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June 6, 2025 68 mins

Thirty-six years ago this week, the Chinese Communist Party crushed pro-democracy protests in Tiananmen Square with tanks and bullets. The death toll? Certainly in the hundreds, probably in the thousands, and deliberately hidden by the Communist Party of China.

How did that massacre reshape China’s path, and what did it mean for Beijing’s relationship with the U.S. and the West?

Host Cliff May sits down with his FDD colleague Matt Pottinger, Chairman of our China Program, to discuss Tiananmen’s legacy and global consequences.

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