Catch up on all the footy news from AFL 360, Tuesday 26th of August with Gerard Whateley and Garry Lyon.
This huge edition of AFL 360 covers the Gold Coast Suns as they had their chance to take their first finals spot in franchise history if they beat Essendon in the last match of the regular season. Gerard Whately and Garry Lyon were joined by Suns coach Damien Hardwick ahead of the clash. Also, the panel goes over Tom De Koning's decision to leave Carlton for a bumper offer from St. Kilda.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wednesday Night Footy takes us to the Gold Coast for
the long delayed clash between the Suns and the Bombers
to complete the regular season, and it.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Has huge ramifications for September.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Damian Harwick joins us as.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
The Sons look to claim their piece of history or
the Dogs they're praying for a miracle and.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Tom Dakoning formally tips his hands, leaving Carlton to take
up a rich free agency deal.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
At some Kilder.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
We talked about is this step into it, embrace all
of it in the room and eaton. It's unedifying for
a senior coach to do that. They're on the side
of Courtia with the brain, take the man on.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
They played the best footy I've ever seen at the
start of the season, and in said president left the cup.
Older said, of course they do.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
It's the stuff that legends are made of. What is
holding the ball? I don't think I could answer it
clearly right now that I.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Could do something wrong, you know, And I need to
get on the board sexually.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
The fans lover and with no fans no through sixty
year old.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
The last of two hundred and seven of home and
away matches comes to us from people first Stadium are
game scheduled for round zero delayed until round twenty four
b and it couldn't matter more After fifteen years, Gold
Coast is on the precipice of the first finals appearance.
Tonight's task is to overcome the beleagued Bombers Gary Lyne
(01:24):
Good Evening.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
There we go, Jared in the traditional times slot of
seven twenty on a Wednesday, A big game, so much
riding on it. I'm watched in slowly the build up
and the case being made for us, and and you'd
be forgiven for thinking there's the baby Bombers all of
a sudden back in that very successful period in the
late early nineties. So it's fascinating on every front. We've
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got to cover at every angle you want, and let's
get a go.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
It ties in Bulldogs fans who for the most part
of giving their hearts completely over to it. It ties
in Hawthorne fans as to where they're going to be
traveling to see their final and premantle them. The Giants
are waiting to see who their opponents are going.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Now they're all sitting around the TV watching us. I'm
going to read a turn of the two big dogs
up there in Queensland and ready to call it, and
the Bulldogs fans.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I wonder what Marcus.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I just put myself in Marcus ponto Pelli's shoes right now.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
They're not watching us, surely not just a text. If
it gets close.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Turn the TV on.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
They're four points up.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Our Wednesday starting point is D Day for Ossie broadbound out.
It is D Day for the Gold Coast Suns. Fifteen seasons,
four coaching regimes, never finished, figh th twelfth, two games.
They've had to lock this chance away. This is their
last and best chance to do it.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
And DIMMI sitting there, gun, I've won fourteen games, for
God's sake.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Doesn't that get me a final spot? Not this time.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
You've got to wait right through to Wednesday. So it
is extraordinary the way it's all played out, and we'll
continue to build it. I'm very interested to hear of
it from our Queensland superstars up there and find out
the moon and the Sun's I'm suspected they'll be calm
and get the job done, but I'll be interested.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
All right.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
So there's nothing less than royalty on Judy because it's
such a significant nights of the States.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Only one good car park, I'm told up there on
the Gold Coast, and I'm tippin. It's gone to the
shorter of the two, Jared.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
So the godfather rather than the favorite son.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Jonathan Brown had Lee Matt is good evening.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
To you, thank you, glad to be here, and yes,
Lee got one as in the commentary box. And I
asked the car parking a tenant. She said, you're about
two k's walk across three major highways and you'll eventually
get there, so we know who's the top dog up here.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
But a big night.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
Actually, it looks like there might be sixteen or seventeen
thousand people, which is a pretty good effort on a
Wednesday night.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Give us the mood Leitha.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Is they making a case for a very calm, methodical
approach to this or is there.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
A little bit of tension?
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Well, I wonder I think the Son's, particularly the last
couple of weeks, you've had that pressure of expectations and
the consequence of what's going to go on in the game,
but didn't come up last week. I mean, Port were
very good, but I thought.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
The Sons were very bad.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
So they're going to beat Esston nine times out of
ten at Carrara with the teams that have been feeled tonight.
But is it going to be one of the nine
or one of the one that's always is uncertain.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
So here come the Suns, as the local papers front
page Brownie, it has to.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Be tonight, doesn't it.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
This is fifteen years in the waiting.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
Yeah it is, Jared. It's a good point and just
the community's talking about it. So this is not you know,
this is not a second tier sport anymore. There's a
lot of Victorians, especially after COVID, a lot of Southerners,
so afl is on the front pages quite a bit.
It's on the tip of people's tongues. So I feel
as if the Suns in past may have walked the
streets relatively anonymous, but it certainly would have been brought
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up a few times. So I think they feel that
pressure and it's not a fatal compley. They need to
still get the job done. Tonight should have been a
fighter compley last week, but as we said, Port Adelaide
showed up and invested and show up tonight. I think
gold Coast will feel legitters a little bit.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
You've been in the game up there lethal for a
long long time. You're delivered for the Brisbane lines. Now,
how important is it that we get this Gold Coast
Sons franchise into finals footing?
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Well, I think everyone's got to deserve the right, and
they've deserved the Riders. You said they've won fourteen games
already and they might go to fifteen tonight. So you
certainly deserve your birth. You aren't it, you don't get
given it. It's been a long build up over their
decade plus. They're beating the competition, but I still think
they've got heaps of maturity to come within their group
roundie and that's what. I'm not sure where they are
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right now in terms of terms of the competition, but
certainly got a lot of growth to come and Anderson
and Rau.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
They'll be much better with Rially back.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
And humph which is a unique type of power forward,
so they'll be They're a lot better in the personnels and.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
Ore they are important in So they had five players
named in the All Australian squads, so they've got a
lot of quality, how you say, really and Humphrey back
in as well, say last week calling that game they
just didn't come with a pressure the last quarter they
got family, they made poor decisions when they're moving the
ball from running into the field to the other. So
tonight I think Demi will certainly be looking for greater
composure and being able to handle it hendily occasion better.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
What's the biggest danger, the biggest pit fall that he's
got to look out for, Lee, Well.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
It is actually that that the consequence and the expectation
gets hold of you. I mean, you've still got an opposition.
The scoreboard is going to be nil nil at the
start of the game, and that's what's all about.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Every game you play led away.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
And run, that's got a big consequence on.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
The end of it.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
So being able to focus in on what you need
to do to beat the opposition tonight, trying to forget
about the finals part of it.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
To me, that's not a motivation. That just adds stress
and pressure.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Lee.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
If you if you look beverage you're watching tonight or
you're just waiting to get hold.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
I think you'd have to be watching it if you're
very nervous, watch a lot of anxieties. So I don't
think it'll be fun watching no matter what happens. But hey,
you're still a chance, there's still some hope.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
All right, we'll be back with you shortly.
Speaker 7 (06:48):
Thanks a lot, Thanks going great hands on fox Foot
for sure, Hudson and Dwayne Russell calling it are the
big guns that wanted up for the big gun and
so to be fantastic. All right.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
When last we saw the Suns, it was disappointing on
Friday nights. It ended in tense circumstances. They didn't meet
their markers. This was the instant review of the coach.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
You're playing for a finals campaign.
Speaker 8 (07:15):
If you need me to sit there and give you
motivational speech to want to play your first finals campaign
our organization's history, then you're playing the wrong game.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
The players have got to pick themselves up. They're going
to leave from the front. They're going to take charge.
Speaker 8 (07:27):
I'm going to hand it over to them, and we're
going to see what this group's made of, because they
are made out of something special.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Best Foot forwards, D Day Wednesday, Go get it done.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Just go out and you've done it fourteen times, and
you've done at that four d and times very very well.
And I'm sure Damien Hardwick is about to join us.
Has been reminding of that through the course of the week.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
All right, we've admired a lot of what they've done.
Now for the final step, Damien Hardwy great if you're
with us in the build up to the game.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Thanks for joining us. Evening, Gens, how are we? Well?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
What about you?
Speaker 4 (08:05):
How have you pitched it?
Speaker 1 (08:07):
The consequence since heavily on its have you tried to
lighten it or do you just have the run to
the fire?
Speaker 8 (08:13):
No, No, it's just a normal game, Jared, Look at
it's one of those lines. We're in a very fortunate
position that the fact that made there is our destinies
in our own hands and.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
It's our story to tell. So look, our boys are
very relaxed.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
You know.
Speaker 8 (08:26):
Once again, the consequences are obviously quite die, but we're
really excited about the chance that we are giving ourselves
a chance to play finals footy.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
So there's no place we'd rather be.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
It's a great opportunity. It's no question we're looking forward to.
I was going to ask you.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
About the mood of the group.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Have you seen anything through the course of the week
that just suggests that, oh, there's a little weirs of
thing nerves that haven't seen this year.
Speaker 8 (08:48):
No, we sort of spoke about that, it's okay to
feel nervous, like if you're not feeling your nervous, you
shouldn't be playing the game.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Really, it's the same as me that that sense of.
Speaker 8 (08:55):
Excitement, you know, nerves all mixed together. But look, obviously
you know once that all bouncers, it'll all go away
and you'll start to play.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
So we're really looking forward to the challenge.
Speaker 8 (09:04):
And as you said, it's an incredible opportunity for a
football club and one we're hoping to deliver.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
On and reality and Humphrey back, I suspect they're even
more important, you would know, than the rest of us,
So both ends of the ground, they'd deliver something a
little bit different.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
And we're looking at Bailey Humphrey right now.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
He seems to be and you'd, I think you'd have
a great insight into this. How if you ready for
finals foot you if you have in fact get there.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
So they're ready to go, clearly, yeah they are.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Look, you know I was touching go last week.
Speaker 8 (09:30):
You know, Humper sort of could have played, but we
thought we'd just be pretty conservative with that one, just
to make sure, and look he's ready to go. Obviously
with a shorter breakmate a little bit more difficult, and
Daniel was probably the same. So you know, both very
very important the way we play a game, you know,
run and.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Carry off of Rioli off.
Speaker 8 (09:46):
That half back line and then the ability for hump
but to you know, win can test a ball inside fifty,
which is something we probably struggled with a little bit
with last week and probably a couple of games he's
been out also, So both incredible.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Additions for us.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
How did you handle the week, Daman? So five day turnaround,
there's sharp Did you do the review? Did you immediately
cast forward at what leave it?
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Did you pull?
Speaker 8 (10:09):
Yeah, we sort of combined a couple of days. In
the one we always review the game and you know,
as I always say, a lot loss is a gift.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
There's some things in the game we.
Speaker 8 (10:15):
Didn't do very well, and we spoke about that on
the Tell the Truth Monday as we call it.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
But then we move pretty quickly into.
Speaker 8 (10:22):
Listen to our game plan where we've got to sit
there and understand we've got a pretty good OPO coming
up against.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Ert in this week.
Speaker 8 (10:27):
So you know, for us, it was a very similar
to COVID times.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
You quickly review and you quickly.
Speaker 8 (10:32):
Move forward, and you know, as coaching group, and we're
privileged to do what we do.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
But we haven't had a.
Speaker 8 (10:36):
Day off for a while, so it's.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Been a harrowing a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
To be honest, where's the biggest threat from an essent
point of view? And you see where's the one part
of this guard and they sort of gives you the
great concern.
Speaker 8 (10:48):
Look, I think there's a number obviously, you know merit's
an outstanding player. So that's something will monitor and see
that happen, see how that goes. But obviously they are
own contested mark game. If they control the ball, you know,
it's something that can can you prove advantageous to them.
So we're going to make sure we take that part
of the game, get the game played through a contest
as much as we can. You know, the one thing
that I do know about Scott is he is very
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very good at actually manipulating things to how they wanted
to go.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
So the challenge is going to be there.
Speaker 8 (11:14):
They've obviously got a different, you know, template of players playing,
but the fact the matter is it makes it more
difficult sometimes the opposition coach because you like the predictability
of how they're going to go about it.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
This is what you went there for.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Danian, to take a team that hasn't had success to
the final series.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Are you feeling just a little.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Bit different tonight than maybe you have done in the
previous games with them?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
It is funny.
Speaker 8 (11:38):
I was saying to my partner Alex, you know last
week it was I don't think I've been as flat,
to be perfectly honest, you know, to sit there and
lost the game. Obviously it was a really really tough game,
but to sort of sit there.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
And you're just dying to make finals, not only.
Speaker 8 (11:52):
For you know, our footy club, our city, the people
have been a part of our journey, you know, the
guys like Dave Swallow, Sammy Day, all these players that
have been hit this fotty club for fifteen.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Years and the staff that have been here. And it
was quite a flattening feeling.
Speaker 8 (12:05):
But we had to turn that around pretty quick because
we get another opportunity tonight. But look, I can't wait
for our boys to come out and play. I'm really
excited about the way they're going to present and more important,
I'm excited for the City of Gold case because look,
the talk around the town has been us, which is
really really exciting. Is probably the first time we've had it,
so we're really looking forward to it tonight.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Mild coach Sean Northy would have got that all Australian
squad at forty four and blowing it up life size
and stuck it in Jared Witz's locker.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
What have you attached it?
Speaker 6 (12:32):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (12:32):
Look, you know my thoughts on whether he's an outstanding player,
and I think any player.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
That missus out on that squad could be.
Speaker 8 (12:39):
Unlucky really and they can only pick forty I think
it was and you know with it to me, I
would pick him every day of the week. I love
the way he goes about it, and then the day
helps us win football games and that's the most important
measure in my view. So look, we'll be disappointed hopefully
puts in a hell of a performance tonight, because I
certainly know if he does that, we're a better chance
of winning than not.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
You did have fight recognized, though, so I've put your
equal par with the best of the team.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
So that that was good recognition, wasn't it.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (13:05):
It was great and you know, obviously a guy like
you know, we know noahr Andson and Matt Row and
Ben King and Lise, but recognition for Ben Long who's
had an incredible season and.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Just one of those players. It is really really important
the way we play.
Speaker 8 (13:17):
Both from an aerial aspect but also a ground level
and the physicality implies on the opposition, so you know,
the recognition for all those guys. And then there's the
old resolute key defender and Sam Collins who you know
could have played in the seventies, eighties, nineties, two thousands
and could just say he's still a modern player now,
but you know he's such a jet of a player
as well.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
So we're really privileged and those boys playing with us.
All right, dem it terrific, Thanks a lot.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Would you like to win it early?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Get it done early?
Speaker 4 (13:42):
It'd be nice, wouldn't it.
Speaker 8 (13:43):
But look, they're always going to be an armorous all
these games and you know Wesden will always do that
and we're expecting that. So once again, you know, if
we just.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Win, I'm happy with that. Boys. Good luck, I thank
you guys. Had a good night.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Damien Hardwick, all right, how have you framed it up.
Where is the threat to them? Where might esen them try?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Well? I had a look at it.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
So they had a few discipline issues last week, gave
away some fifty pounty. So I'm getting inside mac Andrew's
head right from the start.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I'm not sure who it is.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
That's capable of doing it, but someone's got to go
to him and start to get inside his head and
try and take his focus off the game. And I
do the same with Ben Long to be honest, who's
so important? Forty two goals to Ben Long? He's had
that standing season. It was great to see him recognized,
but he also can lose focus from time to time.
And obviously pressure on Ben King who sixty two goal season, Jared,
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that's a phenomenal return and he only needs a few opportunities,
so hard and physical Leverde probably goes to him and
gets inside his head as well. So they're the three,
and then you're not going to be able to tag
row but you've got to try and take Anison out.
You've got to take one of the two, and they've
both been down a little bit the last two weeks,
so Rowl and Durham will probably go head to head
and that'll be Yeah, that's one that you just love watching.
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And then maybe it's Andy McGrath, the vice captain that's
moved into the midfield, and you just say to him, mate,
you know, you take responsibility for Narah Anderson in whichever
way you think you should take, whether that's run with
him every minute of the day, whether it's at stoppage.
Certainly there one and two you've got to take that
away from them. But they're the three that I identify,
and then you just go and play. So I think
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it's I don't want to ruin on everyone to watch
Fox all the way through. I think it's a long, long,
long shot, but you go in with a plan. Jared,
that's about three and the rest you just go and
let them go.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
The Bombers have lost twelve in a row.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
They've tried their hearts out in games along the way,
they have kept themselves in some they've run out of troops.
Towards the end, they get two back is Durham back
into the midfield. That gives them a little bit of
firepower and Leverde returns in defense. So it's probably easy
to put they have been on such a long journey together,
facing adversity the whole way through.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
This is the last stand.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I actually don't think you need to make it about
unseating the opposition. We have been through this for twelve games.
At the end, can we sing this song one more time?
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
And look, strange things happen when you know that, you know,
as of ten thirty tonight, your season's over and you're
up on the Gold Coasts, not a bad place to stay,
and you can just let the whole disappointment of that
season sort of sleep out of your skin tomorrow morning
on the beach, and that does funny things. Yeah, we
saw it last weekend and it's it is real and
you think, oh, well that's weekend, it's not you, But
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people go.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
That's it's a real thing.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
When players know the season has come to an end,
they play with a freedom and a bit of a recklessness.
We saw Melbourne do it, We saw Carlton do it.
We saw some kill to do it. These guys that
have to do it to a whole new level to
get this to where it needs to go. But people
keep saying stranger things that happened. Someone's going to remind
me of the stranger thing the nestsen and buying over
at Gold Coast tonight, but we're going to watch and
see what happens.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
So the light ladder plays a role tonight as well,
So win to book a place in the finals, and
then it's eighth or seventh. Now it depends obviously how
much Essendon scores, but it's somewhere between twenty seven and
thirty one points. You don't actually need the Duckworth Lewis
chat I've got it, but you don't because the live
ladder will just tick away all night for you to
keep an eye on.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
But it is.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Between twenty seven and thirty one points that the Gold
Coast would then move up to seven.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
You're going to travel anyway, Yes, that's the botto of mine,
isn't it? Just where they end up traveling up to
Sydney or over to Perth. So I don't know which
is a lesser to evil.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
No, you don't want to get cute with a win
by eighty. If you can go out there and win,
just win.
Speaker 8 (17:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Yeah, I suspect that.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I suspect that they'll throw everything out at the bombers,
and I really do, quite honestly expect a bit of
a belting tonight. This Gold Coast Saturn's team has won
fourteen games and they've had some big performances and I
think it'll be they'll be sharpened up in a big,
big way on the back of the disappointments. And you
know the cut and I know everyone's making this case resident,
(17:47):
which is great, and it's been an interesting couple of
days from a radio and television point of view and
writing articles. But you know, we know where is and
we know who they are, so we're not kicking them
for it. But that's the reality we've we've kind of
in all this as we hope for a contest.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
But we'll see how it all pans out.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
But I do expect them to that old term flex
a bit tonight the go go.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Ser can I just before we leave tonight's game, can
I just have that graphic which shows the expansion teams
that have come in in the AFL era and the
first time they qualified for finals and this does give
a picture of their miles over due West Coast did
in their second year, so it's a different world the
way they were brought in and Adelaide in their third port.
Adelaide repeated that then their best comparison pieces of the
(18:29):
Giants and they've always stuffered.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
By comparison with that.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
The Brisbane Bears managed to do it in their ninth
season and we know they got the offcuts from everybody,
and Fremantle did it the hard way is this is
season fifteen, like it's beyond time. Get this done and
celebrate the moment. Plant the flag for your club in
that town which has been a ghost town for professional
sporting teams.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
This is this is.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
A historic night. Don't fumble it. For God's sake, don't fumble.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
That's a great point.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
That's a great point to build us up into this
game because you don't want to and as Dee well,
you want to get in, but don't limp in either
get in and get in with some form behind you.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
So go after it.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
And I think that man's really important, Dani. Really, we
saw it a bit. We saw a bit of a
Dan really in Shae Bolton with Freeman all I Reckon
in that game last week where it was similarly cutthroat,
and it was Shae Bolton who in the first quarter
or two quarters, just inn eight, he was the highest
rated player on the ground. I think at halftime Shae Bolton.
He said, I've been here boys, I know what this
is about.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
This follow me.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I think there's a bit of dan really tonight about
the gold Co Suns.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
The news of the day is what was long expected,
with Tom deaconing the offer from Saint Kilda was too
good to refuse. We probably knew that from the middle
of the season, as did Carlton, so he will exercise
his rights of free agencies. Immediately tipped his hand as
to where he's going. This is a compensation rather than trade.
So an eight year deal and we're talking one point
seven one point eight million dollars is now it's to
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be dissected. It's clearly the right decision for Tom. Yes,
because the offers weren't even close. Is it the call
for Sint Kilda.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
So let me say up the front, I don't begrudge
anyone getting as much money as they can in whatever
field they're in. And we're talking footy here, so good
on your Tom, well done and good luck. So now
I'm looking at from a Saint Kilda point of view,
and when it's as much money, Jared, I need to
have no question about it working.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
That's where I sit with it. So you go, Nazaiah
signed for one point whatever? What was that true? For two?
You big money? But yeah, yeah, I get it, And
you go.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Jeez, if it was Zach Butter's for one point seven
one point eight.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
You go, well, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
I've got a question over whether one point I know
you've got to pay overs, I know you've got to
get him in, but the question revolves around just how
good he is like that that money means you've got
to be great, right, So he's never kicked more than
nine goals in a season. The average is just over
or just under three marks a game and twelve or
thirteen possessions, and he hasn't done anything of great note
to earn the money. Again, please, I'm not having a
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crack at Tom. Good luck to you, and I hope
you get to where you need to be. But with
that sort of money on one point eight, yep, yep,
a lot of money. I get it, Nas too, yep,
I get it. But as yeah, well I can see it,
I can't see it.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
So the comparison piece being round, as Max Corney needs
to be Max Gorn force and Kilda to do this deal,
and they do marry up a bit so eight years.
They're both eight years again. Gorn had played ninety nine games.
Toconing's played one hundred games. At the exact same moment
in time, Gorn had won a Best and Fairest and
finished third in another. He was a two time All
Australian and he'd won the coach as Association Player of
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the Year by ninety nine games. By the end of
eight seasons, d'aconing's best finish in the Best and Fairest
is seventh.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
So Gorn has embarked on the next eight years that
Daconing is about to hit. He's seven through. If he's
All Australian tomorrow night, he will have gone All Australian
six of seven. He's added at Best and Fairest and
come on the podium two more times. He became captain
after twenty two games into that stretch and broke the
premiership drought.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
I'm hearing and he's got one year to go.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
So Daconing hasn't shown any signs that he's going to
be Max Gorn. That's all I hope he is. I
hope he's the next great ruckman of the competition. Yes,
but after eight is they're not even they're not in
the same ballpark.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah, well that's that is falling into line. Whether I'm
saying one point eight for Max Gorn after what he'd
done at that stage. Yeah, yeah, I can see it
and then the way he goes, So I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
I hope he gets there.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
The other question for me is where's that Lee ram Marshall, Like,
that's the other thing you go, you know, I can
you can get a ruckman on six seven eight.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
You've got a ruckman.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
You've got to got one who's sitting there who's a
pretty good player.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
So good luck with all that working that all out.
I kind of love it.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Take big swings, yeah, just you gotta knock him out
of the park. We're in the countdown a Wednesday night footy.
It's the Suns and the Bombers coming up here on
Fox Footy, Gold Coast looking to book their place in
the finals next week on three point sixty. For remaining
four coaches who will contest the elimination finals, which one
of those two work be will know in a couple
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of hours time. Justin long we all have the security
of home over in Perth. Adam Kingsley will host from
Sydney and the Hawks Sam Mitchell await their destination
Wednesday Night Footy takes us to the Gold Coast for
the long delayed clash between the Suns and the Bombers
to complete the regular season, and it.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Has huge ramifications for September.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Damian Harwick joins us as.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
The Sons look to claim their piece of history or
the Dogs they're praying for a miracle and.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Tom Dakoning formally tips his hands, leaving Carlton to take
up a rich free agency deal.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
At some Kilder.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
We talked about is this step into it, embrace all
of it in the room and eaton. It's unedifying for
a senior coach to do that. They're on the side
of Courtia with the brain, take the man on.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
They played the best footy I've ever seen at the
start of the season, and in said president left the cup.
Older said, of course they do.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
It's the stuff that legends are made of. What is
holding the ball? I don't think I could answer it
clearly right now that I.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Could do something wrong, you know, And I need to
get on the board sexually.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
The fans lover and with no fans no through sixty
year old.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
The last of two hundred and seven of home and
away matches comes to us from people first Stadium are
game scheduled for round zero delayed until round twenty four
b and it couldn't matter more After fifteen years, Gold
Coast is on the precipice of the first finals appearance.
Tonight's task is to overcome the beleagued Bombers Gary Lyne
(01:24):
Good Evening.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
There we go, Jared in the traditional times slot of
seven twenty on a Wednesday, A big game, so much
riding on it. I'm watched in slowly the build up
and the case being made for us, and and you'd
be forgiven for thinking there's the baby Bombers all of
a sudden back in that very successful period in the
late early nineties. So it's fascinating on every front. We've
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got to cover at every angle you want, and let's
get a go.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
It ties in Bulldogs fans who for the most part
of giving their hearts completely over to it. It ties
in Hawthorne fans as to where they're going to be
traveling to see their final and premantle them. The Giants
are waiting to see who their opponents are going.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Now they're all sitting around the TV watching us. I'm
going to read a turn of the two big dogs
up there in Queensland and ready to call it, and
the Bulldogs fans.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I wonder what Marcus.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I just put myself in Marcus ponto Pelli's shoes right now.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
They're not watching us, surely not just a text. If
it gets close.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Turn the TV on.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
They're four points up.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Our Wednesday starting point is D Day for Ossie broadbound out.
It is D Day for the Gold Coast Suns. Fifteen seasons,
four coaching regimes, never finished, figh th twelfth, two games.
They've had to lock this chance away. This is their
last and best chance to do it.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
And DIMMI sitting there, gun, I've won fourteen games, for
God's sake.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Doesn't that get me a final spot? Not this time.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
You've got to wait right through to Wednesday. So it
is extraordinary the way it's all played out, and we'll
continue to build it. I'm very interested to hear of
it from our Queensland superstars up there and find out
the moon and the Sun's I'm suspected they'll be calm
and get the job done, but I'll be interested.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
All right.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
So there's nothing less than royalty on Judy because it's
such a significant nights of the States.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Only one good car park, I'm told up there on
the Gold Coast, and I'm tippin. It's gone to the
shorter of the two, Jared.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
So the godfather rather than the favorite son.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Jonathan Brown had Lee Matt is good evening.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
To you, thank you, glad to be here, and yes,
Lee got one as in the commentary box. And I
asked the car parking a tenant. She said, you're about
two k's walk across three major highways and you'll eventually
get there, so we know who's the top dog up here.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
But a big night.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
Actually, it looks like there might be sixteen or seventeen
thousand people, which is a pretty good effort on a
Wednesday night.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Give us the mood Leitha.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Is they making a case for a very calm, methodical
approach to this or is there.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
A little bit of tension?
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Well, I wonder I think the Son's, particularly the last
couple of weeks, you've had that pressure of expectations and
the consequence of what's going to go on in the game,
but didn't come up last week. I mean, Port were
very good, but I thought.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
The Sons were very bad.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
So they're going to beat Esston nine times out of
ten at Carrara with the teams that have been feeled tonight.
But is it going to be one of the nine
or one of the one that's always is uncertain.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
So here come the Suns, as the local papers front
page Brownie, it has to.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Be tonight, doesn't it.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
This is fifteen years in the waiting.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
Yeah it is, Jared. It's a good point and just
the community's talking about it. So this is not you know,
this is not a second tier sport anymore. There's a
lot of Victorians, especially after COVID, a lot of Southerners,
so afl is on the front pages quite a bit.
It's on the tip of people's tongues. So I feel
as if the Suns in past may have walked the
streets relatively anonymous, but it certainly would have been brought
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up a few times. So I think they feel that
pressure and it's not a fatal compley. They need to
still get the job done. Tonight should have been a
fighter compley last week, but as we said, Port Adelaide
showed up and invested and show up tonight. I think
gold Coast will feel legitters a little bit.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
You've been in the game up there lethal for a
long long time. You're delivered for the Brisbane lines. Now,
how important is it that we get this Gold Coast
Sons franchise into finals footing?
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Well, I think everyone's got to deserve the right, and
they've deserved the Riders. You said they've won fourteen games
already and they might go to fifteen tonight. So you
certainly deserve your birth. You aren't it, you don't get
given it. It's been a long build up over their
decade plus. They're beating the competition, but I still think
they've got heaps of maturity to come within their group
roundie and that's what. I'm not sure where they are
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right now in terms of terms of the competition, but
certainly got a lot of growth to come and Anderson
and Rau.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
They'll be much better with Rially back.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
And humph which is a unique type of power forward,
so they'll be They're a lot better in the personnels and.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
Ore they are important in So they had five players
named in the All Australian squads, so they've got a
lot of quality, how you say, really and Humphrey back
in as well, say last week calling that game they
just didn't come with a pressure the last quarter they
got family, they made poor decisions when they're moving the
ball from running into the field to the other. So
tonight I think Demi will certainly be looking for greater
composure and being able to handle it hendily occasion better.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
What's the biggest danger, the biggest pit fall that he's
got to look out for, Lee, Well.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
It is actually that that the consequence and the expectation
gets hold of you. I mean, you've still got an opposition.
The scoreboard is going to be nil nil at the
start of the game, and that's what's all about.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Every game you play led away.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
And run, that's got a big consequence on.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
The end of it.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
So being able to focus in on what you need
to do to beat the opposition tonight, trying to forget
about the finals part of it.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
To me, that's not a motivation. That just adds stress
and pressure.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Lee.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
If you if you look beverage you're watching tonight or
you're just waiting to get hold.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
I think you'd have to be watching it if you're
very nervous, watch a lot of anxieties. So I don't
think it'll be fun watching no matter what happens. But hey,
you're still a chance, there's still some hope.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
All right, we'll be back with you shortly.
Speaker 7 (06:48):
Thanks a lot, Thanks going great hands on fox Foot
for sure, Hudson and Dwayne Russell calling it are the
big guns that wanted up for the big gun and
so to be fantastic. All right.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
When last we saw the Suns, it was disappointing on
Friday nights. It ended in tense circumstances. They didn't meet
their markers. This was the instant review of the coach.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
You're playing for a finals campaign.
Speaker 8 (07:15):
If you need me to sit there and give you
motivational speech to want to play your first finals campaign
our organization's history, then you're playing the wrong game.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
The players have got to pick themselves up. They're going
to leave from the front. They're going to take charge.
Speaker 8 (07:27):
I'm going to hand it over to them, and we're
going to see what this group's made of, because they
are made out of something special.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Best Foot forwards, D Day Wednesday, Go get it done.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Just go out and you've done it fourteen times, and
you've done at that four d and times very very well.
And I'm sure Damien Hardwick is about to join us.
Has been reminding of that through the course of the week.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
All right, we've admired a lot of what they've done.
Now for the final step, Damien Hardwy great if you're
with us in the build up to the game.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Thanks for joining us. Evening, Gens, how are we? Well?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
What about you?
Speaker 4 (08:05):
How have you pitched it?
Speaker 1 (08:07):
The consequence since heavily on its have you tried to
lighten it or do you just have the run to
the fire?
Speaker 8 (08:13):
No, No, it's just a normal game, Jared, Look at
it's one of those lines. We're in a very fortunate
position that the fact that made there is our destinies
in our own hands and.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
It's our story to tell. So look, our boys are
very relaxed.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
You know.
Speaker 8 (08:26):
Once again, the consequences are obviously quite die, but we're
really excited about the chance that we are giving ourselves
a chance to play finals footy.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
So there's no place we'd rather be.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
It's a great opportunity. It's no question we're looking forward to.
I was going to ask you.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
About the mood of the group.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Have you seen anything through the course of the week
that just suggests that, oh, there's a little weirs of
thing nerves that haven't seen this year.
Speaker 8 (08:48):
No, we sort of spoke about that, it's okay to
feel nervous, like if you're not feeling your nervous, you
shouldn't be playing the game.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Really, it's the same as me that that sense of.
Speaker 8 (08:55):
Excitement, you know, nerves all mixed together. But look, obviously
you know once that all bouncers, it'll all go away
and you'll start to play.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
So we're really looking forward to the challenge.
Speaker 8 (09:04):
And as you said, it's an incredible opportunity for a
football club and one we're hoping to deliver.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
On and reality and Humphrey back, I suspect they're even
more important, you would know, than the rest of us,
So both ends of the ground, they'd deliver something a
little bit different.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
And we're looking at Bailey Humphrey right now.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
He seems to be and you'd, I think you'd have
a great insight into this. How if you ready for
finals foot you if you have in fact get there.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
So they're ready to go, clearly, yeah they are.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Look, you know I was touching go last week.
Speaker 8 (09:30):
You know, Humper sort of could have played, but we
thought we'd just be pretty conservative with that one, just
to make sure, and look he's ready to go. Obviously
with a shorter breakmate a little bit more difficult, and
Daniel was probably the same. So you know, both very
very important the way we play a game, you know,
run and.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Carry off of Rioli off.
Speaker 8 (09:46):
That half back line and then the ability for hump
but to you know, win can test a ball inside fifty,
which is something we probably struggled with a little bit
with last week and probably a couple of games he's
been out also, So both incredible.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Additions for us.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
How did you handle the week, Daman? So five day turnaround,
there's sharp Did you do the review? Did you immediately
cast forward at what leave it?
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Did you pull?
Speaker 8 (10:09):
Yeah, we sort of combined a couple of days. In
the one we always review the game and you know,
as I always say, a lot loss is a gift.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
There's some things in the game we.
Speaker 8 (10:15):
Didn't do very well, and we spoke about that on
the Tell the Truth Monday as we call it.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
But then we move pretty quickly into.
Speaker 8 (10:22):
Listen to our game plan where we've got to sit
there and understand we've got a pretty good OPO coming
up against.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Ert in this week.
Speaker 8 (10:27):
So you know, for us, it was a very similar
to COVID times.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
You quickly review and you quickly.
Speaker 8 (10:32):
Move forward, and you know, as coaching group, and we're
privileged to do what we do.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
But we haven't had a.
Speaker 8 (10:36):
Day off for a while, so it's.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Been a harrowing a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
To be honest, where's the biggest threat from an essent
point of view? And you see where's the one part
of this guard and they sort of gives you the
great concern.
Speaker 8 (10:48):
Look, I think there's a number obviously, you know merit's
an outstanding player. So that's something will monitor and see
that happen, see how that goes. But obviously they are
own contested mark game. If they control the ball, you know,
it's something that can can you prove advantageous to them.
So we're going to make sure we take that part
of the game, get the game played through a contest
as much as we can. You know, the one thing
that I do know about Scott is he is very
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very good at actually manipulating things to how they wanted
to go.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
So the challenge is going to be there.
Speaker 8 (11:14):
They've obviously got a different, you know, template of players playing,
but the fact the matter is it makes it more
difficult sometimes the opposition coach because you like the predictability
of how they're going to go about it.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
This is what you went there for.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Danian, to take a team that hasn't had success to
the final series.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Are you feeling just a little.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Bit different tonight than maybe you have done in the
previous games with them?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
It is funny.
Speaker 8 (11:38):
I was saying to my partner Alex, you know last
week it was I don't think I've been as flat,
to be perfectly honest, you know, to sit there and
lost the game. Obviously it was a really really tough game,
but to sort of sit there.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
And you're just dying to make finals, not only.
Speaker 8 (11:52):
For you know, our footy club, our city, the people
have been a part of our journey, you know, the
guys like Dave Swallow, Sammy Day, all these players that
have been hit this fotty club for fifteen.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Years and the staff that have been here. And it
was quite a flattening feeling.
Speaker 8 (12:05):
But we had to turn that around pretty quick because
we get another opportunity tonight. But look, I can't wait
for our boys to come out and play. I'm really
excited about the way they're going to present and more important,
I'm excited for the City of Gold case because look,
the talk around the town has been us, which is
really really exciting. Is probably the first time we've had it,
so we're really looking forward to it tonight.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Mild coach Sean Northy would have got that all Australian
squad at forty four and blowing it up life size
and stuck it in Jared Witz's locker.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
What have you attached it?
Speaker 6 (12:32):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (12:32):
Look, you know my thoughts on whether he's an outstanding player,
and I think any player.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
That missus out on that squad could be.
Speaker 8 (12:39):
Unlucky really and they can only pick forty I think
it was and you know with it to me, I
would pick him every day of the week. I love
the way he goes about it, and then the day
helps us win football games and that's the most important
measure in my view. So look, we'll be disappointed hopefully
puts in a hell of a performance tonight, because I
certainly know if he does that, we're a better chance
of winning than not.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
You did have fight recognized, though, so I've put your
equal par with the best of the team.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
So that that was good recognition, wasn't it.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (13:05):
It was great and you know, obviously a guy like
you know, we know noahr Andson and Matt Row and
Ben King and Lise, but recognition for Ben Long who's
had an incredible season and.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Just one of those players. It is really really important
the way we play.
Speaker 8 (13:17):
Both from an aerial aspect but also a ground level
and the physicality implies on the opposition, so you know,
the recognition for all those guys. And then there's the
old resolute key defender and Sam Collins who you know
could have played in the seventies, eighties, nineties, two thousands
and could just say he's still a modern player now,
but you know he's such a jet of a player
as well.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
So we're really privileged and those boys playing with us.
All right, dem it terrific, Thanks a lot.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Would you like to win it early?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Get it done early?
Speaker 4 (13:42):
It'd be nice, wouldn't it.
Speaker 8 (13:43):
But look, they're always going to be an armorous all
these games and you know Wesden will always do that
and we're expecting that. So once again, you know, if
we just.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Win, I'm happy with that. Boys. Good luck, I thank
you guys. Had a good night.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Damien Hardwick, all right, how have you framed it up.
Where is the threat to them? Where might esen them try?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Well? I had a look at it.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
So they had a few discipline issues last week, gave
away some fifty pounty. So I'm getting inside mac Andrew's
head right from the start.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I'm not sure who it is.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
That's capable of doing it, but someone's got to go
to him and start to get inside his head and
try and take his focus off the game. And I
do the same with Ben Long to be honest, who's
so important? Forty two goals to Ben Long? He's had
that standing season. It was great to see him recognized,
but he also can lose focus from time to time.
And obviously pressure on Ben King who sixty two goal season, Jared,
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that's a phenomenal return and he only needs a few opportunities,
so hard and physical Leverde probably goes to him and
gets inside his head as well. So they're the three,
and then you're not going to be able to tag
row but you've got to try and take Anison out.
You've got to take one of the two, and they've
both been down a little bit the last two weeks,
so Rowl and Durham will probably go head to head
and that'll be Yeah, that's one that you just love watching.
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And then maybe it's Andy McGrath, the vice captain that's
moved into the midfield, and you just say to him, mate,
you know, you take responsibility for Narah Anderson in whichever
way you think you should take, whether that's run with
him every minute of the day, whether it's at stoppage.
Certainly there one and two you've got to take that
away from them. But they're the three that I identify,
and then you just go and play. So I think
(15:18):
it's I don't want to ruin on everyone to watch
Fox all the way through. I think it's a long, long,
long shot, but you go in with a plan. Jared,
that's about three and the rest you just go and
let them go.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
The Bombers have lost twelve in a row.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
They've tried their hearts out in games along the way,
they have kept themselves in some they've run out of troops.
Towards the end, they get two back is Durham back
into the midfield. That gives them a little bit of
firepower and Leverde returns in defense. So it's probably easy
to put they have been on such a long journey together,
facing adversity the whole way through.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
This is the last stand.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I actually don't think you need to make it about
unseating the opposition. We have been through this for twelve games.
At the end, can we sing this song one more time?
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
And look, strange things happen when you know that, you know,
as of ten thirty tonight, your season's over and you're
up on the Gold Coasts, not a bad place to stay,
and you can just let the whole disappointment of that
season sort of sleep out of your skin tomorrow morning
on the beach, and that does funny things. Yeah, we
saw it last weekend and it's it is real and
you think, oh, well that's weekend, it's not you, But
(16:23):
people go.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
That's it's a real thing.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
When players know the season has come to an end,
they play with a freedom and a bit of a recklessness.
We saw Melbourne do it, We saw Carlton do it.
We saw some kill to do it. These guys that
have to do it to a whole new level to
get this to where it needs to go. But people
keep saying stranger things that happened. Someone's going to remind
me of the stranger thing the nestsen and buying over
at Gold Coast tonight, but we're going to watch and
see what happens.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
So the light ladder plays a role tonight as well,
So win to book a place in the finals, and
then it's eighth or seventh. Now it depends obviously how
much Essendon scores, but it's somewhere between twenty seven and
thirty one points. You don't actually need the Duckworth Lewis
chat I've got it, but you don't because the live
ladder will just tick away all night for you to
keep an eye on.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
But it is.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Between twenty seven and thirty one points that the Gold
Coast would then move up to seven.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
You're going to travel anyway, Yes, that's the botto of mine,
isn't it? Just where they end up traveling up to
Sydney or over to Perth. So I don't know which
is a lesser to evil.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
No, you don't want to get cute with a win
by eighty. If you can go out there and win,
just win.
Speaker 8 (17:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Yeah, I suspect that.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I suspect that they'll throw everything out at the bombers,
and I really do, quite honestly expect a bit of
a belting tonight. This Gold Coast Saturn's team has won
fourteen games and they've had some big performances and I
think it'll be they'll be sharpened up in a big,
big way on the back of the disappointments. And you
know the cut and I know everyone's making this case resident,
(17:47):
which is great, and it's been an interesting couple of
days from a radio and television point of view and
writing articles. But you know, we know where is and
we know who they are, so we're not kicking them
for it. But that's the reality we've we've kind of
in all this as we hope for a contest.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
But we'll see how it all pans out.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
But I do expect them to that old term flex
a bit tonight the go go.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Ser can I just before we leave tonight's game, can
I just have that graphic which shows the expansion teams
that have come in in the AFL era and the
first time they qualified for finals and this does give
a picture of their miles over due West Coast did
in their second year, so it's a different world the
way they were brought in and Adelaide in their third port.
Adelaide repeated that then their best comparison pieces of the
(18:29):
Giants and they've always stuffered.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
By comparison with that.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
The Brisbane Bears managed to do it in their ninth
season and we know they got the offcuts from everybody,
and Fremantle did it the hard way is this is
season fifteen, like it's beyond time. Get this done and
celebrate the moment. Plant the flag for your club in
that town which has been a ghost town for professional
sporting teams.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
This is this is.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
A historic night. Don't fumble it. For God's sake, don't fumble.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
That's a great point.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
That's a great point to build us up into this
game because you don't want to and as Dee well,
you want to get in, but don't limp in either
get in and get in with some form behind you.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
So go after it.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
And I think that man's really important, Dani. Really, we
saw it a bit. We saw a bit of a
Dan really in Shae Bolton with Freeman all I Reckon
in that game last week where it was similarly cutthroat,
and it was Shae Bolton who in the first quarter
or two quarters, just inn eight, he was the highest
rated player on the ground. I think at halftime Shae Bolton.
He said, I've been here boys, I know what this
is about.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
This follow me.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I think there's a bit of dan really tonight about
the gold Co Suns.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
The news of the day is what was long expected,
with Tom deaconing the offer from Saint Kilda was too
good to refuse. We probably knew that from the middle
of the season, as did Carlton, so he will exercise
his rights of free agencies. Immediately tipped his hand as
to where he's going. This is a compensation rather than trade.
So an eight year deal and we're talking one point
seven one point eight million dollars is now it's to
(19:51):
be dissected. It's clearly the right decision for Tom. Yes,
because the offers weren't even close. Is it the call
for Sint Kilda.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
So let me say up the front, I don't begrudge
anyone getting as much money as they can in whatever
field they're in. And we're talking footy here, so good
on your Tom, well done and good luck. So now
I'm looking at from a Saint Kilda point of view,
and when it's as much money, Jared, I need to
have no question about it working.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
That's where I sit with it. So you go, Nazaiah
signed for one point whatever? What was that true? For two?
You big money? But yeah, yeah, I get it, And
you go.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Jeez, if it was Zach Butter's for one point seven
one point eight.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
You go, well, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
I've got a question over whether one point I know
you've got to pay overs, I know you've got to
get him in, but the question revolves around just how
good he is like that that money means you've got
to be great, right, So he's never kicked more than
nine goals in a season. The average is just over
or just under three marks a game and twelve or
thirteen possessions, and he hasn't done anything of great note
to earn the money. Again, please, I'm not having a
(20:55):
crack at Tom. Good luck to you, and I hope
you get to where you need to be. But with
that sort of money on one point eight, yep, yep,
a lot of money. I get it, Nas too, yep,
I get it. But as yeah, well I can see it,
I can't see it.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
So the comparison piece being round, as Max Corney needs
to be Max Gorn force and Kilda to do this deal,
and they do marry up a bit so eight years.
They're both eight years again. Gorn had played ninety nine games.
Toconing's played one hundred games. At the exact same moment
in time, Gorn had won a Best and Fairest and
finished third in another. He was a two time All
Australian and he'd won the coach as Association Player of
(21:28):
the Year by ninety nine games. By the end of
eight seasons, d'aconing's best finish in the Best and Fairest
is seventh.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
So Gorn has embarked on the next eight years that
Daconing is about to hit. He's seven through. If he's
All Australian tomorrow night, he will have gone All Australian
six of seven. He's added at Best and Fairest and
come on the podium two more times. He became captain
after twenty two games into that stretch and broke the
premiership drought.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
I'm hearing and he's got one year to go.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
So Daconing hasn't shown any signs that he's going to
be Max Gorn. That's all I hope he is. I
hope he's the next great ruckman of the competition. Yes,
but after eight is they're not even they're not in
the same ballpark.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah, well that's that is falling into line. Whether I'm
saying one point eight for Max Gorn after what he'd
done at that stage. Yeah, yeah, I can see it
and then the way he goes, So I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
I hope he gets there.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
The other question for me is where's that Lee ram Marshall, Like,
that's the other thing you go, you know, I can
you can get a ruckman on six seven eight.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
You've got a ruckman.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
You've got to got one who's sitting there who's a
pretty good player.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
So good luck with all that working that all out.
I kind of love it.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Take big swings, yeah, just you gotta knock him out
of the park. We're in the countdown a Wednesday night footy.
It's the Suns and the Bombers coming up here on
Fox Footy, Gold Coast looking to book their place in
the finals next week on three point sixty. For remaining
four coaches who will contest the elimination finals, which one
of those two work be will know in a couple
(22:56):
of hours time. Justin long we all have the security
of home over in Perth. Adam Kingsley will host from
Sydney and the Hawks Sam Mitchell await their destination
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