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July 16, 2025 21 mins

Catch up on all the footy news from AFL 360, Wednesday 16th of July with Gerard Whateley and Garry Lyon.

Gerard Whateley and Garry Lyon are back for another huge edition of AFL 360, opening with a tribute to North Adelaide icon Barrie Robran, who passed away this morning, aged 77. They then speak to Jake Stringer as he returns to Melbourne to face the Bombers tomorrow night and they end on Essendon’s injury crisis.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Impossible, though it seemed matters have got worse for Essendon.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
The Bombers force into.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Six changes as they prepare for the primetime opener to
round nineteen.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Jade Stringer is making his presence felt as a giant
as he prepares to take on the old mob.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
He joins us at the.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Desk and the last refuge of the September Desperate's our
coaches on the moment, you're telling yourself you're still a
finals chats.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
You talked about. Step into it, embrace all of it,
hit in the room and read it.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
It's unedifying for a senior coach to do that.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
They're on the side of Courtia with the brain, take
the man on it. They played the best footy I've
ever seen at the start of the season.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
And Andrew said, president left the cup of Older said,
of course they do.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
It is the stuff that legends are made of. What
is holding the ball?

Speaker 4 (00:46):
I don't think I could answer it clearly right now
that I could do.

Speaker 5 (00:49):
Something wrong, you know, And I need to get and
the board sexually.

Speaker 6 (00:52):
The fans lover and with no fans no through sixty
year old.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Around nineteen comes in to sight with all its various
angles gazz Hello, Jared, good to see you. There's a
deep sense of mourning in South Australia tonights for the
past scene of a man whom many regard as the
best football of the States ever saw.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Barry Roberin has.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Passed away aged seventy seven. I think the best measure
of his greatness came in two thousand and one when
he was elevated to legend status in the Australian Football
Hall of Fame. And at the time he was the
first to reach legend status who hadn't played any part
of his career in Victoria. And when you look at
his sanfl CV any wonder.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah, Well, a pleasure for me to be reading up
on him today. Obviously I was aware of him. But
seven Best and Fairest in a row, Jared. He won
three McGary medals. He was runner up in his first
year by a vote over all. Before the age of
twenty seven. He played shuel cricket for South Australia. So
I just throwed that into the mix and from everything
I read some great stories today. He put the fairest

(02:02):
in Western Fairest was just played in a pure manner,
got the statue there and is renowned as the best
to come out of Adelaide, and that's always a debatable point,
but no one's suggested he's not in the cornella. His son,
Matthew's two time Premiership player other son John played for
Hawthorne and Adelaide. I think so in moments like this
it is good to go deep on these players that

(02:24):
you're not.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
That familiar with. And by hell, what a football he was.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
In Our sympathies and thoughts are with everyone in Adelaide,
particularly his family.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
That Plaza Gate is our entrance, so every time we
go to Adelaide Oval we pass him by and it's
such a graceful pose and he was clearly such a
graceful footballer. Our legends are such precious figures. So twenty
have now passed and thirteen are living. And in the
thirteen that are living, we've got Kevin Murray, Bob Skilton

(02:53):
and as Alex Jezsolinko, who everyone's thoughts are with and
have been for a little while now.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
This was Andrew Dylan's testaments.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
This is a terribly sad day for South Australian football
as Barry Robin was the outstanding player in a time
when the game was built around state pride and testing
yourselves as state level against the best from around the country.
So all that he did in for North Adelaida and
then what he was able to do in the South
Australian jumper as well.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
So question, actually you may or may not know. I'll
find it the V on the North Adelaide jumper. Do
you know what that represents? Because I was watching, I
was reading and looking at these photos and I thought, hey,
swap jumpers in the state game there?

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Do you know?

Speaker 1 (03:32):
We know?

Speaker 3 (03:32):
No, someone will tell us that they will have that
by the first ad break they will.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
So Barry Robin well remembered right across the football world. Today,
here's what we have for you lined up tonight. John
Lomira and Adam Simpson are together in Sydney. Jake Stringer,
the Desmonic Conte is going to join us as well.
Now it's after midnight in Las Vegas, as we're going
to join Jonathan Brown. On a scale of one to
one hundred and seventy two, how risky is.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
This is a proposition, magnificently risky. Stay tuned.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
I think you just today so with an NRL crew,
if we don't mind with William Mason. He said that
he was on his flight, so I'd stand by. I
think you will present. He'll present well, the great man.
But what a big fight is? What a big fight indeed?

Speaker 1 (04:16):
And then First Crack Preview follows immediately after. Ask J
Clark is here to guide David King and Lee Montagna
through all that they have found in the numbers and
in the vision. As we look towards round nineteen a
D Day who is a D Day fourth thanks to
Bussie Broadband.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
There are a few options. I'm going to lump on
the dockers, so back it up, come over here, take
on the biggest challenge in footy right now and meet
Collingwood at the MCG where it needs to get done.
I thought their performance against Hawthorn was really good and
now they've got to come over.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Set the bar high for yourselfs.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
I mean, I'm sure they're aiming at the top four
spot and in a season that it's up for grabs
this Premiership, then aim high. Their record against top nine
sides good five wins and two losses. But this is
where you get real footy credibility. At the Home of
Football on a Sunday afternoon, so.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
They're tackling pressure. We highlighted on Monday. They're going to
bring that again.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
But don't get too sucked into the contest because balance
against this Collingwood Times teams really important. But it is
the altimate challenge and Justin Longyear spoke on this today.

Speaker 7 (05:18):
There's no bigger challenge in footy. And then going to
the mcg and taking on Collingwood. I understand that you're
able to take on them as the team and the
best team in the comb but you also take on
the occasion and the crowd, and we've spoken about that.
We're going to brace that challenge. There's a good opportunity
to see where footage sits.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
We will find out and I've left it a opening
for you.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
I think you're going to take it the Bulldog, So
we'll be there at the Gabba on Friday nights. They've
already met, they've played and gather around at Norwood. It's
the most fun game of the season that we've had.
Dogs were big leaders, they got run down. Look, we
recounted this on Monday night and it's the number that's
going to sit over the Bulldogs until they take Scalps
on the way and they're one and seven against the

(06:00):
nine teams in contention, they're nine and zero against the.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Bottom half of the ladder.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
They are, so they've got Brisbane, the Giants and Fremantle
on the run in to guarantee themselves a place in
the final, they're going to need to win one of those.
But to have any credibility comes to September, they need
to win multiples there and what a way that would
be to start against the Lions at the Gabba. So
you reference this is when Luke Beveridge sometimes can do
his best coaching. Can he alter what they are?

Speaker 2 (06:28):
And will we.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
See that on Friday night, because that's an unflattering picture
as we measure up the Premiership contenders. Time a senate
right for the Dogs, Luke Beverage has an eye toward
Friday Night.

Speaker 6 (06:40):
As I've said before, in all those games we've been
in them, you know we've been beaten by small margins
against good sites. We know where they've boaten us. What
aspects of the game and what do you put that
down to. There are so many variables in the game
that relate to better opposition just getting you by by

(07:01):
two or three goals. So to play a really rounded
game and really challenge the lines and ultimately booting them
on their own dung hill a huge.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Lift for us.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
You can only rationalize these things for so long. It's
time to get busy for the Bulldog. So we'll be
there Friday night right here on Fox Footy coverage starts
from six point thirty. All right, that sets the agenda
pretty well. Right at the top of it is what
happens tomorrow night six force changes for Essendon as the
injury crisis reaches ludicrous proportions. They have a Giants team

(07:33):
coming and they are massing. They are coming in a
serious way of the Giants, and one of the key
figures is Jake Stringer, who is revealing the possibilities. Stringer
in there, he's having the fun.

Speaker 8 (07:48):
He's it's making a really great contribution, not only hitting scoreboard,
but playing a role and pressuring and a really good tackle.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
In poor pockets where he didn't keep the goal.

Speaker 8 (07:58):
But it's just the side of his and to support
his teammates and really contribute.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
And that's what we love aboutting most of so far. Stringer, Well,
mister John set it up, mister Stringer with.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
The finish Straer Holy Stringer, it'd happen to be heads.

Speaker 8 (08:16):
He's playing a really important role at ball's bobbing up
and kicking some goals. You know that Gold Coast game
a few weeks ago, picking two of the more amazing goals,
you will say.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Right when we needed them.

Speaker 8 (08:27):
Team Possibly, he's coming good at the right top now,
players loving having him as a teammate and really enjoying him.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
This was the possibility when Jake Stringer headed to Sydney
and it is revealing itself. Seven goals in three weeks
and the best performance.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
So far last week.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Jacob's great to have you in Towner's great to have
you on three sixty.

Speaker 5 (08:51):
Welcome, Thank you, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
How are you feeling about your footy over the past
few weeks?

Speaker 5 (08:56):
Really enjoying it.

Speaker 9 (08:57):
Obviously had a little bit of an interrupt to start
to the season, but yeah, the sort of the work
I put in over that period has set me up
for the back half of the year.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Were you were you made to earn it, We're made
to earn your place in this team.

Speaker 5 (09:10):
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 9 (09:11):
I mean as soon as I got there, it was
put on me that hard work and what they do
through the preseason in the first week. I knew straight
away that it was going to be a long preseason
and but you know, credit to the footy club and
how they go about it and all the players, led
by Toby Green. I live with him for the first
four weeks that I was in there, so that really

(09:31):
set the tone for me. Were you nervous going going
up there, Absolutely, yeah, for your.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Footy mortality or just a new environment, or doubts about
whether or not you.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Still could cut it at the level.

Speaker 9 (09:43):
Yeah, probably all of them. I thought I could still
cut it at the level. But obviously going into somewhere
as a thirty year old and you know, I wasn't
super close with anyone really going there, so for them
to get around me the way they did, and to
be honest, it feels like I've been there for a
long time.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Sometimes you just find your right place.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
And I know you had great times at the Western
Bulldogs and you had great times at the Essendon Footy
Club at various stages of your life. It looks it
looks to us from the outside that this is the
right place for you right now.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 9 (10:19):
I think Sydney helps that as a whole and I'm
really enjoying the lifestyle up there. Landed today, had to
put the jumper on straight away. So yeah, it's just
you know, being able to go to the beach every
day if you want to. It's just sort of helps.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Is that the anonymity part of it in that as well?
Because you've been a player of great fascination from the
moment you arrived at the Western Bulldogs.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
And again at Estenton. Now do you get up there.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
You've got bigger names in this side than you who
attract all of the attention. You're always a subject to
fascination with us. But has that been part of it all?

Speaker 5 (10:55):
Yeah, I think definitely.

Speaker 9 (10:58):
But it's just, you know, to be able to to
go sit at the beach and not one person could
you really know you is pretty cool. Feels like you're
in a different part of the world sometimes so and
you sort of got that whole stretch along there which
is so beautiful, so you can sort of go to
any pocket any day.

Speaker 5 (11:15):
I just take the kids and yeah, we love.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
It when you're in a new environment and I imagine
you're just searching for a moment to prove yourself. How
important was the last quarter of that Son's game when
you kick those two goals, which.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Are absolutely pivotal.

Speaker 9 (11:29):
Yeah, I think that was sort of for me, was
the moment it felt like that they were like, okay,
he's here, Like if that makes sense? Yeah, So, I
mean after their game it was probably one of the
better feelings I've had in my time because the boys
will go on nuts about it.

Speaker 5 (11:48):
So yeah, it was pretty cool.

Speaker 9 (11:51):
But you know, to be able to back it up
over the next couple of weeks is also very pivotable
because you know the position we're in at the minute,
we're fighting everyone.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
How is how's the body week after week after week?

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (12:04):
Really good?

Speaker 9 (12:04):
Off a five day break, feeling really good. I don't
know if that helps because we're playing Essendon tomorrow or not,
but yeah, it's I feel like I'm starting to get
into that match mode where week to week starts to
become a bit easier and trainings can stay at.

Speaker 5 (12:19):
A high level.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
We spoke to Adam Monday and you had a couple
of hammies and then you're ill. I think you could
for a while. Then you come back as the sub.
But in a way it might have been a blessing.
It just holds you back a bigs your chance to
put another block of training together and like, six weeks
out you looked, you look fantastic.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
You must be jumping out of your skin. Does that
work for you?

Speaker 5 (12:38):
Yeah, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 9 (12:39):
And that was the thing that Adam was really clear
with after my last hammy. You know, they said I'd
be probably back in two weeks, and so I sort
of got my head around that, and then he was
very quick to sit me down and go, mate, you're
not playing for six weeks and you're going to train
and you're going to train hard.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
How important is to have that clarity for you.

Speaker 9 (12:57):
It was massive because it just gets all that worrying
about coming back to play and then getting the routine
of playing. It just sort of built me to be
able to go, Okay, this is what's required for the
next four weeks. I don't really have to worry about footy.
I can just put my head down, work hard, get
my nutrition right and make sure that, you know, towards
the back end of the year, I'd pay it back

(13:17):
off to him.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
The capacity to do the hard work, which I think
has been one of the questions that has surrounded you
for a while. So the willingness to do it has
clearly been there at the Giants. Have you had moments
where that's been a challenge for you and have you
got Is it sort of really sharp for you.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
At the moment. No, I wouldn't say so.

Speaker 9 (13:36):
I'd say that I've always been pretty hard working in
my time at football. It's just probably being able to
I probably struggled when I couldn't train or if I
was having any injury.

Speaker 5 (13:47):
I'd battle through that and.

Speaker 9 (13:48):
Then get into that vicious cycle of playing injured for
three or four weeks and you're.

Speaker 5 (13:52):
Not training and all that type of stuff.

Speaker 9 (13:55):
That was probably what I struggled the most with was
that getting the continuity right through a whole season. I'd
always have like an interrupted somewhere along the line, and
that sort of pushes you back and back, which I
think that six week break that Adam sort of gave
me to just go, you can train and then we'll
talk about playing after that.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
And what's been the best part of Adam Kingsley for
you so far?

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (14:19):
Just everything.

Speaker 9 (14:20):
You know, he sits you in his office and asks
about life and how the kids are going.

Speaker 5 (14:26):
Heever they settling in.

Speaker 9 (14:28):
But then he's also very quick to tell you what
he needs from you on the weekend, whether you know
that's forward pressure needs to lift, or whether it's leading
or whatever it is. He's just very directing what he
wants and what he expects from you.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
What are you capable of as a team. You're getting
it right. Your record against top sides is really good.
What are you capable of?

Speaker 9 (14:48):
Yeah, I think we're starting to really turn the screws
up a bit. And you know, they've been pretty adamant that,
you know, come the second half of the year, that
was going to happen, and.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
In terms of the way they set the year up.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Yeah, yeah, how's that communicated to you?

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Then you can't say, listen, we're going to come rattling
home in the back y.

Speaker 5 (15:06):
No, no, it's not.

Speaker 9 (15:07):
But it just talks about building the game and building
our game throughout, and I think, yeah, we're starting to
get our game style up and running, and it feels
like the beliefs very high.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
You must be excited about a forward line of Cadman
and Green and McCardy and Bedford and whoever else is
running around down there. I mean, we know Jesse. Jesse's
revealed himself. When you know your history. We know Toby
Aaron Cadman's excitement machine. Right now, what can you tell
us about him? What's his ceiling? How good can he be?

Speaker 5 (15:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (15:43):
Kadz was one of those ones that, like, when I
first got to the Giants, I was probably most what
sort of gone like wow r Yeah he was. In
the preseason, he was dominating, taking big pack marks. And
when we first sort of started playing in the earlier weeks,
I kept saying to Jeremy Laidler, he's our forwards coach.
I'm like, this kid's going to have a game, and like,

(16:06):
when he has that game, that's going to be unbelievable
because I think he's ceiling's huge.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
What's his what's his mindset? Give us a little insight
into that.

Speaker 9 (16:14):
Oh, he's extremely hard working. He works hard every Yeah,
real competitor training and yeah, now he's starting to read
the rewards of all the hard work he's put over
the last few years.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
And the better he plays, the more the best defender
goes to their mates.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
That's good for you.

Speaker 5 (16:30):
I'm more than happy for him to keep kicking goals.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
How are you feeling about playing the old team?

Speaker 7 (16:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (16:35):
Good, really excited, It's obviously Challenge around this week, which
was a close, close game for me. I've been the
ambassador with him for pretty much the best part of
the last eight years, so sort of helped get the
kids in and do all that type of stuff. So
I'm super excited to be able to see that before
the game, but obviously once a ball gets bounced up,

(16:55):
it'll be game on.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Zach Merrett spoke with us last night about the impact
that you'd around this Challenge game, so it obviously had
a really special place in your heart.

Speaker 5 (17:06):
Yeah, it does. Still to this day, it does.

Speaker 9 (17:10):
Getting a little tingles and funny feeling, you know, watching
the boys get to do that because I know how
much it means to the kids and how much tomorrow
it means still and getting to run out and run
through the banner. Yeah, so very proud to obviously be
able to watch that, and a bit sad that I
can't obviously be walking a kid through there.

Speaker 5 (17:31):
But I'll go over and say hello for sure.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Who's the teammate you're most looking forward to a bit
of physical contact with?

Speaker 5 (17:36):
Hopefully me and Jane Laverti are playing on each other.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Fancy that.

Speaker 9 (17:42):
Yeah, I was in his wedding party, so nice, we'll
have a good laugh.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
That's awesome, well done on what you've been able to
do to hear.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
I mean, it is re establishing yourself at a footy
club and you've done that and there's doubts along the
way everywhere, but with six weeks to go, beautifully place.
So congratulations, Hope it's a big day for you tomorrow tomorrow,
and good luck for the rest of you.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Smell good too. What are you wearing tonight?

Speaker 5 (18:07):
No idea natural? Just natural?

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Have you with this?

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Jake Stringer with this on three point sixty? The other
side of the equation, he is Essendon. Zach Merritt here
last night. Brad Scott are training today?

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Are you just.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Absolutely unequivocally putting the bed and saying that's just made
up that stuff?

Speaker 10 (18:25):
Yeah, I'm all in. I'm contracted for two more years.
I'm the captain of the footay club. I've got so
much trust in Brad and what he's doing and I
really want to see that through and that plan through.
The strategy is a bit longer than I probably would
hopefully have liked when I signed four years ago, but
it's pretty clear now. As I said, these kids are
coming through, and yeah, I want to taste that ultimate success.

Speaker 5 (18:45):
With the footy.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
Problem, Zach is as committed and I've talked about his
will to win repeatedly, and he just he just wants
what's best for this football club and he wants success
for his football. He's not the type to jump out
of a leaking ship. He's the type who's fully committed.

(19:07):
And what he said last night is just what I've
always known. So it's no surprise to me, but it's
probably good for others who might ask the questions.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
It feels like a very strong bond between captain and
coach of the moment.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
And he did a good job last night, Zach.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
I mean it's been everyone knows the challenge. It just
gets harder and harder. But I thought he was almost
defiant last night. There's rooms are rumors. I don't know
where they'se come from, but all you can do is
put it to him and he, as Brad said, he
would have give him some great comfort to the essendent fans.
So he gets a few back, that loses a few,
but he gets some experience back in the side.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
So the players that he hasn't been playing are going
to be there. So the quick look at the teams
is for the Giants Kelly and Hogan. Of the two
that were managed is Adam Kingsley sort of hinted that
there were going to be a couple of Tippy's hand
on Hogan, but this is the Essendon side of things.
So injured set of field managed, he's injured, injured Martin,
the injured go I managed gold stand injured statist, which

(20:04):
was an extra one today in Hobbs. But Perkins, Gresham,
Shield and Glfie, who we've all been going, what the hell?

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah, they're all in.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Six hundred and twenty one games of experience coming to
a side that is playing it's thirteenth ebutime.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
So I think that's pointed. I do, I really do.
I think if you're Archie.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Perkins, or Jay Gresham or Dylan or Matt Golfie, then
you've got a six week BLOCKI to do something.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Now you've got an opportunity this weekend. We know the
injury list.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
It's been flashed across every TV screen every time there's
a footy show on, so we understand that.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
But they're in. They've got an opportunity tomorrow night.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
And to say, hang on, I don't know what's where
it's been, or I'm not sure about their whole history,
but there's a six week block to say now I'm
here for the for the whole.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Yeah, that's the play for your career, either here or
currency elsewhere. So you should get four pretty richly motivated veterans.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Well, if you don't, then you get your answer.

Speaker 5 (20:57):
Yeah you do, you do?

Speaker 1 (20:58):
All right, that's the setup for Thursday. Then we're bound
for Sydney next. Adam Simpson has gone to join John Longmire,
so our favorite pairing here on three point sixty, with
their wealth of experience as Premiership players and coaches. What
this time of year represents to those who are in
the mad hustle, to those who are on the fringes,
to those who are desperately catching the life
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.

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