September 1, 2025 • 23 mins
Catch up on all the footy news from AFL 360, Monday 1st of September with Gerard Whateley and Garry Lyon.
The huge edition of AFL 360 has the boys chat all things finals with previews of all the four games, the panel also discusses Curnow's position in being open to move while being joined by Sam Mitchell as he talks about the Hawks finals chances.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Springers here finals are almost upon us scas how to
survive the voyage.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Good seed Jed survived it well back the winner at
more for bill rate five.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
That was it for the weekend mode. Some lawns. Give
myself up about you.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
Claire chose the theater.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
I chose the movie, a little bit of culture, the
way sport for a while, and lawns and betting on
the horses. All right, so we settle ourselves for all
that's in the store that the bye weekend is the
source of consternation and debate. The AFL is unapologetic, as
Andrew doing doubled down today.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
What it has is allows the clubs that are in
the A to really set themselves. It allows the clubs
that are in the A to enjoy the fact that
they've made it and then really set themselves for a
big first week of finals. I think what it also
does is does open up the final right to be
a true final eight, so that any team who's made it,
who's got the opportunity, if things go their way, to
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make it edit the last Saturday and September and then
be competitive.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Then the true final eight is an interesting notion. I
think it speaks of an equalized final series. That's not
really how it was manifested, and that's not why this
change was made. This change was made about the integrity
of the final of the home and away season because
teams took liberties at selections, and what it has done
has altered the patterns that have governed the final. It
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has diluted the advantage of the top four that has
hard won over twenty four rounds.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
So that's the actual debate.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
If the competition is happy with that, and premiers have
come from fifth and seventh, it's been a much broader
proposition than it had been historically, and the two teams
who ran most seriously against this have been the Sydney's
Ones and the Brisbane Lines.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
So you would expect over some of the Greg.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Swan and Tom Harley would run some sort of review internally,
have the debate, work out what we want and then
articulate properly why we're doing the.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Buy go will revisit.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
You are no fan, no.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
No, I think what it's done to the patterns of
the final series is troubling. And it's cute that a
team won it from six, and it's great that a
team heroically won.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
From fifth, but that's not the point.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
We play for six months to pick an order and
then we give everyone a breather.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah see, I picked my fights on this because the
six months is are fast anyway.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Yeah, so fixed that as well.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
So I don't want to get up in arms about
the end system when the system that qualifies you is
just totally manipulated from the start anyway, and compromise. So
I'm just going to have to ride this out until
we get to that stage where it's play every one month.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Here.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
There's a futures project in this and I hope we
do get there one day. The fish Shares. The presenters
were announce day today, so Luke Codge, Norm Smith medal presenter,
Adam Simpson, the Jock McHale Medal, Ken Fraser to the
winning Captain, the Ron Brassy Medal, and Jack Revolt's got
the junket.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
We know.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
My first question as John Longmeyer burned the Brazili yet
if he hasn't, and it makes for a very interesting
Wednesday night. This is a good good lineup here, good
lineup of our some of our all time grades.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah, and then once we know the teams, you get
the cup presenters as well.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
It's a arming aspects of the day.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
The weather forecast looks pretty good around the country. Bar Perth,
so sort of be aware of this. Up to twenty
five mills is of the early forecast for Saturday night.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
That's a good drop. This is my portfolio weather, Jared,
I don't know what you're getting in. I've looked at Sydney.
That's where I'm headed. And minor just minor details here.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
All right, this is what we have lined up for you.
Adam Kingsley and Sam Mitchell are shortly going to join us.
As we look towards the elimination final in Sydney, Jack Revolt,
Jordan Lewis, Jonathan Brown and Nathan Buckley on the couch
tomorrow night. The other side of the elimination finals, Justin
Longmuller and Damian Hardwick, Ray Chamberlain. As we look towards
September umpiring and then John Longmire and Adam Simpson can
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fight it out together on Wednesday night.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
We'll have some.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Teams for good lineup as well. All right, let's get
into the top of the agenda. The finals are upon us,
so three sleeps to go. It has been a lopsided season,
but that should lead to a power packed final series
as the good teams are poised to clash.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
I think we've got of chances anyone or chances anyone.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
We're a good position, good position.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Well, we're never over confident.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
I got a feeling Thursday night. It would be quite
an emotional night for a lot of people.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
For a lot of people, you realize how close you
are now. That's why I just know it's a whole
new ball game, the.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Challenges you come up against the best of the best
in finals.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
I think the group's hungry.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
They've been there seven times in a row. They've proven
that they want to be there again this year. I'd
be surprised if either team is over confident in terms
of their system versus the other.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
It's just something about these two teams that really really
challenge each other at their best.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
I'd say there's probably going to be a fair bit.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Of emotion around this Thursday night as well.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
It's will to make for a great contest. We have
a really good rivalry.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Rivalries, real rivalries, not the made up ones. The real
rivalries only come.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Together when you've got two teams who are in contention.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
So it's a privilege to be considered one of them.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Can you win it?
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (05:00):
I think we can, and look at the other eight
teams and be saying the same things. It's small margins
around now, and yeah, well we'll give it our best shot.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Hopefully there's a few more Willies to come this year.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Darcy.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
We're not sneaking into everything that's wet.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Will you fades quite gold?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
All right, that's the starting point on Thursday night the
Crows and Collingwood. So just give us a couple of
minutes onto each game to set the terms for us.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
The time we were sitting here, we were waiting for
we're trying to make a case for I didn't go
well good.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
What you said was exactly right. She was going to
be a big number.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
So this has got recent grudge as part of it.
There's been a set of thrillers that have been contentious
at times, and now it feels a bit combustible as
they read.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
So I did the game mcgler in the year and
they walked away from that and you just had a
feeling that Adelaide was still not quite there. And what
they've done since then has been beyond approach. They've been
the best team in the comp since.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
About that time.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
And the fascinating thing about this is what to it
kind of look like? What does the game itself look like?
Because the game that we watched there three weeks ago
was like unlike many I've ever seen, and we know,
we understand the reasons why, who was to blame, who
was more satisfied, who was more comfortable with it? So
you know, Finals footy changes, Jared, the whole way of
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the game's played changes. So it is whether these three
big tools can continue to have the impact they've had
through the home and away. It's a defense of the
Adelaide Crows that has become the benchmark. And in amongst
the benchmark, they've got these two magnificent defenders in Keenan
Warrel who come up against I think my check and
McStay have been off, so I've identified that it's stillmost
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to turn the tables job there my checkim X Day've
got to be competitive against Keenan Warrel. That's how important
those two have become. And then you go the other end,
can More and Frampton and probably may not handle the
three of them, or will finals footage just dictate again
that bore on ground get to work. So it's it's
it's beautifully poised. It's a great way to start. I
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think they've got it right. And the winner who.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Must have one foot in it.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Maybe the Crows have spent so long building for this moment,
but they are untested at this stage. This is the
Collingwood longsuit is gather, gather, the army, circle the wagons,
get on the road, going to whether the territory make
a stand. There's a couple of generations that have been
doing this, so it plays to their longsuit.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Do I mean everyone, every single one a week convinced,
and this is the week where we just sit here
and wait for.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
The game to start. Because then you just speculate and you're.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Throwing up scenarios and everyone's going to have a theory,
and you know they'll be coach. There is off, they'll
know each other's games inside out, and then it just
comes down to execution on the night or the day
as it might turn out. So this will be a belter.
I'm leaning towards. I think it's real what ad later
been able to do. And I guess I've watched them
a lot and been over to watch them a lot,
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which is not discounting Collingwood's chances. Anyone that says suggests
they know who's winning is braver than me and Collingwood.
If Collingwood prevail, then would go, Yeah, they've been here before.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Friday Night's a couple of heavyweights who have met continuously
in September's. It's just tipping the lines favor in recent times.
It feels that, so this is heavyweight stuff. Does the
Premiership favorite emerge from this game?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Well, no, I'm not going that far, because I mean,
if Adelaide one, you've got to go over there and
play them on their own own ground. So now I
wouldn't go that far. But this is genuine These are
teams who know what it takes. We're at GMHBA and
we watched the Lions take on Geelong up on that
Friday night game and we thought, oh, this will be
testing for and the confidence that just emanated from Brisbane
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before the game, not over confidence, not arrogance, but just
confidence in their ability to play at the level because
I think Gelong would have been red hot favorites and
they donkey lick them yep, And it was Anders did
a big job on Shannonie. I've already had a bit
of a look at this for Friday night and the
way they play Geelong three the last three times they've won. Now,
Chriscott said that the system is not going to surprise anyone,
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but they were brave. Remember that game on Friday Night.
They just picked the eyes out of everything through the
middle of the ground.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
So full warned is forearmed. They'll know what's coming.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Sometimes these smaller Gelong defenders that get up high and
you know they like the transition, They're going to have
to get to work defensively, Jarrett in this game, big
big space at the MC.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
So only the great teams go back to back. This
is the opportunity of the Brisbane have set themselves for
Both of these sides will believe they're better placed than
last year. Brisbane by virtue have been in the top
four and Geelong by the personnel changes that have been made,
having led that preliminary final by four goals or so.
Chris Scott has the two premierships. You sort of feel
like by the time he's finished it will be more
than two. But you've actually got to go in and
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get it done. The bit why I think I do
think the premiership favorite comes from this game is because
we'll trust both Gelong and the Brisbane lines at the MCG.
They're one half of the billing adelaide. That will be
the last step that they have to conquer is to
work their way through. Should they win, they'll be fearsomely
hard to beat in a preliminary final, but then you've
got to come to the MCG. Both of these have
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been there and done that.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
That's fair.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Both teams supporters would be very confident of what they're
capable of doing. And it's going to be an outstanding
Friday Night. And there's some players within both teams that
you just can't wait to see them back on that stage.
And that band Shaton New York going to keep talking
about him. He's going to have a big same things
on Friday Night. One way or the other.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Elimination finals, it's the Giants and Hawthorns, and these are
the two teams to me that there's a path to
forge here. I don't think they're one and done in
this final series. It's stacked for now. They both have
the experience last year they were jilted in semi finals.
They both would feel like they got cut off too soon.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Only one of them.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Gets out of this, but whoever gets out of that
I think is a big threat to pummell their way
out a little bit deeper.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Kingsley and Sam Mitchell join us tonight. We'll put the
questions to them. Health versus Hollywood is how it's build
for me. So they've got some big question marks over
some really big influential players at Giants and just how
big at risks they'll take.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
And we'll put that to Adam when he joins us.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
And then you've got the Hollywood Hawks that would jumping
out their skin trying to get back here.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
They won one final, they got a taste.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
They went down to Kenny's mob in circumstances last week
that last year.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
That wouldn't sit well with them.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
And I think they're in good four Morton as well,
so this would be great. Hogan, Stringer, Buckley, Kelly Daniels
all got question mark.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
So it'd be interesting to see what sort of a.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Mood for risk they're in, all right, and then open
perse you're leaning one way not.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
I admire both of these. It'll take me.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
It'll probably take to a selection to figure it out.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
This time last year, Carlton.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Brought all of their players back and it blew up
spectacularly on them.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
So there is a lot time to walk.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Isn't that they'll make the right call, but it'll be
interesting to get them the mentality, the early win the
week mentality from the coaches.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
And then in the West, Fremantle have been here before.
It was twenty twenty two they won their home elimination
final and then they sort of pulled it half apart
and tried to rebuild it again. And now they're back
and gold Coast get their first look at it there.
It was a lovely piece of symmetry that the Sons
had their biggest ever win at the.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Moment of qualification.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
And this is a man who gives you the confidence
if your Gold Coast Sun supporter.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
It's just how.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Quickly he can impart upon this playing group the needs
of finals footy and what they need to be able
to produce and how they need to play against the
Freemantle side. They might have just unlocked something against the
Western Bulldogs at Marvel Stadium, not unlocked it, because that's unfair.
They had been on a good winning streak, but reinforced
to themselves how to play in a manner that can
carry them beyond this week.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
So I guess the question for me is how.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Happy are the Gold Coast sons with what they've achieved?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
So I know Freemantle wouldn't be because they'ven't lived this.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Before, so they it's just that's' been disrespectful and if
Dimmer was watching, he'd probably bristled up. But you know,
it's human nature. It's the first crack at it. They
played with this unbated freedom. Or do they go, yeah,
we've done a great job. Here we are, We've got
that monkey off our back or is it No? This
is just starting and Damien is the best in the
business to be able to get that message and bang
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it and bang and bang the table and bang the table.
But he won't know until Saturday night when the ball
gets bounced of how successful he's made.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
And for free Mattle is you just have to win
your home final in front of nearly sixty thousand fans.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Don't you.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
You do, and you play aggressive and you're back in
your strengths and c IFA can ride.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
It's a great first week.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Of the final. Yeah, it really is, It really is.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
I'm looking forward to all.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Right, Sam Mitchell and Adam Kingsley are going to join
us shortly. The trade market does spin. Charlie Kerno got
to his exit interview and he said it out loud,
at least to a degree that he was open to
a trade. Michael Voss was on SEM this morning to
voice his view.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Did he ask for a trade in his exit meeting?
Open was more?
Speaker 7 (14:08):
Was more of the language used, and obviously from our
position it was, you know, it was pretty clear.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
So it's we.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
Don't feel like we're certainly in that position to want
to go down that path. That position was well and
truly communicated back to him, you know, and then obviously
from from that point on we sort of moved on
to other topics and sort of talked about his year
and how we can make him better and get back
to that striking form that you had only only twelve
months ago.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Will you answer the phone for offers for Kerno? No?
Speaker 7 (14:38):
No, where Our position is pretty clear, and it was
you know, it's been stated from well, I don't even
know publicly whether I actually said anything, have we but no,
he'll be at Carton in twenty twenty six, and look
those discussions if there's if there's any others will continue
to have behind closed doors. But as I stated, there's
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you know what is your two time colin medalists could
have been three. He's got four years to run on
a contract. You know, we feel like he's an incredibly
important person to us.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Don't even bother calling. It's a great position to start
negotiation from.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I bet they do. I believe Michael broadly. I don't
believe anything. As I stated often and Charlie's exhibit A
kept telling every damn reporter that's stuck in microphone under
his name that he's happy and he don't want to
go anywhere now. He's the die has been cast, so
he's shown it out. He's taken off overseas now and
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he's going to leave it. Good managers to sort out
what about this carnade of Sydney. Chad Warner to fremantle,
Luke Jackson to Carlton.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Is this your Naza's staying moment?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I made this up right, we exactly so you know
what I mean. I was looked at it and thought
I can't see how it had happened. I don't know.
I got no I got no clue about any of this.
It's not my area. But that. You know what happens
if that gets thrown up. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Please free out supporters. Supporters is totally made up. I'm
talking hypotheticals. You know, there's they've said no. Carlton said no, boss,
he said, don't even bother. But what if that came around,
then they go, hang on.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
We might bother. We'll get a bit of thought.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
So I don't.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
It doesn't bother me. It's not my side. I'll be
interested by standard and I'll let those that play in
this space go to it. But not for one second
I think that's dead in the water. Not for one
second I think that is dead in the water.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Does he have the currency for Carlton to demand the
super trade.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
For him because he's because they've got the marketing power,
they've got the contract.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
He's got four more years.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
So yeah, of course, of course they do.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Don't call us four year contract. So if you do
call us, you better come, just come.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Don't be happening with Olli, Floren and first. But if
you have got something, then we'll pick it up.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
This is the other side of the long term deal
for a player, isn't it If things if you waiver
along the way you have signed away so long that
you really you have no capacity to do anything other
than ponder out loud if you're up for it, I'm
up for you.
Speaker 7 (17:11):
No.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
And I don't know the context of what happened with
Charlie Boss he said he said he's open to it.
That might be the gentlest and kindest explanation, but they've
got to know. This is the world we live in.
You put your name to the long term happen, then
that you're to cop that. So you might say I'm
open to it. If it comes back, it doesn't happen.
Every expectation in the football world, from the Carleton CEO
to the number supporter eighty seven thousand, expects him to
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be at training day one pre season working is ours
off as hard as he ever has.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Yep, that's the world we live in.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
J Clark's had a busy day.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
He's got Chris Davey's going as the GM of footage
of the Blues, which would be some sort of coupe.
And he's also reported that so Sam Draper has told
Essendon that he's going to exercise his free agency rights.
It's always had him most likely to land in Brisbane,
but we do know that Adelaide have made a player
along the way to keep themselves viable.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
In the conversation, I can't see why I don't Riley
and Ryan I think has been fantastic for so that
doesn't make any sense at all to me. Adelaide Brisbane does,
so Oscar Mcinernie and Darcy Fort.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Then I think Sam Draper fits. Sam Drake makes them better.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
He's a free agent, yes, so that's that makes it
even more attractive from a Brisbane point of view.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
So yeah, that's another.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Blow the Ridley news as well, that emerged over the weekend.
It's an interesting time for the s and footy club.
So they would rather keep Sam Draper, that's no question
about that. That was put to me earlier today. Of
course I'd rather keep him. But you're free agent, your
free agent.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
So Brisbane of mine the free agency market.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Well, if they end up with both Oscar Allen and
Sam Draper players, you don't have to trade for assets.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
That you add.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
So it's a free swing with Alan to get his
body right because of the circumstances you get him in
and is exactly what they need.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
An academy kid that's coming in.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
To pick three or four, he said for good no
wonder fags can go back to Tazzy all right. The
AFL Awards for Thursday right here on Fox. There's always
moments of contention and debate out of the All Australian team.
Not often are they presented though, in such a manner
regarding the captain. So Jeremy Cameron, who was as mift
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as anyone to be named this year's captain.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
And the captain of the twenty twenty five AFL All
Australian Team is Jeremy Cameron from the Geelong Katz.
Speaker 8 (19:29):
I don't think I've captained anything in my life, mate.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
In fact, I think it was any bloody team in
my life.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
So cast your mind.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Back, because I was looking to see if you'd filled
in at the Giants or the Cats, but you hadn't
and I couldn't see what.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Had happened to dart More etc.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
So have you captained a football team before?
Speaker 8 (19:44):
Honestly, I've never keptain anything. So Dangers asked me a
couple of times to do their pre match speech and
I've knocked him back. So I've had absolutely no practice
at all. It's you know, it's just a privilege. To
sort of be named the captain. No, I'm still trying
to figure out why.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
So this is a mistake. But you're our resident captain.
How does it sit with you?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
It's got participation certificate vibes about it, Jared, And that's
not what the all Australians all about. That's not what
the Australian captaincy should be all about. And I don't
I would think there wouldn't be another ten people in
Australia that would come up with Jeremy Cameron as the
Australian Captain.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
And you know this is not disrespectful to Jeremy.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Jeremy doesn't think he's the Australian Captain and was a
bit sheepish about it all.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
There was genuine there were genuine captains there for the taking.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
And the fact that I want to explain to me,
I haven't heard it. I haven't heard any I want
you know, I've I've got the panel there.
Speaker 9 (20:46):
So Eddie, jew Bolton, Bucks, Cornsey, Abbey Holmes, Laura Kaine,
Glenn Jakovich, pav explain this to me because it makes
no sense at all.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
So it's been used from time to time as a
ceremonial position, and this was the case with Alex Rants
and Lance Franklin. That was probably the moment where they
tried to land it and maybe they got away with
that one. Then it was done again with Tom Hawkins.
Just going back through the records as Andrew McLeod was
the captain one year and Greg William so not absolutely
without precedent. But I think what gets missed here is
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that the All Australian team is critical as a historic
guide what was football in twenty twenty five And I
think for a long time the captain of the All
Australian has.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Been the revered position as who is the game's great leader.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
So again, if you go back, you will find Paul
Kelly multiple times, Wayne Kerry multiple times, Michael Voss multiple times,
Joe Sellward multiple times, Mark Roshudo multiple times. It speaks
of these were the games great leaders. And now we're
using it in a different way. We're saying, well, one's
enough for your CV, and then we'll use it in
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this ceremonial way to honor perennials in the team and
those who have had great careers. So what it won't
tell you now is who was the great leader of
the day, you'll have to go to a different list.
And that's a mistake. It shouldn't have got out. It
shouldn't have been got out of the room once it
was floated. With five club captains on the list, there
should have been saying, hey, this is a no fault,
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this is no will not fly this year.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
And.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
I named the selectors for it. That's your responsibility.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
So has anyone tried to explain this to you in
any way, shape or form.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I've been off the air.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, So we spoke about a little bit with Bucks
and I'm sure they'll ask him on coup. So he's
not a believer in it, but he is part of
the panel that voted, and it was a hairline vote
as to how it got up.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
So I'm absolutely sure that there'd be I he's looking
at that group, there'd be people upon that group that
wouldn't have voted for that. I'll be certain of that.
So it wouldn't have been a unanimous picture. And what
it gets through is beyond and what gets missed.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
So Harris Andrews premiership captain and perennial in the team.
En Dawson has been the season's best leader. Max Gorn
has been the era as great leader. Marcus Bontanpelli has
grown into this position as the game statement, and Noah
Anderson is the emerging captain.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
You can't ignore a group like that.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
You had to choose from there for the historic nature
of how we're going to look back at twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah, and the team, it's fine. And everyone doesn't agree
on the team, that's okay.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I'll never get into the bashing of the selectors over
the team because it's but when it gets to this
sort of thing, I mean, it doesn't make any sense
at all. And it's a sensible group of people that
are assembled to put this together. So I don't know
how they arrived at Yeah, and it's, as I said,
in an era where we're given out certificates for participating
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and it's the captaincy, the Australian captaincy is not that
we
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Should recalibrate that from here,
Springers here finals are almost upon us scas how to
survive the voyage.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Good seed Jed survived it well back the winner at
more for bill rate five.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
That was it for the weekend mode. Some lawns. Give
myself up about you.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
Claire chose the theater.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
I chose the movie, a little bit of culture, the
way sport for a while, and lawns and betting on
the horses. All right, so we settle ourselves for all
that's in the store that the bye weekend is the
source of consternation and debate. The AFL is unapologetic, as
Andrew doing doubled down today.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
What it has is allows the clubs that are in
the A to really set themselves. It allows the clubs
that are in the A to enjoy the fact that
they've made it and then really set themselves for a
big first week of finals. I think what it also
does is does open up the final right to be
a true final eight, so that any team who's made it,
who's got the opportunity, if things go their way, to
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make it edit the last Saturday and September and then
be competitive.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Then the true final eight is an interesting notion. I
think it speaks of an equalized final series. That's not
really how it was manifested, and that's not why this
change was made. This change was made about the integrity
of the final of the home and away season because
teams took liberties at selections, and what it has done
has altered the patterns that have governed the final. It
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has diluted the advantage of the top four that has
hard won over twenty four rounds.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
So that's the actual debate.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
If the competition is happy with that, and premiers have
come from fifth and seventh, it's been a much broader
proposition than it had been historically, and the two teams
who ran most seriously against this have been the Sydney's
Ones and the Brisbane Lines.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
So you would expect over some of the Greg.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Swan and Tom Harley would run some sort of review internally,
have the debate, work out what we want and then
articulate properly why we're doing the.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Buy go will revisit.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
You are no fan, no.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
No, I think what it's done to the patterns of
the final series is troubling. And it's cute that a
team won it from six, and it's great that a
team heroically won.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
From fifth, but that's not the point.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
We play for six months to pick an order and
then we give everyone a breather.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah see, I picked my fights on this because the
six months is are fast anyway.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Yeah, so fixed that as well.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
So I don't want to get up in arms about
the end system when the system that qualifies you is
just totally manipulated from the start anyway, and compromise. So
I'm just going to have to ride this out until
we get to that stage where it's play every one month.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Here.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
There's a futures project in this and I hope we
do get there one day. The fish Shares. The presenters
were announce day today, so Luke Codge, Norm Smith medal presenter,
Adam Simpson, the Jock McHale Medal, Ken Fraser to the
winning Captain, the Ron Brassy Medal, and Jack Revolt's got
the junket.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
We know.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
My first question as John Longmeyer burned the Brazili yet
if he hasn't, and it makes for a very interesting
Wednesday night. This is a good good lineup here, good
lineup of our some of our all time grades.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah, and then once we know the teams, you get
the cup presenters as well.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
It's a arming aspects of the day.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
The weather forecast looks pretty good around the country. Bar Perth,
so sort of be aware of this. Up to twenty
five mills is of the early forecast for Saturday night.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
That's a good drop. This is my portfolio weather, Jared,
I don't know what you're getting in. I've looked at Sydney.
That's where I'm headed. And minor just minor details here.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
All right, this is what we have lined up for you.
Adam Kingsley and Sam Mitchell are shortly going to join us.
As we look towards the elimination final in Sydney, Jack Revolt,
Jordan Lewis, Jonathan Brown and Nathan Buckley on the couch
tomorrow night. The other side of the elimination finals, Justin
Longmuller and Damian Hardwick, Ray Chamberlain. As we look towards
September umpiring and then John Longmire and Adam Simpson can
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fight it out together on Wednesday night.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
We'll have some.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Teams for good lineup as well. All right, let's get
into the top of the agenda. The finals are upon us,
so three sleeps to go. It has been a lopsided season,
but that should lead to a power packed final series
as the good teams are poised to clash.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
I think we've got of chances anyone or chances anyone.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
We're a good position, good position.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Well, we're never over confident.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
I got a feeling Thursday night. It would be quite
an emotional night for a lot of people.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
For a lot of people, you realize how close you
are now. That's why I just know it's a whole
new ball game, the.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Challenges you come up against the best of the best
in finals.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
I think the group's hungry.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
They've been there seven times in a row. They've proven
that they want to be there again this year. I'd
be surprised if either team is over confident in terms
of their system versus the other.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
It's just something about these two teams that really really
challenge each other at their best.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
I'd say there's probably going to be a fair bit.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Of emotion around this Thursday night as well.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
It's will to make for a great contest. We have
a really good rivalry.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Rivalries, real rivalries, not the made up ones. The real
rivalries only come.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Together when you've got two teams who are in contention.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
So it's a privilege to be considered one of them.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Can you win it?
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (05:00):
I think we can, and look at the other eight
teams and be saying the same things. It's small margins
around now, and yeah, well we'll give it our best shot.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Hopefully there's a few more Willies to come this year.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Darcy.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
We're not sneaking into everything that's wet.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Will you fades quite gold?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
All right, that's the starting point on Thursday night the
Crows and Collingwood. So just give us a couple of
minutes onto each game to set the terms for us.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
The time we were sitting here, we were waiting for
we're trying to make a case for I didn't go
well good.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
What you said was exactly right. She was going to
be a big number.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
So this has got recent grudge as part of it.
There's been a set of thrillers that have been contentious
at times, and now it feels a bit combustible as
they read.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
So I did the game mcgler in the year and
they walked away from that and you just had a
feeling that Adelaide was still not quite there. And what
they've done since then has been beyond approach. They've been
the best team in the comp since.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
About that time.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
And the fascinating thing about this is what to it
kind of look like? What does the game itself look like?
Because the game that we watched there three weeks ago
was like unlike many I've ever seen, and we know,
we understand the reasons why, who was to blame, who
was more satisfied, who was more comfortable with it? So
you know, Finals footy changes, Jared, the whole way of
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the game's played changes. So it is whether these three
big tools can continue to have the impact they've had
through the home and away. It's a defense of the
Adelaide Crows that has become the benchmark. And in amongst
the benchmark, they've got these two magnificent defenders in Keenan
Warrel who come up against I think my check and
McStay have been off, so I've identified that it's stillmost
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to turn the tables job there my checkim X Day've
got to be competitive against Keenan Warrel. That's how important
those two have become. And then you go the other end,
can More and Frampton and probably may not handle the
three of them, or will finals footage just dictate again
that bore on ground get to work. So it's it's
it's beautifully poised. It's a great way to start. I
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think they've got it right. And the winner who.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Must have one foot in it.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Maybe the Crows have spent so long building for this moment,
but they are untested at this stage. This is the
Collingwood longsuit is gather, gather, the army, circle the wagons,
get on the road, going to whether the territory make
a stand. There's a couple of generations that have been
doing this, so it plays to their longsuit.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Do I mean everyone, every single one a week convinced,
and this is the week where we just sit here
and wait for.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
The game to start. Because then you just speculate and you're.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Throwing up scenarios and everyone's going to have a theory,
and you know they'll be coach. There is off, they'll
know each other's games inside out, and then it just
comes down to execution on the night or the day
as it might turn out. So this will be a belter.
I'm leaning towards. I think it's real what ad later
been able to do. And I guess I've watched them
a lot and been over to watch them a lot,
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which is not discounting Collingwood's chances. Anyone that says suggests
they know who's winning is braver than me and Collingwood.
If Collingwood prevail, then would go, Yeah, they've been here before.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Friday Night's a couple of heavyweights who have met continuously
in September's. It's just tipping the lines favor in recent times.
It feels that, so this is heavyweight stuff. Does the
Premiership favorite emerge from this game?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Well, no, I'm not going that far, because I mean,
if Adelaide one, you've got to go over there and
play them on their own own ground. So now I
wouldn't go that far. But this is genuine These are
teams who know what it takes. We're at GMHBA and
we watched the Lions take on Geelong up on that
Friday night game and we thought, oh, this will be
testing for and the confidence that just emanated from Brisbane
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before the game, not over confidence, not arrogance, but just
confidence in their ability to play at the level because
I think Gelong would have been red hot favorites and
they donkey lick them yep, And it was Anders did
a big job on Shannonie. I've already had a bit
of a look at this for Friday night and the
way they play Geelong three the last three times they've won. Now,
Chriscott said that the system is not going to surprise anyone,
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but they were brave. Remember that game on Friday Night.
They just picked the eyes out of everything through the
middle of the ground.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
So full warned is forearmed. They'll know what's coming.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Sometimes these smaller Gelong defenders that get up high and
you know they like the transition, They're going to have
to get to work defensively, Jarrett in this game, big
big space at the MC.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
So only the great teams go back to back. This
is the opportunity of the Brisbane have set themselves for
Both of these sides will believe they're better placed than
last year. Brisbane by virtue have been in the top
four and Geelong by the personnel changes that have been made,
having led that preliminary final by four goals or so.
Chris Scott has the two premierships. You sort of feel
like by the time he's finished it will be more
than two. But you've actually got to go in and
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get it done. The bit why I think I do
think the premiership favorite comes from this game is because
we'll trust both Gelong and the Brisbane lines at the MCG.
They're one half of the billing adelaide. That will be
the last step that they have to conquer is to
work their way through. Should they win, they'll be fearsomely
hard to beat in a preliminary final, but then you've
got to come to the MCG. Both of these have
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been there and done that.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
That's fair.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Both teams supporters would be very confident of what they're
capable of doing. And it's going to be an outstanding
Friday Night. And there's some players within both teams that
you just can't wait to see them back on that stage.
And that band Shaton New York going to keep talking
about him. He's going to have a big same things
on Friday Night. One way or the other.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Elimination finals, it's the Giants and Hawthorns, and these are
the two teams to me that there's a path to
forge here. I don't think they're one and done in
this final series. It's stacked for now. They both have
the experience last year they were jilted in semi finals.
They both would feel like they got cut off too soon.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Only one of them.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Gets out of this, but whoever gets out of that
I think is a big threat to pummell their way
out a little bit deeper.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Kingsley and Sam Mitchell join us tonight. We'll put the
questions to them. Health versus Hollywood is how it's build
for me. So they've got some big question marks over
some really big influential players at Giants and just how
big at risks they'll take.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
And we'll put that to Adam when he joins us.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
And then you've got the Hollywood Hawks that would jumping
out their skin trying to get back here.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
They won one final, they got a taste.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
They went down to Kenny's mob in circumstances last week
that last year.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
That wouldn't sit well with them.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
And I think they're in good four Morton as well,
so this would be great. Hogan, Stringer, Buckley, Kelly Daniels
all got question mark.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
So it'd be interesting to see what sort of a.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Mood for risk they're in, all right, and then open
perse you're leaning one way not.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
I admire both of these. It'll take me.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
It'll probably take to a selection to figure it out.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
This time last year, Carlton.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Brought all of their players back and it blew up
spectacularly on them.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
So there is a lot time to walk.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Isn't that they'll make the right call, but it'll be
interesting to get them the mentality, the early win the
week mentality from the coaches.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
And then in the West, Fremantle have been here before.
It was twenty twenty two they won their home elimination
final and then they sort of pulled it half apart
and tried to rebuild it again. And now they're back
and gold Coast get their first look at it there.
It was a lovely piece of symmetry that the Sons
had their biggest ever win at the.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Moment of qualification.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
And this is a man who gives you the confidence
if your Gold Coast Sun supporter.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
It's just how.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Quickly he can impart upon this playing group the needs
of finals footy and what they need to be able
to produce and how they need to play against the
Freemantle side. They might have just unlocked something against the
Western Bulldogs at Marvel Stadium, not unlocked it, because that's unfair.
They had been on a good winning streak, but reinforced
to themselves how to play in a manner that can
carry them beyond this week.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
So I guess the question for me is how.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Happy are the Gold Coast sons with what they've achieved?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
So I know Freemantle wouldn't be because they'ven't lived this.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Before, so they it's just that's' been disrespectful and if
Dimmer was watching, he'd probably bristled up. But you know,
it's human nature. It's the first crack at it. They
played with this unbated freedom. Or do they go, yeah,
we've done a great job. Here we are, We've got
that monkey off our back or is it No? This
is just starting and Damien is the best in the
business to be able to get that message and bang
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it and bang and bang the table and bang the table.
But he won't know until Saturday night when the ball
gets bounced of how successful he's made.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
And for free Mattle is you just have to win
your home final in front of nearly sixty thousand fans.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Don't you.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
You do, and you play aggressive and you're back in
your strengths and c IFA can ride.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
It's a great first week.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Of the final. Yeah, it really is, It really is.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
I'm looking forward to all.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Right, Sam Mitchell and Adam Kingsley are going to join
us shortly. The trade market does spin. Charlie Kerno got
to his exit interview and he said it out loud,
at least to a degree that he was open to
a trade. Michael Voss was on SEM this morning to
voice his view.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Did he ask for a trade in his exit meeting?
Open was more?
Speaker 7 (14:08):
Was more of the language used, and obviously from our
position it was, you know, it was pretty clear.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
So it's we.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
Don't feel like we're certainly in that position to want
to go down that path. That position was well and
truly communicated back to him, you know, and then obviously
from from that point on we sort of moved on
to other topics and sort of talked about his year
and how we can make him better and get back
to that striking form that you had only only twelve
months ago.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Will you answer the phone for offers for Kerno? No?
Speaker 7 (14:38):
No, where Our position is pretty clear, and it was
you know, it's been stated from well, I don't even
know publicly whether I actually said anything, have we but no,
he'll be at Carton in twenty twenty six, and look
those discussions if there's if there's any others will continue
to have behind closed doors. But as I stated, there's
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you know what is your two time colin medalists could
have been three. He's got four years to run on
a contract. You know, we feel like he's an incredibly
important person to us.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Don't even bother calling. It's a great position to start
negotiation from.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I bet they do. I believe Michael broadly. I don't
believe anything. As I stated often and Charlie's exhibit A
kept telling every damn reporter that's stuck in microphone under
his name that he's happy and he don't want to
go anywhere now. He's the die has been cast, so
he's shown it out. He's taken off overseas now and
(15:35):
he's going to leave it. Good managers to sort out
what about this carnade of Sydney. Chad Warner to fremantle,
Luke Jackson to Carlton.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Is this your Naza's staying moment?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I made this up right, we exactly so you know
what I mean. I was looked at it and thought
I can't see how it had happened. I don't know.
I got no I got no clue about any of this.
It's not my area. But that. You know what happens
if that gets thrown up. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Please free out supporters. Supporters is totally made up. I'm
talking hypotheticals. You know, there's they've said no. Carlton said no, boss,
he said, don't even bother. But what if that came around,
then they go, hang on.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
We might bother. We'll get a bit of thought.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
So I don't.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
It doesn't bother me. It's not my side. I'll be
interested by standard and I'll let those that play in
this space go to it. But not for one second
I think that's dead in the water. Not for one
second I think that is dead in the water.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Does he have the currency for Carlton to demand the
super trade.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
For him because he's because they've got the marketing power,
they've got the contract.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
He's got four more years.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
So yeah, of course, of course they do.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Don't call us four year contract. So if you do
call us, you better come, just come.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Don't be happening with Olli, Floren and first. But if
you have got something, then we'll pick it up.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
This is the other side of the long term deal
for a player, isn't it If things if you waiver
along the way you have signed away so long that
you really you have no capacity to do anything other
than ponder out loud if you're up for it, I'm
up for you.
Speaker 7 (17:11):
No.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
And I don't know the context of what happened with
Charlie Boss he said he said he's open to it.
That might be the gentlest and kindest explanation, but they've
got to know. This is the world we live in.
You put your name to the long term happen, then
that you're to cop that. So you might say I'm
open to it. If it comes back, it doesn't happen.
Every expectation in the football world, from the Carleton CEO
to the number supporter eighty seven thousand, expects him to
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be at training day one pre season working is ours
off as hard as he ever has.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Yep, that's the world we live in.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
J Clark's had a busy day.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
He's got Chris Davey's going as the GM of footage
of the Blues, which would be some sort of coupe.
And he's also reported that so Sam Draper has told
Essendon that he's going to exercise his free agency rights.
It's always had him most likely to land in Brisbane,
but we do know that Adelaide have made a player
along the way to keep themselves viable.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
In the conversation, I can't see why I don't Riley
and Ryan I think has been fantastic for so that
doesn't make any sense at all to me. Adelaide Brisbane does,
so Oscar Mcinernie and Darcy Fort.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Then I think Sam Draper fits. Sam Drake makes them better.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
He's a free agent, yes, so that's that makes it
even more attractive from a Brisbane point of view.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
So yeah, that's another.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Blow the Ridley news as well, that emerged over the weekend.
It's an interesting time for the s and footy club.
So they would rather keep Sam Draper, that's no question
about that. That was put to me earlier today. Of
course I'd rather keep him. But you're free agent, your
free agent.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
So Brisbane of mine the free agency market.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Well, if they end up with both Oscar Allen and
Sam Draper players, you don't have to trade for assets.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
That you add.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
So it's a free swing with Alan to get his
body right because of the circumstances you get him in
and is exactly what they need.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
An academy kid that's coming in.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
To pick three or four, he said for good no
wonder fags can go back to Tazzy all right. The
AFL Awards for Thursday right here on Fox. There's always
moments of contention and debate out of the All Australian team.
Not often are they presented though, in such a manner
regarding the captain. So Jeremy Cameron, who was as mift
(19:12):
as anyone to be named this year's captain.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
And the captain of the twenty twenty five AFL All
Australian Team is Jeremy Cameron from the Geelong Katz.
Speaker 8 (19:29):
I don't think I've captained anything in my life, mate.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
In fact, I think it was any bloody team in
my life.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
So cast your mind.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Back, because I was looking to see if you'd filled
in at the Giants or the Cats, but you hadn't
and I couldn't see what.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Had happened to dart More etc.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
So have you captained a football team before?
Speaker 8 (19:44):
Honestly, I've never keptain anything. So Dangers asked me a
couple of times to do their pre match speech and
I've knocked him back. So I've had absolutely no practice
at all. It's you know, it's just a privilege. To
sort of be named the captain. No, I'm still trying
to figure out why.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
So this is a mistake. But you're our resident captain.
How does it sit with you?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
It's got participation certificate vibes about it, Jared, And that's
not what the all Australians all about. That's not what
the Australian captaincy should be all about. And I don't
I would think there wouldn't be another ten people in
Australia that would come up with Jeremy Cameron as the
Australian Captain.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
And you know this is not disrespectful to Jeremy.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Jeremy doesn't think he's the Australian Captain and was a
bit sheepish about it all.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
There was genuine there were genuine captains there for the taking.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
And the fact that I want to explain to me,
I haven't heard it. I haven't heard any I want
you know, I've I've got the panel there.
Speaker 9 (20:46):
So Eddie, jew Bolton, Bucks, Cornsey, Abbey Holmes, Laura Kaine,
Glenn Jakovich, pav explain this to me because it makes
no sense at all.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
So it's been used from time to time as a
ceremonial position, and this was the case with Alex Rants
and Lance Franklin. That was probably the moment where they
tried to land it and maybe they got away with
that one. Then it was done again with Tom Hawkins.
Just going back through the records as Andrew McLeod was
the captain one year and Greg William so not absolutely
without precedent. But I think what gets missed here is
(21:20):
that the All Australian team is critical as a historic
guide what was football in twenty twenty five And I
think for a long time the captain of the All
Australian has.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Been the revered position as who is the game's great leader.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
So again, if you go back, you will find Paul
Kelly multiple times, Wayne Kerry multiple times, Michael Voss multiple times,
Joe Sellward multiple times, Mark Roshudo multiple times. It speaks
of these were the games great leaders. And now we're
using it in a different way. We're saying, well, one's
enough for your CV, and then we'll use it in
(21:55):
this ceremonial way to honor perennials in the team and
those who have had great careers. So what it won't
tell you now is who was the great leader of
the day, you'll have to go to a different list.
And that's a mistake. It shouldn't have got out. It
shouldn't have been got out of the room once it
was floated. With five club captains on the list, there
should have been saying, hey, this is a no fault,
(22:15):
this is no will not fly this year.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
And.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
I named the selectors for it. That's your responsibility.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
So has anyone tried to explain this to you in
any way, shape or form.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I've been off the air.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, So we spoke about a little bit with Bucks
and I'm sure they'll ask him on coup. So he's
not a believer in it, but he is part of
the panel that voted, and it was a hairline vote
as to how it got up.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
So I'm absolutely sure that there'd be I he's looking
at that group, there'd be people upon that group that
wouldn't have voted for that. I'll be certain of that.
So it wouldn't have been a unanimous picture. And what
it gets through is beyond and what gets missed.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
So Harris Andrews premiership captain and perennial in the team.
En Dawson has been the season's best leader. Max Gorn
has been the era as great leader. Marcus Bontanpelli has
grown into this position as the game statement, and Noah
Anderson is the emerging captain.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
You can't ignore a group like that.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
You had to choose from there for the historic nature
of how we're going to look back at twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah, and the team, it's fine. And everyone doesn't agree
on the team, that's okay.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I'll never get into the bashing of the selectors over
the team because it's but when it gets to this
sort of thing, I mean, it doesn't make any sense
at all. And it's a sensible group of people that
are assembled to put this together. So I don't know
how they arrived at Yeah, and it's, as I said,
in an era where we're given out certificates for participating
(23:46):
and it's the captaincy, the Australian captaincy is not that
we
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Should recalibrate that from here,
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