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July 22, 2025 24 mins

Catch up on all the footy news from AFL 360, Tuesday the 22nd of July with Gerard Whateley and Garry Lyon.

Gerard Whateley and Garry Lyon are back for a huge edition of AFL 360, chatting live with Carlton’s Sam Docherty to reflect on his unorthodox career after announcing his retirement from footy. They then discuss Marcus Bontempelli’s new Western Bulldogs deal, which will see him stay the club until at least 2029.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Sam Dougherty calls time and a career marked by resilience
and courage. The veteran Blue joins US live.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Four more years for Marcus Bontampali.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
The wait for the Bulldogs captain's signature ends after a
historic night of celebration.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
And the descent debates rare nights. Razor recounts how he
got here, and we'll ask the players what they expect now.

Speaker 4 (00:28):
We've talked about is this step into it, embrace all of.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
It in the room and Pat it's unedifying for a
senior coach to do that.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
They're on the side of Courtia with the brain, take
the man on.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
They played the best footy I've ever seen at the
start of a season, and injury, said president left. The
couple older said, of course they do.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
It is the stuff that legends are made of. What
is holding the ball?

Speaker 5 (00:46):
I don't think I could answer it clearly right now that.

Speaker 6 (00:49):
I can do something wrong, you know, and I need
to get and the boards actually the fans lover and
with no fans, no through sixty year old.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Late July and retirements come into focus. Scazz, did you
do the address in front of the team.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yep, that's not one you look forward Tod Jared and
doesn't matter how hard or stoke he might be, the
little lump in the throat comes and I know we're
going to talk to Sam in a moment, and it's
a tough one.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
That did you get through everything you wanted to say?
I did?

Speaker 3 (01:23):
And now I walked straight out the door and straight
to the pump in the middle of the year because
you can't stay around because it is it's a very
very emotional time. We'll talk to Sam about it. We're
about to see some real emotions.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yes, Tavy Green, Travis pok are our players on Judy,
Sam Dougherty who shared a lot of his journey with us,
and Ray Chamberlain so raised his edge on the umpiring
issues of the day, which are pretty hot. Then Lauren
Wood will lead us through the latest news in the
midweek tackle Corbyn Middlemiss and John ralph On Juddy Tomorrow
night our favorite pairing, John Longmire and Adam Simpson.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Simon good Woman is with us.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
We'll have the teams for Hawthorne and Carlton. Now John
has done well, He's done his own immersion. They went
to the umpires a couple of weeks ago. Cross pollination
with the NRL.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
I love this.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Spent Friday night with the Roosters and with coach Trent Robinson.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, I think this is outstanding.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Like I can't wait to talk to Horse about it
because I'd imagine throughout and particularly in Sydney. Up there
in Sydney he would have been immersed in this whole
world of the Rugby League and the other code as well.
But to hear and find out because it was fascinating
to hear them both talk about the professionalism of the
Empire fraternity and how closely it was aligned to the
professionalism of AFL clubs. And now to get the comparison

(02:35):
between our code and the NRLs, that's sensation.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Is probably something you wanted to do for a long time.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
As a senior coach, you're probably a bit stressed and
you can't do that. But I love seeing the codes crossover.
So that'll be a great chat tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
We'll learn about it all.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Then, all right, let's get into the agenda. One of
the most enduring and admired figures of his generation has
called time. Sam Dougherty will take his final curtain call
for the Blues on Thursday nights. It is a career
marks by excellence and by endurance, a willingness to persist,
and it's sparked a wave of emotion today within Carlton.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
Crip.

Speaker 7 (03:16):
Sorry, mate, we don't get to share that moment together.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
We've been out.

Speaker 7 (03:21):
We've been out this for a long time, man, and
from crisis meeting walks on a Sunday to two beers
and oh, we've been having this solid goal for a
very very long time, man.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
And I love you.

Speaker 8 (03:39):
I hope you get what you deserve in foot and
I hope you get what you're what you're chasing. But
I want to thank you for everything you've given me.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
I got the fairy tale end that I'm sort of
looking for.

Speaker 8 (03:50):
In the end, it's an opportunity to put on the
game the guernsey one more time with my teammates, run
out there with the kids. It's something pretty special on Thursday.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
It'll be pretty special for Blues fans to show their
sense of gratitude as well. A man boy who grew
up barracking for the Blues, he led them as captain,
he'll play.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
For them one more time.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
We do Tuesday Favorites type and this is the Sam
Dockerty edition to choose a moment.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Yeah, around twenty two, twenty twenty two season Round one
been through Helen back from an emotional point of view
and from the testicular cancer situation, and that's the.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Coach of the opposition.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
It's been moved to come across the ground and give
him a hard and embrace him.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Just great to be back.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
I'd imagine there'd be heaps of things going through his
mind and this is what you're hoping for that you
get one of those moments you're in the game where
the whole Carlton team can just I think, show just
how much they love him and appreciate what he's been
through and to celebrate with him. That is genuine, raw,
real emotion Jared, And that's symbolic with Semi's career paths

(04:52):
really and it's going to be great pleasure to have
a chat with him in a.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Minute twenty twenty three semi final, this is his whole
career at large. I Reckon dislocates his shoulder during the
game against Melbourne, but never to be stopped by adversity.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
So I imagine.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Strap it up, jab it up, get back out.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
There and commit to the cause.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
And then he ends up being the central figure in
an iconic play in Carlton history. And I remember the
stands were shaking, like I can really record the mcg
brave as they come overhead marked with that shoulder hanging
loose kick at the acres in the square.

Speaker 9 (05:30):
I wasn't sharing quite the enthusidge Jared. I was sitting
out on the concourse watching this right in amongst that group,
trying to be the impartial stoic commentator at that time.
But Jacob Wadering involved in that as well as going
to play Game two under along with him on the
week on Thursday Nights.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Good got halfway through that and realized my eraror just too.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Sam Dogny has shared a lot with us on AFL
three sixty and so it is tonight as well. Sam. Congratulations.
We really appreciate you having you with us, so welcome.

Speaker 8 (06:02):
Thanks boys, Thanks having me on the last one other day,
so you've got me my most fatigued.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
How has the day been.

Speaker 8 (06:13):
It's been amazing, to be honest, I've been through it
had obviously you've shared a bit of what the team
meeting was like with the staff and the players, and
then the press conference after that I was lucky enough
to have my wife and my kids here. We've got
some really nice family photos, and to be honest, it's
just been nice internally and externally, the celebration and love

(06:36):
and everything that's been sent my way. It's been pretty
overwhelming so far. And yeah, it's a weird feeling, I'll
tell you that much. It's I'm really looking forward to
sort of lock them back into game mode for one
more time. But yeah, the reflection of a long career
and many years at the club and the ups and

(06:58):
downs of it all, it's been.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
It's been a pretty crazy few.

Speaker 8 (07:02):
Days and a very emotional one today.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Congratulations Sam.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Every pass player that has had to retire and do
what you did today would have been watching the emotion
come through and take.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
You back to that time.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
And it's often a player a face somewhere in the
group as you're talking to them. In this instance, it
was Patty Cripps. You talked about the amount of coffees
and the crisis meetings and all that that resonates with
all of us, and that is the stuff that you
will miss.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
More than you know right now.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
And I'd imagine it was the impetus for the overwhelming emotion.

Speaker 8 (07:36):
Yeah, I think that's that's the part of footy that
is a bit underrated in so many aspects.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
There's the there's.

Speaker 8 (07:44):
What's produced out on the footy field, but the reality
is most of our jobs actually inside the footy club during.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
The week nights on the piece.

Speaker 8 (07:52):
It's everything in between that is unseen by so many
that that you enjoy the most.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
What ends up on game day becomes some.

Speaker 8 (08:02):
Of the core memories because it's so critical in what
they've seen by everyone else. But yeah, the amount of work,
and like Crips won one of a few that I
broke down with in the team meeting, to be honest,
but they've only showed one so far, so we'll see
what else they pop up.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
But yeah, for.

Speaker 8 (08:20):
Him and me, it's it's been a long journey together.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
It's been captain of the club with him. It's one
of my best mates.

Speaker 8 (08:25):
We've been here for such a long time, we had
we've been driven to take this foota club to back
to the success that we wanted to give it. And
unfortunately I don't get that. But I've said a number
of times today I will I walk away pretty happy
and fulfilled with everything else that's that's happened throughout my career.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
So your story, Ark Sam is nothing like what a
boy would imagine I expect as grew up barracking for
Carlton the first round draft pick. You end up at
Carlton in your second year, you win your Best and
Fairest and you're all Australian and then life takes you
on a on a wickedly difficult journey. How have you
come to put it all together for what footy was

(09:04):
going to be and what it all ends up being.

Speaker 8 (09:10):
Yeah, that's been probably my biggest piece of reflection. I
kind of I think most people would come into footy
in the thought of playing three hundred games and I
don't know, winning Brownlow Medals and.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
Best and Fairest in all Australians.

Speaker 8 (09:23):
That's kind of what takes your fancy when your first start.
And I obviously got dealt a set of cards that
were pretty difficult to play at times, and the reality
is losing my dad sort of made all the personal
accolades sort of makes sense for me. But my cancer
diagnosis kind of changed the goalposts in some ways about

(09:45):
what I actually value.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
In my career.

Speaker 8 (09:46):
And I'm nearly thirty two years old, and my value
is placed on the people and the relationships and the
hope that I get to provide to people. As I
said before, the day to day is what I I've
loved here and the people that I've met. I've had
thousands of teammates for senior coaches, a number of other
coaches in between that, and they're the memories that I

(10:09):
take with me that that's all the stuff that I
get to take into the next phase of my life
and all the lessons I've learned through all.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
The adversity that I've faced.

Speaker 8 (10:18):
I feel privileged and luckily lucky to have gone through
that in some weird way because I walk out with
perspective and I don't think I don't think that was
the lesson I thought I was going to get when
I when I came to footy. But that's what I've
ended up with, and I'm very glad that I've got it.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
And for me to be able to.

Speaker 8 (10:36):
Provide hope to people that are in tough situations, that's
just something that's an added bonus. I, through my circumstances,
have been left in a position that gets to do
that and I love it. I hang on to every
message that I get that if I've inspired hope. I
just saw a video from Noah from Perth, little boy

(10:56):
that had cancer when he was a kid, balling his
eyes out that I tired to day. That's the stuff
that that sort of drives you, and that's what I
that's what I got to do. And Yeah, given the
cards that I got dealt, I didn't get probably exactly
what I wanted from a personal perspective, but in the
end that doesn't really matter.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
I got so much more.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
At what point along the way, and you're still a
young man when you go through this, do you become
comfortable that your symbolic of something else? So there is
football excellence, but your symbolic of something bigger and something
that you never would have set out to be.

Speaker 8 (11:34):
Yeah, I think going through chemo was a really big
moment for me, obviously, and the deal for doc campaign
and the club ran and then obviously coming back in
that sort of in that game round one after sort
of three months of prepping for a game and having
that moment kind of transcended everything that I thought football was.

(11:55):
And so honestly I've just leant into that and that's
it's been such an enjoyable experience.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
It's been. It's given me so.

Speaker 8 (12:04):
Much purpose about what I do and what I am
as a person, and I've ended up at Peter Mack
Foundation on the board because of it. It's something pretty
special that I get to hold close to my heart.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
That is about footy, but it's about life.

Speaker 8 (12:18):
It's about something that's bigger than me and every part
of footy, which, as I said, a hold close to
my heart doesn't sort of take away from my footballing
stuff and the personal achievement as well, but it's something
that I hold very dearly to me.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Your guid's achievement we just saw then your wife, Nat
and your two children. As you say, you lost your
father at the time, I wasn't aware of that. And
then the nature of your cancer. The notion of fatherhood
must have been difficult one to try and get your
hit around as well, whether or not you can and
you can't.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
That's the end of it all there right there.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Sam, you walk out in front of the footy media,
will farewell you on Thursday night from what we do
our stuff in but just certain you're there with your
girls and your wife.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
That's your greatest achievement.

Speaker 8 (13:08):
Yeah it is, and that's kind of part the end
of my press of today is I've had many purposes
that are in footy.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
My purpose now is my family.

Speaker 8 (13:19):
Whereas footballers live such selfish lives, and I don't mean
that in a bad way. It's just the industry and
what's required to be a high level performer of the
stay in the industry for a long period of time.
But sometimes that means that the sacrifices are at home
and I'm looking forward to being able to just be
a toad, be a husband, spend some time at home,

(13:39):
spend some time to relax and enjoy what it's like
to I don't have a little bit less stress on
the plate and go and enjoy wine on a Wednesday night,
and go have dinner on Friday and not worry about.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
The game on Sunday.

Speaker 8 (13:51):
It's kind of the little things that I'm looking forward
to now. Doesn't take away as I said, I cherish
every day I've ever played for Carlton and to be
able to play one more on Thursday night with my teammates,
with all of the love that's been with third plus
one of my best mates, two hundredth games, it seems

(14:13):
like it seems like the right time, and it seems
like it's going to be a special night.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
It'll be special, all right.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Enjoy it, Sam, thanks for sharing it with us tonight.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
Thanks guys, Thanks having me on.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Good on you, Sam Dougherty, who has been part of
the three sixty family for a good few years now.
So that's going to be an emotion charge night to go.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
To change of your life that he will get and
he'll Yeah, he's got such balance and much more of
life experiences than I had when I have tired or others.
But all of a sudden, your reason and you're planning
and your diary and you need this and that. What
you eat, what you like. He just said that realization

(14:51):
is overwhelming. You go, I can have a beer, I
can go out on Frid, I can do the weekend.
I can take off the first time in his adult life,
he's free of that.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
And that's liberating, Jared.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Once you make peace with your footy career being over,
it is a liberating.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Feeling, all power to it.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
It was inconceivable that Marcus Bontepelli would be anywhere other
than the Western Bulldogs. And while it has dragged on
to before round twenty the new contractor is done four
more years to further Here's legacy at Wittenoval.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
What does the club mean to you?

Speaker 10 (15:29):
It means so much and it's hard to sort of
put it into a few words, to be honest, Like,
it's really where I've grown as a man. It's where
I've spent really the most, you know, all of my
adult years, you know, coming here at eighteen, so a
lot of I guess who I am today is you
know obviously a big part of my family and my upbringing,
but especially when I think about the person I've sort

(15:50):
of want to become, but it's been influenced by the
people I've spent a lot of time with and that's
here at the football club. For me, it's so special,
the fans, the people that have supported me along the way.
I've never I've never not felt supported by our people
here at the Bulldogs and that's a really a really
important thing that I know a lot of people don't
get to experience. So I feel incredibly lucky to have

(16:11):
had that for so long.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
I doubt it's the last contract he'll have at the
Western Bulldogs either. It's a hefty seven figures reflective of
his status within the game and out the club. Now
when you've got all time greatness in your midst gas
and I do think for the Bulldogs this has them
on the clock and it has done for a little
while and there's a realization of that. Is he going
to be a premiership captain at the Dogs is the

(16:33):
biggest question that sits over this contract.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Had a bit of a look at it.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
There's twelve names that you'd lock away as saying are
capable of being premiership players.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Three of them are A pluses. There's two a's, there's
five bs.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
There's Trelaw and Weightman who are in the injured goal
and then you've got Jordan Croft, Cooper Hind Sanders I
put in there and Bustling a high investment kids, so
they need.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
To come on one of them.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
The worry is of all that group, there's two defense
which is Rory Love.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
I've got in there as a B and then an
A in bailey Dale.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
So that's the review. We know that everyone's talked about it.
I'm sure Bevo knows about it. Can Jordan Grocraft become
that play Maybe can Bustling and go and become the
player they hope he's going to be. And if they
do develop in the manner that you hope they do
when you take him as a really early first round ut,
then yeah, you'll get another look at it. Because he
got Darcy and they've got Richards, they got Libber, and
they've got Dale, and they've got Frasier and Norton and

(17:27):
so and they got BoNT the thing.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
So it is exciting for them.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
And he would have sacrificed hundreds of thousands of dollars
to stay, but he.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Was never gone anywhere. There's BoNT in his prime, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
So this is twenty nine, This takes him to thirty three,
So whatever happens after that, these are the prime. These
are the last prime is So his CV and his
legacy is in sharp focus at the moment. Last night
E J. Whitten ted written retained the mantle as the
number one bulldog. And these are nights for historic it's

(18:00):
not for recency buyer, So that was fitting. There will
be a time at the one hundred and fiftieth celebrations when
Bontepelli's body of work is finished, and then you'll be
able to put them up side by side.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
But I like what they did last night.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Yeah, and that list, I mean I read the criteria.
The list was your contribution to the club as well,
which may know Chris Grand up there. We had the
debate today and right like everyone did wear Scotty wears.
It's a great debate. They're all great and that is
a great show. That's a lovely Brandlow Medalist and Doggie
Hawk of these this is the royalty. So yeah, will contribute,
I'm sure beyond well probably let's say, I hope he

(18:35):
does and you make coach and who knows like Ted
like EJ did and then Ted was the biggest figure
in footy, so he's that's still to play out for Marcus.
But she's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Five. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Yeah, it's a decorated centenary, isn't it? All right our
furnace scaz came from our two coaches last night. There's
a lot in play at footy right now, and they
were wholeheartedly engaged.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
Thanks.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Sorry, you don't give it a flip?

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Yeah yeah. If Greg's one rang you and asked you
about the start, you're a yes or null on the stub.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
No, get rid of it. Horrible same the game length?
Can I be tidied? Up easily.

Speaker 5 (19:14):
I think the game is to on full stop. I
think they should shorten the actual quarter length. But the
score reviews, the umpires waiting for the rackman to get
to a stop is a complete nonsense.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
Throw it up all the time.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
And a bounced guy. I'm not a bounce guy.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
I like to bounce.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
But no recalls.

Speaker 11 (19:32):
But why because I think I think variability is one
of the great parts of our game.

Speaker 5 (19:37):
It's not that variable if it goes four meters outside
the circle.

Speaker 11 (19:40):
If they recall, they shouldn't have recalled.

Speaker 5 (19:41):
No bounce, no father son either while we're ating. I'm
not se I sort of have I think all these
things are romantic ideas.

Speaker 11 (19:52):
The thing I would like. As far as the safety element,
I think it should be more incumbent on the player
who's trying to get hurt that he is. This is
advice to do that something I would lead three.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Kick against for leading with your head to be a
great result even may where do.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
You sit on that?

Speaker 5 (20:07):
If I were the MRO, I wouldn't have put it
up at all. No football accident, yep.

Speaker 11 (20:14):
Yeah, I don't think he was trying to hurt him,
So I think intent should be taking into account with
the m R.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
O more than outcome.

Speaker 5 (20:24):
If he's took into the umpires, ain't look at the score.
He didn't do that. He was looking at for his
own curiosity.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Oh yeah, that was a bad free kick, Rufe and Tasmania.

Speaker 11 (20:36):
You've played it so we could go just let's just
keep Hawthorn.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
And they were very good for.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
They were in good form and that thrown their weight
behind a few issues.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
That's its sizeable, hefty weight.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
All right.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Play a bit of reel or overreaction. The father son
is under siege overreaction.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
But when Chris Gott throws his name and suggesting of it,
then the siege mentality can be.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Felt by some, but it'll survive because.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
The overwhelming notion is we love the romance about it,
and killed are up against that frio. We know are
spoken out against that. Chris Scott will have been called
into the office. It's not that you call Chris got
in office. But that's a reaction.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
The Wizard and Jack Aaron noticed this was.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
So intriguing, wasn't so this is real? Is sam unprompted
raise the issue of the players trying to draw the
high free kick and the dangerous scenario that that is,
and they have the two of the chief protagonists of
this minute.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
So that's what we're talking about there in that instance
there that the free kick should be paid to Ryan
because you instigated by dropping your head.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
That one not not as dangerous if you like.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
It's the one where you sort of drive in and
then in the end if the player who's driven in
gets really badly hurt, then we've got a problem with
the game, and it's avoidable.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
The sub rule will be gone in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
I'm saying real. The coaches were both resolute last night.
Chris Fagan's res loot, Greg Swan talks to Chris Fagan and.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Brad's got today.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
I think it's unanimous.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah, I think, well it is, but we'll see how
it goes.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
Three minutes can easily be clipped from the game.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
I'm treading on your path here. This is real simple
nip and tuck easy, start it from this weekend and
just see where it gets to and then do the
deep project. The time the dead time in the game
is it's never been addressed, so just let's get on
with addressing it.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Yeah, so all this is nominating two others that aren't
there to say, look, we're throwing this here or up
one of you've got to go up and then and
then that means if it's Tom Stewart and someone else,
they put their hand up and away they go. It's
not that hard. It's so stupidly easy to put in place.
And here they come there like on a Sunday, So

(22:49):
that's easy. That's a that's a dead.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
So that vision will have been shown, all various pieces
of vision shown, umpires and get on with us. Yep,
we should keep the bounce, no recalls overreaction just I
don't know, Sam stumped up for the but then once
it goes, it goes.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
You can't have just one bug saying let's still unpire
training and don't forget you've got to start the game.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
So you go that once it's gone, it's gone.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
So I think that's almost unanimous as well. Stephen May
needs our coaches tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Over reaction only in so far as it's all on
Stephen May. This is a case that's the prosecution.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Will be made.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
But I don't think they're trying to nail him to
the wall. Explain what you did in every moment, match
it up with a vision, be honest on foot and
I think there's a way to defend this.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
I think he's being coached, I only to a degree.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
I hope he's able just to watch himself and step
it through every step of the way.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
He does present really well, So it'll be an intriguing
case tomorrow, and I think the whole Footy will just
sitting back and waiting to see how it plays out.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yep, yep, we'll all be the wiser.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
More or another.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Our current day players are about to join us, Travis
Boke and Toby Green. Trav his place in the game
rises with every passing game at the moments, and Toby's
trying to tune his giants up for the title run.
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