June 18, 2025 • 24 mins
Catch up on all the footy news from AFL 360, Wednesday 18th June with Gerard Whateley and Garry Lyon.
Gerard Whateley and Garry Lyon return for another edition of AFL 360, the boys are joined by Geelong Cats' Patrick Dangerfield ahead of his 350 game milestone this weekend.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A modern day great reaches the landmark milestone Patrick Dangerfield
to become the twenty fifth player to three hundred and
fifty games, and he joins us live.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
The Dockers are ready themselves for a Thursday night to
advance their claims against the beleagued Bombers.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
And how long is too long? And the burgeoning contract markets.
Simo and Horse ponder if the Max deal needs a limits.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
We talked about his step into it in brace Aulibert.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
In the room and rent it.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
It's unedifying for a senior coach to do that.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
They're on the side of Courtia with the brain tape.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
The man on they played the best footy I've ever
seen at the start of the season. And in the
president left the couple older said he.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Of course they do.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Is the stuff that legends are made of.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
What is holding the ball?
Speaker 5 (00:45):
I don't think I could answer it clearly right now
that I can do.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Something wrong, you know, And I need to get and
the board sexual the.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Fans lover and with no fans no through sixty year old.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Around fifteen is almost upon us. But Gazz Last night,
Jesse Hogan and Patrick Cripps how keen Dregon They are
to play together for Western Australia.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
They're as keen as you would be to mee at
Royal Ashcott right now, where your beautiful wife is Claire
and your daughter beck who's going to have a twenty
first birthday tomorrow. They are in the rule box yesterday
and you don't want to be here, you want to
be there, but you are here.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
So it's a good thing. Those Foma. I can see
it in your Jared.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I know you love your footy, but the Royal listen, no,
the boys here they're a little eyes lit up when
we started talking state footy back and the under sixteen
days they at the hark back to those West Australian.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Days champions in twenty ten. So we've got photos from
their under fifteen year here, Gaz. So this is the
collective champions. You're just going to walk us around here
and show us who's who.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, let's go to bottom right where a pre pubescent
Patrick Cripps is nearly the smallest player in the team.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Jared, can you believe that? Sitting down the front row
front row, and that's.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Big dog Jesse oga back and you've got to hear
under his arm pits and he's ready to roll, and
he's got a cut of good teammates because they go.
They talked about was how Jack Martin. Martin got him
across the line. And there's Dom who kicked one of
the most famous goals in history. And then it takes
all types and we all develop at different ages. Jerry,
there's a half a sleeve there for a young man
(02:20):
the under fifteens, which I do reckon. You'd rock, but
that's it takes all types.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I love it what he's Someone will tell us the
name of that young man. Hopefully he's still playing foot.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
And I can't imagine that that's stopped there.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
I wouldn't imagine. So no one's Dusty got his eye in.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Let's have a look at what we've got coming up
for Tonight's John My Adam Simpson, Patrick Dangerfield is about
to join us in Brendan Favola with a heart warming
story and then First Crack preview will set you up
what to look for. In round fifteen. Ben Dixon is
with David King and Lee Montagna. We'll do our d
days shortly, but we're heading for more.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
We only postponed detay for very very special men.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Alright, our agenda starts with what will be the centerpiece
story of Friday Night Footy, Patrick Dangerfield Reag's game three
hundred and fifty. He'll become the twenty fifth player in
league history to do so, and it furthers a story
legacy in the game.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
One of the most remarkable things about Patrick he's playing
is three hundred and fiftieth. It snuck up on me
a little bit. It doesn't feel like it's even close
to the end.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
The superlatives that we've used on Patrick over the years
have been just well deserved.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
And then you had to go back to.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Your book to see if there's anything you hadn't said
about him, because he did it all again.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
His ability to keep our players kind of mind on
what's important has been amazing. And I go back to
this the measure of the man. He was, if not
the best player in the competition, pretty close.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
When he came to our club.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Had every right to Puppy's chest out and say on
the man.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
By dageer Field accelerated through, but he slotted him by.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
I'm Josh Sellwood said, Joel's the captain on here to
support him. So he did his thing on field, but
off field he was so happy he did number two.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
And he had every right to say, I reckon, I'm
number one.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
But that's the thing I admire the most.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Friday Night forty Shapes is one of the biggest games
of the season. The Cats and the Lions, who have
a hoodoo to overcome down the Highway and individually the
centerpiec Is Patrick, Dangerfields, Pat Congratulations preemptively and welcome back
to three point sixty.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Thanks Jered, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Coach says, not even close to the end.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
How does that feel for you? Well, it feels pretty good,
I reckon. Well, I'm definitely closer to the end, but
not not enjoying pretty any less. That's certainly true as
I get older.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
So this is a rare mile stone in the history
of the game, only the twenty fifth player to do so.
Have you got a sense of what it does mean
to you?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
It's been lovely to have a few phone calls throughout
the week and plenty of text messages from old teammates
and old players that used to play against. And that's
sort of been a nice little reflective piece, I suppose,
because you get a few different random texts and then
it takes you back to the early days of Adelaide
or you know, playing against some champions of the game
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and little moments like that. So it's been nice to reflect.
I don't often do it. I don't think players do
it often, and it's probably only milestones that they do
sort of take a step back. But it's been nice
to sort of live in the moment a bit this week.
And yeah, recollect.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Well, deserve Patrick, congratulations, the praise and edulations. Only going
to reach your peak when you run out there on
Friday nights, sit.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Back and enjoy all that.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I was taken by what Chris said to us on
Monday night sat here, and you know, he was just said, look,
it's not even close. And then you've had some soft
tissues that have enabled you to have breaks through the year. Now,
I know you don't plan for that, but the bottom
line is that the transformation is on the midfield day
the days of the midfield, and we're not behind you forever.
You make cameos, but you now sort of set yourself
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for the final phase. I would imagine as a forward,
how was that presented to you, How have you embraced it?
Speaker 4 (06:26):
And are you comfortable in the role.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Very comfortable in it gas. I think it evolved throughout
the preseason as we feel like as a team there's
some you know, the players are more than capable of
taking their own games in there to the next level,
and the game is very much a transition game that
as you get older, and it was never truly my
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one would gazz as you would know. For me, it
was about power on the game. The position that enables
you to do that most effectively is forward, where you
can you know, you can pick your moments and then
when it's time to exlerate and hit the contest, you
can do it. But it's just not the same partn
trust that is required in the modern midfield role, which
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is you know, in so the heyday people while ago
now it was around that sort of twelve and a
half to fourteen k mark, but around the twelve twelve
and a bit, and that's that's evolved and does evolve
for every player. I remember modeling a bit of my
game off Joe because Scott Campeley, who was one of
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my midfield coaches, my midfield coach at Adelaide and a
really big impact on my career. Joe would go around
the center square and it would just be contest to
contest and the next contest, so and he would do
around eight and a half to nine k's again and
really impact, which is extraordinary think that you could run
(08:03):
only that far but it's still really impacted and get
a lot of the footing. So it's changed over time.
But as a thirty five year old understanding where my
body's at now, the forward role, yeah, it suits me,
and it's not easier to keep weight off as you
get older. But what it doesn't that what you do
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is to wrestle with a few of the big monster defenders.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, and so we have a look at these numbers.
I'm not sure whether you saw them when they come up.
So you've got to reconcile the fact that you've got
to get less footy, having spent most of your career
accumulating plenty, but have more impact with the opportunities that come.
And you've made an unbelievable fist of that.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
So there would be times.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I'd imagine you'll come off the field feeling like you
haven't not play, but you haven't contested in the manner
that you have.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Is that hard to you hit it?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Yeah? It is. It's funny. I was saying to Gains
Junior this morning and we were talking around that because
that was obviously how he ended his career. And you
just wrap your head around the impact and how you're
just going to spend less time around the ball making
the moment's count. But it doesn't make it any easier
when you can feel like you're in good touch and
playing a game of footy, but you haven't touched the
(09:13):
ball for fifteen minutes and you might you know, you
might only touch it for two or three times in
a quarter. So mentally that's a different challenge in itself.
And it's been really good to understand the forward craft
and what our forwards go through in terms of being
a byproduct of the play out the field and the
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resolve that you need to have in order to keep
yourself in the contest mentally as much as physically.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
The most striking aspects of the season. I think Pat
with who has been how dynamic you are, how powerful
you are, And I guess we plotted this through some
of the soft tissue injuries, whether there was a point
you were going to have to trade away some of that,
but it looks like you haven't had to so you've
modified the game from mid to forward, but you haven't
had to trade away your power.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Is that right? Yeah? I think that probably the big
thing that affects it mostly in terms of soft tissue
for me, is just a fatigue, and you're just under
less fatigue playing forward. There's more accelerations. So there's parts
of my game physically that have that. There are a
significant uplift on the last few years compared to midfield
(10:23):
time because you've got the accelerations and the decelerations that
have gone right up. You're spending less time in that
sort of twenty odd jogging from contest to contest, but
when you go, it's really time to go. And I
think that's you know, you've got to keep that part
of your game as you get older, and as soon
as you lose your power and your speed, you know,
(10:44):
it's pretty hard to compete. So I don't feel like
I've lost that part of my game. There's other parts
that have deteriorated, but I don't feel like the speed
and power piece. You know, I feel as powerful and
I did five ten years ago, to be honest, just
i'd have that ability to back it up over long stretches.
And for high kilometers. But I still feel like if
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you know the ball's there to be gotten and I
can attack it in the air on the ground, I
can do that as well as I'd better have.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yes, So you look like a wrecking ball at various
stages at the moment.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
What are you working?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
What's your forward craft naturally like? And what are you
working on?
Speaker 3 (11:23):
My forward crafts and James Riley has been wonderful for this.
My forward craft wasn't always great, still isn't, to be honest,
It's a work in progress, and I've been really fortunate
to be And that's mum and Dad's mom and dad
to think gifted with speed and power, But what that
sometimes means is you rely on that speed and power
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and less on your craft and reading of the play.
So as you get older and there's little dips here
and there, that the craft becomes more important. And I've
had more time to be able to put into that
because I've been playing in just that position rather than
changing from mid to forward or vice versa. So this
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is mean, this is meant I can sort of hone
in on that craft a bit more rather than just
relying on genetic traits of speed and power. That helps, obviously,
but what helps that even more is read and play early,
good body positioning where you don't always have to turn
on the gas. You know, ninety five out one hundred
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every time.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Tell us about your ability, and this is one of
the things that I admired about you over this great
journey is your ability to compartmentalize if you like. So
you've been you know, you started as a schoolboy. That
would your first two games you were still here in Melbourne,
traveling over and then throughout the journey a new Craig
tild great stories of yesterday about it.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
But you've always.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Presented publicly relaxed. You don't appear to be carrying heavy
burdens and lands, although I'm sure you have. Throughout the
course of your career. You've taken on, you know, high
profile positions such as the captaincy and also the Player's
Association presidency, and you always do it with great grace
and dignity. I reckon irrespective of what's happening in your
footy life. So just talk us through that. There's young
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kids coming into footy who get burdened and heavy, and
I did at various stages, but it doesn't seem it's
the thing I've admired about you. You might be put
on a good front, I don't know, But can you
share with.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Surround yourself good people? I think that's that's you know,
that's a key ingredient to any good performance, whether it's
professional sport or working life. I think when you're surrounded
by good people, that makes it a heck of a
lot better prioritizing the most important things in any particular role.
So when you're playing, it's clearly it's plain, but once
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you can't affect a result or you know, what I've
probably learned is and whether it's pair or other sort
of connections that I've made, is not being too emotionallynnected
to it and understand there's a bigger picture a play,
whether that's the collective players, whether that's the collective competition
and what's best for it. You know, that's been a
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learning process to me. I understand it a heck of
a lot better at thirty five than I did at
twenty five. So and then I think understanding that footy
is and everything, it's it's a huge part of my life.
And you know, when people say family always comes first,
the reality is when you're a professional sportsperson, it's not
true like the big parts of someone gets sick. Of course,
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your family comes first, but the day to day that's
not how it is. Footy comes first. Everything's centered around that,
and to be really good, that's for me, it's just
how it has had to have been, and my wife
and family have been unbelievable in that sense. So you
do sort of have to I think I understand that
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piece and then have that close in a circle of
people that you can trust and talk to that sort
of keep your grounded and also give you great wisdom
when you're dealing with different things. And it's changed over
my time from becoming a really good player within the
competition in my early twenties mid twenties, taking over the PA,
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becoming captain and just having people that you can constantly
talk to them and bounce things off. I'd talk to
Shann Higgins three or four times a week, you know,
most mornings, and just talk about leadership stuff and the
way to approach different scenarios, different players, how you can
get the best out of people and tactful ways, so
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you can't just do it yourself. You've got to have
some people that you talk to and spend time with
and value with.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Players in their mid thirties is sometimes you are drawn
to the question around footing, mortality and gays. Having spoken
to you last weeks with your back, you said you
knew the exact.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Minute that you're the second that you were a time.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Are you enjoying being an aging footballer, Pat or do
you yearn for your mid twenties when you first dominated
the competition.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
I do love being an older player. I must admit,
like there's things that you learn that are invaluable and
the only way to gain that experience is to experience it,
the only way to really understand that, you know what,
No one is actually really following your career all that closely.
Apart from him dad, no one really cares that much.
(16:38):
So don't you know, don't destroy yourself after a poor performance,
or don't internalize and stew over things that you think
everyone's looking at that you know what, they're not. They
don't care. They've got things in their own lives or
in their own careers, or in their own jobs or
whatever it might be. So to be able to pull
back on that and see that now I think it
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helps with performance and focusing on what's important around leadership
and the cultural impact that you can have. But I
love playing against older players that I love catching up
with them after games and having a chuckle around, you know,
trying to keep up with the young guys.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Coaching.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
The coaches you have in your life, I think have
a massive bearing on who you are and what sort
of person you've become. And I think for you and
Chris Scott, it almost looks like a perfect marriage of
footballer and coach. Captain and coach. Now just explore that
a bit in terms of the way he goes. I
think he's a fascinating character.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Chris.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I don't know him clearly as well as any of
you guys, but he seems to have balance, he seems
to have perspective, and it seems to marry really well
with you.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
I reckon, Yeah, it does. I think we have a
very similar outlook on sport and on the important pass
of sport and the balance that's needed. Not that we
always probably each of us live exactly what we you know,
we we preach at times because you can get you know,
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disappointed with losses and stewing it for a bit. But
you're the your the face is an older player, and
he's the you know, he's our he's our leader. So
you do have to fake it at times because you
know it's about the greater good of the building. But
I've yeah, we've had such an incredible ride together, a
wonderful relationship. I think we view the game similar, doesn't
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It doesn't mean we always aground things, but yeah, he's
been so impactful right throughout my career and I'm bloody
thankful to have had him as a coach and we
are as an organization because it's just it's made the
place fun, and I think that's the most important ingredient
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in sport. I coached my son's under ninety and it's
got to be fun. Training's got to be fun. Games
have to be fun, and it really shouldn't change as
you become a professional athlete. As long as it's channeled
in the right way, that's the key to peak performance.
I think that's the key to great buy in, whether
it's a nine year old or a twenty nine year old.
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And Chris has driven that and I suppose tried to
reinforce it as well.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
You'll see alongside him at a press conference tomorrow. I
have this one in your back pocket. So it's May
two thousand and three. It's the last time the Brisbane
lines one at Kadinia Park and in the twenty eight minutes.
The man who makes it safe is.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
One Chris Scott, a nugget. He for such an eloquent speaker,
He's so bad at talking about himself. He's tested. I'm
sure you guys would know that. When he comes on
or you're asking about his coaching, he's happy to talk
more broadly about it, but he's terrible of talking about himself.
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He's a very humble person and he's been so good
for us the games you spoke about Neil Craig, he
was the other really big impact on my career. Taught
wonderful values early on around professionalism and what was needed
at the level. Yeah, he was incredible as well.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
The other feature of Friday Night it's going to be
kick out the Cattery, So the white T shirts all
round there are going to be on every seat, so
a bit like we see in the NBA and in
college football, it should be some sort of site in
the stands.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah, it'll be fantastic. It's a great initiative. We're really
excited for it as players, and you can just see
the visual impact that it has overseas, so we feel
like it could be pretty pretty special for us as
catch people. And yeah, having forty one thousand of those
on Friday night, it's going to be pretty spectacular.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Hopefully it's a great one for your patn as always,
thank you for your time and we'll see you down there.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Thanks Jared, Thanks Gays, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Dangers Field Game three hundred fifty Modern Day.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
I on the opposition.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I think opposition support is good nature then, but grudgingly,
and some probably don't like him, but the thing that
gets him is he just smiles his way through whatever's
going on. That's what I've loved throughout his whole career,
and he just wears it and gets all of.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
It all right.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Let's have a quick look at the teams for tomorrow night.
Fremantle going for five wins in a row and they
should improve their position for eight if they do so.
Minimal change for the Dockers. Ashan O'Driscoll in, Swatkowski's with
the hamstring injury, and Darcy is being managed, so too
is Todd Goldstein, who's carried a mountain of work since
zandzac Day and Dawis has been omitted. Vyscentini, Vigo. Vyscentini
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comes in second year on the rookie list. He's going
to play his first game in Hobbs's back. This means Gaz.
There are six teenagers in that Essendon team. There are
six players with four games or fewer and nine with
twenty three games or fewer. The experience of that is
Caddy with his twenty three games, so remarkably young.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Tam Yeah, it's his extraordinary circumstances. So for Bamba fans,
you continue to get exposed to your list. So that's
the good thing about it. And the three minut of lockers.
They just sleak it up on a few Jared. So
when you're putting together a run of wins like this
and they go in as red hot favorites, there are
bigger challenges to come.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
But they should get this done.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
You think.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
So. The ground is a bit of a curiosity, having
played two games on the weekend. The state of Origin
Rugby League is there tonight I expected and rain tomorrow,
so it might be a cowpaddic by the time they
get there. We'll wait and see. That has been a
demanding then a bit of a strange schedule. In all honesty,
Ossie brought band D Day. Who is round fifteen? D
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Day four in your mind, I've.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Gone back to the Swan's.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I've had him as a D Day a couple of
times throughout the course of this year, Jared. But they
are running out of chances, and the chances may have
already gone, but they welcome back a couple of players
by the name of Gulden and Papley.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
That's what I'm told at this stage.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
It's Wednesday night and we know how significant they are,
so they need to get rolling where the finals are
beyond them this year is probably relevant about tomorrow night.
They just got to get those players back in and
start to remind themselves what sort of footy they can play.
And there's no more Papley's influence as a spirit person
in this team and then Golden for what he also
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brings in a connection piece really important. So put Adelaide
very good one to two on the bounce, so you
know there'll be a great challenge for Swance.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
You got North Melbourne.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
This takes us back to Good Friday where we pegged
it as the most important game of Alista Clarkson's reign
and it went horribly, an eighty two point loss. Since then,
seven games, two wins and a draw, three credible losses,
including this against Fremantle last week. The one blemish was
against Collingwood where they hung tough for a long time.
But we're not marking anyone down on their performances against Collingwood.
So it's back to Carlton. They've lost their past five
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against them. The average losing margin has been eight goals,
and that question is there again, what have you got?
It's the litmus test, step up to it. There'll be
a moment when North Melbourne steps up to Carlton and
says enough is that at the MCG on Saturday after
I think you've got me.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
I think your d day is better than mine, Eyebill.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Carlton steer them down, May Machai, I know Walsh, potentially
no Kerno.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
This is a big moment for.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Them, all right.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
So North Melbourne take their turn. Let's bring in our coaches.
They've got long term contracts on their minds.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
They've got a bit of an.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Into out vision to make us smarter. John Longmye and
Adam Simpson to join us in a few moments time.
A modern day great reaches the landmark milestone Patrick Dangerfield
to become the twenty fifth player to three hundred and
fifty games, and he joins us live.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
The Dockers are ready themselves for a Thursday night to
advance their claims against the beleagued Bombers.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
And how long is too long? And the burgeoning contract markets.
Simo and Horse ponder if the Max deal needs a limits.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
We talked about his step into it in brace Aulibert.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
In the room and rent it.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
It's unedifying for a senior coach to do that.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
They're on the side of Courtia with the brain tape.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
The man on they played the best footy I've ever
seen at the start of the season. And in the
president left the couple older said he.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Of course they do.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Is the stuff that legends are made of.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
What is holding the ball?
Speaker 5 (00:45):
I don't think I could answer it clearly right now
that I can do.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Something wrong, you know, And I need to get and
the board sexual the.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Fans lover and with no fans no through sixty year old.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Around fifteen is almost upon us. But Gazz Last night,
Jesse Hogan and Patrick Cripps how keen Dregon They are
to play together for Western Australia.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
They're as keen as you would be to mee at
Royal Ashcott right now, where your beautiful wife is Claire
and your daughter beck who's going to have a twenty
first birthday tomorrow. They are in the rule box yesterday
and you don't want to be here, you want to
be there, but you are here.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
So it's a good thing. Those Foma. I can see
it in your Jared.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I know you love your footy, but the Royal listen, no,
the boys here they're a little eyes lit up when
we started talking state footy back and the under sixteen
days they at the hark back to those West Australian.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Days champions in twenty ten. So we've got photos from
their under fifteen year here, Gaz. So this is the
collective champions. You're just going to walk us around here
and show us who's who.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, let's go to bottom right where a pre pubescent
Patrick Cripps is nearly the smallest player in the team.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Jared, can you believe that? Sitting down the front row
front row, and that's.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Big dog Jesse oga back and you've got to hear
under his arm pits and he's ready to roll, and
he's got a cut of good teammates because they go.
They talked about was how Jack Martin. Martin got him
across the line. And there's Dom who kicked one of
the most famous goals in history. And then it takes
all types and we all develop at different ages. Jerry,
there's a half a sleeve there for a young man
(02:20):
the under fifteens, which I do reckon. You'd rock, but
that's it takes all types.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I love it what he's Someone will tell us the
name of that young man. Hopefully he's still playing foot.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
And I can't imagine that that's stopped there.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
I wouldn't imagine. So no one's Dusty got his eye in.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Let's have a look at what we've got coming up
for Tonight's John My Adam Simpson, Patrick Dangerfield is about
to join us in Brendan Favola with a heart warming
story and then First Crack preview will set you up
what to look for. In round fifteen. Ben Dixon is
with David King and Lee Montagna. We'll do our d
days shortly, but we're heading for more.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
We only postponed detay for very very special men.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Alright, our agenda starts with what will be the centerpiece
story of Friday Night Footy, Patrick Dangerfield Reag's game three
hundred and fifty. He'll become the twenty fifth player in
league history to do so, and it furthers a story
legacy in the game.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
One of the most remarkable things about Patrick he's playing
is three hundred and fiftieth. It snuck up on me
a little bit. It doesn't feel like it's even close
to the end.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
The superlatives that we've used on Patrick over the years
have been just well deserved.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
And then you had to go back to.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Your book to see if there's anything you hadn't said
about him, because he did it all again.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
His ability to keep our players kind of mind on
what's important has been amazing. And I go back to
this the measure of the man. He was, if not
the best player in the competition, pretty close.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
When he came to our club.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Had every right to Puppy's chest out and say on
the man.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
By dageer Field accelerated through, but he slotted him by.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
I'm Josh Sellwood said, Joel's the captain on here to
support him. So he did his thing on field, but
off field he was so happy he did number two.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
And he had every right to say, I reckon, I'm
number one.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
But that's the thing I admire the most.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Friday Night forty Shapes is one of the biggest games
of the season. The Cats and the Lions, who have
a hoodoo to overcome down the Highway and individually the
centerpiec Is Patrick, Dangerfields, Pat Congratulations preemptively and welcome back
to three point sixty.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Thanks Jered, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Coach says, not even close to the end.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
How does that feel for you? Well, it feels pretty good,
I reckon. Well, I'm definitely closer to the end, but
not not enjoying pretty any less. That's certainly true as
I get older.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
So this is a rare mile stone in the history
of the game, only the twenty fifth player to do so.
Have you got a sense of what it does mean
to you?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
It's been lovely to have a few phone calls throughout
the week and plenty of text messages from old teammates
and old players that used to play against. And that's
sort of been a nice little reflective piece, I suppose,
because you get a few different random texts and then
it takes you back to the early days of Adelaide
or you know, playing against some champions of the game
(05:28):
and little moments like that. So it's been nice to reflect.
I don't often do it. I don't think players do
it often, and it's probably only milestones that they do
sort of take a step back. But it's been nice
to sort of live in the moment a bit this week.
And yeah, recollect.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Well, deserve Patrick, congratulations, the praise and edulations. Only going
to reach your peak when you run out there on
Friday nights, sit.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Back and enjoy all that.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I was taken by what Chris said to us on
Monday night sat here, and you know, he was just said, look,
it's not even close. And then you've had some soft
tissues that have enabled you to have breaks through the year. Now,
I know you don't plan for that, but the bottom
line is that the transformation is on the midfield day
the days of the midfield, and we're not behind you forever.
You make cameos, but you now sort of set yourself
(06:21):
for the final phase. I would imagine as a forward,
how was that presented to you, How have you embraced it?
Speaker 4 (06:26):
And are you comfortable in the role.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Very comfortable in it gas. I think it evolved throughout
the preseason as we feel like as a team there's
some you know, the players are more than capable of
taking their own games in there to the next level,
and the game is very much a transition game that
as you get older, and it was never truly my
(06:52):
one would gazz as you would know. For me, it
was about power on the game. The position that enables
you to do that most effectively is forward, where you
can you know, you can pick your moments and then
when it's time to exlerate and hit the contest, you
can do it. But it's just not the same partn
trust that is required in the modern midfield role, which
(07:17):
is you know, in so the heyday people while ago
now it was around that sort of twelve and a
half to fourteen k mark, but around the twelve twelve
and a bit, and that's that's evolved and does evolve
for every player. I remember modeling a bit of my
game off Joe because Scott Campeley, who was one of
(07:41):
my midfield coaches, my midfield coach at Adelaide and a
really big impact on my career. Joe would go around
the center square and it would just be contest to
contest and the next contest, so and he would do
around eight and a half to nine k's again and
really impact, which is extraordinary think that you could run
(08:03):
only that far but it's still really impacted and get
a lot of the footing. So it's changed over time.
But as a thirty five year old understanding where my
body's at now, the forward role, yeah, it suits me,
and it's not easier to keep weight off as you
get older. But what it doesn't that what you do
(08:24):
is to wrestle with a few of the big monster defenders.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, and so we have a look at these numbers.
I'm not sure whether you saw them when they come up.
So you've got to reconcile the fact that you've got
to get less footy, having spent most of your career
accumulating plenty, but have more impact with the opportunities that come.
And you've made an unbelievable fist of that.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
So there would be times.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I'd imagine you'll come off the field feeling like you
haven't not play, but you haven't contested in the manner
that you have.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Is that hard to you hit it?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Yeah? It is. It's funny. I was saying to Gains
Junior this morning and we were talking around that because
that was obviously how he ended his career. And you
just wrap your head around the impact and how you're
just going to spend less time around the ball making
the moment's count. But it doesn't make it any easier
when you can feel like you're in good touch and
playing a game of footy, but you haven't touched the
(09:13):
ball for fifteen minutes and you might you know, you
might only touch it for two or three times in
a quarter. So mentally that's a different challenge in itself.
And it's been really good to understand the forward craft
and what our forwards go through in terms of being
a byproduct of the play out the field and the
(09:35):
resolve that you need to have in order to keep
yourself in the contest mentally as much as physically.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
The most striking aspects of the season. I think Pat
with who has been how dynamic you are, how powerful
you are, And I guess we plotted this through some
of the soft tissue injuries, whether there was a point
you were going to have to trade away some of that,
but it looks like you haven't had to so you've
modified the game from mid to forward, but you haven't
had to trade away your power.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Is that right? Yeah? I think that probably the big
thing that affects it mostly in terms of soft tissue
for me, is just a fatigue, and you're just under
less fatigue playing forward. There's more accelerations. So there's parts
of my game physically that have that. There are a
significant uplift on the last few years compared to midfield
(10:23):
time because you've got the accelerations and the decelerations that
have gone right up. You're spending less time in that
sort of twenty odd jogging from contest to contest, but
when you go, it's really time to go. And I
think that's you know, you've got to keep that part
of your game as you get older, and as soon
as you lose your power and your speed, you know,
(10:44):
it's pretty hard to compete. So I don't feel like
I've lost that part of my game. There's other parts
that have deteriorated, but I don't feel like the speed
and power piece. You know, I feel as powerful and
I did five ten years ago, to be honest, just
i'd have that ability to back it up over long stretches.
And for high kilometers. But I still feel like if
(11:08):
you know the ball's there to be gotten and I
can attack it in the air on the ground, I
can do that as well as I'd better have.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yes, So you look like a wrecking ball at various
stages at the moment.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
What are you working?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
What's your forward craft naturally like? And what are you
working on?
Speaker 3 (11:23):
My forward crafts and James Riley has been wonderful for this.
My forward craft wasn't always great, still isn't, to be honest,
It's a work in progress, and I've been really fortunate
to be And that's mum and Dad's mom and dad
to think gifted with speed and power, But what that
sometimes means is you rely on that speed and power
(11:46):
and less on your craft and reading of the play.
So as you get older and there's little dips here
and there, that the craft becomes more important. And I've
had more time to be able to put into that
because I've been playing in just that position rather than
changing from mid to forward or vice versa. So this
(12:07):
is mean, this is meant I can sort of hone
in on that craft a bit more rather than just
relying on genetic traits of speed and power. That helps, obviously,
but what helps that even more is read and play early,
good body positioning where you don't always have to turn
on the gas. You know, ninety five out one hundred
(12:28):
every time.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Tell us about your ability, and this is one of
the things that I admired about you over this great
journey is your ability to compartmentalize if you like. So
you've been you know, you started as a schoolboy. That
would your first two games you were still here in Melbourne,
traveling over and then throughout the journey a new Craig
tild great stories of yesterday about it.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
But you've always.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Presented publicly relaxed. You don't appear to be carrying heavy
burdens and lands, although I'm sure you have. Throughout the
course of your career. You've taken on, you know, high
profile positions such as the captaincy and also the Player's
Association presidency, and you always do it with great grace
and dignity. I reckon irrespective of what's happening in your
footy life. So just talk us through that. There's young
(13:11):
kids coming into footy who get burdened and heavy, and
I did at various stages, but it doesn't seem it's
the thing I've admired about you. You might be put
on a good front, I don't know, But can you
share with.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Surround yourself good people? I think that's that's you know,
that's a key ingredient to any good performance, whether it's
professional sport or working life. I think when you're surrounded
by good people, that makes it a heck of a
lot better prioritizing the most important things in any particular role.
So when you're playing, it's clearly it's plain, but once
(13:48):
you can't affect a result or you know, what I've
probably learned is and whether it's pair or other sort
of connections that I've made, is not being too emotionallynnected
to it and understand there's a bigger picture a play,
whether that's the collective players, whether that's the collective competition
and what's best for it. You know, that's been a
(14:10):
learning process to me. I understand it a heck of
a lot better at thirty five than I did at
twenty five. So and then I think understanding that footy
is and everything, it's it's a huge part of my life.
And you know, when people say family always comes first,
the reality is when you're a professional sportsperson, it's not
true like the big parts of someone gets sick. Of course,
(14:34):
your family comes first, but the day to day that's
not how it is. Footy comes first. Everything's centered around that,
and to be really good, that's for me, it's just
how it has had to have been, and my wife
and family have been unbelievable in that sense. So you
do sort of have to I think I understand that
(14:56):
piece and then have that close in a circle of
people that you can trust and talk to that sort
of keep your grounded and also give you great wisdom
when you're dealing with different things. And it's changed over
my time from becoming a really good player within the
competition in my early twenties mid twenties, taking over the PA,
(15:21):
becoming captain and just having people that you can constantly
talk to them and bounce things off. I'd talk to
Shann Higgins three or four times a week, you know,
most mornings, and just talk about leadership stuff and the
way to approach different scenarios, different players, how you can
get the best out of people and tactful ways, so
(15:43):
you can't just do it yourself. You've got to have
some people that you talk to and spend time with
and value with.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Players in their mid thirties is sometimes you are drawn
to the question around footing, mortality and gays. Having spoken
to you last weeks with your back, you said you
knew the exact.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Minute that you're the second that you were a time.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Are you enjoying being an aging footballer, Pat or do
you yearn for your mid twenties when you first dominated
the competition.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
I do love being an older player. I must admit,
like there's things that you learn that are invaluable and
the only way to gain that experience is to experience it,
the only way to really understand that, you know what,
No one is actually really following your career all that closely.
Apart from him dad, no one really cares that much.
(16:38):
So don't you know, don't destroy yourself after a poor performance,
or don't internalize and stew over things that you think
everyone's looking at that you know what, they're not. They
don't care. They've got things in their own lives or
in their own careers, or in their own jobs or
whatever it might be. So to be able to pull
back on that and see that now I think it
(17:00):
helps with performance and focusing on what's important around leadership
and the cultural impact that you can have. But I
love playing against older players that I love catching up
with them after games and having a chuckle around, you know,
trying to keep up with the young guys.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Coaching.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
The coaches you have in your life, I think have
a massive bearing on who you are and what sort
of person you've become. And I think for you and
Chris Scott, it almost looks like a perfect marriage of
footballer and coach. Captain and coach. Now just explore that
a bit in terms of the way he goes. I
think he's a fascinating character.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Chris.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I don't know him clearly as well as any of
you guys, but he seems to have balance, he seems
to have perspective, and it seems to marry really well
with you.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
I reckon, Yeah, it does. I think we have a
very similar outlook on sport and on the important pass
of sport and the balance that's needed. Not that we
always probably each of us live exactly what we you know,
we we preach at times because you can get you know,
(18:09):
disappointed with losses and stewing it for a bit. But
you're the your the face is an older player, and
he's the you know, he's our he's our leader. So
you do have to fake it at times because you
know it's about the greater good of the building. But
I've yeah, we've had such an incredible ride together, a
wonderful relationship. I think we view the game similar, doesn't
(18:32):
It doesn't mean we always aground things, but yeah, he's
been so impactful right throughout my career and I'm bloody
thankful to have had him as a coach and we
are as an organization because it's just it's made the
place fun, and I think that's the most important ingredient
(18:53):
in sport. I coached my son's under ninety and it's
got to be fun. Training's got to be fun. Games
have to be fun, and it really shouldn't change as
you become a professional athlete. As long as it's channeled
in the right way, that's the key to peak performance.
I think that's the key to great buy in, whether
it's a nine year old or a twenty nine year old.
(19:14):
And Chris has driven that and I suppose tried to
reinforce it as well.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
You'll see alongside him at a press conference tomorrow. I
have this one in your back pocket. So it's May
two thousand and three. It's the last time the Brisbane
lines one at Kadinia Park and in the twenty eight minutes.
The man who makes it safe is.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
One Chris Scott, a nugget. He for such an eloquent speaker,
He's so bad at talking about himself. He's tested. I'm
sure you guys would know that. When he comes on
or you're asking about his coaching, he's happy to talk
more broadly about it, but he's terrible of talking about himself.
(19:54):
He's a very humble person and he's been so good
for us the games you spoke about Neil Craig, he
was the other really big impact on my career. Taught
wonderful values early on around professionalism and what was needed
at the level. Yeah, he was incredible as well.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
The other feature of Friday Night it's going to be
kick out the Cattery, So the white T shirts all
round there are going to be on every seat, so
a bit like we see in the NBA and in
college football, it should be some sort of site in
the stands.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah, it'll be fantastic. It's a great initiative. We're really
excited for it as players, and you can just see
the visual impact that it has overseas, so we feel
like it could be pretty pretty special for us as
catch people. And yeah, having forty one thousand of those
on Friday night, it's going to be pretty spectacular.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Hopefully it's a great one for your patn as always,
thank you for your time and we'll see you down there.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Thanks Jared, Thanks Gays, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Dangers Field Game three hundred fifty Modern Day.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
I on the opposition.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I think opposition support is good nature then, but grudgingly,
and some probably don't like him, but the thing that
gets him is he just smiles his way through whatever's
going on. That's what I've loved throughout his whole career,
and he just wears it and gets all of.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
It all right.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Let's have a quick look at the teams for tomorrow night.
Fremantle going for five wins in a row and they
should improve their position for eight if they do so.
Minimal change for the Dockers. Ashan O'Driscoll in, Swatkowski's with
the hamstring injury, and Darcy is being managed, so too
is Todd Goldstein, who's carried a mountain of work since
zandzac Day and Dawis has been omitted. Vyscentini, Vigo. Vyscentini
(21:38):
comes in second year on the rookie list. He's going
to play his first game in Hobbs's back. This means Gaz.
There are six teenagers in that Essendon team. There are
six players with four games or fewer and nine with
twenty three games or fewer. The experience of that is
Caddy with his twenty three games, so remarkably young.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Tam Yeah, it's his extraordinary circumstances. So for Bamba fans,
you continue to get exposed to your list. So that's
the good thing about it. And the three minut of lockers.
They just sleak it up on a few Jared. So
when you're putting together a run of wins like this
and they go in as red hot favorites, there are
bigger challenges to come.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
But they should get this done.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
You think.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
So. The ground is a bit of a curiosity, having
played two games on the weekend. The state of Origin
Rugby League is there tonight I expected and rain tomorrow,
so it might be a cowpaddic by the time they
get there. We'll wait and see. That has been a
demanding then a bit of a strange schedule. In all honesty,
Ossie brought band D Day. Who is round fifteen? D
(22:33):
Day four in your mind, I've.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Gone back to the Swan's.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I've had him as a D Day a couple of
times throughout the course of this year, Jared. But they
are running out of chances, and the chances may have
already gone, but they welcome back a couple of players
by the name of Gulden and Papley.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
That's what I'm told at this stage.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
It's Wednesday night and we know how significant they are,
so they need to get rolling where the finals are
beyond them this year is probably relevant about tomorrow night.
They just got to get those players back in and
start to remind themselves what sort of footy they can play.
And there's no more Papley's influence as a spirit person
in this team and then Golden for what he also
(23:12):
brings in a connection piece really important. So put Adelaide
very good one to two on the bounce, so you
know there'll be a great challenge for Swance.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
You got North Melbourne.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
This takes us back to Good Friday where we pegged
it as the most important game of Alista Clarkson's reign
and it went horribly, an eighty two point loss. Since then,
seven games, two wins and a draw, three credible losses,
including this against Fremantle last week. The one blemish was
against Collingwood where they hung tough for a long time.
But we're not marking anyone down on their performances against Collingwood.
So it's back to Carlton. They've lost their past five
(23:44):
against them. The average losing margin has been eight goals,
and that question is there again, what have you got?
It's the litmus test, step up to it. There'll be
a moment when North Melbourne steps up to Carlton and
says enough is that at the MCG on Saturday after
I think you've got me.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
I think your d day is better than mine, Eyebill.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Carlton steer them down, May Machai, I know Walsh, potentially
no Kerno.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
This is a big moment for.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Them, all right.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
So North Melbourne take their turn. Let's bring in our coaches.
They've got long term contracts on their minds.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
They've got a bit of an.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Into out vision to make us smarter. John Longmye and
Adam Simpson to join us in a few moments time.
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