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August 25, 2025 • 23 mins

Catch up on all the footy news from AFL 360, Monday the 25th of August with Gerard Whateley and Garry Lyon.

Gerard Whateley and Garry Lyon return for a big edition of AFL 360, recapping the huge games of round 24. The panel break down the all important Fremantle v Western Bulldogs clash with finals hopes on the line for both teams. Gerard and Gaz then debate what the Dogs must do over summer to fix their list and push for a top-four spot by 2026. They also assess Brisbane’s title defence and how the Lions have stayed in the hunt despite plenty of obstacles in 2025.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Adelaide claimed the minor Premiership, completing the rise from fifteenth.
The man at the Helm, Matthew Nicks, joins us an.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Ultra impressive Freemantle book a home elimination final. Well, the
Bulldogs are left to count the cost of another lost
opportunity and an emergency session.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Of raises Edge as the Hawthorne community rages over the
vagaries of insufficient intense.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
We talked about is a step into it, embrace all.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Of it in the room and reason it's unedifying for
a senior coach to do that. They're on the side
of Courtia with the brain tape. The man on they
played the best footy I've ever seen at the start
of the season and into the president left the cup,
I order said.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Of course they do. It is the stuff that legends
are made of. What is holding the ball?

Speaker 2 (00:46):
I don't think I could answer it clearly right now.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
I can do something wrong, you know, and I need
to gain and the boards actually.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
The fans lover and with no fans, no through sixty
year old.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
The final round yas really does have a dynamic all
of its own.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
It does.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
It's a unique period of the football season, you know,
and anything it happened.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
We almost had some upsets and it's not finished.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
It He still wonder go.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
It's still wonder go indeed, So don't get end of yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Start giving me the finals run down until the bomb
Stars need to skip over because.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
We're salivating over these qualifying two.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
We can lock in.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yes, so the final series will start in Adelaide on
Thursday night. What a blockbuster this is. We're just there
with a record crowd and all the acrimony and tension
that was involved in that it gets reprised it to
start the finals and then the next night at the MCG.
The best final of last year was the preliminary final
between Brisbane and Geelong, and that's that's not about starting

(01:48):
point either.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
So full house at Adelaide, close to it at the MCG,
and then we'll work the other two out after after Winsday.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
And we'll be watching live ladders and percentages and new Mardgeons.
You know we will. This is the way our week
lines up. So we've got privileged access to the coaches
and the lead up to the final series. Matthew knicks
tonight the minor premier, so he has the honor raises edge.
Where do you sit on the insufficient intent depends how
much you want to upset Hawthorne fans.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
We'll see, yeah, brave you are, Jude, and.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Then we're our courtzet ready on the couch to dissect
all that happens and what it means for what's to
come Tomorrow nights. I'm not sure we've ever had a
better guest lineup than this the past three premiership coaches
Chris Scott, Craig McCrae and Chris Fagan. So if you
want to go deep on finals footy, tomorrow's the night.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
And Simon Goodman looking that game, what about me twenty
twenty one, He's not getting.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
A look in this year. It's ver quickly changes. It's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
And all three of those coaches and the coach tonight,
their stories are unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
We'll celebrate them Wednesday night. Game night, so we'll do
the pre match show. We'll come on after AFL tonight.
We'll set you up for Gold Coast and Essendon. A
historic moment for the Suns to try to qualify for
the finals for the first time. Then first crack immediately afterwards,
all the analysis and that's when we'll know the finals
matchups and then Thursday night is special in its own right.
These are the AFL Awards, so the All Australian team

(03:09):
will be unveiled, as well as the Coaches Association's Player
of the the MVP, the Lee Matthews Trophy to be
handed out the best Captain, the most courageous in the
best first year player. So award season comes Thursday night.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
It's all happening, Jared, We'll get it. I think it's
great that we get all these things done in the
week off. If we're going to have we must have
a week off. Then these things must be put to bed.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Here. I'd like to have the Brownlow attacked into there,
but it's not.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
And then we get stuck in the final series and
then the g GVP.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
So not only is this the most sought after all,
it's the tensest count I've ever seen ever. The President
of Ford is righting this. How many joint leaders have
week got I've got fair news. The Mustang GT fastback
value that ninety three thousand dollars. It might go into
a least year arrangement. The way this is going, iconic design,
unreal performance five LI the v eight engine. It goes

(04:01):
who had the vote's gone to from round twenty.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Four ninety three thousand dollars worth of motor vehicle there, Jared,
and right now, our great friend, the President of Ford
who joined us early in the year, might never hear attacks.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
A minute, Josh Tracy.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
The beauty of this being my award. I give it
to who I like. Josh Tracy. I loved on yesterday
at Marvel Stadium. I don't know if many had him
as the best player on the ground, but I loved
what he did. We played with presents, took eight big marks,
setting touches three goals. He tackled with a vicious and
ferocious intent that you want to see from your big boys.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Jared So, I think he's an outstanding player.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
He had some good running mates with him in that
forward half and now they were a great story out
of the first So the last round of the home
and away series and will celebrate them. Not many thought
they could get up and off the tarmac after last week,
and they did so.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Josh Tracy led the way. Darcy Wilmont, I don't know
if he's going to make your Shame Team Charity will soon.
This kid is a jet. He is an out now
jet since day doing.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
I think he debuted the final against Melbourne at the
mcg and I don't think he's missed since then. He
is an incredibly talented player. He just does stuff. He
just goes and does stuff like that. Look at this
run and carry and he belts at the inside their
forward fifty runs it out. He had six score involvements
from l back, clank, smothering. We he just we're interviewing

(05:24):
Chris Fagan last week over in Perth. He walked past
and stuck his finger and the Chris is ear will
he went, willied him as a second or third year
player and Figs just laughed.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
That's nassy.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
And then three, you can't go past Toby Green when
your game's on the line, your team's in danger of
missing a home final. To do what he did at
the end, this is everything that's great about footy. And
in the meantime I saw it before that he kicked
four goals, yes, and that seven eight touches. But I
heard him on the radio with the boys on se
End this morning and he.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Said, you know, he's talking about the Mark Lee Mark, which.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
I'm sure we're going to see before these highlights are out,
he takes a big hangar.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
It probably made a one make a mistake.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
He had a shot, so maybe he knew what he
was doing because it allowed him then.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
To perform the heroic deed.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
That there's the mark here. Now could he have burnt
some time and kicked the backwards, I don't know, but.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
That there is the next play.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Essentially he's run from the pocket, ran with the flight
mark the ball, home final of the Giants all over.
He said to the boys this morning. You know what,
if it was in the middle of Mayo, might I
might have gone. But when it's a final on the line,
in a home.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Final, you got to. When it's to a turn the game,
you go.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
And this is what it means. We have four joint leaders.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Forecast driving in going from a nice ninety three thousand
dollars sponsorship gear in three.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Hundred and seventy two. But the powers of be tell
me we're pushing on.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Isaac Key will Well, he might bow out, but he
will be in the clubhouse on nine Rowl's got a chance.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Hogan still side bottom, still alight, growing, They're all still
a light.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
All still happened. It is unbelievable. All right, those are
the g vps. Let's get to the agenda at the
top of it. What a wild round And that was
from the teams who were heading on holiday taking a
free swing at those who are ready themselves. Three finals
to the two consequential matches which took us all the way.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
One last time, I shoots and giggles, let's do it.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
I didn't even had any chance. This could be the
finish to be or finites.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
The turf is long, Ali resigner and King couldn't get
near at the crumb. He's massive back Andrew Joe.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
Sunny the other and if you have it, the upine
pas away second kick a league against a crazy stuff
when well, remember this one for eternity, the one thin
one for Travis.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
What word coach, who's the proudest coach the world has
ever seen?

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Tonight?

Speaker 1 (08:06):
I miss you.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
You're playing for a finals campaign.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
If you need me to sit there and give you
a motivational speech to want to play your first finals
campaign our organization's history, then you're playing the wrong game.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
The players have got to pick themselves up.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
They're going to leave from the front.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
They're going to take charge I'm going to hand it
over to them and we're going.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
To see what this group's made of.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
Plain Wood has done nothing less than celebrates its premisship mission.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
We've got a pulse now for a life.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
If you've finished off four, you win one, you're in
a prelim.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
We win, tell you're in a grand final. Let's how
close we are right now.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
In a heavyweight class.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
For Brisbane celebrate because they know they're top four. They'll
finish third and the Hawks second sign to the bottom
reaches of the eighth.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
To be honest with you, I think if I was
to write this home and away season, it's probably been
our best Either disappointed, I'm pretty excited and I'm sure
every Hawks fan right now is thinking, oh, that would
have been a good night to get. But against play.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Four finals, this sea of three now I felt likes
that sort of performance coming all week from the attitude
of the players.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
This is very special for the Dockers.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
This is the best ie. Not the Doggers. Charge and
charge and charge again.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
This is ridiculous. This is ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
Finally, the Doggers are the comings back to the finals.
Question a week about press or amount of history about hate?

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Put it matters has not products that best footy has
been against the best side, so we should be full
of belief and understand that we can beat anyone. And
the pain for the Bulldogs for we felt well after
the echoes of the final sien faith.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Everyone's you know, it's flat because a shot cutters.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
There's no idea about that.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
It's a mighty, mighty performance for the Fremantle dockers.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
How good is that? Jared?

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Well done everyone upstairs. That is just an extraordinary package.
And this is the end of a home and away
series that every single game has been covered, right I'm
just giving Fox Footy a pump up here.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
This is your home of footy right here.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Every single game has been covered from around the country
at the highest level and now we're about to launch
in the finals for the first time.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
So standby. You're going to enjoy the next month or so,
is your beloved snake.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yes, So the emotions were raw and this is why
Fremantle took the leap and the Dogs sit and await
their fate. It's the cruelest purgatory that the game has
really ever seen. It's a home finals for the Giants
and Freemantle and just the order of seventh eighth, the
ninth to be determined. It was a landmark day for Fremantle, was.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
One hundred percent. It was.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
They did an outstanding job at Marvel Stadium where not
many people thought they could.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
I understand that they had their backs to the wall.
They thought that the world had turned on them.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
They are inspired by the fact that no one gave
them a chance. And I thought the coach led the way.
His press conference was outstanding. I thought he stood up
and he spoke beautifully in the post game. And if
that's a sign of things to come, then they got it.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
There a chance.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
And the thing is they've embered sixteen points down a
court of time. Let's not forget this. And they absorbed
an enormous amount of territory to the Western Bulldogs. And
the Western Bodogs fell into the trap that Freemantle did
the week previously.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
They just banged it in. They thought, we've got the
tall tim but we'll just bang it in. They banged
it in and kept going in and.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
The Dockers stood up and from that point on they
got moving and it was as good a Freeman of
Docker performances I've seen for a long time as disappointed
as they were the week before. They suggested it wasn't
that bad. That's okay, you've got to sell the positive.
But to come out and play like they did, they
got to work in the middle.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
The centerbound stuff was great.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
So they won centa Bounce against the best cent a
Bounce experienced.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Team in the comp by five.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
That was really important because that means that the defense
of the Western Woodogs was under pressure right from the
word go.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
And he had pierspa On Darcy.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Darcy doesn't score, doesn't score at all, and Norton's kept
him check by check by cox. So all those things
conspired to give them a good look at the front half.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
So I like the Justin long Muir persona, and I
like that he doesn't like the narratives that have been
built up around Fremantle, so he spent a little bit
of time cracking those down. But this is the theater
that the club, not just his team, but the club
has failed at repeatedly. And that was part of the
burden that you carry until you conquer it. And they
conquered it. And even though they have won a final

(12:43):
under long Muir, this was the peak moment and it
does set them up for what comes next. What was
imprinted on all of us, I think was what you
showed us last week around their forward setup and how
they go about it, and they found splendid isolation.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, I love this, you know how much I love
you know seeing what happens for to the ball. So
just remind you last week to the frustration of having
these targets to shoot at and not taking advantage.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
And this was what we showed you last week.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
This was a hot Josh Tracy that had just to
kick two goals against Brisbane, and we thought, right, I
let him loose, let him loose, and yet they didn't
work together at all. They didn't work for one another,
and they made him easy to defend. So the ball
comes in, they go all start jumping on each other's
head and they lose any initiative that they had. Fast
forward to yesterday. Look at Amos just peel off here.
He says, no, No, let's isolate Tracy on Lob and

(13:34):
Rory Love had a shock at Rory Love doesn't want
to defend like this, And this is a nice separation. Again,
it doesn't matter who it is, but the space for
Lob trying to defend back shoulder here as opposed to
him seeing the ball and intercept marking, which he's done
so well.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
And then this brings a tear to my eye. It's stupid,
but this is not getting in each other's way. And
Tracy again gets the one out.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
And at the end of the day you saw Voss
hitting up and Amos hitting up and at three goals,
three Amos, three goals, Tracy bang away.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
They go big win.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
It was unmissible, it's unmissed.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
So that's hard to you know, There's there's some big
forards that are going to run around in September, but
they've got three really good ones.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
They're going to be hard to defend.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Caleb'sarrong will be there. There was that curious moment of
he argued with the umpire at the time he got
to the ball first and it ends up being high
contacts on Croft. The free kicks paid and he went
to ask his coach in the aftermath, door, I haven't
anything to worry about. It hadn't even occurred to justin
long view that it was something. It's not as it's
all been cleared by the MRA.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
That's how far we've come as a code so that's
a good thing in a way, but there's no issue there.
It's first at the footy, So Carleb's wrong got hands
to the ball ahead of Craft, who was super impressive
from a Western Bulldogs born of him.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
For the Western Bulldogs. So there was a truth contained
in this, wasn't there? It was the truth that we
wanted to overlook all those who are holding the candle
for the Bulldogs and wanted to overlook the whole way through.
They hadn't stacked up against the top nine teams. The
only one they'd beaten throughout the course of the season
with the Giants, who funnily enough, if Gold Coast took gas,
they'd be playing the Giants of elimination Final. They probably win.

(15:04):
Just set that to the site. The truth of just
not being good enough is there are parts of their
game that seduces you, and there are critical flaws in
the games that they just don't have covered. Are you
glass full or empty on them? Is this a wasted
campaign or is this the precursor of what's to come?

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Well, I can't be any other than glass half full,
which might surprise many. But they've got two thirds of
the puzzle all sorted out. Their midfield is elite, they're
Ford and the number one is going to them the
comp we know, so this is as obvious and playing
for me as any of the teams in the off season.
He's go to work and do what Melbourne did when

(15:43):
they got to a position where they were going to
contend and may and leave came from other clubs and
this has happened throughout. Collingwo went and got Billy Frampton,
not a big name, played a pivotal ry when they
won a premiership.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Supporter Jeremy Howe and.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
The others Hawthorn went out and got Brats and battle
you've got Adelaide went out and got mar Quene. So
that is what lies ahead because whilst they didn't win
and they can't run away from that, they can't hide
against those top nine sides. The average losing margin was
fourteen points.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Stared.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
I think they can pull back fourteen points against the
best teams in the competition if they get this part
of the game because the rest of the game is
in really good order. Don't fall into the trap are
thinking this is the best list in the competition.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
That is a nonsense. They've got two thirds of the
best list, but their back half is not anywhere near it.
So that's the job.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Go to work, use what you've got at your disposal,
See who's dispensable, see who you can try and jag
it like not the Callum Milkie wants to go anywhere.
But that's the sort of bloke that you go after
to say, hey, let's put this deal in front of
you because everything else is in good order.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
I think they're hugely attractive proposition to go to as
a key defender. So I don't know whether it ends
up being Jack Sulavanna or whether that's the player that
they need.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
They him and more.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yes, yes so because the generational forwards that darciars Croft
shows great signs Norton. They are on the clock in
the Bontempelli years. This is the bit that disturbs me
a little bit. So since their previous ground final appearance,
they've missed the finals twice. They've gone out in the
elimination finals twice. I think that's the bitter edge to yesterday.

(17:11):
This was the year. I know their age profile doesn't
have them ending anytime soon, but it was time to
challenge for the top four. They've ended up missing the
EPES in all likelihood, so that part of it's a fail.
But you do watch aspects of the game, go why
can't they get this to work? And personnel's part of it.
I suspect there's a systematic adjustment that has to be

(17:31):
made in the all team defense as well.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Yeah so personneal As I said, it's fourteen point average
losing margin against these best sides.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
So it is personnel.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
But it also is for Luke to go to work
now and have a look at his own system and
the only way he wants to play with his defensive
coaches and say where do I need to make some change?
I don't so much worry about the worry. So he's
got a premiership marker, Spontan Peali, and he knows where
he's at. He's a big boy. They're still in very
much in contention.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Unt excuse me.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
I don't bag for the Western Bulldogs and I heard
some of the stuff today. You know that Western Bulldog
supporters a heartbreak and I get it, But hang in,
hang in. Maybe Croft is one of the answers going back.
Maybe Kroft goes back and becomes Jeremy Howe mark too.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
That's sort of.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
That's what's got to be explored in the summer months
for the Western Bulldogs and go and explore.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Hard the Brisbane Lions. So they're burn Brough, they're carrying
sixty seven kilos and the handicap I didn't get them.
They still qualified for the double chance who put that
chart up before nine and four against the teams than
matter so more games than anybody else was subjected to,
more wins than anyone else registered.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
They are.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
They are the defending champs for a reason. Their best
remains the best.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah, I was walking around today and I was trying
to think, if you were still playing, who would you
want to play with?

Speaker 3 (18:48):
I reckon, You'd love playing in this site.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
They're just so honest And I know they've had their
up and down moments this year on the back of
a premiership, but with everything that's worked against them, with
the draw that they've had to contend with, that still
finished where they're finished and effectively they played against Hawthorne
who are playing for their life and they replaced down
to her and.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Hipwood with Day and Gallup. So just have a think
about that for a minute.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Your two tools, you contenders, You Joe down to her
your big name player, and then Hipwood who you know,
where Eric is, He's a role player. They're not there,
So Dane Gallup come in, and then Marshall comes in
a whole host of others. I think what Chris Fagan's
done is extord and the stories of you. We'll get
to Geelong in a moment, and we'll get to Matthew Nicks.

(19:31):
But this is I think one of the great performances.
And I loved it when Chris said it he's press
conference that this is our best home and away season
ever and I would have to agree, given the challenges
that have confronted them. No locking near there on the
weekend as well. I'd love to play footy with these bokes.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
They've got a critical massive young players. I remember early
last year when things look to have turned Sarah on
the open question was where's their young talent coming from?
Their young talent is frighteningly before us. So they've got
that blend of they've got their veterans, they've got their champions,
but they've got a call of young players who are
going to keep their men and around contention for years
to come.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Five in the under the AFL under AFL pick an
under twenty two team, which is in all Australian under
twenty two.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
They got five in there.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
The reigning premiers have got five and they've got more
kids to come in this draft via the academy. So oh,
I bring this game on. They've been superb. They've been
absolutely magnificent and we've talked about the previous two premiers
haven't been able to get there at all. Well they've
got there, and they've got there with a double chance Geelong.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
So what is it?

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Eleven out of fifteen top four qualifications under Chris Scott
and seven of those are top two, which is where
they've gone through again. So the capacity to sustain excellence
is like we've never seen before.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
Now, you know, you've got to stop and think about
that too.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
If you barrack for a side that can't get there,
or you barrack for a side that fleetingly sticks its
head into September and then disappears because it's a bit hard,
then you go and look at these numbers. So everything
we say about the Brisbane lines, Chris Scott's been doing
it for longer, and Chris Gott and his team have
been doing it for longer so I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
What you know?

Speaker 2 (21:09):
The superlatives are all sit really comfortably on them and
they've done it in a pretty disarming way because they
haven't played anyone really and it's not being disrespectful for
the past six or seven weeks. They just front up,
their system, stands up and they go methodically about dismantling
whoever they're playing. So they would be looking forward to
playing against Brisbane as much as any and mcg so Brisbane.

(21:32):
I remember talking to Fakes down at gm HbA. They
were one of the few that did knock them off
in recent times and he went in with that no
negativity about I'm saying, how are you going to handle
these bikes?

Speaker 3 (21:42):
And he's going, yeah, how are they going to handle us?

Speaker 2 (21:45):
And as it turned out, they mugged them, They jumped
them in the first quarter and they gave them a
nice old belting.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
So the Cats are there again, no surprise, and I
can't wait to go and watch it.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
That's why it's a brilliant dynamic because this geelongside is
definitely better than last year's geelongside that had a decent
lead in the preliminary final and poked their nose in
front place, but Brisbane had the wood on them. Now
for a long time, Geelong lorded over Brisbane. Those tables
are totally flipped and in fact, the Fagan method is
getting was getting further away from Jeelyng when last we

(22:17):
saw them. So you've got every aspect to it. You've
got what will happen on the field, You've got the
two coaches matching wits and experience and all that they've seen.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
So nig over the journey, I hope. So Shannon Neil
coming back for.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
The cab Yeah, yeah, So it's brilliant.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
And then we're going to bake It's Scotty's team to
the top of the table. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
So this is the Bills that Adelaide has been on.
Matthew Knicks coach them when they are at the bottom,
he's leading them now that they are at the top.
It's a single season rise from fifteenth to first and
now back to the finals for the first time since
twenty seventeen. The coach of the minor Premier Matthewunicks gown

(23:04):
and that you come
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