August 13, 2025 • 22 mins
Catch up on all the footy news from AFL 360, Wednesday the 13th of August with Gerard Whateley and Garry Lyon.
The boys are joined Simon Goodwin at the desk talking through his recent departure from the Demons, while also discussing saving the Pies' season and the return of the AFLW and its importance in season 10.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Well, you have to ask yourself, gaz is are you
ready for the eighteen game challenge.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
We are on the eve of AFLW.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
We are on the cuffs of a penultimate round of
the men.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
There's a lot of foody to take it, and you
had the prize to double.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I'm just concentrating on Friday night over in Perth and
then back to Adelaide's Saturday Night which game is bigger?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Quickly?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Freemantle take on Brisbane for their life, both of them.
Adelaide take on Collingwood for their lives.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I think it's Adelaide Collingwood by a whisker.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
That's your Victorian parochial isn't coming in there.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I'm going to stay and do detention with Ross. I
hold they can warm you up. And then all eyes
kill to Perth for a.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Big All right, here's what we have lined up for
it Tonight. Simon Goodwin is about to join us. Semo
and Horse have been deep at work and what has
been and what's still to come, And then m Moore
and Laura Kine will preview the AFLW season, the questions
that sit over season ten and the opportunity that lies within,
and then for Crack preview, Ben Dixon, David King and
(01:03):
le Mon Tanya to go deep on round twenty three
the Wednesday d day for Ossie Broadbound. And you don't
have to be too creative here.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
No, I'm turning my eyes to Fremantle and this time
last well actually two weeks earlier. This time last year,
they were sitting in third position on the AFL Ladder
with four weeks ago, Jared third on the ladder, the
Freemantle Footy Club steering down. Possibly one of the great
seasons they went third, they went sixth, sixth.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Ninth, tenth season.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Over a year later they are fourth on the ladder
with two weeks to go. They don't want to go
out like that again, Jared. And they've got the reigning
Premier who are playing for their life arriving on their doorstep.
Can't remember a bigger time for the Freemantle Footy Club.
And right now and I know Brisbane Chris Fagan began
bag know about us, but you know the last two
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premiers haven't made the finals. The precedent for that, you
know Fagus would hate it. But we could say Jesus
is getting hard to defend. There's no precon for getting
bundled out again. So Freemantle for me, and then you've
already shown your hand.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
You're going to link up with patterns in y.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Hada is going to call it and that is going
to be one of the biggest nights in West Australian footy.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
There really is. Here are the two coaches for Friday
night in Perth. They're forming.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
The road has been really strong this year. You know.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
The game's much like us, built on contest and stoppage
and it's going to be a good head head battle.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
But one looking forward to it's.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
An extraordinary I think there will never been a year
in AFL footy with fourteen wins in the draw which
we've got at the moment doesn't get you into the finals.
That was what we had last year and finished fifth.
So it's a it's it's it's unusual, but that's just
the way it is.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Gone.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Early read themselves, read the rundown. You're heading for Adelaide. Yeah,
so Adelaide for me.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
So this game is largely being framed around Collingwoods, but
think about Adelaide. This is the chance to stitch up
the minor premiership and to do it is to take
down their bogie team. They have lost ten in a
row against Collingwood and the past five all come with
all sorts of incident and accident, five points, one point,
two points, four points, ten points, the gnashing of teeth
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every time. And then it's also to take this away
from Collingwood. They have won ten in a row at
Adelaide Oval. That's our rageous that are visiting team on
your home ground against a myriad of opponent has won
ten games there. So knock them over, reclaim your fortress,
plant your flag as the minor premier, take the last
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bogie away and get on with winning the flag.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
That's what's at stake for Adelaide.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I did this game at the MCG and you walked away,
go and Adelaidea just off. They're not there, they're not
at that level. And now here we are ten or
four weeks later and they're playing for all the chips
on top of the ladder.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
So you'll be with Jason Mark Roshudo or the full team.
Jack Revolt's got a hand in there because Super Saturday
will be going as well.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Here's Matthew Knicks today. They keep getting bigger, but yeah,
this is huge. This is a team that's I know
you'll go there.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
They've had the wood on us and the reason for
that they're a very good side Collingwood.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
They do it to a lot of sides.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
If it's a close game, they find a way and
that's why they've been sitting up.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
The top and highly respective for so long. They've beaten
us the last ten times. What a setup that is
for the round their heads.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
All right, our agenda begins with Simon Goodwin. We have
shared the journey of the senior coach right throughout the
season and as the circumstances of twenty twenty five dictate,
we will live it right to the ends.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
After his sacking last week.
Speaker 7 (04:44):
Bert Chadwick, Frank Checker, Hughes, Norm Smith and Simon Goodwin
are the four men that have delivered a premiership to
the oldest football club in this game.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
That puts him rare out.
Speaker 7 (04:56):
He's a hero of this football club and we'll be
forever Today.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Many people's never thought this day would come.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
This is possibly the best seven eight minutes in the
club's history.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
It's a gram new flag, Lily. The club are taking
a different approach. As I said, I totally respect that decision.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
I've been fortunate to coach this club for nine years.
I work with some wonderful players, some wonderful people. It's
been a great journey, something that I certainly don't take lightly.
I love coaching these players.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
They've given their all for this football club.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
And that's something old Truish forever.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Simon Goodwin's time at Melbourne came to a close eight
days ago.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Simon, thanks for being here on three sixty.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Welcome Edmund Jared Evening Gas good to be on.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
What gammut of emotion have you gone through over the
past week or so?
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I was a real roller coaster, clearly, obviously.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
You go through the disappointment and the emotional letdown, you know,
sharing the emotions with your family and friends, and then
you go into what's next. You go from a day
where you thinking about a hundred different decisions and hundred
different things you've got to do to waking up and
nothing and walking the dog three times a day. So
life changes pretty quickly and you move forward pretty quickly.
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And I've been blowing away with the messages of support
and love and thanks and you know, I'm looking forward
to the next opportunity.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Those in your professions say that this is part of
it and your day will come at How confronting was
it when your night came?
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Yeah, look, it's clearly confronting. You know.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
You go into this role and into this career and
knowing that at some stage it's not going to end
on your terms. And as I said, I'm so fortunate
ten years in to coach a great footy club at
Melbourne and the oldest footy club in the land to
have ten years and you know your day's coming. But
you know, like everything, it's confronting. When it happens, it's emotional.
You put so much into it, You invest so much
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into it, your faunily does and at the time it's
you know, it's incredibly confronting.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
I suspect most coaches getting inkling somewhere along the way.
This one appeared to come out well for me anyway
on the outside. But what about you when you've got
a call from Brad Green on that night?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Was it?
Speaker 3 (07:19):
You know, something a foot But give us a level
of your understanding of what happened that day and how
much of a shock it was.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
To Yeah, look it was.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
It was a shock, There's no doubt about that. You know,
I was disappointed that that they'd come to that decision.
But you know, you accept that decision, but clearly you
know you've invested so much, and you know you're always
vulnerable as a senior coach, And obviously with outcome we
had only won seven games for the season. If you
look in behind some of just the outcome of the
seven wins, there's things in our game that are heading
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in the right direction. And that's why I'm quite bullish
about where the group's out on the opportunity that's presented
in front of them, especially for the next coach.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
So it's confronting and it is a little bit vulnerable.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
We'll get to whole up. But is that it's sort
of an indication though, shouldn't you be a little aware,
like if your communication with the people who make this
decision is where it should be, that it shouldn't be
such a big shock or is that a naive approach
from someone I don't know anything about it?
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (08:15):
I think you know, as I said, the board have
got their process and it would be really wrong for
me to sit here and speak on behalf of the
board and the process that they undertook, you know, would
I love to have sat there and gone through what
I thought was going to be the process moving forward
and the strategy needed, you know, really go after the
job that I really wanted.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Yeah, I would have loved to it.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
Do one hundred percent think that I was the right
person to carry this team for it. Yeah, I do,
because I've done it before and build this next Premiership
team that I feel is well on its way to doing.
But you know, that's the decision the board made, and
I accept that decision that they need a new voice,
and they want a new voice and they're going to
get one.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
So you would have liked the chance to fight for
your job.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Absolutely, I would have.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
You know, I had a standard board meeting the week
before and didn't have an inkling at that point. But
as I said, I'm sure the board went through a
thorough process. Don't speak on behalf of the board. All
I can speak on is what I would have loved
to have done, and I would have loved to got
that opportunity.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
It's a tough decision to make for Brad Green, who's
a football person, But can you give us an insight
into his and their decision, the reasoning, Like he sat
next to you and said, oh, we need a fresh voice,
and I understand, probably out of respect he can't be
as forthcoming, but there must have been more than that.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
No, that was that was the reason I got, was
that they needed a fresh voice, and they needed a
new voice and a new you know, someone new to
take them forward. And as I said, I accept that decision.
I don't need to seek anymore. I'm sure they went
through a bit of a deeper process of what that
looked like.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
But you know, a fresh voice, I mean there must
be greater nuance to it than that.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Look, obviously, as I said, that's, you know, disappointed. I
can't speak on behalf of the board. And I know
people pressed me about you know what what what is?
You know what was the board thing? I can't speak
on behalf of them. I love my time coaching the
Melbourne Footy Club. I love the players. I love the
position that we're starting to build towards again. Am I
disappointed that I'm not going to be a part of it?
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Absolutely?
Speaker 6 (10:02):
Am.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Did you think being a premiership coach would have afforded
you a little more loyalty with a contract still to
run for next year?
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Look, I think what being a premiership coach does is
that it gives great indication that you're capable of doing
the job and capable of building them back to where
where you think they are. And as I said, we
live in an outcome based sport, so I understand that,
you know, the seven wins of the season isn't It
isn't where we want it to be right now. But
if you look deeper in behind, you know some of
the things that would be we're transitioning towards success. There's
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a lot of good things that are in behind that,
and that's the disappointing part.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Did you coach for the future?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Did you coach on the journey figuring you had twenty
twenty six?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Absolutely. You know, no matter how long I've got on
a contract, I'll always.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Be coaching to build a premiership team because that's what
it's about. It's not about just coaching for the now
and getting to a final or winning eleven or twelve games.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
It's about building.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
And you know, we've got some wonderful young young kids
that were coming through that I wanted to play, that
I knew that were really important to building this next
premiership team. And I wouldn't change anything of that, I'd
always coach that way.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
It's about the team, it's about the footy club. It's
not about me.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
You coached without a without the next president there was
a president in player. You coach without the next chief
executive who had been appointed and wasn't there.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Did it lead to a lack of alignment?
Speaker 5 (11:22):
I think clearly, clearly you need alignment for success. And
I think if you look around the great sporting organizations
around the world, in business, in sport, alignment's critical and
and it's incrediable because it builds trust and you can
make some really great decisions that you need to moving forward.
And you know, I can only speak about my early
days at Melbourne. You know, Peter Jackson was wonderful in
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setting that environment up to build that stability to have
six years of making wonderful decisions for the footy club
which are able to build the foundations for the success
that was needed. So I think any coach, if you
read any book of any successful coach, the biggest thing
they talk about his stability in alignment.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Is it a fractured football club.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Inasmuch as the things Jared pointed to the interim CEO
of the president that's they're but about to hand over physically,
you're at the MCG, you're at Amy Park, you're at Casey.
Does that add up to a fractured football club?
Speaker 4 (12:22):
No, I think I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
I think there's certainly been challenges that shit within that
and there's things that you all football clubs need to
work on.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Melbourne's no different. But if you walk through the.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Doors training at Casey Fields with those players, the environment's healthy,
the environment's.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Alive and well.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
They're committed as ever to getting better and that's the
biggest part of your program to get right.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
And they're in a really good space.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
So what would in your mind when Melbourne support to
say we run that flag in twenty two anyone that
beautifully place the listers where it's at. What in your
mind has led to not having greater success than you
would would like and got to the point now where
you're no longer Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
As I said, one one of the things I'm most
proud of, which I spoke about in my press conference
last week, was our ability to back up twenty two
and twenty three and put ourselves in top four positions
to give ourselves a chance to win another premiership. That's
difficult in the modern game, and you look in recent times,
there's not too many teams have only made finals finishing
the top four to give themselves opportunities. So we weren't
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able to maximize those opportunities as well as we could
to win that next premiership.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
But it is something I'm really proud of. You know.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
I listened to a podcast yesterday and it was Pete
Carroll Las Vegas Raiders, and he was talking about you
got to ask.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
The question, is it tougher to build a premiership program
or maintain a premiership program?
Speaker 5 (13:41):
And they're two very different things, and there's no doubt
that they've both got different challenges. But maintaining it's really
different because you really dig into the purpose. The intrinsic
motivations are really tested to their core because you climbed
the mountain and can you do it over and over
and over again?
Speaker 4 (13:59):
And that tests every one?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Did they become an issue for the group because there
were some disciplinary issues which have been well documented. Did
they handle the success well and were you're hard.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Enough on them?
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Clearly?
Speaker 5 (14:11):
You know, you get tested in your purpose and we
would have done things a little bit differently through that
period to really make sure we had some unforeseen challenges.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
I was tough on the group. You know.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
I drove a pretty hard program through, especially post the
twenty one Grand Final. I drove an incredibly hard program
because I knew that getting back to that top of
the mountain is tough and you need to really push
and drive. And we had some challenges that were un
for seen. You know, we could have done things a
little bit better. But you know, the last few years
has been about pivoting and transitioning to what the next
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team is going to look like.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Did the club spend too much energy fighting the fights
on too many fronts, a lot of it of its
own making, from the board to the player group, in
a period where you needed to channel all your energy
towards winning another flag.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
Yeah, that's the question you'd have to ask, you know
that the powers to be, you know, about the energy
that was given to that. My energy was really about
what to give to the team.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
You know.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
I'm a coach of the Melbourne football team, you know,
and I wanted to make sure I could block out
the noise and give them the best opportunity for success.
And that's my job, and that's the way I went
about my business.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Has the board got a good handle on where this
club's at right now?
Speaker 4 (15:19):
You'd have to have to ask them, and you'd have
to ask them. You want me to talk? No, No, no's
the question you have to ask. You've got Greenie' number,
give him a call. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
But he's spoken about the fact that he thinks there finals.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yeah, he felt you should have been playing finals this year.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yes, which you've spoken about the fact that he is
a club in transition. So that's the odds with where
they're at. So your capacity to convince them is not
to the point where obviously you'd like it.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Yeah. I talk about this all the time.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
I think at the start of every season there's probably
fourteen or fifteen teams that have a want and a
desire to play finals. There's no question about that. I
don't like the word expectations. I've got a view that
you are looking to build your next premiership team. You know,
I want to be someone that builds premiership teams and
just getting to the finals isn't the outcome you're looking for.
And there's a lot of things that go into that,
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and sometimes you know, seven wins compared to twelve wins.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
There isn't much in it.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
But what you want to make sure you're seeing is
the transition to what you're trying to become.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
And that's where you think they're at right now. So
if a coach comes along and says, where have you
left this club at? The playing list is transitional. So
where's that Petrarca, where's that leave?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Oliver?
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Where's that leave? May in particular in terms of are
they going to.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Be part of this next Yeah, I think But for
the next coach, I think it's set up incredibly well.
I'd be incredibly excited by the group that they've got
available to them. The talent's coming through and you know,
their decisions that I don't have to make anymore.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
So you made decisions around what you were going to
do with that senior corps. Had you contemplated breaking that
up at the end of this.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Season, That's something, as I said, that's something that would
stick stay between myself and the board and everyone you
know at the football club. That's not for me need
to make those decisions or speak about. You know, I've
coached these guys for a long, long period of time.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
I love them all dearly.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
I think they're wonderful people and wonderful players, and I
think they are all icons of the Melbourne Footy Club.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Notwithstanding you're not going to answer it publicly. Had you
presented that to the board on the previous Monday night.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
No, I'd spoken to the board.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
It was just a standard board meeting about you know,
where we were in the season, where we're at and
what we're trying to do.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
The selfless mantra that drove you to a success. I
remember the time vividly. It was the catch cry of
the whole setup being in Perth over the time. It
was not about it was parking individual ego and embracing
team and they did it to a point where the
individual accolades just flowed. That was the irony of it all.
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So I think they've got away from that. Is that
harsh or is there some truth to that?
Speaker 5 (17:50):
That's clearly when you know that success is there when
everyone can just fully give themselves over the team and
just being incredibly humble and hungry, and that's when you
know your team's ready for success and there's no doubt.
Post success is more challenging, you know, it just is
there's more self interest, more eager that starts to kick in,
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and that's something that everyone needs to be aware of
and ultimately is a footy club, you want to be
a humble, hungry organization that's completely tam orientated.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Do you think.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
There was a degree of impatience around you were trying
to transform the connection piece? There's actually some data around
to say you did it in the last six weeks,
which I'm sure you're not oblivious too, but I don't
know whether your board was oblivious to it or not.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Did you pay the price for not being.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Able to resolve quickly enough that core issue in your game?
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Yeah, there's no question that was an issue for us
over a period of time. Probably in the end it
costs us a couple of finals in twenty three and
it was clearly a facet abad game that we needed.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
To work on and get to work too quickly.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
And right now in the last sort of nine ten weeks,
it's been transitioning to a point that's in the top
six in the competition, and that's really exciting.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Clearly, the connection and the reality to.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Transition the ball for one of the ground, the connection inside,
fifty percent direct score per entry, all that stuff is
transitioning in the right direction, and they're the numbers that
sometimes you look in behind around what we're trying to
do and what we're trying to generate for success outside
of just the win loss.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
On Did you watch on Sunday?
Speaker 4 (19:22):
I did the second half.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
I had a bit of a lunch at a birthday
lunch in Paddington that I wasn't planning to go to,
but when I got home, you know, I sat there
obviously with some mixed emotions initially, but ultimately when the
game was on.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
The line, I want them to win.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
I love the players, I love the group, and I
love the coaches and all the work that's gone into
trying to get the wins on the board.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
And I was cheering from the game.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Have you had the chance to sit down with a group?
Speaker 5 (19:49):
I spoke to the group pro the press conference and
shared my love for them and what they've given me
and over the journey. And I've taken Max and Jack
out for a and just a little bit of a
reflection last Thursday.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Did you ever so love at the start of the year.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Oh, that's a big part of you know, footy is
to connect connection and we had work to do in
that space.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Was to reconnect and to get.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Everyone back on the same page as a football team.
And then from that connection point you can grow some
wonderful things. And that was well on the way. But
you know, people criticize the love side of it. Connection
is a big thing, and the first part was to
bring them back together.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
I've just been a point of the coach. I come
to you and say, what do they need in your
eyes to take them to the next step.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Look, you know clearly the game's becoming a transition game
and you need to make sure that you've got the
capacity to be able to do that. You need to
be able the capacity to execute consistently over time under pressure.
And I think, as I said that the recruiting and
list management team have done a great job in the
last couple of years have started to bring those type
of players into the footy club. I think there's no
doubt there's more of that needed. And as I said,
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I think the next coach is going to be pleasantly
surprised what he's got at his disposal.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Those test kings that have held you in such great stead.
We're talking to buy any and Oliver on those boys.
Have they got the capacity to change with the changing time.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Absolutely, they're changing now.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
I'm watching them now, how they're going about you know,
how they train, how they move, what they focus in on.
It's different and they're starting to evolve their games to
a different level. And I think you know they've all
got still some great years of footing ahead of them.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
You will be in demand, I have no doubt about that.
Is have in fact the Giants. Have you spent time
with the Giants this week?
Speaker 5 (21:31):
I've spent some time up in Sydney and I'm going
to catch up with a whole range of different people.
I'm open minded to doing anything in football. I love
the game, I love coaching. I want to get away,
have a spell, relax, do some PD and coaching is
never complete. You want to get better and I know,
with experience and everything that I've gone through with some
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p D, I'm going to come back even better. So
I'll speak to any club that is in the process
of trying to build a premiership team and think that
I can add some value.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
That's the pause and the coaching journey, which is what
been eleven straight years at Melbourne. You don't seem overly
wounded by it.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Are you are? You guarding against that or we not
seeing that?
Speaker 5 (22:15):
No, I just I'm an optimistic person. I look at
opportunity and everything happens for a reason. As I said,
I was so fortunate to bet a great footy club
for eleven years. That journey has come to a close.
Another one awaits for me, A new adventure awaits. I'm
looking forward to that and I'm looking forward to my
next stint in the AFL.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Thanks for being part of our program throughout the year.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
It's good to have you.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Thanksgas On behalf of the Melbourne Faithful, Jared one of
only four premiership coaches and hopefully we add to that.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
It's good even at the minute you're.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
In rare air.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
You're the only ones fill alive. Thanks, good luck for
what comes next.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Simon Goodwin The journey of the coach throughout the season.
Well, you have to ask yourself, gaz is are you
ready for the eighteen game challenge.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
We are on the eve of AFLW.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
We are on the cuffs of a penultimate round of
the men.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
There's a lot of foody to take it, and you
had the prize to double.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I'm just concentrating on Friday night over in Perth and
then back to Adelaide's Saturday Night which game is bigger?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Quickly?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Freemantle take on Brisbane for their life, both of them.
Adelaide take on Collingwood for their lives.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I think it's Adelaide Collingwood by a whisker.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
That's your Victorian parochial isn't coming in there.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I'm going to stay and do detention with Ross. I
hold they can warm you up. And then all eyes
kill to Perth for a.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Big All right, here's what we have lined up for
it Tonight. Simon Goodwin is about to join us. Semo
and Horse have been deep at work and what has
been and what's still to come, And then m Moore
and Laura Kine will preview the AFLW season, the questions
that sit over season ten and the opportunity that lies within,
and then for Crack preview, Ben Dixon, David King and
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le Mon Tanya to go deep on round twenty three
the Wednesday d day for Ossie Broadbound. And you don't
have to be too creative here.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
No, I'm turning my eyes to Fremantle and this time
last well actually two weeks earlier. This time last year,
they were sitting in third position on the AFL Ladder
with four weeks ago, Jared third on the ladder, the
Freemantle Footy Club steering down. Possibly one of the great
seasons they went third, they went sixth, sixth.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Ninth, tenth season.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Over a year later they are fourth on the ladder
with two weeks to go. They don't want to go
out like that again, Jared. And they've got the reigning
Premier who are playing for their life arriving on their doorstep.
Can't remember a bigger time for the Freemantle Footy Club.
And right now and I know Brisbane Chris Fagan began
bag know about us, but you know the last two
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premiers haven't made the finals. The precedent for that, you
know Fagus would hate it. But we could say Jesus
is getting hard to defend. There's no precon for getting
bundled out again. So Freemantle for me, and then you've
already shown your hand.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
You're going to link up with patterns in y.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Hada is going to call it and that is going
to be one of the biggest nights in West Australian footy.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
There really is. Here are the two coaches for Friday
night in Perth. They're forming.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
The road has been really strong this year. You know.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
The game's much like us, built on contest and stoppage
and it's going to be a good head head battle.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
But one looking forward to it's.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
An extraordinary I think there will never been a year
in AFL footy with fourteen wins in the draw which
we've got at the moment doesn't get you into the finals.
That was what we had last year and finished fifth.
So it's a it's it's it's unusual, but that's just
the way it is.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Gone.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Early read themselves, read the rundown. You're heading for Adelaide. Yeah,
so Adelaide for me.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
So this game is largely being framed around Collingwoods, but
think about Adelaide. This is the chance to stitch up
the minor premiership and to do it is to take
down their bogie team. They have lost ten in a
row against Collingwood and the past five all come with
all sorts of incident and accident, five points, one point,
two points, four points, ten points, the gnashing of teeth
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every time. And then it's also to take this away
from Collingwood. They have won ten in a row at
Adelaide Oval. That's our rageous that are visiting team on
your home ground against a myriad of opponent has won
ten games there. So knock them over, reclaim your fortress,
plant your flag as the minor premier, take the last
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bogie away and get on with winning the flag.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
That's what's at stake for Adelaide.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I did this game at the MCG and you walked away,
go and Adelaidea just off. They're not there, they're not
at that level. And now here we are ten or
four weeks later and they're playing for all the chips
on top of the ladder.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
So you'll be with Jason Mark Roshudo or the full team.
Jack Revolt's got a hand in there because Super Saturday
will be going as well.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Here's Matthew Knicks today. They keep getting bigger, but yeah,
this is huge. This is a team that's I know
you'll go there.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
They've had the wood on us and the reason for
that they're a very good side Collingwood.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
They do it to a lot of sides.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
If it's a close game, they find a way and
that's why they've been sitting up.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
The top and highly respective for so long. They've beaten
us the last ten times. What a setup that is
for the round their heads.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
All right, our agenda begins with Simon Goodwin. We have
shared the journey of the senior coach right throughout the
season and as the circumstances of twenty twenty five dictate,
we will live it right to the ends.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
After his sacking last week.
Speaker 7 (04:44):
Bert Chadwick, Frank Checker, Hughes, Norm Smith and Simon Goodwin
are the four men that have delivered a premiership to
the oldest football club in this game.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
That puts him rare out.
Speaker 7 (04:56):
He's a hero of this football club and we'll be
forever Today.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Many people's never thought this day would come.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
This is possibly the best seven eight minutes in the
club's history.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
It's a gram new flag, Lily. The club are taking
a different approach. As I said, I totally respect that decision.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
I've been fortunate to coach this club for nine years.
I work with some wonderful players, some wonderful people. It's
been a great journey, something that I certainly don't take lightly.
I love coaching these players.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
They've given their all for this football club.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
And that's something old Truish forever.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Simon Goodwin's time at Melbourne came to a close eight
days ago.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Simon, thanks for being here on three sixty.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Welcome Edmund Jared Evening Gas good to be on.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
What gammut of emotion have you gone through over the
past week or so?
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I was a real roller coaster, clearly, obviously.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
You go through the disappointment and the emotional letdown, you know,
sharing the emotions with your family and friends, and then
you go into what's next. You go from a day
where you thinking about a hundred different decisions and hundred
different things you've got to do to waking up and
nothing and walking the dog three times a day. So
life changes pretty quickly and you move forward pretty quickly.
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And I've been blowing away with the messages of support
and love and thanks and you know, I'm looking forward
to the next opportunity.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Those in your professions say that this is part of
it and your day will come at How confronting was
it when your night came?
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Yeah, look, it's clearly confronting. You know.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
You go into this role and into this career and
knowing that at some stage it's not going to end
on your terms. And as I said, I'm so fortunate
ten years in to coach a great footy club at
Melbourne and the oldest footy club in the land to
have ten years and you know your day's coming. But
you know, like everything, it's confronting. When it happens, it's emotional.
You put so much into it, You invest so much
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into it, your faunily does and at the time it's
you know, it's incredibly confronting.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
I suspect most coaches getting inkling somewhere along the way.
This one appeared to come out well for me anyway
on the outside. But what about you when you've got
a call from Brad Green on that night?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Was it?
Speaker 3 (07:19):
You know, something a foot But give us a level
of your understanding of what happened that day and how
much of a shock it was.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
To Yeah, look it was.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
It was a shock, There's no doubt about that. You know,
I was disappointed that that they'd come to that decision.
But you know, you accept that decision, but clearly you
know you've invested so much, and you know you're always
vulnerable as a senior coach, And obviously with outcome we
had only won seven games for the season. If you
look in behind some of just the outcome of the
seven wins, there's things in our game that are heading
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in the right direction. And that's why I'm quite bullish
about where the group's out on the opportunity that's presented
in front of them, especially for the next coach.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
So it's confronting and it is a little bit vulnerable.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
We'll get to whole up. But is that it's sort
of an indication though, shouldn't you be a little aware,
like if your communication with the people who make this
decision is where it should be, that it shouldn't be
such a big shock or is that a naive approach
from someone I don't know anything about it?
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (08:15):
I think you know, as I said, the board have
got their process and it would be really wrong for
me to sit here and speak on behalf of the
board and the process that they undertook, you know, would
I love to have sat there and gone through what
I thought was going to be the process moving forward
and the strategy needed, you know, really go after the
job that I really wanted.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Yeah, I would have loved to it.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
Do one hundred percent think that I was the right
person to carry this team for it. Yeah, I do,
because I've done it before and build this next Premiership
team that I feel is well on its way to doing.
But you know, that's the decision the board made, and
I accept that decision that they need a new voice,
and they want a new voice and they're going to
get one.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
So you would have liked the chance to fight for
your job.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Absolutely, I would have.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
You know, I had a standard board meeting the week
before and didn't have an inkling at that point. But
as I said, I'm sure the board went through a
thorough process. Don't speak on behalf of the board. All
I can speak on is what I would have loved
to have done, and I would have loved to got
that opportunity.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
It's a tough decision to make for Brad Green, who's
a football person, But can you give us an insight
into his and their decision, the reasoning, Like he sat
next to you and said, oh, we need a fresh voice,
and I understand, probably out of respect he can't be
as forthcoming, but there must have been more than that.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
No, that was that was the reason I got, was
that they needed a fresh voice, and they needed a
new voice and a new you know, someone new to
take them forward. And as I said, I accept that decision.
I don't need to seek anymore. I'm sure they went
through a bit of a deeper process of what that
looked like.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
But you know, a fresh voice, I mean there must
be greater nuance to it than that.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Look, obviously, as I said, that's, you know, disappointed. I
can't speak on behalf of the board. And I know
people pressed me about you know what what what is?
You know what was the board thing? I can't speak
on behalf of them. I love my time coaching the
Melbourne Footy Club. I love the players. I love the
position that we're starting to build towards again. Am I
disappointed that I'm not going to be a part of it?
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Absolutely?
Speaker 6 (10:02):
Am.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Did you think being a premiership coach would have afforded
you a little more loyalty with a contract still to
run for next year?
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Look, I think what being a premiership coach does is
that it gives great indication that you're capable of doing
the job and capable of building them back to where
where you think they are. And as I said, we
live in an outcome based sport, so I understand that,
you know, the seven wins of the season isn't It
isn't where we want it to be right now. But
if you look deeper in behind, you know some of
the things that would be we're transitioning towards success. There's
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a lot of good things that are in behind that,
and that's the disappointing part.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Did you coach for the future?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Did you coach on the journey figuring you had twenty
twenty six?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Absolutely. You know, no matter how long I've got on
a contract, I'll always.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Be coaching to build a premiership team because that's what
it's about. It's not about just coaching for the now
and getting to a final or winning eleven or twelve games.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
It's about building.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
And you know, we've got some wonderful young young kids
that were coming through that I wanted to play, that
I knew that were really important to building this next
premiership team. And I wouldn't change anything of that, I'd
always coach that way.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
It's about the team, it's about the footy club. It's
not about me.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
You coached without a without the next president there was
a president in player. You coach without the next chief
executive who had been appointed and wasn't there.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Did it lead to a lack of alignment?
Speaker 5 (11:22):
I think clearly, clearly you need alignment for success. And
I think if you look around the great sporting organizations
around the world, in business, in sport, alignment's critical and
and it's incrediable because it builds trust and you can
make some really great decisions that you need to moving forward.
And you know, I can only speak about my early
days at Melbourne. You know, Peter Jackson was wonderful in
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setting that environment up to build that stability to have
six years of making wonderful decisions for the footy club
which are able to build the foundations for the success
that was needed. So I think any coach, if you
read any book of any successful coach, the biggest thing
they talk about his stability in alignment.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Is it a fractured football club.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Inasmuch as the things Jared pointed to the interim CEO
of the president that's they're but about to hand over physically,
you're at the MCG, you're at Amy Park, you're at Casey.
Does that add up to a fractured football club?
Speaker 4 (12:22):
No, I think I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
I think there's certainly been challenges that shit within that
and there's things that you all football clubs need to
work on.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Melbourne's no different. But if you walk through the.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Doors training at Casey Fields with those players, the environment's healthy,
the environment's.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Alive and well.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
They're committed as ever to getting better and that's the
biggest part of your program to get right.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
And they're in a really good space.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
So what would in your mind when Melbourne support to
say we run that flag in twenty two anyone that
beautifully place the listers where it's at. What in your
mind has led to not having greater success than you
would would like and got to the point now where
you're no longer Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
As I said, one one of the things I'm most
proud of, which I spoke about in my press conference
last week, was our ability to back up twenty two
and twenty three and put ourselves in top four positions
to give ourselves a chance to win another premiership. That's
difficult in the modern game, and you look in recent times,
there's not too many teams have only made finals finishing
the top four to give themselves opportunities. So we weren't
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able to maximize those opportunities as well as we could
to win that next premiership.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
But it is something I'm really proud of. You know.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
I listened to a podcast yesterday and it was Pete
Carroll Las Vegas Raiders, and he was talking about you
got to ask.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
The question, is it tougher to build a premiership program
or maintain a premiership program?
Speaker 5 (13:41):
And they're two very different things, and there's no doubt
that they've both got different challenges. But maintaining it's really
different because you really dig into the purpose. The intrinsic
motivations are really tested to their core because you climbed
the mountain and can you do it over and over
and over again?
Speaker 4 (13:59):
And that tests every one?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Did they become an issue for the group because there
were some disciplinary issues which have been well documented. Did
they handle the success well and were you're hard.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Enough on them?
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Clearly?
Speaker 5 (14:11):
You know, you get tested in your purpose and we
would have done things a little bit differently through that
period to really make sure we had some unforeseen challenges.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
I was tough on the group. You know.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
I drove a pretty hard program through, especially post the
twenty one Grand Final. I drove an incredibly hard program
because I knew that getting back to that top of
the mountain is tough and you need to really push
and drive. And we had some challenges that were un
for seen. You know, we could have done things a
little bit better. But you know, the last few years
has been about pivoting and transitioning to what the next
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team is going to look like.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Did the club spend too much energy fighting the fights
on too many fronts, a lot of it of its
own making, from the board to the player group, in
a period where you needed to channel all your energy
towards winning another flag.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
Yeah, that's the question you'd have to ask, you know
that the powers to be, you know, about the energy
that was given to that. My energy was really about
what to give to the team.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
You know.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
I'm a coach of the Melbourne football team, you know,
and I wanted to make sure I could block out
the noise and give them the best opportunity for success.
And that's my job, and that's the way I went
about my business.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Has the board got a good handle on where this
club's at right now?
Speaker 4 (15:19):
You'd have to have to ask them, and you'd have
to ask them. You want me to talk? No, No, no's
the question you have to ask. You've got Greenie' number,
give him a call. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
But he's spoken about the fact that he thinks there finals.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yeah, he felt you should have been playing finals this year.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yes, which you've spoken about the fact that he is
a club in transition. So that's the odds with where
they're at. So your capacity to convince them is not
to the point where obviously you'd like it.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Yeah. I talk about this all the time.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
I think at the start of every season there's probably
fourteen or fifteen teams that have a want and a
desire to play finals. There's no question about that. I
don't like the word expectations. I've got a view that
you are looking to build your next premiership team. You know,
I want to be someone that builds premiership teams and
just getting to the finals isn't the outcome you're looking for.
And there's a lot of things that go into that,
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and sometimes you know, seven wins compared to twelve wins.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
There isn't much in it.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
But what you want to make sure you're seeing is
the transition to what you're trying to become.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
And that's where you think they're at right now. So
if a coach comes along and says, where have you
left this club at? The playing list is transitional. So
where's that Petrarca, where's that leave?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Oliver?
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Where's that leave? May in particular in terms of are
they going to.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Be part of this next Yeah, I think But for
the next coach, I think it's set up incredibly well.
I'd be incredibly excited by the group that they've got
available to them. The talent's coming through and you know,
their decisions that I don't have to make anymore.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
So you made decisions around what you were going to
do with that senior corps. Had you contemplated breaking that
up at the end of this.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Season, That's something, as I said, that's something that would
stick stay between myself and the board and everyone you
know at the football club. That's not for me need
to make those decisions or speak about. You know, I've
coached these guys for a long, long period of time.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
I love them all dearly.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
I think they're wonderful people and wonderful players, and I
think they are all icons of the Melbourne Footy Club.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Notwithstanding you're not going to answer it publicly. Had you
presented that to the board on the previous Monday night.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
No, I'd spoken to the board.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
It was just a standard board meeting about you know,
where we were in the season, where we're at and
what we're trying to do.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
The selfless mantra that drove you to a success. I
remember the time vividly. It was the catch cry of
the whole setup being in Perth over the time. It
was not about it was parking individual ego and embracing
team and they did it to a point where the
individual accolades just flowed. That was the irony of it all.
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So I think they've got away from that. Is that
harsh or is there some truth to that?
Speaker 5 (17:50):
That's clearly when you know that success is there when
everyone can just fully give themselves over the team and
just being incredibly humble and hungry, and that's when you
know your team's ready for success and there's no doubt.
Post success is more challenging, you know, it just is
there's more self interest, more eager that starts to kick in,
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and that's something that everyone needs to be aware of
and ultimately is a footy club, you want to be
a humble, hungry organization that's completely tam orientated.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Do you think.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
There was a degree of impatience around you were trying
to transform the connection piece? There's actually some data around
to say you did it in the last six weeks,
which I'm sure you're not oblivious too, but I don't
know whether your board was oblivious to it or not.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Did you pay the price for not being.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Able to resolve quickly enough that core issue in your game?
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Yeah, there's no question that was an issue for us
over a period of time. Probably in the end it
costs us a couple of finals in twenty three and
it was clearly a facet abad game that we needed.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
To work on and get to work too quickly.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
And right now in the last sort of nine ten weeks,
it's been transitioning to a point that's in the top
six in the competition, and that's really exciting.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Clearly, the connection and the reality to.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Transition the ball for one of the ground, the connection inside,
fifty percent direct score per entry, all that stuff is
transitioning in the right direction, and they're the numbers that
sometimes you look in behind around what we're trying to
do and what we're trying to generate for success outside
of just the win loss.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
On Did you watch on Sunday?
Speaker 4 (19:22):
I did the second half.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
I had a bit of a lunch at a birthday
lunch in Paddington that I wasn't planning to go to,
but when I got home, you know, I sat there
obviously with some mixed emotions initially, but ultimately when the
game was on.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
The line, I want them to win.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
I love the players, I love the group, and I
love the coaches and all the work that's gone into
trying to get the wins on the board.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
And I was cheering from the game.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Have you had the chance to sit down with a group?
Speaker 5 (19:49):
I spoke to the group pro the press conference and
shared my love for them and what they've given me
and over the journey. And I've taken Max and Jack
out for a and just a little bit of a
reflection last Thursday.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Did you ever so love at the start of the year.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Oh, that's a big part of you know, footy is
to connect connection and we had work to do in
that space.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Was to reconnect and to get.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Everyone back on the same page as a football team.
And then from that connection point you can grow some
wonderful things. And that was well on the way. But
you know, people criticize the love side of it. Connection
is a big thing, and the first part was to
bring them back together.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
I've just been a point of the coach. I come
to you and say, what do they need in your
eyes to take them to the next step.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Look, you know clearly the game's becoming a transition game
and you need to make sure that you've got the
capacity to be able to do that. You need to
be able the capacity to execute consistently over time under pressure.
And I think, as I said that the recruiting and
list management team have done a great job in the
last couple of years have started to bring those type
of players into the footy club. I think there's no
doubt there's more of that needed. And as I said,
(20:54):
I think the next coach is going to be pleasantly
surprised what he's got at his disposal.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Those test kings that have held you in such great stead.
We're talking to buy any and Oliver on those boys.
Have they got the capacity to change with the changing time.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Absolutely, they're changing now.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
I'm watching them now, how they're going about you know,
how they train, how they move, what they focus in on.
It's different and they're starting to evolve their games to
a different level. And I think you know they've all
got still some great years of footing ahead of them.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
You will be in demand, I have no doubt about that.
Is have in fact the Giants. Have you spent time
with the Giants this week?
Speaker 5 (21:31):
I've spent some time up in Sydney and I'm going
to catch up with a whole range of different people.
I'm open minded to doing anything in football. I love
the game, I love coaching. I want to get away,
have a spell, relax, do some PD and coaching is
never complete. You want to get better and I know,
with experience and everything that I've gone through with some
(21:54):
p D, I'm going to come back even better. So
I'll speak to any club that is in the process
of trying to build a premiership team and think that
I can add some value.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
That's the pause and the coaching journey, which is what
been eleven straight years at Melbourne. You don't seem overly
wounded by it.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Are you are? You guarding against that or we not
seeing that?
Speaker 5 (22:15):
No, I just I'm an optimistic person. I look at
opportunity and everything happens for a reason. As I said,
I was so fortunate to bet a great footy club
for eleven years. That journey has come to a close.
Another one awaits for me, A new adventure awaits. I'm
looking forward to that and I'm looking forward to my
next stint in the AFL.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Thanks for being part of our program throughout the year.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
It's good to have you.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Thanksgas On behalf of the Melbourne Faithful, Jared one of
only four premiership coaches and hopefully we add to that.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
It's good even at the minute you're.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
In rare air.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
You're the only ones fill alive. Thanks, good luck for
what comes next.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Simon Goodwin The journey of the coach throughout the season.
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