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June 5, 2018 62 mins
In this episode, we honestly and frankly explore our feelings on turning 30 and then being in our 30s. Jamie had a lot of feelings about turning 30, while Jessica divulges an unpleasant feeling about WHY she didn't feel many negative feelings about turning 30. It gets real! We discuss our friendship break-up (yep, we broke up for 4 years and then got back together). Lots to unpack here and boy, do we unzip the suitcase and let loose! We talk about stability versus passion. Mental health and the importance it plays in both our lives. We also discuss how neither of us can create when we're not emotionally stable, going against the cultural ideal of the starving, impassioned, manic artist. THINGS MENTIONED: - Jessica's Communication Arts feature
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