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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Thursday night pressure Cooker, longtime colleagues Ken Hinckley and
Michael Voss pitched in a high stakes clash of Adelaideovaal.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Inside the cauldron, Simo and Horse walked the most difficult
of weeks in the shoes of the Carlton coach.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
And repairing on the run, Simon Goodwin. That joins us
off the buy as the demon search for that elusive connection.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
We talked about. Is this step into it, embrace all
of it in the room and print it.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
It's unedifying for a senior coach to do that.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
They're on the side of Courtia with the brain cape
the man on.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
They played the best footy I've ever seen at the
start of the season and President left the couple. Alder said,
of course they do. Is the stuff that legends are
made of.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
What is holding the ball?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I don't think I could answer it clearly right now
that I can do something wrong.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
You know, and I need to get and the board.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Sextually the fans lover and with no fans no through
sixty year old.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
The angles of round sixteen coming to focus scats. Did
we manage to get anyone into trouble today?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Not as yet, Jared, but it's tonight. It's only young only.
I've got a few to roll through here, so and
they've got plenty of money to the blokes in the company,
so we want to get a bit.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Out of them, all right. So Simo and Horse here
walking the week in Michael Voss's shoes and just the
intense scrutiny. Simon Goridwin's off the buy and the teams
are in there. Everyone's been dropped. There's four gone from
each team, Port Adelaide and Carlton as they look to
change their mix and alter their fortunes. And then immediately
after ours first Crack preview, Ben Dixon with Lee Montagna
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and David King. It's been quite elaborate next door, so
very busy.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
What goes to it is a mass watch. I saw
Whinny strolling on the Yeah coronals as well, So must
watch first Crack okay, and then tonight first ball at midnight.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Coverage starts at quarter to twelve on ESPN from Barbados.
Not the first ball you'll be up at for that
up early. My dream is to wake up and Sam
Constance is sixty five not out, and just guide him
through to his maiden.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Test, not the dream I have jured berg for you.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Fair enough. Wednesday D Day for Aussie brought well.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
This one for me is the Kangaroos. Now, this is
how you build a football club on the back of responses, right,
So you build trust and you build a bond that
all defines the great teams. Now they were embarrassed and
good Friday by Carlton. The response was emphatic and it
was great and it was the build and the makings
of a footy club. Around twenty four last year, down
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at Lonceston they played the Hawthorn Footy Club and lost
by one hundred and twenty four points. Year it was embarrassing.
It was a horrible way to finish the season and
they had delivered that for six months. They go back
to Lonceston and play hawth On again this weekend and
they know it's the coach's former team, they know that
there's been some history there. You want to build a
bond with your coach that's unbreakable, then go out and
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perform and be Hawthor at lon sst and turn the
one hundred and twenty four point deficit around as you
did last week on the back of a horrid good Friday,
so we're all watching Kangaroos get to it.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I like it. That's live and exclusive here on Fox
Footy at four o'clock on Superty Saturday. I'll go the
Dogs Friday. Not on two fronts. They've got their place
in the eighth so it's theirs to defend and to
rise up. And they're the first team in contention that's
going to face the Sydney side that it is suddenly
restocked and you just look at him a little bit
differently at the moment, and it's Marcus Bontonpelli's two hundred
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and fiftieth game. So we reveled last week in Patrick Dangerfield,
who is in his eighteenth season. Once in his twelfth season,
he's only twenty nine. He is still the ruling force
in the game. For everyone who's got statements around it,
this is the best player in the game. His CV
sixth best and fairs six all Australians, twice, runner up
in the Brownlow, twice, the MVP, once the Coach's Association Award.
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He is a Premiership player, but he's still only in
the middle stages of his career as he reaches two
hundred and fifty so we glory in what he's done
and then what might come next. And for Bulldogs fans,
there's a line of merchandise that's been produced from the
clean shaven young lad who started to the dodgy beard
that he's sported along the way.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Couple different look, couple different hairstyff I'm going to get
one of those Bond.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Shirts, Scars hoodies, T shirts all there to revelent.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
It's a big test for them too, because they are
very much aside. They've played twice with Bonton, Pelli and
Darcy in the side from start to finish and the
average margin seventy three points.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yes, all right, they marched into city down the Swans
were a better side and thrash them there. So we'll
see you on Friday nights. Let's get into it at
the top of the agenda. Where does the round commence? Well,
that's in Adelaide tomorrow night. It is a pressure cooker environment.
Carlton off the short sharp break with a lot of
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short sharp material coming their way as they face up
to Port Adelaide.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
What are you doing if your Michael boss panicking?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
What's happened to my proud club?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Where's the fight.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
They're not being Carlton.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
The club is overly emotional, bordering on destructive.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
There needs to be change.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
We're all about the players and coaches, but I think
this is a change that needs to happen, and I
think it needs to happen ASoP.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
If they don't think that vosses them in as they've
done before, they'll rip the bandbot off. You can lean
in or you can lean out.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
My belief right now is that is starting to happen.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
He needs a miracle right now.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
It's we didn't really have enough time to delve into
the game it's entirety, and that's sort of one of
those weeks. We've got to move forward pretty quick. So
we felt like we touched on the most important things
and now we've got to be able to fix your
eyes in on Portland.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Some sympathy for what it was and the He's under
a human film.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Yeah, Michael knows what the industry is like, and we
both know and everyone who's in this game. No, you
have your time where you've just got to stand up
and you've got to do your job. It's hard not
to get distracted, but you can't let that happen.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Have you spoken to Graham Bryan or the Water that
in all position at the moment, they're outstanding leaders and
they're only interested in alignment and they're only interested in
solving it together, and that's support. I feel.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Not to similar to ourselves, as there's so many clubs
who are in the bracket that we're both in and
we haven't had the most consistencies and that.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
We would expect speculation about what's happening or what is happening.
Probably focused on the most important things to get some
correction in a couple of important areas and also reinforced
some of the other things we've been doing a lot
of work on to help us obviously get the result
tomorrow night.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
We're no different to Carlton, and I'm sure they're trying
to getting on a run what we're trying to do.
So it's a damned tough competition. You don't get to
do it perfectly all the time.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
A night of fierce pressure and impending consequence. It's the
six and eight bracket, it's tenth versus twelfth. Realistically, gaz
one of these teams would have to go eight and
one with the percentages that they've got to cross over,
So that's not really the story, although if we did
have the wild card, the race for tenth would be
pretty lively and these two would be writing a's what
have they done? At selection? There are moves to be
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made and four have been dropped. On either side of it.
Mead Finless and Burton and Maras lose their place for
Porter Lear's back from injury, Evans Jackson's going to play
his fourth game and Travis Bok who's bus far been
restricted to seven. And on the Carlton side of things,
they have omitted Dirden pittnet Bins and Carroll Boyd who's
been sparingly used which has been a little bit curious.
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Lewis Young and then there are two debutantes, Billy Wilson
and Flynn Young. Billy's picked thirty four from a couple
of years ago and Flynn was from the mid season drafts,
a lad from the Geelong foot Or League, initially through
weerribe who's a lively forward.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Fix it with your Finn. They keep the couple and
had nine in touches last week, sixth and seventh debutante
for Carlton. So I don't mind that. I don't mind
the young kids. It gives everyone a bit of a lift,
but it won't be the answer that therein won't be
the fix to the problem. The fix of the problem
will lie with their leaders, as it always does. And
that's why you're a leader of a footy club. That's
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why you're put into that exalted position, and the fixation
on the victory can't be the priority, Jarrett. It's not
about whether you win or lose, as crazy as that sounds.
It's about the effort and then the system that they
try and put in place. So from the playing group,
they control effort within so the coach can say, try harder,
but that's up to you. You can't get out and
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drag you by the ear. So the first thing I'll
be doing is watching effort from a Carlton point of view.
And then the next thing is how are they going
to play and how they're going to try to play.
They're going to continue to put their eggs in the
contest and clearance basket and the entight and in close
back that in which hasn't worked that well for them,
or are they going to take the game on a
bit and go down swinging so and then you've got
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this opposition here who are just hanging on by the
skin of their teeth as well. So no, I think
it's morbidly interesting tomorrow and on yes.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Yeah it is so. I Voss faced all those questions
today as you must in need circumstances, but on a
five day turnaround where he can see that there really
hadn't even been time to review the game, and it's
entirely they just sort of picked the moments of most
consequence to have a look at. Is there's not any
time to indulge any of that this week to contemplate it.
So he quite rightly has shut it down in the
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post match and shut it down again today, and that
does it magnifies what the response looks like. Is this
a team that is beaten down and broken or as
a team that's going to rise up and make amends
for its performance last week?
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, and that can happen as we saw within the
four quarters, yes, or it can happen week to week.
And I would be They've been in this position before,
We've talked about them in this partless position before, and
they found a way to get themselves back competitive. Now.
I'm not holding out enormous hope for the fact that
Carlton will win tomorrow night. But I reckon there'll be
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a response from effort. And if there's not, with all
the speculation through the week, and we know we're not
in the business second coaches, but there are plenty out
there that want to. If there's not a response from
an effort point of view, well then the question about
the coach and the players becomes a bit more pointy.
And yeah, he got a response a three quarter time.
Now is that a response because a little too late
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it was finally was a wake up that he was
hard on them and that resonated. We'll find out. But
if you don't get a response in effort, which will
be evident for everyone to see, well then those that
are making those decisions will look back and go, Okay,
this is where it's at.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Effort is sort of the bare minimum, isn't it, And
then there's method. I hope they're able to play in
the manner that they did that last quarter, because I
presume that's what they're trying to build into their game.
And it's been evident every now and then, but only
every now and then.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah, and we don't we that a lot in footy
you know, when it's out of reach and it's the
unwinnable situation, then you throw caution to the wind and
play with some dare and flare. So exactly, let's see
that from the first bound. So in my mind takes
me back to some pretty impressive and impactful wins from
Carlton over there in Adelaide at various stages over last year.
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I can't recall. I think there's a Port Adelaide game
the Crips at three quarter time lifted them across the line.
So yeah, so when we talk about effort and then
method and style, so don't be in no doubt that
we're looking at Wienering Cryps, Kerno McGovern acres. Well, look
that's exactly where we're looking. So the other guys who
have played and the other experience bas Jackson, Vann and
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all those guys, but all the kids that are coming in,
they're going to have an experience. I'll never forget. We'll
make it so from a senior point of view, and.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Port Adelaide have fluctuated all year, haven't they. They put
it together a couple and then they were totally outplayed
by Sydney and absolutely flattered by their own estimation by
the way the scoreboard looked. So what they're still ball
in this season, what their sense of purpose is, has
been highly questionable all the way through, and if they
were to drop this game at home, they limp further
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to the out of mathematical contention.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, they've been a hard side to get a beat
on because of the situation with their coach, and we
sort of suspected it early on that it was going
to be hard if it got beyond the possibility of
playing final. So I don't really know what to expect
from them. So who hold your breath and see we
gain And there's enough there's enough talent in that put
Audelaide's side for them to make it really difficult for Carlton,
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I would think. But we're not sure which one's going
to turn up.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
So no Wines for the time man, and Lacocius is
making his return in the sanfl so they might get
him back in the next couple of weeks. That's a
setup for Thursday night foot here, which we'll see right
here on Fox. Simon Goodwin. He's got his team heading
for the Gold Coast, so we pick up our fortnightly
conversations on the other side of the buy. How is
the breather and what has been attempted on the fix space?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Couldn't I feel safe?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Could see me on the floor