Catch up on all the footy news from AFL 360, Monday 30th June with Gerard Whateley and Leigh Montagna.
Tom Lynch is facing the biggest suspension of the modern era after being charged for a deliberate strike against the Crows, Carlton are still in trouble as the concerns around Michael Voss' future only grow as Montagna steps in for Gaz.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Tom Lynch sent directly to the tribunal.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
For a wild strike that has the Richmond forward staring
at the longest suspension of the season.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Michael Voss safe for now as the Blues commit to
calm and rational decisions while bringing forward.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Graham Wright's takeover and our.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Coaches are heading for a Thursday night of historic proportions.
Alistair Clarkson and Luke Beveridge together at the desk.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
You've talked about is this step into it, embrace all.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Of it in the room and eat it. It's unedifying
for a senior coach to do that. They're on the
side of Cautia with the brain, take the man on.
They played the best footy I've ever seen at the
start of the season, and in said the president left
the cup of older say, of course they do. Is
the stuff that legends are made of.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
What is holding the ball?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I don't think I could answer it clearly right now
that I could do.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Something wrong, you know, And I need to get and
the boards actually.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
The fans lover and with no fans, no through sixty
year old, all.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
The angles of round sixteen are ahead of us and
with Gas taking his Byley Montagna and welcome back to
the three sixty deaths.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Seek you, Jerry, different seat, big shoes to fill, but
looking forward.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
To one seat closer to the throne.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Nice of you to have me too, So thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
All right, the god forsaken by round zar Oh, so
I thought, just a little recap of what's happened. It's
not that the ladder really made sense at the end
of round eleven, but it made more sense than it
did in any of the weeks in between. So my
game of snakes and ladders. It was a disastrous period
for gold Coast and it was excellent for Fremantle, which
emphasized how important it was that they pulled that out
of the fire yesterday, and everybody else made incremental gains. Well,
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the Giants actually went three and one, but lost a
place on the ladder.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
That doesn't make sen Yeah, that is weird, that's strange.
I mean, I'm glad we through the by periods. Let's
be honest, it's it is too long. We'd got to
cut that back. I think two's probably the right option
next year. But yeah, there's been some change, and they
said gold Coast they needed that win. That would be
disastrous for them if they to let that slip. It's
unfortunately there's not too many teams from the bottom nine
that are making a jump.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
So we deliberately cut that at nine because we're living
in a two speed economy.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
We are, aren't we.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
And it's a shame because we've still got eight rounds
of footy to go. So it's going to be interesting
to see what these nine teams and their purpose and
what they play for and how they go about it.
Obviously trying to win now, but also planning for the
future has to be in there, thinking if they can't
play finals this season. But amazing that you've got the
top nine teams playing the bottom nine in round seventeen.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
It's emphasized there's already a gap.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
It could be even bigger.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
It's only the third time, I think in eight years
that that's actually happened top nine the bottom nine. What
is fascinating that there will be an upset, someone will
slip up, so you don't want it to be your
team when the top eight, the top nine is so competitive, Yeah,
so how do the bottom nine exist?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
But you're right, is in the top nine if you're
the team that fumbles the game here and there, the
cost could be extreme because there's only seventeen games left
Top nine versus top nine, so they'll be the shapers.
But it's the ones that teams will fumble when you're
starting to cost them a play.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
See when you start looking at the predictor and start
expecting the top teams to win all these games, there'll
be one. There might even be two that are going
to let one slip, and that could be costly, not
just top four, but could be the team that finishes ninth.
But you're fascinating with the teams that aren't going to
be in the finals race and how they go about it,
because if you've got to find your purpose, you've got
to be planning for the future as well, but still
setting the right culture and winning habits of trying to
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win the remaining eight games of the season, Mister.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Trick, with the wild card having we had as a
live possibility would have been very helpful for the remainder
of this season. Alistair Clarkson and Luke Beverige, you're going
to join us at the desk and then on the couch.
Jack Revolt, Jordan Lewis, Jonathan Brown and Nathan Buckley so
fully stocked as they look to the events of the
previous rounds. Tomorrow night Players Night, Harry mckaye will be here,
so the Carleton perspective is so fascinating at the moment.
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And Nick Blakey from Sydney. They look a threat, but
they're too far back. Ray Chamberlain, we might put him
to work on the umpiring of all the Tom Lynch scenarios.
It might be particularly timely as the tribunal comes to
its close. And then John Longmeyer Simpson with one hundred
year celebrations at North Melbourne. They'll be an intimate part
of that. And Dyson Daniels is going to join us
(04:06):
on Wednesday night in the studio, the hot thing from
the NBA who loves his tigers more than anything else.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
He's at the MCG on Sunday. He sat in the
outer We couldn't believe it. You'd think he'd be up
in the box sitting on champagne. But Dyson was amongst
the people are loving.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
It, love it, love it all right now, this is
the big responsibility. It's a one round of the season
that the GVPS will not be in Gary Lyon's hands.
Here's the estimation of the most valuable players. With great
power comes great responsibility because the keys to the muster
are yours. Here you can ruin the whole thing. Three
votes tips it in a certain direction. Value at ninety
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three thousand dollars. Iconic design, unreal performance, five lit of
V eight engine, no unaccountable halfbacks, no defaulting to midfielders.
And with great power comes great responsibility. And there is
great power inside this vehicle.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
While in nervous, I hope I do gas proud. I'm
a bit nervous going with this moment. I've tried to
stick to the crits. I think I've done a reasonable
job and I've kept it pretty safe. I haven't gone
to outlandish. But for the one vote, it was hard
to go past the old boy Jack gusting to kick
your personal best in game two hundred and seventy two.
He's turning thirty four years of age in a couple
of months and to go out and kick seven. I
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know it was a big win against North Melbourne, a
little bit off Broadway down in Tazzy, but the year
that he's having.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I mean, he's sixth in the Colemans. We didn't even
know at the start of the year.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
To be honest, if he was going to be in
their best team, if all their key forwards were fit
and available. But he's just using his smarts in his
goal now. He's not necessarily doing it with long searching
leads and the ability that he did ten years ago.
But he's still finding a way to hit the scoreboard.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
The joy that he gives his younger teammates is just
so beautiful. It's almost like his teammates of fans in
these moments.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
They call him Dad or something. Him and Luke Bruce.
So he gets the one vote. I thought he was sensational.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Two votes.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I'm going with a second year player that it wasn't
just a breakout game. It was a power powerful performance.
And that was Dan Kurtin at the MCG yesterday to
see him live and up close and what he is
capable of. I mean, I called him he's the next Unicorn. Really,
when you think about Blitzervs and Luke Jackson and Sam
Darci one hundred and ninety seven centimeters, he'd be somewhere
close to one hundred kilos. But to be able to
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run like he can, the athleticism to play up the
ground twenty six touches, two goals, eleven score involvements.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
He can intercept the ball.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
They have just got another weapon that they are just
scratching the surface of the Sadela Crows team.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
The course of his career is so interesting. He was
a riveting figure in the draft as to where he
was going to end up high for a long time
and then slipped. The start of his career didn't look
like he had a position, and now he's got every position.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
The Blitzebs comparisons are a really good one. All right, three
three votes.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
It's hard to go past the Western Bulldogs on Friday Night.
Joel Fraser, I thought this he was the difference in
this game. It started to look a little bit hairy
for the Western Bulldogs in the third quarter when isaac
Ene was going nuts at one end, and then Joel Fraser,
another second year player, says I can match you and
kick three of his own in the third quarter when
they needed some of them more.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I'm giving him the.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Three votes Jeriors, because I love when the superstars are
slightly down.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
So Bond was in his best.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Richards was getting sat on bailey Dale second half. But
this guy's a stand up pick forty five What a steal.
This is what a luxury for the Western Bulldogs to
have this young man. I think the only teenager wet
of only three teenagers to have four goals in twenty
o touch alongside Dusty Martin, Harley Bonnell. He was sensational.
I'm not sure if he's got votes before. I don't
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think he has. John just say welcome Joel. All right,
and he's been in touching distance of danger.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
You haven't disrupted the leader I don't want to go
any the leaderboard there.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Well done.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
We'll pick up that conversation with a coach a little
later on, Joe Frasier. Let's get to the agenda and
at the top of it, Tom Lynch will answer at
the tribunal tomorrow night for a wild afternoon at the
MCG three chargers in all the headline acts for his
roundhouse strike that will have the AFL seeking the biggest
suspension of the season.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
This is in a lot of trouble.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Here totally and chas absolutely touch Tots in the back
of the head.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
That is shade is very hard. Get him from here
to go? What I done? He's lost his head.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
He home week lost it.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Wow, He's gonna have to get him off, like he's
lost the boy.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
He has lost it?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Did Shi get the boy off?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
No excuse with his response, but I can understand his frustration.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
He apologized to the group because.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
He knew he let him down.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I didn't want to cause harm or anything like that.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
I was just trying to get pray or whatever in
frustration came out and it's not been enough to later.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I was just more frustrated with how he's defending.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
Me, I thought, and clearly he was winning rules because
no free kicks ordered me and I went outside the rules.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
So yeah, would be better. I almost there, Guys, Please,
I'm not saying here compy this.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
If it had made contact, he would be serving eight weeks.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
He's going to be out of the game for a while.
That will be a big talking point.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
He will get.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
Waits for that.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
We haven't seen anything like that in years.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
It was a rare and ugly moment.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
And then demand's serious consequence and that will happen to
the tribunal tomorrow night. So Joey, there are a couple
of possibilities here. There was the provision within the way
that the laws are written that the match review officer
could have given Tom Lynch four weeks and just somewhere
summarily handled it like that, But he has referred directly
to the tribunal.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
So that gives you the indication that the.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
AFL will seek greater than four, and four is the
highest suspension of the season so far. I also think
there's the layer of it belongs at the tribunal. There
should be a level of accountability for this, not just
signed off behind the scenes. Is Lynch fronts and answers
for his actions, and the judicial system gets to say
is if you land this in the way that it
(09:53):
was thrown. This is Andrew gaff and Barry Hall territory.
So those are eight weeks suspensions, and I think in
this envine it would have been higher. So I anticipate
that they'll seek five tomorrow night, three charges throughout the
course of the afternoon. You're on judy. I always think
if you've called the game, you've got a great feel
for it. So the first for the wrestle, which costs
(10:14):
him three grand, there's a striking misdemeanor there, so it
doesn't cross the threshold, but it earns him a flyne
and then the headline at just as it was unfolding.
What did you sense? Your sense he had the red
mist going. He was right on a fine, a fine line.
He was already giving away free kicks. I think you'd
given away.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Five three kicks before he'd had a disposal, and you
could sense the frustration building. To be fair, I don't
think anyone would expect to see what we saw. That
caught everyone by surprise because, as we said, you're in
the court, we haven't seen anything like that for years.
I think it was twenty eight and it might have
been the Gap incident, So it was surprising, but there
was no doubt it was bubbling away. And I just wonder,
I mean, the coaches come out and he's come out
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and said it was the frustration, probably the way that
he was getting treated from Jordan Butts. I wonder where
there was a frustration about him for how he was playing,
Whether there was a sense of embarrassment and frustration that
he couldn't touch the footy and it just got too
much for him and he lashed out.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
And he's going to pay the price, there's no doubt
about that.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
And it's going to go to the tribune and I'm
with you, I think that's the right call.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
It's just going to.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Be interesting that whether is there is there in a
world where the lawyers weave their magic and they can
get this downgraded.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
So the AFL could have.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Taken the four and not had the opportunity to challenge.
But you think it's okay to go with the trib.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
It's the right principle to go and ask for five.
Say the tribunal comes back with four, you go, well,
the league did its job. So the provision around the
risk of causing injury is usually one category, So this
is a rare moment. It moves from medium to high
to severe and then it goes beyond the minimum of
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three around severe.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
So this is the.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Stretch goal for a stretch moment. And I do think
the whole industry needs to do its job here, and
that's the tribunals not to get beguiled by the lawyers.
Is the right level of punishment? Is A is a
confronting one. So Nash gets his four weeks for the
roundhouse on Myers and the ball is there, like it's
a good point agricultural, The ball is there. This has
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to be the biggest suspension of the year for what
it might have led to. I also think with Lynch,
it's an interesting moment. It's highly unlikely he's going to
play in the next successful Richmond team. They're doing exactly
what they should be doing at the moment, and it
looks like they're going to run out of puff in
the back end of the season. So he's going to
have to find a way to manage all of this.
He's going to be the key forward in the last
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of his years in a team that is not going
to be instantly successful. He's going to draw attention. He's
going to have to manage this for the remainder of
his playing days, and if he can't, he probably needs
to get out of it.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
It's a good point.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I mean, this is a highly competitive player who was
in premierships and in great sides. He has to completely
change his mindset now it's not going to be like
it was. He can't let the frustrations boil over. He
needs to start thinking about the team instead of himself.
That is his role in the side now felt up
until yesterday. I know it how poorly he played, but
he did have a role in that team to help
the youngsters, the Johnsy Falls and Armstrong.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
When he plays to guide them through.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
But you're right, he needs to change the mindset completely
about what he is going to expect and what he
needs to expect from himself otherwise, right, maybe he says,
you know, if it's too hard for him, put his
hand up, so maybe I can go to a contender
for another year or two. He thinks he's got it
in him, but he's gonna have a lot of work
to do on himself and his leadership around the club too,
because they're all looking at him. That's what these young
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guys are looking for, and he's let himself in the
team down.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah. It's a sobering moment for him and it'll have
its full ramifications tomorrow night. The opening moments of the
rounds involved Carlton. It really did reverberate all the way
through the rest of the weekend of forty. What would
the ramifications of this die performance for the Blues be.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
It's hard to describe what we're thinking. I'm shocked, to
be honest.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
It's like the football world has just caved in on
top of.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Them, and I know what to do.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
The question now is whether lack of us is starting
to lose the group.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
A A nightmare on Adelaide over.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
I'll continue, like Carlton, you don't this is ugly.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
You'd have to be able to look at the start
of the game and sort of go back and say,
we'll have prepared. Were we to prepare the style of
football that we wanted to play, how hard do we
want to go with that?
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Really is the answers we weren't. It doesn't really matter
what the Magnets are going to do. It's the effort
that the players put on. It's just not up to
stand at the moment.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
They're devoid of confidence, they look to be devoid of hope,
They've been devoid of skill in the first half. They're better.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Players have got to be better. They've got to perform,
They've got to lead the way turn it around.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
I don't think it's more about turning around, and the
US does become about what we tell you and what
you do find out a lot about is your character,
your football team, football club.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Right now?
Speaker 6 (14:54):
What I feel right now as a leader is I
feel really disappointed for our people, enormously disappointed, enormously disappointment,
not where we want to be.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Michael Voss, moving down towards the bench, this is something
we haven't seen for a while. Michael Voss coaching from
the bench. So either that or going home, no world.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
It was a carbon prospect that it was worse in reality,
and they walked to Friday night foot now against their
old rival Collingwood with Brisbane thereafter. For how that performance
happened is sort of riveting in its own right, and
then there's a much bigger picture. So I felt the
game against North Melbourne was the collapse of hope and
belief in the middle and I felt like this was
(15:37):
PTSD on Thursday. It was the trauma cycle. Is they
had lived this doom loop before, and I reckon they
got trapped in it. They've got more than a third
of their season to go, so you sort of have
to rationalize compartmentalize it. And then this team's got its flaws,
but it's not that bad. No, They've rarely played like that.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
The one thing you can say about card is they've
generally given great effort.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
That is been true.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
But the first thing I suppose, how does that performance coming.
Sometimes you need to remind people they are human, so
they're coming into this game with human emotions, with thoughts,
with concerns, with self preservation with what ifs, and then
sometimes if you've got too many players thinking that way,
it can unravel really quickly, and there probably would be
a heavy burden on some of the leaders. I think
there'd be some others that have just said the life
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were sucked out of them last week knowing finals out
of the question, So all of a sudden, the motivation
is changing.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
What are we playing for?
Speaker 3 (16:28):
And I think it just all culminated in that week
that they hadn't sorted it out, They hadn't been able
to work out what's driving us, what's the motivation, what's
the purpose, what does it look like? And they got
the performance they did, so I think that'll be the
conversation this week they would have had internally, is right, Okay,
let's forget about finals. Let's just get back to what
do we want to stand for? What are we going
to do for these last eight weeks of the year.
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And I'm expecting a response in their effort, And if
it's not and they don't play and they play something
similar again, or they don't give the effort they've shown generally,
then it's a concern for Michael Voss in the back
end of the season, because then it does look like
maybe the players are choosing say, well, we're not playing
for the coach, But I don't expect that. I think
the group will respond and play with some heart, you'd hope.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
So anyway, there had to be a level of intervention
I reckon for Carleton's to be able to poise and
set themselves for what's to come. And it needed to
come from the top, and it did. As the president
Rob Priestley front of the cameras today.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
There's a little noise around your senior coach. Will Mohel
be the coach in round one twenty twenty six.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Yeah, Voss's contracted until the end of twenty six. That
doesn't change. I think what we're trying to do here
is as I said then, is really focus on the
next eight weeks, get ourselves into the very best possible position,
addressing things that we need to address, and then that
gets us into the end of the season where we
can in a really calm and measured way make decisions
if we need to make them then but you know,
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we're focused on the next eight weeks and Voss's our coach.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
The form continues the way it's doing. You can't see
a world where Michael is not coaching, to see how
he's contract in twenty twenty six. I think of just
answered that.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
So we will go through the next date weeks. Everybody's
focused on that, the coaches, the players, and then we
will assess our season in this entirety at that point
in time, and we will make rational and calm decisions.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
So you had to create an environment where there is
no imminent risk of sacking. I think that was absolutely
critical to get back to work and to everyone is
on edge at Carlton because there's no review. But Graham
writers the fresh blood. He's going to take over on
August fifteen, which makes all the sense in the world
is he gets a couple of weeks at the end
of the home and away season and then immediately that
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it finishes, he will roll out his plan, which presumably
he would take to the board, have ratified, and then
get to the business. Now, because of the way the
industry is geared, it finds in on Michael Voss. It
includes Voss, but it's much bigger than Voss. As to
what they're going to do. Are they going to crack
their list open? What do they do with their management
of the football department, what do they do with the
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senior coach and with his coaching staff. Typically what would
happen is there would be a review instituted now. But
what Carltner's will served is it's been going since December.
Graham Wright is the fresh eyes. He's seen it all.
He will make his judgments. And I truly believe this
is anyone who thinks what anyone who thinks they know
what right is going to do.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
I Reckon's making it up.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
He has had no cause to tell anyone anything, hasn't
laid a plan out for the board. Brian Cook still
has his hands on the wheel. He has been able
to work his way through it to come up with
what will end up being calm, rational and measured decisions.
But there's no need to articulate as those to anybody
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just yet.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
So we wait to see.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
But I do think the purpose of today is to go,
get back to work eight weeks nothing. The world is
not going to end next week if you lose bye
hundred points of calum and it's not going to end
the week after. So go and don't waste the last
third of the season.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Now, I thought I spoke perfectly because you don't want
to say he's going to coach till the end of
his contract because you can't guarantee that, but you can
guarantee get through at the end of the season. As
they said, make those calm decisions, and I think I
think Michael Voss needs that too, because, as we said earlier,
with the teams that can't play finals, there is an
element of still playing for the now, but you need
to also keep it to start looking at the bigger
picture and what it's going to look like next year.
(20:15):
So the last thing Carlton would want is Michael Voss
coaching for himself and picking guys that he feels safe
with and a style. So if he gets that support
and at the end of the season, you can sit
down and say, right, so the last eight weeks, what
did it look like while we brought in some fresh blood,
We're playing some VFL players, we tinke it with a
bit of our style. All those things will come into
it and as you said, they will make the calm,
calculated decisions then.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
So I like it. It puts the players.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
At ease as well that the Voss is going to
be there, so they can get to work and hopefully
you get to see a response from the playing group.
But there's no doubt there's going to be changed. That's
with Graham, right, will do. It's just a matter of
how much and where it starts.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Yeah, and changes needed warranted, but what is proportional and
how do you go about it? So yeah, I just
think it takes the air out of it a little bit,
knowing that the next two weeks are fearsomely difficult. Hopefully
they as a result they can get the rise after
the collapse, because it really was the collapse on Thursday
and a bit in the trade space today. So Kaltumi
reported late in the afternoon that Miles Bergmann is going
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to accept a two year extension to remain at Port Adelaide.
I was watching their game on Thursday night and Mark
Raschuda was talking about it. It's hard to keep him
because he's blossomed.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
They're keeping him.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
And the second part of this will Faulkner in our
building here is because Sint Kilda has come away from
the pursuit of Bergmann to concentrate on the retention of
Thesia Wangon and Miller.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Yeah, it's fascinating and for all reports as much as
every club in Victoria would have been keen to meet
with Miles Bergmann.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
I believe it didn't really even get to that.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
He was just waiting and assessing, and Saints worth the
keenest and probably at the start of the season probably
it did lean like it was going to head that way.
Now the fascinating parties have they withdrawn their interest? Does
that mean that they are nervous about keeping the Zio
Wangon Miller and have had to just increase their off
for a bit, or maybe they've already done that and
they feel comfortable and confident that Asia is going to
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re sign, and they've just sort of readone the books
maybe and thought, you know what, we've got maybe Tom
Deconey coming in. We've kept the Zai Wangoney Miller at
a high price. Maybe they've also got something else in
the works and said, you know, we don't want to
go down the Bergman path because we need to trade
for him and we're happy with where we're at.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
So that's what Saints fans be hoping.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
The other ways that they're nervous that this means and
Kilda are really digging deep to try and keep those.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
What Saints fans would fear is that somehow Wangoney Miller
lines up with Bergmann but just at the other all.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Well, and that's what Port Adelaide to be hoping for now.
It's a great get for Port Adelaide first of all.
I mean he's ascending in a Raider knots this season
to elevate the top fifty player in the game.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
The next one's going to be Zach Butter's. That's the
next big fignature.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
But if they can land the Zaire as well and
keep Zach Butters, Josh Carr's got a few toys to
play with you.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yes, yeah,
Tom Lynch sent directly to the tribunal.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
For a wild strike that has the Richmond forward staring
at the longest suspension of the season.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Michael Voss safe for now as the Blues commit to
calm and rational decisions while bringing forward.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Graham Wright's takeover and our.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Coaches are heading for a Thursday night of historic proportions.
Alistair Clarkson and Luke Beveridge together at the desk.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
You've talked about is this step into it, embrace all.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Of it in the room and eat it. It's unedifying
for a senior coach to do that. They're on the
side of Cautia with the brain, take the man on.
They played the best footy I've ever seen at the
start of the season, and in said the president left
the cup of older say, of course they do. Is
the stuff that legends are made of.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
What is holding the ball?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I don't think I could answer it clearly right now
that I could do.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Something wrong, you know, And I need to get and
the boards actually.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
The fans lover and with no fans, no through sixty
year old, all.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
The angles of round sixteen are ahead of us and
with Gas taking his Byley Montagna and welcome back to
the three sixty deaths.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Seek you, Jerry, different seat, big shoes to fill, but
looking forward.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
To one seat closer to the throne.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Nice of you to have me too, So thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
All right, the god forsaken by round zar Oh, so
I thought, just a little recap of what's happened. It's
not that the ladder really made sense at the end
of round eleven, but it made more sense than it
did in any of the weeks in between. So my
game of snakes and ladders. It was a disastrous period
for gold Coast and it was excellent for Fremantle, which
emphasized how important it was that they pulled that out
of the fire yesterday, and everybody else made incremental gains. Well,
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the Giants actually went three and one, but lost a
place on the ladder.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
That doesn't make sen Yeah, that is weird, that's strange.
I mean, I'm glad we through the by periods. Let's
be honest, it's it is too long. We'd got to
cut that back. I think two's probably the right option
next year. But yeah, there's been some change, and they
said gold Coast they needed that win. That would be
disastrous for them if they to let that slip. It's
unfortunately there's not too many teams from the bottom nine
that are making a jump.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
So we deliberately cut that at nine because we're living
in a two speed economy.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
We are, aren't we.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
And it's a shame because we've still got eight rounds
of footy to go. So it's going to be interesting
to see what these nine teams and their purpose and
what they play for and how they go about it.
Obviously trying to win now, but also planning for the
future has to be in there, thinking if they can't
play finals this season. But amazing that you've got the
top nine teams playing the bottom nine in round seventeen.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
It's emphasized there's already a gap.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
It could be even bigger.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
It's only the third time, I think in eight years
that that's actually happened top nine the bottom nine. What
is fascinating that there will be an upset, someone will
slip up, so you don't want it to be your
team when the top eight, the top nine is so competitive, Yeah,
so how do the bottom nine exist?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
But you're right, is in the top nine if you're
the team that fumbles the game here and there, the
cost could be extreme because there's only seventeen games left
Top nine versus top nine, so they'll be the shapers.
But it's the ones that teams will fumble when you're
starting to cost them a play.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
See when you start looking at the predictor and start
expecting the top teams to win all these games, there'll
be one. There might even be two that are going
to let one slip, and that could be costly, not
just top four, but could be the team that finishes ninth.
But you're fascinating with the teams that aren't going to
be in the finals race and how they go about it,
because if you've got to find your purpose, you've got
to be planning for the future as well, but still
setting the right culture and winning habits of trying to
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win the remaining eight games of the season, Mister.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Trick, with the wild card having we had as a
live possibility would have been very helpful for the remainder
of this season. Alistair Clarkson and Luke Beverige, you're going
to join us at the desk and then on the couch.
Jack Revolt, Jordan Lewis, Jonathan Brown and Nathan Buckley so
fully stocked as they look to the events of the
previous rounds. Tomorrow night Players Night, Harry mckaye will be here,
so the Carleton perspective is so fascinating at the moment.
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And Nick Blakey from Sydney. They look a threat, but
they're too far back. Ray Chamberlain, we might put him
to work on the umpiring of all the Tom Lynch scenarios.
It might be particularly timely as the tribunal comes to
its close. And then John Longmeyer Simpson with one hundred
year celebrations at North Melbourne. They'll be an intimate part
of that. And Dyson Daniels is going to join us
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on Wednesday night in the studio, the hot thing from
the NBA who loves his tigers more than anything else.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
He's at the MCG on Sunday. He sat in the
outer We couldn't believe it. You'd think he'd be up
in the box sitting on champagne. But Dyson was amongst
the people are loving.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
It, love it, love it all right now, this is
the big responsibility. It's a one round of the season
that the GVPS will not be in Gary Lyon's hands.
Here's the estimation of the most valuable players. With great
power comes great responsibility because the keys to the muster
are yours. Here you can ruin the whole thing. Three
votes tips it in a certain direction. Value at ninety
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three thousand dollars. Iconic design, unreal performance, five lit of
V eight engine, no unaccountable halfbacks, no defaulting to midfielders.
And with great power comes great responsibility. And there is
great power inside this vehicle.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
While in nervous, I hope I do gas proud. I'm
a bit nervous going with this moment. I've tried to
stick to the crits. I think I've done a reasonable
job and I've kept it pretty safe. I haven't gone
to outlandish. But for the one vote, it was hard
to go past the old boy Jack gusting to kick
your personal best in game two hundred and seventy two.
He's turning thirty four years of age in a couple
of months and to go out and kick seven. I
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know it was a big win against North Melbourne, a
little bit off Broadway down in Tazzy, but the year
that he's having.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I mean, he's sixth in the Colemans. We didn't even
know at the start of the year.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
To be honest, if he was going to be in
their best team, if all their key forwards were fit
and available. But he's just using his smarts in his
goal now. He's not necessarily doing it with long searching
leads and the ability that he did ten years ago.
But he's still finding a way to hit the scoreboard.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
The joy that he gives his younger teammates is just
so beautiful. It's almost like his teammates of fans in
these moments.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
They call him Dad or something. Him and Luke Bruce.
So he gets the one vote. I thought he was sensational.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Two votes.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I'm going with a second year player that it wasn't
just a breakout game. It was a power powerful performance.
And that was Dan Kurtin at the MCG yesterday to
see him live and up close and what he is
capable of. I mean, I called him he's the next Unicorn. Really,
when you think about Blitzervs and Luke Jackson and Sam
Darci one hundred and ninety seven centimeters, he'd be somewhere
close to one hundred kilos. But to be able to
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run like he can, the athleticism to play up the
ground twenty six touches, two goals, eleven score involvements.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
He can intercept the ball.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
They have just got another weapon that they are just
scratching the surface of the Sadela Crows team.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
The course of his career is so interesting. He was
a riveting figure in the draft as to where he
was going to end up high for a long time
and then slipped. The start of his career didn't look
like he had a position, and now he's got every position.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
The Blitzebs comparisons are a really good one. All right, three
three votes.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
It's hard to go past the Western Bulldogs on Friday Night.
Joel Fraser, I thought this he was the difference in
this game. It started to look a little bit hairy
for the Western Bulldogs in the third quarter when isaac
Ene was going nuts at one end, and then Joel Fraser,
another second year player, says I can match you and
kick three of his own in the third quarter when
they needed some of them more.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I'm giving him the.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Three votes Jeriors, because I love when the superstars are
slightly down.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
So Bond was in his best.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Richards was getting sat on bailey Dale second half. But
this guy's a stand up pick forty five What a steal.
This is what a luxury for the Western Bulldogs to
have this young man. I think the only teenager wet
of only three teenagers to have four goals in twenty
o touch alongside Dusty Martin, Harley Bonnell. He was sensational.
I'm not sure if he's got votes before. I don't
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think he has. John just say welcome Joel. All right,
and he's been in touching distance of danger.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
You haven't disrupted the leader I don't want to go
any the leaderboard there.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Well done.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
We'll pick up that conversation with a coach a little
later on, Joe Frasier. Let's get to the agenda and
at the top of it, Tom Lynch will answer at
the tribunal tomorrow night for a wild afternoon at the
MCG three chargers in all the headline acts for his
roundhouse strike that will have the AFL seeking the biggest
suspension of the season.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
This is in a lot of trouble.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Here totally and chas absolutely touch Tots in the back
of the head.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
That is shade is very hard. Get him from here
to go? What I done? He's lost his head.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
He home week lost it.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Wow, He's gonna have to get him off, like he's
lost the boy.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
He has lost it?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Did Shi get the boy off?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
No excuse with his response, but I can understand his frustration.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
He apologized to the group because.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
He knew he let him down.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I didn't want to cause harm or anything like that.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
I was just trying to get pray or whatever in
frustration came out and it's not been enough to later.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I was just more frustrated with how he's defending.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
Me, I thought, and clearly he was winning rules because
no free kicks ordered me and I went outside the rules.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
So yeah, would be better. I almost there, Guys, Please,
I'm not saying here compy this.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
If it had made contact, he would be serving eight weeks.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
He's going to be out of the game for a while.
That will be a big talking point.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
He will get.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
Waits for that.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
We haven't seen anything like that in years.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
It was a rare and ugly moment.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
And then demand's serious consequence and that will happen to
the tribunal tomorrow night. So Joey, there are a couple
of possibilities here. There was the provision within the way
that the laws are written that the match review officer
could have given Tom Lynch four weeks and just somewhere
summarily handled it like that, But he has referred directly
to the tribunal.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
So that gives you the indication that the.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
AFL will seek greater than four, and four is the
highest suspension of the season so far. I also think
there's the layer of it belongs at the tribunal. There
should be a level of accountability for this, not just
signed off behind the scenes. Is Lynch fronts and answers
for his actions, and the judicial system gets to say
is if you land this in the way that it
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was thrown. This is Andrew gaff and Barry Hall territory.
So those are eight weeks suspensions, and I think in
this envine it would have been higher. So I anticipate
that they'll seek five tomorrow night, three charges throughout the
course of the afternoon. You're on judy. I always think
if you've called the game, you've got a great feel
for it. So the first for the wrestle, which costs
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him three grand, there's a striking misdemeanor there, so it
doesn't cross the threshold, but it earns him a flyne
and then the headline at just as it was unfolding.
What did you sense? Your sense he had the red
mist going. He was right on a fine, a fine line.
He was already giving away free kicks. I think you'd
given away.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Five three kicks before he'd had a disposal, and you
could sense the frustration building. To be fair, I don't
think anyone would expect to see what we saw. That
caught everyone by surprise because, as we said, you're in
the court, we haven't seen anything like that for years.
I think it was twenty eight and it might have
been the Gap incident, So it was surprising, but there
was no doubt it was bubbling away. And I just wonder,
I mean, the coaches come out and he's come out
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and said it was the frustration, probably the way that
he was getting treated from Jordan Butts. I wonder where
there was a frustration about him for how he was playing,
Whether there was a sense of embarrassment and frustration that
he couldn't touch the footy and it just got too
much for him and he lashed out.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
And he's going to pay the price, there's no doubt
about that.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
And it's going to go to the tribune and I'm
with you, I think that's the right call.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
It's just going to.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Be interesting that whether is there is there in a
world where the lawyers weave their magic and they can
get this downgraded.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
So the AFL could have.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Taken the four and not had the opportunity to challenge.
But you think it's okay to go with the trib.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
It's the right principle to go and ask for five.
Say the tribunal comes back with four, you go, well,
the league did its job. So the provision around the
risk of causing injury is usually one category, So this
is a rare moment. It moves from medium to high
to severe and then it goes beyond the minimum of
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three around severe.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
So this is the.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Stretch goal for a stretch moment. And I do think
the whole industry needs to do its job here, and
that's the tribunals not to get beguiled by the lawyers.
Is the right level of punishment? Is A is a
confronting one. So Nash gets his four weeks for the
roundhouse on Myers and the ball is there, like it's
a good point agricultural, The ball is there. This has
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to be the biggest suspension of the year for what
it might have led to. I also think with Lynch,
it's an interesting moment. It's highly unlikely he's going to
play in the next successful Richmond team. They're doing exactly
what they should be doing at the moment, and it
looks like they're going to run out of puff in
the back end of the season. So he's going to
have to find a way to manage all of this.
He's going to be the key forward in the last
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of his years in a team that is not going
to be instantly successful. He's going to draw attention. He's
going to have to manage this for the remainder of
his playing days, and if he can't, he probably needs
to get out of it.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
It's a good point.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I mean, this is a highly competitive player who was
in premierships and in great sides. He has to completely
change his mindset now it's not going to be like
it was. He can't let the frustrations boil over. He
needs to start thinking about the team instead of himself.
That is his role in the side now felt up
until yesterday. I know it how poorly he played, but
he did have a role in that team to help
the youngsters, the Johnsy Falls and Armstrong.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
When he plays to guide them through.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
But you're right, he needs to change the mindset completely
about what he is going to expect and what he
needs to expect from himself otherwise, right, maybe he says,
you know, if it's too hard for him, put his
hand up, so maybe I can go to a contender
for another year or two. He thinks he's got it
in him, but he's gonna have a lot of work
to do on himself and his leadership around the club too,
because they're all looking at him. That's what these young
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guys are looking for, and he's let himself in the
team down.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah. It's a sobering moment for him and it'll have
its full ramifications tomorrow night. The opening moments of the
rounds involved Carlton. It really did reverberate all the way
through the rest of the weekend of forty. What would
the ramifications of this die performance for the Blues be.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
It's hard to describe what we're thinking. I'm shocked, to
be honest.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
It's like the football world has just caved in on
top of.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Them, and I know what to do.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
The question now is whether lack of us is starting
to lose the group.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
A A nightmare on Adelaide over.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
I'll continue, like Carlton, you don't this is ugly.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
You'd have to be able to look at the start
of the game and sort of go back and say,
we'll have prepared. Were we to prepare the style of
football that we wanted to play, how hard do we
want to go with that?
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Really is the answers we weren't. It doesn't really matter
what the Magnets are going to do. It's the effort
that the players put on. It's just not up to
stand at the moment.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
They're devoid of confidence, they look to be devoid of hope,
They've been devoid of skill in the first half. They're better.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Players have got to be better. They've got to perform,
They've got to lead the way turn it around.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
I don't think it's more about turning around, and the
US does become about what we tell you and what
you do find out a lot about is your character,
your football team, football club.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Right now?
Speaker 6 (14:54):
What I feel right now as a leader is I
feel really disappointed for our people, enormously disappointed, enormously disappointment,
not where we want to be.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Michael Voss, moving down towards the bench, this is something
we haven't seen for a while. Michael Voss coaching from
the bench. So either that or going home, no world.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
It was a carbon prospect that it was worse in reality,
and they walked to Friday night foot now against their
old rival Collingwood with Brisbane thereafter. For how that performance
happened is sort of riveting in its own right, and
then there's a much bigger picture. So I felt the
game against North Melbourne was the collapse of hope and
belief in the middle and I felt like this was
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PTSD on Thursday. It was the trauma cycle. Is they
had lived this doom loop before, and I reckon they
got trapped in it. They've got more than a third
of their season to go, so you sort of have
to rationalize compartmentalize it. And then this team's got its flaws,
but it's not that bad. No, They've rarely played like that.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
The one thing you can say about card is they've
generally given great effort.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
That is been true.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
But the first thing I suppose, how does that performance coming.
Sometimes you need to remind people they are human, so
they're coming into this game with human emotions, with thoughts,
with concerns, with self preservation with what ifs, and then
sometimes if you've got too many players thinking that way,
it can unravel really quickly, and there probably would be
a heavy burden on some of the leaders. I think
there'd be some others that have just said the life
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were sucked out of them last week knowing finals out
of the question, So all of a sudden, the motivation
is changing.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
What are we playing for?
Speaker 3 (16:28):
And I think it just all culminated in that week
that they hadn't sorted it out, They hadn't been able
to work out what's driving us, what's the motivation, what's
the purpose, what does it look like? And they got
the performance they did, so I think that'll be the
conversation this week they would have had internally, is right, Okay,
let's forget about finals. Let's just get back to what
do we want to stand for? What are we going
to do for these last eight weeks of the year.
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And I'm expecting a response in their effort, And if
it's not and they don't play and they play something
similar again, or they don't give the effort they've shown generally,
then it's a concern for Michael Voss in the back
end of the season, because then it does look like
maybe the players are choosing say, well, we're not playing
for the coach, But I don't expect that. I think
the group will respond and play with some heart, you'd hope.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
So anyway, there had to be a level of intervention
I reckon for Carleton's to be able to poise and
set themselves for what's to come. And it needed to
come from the top, and it did. As the president
Rob Priestley front of the cameras today.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
There's a little noise around your senior coach. Will Mohel
be the coach in round one twenty twenty six.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Yeah, Voss's contracted until the end of twenty six. That
doesn't change. I think what we're trying to do here
is as I said then, is really focus on the
next eight weeks, get ourselves into the very best possible position,
addressing things that we need to address, and then that
gets us into the end of the season where we
can in a really calm and measured way make decisions
if we need to make them then but you know,
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we're focused on the next eight weeks and Voss's our coach.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
The form continues the way it's doing. You can't see
a world where Michael is not coaching, to see how
he's contract in twenty twenty six. I think of just
answered that.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
So we will go through the next date weeks. Everybody's
focused on that, the coaches, the players, and then we
will assess our season in this entirety at that point
in time, and we will make rational and calm decisions.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
So you had to create an environment where there is
no imminent risk of sacking. I think that was absolutely
critical to get back to work and to everyone is
on edge at Carlton because there's no review. But Graham
writers the fresh blood. He's going to take over on
August fifteen, which makes all the sense in the world
is he gets a couple of weeks at the end
of the home and away season and then immediately that
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it finishes, he will roll out his plan, which presumably
he would take to the board, have ratified, and then
get to the business. Now, because of the way the
industry is geared, it finds in on Michael Voss. It
includes Voss, but it's much bigger than Voss. As to
what they're going to do. Are they going to crack
their list open? What do they do with their management
of the football department, what do they do with the
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senior coach and with his coaching staff. Typically what would
happen is there would be a review instituted now. But
what Carltner's will served is it's been going since December.
Graham Wright is the fresh eyes. He's seen it all.
He will make his judgments. And I truly believe this
is anyone who thinks what anyone who thinks they know
what right is going to do.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
I Reckon's making it up.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
He has had no cause to tell anyone anything, hasn't
laid a plan out for the board. Brian Cook still
has his hands on the wheel. He has been able
to work his way through it to come up with
what will end up being calm, rational and measured decisions.
But there's no need to articulate as those to anybody
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just yet.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
So we wait to see.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
But I do think the purpose of today is to go,
get back to work eight weeks nothing. The world is
not going to end next week if you lose bye
hundred points of calum and it's not going to end
the week after. So go and don't waste the last
third of the season.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Now, I thought I spoke perfectly because you don't want
to say he's going to coach till the end of
his contract because you can't guarantee that, but you can
guarantee get through at the end of the season. As
they said, make those calm decisions, and I think I
think Michael Voss needs that too, because, as we said earlier,
with the teams that can't play finals, there is an
element of still playing for the now, but you need
to also keep it to start looking at the bigger
picture and what it's going to look like next year.
(20:15):
So the last thing Carlton would want is Michael Voss
coaching for himself and picking guys that he feels safe
with and a style. So if he gets that support
and at the end of the season, you can sit
down and say, right, so the last eight weeks, what
did it look like while we brought in some fresh blood,
We're playing some VFL players, we tinke it with a
bit of our style. All those things will come into
it and as you said, they will make the calm,
calculated decisions then.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
So I like it. It puts the players.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
At ease as well that the Voss is going to
be there, so they can get to work and hopefully
you get to see a response from the playing group.
But there's no doubt there's going to be changed. That's
with Graham, right, will do. It's just a matter of
how much and where it starts.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Yeah, and changes needed warranted, but what is proportional and
how do you go about it? So yeah, I just
think it takes the air out of it a little bit,
knowing that the next two weeks are fearsomely difficult. Hopefully
they as a result they can get the rise after
the collapse, because it really was the collapse on Thursday
and a bit in the trade space today. So Kaltumi
reported late in the afternoon that Miles Bergmann is going
(21:11):
to accept a two year extension to remain at Port Adelaide.
I was watching their game on Thursday night and Mark
Raschuda was talking about it. It's hard to keep him
because he's blossomed.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
They're keeping him.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
And the second part of this will Faulkner in our
building here is because Sint Kilda has come away from
the pursuit of Bergmann to concentrate on the retention of
Thesia Wangon and Miller.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Yeah, it's fascinating and for all reports as much as
every club in Victoria would have been keen to meet
with Miles Bergmann.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
I believe it didn't really even get to that.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
He was just waiting and assessing, and Saints worth the
keenest and probably at the start of the season probably
it did lean like it was going to head that way.
Now the fascinating parties have they withdrawn their interest? Does
that mean that they are nervous about keeping the Zio
Wangon Miller and have had to just increase their off
for a bit, or maybe they've already done that and
they feel comfortable and confident that Asia is going to
(22:03):
re sign, and they've just sort of readone the books
maybe and thought, you know what, we've got maybe Tom
Deconey coming in. We've kept the Zai Wangoney Miller at
a high price. Maybe they've also got something else in
the works and said, you know, we don't want to
go down the Bergman path because we need to trade
for him and we're happy with where we're at.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
So that's what Saints fans be hoping.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
The other ways that they're nervous that this means and
Kilda are really digging deep to try and keep those.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
What Saints fans would fear is that somehow Wangoney Miller
lines up with Bergmann but just at the other all.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Well, and that's what Port Adelaide to be hoping for now.
It's a great get for Port Adelaide first of all.
I mean he's ascending in a Raider knots this season
to elevate the top fifty player in the game.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
The next one's going to be Zach Butter's. That's the
next big fignature.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
But if they can land the Zaire as well and
keep Zach Butters, Josh Carr's got a few toys to
play with you.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yes, yeah,
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