Fantasy Baseball Advice | Players Trending Up & Down, Prospects to Watch, MLB Injury Updates (Ep. 1064) - FantasyPros - Fantasy Baseball Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome in everybody to Fantasy Pros MLB. This is leading
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(00:25):
the home run streak. My friend dare I say he's
red hot. We got a lot to break down today,
the debut of Chase Burns, the return of Frankie Montas
that I guess I don't know, Welsh, I guess I
apparently jinxed. I guess that's that's the scenario. But where
I want to start in a different place though, I
want to start with Otani, who did go yard and

(00:47):
apparently everybody had him but me yesterday and I regret it.
I sat on the show yesterday. I am having shot
in Freuda, and sure enough, Showy tanis shining Friday to
the ball all the way out in Colorado. But there
was a really interesting interview on Pablo tore this week.
Tom House, who is renowned pitching coach, worked with NFL

(01:09):
quarterbacks too. He's the guy that worked with Nolan Ryan.
In case you don't know, everybody from Drew Brees to
Tom Brady, Tom House has been that guy in terms
of throwing mechanics, right, And I know everybody was kind
of like, you know, saying, well, you know, I think
Joe's overreacting to the show. HEO, Tommy, maybe he shouldn't
pitch anymore, Maybe we should just let this go. And
he had a fascinating take, well should I want to
get your take on this too, and everybody in the

(01:30):
chat too. He was talking about that he should solely
hit and not return to pitching due to all the
physical demands and the high potential for injury after undergoing
two Tommy John surgeries networked or the Tommy John had
the brace that now he's had both. And I thought
this was really interesting because this is coming from maybe
one of the guys who's arguably the best in the
business when it comes to our mechanics period, Like he

(01:50):
is a guru above gurus, and he was just talking
about the physical training of pitching and hitting, and it's
taking a so on and he's such a spectacular athlete
at the one, he's an MVP on ready, that it's
just not worth it, despite the contract he's getting. And
I know, you know, we kind of had a really
interesting debate about it last week, and I was just curious,
does Tom House's input at all change any of your

(02:13):
perspective on the Otani as the pitcher as we look
for him to pitch again this week.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Not one ounce, not even a hesitation. I think this
is just like opinion throwing out there, because it doesn't
matter what any single person thinks except show. Hey Otani,
he he runs this show. He's the one that was
out throwing, you know, just live sessions on the field
when the team wanted him to just throw it, you know,

(02:40):
a little side bullpen session, and he said, let's make
this count. Why am I throwing these competitive sessions and
not putting them in games? Let's do it. He runs.
How this goes? I bet for years there have been
meetings with the Dodgers about you know, the or the
Angels or whatever it is. There's been meetings about why
he shouldn't. There has been meetings when they signed the contract.

(03:02):
Why he shouldn't probably have this discussion ten different times,
different consultants, team people. It's blatantly obvious that the arm
stress of throwing and pitching can affect the hitting, and
like he's had the Tommy Johns and he kind of
keeps getting hurt and that pitching injury can take away
from the hitting. It's a detriment to that and it

(03:24):
is a risk, it's a massive risk, but none of
it matters because O'tawni wants to pitch, and Atani is
going to pitch until he is done pitching, and unfortunately
that's probably either going to be a the bad part
he has another injury and he's like, Okay, I'm really
detrimental in my career. I'm getting older, I can't do this,
or you know, it's just going to always work and

(03:45):
it's just going to lay a little injury here and there.
But no, I don't think, like I'll bet you every
single person has weighed in on this. This means absolutely nothing.
It will change no minds whatsoever. Otani is going to
do what he wants. It's kind of unicorn deal. He's
a unicorn player and he's I just truly believe he
will pitch until another massive injury comes and takes away

(04:07):
another season, a potential playoff runner, championship run, because it's
very different now, very different Otani than the Angels run.
The Angels, they were not making the playoffs. They stink.
It's just a couple of great players. Now, if Otani
is lost, it's a detriment to a potential championship winning team.
But him pitching.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
The Dodgers a playoff team without Otani.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, I think I think they're a playoff team. But
I'll tell you what, in that division, the.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Way they're current in that division, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
If I put them at third in that division, I
think the Giants might have maybe moved up. I think
the Padres would be the team to be. But in
the same breath of him being hurt and not being
there hurts the team. Him being a pitcher with all
those pitching injuries and pushing them one step further. He
was like, was it the two years ago? It's like
a top ten sp and he was like the best

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bat baseball.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
So I'm saying he's not talented enough to to No,
it's not like he's a mediocre pitcher. You know, when
no one's making that thing where it's like, yeah, really,
not that good of this. You should he's a gimmick. No,
he's great. But I think that all the great athletes
they want, you know, the superstar guys are on that
whole different level. They push themselves to limits that maybe
aren't healthy for them, and maybe I think that's where
management has a responsibility. Personally, I'm on the other end

(05:20):
of this where management has responsibility. Management has a duty
to the team, to the organization, to the ownership that
it makes investment a player that says, you know what,
maybe this isn't the best idea because you are helping
us so much and you are such a huge part
of our success last year without pitching, we won the
World Series with you, you know, and we can find

(05:42):
other guys to pitch. We can't find anybody else to
be show heyo, TONI and I just and I understand
the temptation of it. So it's a fascinating conversation. I'm
curious what everybody else has to say in the chat.
Go ahead, drop your comments. But I thought, you know,
it was very word I think, you know, when Tom
House says it, I think that's one that like for
me anyway, that kind of perked my years up again,
like Wow, that's somebody really knows what he's talking about.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
It, I guess, but I just don't see it as
like like, oh my god, just see the new.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Conversation. Yeah, but this is this is a fun, respectful
conversation to you and I where I think that you know,
we have difference of opinions about it, and I'm not
trying to change yours. You're not trying to change mine.
But it's it's a really the only thing that's going
to matter at the end of the day is the
success ultimately of Otani doing both and how long he
could do it for and then when he can't, what

(06:30):
does it look like and how bad is it? Because
if it's another McClanahan situation right where we don't see
him for a season or whatever, it's gonna be. Man,
that's gonna be real tough. Seven hundred million dollars just
down the drain where you don't have Otani, the MVP
hitter or the pitcher. I think at this point it's
getting a little.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Tight, and I think that's where it turns into like
and I told you so situation. Just by the public
and stuff.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
I told you you even said it it's inevitable. It's not.
I told you so, it's inevitable. But he will have
another pitching injury. Every picture does it's pitching.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
I mean, pretty it's funny. I was just watching so I.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Thought, I told you so, it's inevitable, and how bad
and when and how long?

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah, the severity of it, it's so funny. With a
friend does show. Justin Steele was doing an interview with
a foul Territory yesterday and just like off nonchalantly, they're
asking like, you know, hey, how's the rehab going, And
he's like, well, you know, he's like my first Tommy
John in twenty seventeen. It took this long and now
I'm in the second one. And it's like, you don't
have Tommy to Tommy John's in your career. Did you

(07:26):
have a career, Like that's kind of the point that
it is. So, yeah, there is an inevitability of it.
But I'd also say, like as much as pitching gets
money and the chase of pitching and the excitement, I mean,
this is a huge pitching day. This is Skeens versus
Misrauski day. This is a massive day for people because
you got the best pitcher in baseball with one of

(07:47):
the most ridiculous good young pitching prospects in baseball going
up against each other. Eleven zero hits. We're not talking
about like, hey, happy Ronald the Kunya hitting day. You know,
like pitching is a huge sell. It's a massive cell
for baseball. Every team is chasing it. What team is
great with their pitchers. We're like, oh, the Mariners and

(08:08):
they lost like three guys. So it is the temptation
of what is needed as far as pitching goes. That
is why he can do it at such high levels.
Gonna they're gonna push the boundaries until they have to
look themselves in the mirror and go, oh, you know,
maybe we did kind of screw this up.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
That's fine. I guess flags fly forever. At the end
of the day. A positive groud. Shout out to Solar
Flare as well for re subbing and Van Rod for
gifting two subs. We appreciate you. Let's get to some
more headlines here. Chase Burns debuted yesterday fan to eight.
He struck out everybody in the first couple of innings
and then the Yankees got to a little bit. I
watched this start Welsh. I don't know if you had
a chance to watch it, but he, you know, to me,
came off more as a thrower at this stage in

(08:48):
his career. The Yankees caught up to him, and I
think he's going to you know, when he pitches against
the Pirates, it's gonna be good days for Chase Burns.
And I think other days where he's pitching against teams
like the Yankees, it's gonna be a little bit tougher
for him because I don't think he's got that that
pitching acumen quite yet from what I saw. That was
my big takeaway from him. Impressive v Low, But again
Vlo isn't pitching. And you know, I'm more impressed with

(09:11):
Misroowski than I am with Chase Burns. If I'm just
putting it in the context about young pitchers so far,
I think like Miserowski's ball moves a little bit more.
I feel like Chase Burns again more of just like
here it is, you know, he's just gonna blow it
by you kind of stuff. The final points of pitching
I think are still a ways away for Chase Burns.
But still nonetheless certainly an impressive couple innings. I don't
know what your takeaway for.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah, well, first off, I almost nailed his line. I
said five three or the runs one homer given up,
but I said six strikeouts he had that after the
second inning. Yeah, I mean, I guess I kind of
see where you. I pretty much disagree across the board
that I don't think he's a thrower. If you want
to look at spin numbers, his slider twenty nine hundred
rpm plus fastball pushed twenty eight and average almost twenty seven.

(09:53):
He was spinning that fastball, touching one hundred and averaging
ninety eight. So and you talk about the movement, it's
now Misarowski, by the way, is like a technician of movement.
His like slider's ridiculous, but like this is well above
average and average twenty eight rpm, slider's ridiculous. He also
threw all three pitches fifty percent or higher in the zone,

(10:16):
So that's also not just a thrower that you know,
if you saw the fastball like forty percent or something like,
he's just guys don't know what it is and they're
going He was over fifty percent, which was good he
had a twenty nine percent with rate. But he's also young.
Like that's where I think more of this comes in. Sure,
this guy last year was hanging with me on the
backfields of the Reds, not throwing whatsoever. He had just

(10:37):
finished college baseball. He is less than a year removed
being into the majors and going up against the New
York Yankees. So I don't know. I thought the slider
looked good. The fastball is ridiculous. He threw out that
change up. It was a good pitch mix. I don't
know what more you could ask for. It's pretty not
uncommon for second or third time through, you know, for

(10:59):
hitters to kind of to pitchers, and pitchers have to adjust,
and that's what he has to learn the intricacies of
baseball and stuff like that. But I thought his stuff
was ridiculous and some pretty good command and some good spin.
Chase Burns looks all the part of like the top
pitching prospect in baseball. You could argue him, Mizzy, maybe
Bubba and Andrew Painter. That's like the big that's the

(11:21):
fantastic four of pitching prospects.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, I think he's, like I said to me, more
of a thrower at this stage. But like, because the
velocity is so good, you get away with it. Thom
Sever used to say, location, velocity, movement, right, those are
the three things you needed. But the order he would
put them in was very interesting because he would always say,
first one is location, location, location, that's all about.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
That's all baseball stuff.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Because now that wil I know, now it's v low
and you know what, I think it's wrong. I think
if you still move the batter's eye, it's really hard
for them to hit balls. If you throw one hundred
miles an hour, they can hit it down the pipe still.
I mean, it's a problem Hunter Green had, which is ironic.
It's the same organization right where Hunter Green, which is
like here's is I got a hundred hit it and
they were nice. One Hunter Green would get lit around
the ball park a little bit and give up a
lot of home runs because guys can catch up with that. Nowadays,

(12:06):
they're faster, they're you know, they work on these hitting
you know machines where they're pumping up to one hundred
plus mills.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
And I watched I watched Hunter Green literally from day one,
developed for over three years. And the thing that I
always stood out though, is he was just a dead
red center. He had no movement on that pitch. It
would just go. And that's the thing that is different
though with Chase Burns. Like I said, you can see
it whether it's visual or you want to look at
the numbers. Twenty eight hundred max on your forcing fastball

(12:32):
with almost twenty seven hundred rpm. That is a wildly
good fastball. I didn't look at the stuff plus numbers
after that after the game. I'm going to guess the
stuff plus numbers were pretty pretty high across these pitches,
and we'll have to see. He is the youngest of
all the other guys. That's the other thing to throw.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
That's also fair where I disagree that.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
He's like a thrower and stuff. The reason it looks
a little bit also is because it's like, you know,
like I said, ten months ago, this guy was just
walking around not throwing. He got the freaking fast track
to the majors.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
And there's one class That twenty twenty four class has
been I mean, you know, incredible, and we said it
last year. If you go back and watch that show,
we were so excited about that class, and you know,
we'll be doing that show again this year too, with
a twenty twenty five class Todd the Jackasses. Joe calling
Burns a thrower not want to go tiny pitch, seems
like he hates fun. Why do you hate fun, Joe?
I don't hate fun. I just want to help people
win fantasy leagues. Like That's what It's clear that it's

(13:23):
time for me to go to football full time soon
because I guess I'm too cranky for the audience. I
don't hate fun. I'm just saying I want to see
show that Tony every single day and him pitching every
fifth day. To me, you made all these investments in
the glass Nows and Yamamotos and the rookie Sazakis and
and and you know, Snell and all these guys, like
that's their job, Joey. Tony's job is to go fifty

(13:43):
to fifty again. That's what I want him to focus
on doing. And I just, you know, I just I
don't want to not have joey Otani. That's my problem.
All right, Let's talk about Frankie Montas. Oh, you shut
out the Braves for five inns. The Braves he was
hitting ninety six on the gun. He was up an
isle and a half as fast. But whoops. I mean,
you know, baseball just kicks you in the nuts every

(14:05):
single time. It's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Uh, guys and Joey that wee can agree on. And
whenever you think you got it and you got to
figure it out, no, like an insane.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Just I mean, I this was just I just laughed.
I was watching this, flipping back and forth, beeing this
in the Yankee game, just laughing, just like I chuckling
out loud by myself downstairs in the ballroom watching this game.
Spencer Striyder on the other hand of this game, three runs,
five innings, struck out eight, got out of trouble in
a big spot. Then it was a really long inning
when they didn't bring him back, which I understand, like,
just you know, we got the lead, he was down

(14:37):
three nothing, they came back and they took the lead.
Just take him out of the game and just move
on to the next By the way, yeah, oh I
loved it. That's what I want. I want. I want
Spencer Stryder Edgy ready to go. Rysoglesis, by the way,
got the save in that game, so it looks like
he's getting back in the good graces, so the window
is gone. During Schooble, he's pretty good. His ninth victory.

(14:57):
H he hasn't lost the game since his step get
started the season. Well, she just wanted to throw that out.
I thought that was Fun's actually ridiculous. Garret Crochet seven scoreless,
ten strikeouts for him and Pirates manager Did I just
say this yesterday where I'm done with oneo Cruz?

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Did I the devil did say you were done with
Oneil Cruz?

Speaker 1 (15:15):
He was removed tuesday for a quote lack of energy
and effort by the Pirates manager. And you know what,
there's same thing.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
I'm zeean there's context for this, though, I will say
there are two things. First off, Oneil Cruz did it
actually was just kind of dumbness, stupidity because he thought
there were already two outs, so when the ball came
in to second, he thought that was a third out,
which was why he, uh, you know, led up.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Still still stupid, still your head, but here's.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
What you do, like, took complete responsibility after and he talked,
he said, you know what he's like, I talked, talked
with him. I respect it and it and you know
this has happened. I have great leaders. He took full
responsibility for it. So just throwing that out.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
That ball in the outfield that he watched get by.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Yeah, that was one of the dumbest looking plays in
base I mean.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
I mean that's the problem. It's compounding. O'Neal Cruz has
a lot of talent, but O'Neal Cruz is I think
another one of these. There's a Gregory Polanco, you know,
even Starling Marte to a certain degree, where the Pirates
have a knack for finding these guys that are just
they look good doing it. But man, oh man, there's
just something missing, Like I don't know what it is.
It's like Dodgers is that other piece of the puzzle.

(16:27):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
I don't know, you know, I just think I want
to do this. It's something I used to do when
I was a kid, like in the MLB the show
Games was. I love to take, you know, whatever the
current landscape was in the video game, and I would
take and put all the players on their original drafted
teams and look at what those teams would look like.
And I just think back to the Dodgers. Dodgers had
O'Neal Cruz. They gave up on him. They had yord

(16:49):
On Alvarez, they traded him. Like, imagine what that Dodger
homegrown team could have looked like if they put it together.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
But you know, I forgot Alvarez was that.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
I know there's all those crazy trades where it's like
William Domas was was a Tiger, you know before he
was traded in the DATAI Rice trade, and.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
I remember the Damas.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
David Price has been involved in a couple of wacky moves.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
I feel like I kind of miss David Price. I
loved David Price when he was a recall.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Why don't you give a he's a friend of yours. Well,
let's get the transactions here. Let's start with the Cubs
who sent Ben Brown to Triple A. So apparently, again
another thing that's supposed to be a lock yesterday Ben
Brown at nighttime. Nope, Ben Brown was bad and he
has a six R and he's bringing it all the
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(17:59):
games out now, three and a half games out the
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moonn Ague is coming back. I look at the rest
of this rotation, and I keep saying to myself, Eventually,
this Cub Cinderella story is coming to an end. Even
Aga has not pitched well. His expected he alais in

(18:20):
the mid to high fours, so is his FIP. His
strikeout raids down, his walk rate is up. He is
not the savior I think right now this year unless
he completely turns things around from what it was earlier
in the season and Ben Brown didn't work out. I
know Boyd's been pretty good. We're really afraid of the
Cubs down the stretch with the pitching rotation as is
currently constituted, and do they have the chips in this

(18:41):
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I just don't think they do. And I think the
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Speaker 2 (19:23):
More interesting guess you know that the central is the
nod Mine, but it's the second. There's only two divisions
in all of baseball that four of the five teams
have plus run differentials. That is the NL West kind
of probably no shocker, and the NL Central all positives,
but they have the most even distribution. Four of the

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five teams have at least a forty plus or higher
run differential, so scoring more than others. I agree with
a decent amount of what you said in there. The
two things I would say is the Cubs do have
the assets to go make whatever moves they want. Their
system is loaded with lots of interesting prospects. And I
think a team not to sleep on is the Reds.

(20:04):
The Reds were the team that I was on in
preseason kind of let off. Interesting thing passing was talking
about that Reds and just watch out for them. You
talk about pitching, Lodolo, Hunter Green comes back, Brady Singer,
Chase Burns, They've got the trade assets. Yeah it man.
I actually think that could be a really, really fun division.
And I don't think anyone's a lock. And that's why

(20:26):
whether it's Cubs finish fourth, it wouldn't surprise you. Yeah,
that's why, Like whether it's your Brewers or you want
to back even a Reds or something like that, I
think they're all in play. Because as much as I
do believe that the Cubs have the pieces to make
some of those moves, I'm just not sure that they're
going to and the rest of the division has to
be aggressive as well. We keep talking everybody ships Sandy
al Contra to the Cubs, and it's like, okay, well
then why hasn't it happened yet? What if a team

(20:47):
like the Reds of the Brewers swooped in. They both
teams have pieces in their minds.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
I think better pieces of the Meths certainly do.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Also, the Cubs have closer to ready pieces, which is different,
showing Casey, Kevin Elkan, James Treanto's they've got the pieces.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Of Contra all contract trade. There you go, That's that'd
be fun. Cody and Anahey and Anaheim. Excuse me, this
take is exhausting, Joe.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
I'm so exhausted.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Cody's exhausted everybody showing he is the top ten sp
and he deserves to go into his arm falls off.
That's great, except when his arm falls off and he's
useless to all of us and the Dodgers. He's been
seven hundred million dollars in a player you're not gonna
see for Oh, I don't know, nine months, Like that's
a problem.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
But did my last injury, didn't he like not miss time.
It was just he had to stop throwing and he
just did. No.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
It was because of the timing of it. See, the
timing of it was a sense that it happened towards
the end of the year, if memory serves, and they
shut him, Remember it was the year that he was
supposed to be traded. Remember why I kept screaming on
the show trade showing on Tani Angels, you're not for real.
And then they kept him at a week later, showing he
got hurt in August. So by the time he was
able to like pick up a bat and swing a bat,
he was okay then. But the problem is, like again,

(21:54):
it was a little slow to that uptake as well.
But that's the problem is that the timing of it.
If the timing of this injury is April next year,
it wipes out your entire season practically, And that is
a lot to take on for a team that has
that much payroll and that much expectation.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
If Otani gets hurt pitching this year, it will be
the worst show.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
It will be.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
You know, Joe will wear the crown, the angel No.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Because I don't want it. This is not this is
not that whole thing, like word the garrickle. I told
you so, he's gonna have Tommy John and he did.
It was a little later than I thought, and I
knew he didn't look right to me the entire time.
This is going back to that same Otani conversation that
I had with the Angels, which is I was right
about that because the Angels were in a spot where
Otani was hitting and pitching and his value would never

(22:39):
be higher, and there was no way they were going
to compete with the big boys to bring Otani back.
It was never gonna happen. They could have remade that
whole organization. Do you realize that the Angels are basically
in last place in every single division of the minor leagues?
Have you seen this came out one of the worst
organizations you could have remade, rebuilt the Angels from the
ground up with four five prospects there that were major

(23:02):
League ready, and instead they fooled themselves and then thinking
we're somehow in this thing, acquired a bunch of B
minus guys, see minus guys, and then a week later
Otani got hurt. It was so stupid.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Well, okay, so then you know what the one thing
I agree in this entire Otani conversation with you is
is the biggest fumble was the Angels not getting anything
and letting him walk. How they did be look at
look at what a rental piece of oat of a
Soto had done. Just imagine what they could have done.
But the problem is is they can't. From top to bottom.

(23:35):
The organization is dysfunctional. They've been dysfunctional for years. And
how they treated the lower levels their overall development. They
don't let guys go to Triple A like I don't
know what they're doing. They need a complete overhaul and
they did. There's their system is laughable. It is laughable.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Oh, it's just terrible again. And that was the big point.
The bigger point was, no, he's going to go get
everything you can for him. Stop like all of a sudden,
what if they won the World Series that year? The
Angels when the World Series that year, he was gonna
magically stay.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Come on, you see this comment from Freda Cheney, which
is a great name by the Freda Cheney off radio.
Joe does this because it'll be gone by July and
Welsh will have to hear it when he gets hurt.
They're gonna leave me with the destruction and damage, which, yeah,
there's some of that.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
I don't want it. Tony so Wit Merryfield retired. Aw,
you know we marrifeld a pretty good career thirty six
years old. I mean, can you imagine returning retiring at
thirty six? Three time all star went from a nothing prospect,
remade himself into an All star, bounced around with a
couple of teams after his success with the Royals, But
a good career for Whitby.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
What I thought was really yeah, I mean it's funny
you say that, like we were practically that age when
we started our fantasy career, you know, and he's like retiring.
But you know what I thought was so wild about this?
He retired at nine years and this the writing must
have been on the wall. He stopped short of that
ten year marker. You know, if these guys play ten years,
you're then put into the god, I'm forgetting what the

(24:55):
word is it?

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Like?

Speaker 2 (24:56):
The you know, the ten year marker, you get the
insurance and your pay what's the.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Like?

Speaker 2 (25:02):
You know, like if you're a cop, what's that word?
The oh pension? Thank you? You're put in ten years? Yeah,
it's a ten year there's like that's why they have
they like pop bottles and they celebrate when players get
to ten years. They're put into like that. You know,
whatever the the there's a rev share for it's like
a pension.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
There's the ten years to qualify for MLB pension, a
minimum of one hundred and seventy two days on active
roster for those ten years. Wow.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Yeah, So he retired at nine, which must have been
so telling that there was zero point zero interest that
he could have just stayed on a roster to end
up getting that, because that's a huge, huge deal for
players to get there. It covers you for your life
and you know in at least some capacity. But there
must have been zero interest from him, which is pretty telling.

(25:48):
And you know the hall of fame he'll be talking
to is that the pretty Good Hall of Fame on
Twitter will probably be calling for him.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
No one else though, Oh he's not a Hall of
Fame or he's not even the whole of very good.
He's also have you seen that account, by the way.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
The Hall of pretty Good or the Hall of Yeah,
I think it's called the Hall of pretty Good. It's
a Twitter account that they actually have Like there's some
like you can't be this, this, this, And they get
players to interact with them, and they're electing every week
a player of the Hall of pretty good and you
get like Denard's Span got in and he did like
an acceptance speech. Yeah, Eric Hosmer got elected to it.

(26:23):
It's a pretty fun.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
He's not even there. Wit and Merryfield I put in there.
He's a dude.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
I think he's going to get thrown into there. I
don't think they'll give him a pench I would take.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
I think I think he's had a better career than Hosmer.
Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
I think Hosmer had a better Hosmer.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
I think Osmer had higher expectations and then everybody just
assumed he was better than he was. He go back
to look at the numbers, like, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
I actually I kind of always loved Hosma. Hosmer is
like a really cool and he became a padre. He
was just a nice guy on the backfields when no
one really cared about them as well. But he won
a championship, did Wit? I don't think Maryfield won one?

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Did he? Uh? Was he on the twenty fifteen team.
I mean, now, I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Now I'm curious. I'm gonna look, I gotta look up Eric.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Had to be after because it's nine years you just
said it. Richard fitz is coming back. So if the
dick fits you put it in that rotation, folks. Rookie
LOOKI Christian Moore two for four with two homers, including
the walk off yesterday. Very exciting. Marcelo Mayor three for four.
He's only hitting two sixteen though, but he does have
four home runs, so at least it's for some power.
Michael Tolia three for five with three doubles. Look at

(27:22):
him hitting doubles all over to place the doubles machine
and chase the latter. Two for three with a triple,
two walks, two runs, filling up the stat sheet at
triple A. Columbus, Do you have an answer to that
question there?

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Hush, Yeah, so it was real quick with hotling time. Yeah, no,
you were well. I did Hosmer. I didn't do Mirrifield yet.
Hosmer might be the pinnacle of the Hall of pretty good.
He had he won a twenty fifteen World Series, which
I think that would mean Witt was not there. He
four Gold gloves, a Silver Slugger, an All Star MVP.

(27:55):
I think that's the quintessentials.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
I think all of very good. I'm thinking magle Wardoniez
like I'm thinking Carlos Lee. Actually, those are the names
to me, those are the dudes that had like thirty
one hundred seasons. Arrek Cosmer didn't sniff thirty one hundred seasons,
like give this hold on, Carlos Lee checked this out
thirty one thirteen, thirty one, ninety nine, thirty two one, fourteen,

(28:18):
thirty seven one, sixteen, twenty eight, eighty one then thirty
two one, nineteen twenty eight, one hundred twenty. Holy crap,
Carlos Lee, Ladies and gentlemen, can we? I mean he
played for thirteen fourteen seasons.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Paula pretty good by the way, Maryfield.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Carlos Lee is the hall very good.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Maryfield had three All Star games and that was it.
No nothing else, no World Series, no anything fun.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Fact on CBS, the most dropped player last weekend was
Jack Lighter. I didn't even look for that. It just
kind of popped out at me when I was doing
research for the Waiver Show today. Woh, I just wanted
to share that Todd Bradley, good news for him. He's
been awful. He took a no hitter into the six
so well, she said the other day on the show.
And I think he's totally right, which is some day
TODs Bradley, like four years from now, is gonna pop
off and become the todsh Bradley we all want him

(29:03):
to be, because he has starts like this that remind
you of how good he might be able to be,
but it just never consident.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
It's gonna be like Max Freed level, you know, like
he's just like Bradley will be just kind of average average,
and then all of a sudden he's gonna win like
seventeen names.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Zach Wheeler.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Zach Wheeler was that, Yeah, Zach Wheeler just kind of
Wheeler was like yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Sam fran prospect, the Mets couldn't get him right and
like whatever, and then the Phillies paid him to be
the Zach Wheeler he could be, and then he was
like that's pretty.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
By the way, Tod Bradley three point sixty six expected
era about a full run lower than he currently has.
He's lowered the strikeouts, though, I just don't think it all.
I don't know if it'll happen this year, but like
I said, just put it a pin in it in
a couple of years from now when TODG Bradleys like
seventeen wins and just remember this.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Tyler Freeman, We're gonna talk about him, by the way, Thrasher,
I see your quote here. We're gonna talk about him
on the Waiver Show today, so make sure you tune
in for that, recording it right after the show. Ups
and Downs. Nico Horner a really good day for him,
three for four with a homer two score. Joey or
teas on or twice and Riley glean Green, Riley Green,
everybody if Matt Dog Ruth Riley Green if five with

(30:07):
a double and a couple runs God and a couple
of rib for the tiger they killed the a. The
athletics are terrible, well shee the athletic? How bad at A?
That is the worst. The downs Chris Paddock boy the boy.
The Twins pitching is just just the worst right now.
Four earns for him. Uh, his era has jumped from
three to five to four six by the way, over

(30:28):
his last three starts.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
The Twins are just have you trusted Chris Paddock. You right, No,
it's just it's.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Just so sad because the twinkies are just like just
one after the other.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Not to shame you or anything like that or pick
up shame, but like you're as.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Jamison, Tyan got rocked around. Eight runs for him again
the Cubs pitching and Louis Severino never disappointed. Seven runs
for him, giving up in five innings. Injuries. Max Meyer
done for the year surgery on the UH on the
labril hip area. So that doesn't sound too good, but hip.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Surgery would be like the worst. Am I wrong?

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Well, it says it's a six to eight month recovery
and if you put that generously, he should be ready
for the beginning of next year. Theoretically, yeah, you could
do that. Do with that as you will, But it
looks like Max Meyer's becoming one of these guys that,
like what could have been Sean Maniya, what could be
for him is another couple of days off. He got
a cortzone injection. There was some loose bodies in his
elbow apparently. I you know Ron Darling was talking about

(31:27):
he said he had the same thing twice and it's
just about pain. Tolerance. So get your courtzone shot and
then get out there and pitch. Is basically what Ron
Donkling was saying. You gotta love those eighty six mets,
you know, smoking a cigarette, do a line of cocaine.
They go out there and pitch, you.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Know, not on time. We both did the same thing
without with the mess.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
So all right, I'm ready to go. Let's go pitch.
Let's go. Michael Harris he had an elbow contusion. Uh,
he is out after getting hit by a pitch. Zach
Netto jammed his shoulder. Uh, he's having test on Wednesday.
Bryce Eldridge diagnosed with a hamstring strains, so he's gonna
miss about a month. So you might not see Bryce
Elders this year with the Big Club at all. You know,

(32:04):
Sarez MRI later this week, So fingers crossed for the
Diamondbacks because if he's hurt, this is a huge loss
for their trade chips, like they I mean, Suarez is
the trade chip, and if they don't have that side, I.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Do think it's gonna be one of that They got
to choose between Naylor and Suarez unless they can get
a deal done. But it's all about getting a deal done.
Naylor is supposed to be back today. I think that
it makes most sense. What I would want is for
them to trade Suarez because I think he has a
lot of trade equity. Keep Naylor and Lawler goes to third,
or if they trade Naylor, you can move your hanny

(32:36):
O to first and then you can make room for
Lawler in the future. But they really do need to
move one of these guys because that team is just
they're cooked. They're cooked. Corman Carroll just you know, fractured wrists,
and we found that confirmation. It's even worse. So Yo Hannio.
If MRI comes back clean, I think we're gonna see Suarez.
I think I really do think he's going to be
the one moved, even though they love him.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Check out these Maglio Ordnia stats while you're had, because
I saw Carlos Lee so I got thirty one, seventeen,
thirty two, one, twenty six, thirty one, one thirteen, thirty eight,
one thirty five, twenty nine, ninety nine, then he had
White Hurt. Those are White Sox years, and then Detroit
twenty four, one oh four, twenty eight, one thirty nine,
twenty one, one oh three and the best part is

(33:18):
like it's like even strikeout to walks. He's like striking
out sixty four times and walking sixty times, Like what
a stud. That's the hall. Very good. Maglio, Ordoni's and
Carlos Lee were always the cornerstones for me.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
I think I love love Matt Matt, I remember loving
magleo Ordonios too.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Oh, both those guys. You were also Carlos Quinton guy
too for that Hall.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Gosh, that was I've told the story, but I called
I was on a radio show as as a tech,
and I called Carlos Quinton hitting a homer in his
first at bat in his first game to the radio host,
and the next day the radio host had to like
just eat it and give me credit. It was. It
was phenomenal. I love Carlos Quinton. I think he's Todd
coaching redeemings now sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
No, Todd's redeeming himself in the chat. Uh, Maglio is
greater than Harold Baines. I agree, And Carlos Lee, after
going through those dads, is better than both of them.
So I don't know if we suspect Carlos Lee was
a guy who had special vitamins or not. I don't know,
but I never heard anything about it. All I know
is that that dude was balling. Carlos Lee. I just
took it for granted that he was so good.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Now I want to know what both of them are
doing right now.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Well, hit his ten years, so he's all right, he's
he's hanging out there. Rees Olsen is gonna make a
rehap start today. Actually, your Nolvarez is hitting off a
tee just like many children in the Tri State area
tea ball season. Alex Vanoa through a twenty five live
batting practice session, Garrett and Mitchell was diagnosed with the
left shoulder injuries to require surgery. So that's bad news.

(34:43):
And more news from the Brewers because well, Brandon Woodriff,
it's coming back to rehab. The prodigal son returns to rehab.
I've been waiting for you here at rehab, Brandon Woodriff,
just waiting here for you. You know what this is, You
know what going to happen next. Once you come back
to rehab, You'll never leave. You'll be here all summer

(35:06):
along with me. Joey p Dark Joe in rehab in
Toledo or Triple A Nashville, or wherever the hell they're
playing today. That's where you're going to be forever and ever,
stuck in rehab. I hope you've brought all your things
with you. I'm waiting.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
I want. I need a photoshop of like a puppet
master and it's Joe's face and it's a little Brandon
Woodruff is the doll. That's what I desperately need that.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Oh yeah, they tried to send him a rehab and
he's like, no, no, no, all right, let's get to
the best bets of the day with Joey p in
the Welsh. It can't be worse than yesterday.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Holy crap, I was pretty good.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Montass and Ben Brown. You know, you do all that work, well,
you do all the work and all the data makes sense,
and you're like, this is good, this is good informative
betting advice, and then you just take a match to it.
Lighting on fire happens Texas run line against the Baltimore
Orioles today. Let's start there plus money on Jacob Degram.
I'll take it. Young is on the mound. Sigano is

(36:09):
not making the start today, so Young gets a start
instead for Baltimore. I'll take the Texas Rangers against the
Baltimore Orioles minus one and a half on the run
line at plus money. Also plus money run line. We've
got the Philadelphia Phillies with Zach Wheeler on the mound
against the Houston Astros, so I'll take that one as well,
and then give me the straight up money line plus
one twelve. I think the Twinkies are imploding, and George

(36:29):
Kirby is on the mound for the Seattle Mariners, so
give me Seattle plus money. So three plus money plays.
What could go wrong? Welsh? Where are you going for
your best best today?

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Well, I've got all pitching strikeouts. It's a strikeout bonanza here,
and I have been. I've been rolling a lot of
two and one days, but it has been not very
prop heavy, so we'll see how this goes. But I
am in it and I like it. It's Paul Skimes,
not just Paul Skeens, but it's like the number of
the bit the cheeze. I think it was from Wedding
Grassers or whatever, but it's Paul Skiens. Over seven and

(37:00):
a half strikeouts is an extra e That's why I'm
doing it for people listening. Paul Skins over seven and
a half strikeouts. It's plus money plus one point fifteen.
He is going to be ramped up even a little
bit more going up against Mizerowski. There's some strikeouts in
play with the Brewers, for sure. You know, anytime you
can get, you know, plus money on a very obtainable

(37:21):
strikeout run for Paul Skins, I'm gonna take it, and
I think old school, thank you. It was an old school,
not wedding crashers. I'm pretty comfortable with this one. McKenzie
gore as well. Now, McKenzie Gore, one of your top
strikeout pitchers in baseball. The reason this number is low
is the San Diego Padres, which I get, but is
also revenge narrative. He's going up against his old team,

(37:43):
a lot of players he came up in the system
with six strikeouts. McKenzie gore. He's got the stuff to
get to these guys. I actually feel very confident about
this one. It's a very low number. Six strikeouts, McKenzie gore.
And then my final one, I'm going with an under
on the strikeouts Scherzer under four and a half strikeouts.
It's a little juiced up. I love playing this one.

(38:06):
He hasn't really been great in the miners. The guardians
don't really strike out. He doesn't really have that crazy
big strikeout stuff. Right now, I'm taking the under on
Max Scherzer. I think he's gonna get hit around a
little bit. I'm not sure he's gonna be able to
sniff this. So under four and a half strikeouts on Sureser.
So we got overplus money, overplus money and juiced under
on the strikeouts. Those are my props, my final ones

(38:28):
of the week.

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(38:52):
Pros app today. I knew I was gonna regret not
taking Otani yesterday. I had it, I took it out
of the sheet and so mad and Wakee Penguins. A
twenty six in twenty three is the number? Wells just
right there, you're at what twenty two?

Speaker 2 (39:03):
I think I'm at twenty one. I think I just
got to twenty one, so I'm still I'm at twenty. Yeah,
I'm too off the board. I'd have to have a
pretty killer week, and I'm not here for two days,
so I either have to go perpetuity or I'm gonna
have to, you know, try to get it in on
it while I'm at the dance competition. I might be
able to call some homers.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
We'll see. Where's Joe Rico and Mike Mayer and worm
on this? Even in twenty and ten, we're on Joe Rico.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
I don't think he's really played it very well. I
don't know, I.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Knowestly, I don't nineteen.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
I don't know if Mayor has been playing it this year.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Well, that's that's sacrilege.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
That is that's very sad.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Oh, dare you host the show, be the discord guy
and not participate in the home run?

Speaker 2 (39:41):
And how about this? How about people given Joe piece
of pia crap about leaving when football comes in? And
yet the Great Mike Mayer, who doesn't grace us with
his presence in the chat anymore, doesn't do the home
run content. Very disappointing.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Yeah, Garret crouche eate another great start. You know, no
videos anymore, nothing, Very disappointed. All right, I'm going to
show you all Tani today. So I'm gonna do people
who refuse to take him two days in a row,
I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna just do it. Plus
one eighty two? Where are you going for your home
run call?

Speaker 2 (40:10):
You know, this is like I love the play itself,
but I think there's a little more narrative to this
as well. I don't know if everybody saw this, but
yesterday kud Tell Marte was seen like crying on the
field and people thought there was speculation because of Vargas
had hurt himself. So maybe they were good friends. People
thinking maybe trade. But there's this really bad incident where

(40:31):
a fan yelled something about Katel Marte about his mother
who had died in a car crash in twenty seventeen.
Really disgusting scene and it really hit Kotel Kuatel wears
a lot of like bright colors in pink in kind
of remembrance. Kutell is a great guy. You know, me
and him are great friends, by the way. We hang
out in the backfields and stuff on my Instagram with pictures.

(40:51):
Kadtell is a great human being, and you could tell
I felt for the emotion. For a lot of people
try to hold back stuff, you know what I mean.
He did not hold back. It affected him. They threw
this idiot out. Hopefully he gets banned and all that,
and there's you know a lot of people circling around Katel,
which I love. I love that for him because that
was a really gross scene and you just feel bad

(41:12):
for him. Kotel's going to step up today. Katel is
a gamer. He's going to step up today, and I
think I might get too. And it's going to be
a great story. I think, what a beautiful story will
be after that gross incident for him still in Chicago
to go in today, be at the top of the
lineup and drop a bomb. So I'm going with Kateel
Marte for my home run call today and if I

(41:34):
don't change it, he'll be my imperpetuity, by the way,
but I will try to be paying attention. Might even
drop into some of the chats by the Way, and
some of the shows. While you guys are rocking while
I'm out.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
And today Wednesday, four pm Eastern, you could join us
live on the YouTube channel for We'll be watching who knows,
maybe Eve Misowski and everybody will still be pitching at
that time. I think they have two o'clock start, two
fifteen stars.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Oh, I think we're on a four good call on that. Yeah,
because we go.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Catch the end of that game more likely.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Yeah, it would have been amazing if it was going on. Yeah,
that game starts now, it's two hours.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
We'll get a rain delay. Yeah, the Angel what's going
on during.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Angels, Red Sox Padres Nationals will be going on as
we go live.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Okay, so have a little Baseball Live, take your questions,
have some fun, talk about the stats of Maglia, Ordonia's
and Brian Giles. Another guy was really good. That's the
whole very good.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Brian Giles.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Brian Giles, Here we go, Brian Giles. Marcus John nine
thirty five one, twenty three, thirty seven, ninety five, thirty eight,
one oh three, twenty eighty eight, twenty three, ninety four
is pretty good years. That's a pretty good run, right, there,
Eric Cosmer, doesn't sniff that Denard span get out of
here with that trash. That'll do it for us, but
the story of the game goes on for the Welsh.
I'm Joey p. We'll see you next time. Kids. Get

(42:46):
out of here, Eric Cosmer.

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