Catch up on all the footy news from AFL 360, Monday the 18th of August with Gerard Whateley and Garry Lyon.
On AFL 360, Gerard and Robbo break down a massive weekend of footy headlines - starting with St Kilda locking in their superstar target and how this affects their salary cap. The boys then dive into Fremantle’s nightmare loss to Brisbane and ask the big question: are their finals hopes suddenly under serious threat? They also unpack Collingwood’s heartbreaking thriller against Adelaide and the momentum shift heading into September. Plus, all the latest around the Rankine drama and what it means for the Crows and the league going forward.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I might be swimming against the side I'm saying Nassiah
is staying at Saint Kilda and will sign a contract
and stay in the saith.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Is that that.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Would change things immeasurably.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Just roll the table. Sometimes you've just got.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
To have a little bit of faith. Nassiah Wang. Andy
Miller assigns the biggest deal in fully.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
History as the Saints retain.
Speaker 5 (00:25):
Their man adelaiembracing for a suspension that will jeopardize Isaac
Rankins's finals campaign as an investigation continues, and the coaches who.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Are double books for the final rounds, Damien Hardwick and
Brad Scott's on the two game challenge.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
We talked about his step into it, embrace all of it.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
In the room and Pat it's unedifying for a senior
coach to do that.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
They're on the side of Courtia with the brain, hate
the man on.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
They played the best footy I've ever seen at the
start of the season, and Into said the president left
the couple order said, of course they do.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
After the legends are made.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Of what is holding them all? I don't think I
could answer it clearly right now.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I could do something wrong, you know, and I need
to go and the boards, actually the fans lover and
with no fans, no through sixty your own.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
There is a whole industry dedicated to monitoring these trades,
and you've just trampled in and dezump them.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
All that hard, Jared, I told you last week. I
don't know what Ralfie and Tom Morris and those boys
are worried about. I'm probably have to take your ward
when the awards comes.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Into emarcation disputs all over the place here.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
That's great news.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
That's a big, big day for the security food you gab.
We'll dive into it in a big ways. I was
thrilled to hear it, though.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
It is great.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
It's a news heavy day, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
This is all we've got lined up Tonight's our coaches,
Damien Hardwick and Brad Scott, who are going to finish
the season playing against each other on Wednesday week.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Lee Matthews is here to join our regular.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Quartets on the couch tomorrow and our players locking eels
out until the final series.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Zach Merritt will find.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Out shortly whether he'll be back to play Game two
fifty on Thursday night. Ray Chamblin has been studying the
crow throw and how we've got ourselves here where we used.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
To do this and now as sort of anything.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Goes real overreaction. And Wednesday night, our favorite pairing, John
Longmire and Adam Simpson will have Danes Orco as he
reaches game three hundred.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
What a journey that's been.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
And Libby Birch is stepping into the specky McGee markets.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I welcome her.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I welcome her in her book, to the to the Brethren.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Our Monday Night start with the awarding of the GVPS,
the most thrilling award there is in forty and the
most coveted amongst the players. The prize, as we've told
you throughout the year, is provided by Ford. It is
the Mustang GT Fastback, valued at ninety three thousand dollars,
Iconic design, unreal performance, five liter, the eight engine. It
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goes like a dream, and it is being fiercely contested
right now.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
No fear of favor. I didn't even look at the
school boards. I don't know whether these are going to
have any impact on it or not.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I don't think Harry Sheesel was in contention, but he
couldn't be denied.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
He couldn't be denied. After a fifty four game, fifty
four possession game. It was unbelievable. Actually played so well.
He just carved the game to pieces.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
So fifty four touches gets Harry a touch and you know,
when we're doing the GVP in five ten years time,
wouldn't be surprised if this man's driving in one jured
because he's got all the ability, all the talent.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
People are in a hurry for him to dominate the game.
He'll get there, don't you worry about that.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I like the way they've coached him start even half back.
There's no rush to throw these bokes through the middle.
You get them there eventually, and when they get there
they have days like that.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
So well done.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
That too was good for the soul because he's had
his battles this year and there he was at his.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Two goals as well. Zach Bailey started at all on
Friday night. He gets too much to the Brisbane line,
so no lock. He heil through that midfield coming up
against the Freemantle Dockers, Sarong and Brasure and the like.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
And I looked in there and went, well that's different.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Zach Baalley is in there should have kicked three goals
in the first fift minutes from the middle of the ground.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
He kicked two. Set them alight.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
And he's just he's a bit indicative of this football club,
to be honest. They got depth everywhere, so they've He's
probably been sitting out there on r Forard flanks saying
get me in, get me in, and Fags put him
in there and he dominated. And then an old bloke,
well the name of Jack Gunstan says this, give us
seven on the mcg and I'll get the sixty and
it will make it look very, very simple.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
So this was it was pure What.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
A season he's having was a thirty three year old.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I'm going to have a little bit more to say
on him a little later in the show, but I mean,
what a season. And I just put my hand in there.
I didn't say it and I didn't ride it. I
almost did. I was going to be hyper hypercritical of
awthought at the start of the year. So this is
one of those where you fall on the sword when
you didn't even declare it.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I thought he was gone for all money. So well
done to Jack Gunson.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
What a renaissance that it should lead all the way
to the All Australian team as well. So these are
the GVPS. Our leaders remain tied on nine. Patrick Danersfield,
Isaac h and Matt Rowel, Toby Green, Jesse Hogan within
striking distance and the rest are going to need to
play finals.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
He's a mover. Didn't know that mud be plenty to
come on that front.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
All right, let's get into the agenda. At the top
of the biggest contract news of the season, he'd become
the most talked about player over the past month. The
Sara Wanganeen Miller committing to two more years at some
Kilda with a contract the likes of which we've never
seen and Harriet Hill have the honor.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I've announcing it to the Saints.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
He's got an announced with land Spring Sury.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
We've got some news and Paris been working very hard.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Behind the scenes and Harry's going to tell everyone the news.
Can you say so?
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Who's saying?
Speaker 6 (05:45):
Can you say the name?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (05:50):
It was only about last week and I fully made
up my decision when my parents were both in Melbourne.
So yeah, it's basically when I told him.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
From this day, we love Harriet.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
Relationships I have here for a huge in my decision
and played a huge part in it. And yeah, I
just felt like it wasn't right to leave for me personally,
the friendships I've created and wanted to achieve something specially
with them, There'd be nothing, no better feeling than doing
that with them. And yeah, they great relationships here and
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I love all the boys.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Nothing mattered more than this for some Kilda and they're faithful.
They've been tortured by it for this past month as
he has fully grown into this player, wondering will he
be ours? Or he truly hadn't made up his mind.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
It didn't bear thinking what would happen if he left.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
That's as excited as I am or we are. Some
Kilda fans are over the moon. Him not committing and
going elsewhere was that was a that's an even nearly
bigger story, because then we go, we'll have's Tom Deakerney
going to fit into the football if in fact he goes,
which it looks like, is how's he going to go
in there? And how's he going to be received? And
then you know the other players who are said to
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have been a bit unsettled with the way it's all unplayed,
So that is all gone now, so you can park
that and now it's you wait till we get him
and you won't leave wanders in and then who else
will come and recommit? So yeah, the alternative wasn't worth
thinking about. But he's done now and it's it's great
news at a big price.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, at two million dollars big price.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
So if negotiations seven, I know, if negotiations started in
the high eight, say in January, this is the season
that he has played. As to commands, two million dollars,
we have moved very quickly from one point three million
to two million in this industry, a.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Question about that.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
So in the end, that's for the secure footy club
to manage, and we'll have questions on that. The supporters
don't care about the stalarycap. That's the bottom line. And
this is a supporter group of you know, had one
premiership to celebrate. It's been lean, it looked it could
go one way or the other. So they don't care
about that. They don't worry about how they're going to
fit you form me in potentially into two players into
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a salary cap. But it is a challenge and it's
interesting how it's going to play out, But yeah, I reckon,
I reckon. He's gone up half a million bucks in
four weeks.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Yep, after the Melbourne game, and then strength to strength,
He's evolution throughout the season. He was the finest ball
using half back flanker, and then he went into the
middle and became a top ten player in the competition.
And by the way, when games are on the line,
he'll just pop forward and win you're the match. So
he's become that triple threat in what six weeks and goalkicker.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
So he's top probably top five player in the competition
right now, and that's what those books are going to earn.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
What about the notion of twenty percent of a cap
being taken up by two players if Tom Mconing goes there,
as we all imagine.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Well this to be perply honest.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I've never dived into it, but I would imagine it's
been done before. You know, if you've got a ten
million dollar salary cap, which it was not so long ago,
that's two million bucks out of which seems even worse.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
You'd have to ask the relpies of the world who
understand how it all works. But I think Gubby and say,
let's get this thing done and then we'll sort the backhand.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Out and I hold them all together.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Out, hold them together.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Yeah, if we're going to run end the couple along
the way, and if a few noses get put out
a joint and then so be it. All that matters
is you've got them together. Windegether roommate stays hopefully. I
can't imagine him turning around and leaving, can you, Jack Sink?
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Sorry?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Calen Milke committed and then you know the captain, So
I think, yeah, sort out that other stuff later, leave
that to the boffins and the footay coach.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Ross Lyon's pretty damn happy.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
He's the centerpiece of the rebuild, that's for sure, and
we've seen that so often. Think in these moments right now,
deliver against it all. The way he's played this season
is to just feel like a good decision. Do you
think I do?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I do? Even at the price. This is one of
those ones.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Where you pay what needs to be paid and then
figure the rest out afterwards.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
That's the best of it.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
The worst of the news out of the round is
the savage fallout from Saturday Night that centers on Isaac
Rankin who is tonight the source of an AFL integrity
investigation which is reaching its endpoint, and the likelihood is
a suspension that will end his season comes from headquarters tomorrow.
He stayed away from the Crows today, I think for
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reasons that are understandable. It did leave his teammates to
face the questions.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I mean, it's not ideal, but it's obviously in the
AFL's hands.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
And all that they've investigated and see what happens.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
Be worried about. I guess potential big band fires that
could mean for the finals campaign.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I mean, like I said, we'll wait and see, but
we'll leave it up to.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
The AFL to go through what they have to go through.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
There's another incident like this speak to a cultural issue
within the AFL.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
No, I don't think so.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Yes, yeah, it's definitely not ideal, is it. But yeah,
we'll work through stuff, and yeah, we've got a game
this week, so we'll focus on that.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
This has been a scourge of the competition for a
year and a half now. It's Andrew Dillons absolute passion
project to stamp this out of the game and the
intrusion of a word which has no place in common use,
and it didn't feel like I'd heard it for twenty
years before. It has started to flow in here the
sequence of events. So it was a tense night. It
was physically planning close quarters and Rankin was involved at
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various stages in pitted battles with Isaac Quanor, which then
spilled to other opponents. The players on the field were
well aware of what had been said, and yesterday Collinwood
contacted Adelaide to inform them of what was known. Adelaide
then handed it over to the AFL Integrity Unit, who
have staged their investigation today. Both players have been spoken
to Ranking about four o'clock this afternoon to understand his
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version of events. So what happens. These are dealt with
as summary judgments. There's no tribunal hearing or the like.
We've seen these go to the to the legal experts
in a very real way. I think these have been
Andrew Dillons calls along the way and the where these
penalties of landed. So the first was Finlason with three weeks,
and that came with a warning if it happened again,
it would be more. The second was Will Powell who
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got the five weeks with there are no excuses for.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
This conduct in our game.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Will Graham's the most recent and we live through this
with the two coaches from the West Coast and the
Giant Sorry yep, Jack Graham. So I think you could
interpret that the base penalty is five weeks, and Jack
Graham was a judge to have self reported and the
level of remorse was such that he was able to
get five weeks down to four weeks. It remains to
be seen through the investigation whether Isaac Rankin would qualify
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for that, but as we sit here now, if it
is all established, he will be looking at a five
week suspension.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
So the Crows haven't put a foot wrong since the
halfway mark of the year. They've done everything right, got
themselves into the top two spot. They'll host a home
final and they're going to have arguably their best player
jumping out of your skin, fully fit, sitting in the
grand stand. That's a worst case that's a worst case
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scenario for any club. And that's no. I've got no
sympathy for him. I understand how it happens. I understand that,
but this is not sympathy for Isaac. This is sympathy
for the Adelaide footy club, who couldn't imagine they find
themselves in this situation after one of their great wins
against the club. They haven't been on a beat and
their Premiership favorites for a reason, They've got a city
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behind them and now fighting fit sitting in a fan
Isaac Rankin, that's nearly the worst case you can hope for.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Where we find ourselves as an AFL community is troubling.
I mean this is well declared. The Finlason incident was
distasteful and was the clearest warning. I remember thinking at
the time this word is. I hadn't heard it in
twenty years. It doesn't feel like it's in any sort
of usage, but evidently with a certain demographic in various
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places it is. And it's the sort of thing that
needs to be addressed in locker rooms if in any
way this is part of your vocabulary. These are the
two reasons it needs to be out. What it means
from a society point of view, and secondly, what the
potential ramifications are if you reach for this word in
the heat of battle, it has to It just can't
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be part of any sort of flippancy or whatever else.
Goes on between twenty year olds and then we find
ourselves here and as a code, this is an awful
pattern of behavior over eighteen months.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
So the code is doing its best to stamp it out.
It's the players now that need to lead the way
and take responsibility. Now, everything you say is right, but
I can't guarantee you that it won't happen again, because
that's what happens in these games. In this battle again,
it's not simply or an excuse, but they will reach
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for a word, and you know, we're hoping in five
ten years time, but it's never heard again. You know,
it would appear that it is still and used enough
to know that. You know, in these heightened senses of
an AFL field, you say things that you don't mean. Well,
I hope he doesn't mean it, and you're remorseful.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
But that happens.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Because I guarantee it's going to happen again, I couldn't.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Unfortunately, it's a sour note to what was the most
enthralling game, and I've been looking forward to that you've
had time to think about it.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
I want to know more about it.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
It re established Collinwood's core and it was the win
that the Adelaide Crows most needed as they set their
sights to glory.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I think Seth show that should be rocking at the
moon and it is.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
This is the big one, the Adelaide Oval Pact capacity.
It's been a sellout for three weeks leading up to
this game.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Nowhere to biggest home and I game of the year
right now two of the biggest want.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
The clubs pressure on everywhere you look.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
And this is as a player, the games that you
want to play in throughout your quick.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
On the road, in.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
A light, in a quarter of dominance.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
It's really pleasing.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
We can turn them around. Haven't got more all to do.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Absolutely, but I think we have any right direction.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
It's surprised by twenty five.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
How did we hang on?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
It was grit, you know, the voice just dug in
deep and in the end we sort of tapped it
out and just go. And the Prows have picked Fred around.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
The biggest emotions pride, but I'm incredibly proud of haven't
been for years.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
It's nice now for them to be getting what they deserve.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Bill fur these gets what a mark, what a man.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
He's a different way system.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
When you have a close loss, you think about moments, Ah,
if only that didn't happen, if we did that, I
don't have many of those.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I'm not sure if you do. We gave everything rock
to me and you know it was just a fraction
better than moments. It heads it off to take us.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Side though, the take us difference.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
He committed tonight with his incredible belief.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
But we believed before he came into this game that
if it got place, we were going to win.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
And in the city of Churches and.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
Waiting for September, when there's a rick or crowd in
the house and they're screaming and going nuts, it's hard
to walk down those stairs at again and not get excited.
And they'll never forget.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
It lives on inside the four walls of our footy club,
and it lives not on in South Australia.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
It was built as the biggest night of three of
the Crows had had in eight years, and had delivered
on that front.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
They got the results. What to make of it though,
because it was a peculiar game it was.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I'd take a little exception of people say it was
just a lockdown game from the start?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Wasn't that?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
At the start?
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Colonne kick five goals to one in the first quarter,
and they were looking to be created with the ball.
You know, they were just looking to go down the middle.
I remember saying to Jason, they coming inside a lot,
you know, the trying. Their eyes were going in there.
So they kicked five goals to one that lead by
twenty five points. They kicked five goals to one against
Hawthorne lead by twenty six three weeks earlier. And then
in the second quarter they have twelve inside fifties and
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score a point and the Adelaide have thirteen and kick.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Five goals one.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Then it goes into this arm wrestler ball wrestles after that,
and as a commentator, I will sitting there watching the
count I wish I could tear something different, But this
is what's happening.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
That's going in Adelaide defending it. It's coming out, and
it's going back in, and it just kept going back.
And the more the longer it's spend in there, the
more everyone closed up, and the less.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Room there was Collingwood, you know, the seventy inside fifties.
You go, what, boy, couldn't they do anything with it? Well,
there's no room because there's that much traffic in there,
and I remember also making the comment that the corridor
wouldn't have to be mode because no after.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Half time it was just a no goes on vacant.
The one time it went.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
There was a miskick and it went in the middle
of the ground and the whole whole thing opened up
and that ends up with a crow throw to the
with the goal.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Do you think if they played again, Adelaide would play
that style or might they be a little bit braver.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Remains to be seen, but I think they were content
to be able to show that they can slug it
out because Collingwood were in that for this, you know,
to do exactly that and to win ugly.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Adelaide did it, and they did it well in the end.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
I reckon if they were to play again, just let's
say it's mcg in the last age September, they'd be
more expensive and take more risks through the middle.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Of the ground.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Conditions played into it a bit, but they were superb
and Collingwood lost.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
No fans, so they'd lost five out of six. But
did you leave a bit more confident?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Well not as not as much as Craig was and
as Pendles was apparently straight after the game. But I
understand where they're coming from because there's no other message
you so when you've lost five or six or one
round to go.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
But I mean they've lost by.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Three points to a team who were the premiership favorites.
So yeah, Collingwood fans have got reason to think that
there's still a chance.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
I want to stay with your travel the Brisbane Lions.
As I was watching, heard all that you had to say.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Just the validation.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
The Lions are eight and four against the best teams.
They have the best record by miles against the top nine.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
They were superb, came with the plan and executed it beautifully.
They said we're not going slow. You can go as
slow as you want for you We're going to go
and move the ball and the uncontested mark going was
through the roofs ack Bailey set it up early and
they were just superb rain and didn't really look like
get a touched in the first half and exploded in
the second half, which he's done a few times. They
got challenge a couple of times Fremantle when they were
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prepared to move the foot, he got through and then
just made a meal of it forward to the center.
They had really some gilt edged opportunities that they didn't take.
But this is a very good footag side. This is
a really good footy side. Je We know that in
the running premiums they keep losing players. They hip it out.
Now for a month, Barry they try and push through,
so they keep losing him. But we underestimate what they
got through the middle. And you know, as I said,
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I'm sure Zac Bailey's been busting to get in the
middle and Conjastper Fletcher's busting to get in the middle.
He stuck an half back flank, so Charlie found a
little bit of form which was good.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
So they walked away. Craig Chris Fagan post came in
a big smile on his face and he should have.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
To hipwood injury is inconvenience the No, he's not a
world beater, but I mean they will definitely have to play.
And they've got Henry Smith and Ty Gallups. They are
deep into their.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah, there's no question about that. That kid Logan Morris
keeps getting better. He getting kicked another four on the weekend.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
And Freemouder was a big fail on a stage that
was theirs.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah, so I went deep and looked at him and
I said, you've got to run to the fire. I
love that saying they didn't.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Last year they ran away from it, and they ran
away from it again when it mattered most. And I
understand that Justin would have his backup and say we
won eleven or twelve, we're hanging on to eleven or thirteen.
But when it mattered most, I just they weren't competitive enough.
They didn't react quickly enough to what was a pretty
predictable start from a Brisbane side and then Ford to center.
They are a bit of a mess as well, so
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they're not out of it. They come to Marvel Stadium
with they should come to Marvel Stadium with expectation, so
they're still very much in it.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
But it was really disappointing.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
It was a disappointing outing from Frio and when you
consider where they were this time last year and the
way they bundled out and now they're in danger doing
it again, that puts pressure.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
On that man.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
With fifteen wins, so they're up from twelve and last
year to fifteen. So when the final sums are done,
it's going to be important to assess ninth fairly, not
just on the they missed the finals.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
That's a failah.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
And they're young, yes, ahead, I think you can show
the progress that they've made, none of which is going
to be any consolation unless they come to town and
win their way in.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
So they've got to take advantage of what they've got.
What they've got is players forward to the book and
do some damage. So when you have a look at
this common metal situation right now and you see who's
leading it, you'll see a style of player that is
emerging that has been missing now for a little while.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Give me a best forward rant.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Well, this is it.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
So to the common middle, Jack Gunstan came out. This
is what Jack Gunston comes out and kicks a sixty
goal season. I'm asking myself why that happens? How can
that happen to a man who I thought was finished.
It's because over the past three four five years, coaches
and clubs have allowed defenders to take over the game
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by the way they play.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Don't play six forwards, Let's play five. I'm a ford.
I want one. I want not bad luck. You got
five against six. We want to extra in the midfield, vacate,
defend up.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
The ground, on Jack Hunston had thirty even in his
fourteen touches inside forward fifty made me cry on the weekend,
Jared So Jack Gunst all of a sudden comes back
into footy and goes, no, no, let me do something that.
So defenders don't defend anymore. They defend space and they
intercept mark. Jack guns says, I'll hit up at the ball.
I'll just lead up at the foot He lead up
at the footy.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
As a result of that, he's kicked a sixty goal season.
It was like an a pitch.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
I'm watching it going what is well?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
How come this old blokes kick sixty goals? Because the
craft returned?
Speaker 1 (23:57):
He gets one on one, he works Stephen received man
where he was, hits up with the ball, takes a mark,
goes back, kicks a goal sixty times?
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Why don't they do that?
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Which takes me to Fremantle. Hopefully they're following here. So
they had a period of dominance when it was with
this boy Tracy. He pushes Gardener off the ball, goes back,
kicks a goal. You go there, this is the winner,
this is the man. And then the next the next
play bang lead up. So he's got Gardener for space,
and he's got him on the lead. He go, why
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can't you isolate this man? This is the very next play.
Isolate him. Ahna in comes Jackson, incomes Amos, up comes
someone else.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
That's a three on three. Look at them all.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Go to the one space, Jared, Why isn't Tracy the
hot man here? Why isn't he the one that's gone righter.
You've got to defend me.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Here's the space, leave it for Tracy. Oh no, let's
all go.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Let's all go and make the defending job for the
risbone lines that much easier.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
So that is just a nonsense. This is that's the third.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
So the first one was he just pushed gardener out
of the road.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
He is a fly marks it kicks a goal. I reckon,
he's a chance Tracy. Next one he hits up on
a lead.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Bang mark up.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Now he's a chance. Next one. No, let's all go.
Isolate the man and give him a chance.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Jack Gunson gets his own room, gets his own space, works,
he mover goes that marks it kicks a goal.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
What's happened to that? Where's that football? Gone?
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Six v six forwards? We'll wear five v six. We
have an extra midfielder run around and do what he
wants on his own.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I love the passion well downe.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
To Jack Guns.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Let's bring our coaches into our conversation. Damien Hardwy Incident
is going to join us for the Gold Coasts. Top
four is still in the offering with two to play
after the setback against the Giants and Brad Scott a
huge effort from the Bombers, still no prize to go
with them.
I might be swimming against the side I'm saying Nassiah
is staying at Saint Kilda and will sign a contract
and stay in the saith.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Is that that.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Would change things immeasurably.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Just roll the table. Sometimes you've just got.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
To have a little bit of faith. Nassiah Wang. Andy
Miller assigns the biggest deal in fully.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
History as the Saints retain.
Speaker 5 (00:25):
Their man adelaiembracing for a suspension that will jeopardize Isaac
Rankins's finals campaign as an investigation continues, and the coaches who.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Are double books for the final rounds, Damien Hardwick and
Brad Scott's on the two game challenge.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
We talked about his step into it, embrace all of it.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
In the room and Pat it's unedifying for a senior
coach to do that.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
They're on the side of Courtia with the brain, hate
the man on.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
They played the best footy I've ever seen at the
start of the season, and Into said the president left
the couple order said, of course they do.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
After the legends are made.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Of what is holding them all? I don't think I
could answer it clearly right now.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I could do something wrong, you know, and I need
to go and the boards, actually the fans lover and
with no fans, no through sixty your own.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
There is a whole industry dedicated to monitoring these trades,
and you've just trampled in and dezump them.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
All that hard, Jared, I told you last week. I
don't know what Ralfie and Tom Morris and those boys
are worried about. I'm probably have to take your ward
when the awards comes.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Into emarcation disputs all over the place here.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
That's great news.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
That's a big, big day for the security food you gab.
We'll dive into it in a big ways. I was
thrilled to hear it, though.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
It is great.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
It's a news heavy day, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
This is all we've got lined up Tonight's our coaches,
Damien Hardwick and Brad Scott, who are going to finish
the season playing against each other on Wednesday week.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Lee Matthews is here to join our regular.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Quartets on the couch tomorrow and our players locking eels
out until the final series.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Zach Merritt will find.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Out shortly whether he'll be back to play Game two
fifty on Thursday night. Ray Chamblin has been studying the
crow throw and how we've got ourselves here where we used.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
To do this and now as sort of anything.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Goes real overreaction. And Wednesday night, our favorite pairing, John
Longmire and Adam Simpson will have Danes Orco as he
reaches game three hundred.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
What a journey that's been.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
And Libby Birch is stepping into the specky McGee markets.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I welcome her.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I welcome her in her book, to the to the Brethren.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Our Monday Night start with the awarding of the GVPS,
the most thrilling award there is in forty and the
most coveted amongst the players. The prize, as we've told
you throughout the year, is provided by Ford. It is
the Mustang GT Fastback, valued at ninety three thousand dollars,
Iconic design, unreal performance, five liter, the eight engine. It
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goes like a dream, and it is being fiercely contested
right now.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
No fear of favor. I didn't even look at the
school boards. I don't know whether these are going to
have any impact on it or not.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I don't think Harry Sheesel was in contention, but he
couldn't be denied.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
He couldn't be denied. After a fifty four game, fifty
four possession game. It was unbelievable. Actually played so well.
He just carved the game to pieces.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
So fifty four touches gets Harry a touch and you know,
when we're doing the GVP in five ten years time,
wouldn't be surprised if this man's driving in one jured
because he's got all the ability, all the talent.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
People are in a hurry for him to dominate the game.
He'll get there, don't you worry about that.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I like the way they've coached him start even half back.
There's no rush to throw these bokes through the middle.
You get them there eventually, and when they get there
they have days like that.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
So well done.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
That too was good for the soul because he's had
his battles this year and there he was at his.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Two goals as well. Zach Bailey started at all on
Friday night. He gets too much to the Brisbane line,
so no lock. He heil through that midfield coming up
against the Freemantle Dockers, Sarong and Brasure and the like.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
And I looked in there and went, well that's different.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Zach Baalley is in there should have kicked three goals
in the first fift minutes from the middle of the ground.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
He kicked two. Set them alight.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
And he's just he's a bit indicative of this football club,
to be honest. They got depth everywhere, so they've He's
probably been sitting out there on r Forard flanks saying
get me in, get me in, and Fags put him
in there and he dominated. And then an old bloke,
well the name of Jack Gunstan says this, give us
seven on the mcg and I'll get the sixty and
it will make it look very, very simple.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
So this was it was pure What.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
A season he's having was a thirty three year old.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I'm going to have a little bit more to say
on him a little later in the show, but I mean,
what a season. And I just put my hand in there.
I didn't say it and I didn't ride it. I
almost did. I was going to be hyper hypercritical of
awthought at the start of the year. So this is
one of those where you fall on the sword when
you didn't even declare it.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I thought he was gone for all money. So well
done to Jack Gunson.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
What a renaissance that it should lead all the way
to the All Australian team as well. So these are
the GVPS. Our leaders remain tied on nine. Patrick Danersfield,
Isaac h and Matt Rowel, Toby Green, Jesse Hogan within
striking distance and the rest are going to need to
play finals.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
He's a mover. Didn't know that mud be plenty to
come on that front.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
All right, let's get into the agenda. At the top
of the biggest contract news of the season, he'd become
the most talked about player over the past month. The
Sara Wanganeen Miller committing to two more years at some
Kilda with a contract the likes of which we've never
seen and Harriet Hill have the honor.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I've announcing it to the Saints.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
He's got an announced with land Spring Sury.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
We've got some news and Paris been working very hard.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Behind the scenes and Harry's going to tell everyone the news.
Can you say so?
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Who's saying?
Speaker 6 (05:45):
Can you say the name?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (05:50):
It was only about last week and I fully made
up my decision when my parents were both in Melbourne.
So yeah, it's basically when I told him.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
From this day, we love Harriet.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
Relationships I have here for a huge in my decision
and played a huge part in it. And yeah, I
just felt like it wasn't right to leave for me personally,
the friendships I've created and wanted to achieve something specially
with them, There'd be nothing, no better feeling than doing
that with them. And yeah, they great relationships here and
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I love all the boys.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Nothing mattered more than this for some Kilda and they're faithful.
They've been tortured by it for this past month as
he has fully grown into this player, wondering will he
be ours? Or he truly hadn't made up his mind.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
It didn't bear thinking what would happen if he left.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
That's as excited as I am or we are. Some
Kilda fans are over the moon. Him not committing and
going elsewhere was that was a that's an even nearly
bigger story, because then we go, we'll have's Tom Deakerney
going to fit into the football if in fact he goes,
which it looks like, is how's he going to go
in there? And how's he going to be received? And
then you know the other players who are said to
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have been a bit unsettled with the way it's all unplayed,
So that is all gone now, so you can park
that and now it's you wait till we get him
and you won't leave wanders in and then who else
will come and recommit? So yeah, the alternative wasn't worth
thinking about. But he's done now and it's it's great
news at a big price.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, at two million dollars big price.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
So if negotiations seven, I know, if negotiations started in
the high eight, say in January, this is the season
that he has played. As to commands, two million dollars,
we have moved very quickly from one point three million
to two million in this industry, a.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Question about that.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
So in the end, that's for the secure footy club
to manage, and we'll have questions on that. The supporters
don't care about the stalarycap. That's the bottom line. And
this is a supporter group of you know, had one
premiership to celebrate. It's been lean, it looked it could
go one way or the other. So they don't care
about that. They don't worry about how they're going to
fit you form me in potentially into two players into
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a salary cap. But it is a challenge and it's
interesting how it's going to play out, But yeah, I reckon,
I reckon. He's gone up half a million bucks in
four weeks.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Yep, after the Melbourne game, and then strength to strength,
He's evolution throughout the season. He was the finest ball
using half back flanker, and then he went into the
middle and became a top ten player in the competition.
And by the way, when games are on the line,
he'll just pop forward and win you're the match. So
he's become that triple threat in what six weeks and goalkicker.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
So he's top probably top five player in the competition
right now, and that's what those books are going to earn.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
What about the notion of twenty percent of a cap
being taken up by two players if Tom Mconing goes there,
as we all imagine.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Well this to be perply honest.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I've never dived into it, but I would imagine it's
been done before. You know, if you've got a ten
million dollar salary cap, which it was not so long ago,
that's two million bucks out of which seems even worse.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
You'd have to ask the relpies of the world who
understand how it all works. But I think Gubby and say,
let's get this thing done and then we'll sort the backhand.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Out and I hold them all together.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Out, hold them together.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Yeah, if we're going to run end the couple along
the way, and if a few noses get put out
a joint and then so be it. All that matters
is you've got them together. Windegether roommate stays hopefully. I
can't imagine him turning around and leaving, can you, Jack Sink?
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Sorry?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Calen Milke committed and then you know the captain, So
I think, yeah, sort out that other stuff later, leave
that to the boffins and the footay coach.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Ross Lyon's pretty damn happy.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
He's the centerpiece of the rebuild, that's for sure, and
we've seen that so often. Think in these moments right now,
deliver against it all. The way he's played this season
is to just feel like a good decision. Do you
think I do?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I do? Even at the price. This is one of
those ones.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Where you pay what needs to be paid and then
figure the rest out afterwards.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
That's the best of it.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
The worst of the news out of the round is
the savage fallout from Saturday Night that centers on Isaac
Rankin who is tonight the source of an AFL integrity
investigation which is reaching its endpoint, and the likelihood is
a suspension that will end his season comes from headquarters tomorrow.
He stayed away from the Crows today, I think for
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reasons that are understandable. It did leave his teammates to
face the questions.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I mean, it's not ideal, but it's obviously in the
AFL's hands.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
And all that they've investigated and see what happens.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
Be worried about. I guess potential big band fires that
could mean for the finals campaign.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I mean, like I said, we'll wait and see, but
we'll leave it up to.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
The AFL to go through what they have to go through.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
There's another incident like this speak to a cultural issue
within the AFL.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
No, I don't think so.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Yes, yeah, it's definitely not ideal, is it. But yeah,
we'll work through stuff, and yeah, we've got a game
this week, so we'll focus on that.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
This has been a scourge of the competition for a
year and a half now. It's Andrew Dillons absolute passion
project to stamp this out of the game and the
intrusion of a word which has no place in common use,
and it didn't feel like I'd heard it for twenty
years before. It has started to flow in here the
sequence of events. So it was a tense night. It
was physically planning close quarters and Rankin was involved at
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various stages in pitted battles with Isaac Quanor, which then
spilled to other opponents. The players on the field were
well aware of what had been said, and yesterday Collinwood
contacted Adelaide to inform them of what was known. Adelaide
then handed it over to the AFL Integrity Unit, who
have staged their investigation today. Both players have been spoken
to Ranking about four o'clock this afternoon to understand his
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version of events. So what happens. These are dealt with
as summary judgments. There's no tribunal hearing or the like.
We've seen these go to the to the legal experts
in a very real way. I think these have been
Andrew Dillons calls along the way and the where these
penalties of landed. So the first was Finlason with three weeks,
and that came with a warning if it happened again,
it would be more. The second was Will Powell who
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got the five weeks with there are no excuses for.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
This conduct in our game.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Will Graham's the most recent and we live through this
with the two coaches from the West Coast and the
Giant Sorry yep, Jack Graham. So I think you could
interpret that the base penalty is five weeks, and Jack
Graham was a judge to have self reported and the
level of remorse was such that he was able to
get five weeks down to four weeks. It remains to
be seen through the investigation whether Isaac Rankin would qualify
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for that, but as we sit here now, if it
is all established, he will be looking at a five
week suspension.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
So the Crows haven't put a foot wrong since the
halfway mark of the year. They've done everything right, got
themselves into the top two spot. They'll host a home
final and they're going to have arguably their best player
jumping out of your skin, fully fit, sitting in the
grand stand. That's a worst case that's a worst case
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scenario for any club. And that's no. I've got no
sympathy for him. I understand how it happens. I understand that,
but this is not sympathy for Isaac. This is sympathy
for the Adelaide footy club, who couldn't imagine they find
themselves in this situation after one of their great wins
against the club. They haven't been on a beat and
their Premiership favorites for a reason, They've got a city
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behind them and now fighting fit sitting in a fan
Isaac Rankin, that's nearly the worst case you can hope for.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Where we find ourselves as an AFL community is troubling.
I mean this is well declared. The Finlason incident was
distasteful and was the clearest warning. I remember thinking at
the time this word is. I hadn't heard it in
twenty years. It doesn't feel like it's in any sort
of usage, but evidently with a certain demographic in various
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places it is. And it's the sort of thing that
needs to be addressed in locker rooms if in any
way this is part of your vocabulary. These are the
two reasons it needs to be out. What it means
from a society point of view, and secondly, what the
potential ramifications are if you reach for this word in
the heat of battle, it has to It just can't
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be part of any sort of flippancy or whatever else.
Goes on between twenty year olds and then we find
ourselves here and as a code, this is an awful
pattern of behavior over eighteen months.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
So the code is doing its best to stamp it out.
It's the players now that need to lead the way
and take responsibility. Now, everything you say is right, but
I can't guarantee you that it won't happen again, because
that's what happens in these games. In this battle again,
it's not simply or an excuse, but they will reach
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for a word, and you know, we're hoping in five
ten years time, but it's never heard again. You know,
it would appear that it is still and used enough
to know that. You know, in these heightened senses of
an AFL field, you say things that you don't mean. Well,
I hope he doesn't mean it, and you're remorseful.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
But that happens.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Because I guarantee it's going to happen again, I couldn't.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Unfortunately, it's a sour note to what was the most
enthralling game, and I've been looking forward to that you've
had time to think about it.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
I want to know more about it.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
It re established Collinwood's core and it was the win
that the Adelaide Crows most needed as they set their
sights to glory.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I think Seth show that should be rocking at the
moon and it is.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
This is the big one, the Adelaide Oval Pact capacity.
It's been a sellout for three weeks leading up to
this game.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Nowhere to biggest home and I game of the year
right now two of the biggest want.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
The clubs pressure on everywhere you look.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
And this is as a player, the games that you
want to play in throughout your quick.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
On the road, in.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
A light, in a quarter of dominance.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
It's really pleasing.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
We can turn them around. Haven't got more all to do.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Absolutely, but I think we have any right direction.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
It's surprised by twenty five.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
How did we hang on?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
It was grit, you know, the voice just dug in
deep and in the end we sort of tapped it
out and just go. And the Prows have picked Fred around.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
The biggest emotions pride, but I'm incredibly proud of haven't
been for years.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
It's nice now for them to be getting what they deserve.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Bill fur these gets what a mark, what a man.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
He's a different way system.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
When you have a close loss, you think about moments, Ah,
if only that didn't happen, if we did that, I
don't have many of those.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I'm not sure if you do. We gave everything rock
to me and you know it was just a fraction
better than moments. It heads it off to take us.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Side though, the take us difference.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
He committed tonight with his incredible belief.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
But we believed before he came into this game that
if it got place, we were going to win.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
And in the city of Churches and.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
Waiting for September, when there's a rick or crowd in
the house and they're screaming and going nuts, it's hard
to walk down those stairs at again and not get excited.
And they'll never forget.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
It lives on inside the four walls of our footy club,
and it lives not on in South Australia.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
It was built as the biggest night of three of
the Crows had had in eight years, and had delivered
on that front.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
They got the results. What to make of it though,
because it was a peculiar game it was.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I'd take a little exception of people say it was
just a lockdown game from the start?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Wasn't that?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
At the start?
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Colonne kick five goals to one in the first quarter,
and they were looking to be created with the ball.
You know, they were just looking to go down the middle.
I remember saying to Jason, they coming inside a lot,
you know, the trying. Their eyes were going in there.
So they kicked five goals to one that lead by
twenty five points. They kicked five goals to one against
Hawthorne lead by twenty six three weeks earlier. And then
in the second quarter they have twelve inside fifties and
(18:17):
score a point and the Adelaide have thirteen and kick.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Five goals one.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Then it goes into this arm wrestler ball wrestles after that,
and as a commentator, I will sitting there watching the
count I wish I could tear something different, But this
is what's happening.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
That's going in Adelaide defending it. It's coming out, and
it's going back in, and it just kept going back.
And the more the longer it's spend in there, the
more everyone closed up, and the less.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Room there was Collingwood, you know, the seventy inside fifties.
You go, what, boy, couldn't they do anything with it? Well,
there's no room because there's that much traffic in there,
and I remember also making the comment that the corridor
wouldn't have to be mode because no after.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Half time it was just a no goes on vacant.
The one time it went.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
There was a miskick and it went in the middle
of the ground and the whole whole thing opened up
and that ends up with a crow throw to the
with the goal.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Do you think if they played again, Adelaide would play
that style or might they be a little bit braver.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Remains to be seen, but I think they were content
to be able to show that they can slug it
out because Collingwood were in that for this, you know,
to do exactly that and to win ugly.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Adelaide did it, and they did it well in the end.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
I reckon if they were to play again, just let's
say it's mcg in the last age September, they'd be
more expensive and take more risks through the middle.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Of the ground.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Conditions played into it a bit, but they were superb
and Collingwood lost.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
No fans, so they'd lost five out of six. But
did you leave a bit more confident?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Well not as not as much as Craig was and
as Pendles was apparently straight after the game. But I
understand where they're coming from because there's no other message
you so when you've lost five or six or one
round to go.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
But I mean they've lost by.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Three points to a team who were the premiership favorites.
So yeah, Collingwood fans have got reason to think that
there's still a chance.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
I want to stay with your travel the Brisbane Lions.
As I was watching, heard all that you had to say.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Just the validation.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
The Lions are eight and four against the best teams.
They have the best record by miles against the top nine.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
They were superb, came with the plan and executed it beautifully.
They said we're not going slow. You can go as
slow as you want for you We're going to go
and move the ball and the uncontested mark going was
through the roofs ack Bailey set it up early and
they were just superb rain and didn't really look like
get a touched in the first half and exploded in
the second half, which he's done a few times. They
got challenge a couple of times Fremantle when they were
(20:34):
prepared to move the foot, he got through and then
just made a meal of it forward to the center.
They had really some gilt edged opportunities that they didn't take.
But this is a very good footag side. This is
a really good footy side. Je We know that in
the running premiums they keep losing players. They hip it out.
Now for a month, Barry they try and push through,
so they keep losing him. But we underestimate what they
got through the middle. And you know, as I said,
(20:56):
I'm sure Zac Bailey's been busting to get in the
middle and Conjastper Fletcher's busting to get in the middle.
He stuck an half back flank, so Charlie found a
little bit of form which was good.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
So they walked away. Craig Chris Fagan post came in
a big smile on his face and he should have.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
To hipwood injury is inconvenience the No, he's not a
world beater, but I mean they will definitely have to play.
And they've got Henry Smith and Ty Gallups. They are
deep into their.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah, there's no question about that. That kid Logan Morris
keeps getting better. He getting kicked another four on the weekend.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
And Freemouder was a big fail on a stage that
was theirs.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah, so I went deep and looked at him and
I said, you've got to run to the fire. I
love that saying they didn't.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Last year they ran away from it, and they ran
away from it again when it mattered most. And I
understand that Justin would have his backup and say we
won eleven or twelve, we're hanging on to eleven or thirteen.
But when it mattered most, I just they weren't competitive enough.
They didn't react quickly enough to what was a pretty
predictable start from a Brisbane side and then Ford to center.
They are a bit of a mess as well, so
(21:59):
they're not out of it. They come to Marvel Stadium
with they should come to Marvel Stadium with expectation, so
they're still very much in it.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
But it was really disappointing.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
It was a disappointing outing from Frio and when you
consider where they were this time last year and the
way they bundled out and now they're in danger doing
it again, that puts pressure.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
On that man.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
With fifteen wins, so they're up from twelve and last
year to fifteen. So when the final sums are done,
it's going to be important to assess ninth fairly, not
just on the they missed the finals.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
That's a failah.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
And they're young, yes, ahead, I think you can show
the progress that they've made, none of which is going
to be any consolation unless they come to town and
win their way in.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
So they've got to take advantage of what they've got.
What they've got is players forward to the book and
do some damage. So when you have a look at
this common metal situation right now and you see who's
leading it, you'll see a style of player that is
emerging that has been missing now for a little while.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Give me a best forward rant.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Well, this is it.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
So to the common middle, Jack Gunstan came out. This
is what Jack Gunston comes out and kicks a sixty
goal season. I'm asking myself why that happens? How can
that happen to a man who I thought was finished.
It's because over the past three four five years, coaches
and clubs have allowed defenders to take over the game
(23:18):
by the way they play.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Don't play six forwards, Let's play five. I'm a ford.
I want one. I want not bad luck. You got
five against six. We want to extra in the midfield, vacate,
defend up.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
The ground, on Jack Hunston had thirty even in his
fourteen touches inside forward fifty made me cry on the weekend,
Jared So Jack Gunst all of a sudden comes back
into footy and goes, no, no, let me do something that.
So defenders don't defend anymore. They defend space and they
intercept mark. Jack guns says, I'll hit up at the ball.
I'll just lead up at the foot He lead up
at the footy.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
As a result of that, he's kicked a sixty goal season.
It was like an a pitch.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
I'm watching it going what is well?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
How come this old blokes kick sixty goals? Because the
craft returned?
Speaker 1 (23:57):
He gets one on one, he works Stephen received man
where he was, hits up with the ball, takes a mark,
goes back, kicks a goal sixty times?
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Why don't they do that?
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Which takes me to Fremantle. Hopefully they're following here. So
they had a period of dominance when it was with
this boy Tracy. He pushes Gardener off the ball, goes back,
kicks a goal. You go there, this is the winner,
this is the man. And then the next the next
play bang lead up. So he's got Gardener for space,
and he's got him on the lead. He go, why
(24:26):
can't you isolate this man? This is the very next play.
Isolate him. Ahna in comes Jackson, incomes Amos, up comes
someone else.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
That's a three on three. Look at them all.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Go to the one space, Jared, Why isn't Tracy the
hot man here? Why isn't he the one that's gone righter.
You've got to defend me.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Here's the space, leave it for Tracy. Oh no, let's
all go.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Let's all go and make the defending job for the
risbone lines that much easier.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
So that is just a nonsense. This is that's the third.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
So the first one was he just pushed gardener out
of the road.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
He is a fly marks it kicks a goal. I reckon,
he's a chance Tracy. Next one he hits up on
a lead.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Bang mark up.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Now he's a chance. Next one. No, let's all go.
Isolate the man and give him a chance.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Jack Gunson gets his own room, gets his own space, works,
he mover goes that marks it kicks a goal.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
What's happened to that? Where's that football? Gone?
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Six v six forwards? We'll wear five v six. We
have an extra midfielder run around and do what he
wants on his own.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I love the passion well downe.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
To Jack Guns.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Let's bring our coaches into our conversation. Damien Hardwy Incident
is going to join us for the Gold Coasts. Top
four is still in the offering with two to play
after the setback against the Giants and Brad Scott a
huge effort from the Bombers, still no prize to go
with them.
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