him a little bit of a little bit of a
slack there, just to you know, to improve things. He's
got to get stronger. But look, okay, he's making good contact,
he's fast, it's a good defender. So there's a lot
of core tools there. Just you know, let's let's hope
he gets a little bit stronger and starts hit with

(54:44):
some more authority.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Okay, sounds good. At number eight, we've got Max Acosta.
It certainly it seems like we've been talking about Max
Acosta like forever and your tool summary at the top
of your capsule. He has played more power in twenty
twenty five, and when you add that to the speed,
a full time starter is emerging. That's interesting, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
It is. It's been a long haul for him. He
was part of that twenty nineteen terrible class that got
burned by COVID, the international class. He worked through it
all with the Rangers and a poor kid had thoracic
outlet syndrome. And he's one of the guys that has
come through that and has continued with his career, which
is good. I mean there's a lot to like here.

(55:29):
Now is it a full time regular? I don't know.
Maybe I've got him more as a middle infielder with
some upside, So, you know, I wish he'd played shortstop
because second base kind of limits him a little bit.
Is the power for real? I'm not so sure, but
I think there could be something there now drafting whole leagues?

(55:51):
Am I gonna grab him? Probably? Not? See where's he going?
Is he going to drafting whole leagues? Maximo COSI? Yeah,
he's been draft into four of the twenty five leagues. Okay,
say he's the last pick there?

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Yeah a dartass Yeah, okay, fair enough at number nine
and I'm gonna I'm gonna rant for a second here
at number nine, we have Joe mack and after last
year and my predicting on catchers and so many working
I didn't end up with any of them. So Joe
Mack is one of my tartars, at which I have three,

(56:27):
I believe that I will be focusing on in twenty
twenty six, and the reason behind it is power and
playing time opportunities. Am I hitting in the right direction
with Joe Mack as a potential number two catcher and
two catcher sets riche what's your take on my love
and my man crush on mister Mack?

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Why is there such a mac just because of the
power potential.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
The power potential and playing time. I don't think he's
going to have any I think it's Liam Hicks and
Augustina Ramirez is a DH. He's not going to be
catching much. I think Joe Mack is going to amass
two hundred plus at bats and potentially hit ten to
twelve home runs.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Well, there's nobody. There's no backup catcher at the moment
besides besides Ramirez, and he's a poor, poor catcher, so
he's probably an emergency guy. If your first two guys
get hurt in the game, then you can pull him in.
But I mean, I hadn't thought about it that way.
But I kind of like your thinking. There's definitely power

(57:33):
power potential there, so I mean it's not it is
a bit of a risk for so you're taking a
number two catcher as your number two catcher in a
in a fantasy league, So I mean it feels a
little light to me. I'd rather have a guy who's
a starting catcher with some upside as my number two catcher.

(57:58):
But I mean, I he could emerge and take time
away from Liam Hicks, but he's not a very good
defensive catcher either, So that's kind of my take there.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
So Okay, well thanks, I appreciate that. And again you've
got to gravitate the fact that it is all about me,
and I appreciate that. At number ten we have Andrew Salas.
Uh yeah, okay in the twenty twenty five International and yeah,
they gotta love that walk rate at low ad Uh

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could he prove to be a better player than his brother?

Speaker 1 (58:35):
My rant before answer your question, what yes, what is
it with these Salas brothers? You know, I I I
Ethan Sallas skips over the DSL in the Complex League
and goes directly to low Way and they do the
same thing to his brother Andrew Salas. I mean they
skip him over the same and Timmy, what did he hit?

(58:55):
He had won eighty nine.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
But quality one A.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
I don't, I mean, I don't. What do they have
a clause in these guys contracts when they sign them
that that they have to get him immediately to the States.
I'm not exactly sure what's happening.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
It has a bet between a twenty dollars bet between
two brothers who.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
I don't know. I mean, and poor Ethan Salas has
not been able to stay healthy. And when he's when
he stayed healthy, he's not been very good. And Andrew
Salas got off to a really good start, and then
he started getting more of a steady dyed and breaking pitches,
and he just got a freak swing. You see the
big walk right there, but just was a sitting duck.
He'd get two strikes a lot of times and just

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swing and miss through everything. He should restart twenty twenty
six back in low A. That's where he needs to be.
He needs to have some level of accomplishment in the
level before he goes up. Can he become a better
player than his brother? I would put that as a
low possibility, and he is. Anything is possible, so low probability,

(01:00:03):
anything is possible. I gues his brother's a better player.
Is Andrew Sallas a better fantasy player? Yes, because of
the speed?

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
But is he going to be as good of a hitter?
It's too soon to say. I mean, he you know,
when you're so overwhelmed at a level you just can
get no sense that the guy's any good or not.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Well, yeah, we're going to be talking about Ethan Sallas
entering his seventh year in the minors. You've done eight
capsules on him and he's still only twenty three years
old and trying to get to the bigs, right, something
like that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
He's barely twenty now, so you're right. I mean it's like,
and it's funny because Sebastian Walcott. A lot people don't
remember this. He was signed in the same Sea, same
year and Sebastian wall and Walcott's going to be the
major leagues next year. I mean, yeah, and he is
performing better than Ethan Sallas. And then but you go
back to that year they were drafting it's a Sallas.

(01:01:01):
I think it was a double A when he was
eighteen years old. I mean it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
So yeah, yeah, totally totally insane. Okay, there's there's our
top ten from the Marlin system. Let's say you about
number eleven.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
I just back on Andrew Salis for a moment.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
I don't have a couple of leagues.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
I bought into the pedigree, I bought into the to
the skills, I bought into the player. So I want
to make sure that I say that and I'm happy
that I have him. It's just going to be longer
than I think anybody originally thought, Uh, let's let's give
him another Let's give him another year, maybe another two years,

(01:01:45):
to see if that time because it was almost a
four million dollar sign. Again, he is a Salas brother,
and and he's there's another brothers in the Marlins organizations. Well,
so there's some pettigree going on there as well. So
I just want to make sure I got all of
that in.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
But yeah, let's hope he takes a quicker path than
his brother.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
How is that for sure? There's a bunch of players
here I would love to talk about. I'm gonna give
you a couple of the first is uh, I mean
our buddy Divas and Dela Santo's I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
That's a name that stood out to me. Rich, I
was gonna throw him out there if you didn't bring
him up.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
I mean, it is definitely a guy that hit forty
home runs. Tim and I talked about him a ton.
We were hoping that the Marlins would bring him up.
But if you take a look at the bat speed
and the advanced data says it, it's just not crazy
exit velocity. It's the bat's a little slow. So it
could be just a big country raw guy that, yeah,

(01:02:42):
when he gets behind something, it can go an awful
long way. But the approach got exposed and triple A
and it just seems like this is the Marlins. I mean,
they they acquire these guys and they get snookered, and
it just feels like they got snookered with Divas and
Dela Santos. Still, I think we see him next year.
At some point, he's going to get a shot. Maybe

(01:03:03):
there's some power there too. You maybe hits a bunch
of home runs. Maybe he does a Yohinsky Noel kind
of thing where it's seven or eight home runs in
a month and he's made a couple of your waiver
wires and it turns out maybe it'says long term, he says,
not that good.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
That's the first Yeah, And in twenty twenty six I'll
be writing about and mentioning the Davison de Losandos has
joined the KBO, and I'll be recommending him in twenty
twenty eight.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
Yeah, you know, you're right. He could be he could
be KBO bound, that could be where he is where
maybe it's slider bat speed. He turns out to be
Lewin Diaz and hits or forty home runs there, there's
no question how There's no question that he can hit
the ball a long way. That's not the issue. It's
just can he catch up to velocity? And I think

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that's he wasn't last season. Last season he was exposed.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
This is a big year for him.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
This is a big year for him. I would agree
with you on that. Jared's Jared Serna. I love Jared Cerna.
When he was with the Yankees, I thought he would
develop power and he just has not. He's only five
foot seven. Some people say he's even shorter than that.
But I thought it was gonna be sneaky power and
it's just not. I mean, he just doesn't hit the

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ball hard enough, so there's speed he can really hit,
but it's probably it's probably an extra bat at this point,
so disappointing in that. And then the third guy is
Jacob Barry. Jacob Barry was yeah, drafted six overall in
twenty twenty two. Ye email, he's probably a platoon bat.

(01:04:44):
There's definitely some platoon splits. But I think he's gonna
get a shot this season. Oh I put in twenty
twenty five, twenty six. That's a typo. So it just
I think he makes makes his debut in twenty twenty six.
He's actually making better contact last season than he ever has,
still not showing a much much power speed, But I

(01:05:08):
bet you he makes a waiver wire of yours. I
bet you he comes up and actually does something.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
Yeah, I wouldn't. Yeah, you know when I when I
see Jacob Barry, you know who else I see is
uh Blade? Yeah, they must have been the same same year.
Are close to it?

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
Yeah, maybe I think this day a little bit earlier
than that, but.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
That could be. But I always think the two I
always I always sort of tied the two of them together.
Maybe it's because I had both of them rostered at one.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
Well was signed in twenty nineteen, so it was about
three years before that. But it's fair. They're both Marlon kids, right.
So yeah, but I bet you gets a shot. I
bet you makes a waiver war. I mean, he's there
could be a shred of something there that points to
maybe a platoon bat. I just don't. I mean, if

(01:06:01):
you have rostered in a Dynasty league, yeah, way more
patience than I ever would. I even have been dropped
a while ago. So but I think he deserves to
mention at least. So it's the Marlins are really deep.
I'm not sure it's really good outside of some of
these high end pitchers that we talked about. They got

(01:06:22):
a lot of bets still on the bats to him,
a lot of bets.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
Well, and a lot of those bats are the same bats. Yeah,
you know, they're low power, high speed, and that seems
to be the model that they are currently currently following. Man,
you can only you can only have so many Rabbits
on the team. You get, you gotta have some guys
in the three four five slot with power, and until
lat occurs, Marlins are always going to be challenged.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
It appears that way. I mean, they only they can
only roster really want Xavier Edwards and they got Xavier Edwards,
so they need some other, some other type of players.
I think that's the hope they have with Jacob marcis
maybe they found somebody that's a little bit more well rounded.
I mean, we'll see if the power shows up next season.
But to be a second a break, come back and

(01:07:11):
wrap this puppy.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
Up sounds good.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
Got something to anybody that's talking about today that piqued
your interest.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Well being the consummate speed hor just avoid everybody in
the Marlins lineup. Now, if you look at the two
top end pitchers in reed draft leagues, yeah, Robbie Snelling
should definitely be a target. I talked to our good
friend Andrew mcquisten and he has done four drafts thus far.
He's got Snelling on all four teams. So yeah, he's

(01:07:54):
very very bullish, but.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
So he's ADP. So he's got him four out of
the twenty five drafts that have been finished. That's pretty funny.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Yeah. No, again, I'm I'm gonna look at Joe Mac
but that's just me. I could be I could be
wrong there, but I want to I want to try
and find a catcher this year, and when I start
looking at the at the Braves, I like your advice
on Alex Ladis. He's a guy that I'm going to

(01:08:27):
target and brings Brings Mackenzie the same, Patrick Clies probably
as well. There's some players in here, I think if
you're looking at augmenting the speed component of your game,
I think both teams have some interesting names that I
think are worth exploring.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
I think when we talk about the rest of the
three teams in this division, particularly the Mets, everybody's going
to have heard of these Mets guys and they're all
taken a dynasty league. So the more interesting players are
really on the Braves and the Marlins, even though a
lot of these aren't as you know, kind of famous people.

(01:09:08):
But everybody's got the Carson Binge and you know, everybody
knows the name of the Mets, right. We're gonna talk
a little bit about them in our next podcast coming up.
And the Phillies are chock full of famous guys as well,
particularly at the top. But these two systems we just did,
I mean, there's still some good players. I can't stress
enough how good the Braves, even though the denominator the

(01:09:31):
pool of fish they've got to they've got floating around
in there has been pretty small. They seem to get
a guy or two every year that either wins the
Rookie of the Year which they had this season, gets
really it performs really really well. So to me, that
says a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
The bang for the buck is definitely there with the
Brave system.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
Isn't it It is? And against for the amount of talent,
the breadth of their talent really not there. It's pretty
press of how they've been able to really get those
guys and identify them again them a shot.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
I totally agree and excuse me, And with that, I
want to thank you for the opportunity to interview you
on these two systems and looking forward to our next
session when we cover off the balance of the NL
Central