Catch up on all the footy news from AFL 360, Wednesday 2nd July with Gerard Whateley and Jordan Lewis.
North Melbourne prepare to celebrate their 100-year milestone with a special clash against the Bulldogs. Meanwhile, Essendon's injury crisis goes from bad to worse - labelled “a sick joke” by frustrated fans and pundits. Plus, clubs are up in arms over the AFL’s new changes to umpire contact rules, with fears it’s creating more confusion than clarity.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
North Melbourne, decimated by injury for the centenary match tomorrow
nights and facing the Bulldogs lineup that has been merciless
in such circumstances.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I walked down memory Lane. Sim Old Horse revealed the
Dennis Pagan game plan that captured the ninety nine Premiership
and the man the Yanks of dub the great Barrier thief,
fully loving basketball sensation. Dyson Daniels is with us at
the desk.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
We talked about his step into it in brace all
of it in the room and rent it. It's unedifying
for a senior coach to do that.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
They're on the side of Courtia with the brain cape,
the man on They played the best footy I've ever
seen at the start of the season and insid president
left the cup.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I order said, of course they do. Is the stuff
that legends are made of.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
What is holding the ball?
Speaker 5 (00:46):
I don't think I could answer it clearly right now
that I could do something.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Wrong, you know, and I need to get from the board.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Sexual me the fans lover and with no fans, no
through sixty year old got merchandise for you everywhere. Jordie
Libber's two hundred and fiftieth scarf. I feel like this
is choice. Every Kangaroos fan's gonna want the elephant on
(01:12):
the Arden Street.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah, there was a Barry Cheatly.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I love that thing.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
It's I know Barry. I was at Barry's funeral and
the family quite well.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
That was his idea.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I think the least expected piece of football memorabilia is
the Chris Scott bubblehead to mark his three hundred and
fiftieth game in charge of the Cats. George Clooney how many,
if depends how many they can move at the shop
at the cab Shop. He's sixth all time on the
most games at one club, so Jock McHale, Kevin Sheety,
(01:43):
Dick Reynolds, Alistair Clarkson, David Parkin and Chris Scott, and
he's bound to pass at least the next couple on
that list. And he's already gone past Alan Jeans and
Norm Smith, which gives you an idea.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
None of those who've got a bubblehead, None of those
who've got a bubblehead.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
So he's in front of that category right long enough
they get a bubble he'd be quite happy with that.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I think I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Coming up our coaches, John longman Adam Simpson with as
Dison Daniels our special guest tonight. He's in Marlwn Tiger
loving basketball sensation that he is the teams and there's
many a story to tell for tomorrow night in the Teams,
then First Crack Preview, take the Deep Dive. All eighteen
teams are back in action mercifully. So a night towards
Round seventeen. D Day Jordan for Ossie Broadband set us up.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah, I've gone the Giants this week, Jerdy, for a
few reasons. I think it's been well documented the ladder
situation and the Giants are probably the last side that
are hanging on in in equals seventh. They sit ninth
on the ladder but equals seventh with Western Bulldogs and
the gold Co Sons. So each of those three sides
play three the top eight sides on their run home
five of the bottom ten sides.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
So these are the games you need to go on
the road. And when the.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Vision here is from an amazing comeback when they played
the gold Co Sons prior to them having a buy
old final term, so can that carry that momentum over
to the West when they're missing a whole heap of stars,
superstars in this football side in terms of Hogan, Whitfield, wards,
out out, injured, Taylor Daniels.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
This is a game they cannot drop.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
So the points are important and percentage matters a lot
to them.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, well absolutely, especially when you compare them to the
other sides. I think Dogs are around one thirty gold
Coaster sort of one twenties, but the Giants are sitting
about one nine or one eight, so it's just they
just need a bank to four points.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
You're right.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
It's a Friday night doubleheader, so I'll go to the
other side of it is Carlton, So there's lots of
different reasons. There's no escaping the bright lights is there.
They're back on Friday night footy. The exposition has been
pretty brutal in recent times. They're searching for a purpose,
which they'll need to quickly find. There's a chance to
make a stand and a stand against the oldest of rivals.
(03:53):
Can that muster something better than this. I'm sure they'll
be better than this, and they'll need to be quite obviously,
because the benchmark team is Collinwood.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
But it's going to be a huge crowd.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
It's a fully ticketed game, and we know how that
lives in the stands. Can they live up to it?
Can they rise of it when nobody will give them
a chance?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Nobody?
Speaker 1 (04:14):
What's that worth inside the four walls?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I mean, that's the most intriguing game for the first
quarter for me. They've been good in first quarters, Carlton.
Can they try and replicate that form to keep themselves
in this game and just keep the fallout of what
has been in and around that football club a little
bit more stable for a week.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Friday night doubleheader makes sense in some ways with the
second game in Perth, I just feel like we've stolen
defeat from the jaws of victory with the scheduling. So
the MCG game starts at seven twenty and the Perth
game starts at eight ten fifteen minutes, that's six ten
in Perth. You could have given Perth a chopout in
these circumstances and pushed it till seven twenty as well
(04:54):
and opened up a big gap between the two games,
so we could have watched at.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Least the second half.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Captive audience on Friday night is huge just to go
from one game or the other. They're jammed too close
together at fifteen. Did you know why, Well, it's the
consistency of the six to ten timeslot on a Friday night,
except they didn't need to be consistent. The East Coast
is totally sorted. Just push it back to either seven
twenty seven forty or even eight ten local time. We'll
(05:22):
be fine on the East Coast. We'll finish with the
other game and flick over. It's two jammed. I don't
dispute the idea.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
At all, but that is two jammed. I mean it.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
It really defeats the purpose of having two games on
a Friday night. I just can't, for the life of me,
think why these two games would overlap by considerable margins.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I think rugby league.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeh, rugby league do it well, one game into the
next game and then you can you can capture the
audience for two games.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Or again, it is too long to go one into
the other. But there was definitely a way in Perth
use the time zone to your advantage rather than your disadvantage,
instead of rushing everyone in that six ten Perth time
anywayst Year, feed from the jaws of victory, get into
the agenda and it is a ceremonial night sat Marvel
on a Thursday. It marks one hundred years of North
(06:06):
Melbourne in the vfl AFL. It gives us a chance
to think back on all that the club has given
the league and how it has prospered through the years.
Oh no breath around the boundary line, don't drop it.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Really what they've got a pretty predcare.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Of whole on it our chance on Thursday night to
pay tribute to our forefathers that have worn the.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Guernsey, has shaped the club so much and they've passed
out onto us and.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Tempery custodians just looking after the club as best we
possibly can before we passed under the nast.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
A pretty moving moment, brilliant exact.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
It is a privilege for our club to be involved in.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
In North hundred year anniversary game.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
We'll head to the stadium with that awareness.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
That's a pretty special life for the Kangaroos. The Kangars
have won to four. The dremanship worked out, Jazz Pagan.
You deserve everything you've got today and third is your time.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
So I've been around the club, but in terms of
reconnecting with the pass is pretty special.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
So I think we'll see something that on Thursday night.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
We've got no doubt that there'll be plenty of stimulus
for the Kangaroos boys, you know, to meet us head
on in that first quarter, so we've got to be
prepared for it.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
But we're really looking forward to the challenge same we
are going to revel with Semo and Horse.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Historically shortly the game itself Jordan, So Thursday night on
a five day break has done the Kangas no favors.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
They have been hit by injury.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
We sort of flagged that with Elistair Clarks and it
hasn't got much better. Sheesel got there, but nobody else did,
so there are five changes. McDonald, Parker, Darling, Wardlaw and
Fisher has been managed. So they're all out Mainlee, Deurzmer,
Scott Phillips and Cooper Harvey.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
So this is a lovely piece of symmetry.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
The son of the game's record holder who's played three
games back in twenty twenty three, he's going to be
there for the show piece occasion. And the Bulldogs have
been hit by a bit of illness. They've got three changes,
a couple of them forced Davidson and Harms. Both ill
and Karmas has been omitted having played as the sub
Duray Garcia and Poulter. The Bulldogs are unbeaten against bottom
(08:39):
nine teams. They have decimated in some of them, so
the Kings are going to have to find something otherworldly.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I think, yeah, this is going to be huge tasks,
There's no doubt about that. That's a lot of experience
that goes out of his side from their previous match,
which you know you don't want leading into these games.
But I think, I think the stuff that surround these games,
it's more about celebrating the week. So take the week
to celebrate, take.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
The pregame to celebrate.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yes, if North Melbourne can be competitive during the game,
that's that's a big tick. And you know all the
fans that go to this game would be pleased with that.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
It's a huge task.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
You can't deny that fact. So enjoy soak it up
every bit of the of the celebrations that happened throughout
the week.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I mean I watched a lot of Friday night footy.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Meaning from the country, it was really the only game
you watched. So this was a famous a famous football club.
The history is so rich and some of those memories
we show before really vivid for me, even though I'm a.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Collingwood supporter and was a Collingwood sporters.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
And the dogs have got their own with livers two
fiftieth term on or one of their favorite sons, so
they'll be Luke Beverige will be able to get something
out of that to combat what's coming the other way,
and we'll probably cross our fingers and hope that we
get some sort of spectacle. And you're right, we'll revel
in what happens beforehand and probably what happens afterwards, and
a little bit of trepidation for the game itself.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I reckon the side of things. So this has become
macarb almost.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
It's Dello's humor. It's a sick joke the level of
injury that the Bombers are enduring. We know what happened
during the by training session with three players with soft
tissue injuries and another one sent for scans today. If
it didn't make you laugh, it'd make you cry.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Well clearly, club why I do a lot of work
and investigation into what's happening, as all clubs do on
a regular basis, and we do that as an ongoing
matter of process.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
What does an investigation entail though, is that sort of
into high performance.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
No, it's not an investigation as I use the word investigation,
but it's like we're always investigating. We investigate postgame, we
investigate the way we play, we investigate our processes. You know,
whenever there's an injury, you know, we investigate the causes
of that.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
So Zach Reid was the latest today to be sent
for cautionary scans on a hamstring after training session, and
that has a really serious edge with him. But we're
about to put the list up and will disappear behind it.
I mean it is a crisis stage.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah, it's certainly not what you want as a coach.
And a lot of those as you can see either
up and coming players who just need to get continuity
and games into them before they can be a serious
football team.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
So that hurts.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
They've used forty players this year, which is the most
in the AFL. They sit third on the injury list.
The've lost one hundred and twenty six games through injury.
So you add those two things up, it's really hard
to compete at the top level when you are a
young and relatively inexperienced team. So yeah, I think you know,
when injuries keep piling up like they do, there has
(11:45):
to be an inquiry is such into why these players
have managed and the training facilities and what they do externally.
Everything that a professional athlete needs to go right needs
to be looked at.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah, you can't let it become self defeating, because right
now it is self defeating. So yeah, whatever is to
be found needs to be and they are going to
endure this for the rest of the season.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
It's not a season.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
They were going to rise sharply and they've got their
cachet of draft picks, so perversely it probably suits them
in the draft wherever they land. He's coached the ears
off them all year to get the wins that they have,
and we'll see what happens next. You said here last night,
we'd been told about the umpire contacts crackdown, and we
explored the implications of that. Your instincts are dead right
(12:31):
talking to clubs around the competition today. Just my radio
producer Oli today likened it to suddenly attaching Demerit points
to parking fines with no warning and then applying them retrospectively.
So the little sequence of events is in September at
the rules summit which clubs and players were invited to.
(12:52):
Those from Clubland when confronted with this said, fines won't work.
You need to pay free kicks. There was a reticence
and guess what. The finds didn't work. And now we've
watched the numbers spike. But those who are coppying the
fines will tell you it's because.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
The threshold has lowered. And then we went back through.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
So he showed you the names last night we went back.
So these are the players who are in instant jeopardy.
There are nine of them having completed the work. Matt
row George Shewitt, Jack McCrae, Jordan Dawson, Zach Butter's, Harley Reid,
Adam Cherer, Willem Drew and Hunter Clark.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
So midfield bulls in the most part. And then we looked,
so what is the threshold and this is the one
we found you you might not have seen, you've seen it.
So this is Matt Rowl and Toby Green. You play
the game at home and work out who got fined
for this.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Top of screen, So Unpire steps on Toby Green's foot,
gold Coaster awarded the free kick, and this is Matt
Row's umpire contact, which means he's got a fourth umpire
contact and a five thousand dollars fine. So when you
speak about the threshold, that is not what I think
(14:01):
umpire contact is. Firstly, he didn't even contact. He didn't
push Toby Green.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Into the umpire.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
So there's so much wrong with that particular instance from
my point of view, and the clubs and players have
got absolute right, I think, to be angered by this
one because of the surprising nature.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
But to the.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Threshold that doesn't warrant maybe a free kick, but certainly
not a fine and a potential suspension. Once again, I'll
go back to it. If this happens on prelim final
and the threshold is at that level and he misses
a Grand Final because of that, we don't let it
get to.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Believe that that couldn't happen. But this is the risk
and the oblique nature of what has been done. I
think there's a feeling that the AFL opened a schism
with its umpiring department through the events of Perth, which
they hopelessly mishandled, and this is a bit of This
has been a long term issue for the umpires and
it's serious for them. I think there's a fear you
think this is the AFL putting their arm around.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Sorry, sorry about what happens early on.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
We've got this overdue issue which we're now going to confront.
But it's the players who get caught in it on
a low threshold, right all right, just before we get
Simon and Horse to reminisce we did last night, Dom
Sheed's acknowledged he departs the game and Jeremy McGovern a
couple of weeks ago and their premiership coach is Adam Simpson.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
So a quick word here, welcome you go this Lethals.
He's got a throne.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
You spoke so beautifully about Jeremy McGovern. What does Dom
Sheed mean to you? As the player who kicked the
bug goal?
Speaker 4 (15:32):
I'm probably not sitting here without him, So a special
connection we got My first year was his first year.
So who's the first pick in the draft? Think pick
eleven in the thirteen draft. I've been there for two months,
so no real idea about the draft and the talent
coming through. So and sometimes we lean towards wa selections
as well, So we pick up Dom as a wasn't
(15:56):
a smooth first three or four years. Actually in the
eighteen season was playing reserves football through form and after
what happened to gaffe when he got rubbed out for
eight weeks and had become a spot available for a
particular role and he came in and he never looked back.
So it would have been a really interesting discussion if
Gaffie was available coming into that game.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
How good a kick is this?
Speaker 4 (16:19):
I wasn't surprised, and I don't know why I was,
just He's kicked a lot of goals, probably from the
other side. The race at Subiaco was exactly there, and
we can't get him off the track, and then when
they come on the track, we can't get him on
to do proper skills of just having shots from that pocket.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
So if it was ever going to be a pocket,
it would be that one.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
And yeah, look we started talking about if he kicks
the goal, what are we doing? And I wasn't even
watching it at the time. So and we kicked so
many points before I remembers the eight en Grand five
must kick six or seven points from easy spots.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
So yeah, special kick and the way that it was.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Captured right high and the Collingwood fans, who I think
there's one guy in the crowd ends up doing there
you got us, and then he has done at least
one hundred and fifty cashies.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
No doubt it's started.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Oh he is cashed in on that story goes forty
five minutes and it's absolutely he got.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
The keys to Cawgooley, which I'm not sure quite sure
you get. You get a sheep or something for it,
and it's just such a quality. Persons stayed as humble
as you can possibly be after achieving something like that,
So one hundred and sixty five games and remembered for
one particular player that made so many people happy.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yep, perfect, all right, come and join us out of
the desk. Wool reminisce over the Kangaroo's days through one
hundred years as they come with this ceremonial match tomorrow night.
All that has been in Simo and Horse lived a
big part of that together. There's comrades in the Blue
and Whites Premiership colleagues before they went their separate ways
and coaching favor appearing here.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
I'm three sixteen, I got the cold inside.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Yeah, come in, r a pledge, you can eat the
poll out run.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
I want it all because i'm
North Melbourne, decimated by injury for the centenary match tomorrow
nights and facing the Bulldogs lineup that has been merciless
in such circumstances.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I walked down memory Lane. Sim Old Horse revealed the
Dennis Pagan game plan that captured the ninety nine Premiership
and the man the Yanks of dub the great Barrier thief,
fully loving basketball sensation. Dyson Daniels is with us at
the desk.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
We talked about his step into it in brace all
of it in the room and rent it. It's unedifying
for a senior coach to do that.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
They're on the side of Courtia with the brain cape,
the man on They played the best footy I've ever
seen at the start of the season and insid president
left the cup.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I order said, of course they do. Is the stuff
that legends are made of.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
What is holding the ball?
Speaker 5 (00:46):
I don't think I could answer it clearly right now
that I could do something.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Wrong, you know, and I need to get from the board.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Sexual me the fans lover and with no fans, no
through sixty year old got merchandise for you everywhere. Jordie
Libber's two hundred and fiftieth scarf. I feel like this
is choice. Every Kangaroos fan's gonna want the elephant on
(01:12):
the Arden Street.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah, there was a Barry Cheatly.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I love that thing.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
It's I know Barry. I was at Barry's funeral and
the family quite well.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
That was his idea.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I think the least expected piece of football memorabilia is
the Chris Scott bubblehead to mark his three hundred and
fiftieth game in charge of the Cats. George Clooney how many,
if depends how many they can move at the shop
at the cab Shop. He's sixth all time on the
most games at one club, so Jock McHale, Kevin Sheety,
(01:43):
Dick Reynolds, Alistair Clarkson, David Parkin and Chris Scott, and
he's bound to pass at least the next couple on
that list. And he's already gone past Alan Jeans and
Norm Smith, which gives you an idea.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
None of those who've got a bubblehead, None of those
who've got a bubblehead.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
So he's in front of that category right long enough
they get a bubble he'd be quite happy with that.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I think I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Coming up our coaches, John longman Adam Simpson with as
Dison Daniels our special guest tonight. He's in Marlwn Tiger
loving basketball sensation that he is the teams and there's
many a story to tell for tomorrow night in the Teams,
then First Crack Preview, take the Deep Dive. All eighteen
teams are back in action mercifully. So a night towards
Round seventeen. D Day Jordan for Ossie Broadband set us up.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah, I've gone the Giants this week, Jerdy, for a
few reasons. I think it's been well documented the ladder
situation and the Giants are probably the last side that
are hanging on in in equals seventh. They sit ninth
on the ladder but equals seventh with Western Bulldogs and
the gold Co Sons. So each of those three sides
play three the top eight sides on their run home
five of the bottom ten sides.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
So these are the games you need to go on
the road. And when the.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Vision here is from an amazing comeback when they played
the gold Co Sons prior to them having a buy
old final term, so can that carry that momentum over
to the West when they're missing a whole heap of stars,
superstars in this football side in terms of Hogan, Whitfield, wards,
out out, injured, Taylor Daniels.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
This is a game they cannot drop.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
So the points are important and percentage matters a lot
to them.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, well absolutely, especially when you compare them to the
other sides. I think Dogs are around one thirty gold
Coaster sort of one twenties, but the Giants are sitting
about one nine or one eight, so it's just they
just need a bank to four points.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
You're right.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
It's a Friday night doubleheader, so I'll go to the
other side of it is Carlton, So there's lots of
different reasons. There's no escaping the bright lights is there.
They're back on Friday night footy. The exposition has been
pretty brutal in recent times. They're searching for a purpose,
which they'll need to quickly find. There's a chance to
make a stand and a stand against the oldest of rivals.
(03:53):
Can that muster something better than this. I'm sure they'll
be better than this, and they'll need to be quite obviously,
because the benchmark team is Collinwood.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
But it's going to be a huge crowd.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
It's a fully ticketed game, and we know how that
lives in the stands. Can they live up to it?
Can they rise of it when nobody will give them
a chance?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Nobody?
Speaker 1 (04:14):
What's that worth inside the four walls?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I mean, that's the most intriguing game for the first
quarter for me. They've been good in first quarters, Carlton.
Can they try and replicate that form to keep themselves
in this game and just keep the fallout of what
has been in and around that football club a little
bit more stable for a week.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Friday night doubleheader makes sense in some ways with the
second game in Perth, I just feel like we've stolen
defeat from the jaws of victory with the scheduling. So
the MCG game starts at seven twenty and the Perth
game starts at eight ten fifteen minutes, that's six ten
in Perth. You could have given Perth a chopout in
these circumstances and pushed it till seven twenty as well
(04:54):
and opened up a big gap between the two games,
so we could have watched at.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Least the second half.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Captive audience on Friday night is huge just to go
from one game or the other. They're jammed too close
together at fifteen. Did you know why, Well, it's the
consistency of the six to ten timeslot on a Friday night,
except they didn't need to be consistent. The East Coast
is totally sorted. Just push it back to either seven
twenty seven forty or even eight ten local time. We'll
(05:22):
be fine on the East Coast. We'll finish with the
other game and flick over. It's two jammed. I don't
dispute the idea.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
At all, but that is two jammed. I mean it.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
It really defeats the purpose of having two games on
a Friday night. I just can't, for the life of me,
think why these two games would overlap by considerable margins.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I think rugby league.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeh, rugby league do it well, one game into the
next game and then you can you can capture the
audience for two games.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Or again, it is too long to go one into
the other. But there was definitely a way in Perth
use the time zone to your advantage rather than your disadvantage,
instead of rushing everyone in that six ten Perth time
anywayst Year, feed from the jaws of victory, get into
the agenda and it is a ceremonial night sat Marvel
on a Thursday. It marks one hundred years of North
(06:06):
Melbourne in the vfl AFL. It gives us a chance
to think back on all that the club has given
the league and how it has prospered through the years.
Oh no breath around the boundary line, don't drop it.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Really what they've got a pretty predcare.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Of whole on it our chance on Thursday night to
pay tribute to our forefathers that have worn the.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Guernsey, has shaped the club so much and they've passed
out onto us and.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Tempery custodians just looking after the club as best we
possibly can before we passed under the nast.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
A pretty moving moment, brilliant exact.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
It is a privilege for our club to be involved in.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
In North hundred year anniversary game.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
We'll head to the stadium with that awareness.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
That's a pretty special life for the Kangaroos. The Kangars
have won to four. The dremanship worked out, Jazz Pagan.
You deserve everything you've got today and third is your time.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
So I've been around the club, but in terms of
reconnecting with the pass is pretty special.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
So I think we'll see something that on Thursday night.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
We've got no doubt that there'll be plenty of stimulus
for the Kangaroos boys, you know, to meet us head
on in that first quarter, so we've got to be
prepared for it.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
But we're really looking forward to the challenge same we
are going to revel with Semo and Horse.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Historically shortly the game itself Jordan, So Thursday night on
a five day break has done the Kangas no favors.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
They have been hit by injury.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
We sort of flagged that with Elistair Clarks and it
hasn't got much better. Sheesel got there, but nobody else did,
so there are five changes. McDonald, Parker, Darling, Wardlaw and
Fisher has been managed. So they're all out Mainlee, Deurzmer,
Scott Phillips and Cooper Harvey.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
So this is a lovely piece of symmetry.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
The son of the game's record holder who's played three
games back in twenty twenty three, he's going to be
there for the show piece occasion. And the Bulldogs have
been hit by a bit of illness. They've got three changes,
a couple of them forced Davidson and Harms. Both ill
and Karmas has been omitted having played as the sub
Duray Garcia and Poulter. The Bulldogs are unbeaten against bottom
(08:39):
nine teams. They have decimated in some of them, so
the Kings are going to have to find something otherworldly.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I think, yeah, this is going to be huge tasks,
There's no doubt about that. That's a lot of experience
that goes out of his side from their previous match,
which you know you don't want leading into these games.
But I think, I think the stuff that surround these games,
it's more about celebrating the week. So take the week
to celebrate, take.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
The pregame to celebrate.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yes, if North Melbourne can be competitive during the game,
that's that's a big tick. And you know all the
fans that go to this game would be pleased with that.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
It's a huge task.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
You can't deny that fact. So enjoy soak it up
every bit of the of the celebrations that happened throughout
the week.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I mean I watched a lot of Friday night footy.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Meaning from the country, it was really the only game
you watched. So this was a famous a famous football club.
The history is so rich and some of those memories
we show before really vivid for me, even though I'm a.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Collingwood supporter and was a Collingwood sporters.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
And the dogs have got their own with livers two
fiftieth term on or one of their favorite sons, so
they'll be Luke Beverige will be able to get something
out of that to combat what's coming the other way,
and we'll probably cross our fingers and hope that we
get some sort of spectacle. And you're right, we'll revel
in what happens beforehand and probably what happens afterwards, and
a little bit of trepidation for the game itself.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I reckon the side of things. So this has become
macarb almost.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
It's Dello's humor. It's a sick joke the level of
injury that the Bombers are enduring. We know what happened
during the by training session with three players with soft
tissue injuries and another one sent for scans today. If
it didn't make you laugh, it'd make you cry.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Well clearly, club why I do a lot of work
and investigation into what's happening, as all clubs do on
a regular basis, and we do that as an ongoing
matter of process.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
What does an investigation entail though, is that sort of
into high performance.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
No, it's not an investigation as I use the word investigation,
but it's like we're always investigating. We investigate postgame, we
investigate the way we play, we investigate our processes. You know,
whenever there's an injury, you know, we investigate the causes
of that.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
So Zach Reid was the latest today to be sent
for cautionary scans on a hamstring after training session, and
that has a really serious edge with him. But we're
about to put the list up and will disappear behind it.
I mean it is a crisis stage.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah, it's certainly not what you want as a coach.
And a lot of those as you can see either
up and coming players who just need to get continuity
and games into them before they can be a serious
football team.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
So that hurts.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
They've used forty players this year, which is the most
in the AFL. They sit third on the injury list.
The've lost one hundred and twenty six games through injury.
So you add those two things up, it's really hard
to compete at the top level when you are a
young and relatively inexperienced team. So yeah, I think you know,
when injuries keep piling up like they do, there has
(11:45):
to be an inquiry is such into why these players
have managed and the training facilities and what they do externally.
Everything that a professional athlete needs to go right needs
to be looked at.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah, you can't let it become self defeating, because right
now it is self defeating. So yeah, whatever is to
be found needs to be and they are going to
endure this for the rest of the season.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
It's not a season.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
They were going to rise sharply and they've got their
cachet of draft picks, so perversely it probably suits them
in the draft wherever they land. He's coached the ears
off them all year to get the wins that they have,
and we'll see what happens next. You said here last night,
we'd been told about the umpire contacts crackdown, and we
explored the implications of that. Your instincts are dead right
(12:31):
talking to clubs around the competition today. Just my radio
producer Oli today likened it to suddenly attaching Demerit points
to parking fines with no warning and then applying them retrospectively.
So the little sequence of events is in September at
the rules summit which clubs and players were invited to.
(12:52):
Those from Clubland when confronted with this said, fines won't work.
You need to pay free kicks. There was a reticence
and guess what. The finds didn't work. And now we've
watched the numbers spike. But those who are coppying the
fines will tell you it's because.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
The threshold has lowered. And then we went back through.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
So he showed you the names last night we went back.
So these are the players who are in instant jeopardy.
There are nine of them having completed the work. Matt
row George Shewitt, Jack McCrae, Jordan Dawson, Zach Butter's, Harley Reid,
Adam Cherer, Willem Drew and Hunter Clark.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
So midfield bulls in the most part. And then we looked,
so what is the threshold and this is the one
we found you you might not have seen, you've seen it.
So this is Matt Rowl and Toby Green. You play
the game at home and work out who got fined
for this.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Top of screen, So Unpire steps on Toby Green's foot,
gold Coaster awarded the free kick, and this is Matt
Row's umpire contact, which means he's got a fourth umpire
contact and a five thousand dollars fine. So when you
speak about the threshold, that is not what I think
(14:01):
umpire contact is. Firstly, he didn't even contact. He didn't
push Toby Green.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Into the umpire.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
So there's so much wrong with that particular instance from
my point of view, and the clubs and players have
got absolute right, I think, to be angered by this
one because of the surprising nature.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
But to the.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Threshold that doesn't warrant maybe a free kick, but certainly
not a fine and a potential suspension. Once again, I'll
go back to it. If this happens on prelim final
and the threshold is at that level and he misses
a Grand Final because of that, we don't let it
get to.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Believe that that couldn't happen. But this is the risk
and the oblique nature of what has been done. I
think there's a feeling that the AFL opened a schism
with its umpiring department through the events of Perth, which
they hopelessly mishandled, and this is a bit of This
has been a long term issue for the umpires and
it's serious for them. I think there's a fear you
think this is the AFL putting their arm around.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Sorry, sorry about what happens early on.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
We've got this overdue issue which we're now going to confront.
But it's the players who get caught in it on
a low threshold, right all right, just before we get
Simon and Horse to reminisce we did last night, Dom
Sheed's acknowledged he departs the game and Jeremy McGovern a
couple of weeks ago and their premiership coach is Adam Simpson.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
So a quick word here, welcome you go this Lethals.
He's got a throne.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
You spoke so beautifully about Jeremy McGovern. What does Dom
Sheed mean to you? As the player who kicked the
bug goal?
Speaker 4 (15:32):
I'm probably not sitting here without him, So a special
connection we got My first year was his first year.
So who's the first pick in the draft? Think pick
eleven in the thirteen draft. I've been there for two months,
so no real idea about the draft and the talent
coming through. So and sometimes we lean towards wa selections
as well, So we pick up Dom as a wasn't
(15:56):
a smooth first three or four years. Actually in the
eighteen season was playing reserves football through form and after
what happened to gaffe when he got rubbed out for
eight weeks and had become a spot available for a
particular role and he came in and he never looked back.
So it would have been a really interesting discussion if
Gaffie was available coming into that game.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
How good a kick is this?
Speaker 4 (16:19):
I wasn't surprised, and I don't know why I was,
just He's kicked a lot of goals, probably from the
other side. The race at Subiaco was exactly there, and
we can't get him off the track, and then when
they come on the track, we can't get him on
to do proper skills of just having shots from that pocket.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
So if it was ever going to be a pocket,
it would be that one.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
And yeah, look we started talking about if he kicks
the goal, what are we doing? And I wasn't even
watching it at the time. So and we kicked so
many points before I remembers the eight en Grand five
must kick six or seven points from easy spots.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
So yeah, special kick and the way that it was.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Captured right high and the Collingwood fans, who I think
there's one guy in the crowd ends up doing there
you got us, and then he has done at least
one hundred and fifty cashies.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
No doubt it's started.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Oh he is cashed in on that story goes forty
five minutes and it's absolutely he got.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
The keys to Cawgooley, which I'm not sure quite sure
you get. You get a sheep or something for it,
and it's just such a quality. Persons stayed as humble
as you can possibly be after achieving something like that,
So one hundred and sixty five games and remembered for
one particular player that made so many people happy.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yep, perfect, all right, come and join us out of
the desk. Wool reminisce over the Kangaroo's days through one
hundred years as they come with this ceremonial match tomorrow night.
All that has been in Simo and Horse lived a
big part of that together. There's comrades in the Blue
and Whites Premiership colleagues before they went their separate ways
and coaching favor appearing here.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
I'm three sixteen, I got the cold inside.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Yeah, come in, r a pledge, you can eat the
poll out run.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
I want it all because i'm
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