Catch up on all the footy news from AFL 360, Tuesday 8th of July with Garry Lyon and Leigh Montagna.
On AFL 360, Garry Lyon and Leigh Montagna reveal there is an illness spreading through Collingwood’s camp, with Josh Daicos and Darcy Moore dropping out of appearing on the show and Nick Daicos missing training today. They then chat through Essendon’s ever-growing injury list as the headaches gets stronger for Brad Scott, and they finish on a game of real or overreaction with Carlton.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Magpie concerns ahead of Friday night footy, Illness floors summer
Craig McCrae's biggest weapons. We get the umpires verdict on
player contact. Should the players change their ways or should
the umpires get out the way?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Raise the rays here and our.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Players join us this Tuesday GWS skiper Toby Green and
ahead of their biggest ever game the Suns Tuk Miller
we talked about is a step into it, embrace all
of it, hit in the room and pat it.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
It's unedifying for a senior coach to do that.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
They're on the side of caution with the brain hape.
The man on they played the best footy I've.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Ever seen at the start of the season. And if
said president left, the couple older said.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Of course they do. It is the stuff that legends
are made of.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
What is holding the ball?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I don't think I could answer it clearly right now
that I could do something.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Wrong, you know, and I need to gain and the
boards actually.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
The fans lover and with no fans no through sixty
year old. Hello, I'm welcome to AFL three sixty Tuesday
Night edition. I'm having to look at this looks like
a scene from the Godfather. Here it's me and Joey,
Little Joey piskey you need. It's a strong Italian presence
(01:11):
for the black swall the air?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Are you joe Gary nice.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
To be here.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
She's outside the door trying to get in. He's desperate
for others.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
He loves it.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
You did such a good job last night, and counts,
I said, out cheat they're sending in the back of
the bedsit.
Speaker 6 (01:24):
Not one that I just played my role last night,
Gaz I threw a few half follies for the big
boys and they whacked it out of the park.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Through just between the arks, you get a message from Jack.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
No, I didn't get a message from Jack.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Actually that's a good sign.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
As he did.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
He did a real terrible job. He would have rang listen,
bad luck. I got a lot to get through tonight.
There's a bit of a developing if it's a developing story.
But we got Toby Groen been locked in of course,
and Josh Tacos was our other man and he's late out,
so we get that at the moment. Ray Chamberlain's in
very topical around the umpires as well. A bit of
real or over reaction, so plenty to talk about following
(01:58):
us midweek tackle or a Wood, Glenn mcfar on, Scotty Gallen,
they're out there. Losa was wolfing down at bigger Hamburger,
so she'll be ready to go. And then tomorrow thrilled
and said.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Over the.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Good to see our coaches, our ex coaches, Johnny my
mind and I'm in trouble. Adam's Simon, Simon Goodman's going
to join us from training. So we've got around the
grounds old style and we'll have the teams for Carlton
and Brisbane. Hey, just Johnny Longmoin and Adam Simpson have
had a very interesting week. They're going to be fascinating tomorrow. Seriously,
they spent I know this might not be your one's
(02:32):
idea of a great week, but they've spent an inside,
absolutely in the inner sanctums of how the umpiring system works.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
I think it's going to be great. We're going to
chat about the umpires tonight. We're going to have razor
in here, but to just get an insight into exactly
how much detail goes in and whatever one gets up to,
I think it'd be great. Adam Simpson and John long
Mile will be all over it and looking forward to
seeing what I have to say.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, I think Adam will during the game, and then
I think he's at the review the umpires review today,
so it's a bit of a a unknown world raise
A Ray's given us an insight, but these boys will
give us a great insight tomorrow night. So looking forward
to that. Right, Tuesday favorite, kick us off when you've
got Joey Tuesday Favorite.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I love celebrating the modern day greats.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
I think we need to continue to do that, and
we saw milestone on the weekend from Jeremy Cameron seven
hundred AFL goals, only the twenty seventh player in the
history of the game to reach seven hundred, so I
think it needs to be celebrated. He's having some sort
of season. He's last six or eight weeks have been phenomenal,
so I just love.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
The year that he's having.
Speaker 6 (03:29):
He's stealing the Cats to most likely another PRELM final weekend,
and who knows how far they'll go. But yeah, for me,
he's in line to win the All Australi on as
he's most likely going to win the Coleman the Coleman
Medal as well. Gaz and I want to put it
to you though now because it got me thinking about
his seven hundredth goal.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
And we've got two of the modern.
Speaker 6 (03:47):
Day greats the goalkickers here at Fox Footy with Tom
Hawkins and Jack brew Opitt.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I want to ask you where does Jeremy Cameron stack
up or where will he finish?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Because he's ahead of both of them.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
He's got a little bit up his sleeve because by
the end of this year that'll be twelve club leading
goal kicker awards, he'll get his fifth All Australian, he'll
win his second Coleman and who knows he could win
the Best and Fairest and a premiership.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
How do you split the three? Because we've got Buddy
in a different strategy.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
Buds on his own, and then you think these are
the next couples now on impossible individually?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Who would you wind out of those three?
Speaker 6 (04:17):
If you have cap coach and get one at full forward,
you have to pick one of them at full forward.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Cord I'd take Jack. I'd take Tom Hawkers, okay, just
to get up Jack. I'd have jas are on the
flank and Jack can start on the bench so you
back will texted if with that most of the things
I've been able to get kicked off from a media
point of view over the my time, and I haven't
been able to Like you and king E and Jared
(04:42):
Healy who named the Orange Tanami, I haven't been able
to get up a catching haven't got one. You said
your best is the Dash Brothers.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
I want the Dash Brothers Smith and Maxie Holmes.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, that's Orange Tanami. Jared Heilly's one of the all
time greats. So I need help with you tonight because
I'm launching the sunbursts like it.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
It's all about the run off half back, the dash.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Thank you. These nuckily just start laughing for no raison.
Their runoff half back is been an unbelievable It's a
trait that Damian Hardy's had for a long long time.
But the sunburst, look at them, go look at the sunburn.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
At the tsunami. Let's bring the stump.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Away at the sunburst Roland, because they got off half back.
They've got Rioli and Noble of course do an unbelievable job.
Jeffrey as well. They're very dangerous when they burst off
half back. So I think the sun burst if you,
if I can get Kingy on board and you two
run hard with it. I think we can get it up.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
I'm going with you, guys, I'll go and I'm just
going to let lest the other viewers know. There is
another kid coming in the academy who he is thinking
about burst off half back at a young sun Urstattison
is as good as you will see.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
He will be at Gold Coast Sons next year.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
So they'll have another one that'll be part of the Sunburst.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
So I reckon it's sticks gas.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I love it all right, go with me on that one.
I need it to be as pushed hard as we
head towards the finals. Right up, Let's get into the
biggest topic of the day, and it's just emerging and
developing a little bit. As I said, Takos was due
to join us tonight, but illness has gone through the
Hollywood camp. But I'm not sure whether it was all
on the back of steel side Bottom, but he may
be the main conference. I can't blame the kids, to
(06:11):
be honest.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
So yeah, I just had the flu knocked me around
a little bit. I was probably in bed for a
couple of days and then yeah, I had the sort
of fevers and things, and then yeah, I did a
bit of a trot on Saturday and that's as much
as I had done until today at training.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So yeah, it's been a long week.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
And we've heard it might have filtered through the club.
There's a few sick boys as well this week, is
that right?
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Yeah, there's been a couple sort of come and go,
but I think we're just trying to get on the
front foot a little bit and try not to have too.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Many guys in at the same time. The ground zero,
you've caught the blame for it, have Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I think I'm the first to go down there, so
I'm copping the whack.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
But we'll be right and find a way so there'll
be no excuses. We know that from the calling and
footy club, but just you know, it's one to keep
an eye. So obviously Josh is not here tonight. We
had a replacement for him and that was the skip
of Darcy war So Darcy said I'll come in and
feel and then he's had to be a late scratching.
Nick Acos didn't train today. I'm sure they'll be doing
everything they get it under control, but just a little
(07:04):
underwatch coming out.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
It's a little concern, isn't It's not ideal, and as
you know, Gas sometimes footy clubs can be worse than
childcare with germs and all those things, so that you've
got to make sure that if there is someone that's
done well, keep them away. I think we learn a
lot through COVID. So normally it wouldn't be an issue
because players had still come to the club, I reckon,
and they'd still in the year's gone past. They probably
still train, you know, and put on a bit of
a brave face. But I think we've learnt through COVID
(07:27):
go home, stay away from the club. Missing one or
two training sessions, especially for these players, is not going
to be an issue. And hopefully by Thursday Friday they
can get a blowout that you're going need to get
the blowout that's the issue when you've sort of been
bed ridden for a couple of days, maybe going up
getting some sun up North gaz or doing the world
of good and I'm sure they'll be ready to go
come Friday night.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
So as we mentioned, Nick Daekos didn't train, but may
just have been precautionary as well. What I think of
what it does, and we'll talk to Twick Miller about
a lot of things, not just this, but it does
put a little bit more pressure on the Gold Coast Suns,
I reckon. So they go up there in ripping form,
drop two games for the year. As I said, no
excuses for them at all. Craig McCrae will go up
there with full expectation. But for us on the periphery
(08:05):
you're looking at the sun's going right. Might be half
a percent, might be one percent.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
But opportunity is it presents as another opportunity for Gold Coaster.
Maybe get a scalp and knock off the Pies that
no one's really been able to do, and maybe.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
An excuse in highsight.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
I don't think Collin woud will certainly make it an
excuse to spot whatever the result will be. But there
may just be a little in for the Gold Coast.
But I still expect the Pies to play and play.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Like they always do. I want to talk to you
about the Pies. I'm just so taken with the way
that're going about it this year, and they've got lots
of things going for them, the fact that they bat
so deep at the moment. Just have a look at
this bit of vision this and we'll have a look
at the time and the score and have that's a
mixed stay there game over three and a half minutes ago.
And he's the one putting in this other on now.
(08:48):
What he has done, of course, has not been able
to experience what the other a lot of the other
players have and that's where you get a premiership medallion.
So these are the bugs that will be driving standards
anyone that starts to just and there's no sign that
they're sitting on the bat on their heels at all.
But mcstayh hasn't got a premiership Schiltz, Houston, Memory, Long,
Pyram and Sullivan Allen. That's a hungry, hungry bunch. Joey.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
It's amazing considering they won a flag two years ago.
But there is eight players that are desperate to get
that medal and that's why they probably aren't playing the
way they are and what it.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Does, it drives the rest of the group.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
So if there is any complacency from some more senior
players that have been there, done that, when you've got
these guys playing the way they are.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Trained, the way they are drive the standards, it just.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
Can't help but lift it and that's I think a
big part of what.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
We're seeing their resurgence this year.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
It's a great thing for Craig mccraide to having his
back pocket. So I've given you some work. There's six
who aren't playing at the moment, so let's have a
look at these side bottom Obviously coming back from illness,
the goee has to prove that he can get back.
McCreary has demonstrated in their best, Bobby Hills in their best,
Locke Shilts and Billy Frampton. Now there's six, they're all
(09:53):
in their best twenty three. I've said to you, they're
all in. I've written them down, but you go to work.
How do you get those six in? Show me how
you get them into this side.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
So from the twenty three that played last weekend, unfortunately
there are six that I've got missing out.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
That is Tom Mitchell.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
I don't think him and Ned Long can be in
the same team with Pendlebury inside by them.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I just think that the pace.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
Of in issue Hoscan now it's probably the most stiff.
He's the one that is sitting there proofery, but I
think markov Sullivan as well as he's been going Parker
and young Steel that made his debut. It's pretty handy
the six that come in. For those six that just
smash Carlton on the weekend, that's how I see it.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
You reckon when you're a great scene. You're gonna have
some unlucky players now, and.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
Maybe Tom Mitchell and Hoskin Eliot are the two that
are unlucky. That's if all things go well and you've
got your best twinters three available as we know, one
or two injuries will still come up before then, and
you've got pretty handy players waiting in the wings.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
That is again on the assumption that the recovery for
those people go the goee's the one for me. So
it's a good thing for Jordan to gooie. He's sitting
back now and been talked about as this great wildcard
up their sleeve, which he is at his best. He's
going to have to come back through the VFL. He's
going to have to bite his time. He's going to
have to prove that he's ready to go, because no
one's rolling over from that group you just showed us.
(11:03):
Then there's no one just who's in there. Fortunately, at
the moment they're in there, they've earned their space and
they are not going to give it up without a foe.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
So you like that messaging to stay to even though
everyone knows to go eat what he get you go no, No,
You're gonna have to earn this, Jordan. You're gonna have
to make you fight your way into the spot because
possession is nine tenths of the law. And the blokes
that have been playing have been doing a hell of
a job.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
And what you reckon? Tom Mitchell's doing a training so
you've got the mouse. Yeah you'll get a phone call. Sorry,
But this is the thing about him. He's as competitive
and combative as anyone. So and then they'd long from
everything I hear is as equal equally so so there
at each other, just staring them down at training and
game day. I think it's a fantastic thing that's unfolding
from a calling a point of view, and Friday night
(11:43):
shapes in a big, big way. Let's go to The
injury crisis at the Estan Footy Club remains a big
story and continues to be a big story of unrest.
We had Brad Scott here last night that spoke about it.
He just he shrugged his shoulders and almost laughed because
that was on the back of Jie corwall So talk
about play unrest, talking about the surfers, talking about the
strength and conditioning team. So welth we spoke today and
(12:05):
said that the players need to take a bit of responsibility.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
I'm someone who's gone through it or so, I think
you've got to look at yourself first, not be a
look at pointing fingers. But yeah, I think we're on
the right right track and they'll look at it the
end of the year and we'll see what comes to it.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
That's a stand. You know what's frustrated with the strengths
of not that I know of.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
I haven't had those conversations, but as players, I can speak.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
For myself and I'm I'm happy with what the.
Speaker 7 (12:33):
Boys a do on But you've got people falling over
and you sit there you're going, well, I'm playing half
a side this week.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
How do you keep your own?
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Sam as he well, I mean it's like everything in life.
I mean, you've got a choice how you respond to
whatever situation you're in. And you know the choices you
have is you can mop and pour us and pour
me and my job's too hard, and or you can
get on with the job and look.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
At the positives.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
And your positives for us are that.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Lemon the Wild comes in and wouldn't have got an
opportunity in our team three months ago, Angus Clark comes in,
Zac Johnson comes in on all.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
The players that have.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Had opportunity wouldn't have had that opportunity without these injuries.
And we genuinely think we've found some players that are
going to improve our team short, medium, long term. So
you know, the aim is to keep putting a team
on the park every weekend that's capable of getting the
job done, and we haven't shied away from that. There
are no excuses for performance on the weekend because of
(13:30):
who's not there. We're still fielding twenty three fit players.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
So again no excuses. Brad Scott reed, core will base
surgery out season, Cox season done for the concussion protocols
as well. What's take us inside the environment of that
football club? You talk about Collingwood. On the one hand,
I've got players crime and over the top of each
other to get a game, so you can't rest on
your laurels essidence. The complete opposite, you're going to play
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most weeks.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
Yeah, Well, if you look at it from the younger
kids perspective. They get the opportunity. They're looking around beautiful.
I get to play, I get the show, my wares,
I get to try and make a case to become
a full time AFL player in the Essendon side and
go full time.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
But then on the flip side.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
The guys that have got these injuries again, there'd be
frustration mounting.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
And there are some that have just done lucky.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
I mean Colbell's ankle, you know the draper one, Brian
Harry Jones. You can't do much about them. But there
are some players in this team gas that maybe that's
just who they are.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Because you're talking about.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
Zacharied, it's now five years, he's going to have played
twenty games of footy. Maybe he's just going to continue
to break down. You look at Cole Langford, he's played
eleven seasons, only two of those seasons he played twenty
plus games. Ben McKay has played nine seasons, only twice
as he played twenty plus games.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
And now Darcy Parrish, he's.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
Last four years he's played less than fifty games. So unfortunately,
maybe some of these guys, their bodies, this is just
who they are they've been around long enough, they might
break down. But as we said, it presents opportunities for others.
But no doubt they'll do a forensic look at the
high performance program, what can they do better, what can
they do differently, and make sure they try and rectify
these problems.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
They've pip it upside down. That's the coming out of
this and understandably so. But if you're a player, if
you're won't put a name to it, but you're looking
at it now going well, maybe my you know, they
look at Joe Danaherd leave the club, you can't get
himself right. He goes up to Bisban and if it
ends up one of the great finals big game players
of all time and it hardly misses again, will that
(15:17):
start to seep in?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I think it would.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
Yeah, Especially players have said some of those names that
have just continuously had injuries, sometimes it's more than mental.
Fresh start Lincoln mcalfe, remember, couldn't get on the park
at you long goes up to Brisbane and he's able
to play.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
We've seen it with other players as.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
Well, So I think that there is that element of
some of the senior players that have been around a while,
maybe now considering more just a fresh start to see
if a different environment can get the best out of them.
Because these guys, you know, the Langford and Parish and
McKay and some of these older players, time's ticking. They
don't have that long left and it'll be interesting to
see what does come of it in the season.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah, I think that. I think it's a sell for
the footy club. You've got to sell yourself back to
these players who are looking at you going we'll hang on,
why does this keep happening? And I know well for
saying that we've got to take some response ability, but
they would be looking at to go, okay, well are
you doing everything you have to sell that football club
to one player or two or three or four. Will
have to be convincing to say we don't worry, we're
(16:11):
going to get on top of this. Otherwise I wouldn't
be surprised if there's one or two who look look at.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
And especially when you're trying to attract player in the
club as well, the players will be looking, especially if
they have any injury history. They would want to know
all about the high performance staff and the medical team
there and what they are doing. They best practice, which
I'm sure they are. The clubs are great, but some
clubs just struggle more than others.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
More on that, I'm sure. On the midwek tackle the
furnace well, inferno has been going now for three or
four weeks. It just needs a little flame and the
whole Carton situation takes off again. We let our comp
down tonight. I would tell you that last three weeks
have been the blow.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
There was a tense crowd.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I can't remember a game that there wasn't a final
that was tense and you could feel it in.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
The air, you know.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
I feel like the genie is out of the bottle
a little bit. It's pretty hard to put it back in.
I think that it's an accumulation of decisions that are
made not just by VOSSI but by the club in general,
the football department.
Speaker 7 (17:14):
But I need to see some player effort, and there's
players that should be playing for their career.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Did you not see player effort on the weekend?
Speaker 7 (17:20):
Because I did, But there's recent weeks where I doubted
the player effort.
Speaker 8 (17:24):
He's basically said, our contest stuff is ef and deplorable.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
It's f and deplorable.
Speaker 8 (17:29):
He's not having to go at those bots. Although the
leaders are a part of it and they are responsible
for what happens on field, these efforts are unacceptable.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Now it's not about trying to play for Vossi and
keep his job.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
It's your own personal pride.
Speaker 8 (17:42):
It's pride in the jumper, playing for your teammates, but
just getting out of there and having a crack. Locker
room knows exactly what goes on, and they know when
a player has picked and chosen with his work rate
and with his contest. Every locker room knows that. So
if there's no censure or no challenge the coaching group,
then that becomes an accepted part of what we do.
Speaker 7 (18:05):
But you can't try to appease for supporters. And I
don't say that in a nasty way, but there's too
much emotion involves, so they will be appeased even when
you make the right decisions.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Not for the first time, the Blues are under the spotlight,
and it's a Thursday night spotlight as well. You see
it all here on Fox Footy from six point thirty
they take on the mighty Brisbane line. So it doesn't
get any easier for and when you start talking about
effort and conditional effort and who knows what in the
locker room. You know, you're in the middle of a
real crisis, Joey, So here we go for you. Card
players need to be harder on each other, real or overreaction, No,
(18:42):
that's real.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
They need to start by being harder on themselves first
of all, and then harder on each other.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Any great football team, it's player driven.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
It's not relying on the coach telling the players what
they need to do, or the coach grabbing the leaders
in and telling them to tell the players.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
It's up to the playing group.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
And I don't know if I see this team, like
some of the other sides, really challenge each other on
the field, have those hard conversations, it doesn't feel like
they're doing it enough.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
In the locker room. You know, I'm hearing and being told.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
That maybe they don't like hearing the feedback this playing group,
and they need to maybe you hear a few things
a bit more and take it on board and actually
understand they've got a long way to go. So I
think that has been part of the issue that maybe
they think they're doing everything right, Maybe they think they're
being hard on.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
One another and hard on themselves.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
But sometimes you need to maybe hear it from others
or see what the great clubs do to realize that
maybe there's still a bit of a gap there.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
And I think that's where it's. Looking at the Blues, all.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
The very best teams that we're ever played in were
the hardest on each other. There's no getting away from that.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
What about you, Gaz, Tom Daconing is droppable right.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Now overaction from mine. I think this comes on the
back of the noise around his contract and the secular interest.
If that's not there at all, then my looking at
time and guarantee he's got to be better. We know
he's got to be better. I mean, all these medits
that we've got here are absolutely right, but he's There's
about twelve that would go before him, I'd think, But
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if you dropped him, it'd be more about what's going
on externally. So the challenge for Tom is to get
up and lead on Thursday night and say, let me
right the wrong. The thing is in your great coach,
says your great pass coach. Grant Thomas says this. All
the time you choose, you can choose to be what
you want to be on Thursday night. You can choose
to be down and low on confidence and feeling sorry
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for yourself, where you can choose to be a leader
and get up and going. And I want to see
Tom decant and crashing him that first bounce and getting
back to his athletic best and choosing to be what
we've all seen him over the journey, at his very
best from a cart footy clocks.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
They'd like to see someone have a conversation, whether it's
Voss or the captain, say, it doesn't matter what.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Your decision is.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
All we need from you right now is just six
weeks of your very best effort. And then if you
do walk out, you can walk out with your head
out of high or hopefully you stay and we move
on to bigger and better things.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Cut quick.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
He's Michael Voss will be there next year, an easy
one for you.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
That's real. For now. They wouldn't want to ask you
for next year. It's real. I still think right now
he'll be coaching next year. Yeah, I do.
Speaker 6 (21:02):
I think that I would like to see some changes
around him first, to find out whether he can take
the group where he wants to.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I think they look at the football.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
Program, maybe some of the coaches. No doubt the list
needs a freshen up. And next year if he gets
Sam Walsh fully fitting, healthy, Jaggersmith back in there, Elijah Hollins,
hopefully some of his more talented players with some youngsters
and a little rejig, I'd like to give him one
more crack out. And he's contracted, see if he can
do something with the group. If he can't next year,
well then it's a different conversation.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
I think he might be one out or not one out.
But I liked that luck turned opinion.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
That's a different view. Last one for you who Charlie
Kerno has to be better.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Yeah, that's real. Charlie does need to be better, that's true.
And I thought he was better last week. I went
pretty hard on in the week leading up to it,
and I thought he competed harder, got up the ground
and was involved a bit more. But he needs to
be better again. He's you know, some of these decisions.
The coning hit up lead there was the easiest hit
up lead of the night, and he just was thinking
about himself and kicking a goal from outside fifty. But yeah,
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I mean this was he had good competition on the weekend.
He took a ten marks. I think, so he just
he needs to be better in a whole heap of
different areas. But he, as I said about the curning,
he needs to be that as well, you know, get
up and be the leader. So you make the choice
willow in self pity or do something about it. And
I reckon, you've heard that before. Let's take a break.
Let's get two of the big players on are going
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to be involved in two of the biggest games of
the weekend for the GWS Giants and the Gold Coast Sons.
The Giants take on the Cats they like playing against
them and took Miller late in. They take on the
Pies and what's going to be the biggest game in
their history. So Toby Green took Miller up next
Magpie concerns ahead of Friday night footy, Illness floors summer
Craig McCrae's biggest weapons. We get the umpires verdict on
player contact. Should the players change their ways or should
the umpires get out the way?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Raise the rays here and our.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Players join us this Tuesday GWS skiper Toby Green and
ahead of their biggest ever game the Suns Tuk Miller
we talked about is a step into it, embrace all
of it, hit in the room and pat it.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
It's unedifying for a senior coach to do that.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
They're on the side of caution with the brain hape.
The man on they played the best footy I've.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Ever seen at the start of the season. And if
said president left, the couple older said.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Of course they do. It is the stuff that legends
are made of.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
What is holding the ball?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I don't think I could answer it clearly right now
that I could do something.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Wrong, you know, and I need to gain and the
boards actually.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
The fans lover and with no fans no through sixty
year old. Hello, I'm welcome to AFL three sixty Tuesday
Night edition. I'm having to look at this looks like
a scene from the Godfather. Here it's me and Joey,
Little Joey piskey you need. It's a strong Italian presence
(01:11):
for the black swall the air?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Are you joe Gary nice.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
To be here.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
She's outside the door trying to get in. He's desperate
for others.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
He loves it.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
You did such a good job last night, and counts,
I said, out cheat they're sending in the back of
the bedsit.
Speaker 6 (01:24):
Not one that I just played my role last night,
Gaz I threw a few half follies for the big
boys and they whacked it out of the park.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Through just between the arks, you get a message from Jack.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
No, I didn't get a message from Jack.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Actually that's a good sign.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
As he did.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
He did a real terrible job. He would have rang listen,
bad luck. I got a lot to get through tonight.
There's a bit of a developing if it's a developing story.
But we got Toby Groen been locked in of course,
and Josh Tacos was our other man and he's late out,
so we get that at the moment. Ray Chamberlain's in
very topical around the umpires as well. A bit of
real or over reaction, so plenty to talk about following
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us midweek tackle or a Wood, Glenn mcfar on, Scotty Gallen,
they're out there. Losa was wolfing down at bigger Hamburger,
so she'll be ready to go. And then tomorrow thrilled
and said.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Over the.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Good to see our coaches, our ex coaches, Johnny my
mind and I'm in trouble. Adam's Simon, Simon Goodman's going
to join us from training. So we've got around the
grounds old style and we'll have the teams for Carlton
and Brisbane. Hey, just Johnny Longmoin and Adam Simpson have
had a very interesting week. They're going to be fascinating tomorrow. Seriously,
they spent I know this might not be your one's
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idea of a great week, but they've spent an inside,
absolutely in the inner sanctums of how the umpiring system works.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
I think it's going to be great. We're going to
chat about the umpires tonight. We're going to have razor
in here, but to just get an insight into exactly
how much detail goes in and whatever one gets up to,
I think it'd be great. Adam Simpson and John long
Mile will be all over it and looking forward to
seeing what I have to say.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, I think Adam will during the game, and then
I think he's at the review the umpires review today,
so it's a bit of a a unknown world raise
A Ray's given us an insight, but these boys will
give us a great insight tomorrow night. So looking forward
to that. Right, Tuesday favorite, kick us off when you've
got Joey Tuesday Favorite.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I love celebrating the modern day greats.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
I think we need to continue to do that, and
we saw milestone on the weekend from Jeremy Cameron seven
hundred AFL goals, only the twenty seventh player in the
history of the game to reach seven hundred, so I
think it needs to be celebrated. He's having some sort
of season. He's last six or eight weeks have been phenomenal,
so I just love.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
The year that he's having.
Speaker 6 (03:29):
He's stealing the Cats to most likely another PRELM final weekend,
and who knows how far they'll go. But yeah, for me,
he's in line to win the All Australi on as
he's most likely going to win the Coleman the Coleman
Medal as well. Gaz and I want to put it
to you though now because it got me thinking about
his seven hundredth goal.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
And we've got two of the modern.
Speaker 6 (03:47):
Day greats the goalkickers here at Fox Footy with Tom
Hawkins and Jack brew Opitt.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I want to ask you where does Jeremy Cameron stack
up or where will he finish?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Because he's ahead of both of them.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
He's got a little bit up his sleeve because by
the end of this year that'll be twelve club leading
goal kicker awards, he'll get his fifth All Australian, he'll
win his second Coleman and who knows he could win
the Best and Fairest and a premiership.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
How do you split the three? Because we've got Buddy
in a different strategy.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
Buds on his own, and then you think these are
the next couples now on impossible individually?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Who would you wind out of those three?
Speaker 6 (04:17):
If you have cap coach and get one at full forward,
you have to pick one of them at full forward.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Cord I'd take Jack. I'd take Tom Hawkers, okay, just
to get up Jack. I'd have jas are on the
flank and Jack can start on the bench so you
back will texted if with that most of the things
I've been able to get kicked off from a media
point of view over the my time, and I haven't
been able to Like you and king E and Jared
(04:42):
Healy who named the Orange Tanami, I haven't been able
to get up a catching haven't got one. You said
your best is the Dash Brothers.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
I want the Dash Brothers Smith and Maxie Holmes.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, that's Orange Tanami. Jared Heilly's one of the all
time greats. So I need help with you tonight because
I'm launching the sunbursts like it.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
It's all about the run off half back, the dash.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Thank you. These nuckily just start laughing for no raison.
Their runoff half back is been an unbelievable It's a
trait that Damian Hardy's had for a long long time.
But the sunburst, look at them, go look at the sunburn.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
At the tsunami. Let's bring the stump.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Away at the sunburst Roland, because they got off half back.
They've got Rioli and Noble of course do an unbelievable job.
Jeffrey as well. They're very dangerous when they burst off
half back. So I think the sun burst if you,
if I can get Kingy on board and you two
run hard with it. I think we can get it up.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
I'm going with you, guys, I'll go and I'm just
going to let lest the other viewers know. There is
another kid coming in the academy who he is thinking
about burst off half back at a young sun Urstattison
is as good as you will see.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
He will be at Gold Coast Sons next year.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
So they'll have another one that'll be part of the Sunburst.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
So I reckon it's sticks gas.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I love it all right, go with me on that one.
I need it to be as pushed hard as we
head towards the finals. Right up, Let's get into the
biggest topic of the day, and it's just emerging and
developing a little bit. As I said, Takos was due
to join us tonight, but illness has gone through the
Hollywood camp. But I'm not sure whether it was all
on the back of steel side Bottom, but he may
be the main conference. I can't blame the kids, to
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be honest.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
So yeah, I just had the flu knocked me around
a little bit. I was probably in bed for a
couple of days and then yeah, I had the sort
of fevers and things, and then yeah, I did a
bit of a trot on Saturday and that's as much
as I had done until today at training.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So yeah, it's been a long week.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
And we've heard it might have filtered through the club.
There's a few sick boys as well this week, is
that right?
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Yeah, there's been a couple sort of come and go,
but I think we're just trying to get on the
front foot a little bit and try not to have too.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Many guys in at the same time. The ground zero,
you've caught the blame for it, have Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I think I'm the first to go down there, so
I'm copping the whack.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
But we'll be right and find a way so there'll
be no excuses. We know that from the calling and
footy club, but just you know, it's one to keep
an eye. So obviously Josh is not here tonight. We
had a replacement for him and that was the skip
of Darcy war So Darcy said I'll come in and
feel and then he's had to be a late scratching.
Nick Acos didn't train today. I'm sure they'll be doing
everything they get it under control, but just a little
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underwatch coming out.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
It's a little concern, isn't It's not ideal, and as
you know, Gas sometimes footy clubs can be worse than
childcare with germs and all those things, so that you've
got to make sure that if there is someone that's
done well, keep them away. I think we learn a
lot through COVID. So normally it wouldn't be an issue
because players had still come to the club, I reckon,
and they'd still in the year's gone past. They probably
still train, you know, and put on a bit of
a brave face. But I think we've learnt through COVID
(07:27):
go home, stay away from the club. Missing one or
two training sessions, especially for these players, is not going
to be an issue. And hopefully by Thursday Friday they
can get a blowout that you're going need to get
the blowout that's the issue when you've sort of been
bed ridden for a couple of days, maybe going up
getting some sun up North gaz or doing the world
of good and I'm sure they'll be ready to go
come Friday night.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
So as we mentioned, Nick Daekos didn't train, but may
just have been precautionary as well. What I think of
what it does, and we'll talk to Twick Miller about
a lot of things, not just this, but it does
put a little bit more pressure on the Gold Coast Suns,
I reckon. So they go up there in ripping form,
drop two games for the year. As I said, no
excuses for them at all. Craig McCrae will go up
there with full expectation. But for us on the periphery
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you're looking at the sun's going right. Might be half
a percent, might be one percent.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
But opportunity is it presents as another opportunity for Gold Coaster.
Maybe get a scalp and knock off the Pies that
no one's really been able to do, and maybe.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
An excuse in highsight.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
I don't think Collin woud will certainly make it an
excuse to spot whatever the result will be. But there
may just be a little in for the Gold Coast.
But I still expect the Pies to play and play.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Like they always do. I want to talk to you
about the Pies. I'm just so taken with the way
that're going about it this year, and they've got lots
of things going for them, the fact that they bat
so deep at the moment. Just have a look at
this bit of vision this and we'll have a look
at the time and the score and have that's a
mixed stay there game over three and a half minutes ago.
And he's the one putting in this other on now.
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What he has done, of course, has not been able
to experience what the other a lot of the other
players have and that's where you get a premiership medallion.
So these are the bugs that will be driving standards
anyone that starts to just and there's no sign that
they're sitting on the bat on their heels at all.
But mcstayh hasn't got a premiership Schiltz, Houston, Memory, Long,
Pyram and Sullivan Allen. That's a hungry, hungry bunch. Joey.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
It's amazing considering they won a flag two years ago.
But there is eight players that are desperate to get
that medal and that's why they probably aren't playing the
way they are and what it.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Does, it drives the rest of the group.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
So if there is any complacency from some more senior
players that have been there, done that, when you've got
these guys playing the way they are.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Trained, the way they are drive the standards, it just.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
Can't help but lift it and that's I think a
big part of what.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
We're seeing their resurgence this year.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
It's a great thing for Craig mccraide to having his
back pocket. So I've given you some work. There's six
who aren't playing at the moment, so let's have a
look at these side bottom Obviously coming back from illness,
the goee has to prove that he can get back.
McCreary has demonstrated in their best, Bobby Hills in their best,
Locke Shilts and Billy Frampton. Now there's six, they're all
(09:53):
in their best twenty three. I've said to you, they're
all in. I've written them down, but you go to work.
How do you get those six in? Show me how
you get them into this side.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
So from the twenty three that played last weekend, unfortunately
there are six that I've got missing out.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
That is Tom Mitchell.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
I don't think him and Ned Long can be in
the same team with Pendlebury inside by them.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I just think that the pace.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
Of in issue Hoscan now it's probably the most stiff.
He's the one that is sitting there proofery, but I
think markov Sullivan as well as he's been going Parker
and young Steel that made his debut. It's pretty handy
the six that come in. For those six that just
smash Carlton on the weekend, that's how I see it.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
You reckon when you're a great scene. You're gonna have
some unlucky players now, and.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
Maybe Tom Mitchell and Hoskin Eliot are the two that
are unlucky. That's if all things go well and you've
got your best twinters three available as we know, one
or two injuries will still come up before then, and
you've got pretty handy players waiting in the wings.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
That is again on the assumption that the recovery for
those people go the goee's the one for me. So
it's a good thing for Jordan to gooie. He's sitting
back now and been talked about as this great wildcard
up their sleeve, which he is at his best. He's
going to have to come back through the VFL. He's
going to have to bite his time. He's going to
have to prove that he's ready to go, because no
one's rolling over from that group you just showed us.
(11:03):
Then there's no one just who's in there. Fortunately, at
the moment they're in there, they've earned their space and
they are not going to give it up without a foe.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
So you like that messaging to stay to even though
everyone knows to go eat what he get you go no, No,
You're gonna have to earn this, Jordan. You're gonna have
to make you fight your way into the spot because
possession is nine tenths of the law. And the blokes
that have been playing have been doing a hell of
a job.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
And what you reckon? Tom Mitchell's doing a training so
you've got the mouse. Yeah you'll get a phone call. Sorry,
But this is the thing about him. He's as competitive
and combative as anyone. So and then they'd long from
everything I hear is as equal equally so so there
at each other, just staring them down at training and
game day. I think it's a fantastic thing that's unfolding
from a calling a point of view, and Friday night
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shapes in a big, big way. Let's go to The
injury crisis at the Estan Footy Club remains a big
story and continues to be a big story of unrest.
We had Brad Scott here last night that spoke about it.
He just he shrugged his shoulders and almost laughed because
that was on the back of Jie corwall So talk
about play unrest, talking about the surfers, talking about the
strength and conditioning team. So welth we spoke today and
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said that the players need to take a bit of responsibility.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
I'm someone who's gone through it or so, I think
you've got to look at yourself first, not be a
look at pointing fingers. But yeah, I think we're on
the right right track and they'll look at it the
end of the year and we'll see what comes to it.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
That's a stand. You know what's frustrated with the strengths
of not that I know of.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
I haven't had those conversations, but as players, I can speak.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
For myself and I'm I'm happy with what the.
Speaker 7 (12:33):
Boys a do on But you've got people falling over
and you sit there you're going, well, I'm playing half
a side this week.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
How do you keep your own?
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Sam as he well, I mean it's like everything in life.
I mean, you've got a choice how you respond to
whatever situation you're in. And you know the choices you
have is you can mop and pour us and pour
me and my job's too hard, and or you can
get on with the job and look.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
At the positives.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
And your positives for us are that.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Lemon the Wild comes in and wouldn't have got an
opportunity in our team three months ago, Angus Clark comes in,
Zac Johnson comes in on all.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
The players that have.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Had opportunity wouldn't have had that opportunity without these injuries.
And we genuinely think we've found some players that are
going to improve our team short, medium, long term. So
you know, the aim is to keep putting a team
on the park every weekend that's capable of getting the
job done, and we haven't shied away from that. There
are no excuses for performance on the weekend because of
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who's not there. We're still fielding twenty three fit players.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
So again no excuses. Brad Scott reed, core will base
surgery out season, Cox season done for the concussion protocols
as well. What's take us inside the environment of that
football club? You talk about Collingwood. On the one hand,
I've got players crime and over the top of each
other to get a game, so you can't rest on
your laurels essidence. The complete opposite, you're going to play
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most weeks.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
Yeah, Well, if you look at it from the younger
kids perspective. They get the opportunity. They're looking around beautiful.
I get to play, I get the show, my wares,
I get to try and make a case to become
a full time AFL player in the Essendon side and
go full time.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
But then on the flip side.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
The guys that have got these injuries again, there'd be
frustration mounting.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
And there are some that have just done lucky.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
I mean Colbell's ankle, you know the draper one, Brian
Harry Jones. You can't do much about them. But there
are some players in this team gas that maybe that's
just who they are.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Because you're talking about.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
Zacharied, it's now five years, he's going to have played
twenty games of footy. Maybe he's just going to continue
to break down. You look at Cole Langford, he's played
eleven seasons, only two of those seasons he played twenty
plus games. Ben McKay has played nine seasons, only twice
as he played twenty plus games.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
And now Darcy Parrish, he's.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
Last four years he's played less than fifty games. So unfortunately,
maybe some of these guys, their bodies, this is just
who they are they've been around long enough, they might
break down. But as we said, it presents opportunities for others.
But no doubt they'll do a forensic look at the
high performance program, what can they do better, what can
they do differently, and make sure they try and rectify
these problems.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
They've pip it upside down. That's the coming out of
this and understandably so. But if you're a player, if
you're won't put a name to it, but you're looking
at it now going well, maybe my you know, they
look at Joe Danaherd leave the club, you can't get
himself right. He goes up to Bisban and if it
ends up one of the great finals big game players
of all time and it hardly misses again, will that
(15:17):
start to seep in?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I think it would.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
Yeah, Especially players have said some of those names that
have just continuously had injuries, sometimes it's more than mental.
Fresh start Lincoln mcalfe, remember, couldn't get on the park
at you long goes up to Brisbane and he's able
to play.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
We've seen it with other players as.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
Well, So I think that there is that element of
some of the senior players that have been around a while,
maybe now considering more just a fresh start to see
if a different environment can get the best out of them.
Because these guys, you know, the Langford and Parish and
McKay and some of these older players, time's ticking. They
don't have that long left and it'll be interesting to
see what does come of it in the season.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah, I think that. I think it's a sell for
the footy club. You've got to sell yourself back to
these players who are looking at you going we'll hang on,
why does this keep happening? And I know well for
saying that we've got to take some response ability, but
they would be looking at to go, okay, well are
you doing everything you have to sell that football club
to one player or two or three or four. Will
have to be convincing to say we don't worry, we're
(16:11):
going to get on top of this. Otherwise I wouldn't
be surprised if there's one or two who look look at.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
And especially when you're trying to attract player in the
club as well, the players will be looking, especially if
they have any injury history. They would want to know
all about the high performance staff and the medical team
there and what they are doing. They best practice, which
I'm sure they are. The clubs are great, but some
clubs just struggle more than others.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
More on that, I'm sure. On the midwek tackle the
furnace well, inferno has been going now for three or
four weeks. It just needs a little flame and the
whole Carton situation takes off again. We let our comp
down tonight. I would tell you that last three weeks
have been the blow.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
There was a tense crowd.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I can't remember a game that there wasn't a final
that was tense and you could feel it in.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
The air, you know.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
I feel like the genie is out of the bottle
a little bit. It's pretty hard to put it back in.
I think that it's an accumulation of decisions that are
made not just by VOSSI but by the club in general,
the football department.
Speaker 7 (17:14):
But I need to see some player effort, and there's
players that should be playing for their career.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Did you not see player effort on the weekend?
Speaker 7 (17:20):
Because I did, But there's recent weeks where I doubted
the player effort.
Speaker 8 (17:24):
He's basically said, our contest stuff is ef and deplorable.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
It's f and deplorable.
Speaker 8 (17:29):
He's not having to go at those bots. Although the
leaders are a part of it and they are responsible
for what happens on field, these efforts are unacceptable.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Now it's not about trying to play for Vossi and
keep his job.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
It's your own personal pride.
Speaker 8 (17:42):
It's pride in the jumper, playing for your teammates, but
just getting out of there and having a crack. Locker
room knows exactly what goes on, and they know when
a player has picked and chosen with his work rate
and with his contest. Every locker room knows that. So
if there's no censure or no challenge the coaching group,
then that becomes an accepted part of what we do.
Speaker 7 (18:05):
But you can't try to appease for supporters. And I
don't say that in a nasty way, but there's too
much emotion involves, so they will be appeased even when
you make the right decisions.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Not for the first time, the Blues are under the spotlight,
and it's a Thursday night spotlight as well. You see
it all here on Fox Footy from six point thirty
they take on the mighty Brisbane line. So it doesn't
get any easier for and when you start talking about
effort and conditional effort and who knows what in the
locker room. You know, you're in the middle of a
real crisis, Joey, So here we go for you. Card
players need to be harder on each other, real or overreaction, No,
(18:42):
that's real.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
They need to start by being harder on themselves first
of all, and then harder on each other.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Any great football team, it's player driven.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
It's not relying on the coach telling the players what
they need to do, or the coach grabbing the leaders
in and telling them to tell the players.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
It's up to the playing group.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
And I don't know if I see this team, like
some of the other sides, really challenge each other on
the field, have those hard conversations, it doesn't feel like
they're doing it enough.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
In the locker room. You know, I'm hearing and being told.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
That maybe they don't like hearing the feedback this playing group,
and they need to maybe you hear a few things
a bit more and take it on board and actually
understand they've got a long way to go. So I
think that has been part of the issue that maybe
they think they're doing everything right, Maybe they think they're
being hard on.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
One another and hard on themselves.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
But sometimes you need to maybe hear it from others
or see what the great clubs do to realize that
maybe there's still a bit of a gap there.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
And I think that's where it's. Looking at the Blues, all.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
The very best teams that we're ever played in were
the hardest on each other. There's no getting away from that.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
What about you, Gaz, Tom Daconing is droppable right.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Now overaction from mine. I think this comes on the
back of the noise around his contract and the secular interest.
If that's not there at all, then my looking at
time and guarantee he's got to be better. We know
he's got to be better. I mean, all these medits
that we've got here are absolutely right, but he's There's
about twelve that would go before him, I'd think, But
(20:02):
if you dropped him, it'd be more about what's going
on externally. So the challenge for Tom is to get
up and lead on Thursday night and say, let me
right the wrong. The thing is in your great coach,
says your great pass coach. Grant Thomas says this. All
the time you choose, you can choose to be what
you want to be on Thursday night. You can choose
to be down and low on confidence and feeling sorry
(20:25):
for yourself, where you can choose to be a leader
and get up and going. And I want to see
Tom decant and crashing him that first bounce and getting
back to his athletic best and choosing to be what
we've all seen him over the journey, at his very
best from a cart footy clocks.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
They'd like to see someone have a conversation, whether it's
Voss or the captain, say, it doesn't matter what.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Your decision is.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
All we need from you right now is just six
weeks of your very best effort. And then if you
do walk out, you can walk out with your head
out of high or hopefully you stay and we move
on to bigger and better things.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Cut quick.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
He's Michael Voss will be there next year, an easy
one for you.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
That's real. For now. They wouldn't want to ask you
for next year. It's real. I still think right now
he'll be coaching next year. Yeah, I do.
Speaker 6 (21:02):
I think that I would like to see some changes
around him first, to find out whether he can take
the group where he wants to.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I think they look at the football.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
Program, maybe some of the coaches. No doubt the list
needs a freshen up. And next year if he gets
Sam Walsh fully fitting, healthy, Jaggersmith back in there, Elijah Hollins,
hopefully some of his more talented players with some youngsters
and a little rejig, I'd like to give him one
more crack out. And he's contracted, see if he can
do something with the group. If he can't next year,
well then it's a different conversation.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
I think he might be one out or not one out.
But I liked that luck turned opinion.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
That's a different view. Last one for you who Charlie
Kerno has to be better.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Yeah, that's real. Charlie does need to be better, that's true.
And I thought he was better last week. I went
pretty hard on in the week leading up to it,
and I thought he competed harder, got up the ground
and was involved a bit more. But he needs to
be better again. He's you know, some of these decisions.
The coning hit up lead there was the easiest hit
up lead of the night, and he just was thinking
about himself and kicking a goal from outside fifty. But yeah,
(22:00):
I mean this was he had good competition on the weekend.
He took a ten marks. I think, so he just
he needs to be better in a whole heap of
different areas. But he, as I said about the curning,
he needs to be that as well, you know, get
up and be the leader. So you make the choice
willow in self pity or do something about it. And
I reckon, you've heard that before. Let's take a break.
Let's get two of the big players on are going
(22:21):
to be involved in two of the biggest games of
the weekend for the GWS Giants and the Gold Coast Sons.
The Giants take on the Cats they like playing against
them and took Miller late in. They take on the
Pies and what's going to be the biggest game in
their history. So Toby Green took Miller up next
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