Catch up on all the footy news from AFL 360, Monday 7th July with Garry Lyon and Jason Dunstall.
On AFL 360, Garry Lyon and Jason Dunstall weigh in on the AFL’s proposed mid-season tournament - is it a genuine innovation or an unnecessary distraction? The panel also breaks down Fremantle’s finals hopes after slipping out of the top eight, and unpacks Carlton’s ongoing struggles as pressure continues to mount. Plus, key injury updates and all the latest news from around the league.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The heat rises on Justin Long muwers men after dropping
a game to the Swans and dropping out of.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
The eight, the brutal fallout from a bruising weekend, the
toll of Round seventeen with serious knee and hamstring injuries,
and our coaches.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Join us this Monday won a winner.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Wanna lose?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Dean Cox and Brad Scott with their Round sevenem review.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
We talked about is a step into it, debrace all.
Speaker 5 (00:26):
Of it, hit in the room and reason it's Uneedi
fine for a senior coach to do that on the
side of caution with the brain hate the man on.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
They played the best free I've.
Speaker 6 (00:35):
Ever seen at the start of a season and injury,
said president.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
I left. The couple older said hell.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Of course they do. It is the stuff that legends
are made of. What is holding the ball? I don't
think I could answer it clearly right now.
Speaker 7 (00:45):
I'm to do something wrong, you know, and I need
to go and the boards actually the fans lover and
with no fans no through sixty year old, how welcome.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
To AFL three sixty for one of the rare occasions.
Jared Weekly not in the main chair.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I'm filling in They said, who across the broad landscape
that his AFL media would you like to have alongside you?
I said, Jason does so they said, let Jason have
a night off, and then I said no, and Jason
demanded that he come in and support me tonight. Which
is this sort of solidarity I expect from the great man,
the AFL Hall of Fame legend. Here on a Monday,
welcome to.
Speaker 8 (01:25):
You, good evening, gazz and nowhere I'd rather be, well,
a couple of places i'd rather in fact, the more
I think about it, lots of places i'd rather be.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
But you know what, let's be brutally honest.
Speaker 8 (01:34):
We're heading into window and that's normally a time where
we don't get as excited about the footage. But I
think the action's about to start heating up and we're
starting to talk about the business end of the season
not to look forward to.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Are you sure you don't bring your diss engenuous exit mate.
The last couple of weeks have been a laborious process. Yes, true,
teams that haven't been. This weekend, well, let's have a
look at this weekend because I think for the first
time we can get a little bit excited, although well.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Very clever fashion.
Speaker 8 (01:58):
We've left Thursday Night off Thursday Night Carlton brist but look.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
At the matchups after that. There are some beauties.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
That's a big you're a Queenslander, that's as big a
game from an AFL point of view. We've got up
there the Gold Coast Suns hosting Collingwood in the school
holiday program, so that'll be packed out that you and
we'll find out about the Suns.
Speaker 8 (02:16):
That's going to be well when you get I mean,
we complained about the bottom nine playing the top nine
last week. Now we got eight of the top nine
playing each other, so we're going to start to find
out about some of these teams.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
That's absolutely outstanding, and we get bound to Freemantle are
going to be a big story tonight.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
We have got a lot to look forward to tonight.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
But there's been a story that's emerges this afternoon speaking
of how long the season goes and some I think
personally that's way too long. I've been on the record
of saying that for some time now. They're speaking about
an NBA style in season type competition.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Jason.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
This story is released this afternoon, an AFL Cup potentially
five million dollars of prize money, a finals place maybe
for the team that wins, and then also speculating about
bringing back some former stars like Buddy Franklin.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
And dust Than Martin. What say you to this extraordinary
news breakup?
Speaker 8 (03:04):
I applaud the fact that we have forums and think
tanks and get togethers. I think it's really important, and
we do tend to follow a lot of what.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Happens in the US as far as sport goes.
Speaker 8 (03:15):
And I love the CEOs being imaginative. I love them
being entrepreneurial. But I'm not sure watching the water up there, Gary,
because I see this is fraught with danger. Well, we've
gone through the phases of having a pre season comp
or a night comp during the season. Yes, now we're
talking about a season being too long. We're going to
shorten the home and away season to play these other
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games which make the season.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Just as long as it was.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yes.
Speaker 8 (03:40):
Plus, you're going to find a lot of players get
rested for that because they're more concerned about the Premiership.
You'll get injuries to some that do play in it,
and there'll be clubs going up in arms about that
and what impact does it have on some of the awards.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
So as they're quite flying exercises, I think we need
to challenge away with it about it.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
I get that, and that's smart that they're doing that
your NBA.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
What you're on night, Does it work in the NBA?
Speaker 8 (04:06):
Yeah, But the games that they use in the NBA
Cup count for the overall as well, right, so it's
a little bit it's a little bit different.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
What's the difference there.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
It's just it's just throw an extra prize money for
a block of games.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Is that what they're doing.
Speaker 8 (04:17):
From an NBA Well, the one you're talking about though
from the AFL perspective.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Is No, that's completely separate.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Yeah, they're separate, so they're not home and away gos.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
So different to what they're doing in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
What I do like about this is that once Tasmania
comes in, on the assumption that they do, then we're
going to have nineteen teams.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
The talk is they'll play each other once.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Now, the sooner we get to that scenario, the better
for terms of some sort of quality in the drawer
or the fixture, and then maybe you gather around game
and maybe a rivalry round, which brings it to the
twenty game season.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
That sounds pretty.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Good, but we keep.
Speaker 8 (04:51):
We're going around in circles. We're like a dog trying
to bite its own tail. We bemoaned how long the
season was. The league decided to pay the players more
money to lengthen the season so that we get a
bigger broadcast deal to get more revenue and more people
involved in the game. So you can't have one without
the other.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
No, and maybe it is just a kite flying exercise.
I think this time last year they did the same
thing and spoke about it. It's the three Grand Finals,
so maybe they just test in the water. They didn't
get here, Jason, he got a big show tonight, looking
forward to having the two coaches come in and join us,
Brad Scott and Dean Cox. Big win for the Sydney
Swan season. Still alive. Injury news around both those clubs.
That will be able to update you with the course.
And then if sorry on the couch tonight following us, well,
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Joey goes into.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
The let's see you'll do it well, he'll do it
well well you want to hope.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
So Jordan Brownie and Buckley Nathan Buckley of course, and
then tomorrow night we will be joined by our players
Josh Akos and Toby Green, Ray's array and then our coaches,
so our former coaches Simon good, John Romeyer and Adam
Simpson as well. Let's get to the biggest award in football. Jason,
I know you're fascinated with this as well.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
I'm surprised I let you do it.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
What do you mean you're surprised? Have you do? It's
the GVP.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
It's the Mustang g T fastback value at ninety eight
three thousand dollars if you don't mind iconic design, unreal performance,
five liters v eight that's just cruising around Albert Park,
broke the track record and the votes are eagerly waited.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
It's a spectacular prize, the best.
Speaker 8 (06:20):
I'm just concerned about the quality of the votes that
have been given, and you let Joey have a crack
at at last.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I had no saying that.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I wasn't happy about that. But I can only give
a three or two on a one, so feel free.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
To argue you're giving the one two.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
The one goes to the Saia Wanganneen Miller for a
game that you and I both watched on the Saturday
night at Marvel Stadium.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
He was He was outstanding in a.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Game that wasn't an absolute highlight forty three touches to
eleven score involvements.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
But this is why I loved it.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
He had eight inside fifties and eight rebound fifteen, so
both ends.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Any arguments there, No.
Speaker 8 (06:52):
It would have been a three vote game because you
should have kicked three or four goals. Yes, that would
have taken him right over the top.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
That's a very good points why one of the work
with you to night, which takes us to the two vote,
which goes to Isaac rank and who did take his
opportunities in the game. That was very, very delicately poised
for the Adelaie Crows. They were looking like they might
lose this for the fifth time in a row against Melbourne.
They're twenty eight points down the second quarter and then
Isaac Rankin sent in that not on my watch, kick
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two goals in the second, ticked two goals in the third,
ended up with five for the night, and he was
the difference between winning and losing.
Speaker 8 (07:25):
He single handedly kept them innute when no one else
was getting much of the ball early on and they
needed to find a way to stay with Melbourne. He
was the one that was getting it done and then
he just worked himself into a hanfl over the course
of the game. So he's a class act, really important player.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
He's nice Fadlaide if he starts to hit his absolute best.
And the three went to Zach Bailey as a player
who I think we've longered mind for a long time.
The Brisbane lines playing through the middle, would like to
get into the middle, but it has to play a
bit on the periphery. But they're in a little bit
of strife early. They looked over up three goals very
early against the fight up Port Adelaide, and then they
played perhaps the most blistering ten or fifteen minutes of
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footy for the year and he was in the middle
of it. Twenty six touches, five goals, twelve score involvements.
Speaker 8 (08:06):
He's an exciting player. And let me tell you right now,
when he sees those big white sticks, Gary, yes, he
can seriously pin the years back. He goes like a
shot out of a gun. He's a ripper. He's got
a little bit of that X factor that they need
as well.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Not that interested in handing him off, is he?
Speaker 6 (08:23):
No?
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Why would you be leaderboard right now. Danish jumped right
out of the blocks early in the PA.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
It's interesting.
Speaker 8 (08:31):
I look at the totals there and I don't see
Nick Dakos anywhere.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Is there something? What does he have to do to
get back? You know what?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
He was probably the fourth player behind those three on
the weekend.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
For about the fourteenth week in a row.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Sound like our boss. So there it is, says the leaderboard. Right,
let's get into our biggest story.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
The Freemantle Football Club had been in really good form,
won five games in a row, drop one on the
weekend to a reborn Sydney Swan's and all of a
sudden find themselves under pressure and add the eight.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
Season is so life for the Sydney Swans and for Freemantle.
You don't want to be the kid without a seat when.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
The music stops.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
Right now they don't have a seat for September. So
that man justin romure a difference between making the eighth
and not making it.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
There's not right now.
Speaker 9 (09:30):
We've did the ladder since the game. But I'd imagine
right we're a game out of before or equals someone
in the four lights. Yeah we lost the game. We're
not out of it.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Keep fighting, keep fighting.
Speaker 10 (09:41):
I think that he has to play finals this year
in his sixth season, to show that he is the
man and all the evidence put before us.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
You have to question for the Hawthorne.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Game coming up this week's he'll be one of the
biggest games for the football club in a long time.
Can they handle the expectation and the pressure that comes
with playing in a game that's going.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
To mean so much.
Speaker 9 (09:59):
A we're going to go through the rest of the
season and not lose, probably hope from that, but it's
a realistic loss was going to come. We were reviewing
the same as what we reviewed our six wins. Get
better John Beadlethorn next week.
Speaker 10 (10:14):
Is he the guy to take them all the way
to a premiership sixty year?
Speaker 4 (10:19):
I have no doubt.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
As bad as strong from not on first crack, the
biggest losers from the weekend, there's no question about that.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
We'll have a look at the ladder.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
So they find themselves outside the top eights after going
in in sixth position Chiefs, they go down the ninth
good sides come in and the Sydney Swines outside of
there still think they're a chance as well.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I mean that's strong from King.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
It is.
Speaker 8 (10:45):
I find the rhetoric around Fremantle rather extraordinary, to be
brutally honest. I mean, it's not like the top eight
or nine teams aren't going to all win their way home.
I mean most of them have got three, four, five
games against each other in the top and let's be
brually honest. We're talking about a free zero team that
just won six on the trot, they dropped one game
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and it just happens to be a team that played
in the Grand Final last year. A team that all
of a sudden gets Callam Mills the skipper back with
a few games under his belt, Papley who got injured
but he's enormous when he comes back in.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
And Errol Gulden, who is class with a capital C.
Speaker 8 (11:20):
So you can just see the confidence of the entire
Sydney team has lifted. They've been resurgent in recent weeks.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
It's hardly a horrible.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Loss, right, So the question that I have for you
then on the Bay, on the back of that, they've
got seven games to go, four at home, three away.
They play Hawthorne, Collingwood, then games against the Eagles. They
should win and Carlton. They should win Port Adelaide, you'd
say they should as well, and they finished.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
With Brison the Bullies.
Speaker 8 (11:43):
So they're the four game those four that you mentioned Hawthorne,
Colin had Brisbane Weston Bullies.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
That's when we judge Freut.
Speaker 8 (11:48):
That's when they've got a chance to force their way
in playing against the big boys. But I mean they
have won six in a row and they drop one
and we're jumping down their throat.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Because we don't trust them.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
That's why as a footy as a footy world at
the moment, and they will bristle and rail at them
and as they should, but we don't yet quite trust
them because with four ns to go last year they're
third on the ladder. Jase, this is why you don't
trust them. They're third on the ladder with four games
to go last year and they lose them all.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Let's not forget.
Speaker 8 (12:17):
We haven't trusted Gold Coast since they've been more competition.
Trust and you're still not trusting well, not until they've
forced their way in, they've proven themselves and they actually
play finals.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
We don't trust the different the Gold Coast.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
I mean this is their thirtieth year now, the three
other teams that you can compare this football side with
The Adelaide Crows took seven years to win a Grand five,
the West Coast Eagles took six years, and Port Adelaide
took eight.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
They're in their thirtieth year.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
They've played in a prelim, a couple of prelims and
a Grand found without winning one, so that I mean
they're on the clock.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
I don't think there's any doubt about that.
Speaker 8 (12:52):
Yeah, I hear what you're saying, but that's a historical perspective.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Yes, I'm looking at them from this year. Do you
have them in your epe?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I think I did at the stay the year.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Do you still have them in your eight I.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Would on that basis. Yeah, but I'm nervously awaiting it.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I'm barracking for them.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
I hope they get in because I think they've got
enough talent. I know they're young too, and people think
that's an excuse. That's also reality. But I hope they
play finals. I want to see different different clubs make finals.
Speaker 8 (13:18):
Well, they're going to need to win at least two
of those four games against the other heavyweights, and if
they do that, they'll deserve to be there.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
That game right there is going to be pretty pivotal
on Saturday night at I mean they have to go
in that. I don't know if they go as favorites
to whenever the book you thing, you have to be
favored to win that game if you want.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
To at home.
Speaker 8 (13:34):
Absolutely, and let's be brutally honest, Hawthorne a winning.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
But they're not flying, No, they're not.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
All right, Let's go the other storyline on the weekend,
and again it is the Carlton Football Club. Difficult times
for everyone at cart There's no question about that. But
when you get hammered by the art rival and the
manner that Colin would fix.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Them up on the weekend, it's so much room to move.
Speaker 11 (13:55):
It's been the sum of all fears from that Carlton perspective.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
No mercy on a wounded A photo from these bagpies.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Fourteen wins for the season for Kilt.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
If you're a Carton foan, you're thinking, I'm not sure
that Michael Foss has the answers. I'm not making sure
that Michael Foss has any way out of this.
Speaker 11 (14:16):
The thing watching Carlton, especially over the last three weeks,
I don't see any light at the end of the tuddle.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
Simply not good enough, and they put that on us players,
and we thankful responsibility of that.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
They are what they.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Are, and they are horrible kicking football horrible.
Speaker 12 (14:31):
But over a period of time you've created talented players
who feel entitled at that football club and they haven't
been able to get to a point where they work
hard enough when the game isn't going their way to
find a way through it.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I think it'll be a surprising if the coaches beyond
this year, but who knows.
Speaker 11 (14:50):
We let our cop down tonight. We want our supporters
to be proud of us, and we didn't do that tonight.
There's an expectation the way we want to be able
to play. We didn't do that tonight. We will have
to copy our way. Well, we have to copy because
that we can't tolerate that.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
That was a really poor fount.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
The end of the season can't come quick enough.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Because there's a been a groundhog day about this, So
I wanting to go back over old territory for people
at home. You took over the interim CEO role at
the Hawthorn Football This is not me having a joke.
This is dead serious. At the end of the O
four season at the time when they were struggling as well,
you appointed Alis the Clarkson amongst the whole raft of
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other changes, and I mean this is on the record
set them up for the unbelievable and very successful period
they had. So you're perfectly suited. So I've got four
questions for you. And if you can be as serious
as you can be, what do you need to see
in the final seven weeks from a cart point of.
Speaker 8 (15:49):
View, Well, let's park the coach for the moment. We
know there's going to be the seasons made down the track.
I want to see some player refort. I mean, the
fate of their season was long ago in twenty twenty five,
so they're not going to be playing files. But I
need to see some player effort. And there's players that
should be playing for their careers.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Did you not see player effort on the weekend.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
At different stages?
Speaker 8 (16:09):
I did, But there's recent weeks where I've doubted the
player effort. And some of that isn't deliberately saying I'm
not trying. It's the pressure. Everything the outside world's caving
in on them, and it kind of gets you down
and you just go into your own little bubble, and
maybe you don't try as hard or work as hard
as you perhaps could. I want to see some player
effort because some of these players must be playing for
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their career and they will have decisions made upon them
like the coach and others will.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
How do you measure it? How do you measure it
just by eye or what is this measurement?
Speaker 8 (16:39):
So I would prefer to use my eye. So I
think you can look at most games, and you can
look at the form of players, particularly those that you
have under the microscope, and you can say, well, right,
can he fight when the chips are down, when the
heat's on, when things aren't going right? Is he one
that we want in this jumper that's going to help
dig us out of a hole.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I would tell you that last three weeks have been
the blorable. So let's see what happens to you. How
much is on the second question for you, how much
on the coach? How much on the players.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
It's got to be shared. It's got to be shared.
Speaker 8 (17:07):
It's the coach, no doubt, is he getting the best
out of the players the players we've just spoken about.
But I also think you've got to sit there and say,
have we got the right assessment of what this list
looks like? Have we got enough quality on our list
for the coach to do what he needs to do.
And I think that has a question mark over it
as well.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Is he coaching to the list and what they're capable
of or should he be coaching to what successful teams
look like.
Speaker 8 (17:34):
That's a really difficult one because you want to get
the best out of your players, and sometimes that's not
necessarily playing the way that you think premiership football should
be played. But maybe it's time to start playing that
way and weed out the ones that can't play, the
ones that can't play to the way that you need
them to play. So there's a fine line between getting
the best out of players and then demanding that they
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fit into the system that you think is the one
that will take you forward.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Third question, could there was a stage there halfway through
or for most of that third quarter we were sitting
there on doing the game, thinking this could be hundred
points plus And I think most of us have arrived
at the conclusion that there won't be a movement on
a move on the coach until maybe the hopefully for
Bossy's sake not Could one disastrous blowout loss change it.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
No, I don't think so.
Speaker 8 (18:20):
I think with Graham right coming in now, he will
sit there, take all of this in. He will be
armed with all the relevant information. I'll get to the
end of the season and you'll go right bang in
every department, in the coaching department, in the playing department,
in the recruiting department, which you management department, they will
go through each line and they will go what do
we need to do?
Speaker 4 (18:38):
What do we need to change? And they'll go bang.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Which is the first appointment when you do your review
as you did, as I said at the end of
the time before you appointed Clark, was it?
Speaker 3 (18:47):
What's the first appointment? Is it the coaches?
Speaker 4 (18:48):
That we did the coach first, right.
Speaker 8 (18:51):
I'm not saying it's a hard and fast rule, but
I think everything tends to be in full place.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Then no, and then got the footy man.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Then we've got the footy manager after that, right.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Last one?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
How much of the outside noise do you listen to?
Speaker 4 (19:04):
None?
Speaker 3 (19:04):
And how do you I knew that'd be the answer,
So how.
Speaker 8 (19:07):
Do you import You've got to block it out. You
need to talk to your key stakeholders. You need to
keep them informed of the processes you're putting in place
and what you're going to do without giving away inside information.
But you can't try to appease the supporters. And I
don't say that in a nasty way, but there's too
much emotion involved. They will be appeased if and when
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you make.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
The right decisions because they will see that starting to
turn around.
Speaker 8 (19:30):
You've just got to get those decisions right. And that's
the challenge for Graham Right and company come the end
of the season.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Last one is he coaching next to you, Michael Boss?
Speaker 4 (19:39):
I hope, so, I hope.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
So right, we'll move on. There were some injuries on
the weekend.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
It was actually heartbreaking to see some of these chief
and let's go through it. Here's the fall out from
what was a terrible weekend.
Speaker 13 (19:53):
Sam obviously looks like an acl. We clearly will get
the skin back over the next couple of days. But
that's really really sad. You know, when I think about that,
it gets a bit sadder for me because it's my
last game of coaching Seam and he's been such a
great player for me. I mean, he's had a great week,
he's had a new baby, him and Briah and the family,
and he used to deal with that. But in typical
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Pep fashion, he'll deal with it. He'll have a couple
of days, it'll be pretty tough, and he'll be back.
I look forward to watching his first going back.
Speaker 14 (20:27):
Yeah, it was enough of a concern that we had
to stop him out and without going into eating more detail,
it's going to be a scan and on our.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Fingers across it looks like a bad one.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Which is really disappointing is he loves his club, but
he loves his teammates and he just wants to help. Yeah,
flatten us, not only flatten these teammates, but flatten us
as coaches, because not only the talent, but he just
deserves a good go at it. And we were really
cautious with him by giving him extra week and bringing
him a week later.
Speaker 14 (21:00):
We just we'll hope for the best. We'll see positive thoughts.
Speaker 13 (21:03):
I wish you a speedy recovery and I know he'll
be a great play for Port Adlai.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Further news coming up.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
We'll let you know. From a Sydney point of view
and also esident.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
But that's heartbreaking to Sam Power Pepper two ACLS just
at a baby. I'm not sure if he watches three six.
He probably does. Jose Our thoughts are with him. That
is that's real cruel blow for him.
Speaker 8 (21:19):
It is he did it, what three weeks into last
season as well. It's just come back. We're started to
play some good football. He's only twenty seven, so provided
he's still got the appetite to do that long rehab again,
let's hope we can see him back doing what we
know he can do, and that's charging in the packs,
kicking goals and helping his team.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Confirmed ACL, so surgery needed. Not from Joshua S.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Shelley's point of view, he hasn't done an ACL, but
he is going to have some surgery, which they suspect
he's going to keep him out for up to eight weeks,
which makes a run of the finals pretty difficult for
a really important part Adelaide.
Speaker 8 (21:48):
Setup may be able to come back for the finals,
though we don't know what his rehab process is going
to be like until they do the surgery and then
we'll get probably a little bit more information. It's a
nasty fear when you hyper extend your leg, when you
land like that, and often you can't pop your acl
So the good news is he hasn't. Obviously it has
to have some work done, but hopefully they can clean
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that up. He can rehab and maybe be that returning
player for a finals campaign for Adelaide. That might just
give them what they need to get through a couple
of weeks.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
No, I think it's really important to them. Gives them
something different than a forward six. And the other one
is Sam laul Or a young player taking a pick
number one obviously got to be a subject of much
fascination throughout the course of his career. Always number one
picks are hamstring. Again on the weekend, I know they
gave him an extra week. I am just popping up
for a cautionary tile for the rest of the competition
for these young players, not that they need to be told,
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and I'm not doubting that they take great care footy clubs,
and some clubs a better place than others to be
able to be super patient and even tuck some away.
But we ask so much of these kids coming out
of an underrating competition. We talked about the length of season.
It starts in March March the seventh. This season started
and it's still gone and there's three months still to go.
They get into the system, they get taught how to
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do weight, they don't get lift heavy weights. They have
to get them in and then all of a sudden,
within three probably four weeks, they're playing footy. I'm at
the stage now where you're looking at it and you're
going sixty five percent for first year player, eighty five
percent for a second year player. And I know not
everyone's going to be able to do that, but I
look at Gelong, Jason and the way they set up
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their players.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Some of the injuries to these kids I went through today, Ashcroft, Cox, Read.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Brayden, George, Josh Goder, Grangeer Brass Clark, Gibkes, Eldry Hewitt.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
It's it just breaks your heart.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Geelong Oli Dempsey, third year, wins An, a rising start.
Conrad Suldan plays one game last year they said you're
not ready, Wait until next year. The young kid that
played on the weekend, George Stevens twenty years of age.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
I know Geelong are in a great position, they can afford.
Speaker 8 (23:52):
It harder to break into that team as well for
some of the young it is I think I think
it's got to be horses for courses. Guess there are
some players. How can you hold back a kid that's
try the house down, that's far too good for VFL
and you sit there and say, no, we can't play it.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
I'm not ever worried about your getting in.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Not every week.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
It's going to be so difficult to do.
Speaker 8 (24:09):
And as you say, they gave him that extra week,
they said he could have played perhaps managed game time
that we bought up.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
We're not going to do that. We'll wait till he's
ready to play a full game. I think you've got
to back your medicals.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
You love your horses.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Though, if you spend a lot of money on a
young horse, you're not flogging the young horse.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
I'm not flogging. But I don't think we're flogging them.
They're chasing a dream.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
They want to play footage, and we want the dream
to go for twelve years.
Speaker 8 (24:29):
But you're telling them, I know you've got this dream,
but park it for this week.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
I am.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
That's very difficult.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Sometimes you've got to help them and protect them from themselves.
Speaker 8 (24:39):
True, I get that, but I think there are some
cases where when they're fit and they're firing, and they've
done everything that anyone can ask of them. There's no
reason to deny them playing.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
It's a very serious part of the show. But I'm
just going to lighten things out.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Jason, Oh you're not.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
I am. Now, what did you think of can Inkley
going for the lolla?
Speaker 8 (25:00):
You want to think I wouldn't have come in, but
I knew you were going to do that. And let
me tell you, Kenny's doing it a hell a lot
better than you.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Guess you flog.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
You're gonna get I'm not gonna go on with it.
Let's get the coaches. Jason donated the LOLLI no.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
You shouldn't, cos he's going to join us in Sydney
and Brad Scott's gonna come and sit in this studia.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
I can't believe you hate that. Jason said it be
The heat rises on Justin Long muwers men after dropping
a game to the Swans and dropping out of.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
The eight, the brutal fallout from a bruising weekend, the
toll of Round seventeen with serious knee and hamstring injuries,
and our coaches.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Join us this Monday won a winner.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Wanna lose?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Dean Cox and Brad Scott with their Round sevenem review.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
We talked about is a step into it, debrace all.
Speaker 5 (00:26):
Of it, hit in the room and reason it's Uneedi
fine for a senior coach to do that on the
side of caution with the brain hate the man on.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
They played the best free I've.
Speaker 6 (00:35):
Ever seen at the start of a season and injury,
said president.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
I left. The couple older said hell.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Of course they do. It is the stuff that legends
are made of. What is holding the ball? I don't
think I could answer it clearly right now.
Speaker 7 (00:45):
I'm to do something wrong, you know, and I need
to go and the boards actually the fans lover and
with no fans no through sixty year old, how welcome.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
To AFL three sixty for one of the rare occasions.
Jared Weekly not in the main chair.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I'm filling in They said, who across the broad landscape
that his AFL media would you like to have alongside you?
I said, Jason does so they said, let Jason have
a night off, and then I said no, and Jason
demanded that he come in and support me tonight. Which
is this sort of solidarity I expect from the great man,
the AFL Hall of Fame legend. Here on a Monday,
welcome to.
Speaker 8 (01:25):
You, good evening, gazz and nowhere I'd rather be, well,
a couple of places i'd rather in fact, the more
I think about it, lots of places i'd rather be.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
But you know what, let's be brutally honest.
Speaker 8 (01:34):
We're heading into window and that's normally a time where
we don't get as excited about the footage. But I
think the action's about to start heating up and we're
starting to talk about the business end of the season
not to look forward to.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Are you sure you don't bring your diss engenuous exit mate.
The last couple of weeks have been a laborious process. Yes, true,
teams that haven't been. This weekend, well, let's have a
look at this weekend because I think for the first
time we can get a little bit excited, although well.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Very clever fashion.
Speaker 8 (01:58):
We've left Thursday Night off Thursday Night Carlton brist but look.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
At the matchups after that. There are some beauties.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
That's a big you're a Queenslander, that's as big a
game from an AFL point of view. We've got up
there the Gold Coast Suns hosting Collingwood in the school
holiday program, so that'll be packed out that you and
we'll find out about the Suns.
Speaker 8 (02:16):
That's going to be well when you get I mean,
we complained about the bottom nine playing the top nine
last week. Now we got eight of the top nine
playing each other, so we're going to start to find
out about some of these teams.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
That's absolutely outstanding, and we get bound to Freemantle are
going to be a big story tonight.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
We have got a lot to look forward to tonight.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
But there's been a story that's emerges this afternoon speaking
of how long the season goes and some I think
personally that's way too long. I've been on the record
of saying that for some time now. They're speaking about
an NBA style in season type competition.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Jason.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
This story is released this afternoon, an AFL Cup potentially
five million dollars of prize money, a finals place maybe
for the team that wins, and then also speculating about
bringing back some former stars like Buddy Franklin.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
And dust Than Martin. What say you to this extraordinary
news breakup?
Speaker 8 (03:04):
I applaud the fact that we have forums and think
tanks and get togethers. I think it's really important, and
we do tend to follow a lot of what.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Happens in the US as far as sport goes.
Speaker 8 (03:15):
And I love the CEOs being imaginative. I love them
being entrepreneurial. But I'm not sure watching the water up there, Gary,
because I see this is fraught with danger. Well, we've
gone through the phases of having a pre season comp
or a night comp during the season. Yes, now we're
talking about a season being too long. We're going to
shorten the home and away season to play these other
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games which make the season.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Just as long as it was.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yes.
Speaker 8 (03:40):
Plus, you're going to find a lot of players get
rested for that because they're more concerned about the Premiership.
You'll get injuries to some that do play in it,
and there'll be clubs going up in arms about that
and what impact does it have on some of the awards.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
So as they're quite flying exercises, I think we need
to challenge away with it about it.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
I get that, and that's smart that they're doing that
your NBA.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
What you're on night, Does it work in the NBA?
Speaker 8 (04:06):
Yeah, But the games that they use in the NBA
Cup count for the overall as well, right, so it's
a little bit it's a little bit different.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
What's the difference there.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
It's just it's just throw an extra prize money for
a block of games.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Is that what they're doing.
Speaker 8 (04:17):
From an NBA Well, the one you're talking about though
from the AFL perspective.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Is No, that's completely separate.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Yeah, they're separate, so they're not home and away gos.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
So different to what they're doing in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
What I do like about this is that once Tasmania
comes in, on the assumption that they do, then we're
going to have nineteen teams.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
The talk is they'll play each other once.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Now, the sooner we get to that scenario, the better
for terms of some sort of quality in the drawer
or the fixture, and then maybe you gather around game
and maybe a rivalry round, which brings it to the
twenty game season.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
That sounds pretty.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Good, but we keep.
Speaker 8 (04:51):
We're going around in circles. We're like a dog trying
to bite its own tail. We bemoaned how long the
season was. The league decided to pay the players more
money to lengthen the season so that we get a
bigger broadcast deal to get more revenue and more people
involved in the game. So you can't have one without
the other.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
No, and maybe it is just a kite flying exercise.
I think this time last year they did the same
thing and spoke about it. It's the three Grand Finals,
so maybe they just test in the water. They didn't
get here, Jason, he got a big show tonight, looking
forward to having the two coaches come in and join us,
Brad Scott and Dean Cox. Big win for the Sydney
Swan season. Still alive. Injury news around both those clubs.
That will be able to update you with the course.
And then if sorry on the couch tonight following us, well,
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Joey goes into.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
The let's see you'll do it well, he'll do it
well well you want to hope.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
So Jordan Brownie and Buckley Nathan Buckley of course, and
then tomorrow night we will be joined by our players
Josh Akos and Toby Green, Ray's array and then our coaches,
so our former coaches Simon good, John Romeyer and Adam
Simpson as well. Let's get to the biggest award in football. Jason,
I know you're fascinated with this as well.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
I'm surprised I let you do it.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
What do you mean you're surprised? Have you do? It's
the GVP.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
It's the Mustang g T fastback value at ninety eight
three thousand dollars if you don't mind iconic design, unreal performance,
five liters v eight that's just cruising around Albert Park,
broke the track record and the votes are eagerly waited.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
It's a spectacular prize, the best.
Speaker 8 (06:20):
I'm just concerned about the quality of the votes that
have been given, and you let Joey have a crack
at at last.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I had no saying that.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I wasn't happy about that. But I can only give
a three or two on a one, so feel free.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
To argue you're giving the one two.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
The one goes to the Saia Wanganneen Miller for a
game that you and I both watched on the Saturday
night at Marvel Stadium.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
He was He was outstanding in a.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Game that wasn't an absolute highlight forty three touches to
eleven score involvements.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
But this is why I loved it.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
He had eight inside fifties and eight rebound fifteen, so
both ends.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Any arguments there, No.
Speaker 8 (06:52):
It would have been a three vote game because you
should have kicked three or four goals. Yes, that would
have taken him right over the top.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
That's a very good points why one of the work
with you to night, which takes us to the two vote,
which goes to Isaac rank and who did take his
opportunities in the game. That was very, very delicately poised
for the Adelaie Crows. They were looking like they might
lose this for the fifth time in a row against Melbourne.
They're twenty eight points down the second quarter and then
Isaac Rankin sent in that not on my watch, kick
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two goals in the second, ticked two goals in the third,
ended up with five for the night, and he was
the difference between winning and losing.
Speaker 8 (07:25):
He single handedly kept them innute when no one else
was getting much of the ball early on and they
needed to find a way to stay with Melbourne. He
was the one that was getting it done and then
he just worked himself into a hanfl over the course
of the game. So he's a class act, really important player.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
He's nice Fadlaide if he starts to hit his absolute best.
And the three went to Zach Bailey as a player
who I think we've longered mind for a long time.
The Brisbane lines playing through the middle, would like to
get into the middle, but it has to play a
bit on the periphery. But they're in a little bit
of strife early. They looked over up three goals very
early against the fight up Port Adelaide, and then they
played perhaps the most blistering ten or fifteen minutes of
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footy for the year and he was in the middle
of it. Twenty six touches, five goals, twelve score involvements.
Speaker 8 (08:06):
He's an exciting player. And let me tell you right now,
when he sees those big white sticks, Gary, yes, he
can seriously pin the years back. He goes like a
shot out of a gun. He's a ripper. He's got
a little bit of that X factor that they need
as well.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Not that interested in handing him off, is he?
Speaker 6 (08:23):
No?
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Why would you be leaderboard right now. Danish jumped right
out of the blocks early in the PA.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
It's interesting.
Speaker 8 (08:31):
I look at the totals there and I don't see
Nick Dakos anywhere.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Is there something? What does he have to do to
get back? You know what?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
He was probably the fourth player behind those three on
the weekend.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
For about the fourteenth week in a row.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Sound like our boss. So there it is, says the leaderboard. Right,
let's get into our biggest story.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
The Freemantle Football Club had been in really good form,
won five games in a row, drop one on the
weekend to a reborn Sydney Swan's and all of a
sudden find themselves under pressure and add the eight.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
Season is so life for the Sydney Swans and for Freemantle.
You don't want to be the kid without a seat when.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
The music stops.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
Right now they don't have a seat for September. So
that man justin romure a difference between making the eighth
and not making it.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
There's not right now.
Speaker 9 (09:30):
We've did the ladder since the game. But I'd imagine
right we're a game out of before or equals someone
in the four lights. Yeah we lost the game. We're
not out of it.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Keep fighting, keep fighting.
Speaker 10 (09:41):
I think that he has to play finals this year
in his sixth season, to show that he is the
man and all the evidence put before us.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
You have to question for the Hawthorne.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Game coming up this week's he'll be one of the
biggest games for the football club in a long time.
Can they handle the expectation and the pressure that comes
with playing in a game that's going.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
To mean so much.
Speaker 9 (09:59):
A we're going to go through the rest of the
season and not lose, probably hope from that, but it's
a realistic loss was going to come. We were reviewing
the same as what we reviewed our six wins. Get
better John Beadlethorn next week.
Speaker 10 (10:14):
Is he the guy to take them all the way
to a premiership sixty year?
Speaker 4 (10:19):
I have no doubt.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
As bad as strong from not on first crack, the
biggest losers from the weekend, there's no question about that.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
We'll have a look at the ladder.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
So they find themselves outside the top eights after going
in in sixth position Chiefs, they go down the ninth
good sides come in and the Sydney Swines outside of
there still think they're a chance as well.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I mean that's strong from King.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
It is.
Speaker 8 (10:45):
I find the rhetoric around Fremantle rather extraordinary, to be
brutally honest. I mean, it's not like the top eight
or nine teams aren't going to all win their way home.
I mean most of them have got three, four, five
games against each other in the top and let's be
brually honest. We're talking about a free zero team that
just won six on the trot, they dropped one game
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and it just happens to be a team that played
in the Grand Final last year. A team that all
of a sudden gets Callam Mills the skipper back with
a few games under his belt, Papley who got injured
but he's enormous when he comes back in.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
And Errol Gulden, who is class with a capital C.
Speaker 8 (11:20):
So you can just see the confidence of the entire
Sydney team has lifted. They've been resurgent in recent weeks.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
It's hardly a horrible.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Loss, right, So the question that I have for you
then on the Bay, on the back of that, they've
got seven games to go, four at home, three away.
They play Hawthorne, Collingwood, then games against the Eagles. They
should win and Carlton. They should win Port Adelaide, you'd
say they should as well, and they finished.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
With Brison the Bullies.
Speaker 8 (11:43):
So they're the four game those four that you mentioned Hawthorne,
Colin had Brisbane Weston Bullies.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
That's when we judge Freut.
Speaker 8 (11:48):
That's when they've got a chance to force their way
in playing against the big boys. But I mean they
have won six in a row and they drop one
and we're jumping down their throat.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Because we don't trust them.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
That's why as a footy as a footy world at
the moment, and they will bristle and rail at them
and as they should, but we don't yet quite trust
them because with four ns to go last year they're
third on the ladder. Jase, this is why you don't
trust them. They're third on the ladder with four games
to go last year and they lose them all.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Let's not forget.
Speaker 8 (12:17):
We haven't trusted Gold Coast since they've been more competition.
Trust and you're still not trusting well, not until they've
forced their way in, they've proven themselves and they actually
play finals.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
We don't trust the different the Gold Coast.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
I mean this is their thirtieth year now, the three
other teams that you can compare this football side with
The Adelaide Crows took seven years to win a Grand five,
the West Coast Eagles took six years, and Port Adelaide
took eight.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
They're in their thirtieth year.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
They've played in a prelim, a couple of prelims and
a Grand found without winning one, so that I mean
they're on the clock.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
I don't think there's any doubt about that.
Speaker 8 (12:52):
Yeah, I hear what you're saying, but that's a historical perspective.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Yes, I'm looking at them from this year. Do you
have them in your epe?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I think I did at the stay the year.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Do you still have them in your eight I.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Would on that basis. Yeah, but I'm nervously awaiting it.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I'm barracking for them.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
I hope they get in because I think they've got
enough talent. I know they're young too, and people think
that's an excuse. That's also reality. But I hope they
play finals. I want to see different different clubs make finals.
Speaker 8 (13:18):
Well, they're going to need to win at least two
of those four games against the other heavyweights, and if
they do that, they'll deserve to be there.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
That game right there is going to be pretty pivotal
on Saturday night at I mean they have to go
in that. I don't know if they go as favorites
to whenever the book you thing, you have to be
favored to win that game if you want.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
To at home.
Speaker 8 (13:34):
Absolutely, and let's be brutally honest, Hawthorne a winning.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
But they're not flying, No, they're not.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
All right, Let's go the other storyline on the weekend,
and again it is the Carlton Football Club. Difficult times
for everyone at cart There's no question about that. But
when you get hammered by the art rival and the
manner that Colin would fix.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Them up on the weekend, it's so much room to move.
Speaker 11 (13:55):
It's been the sum of all fears from that Carlton perspective.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
No mercy on a wounded A photo from these bagpies.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Fourteen wins for the season for Kilt.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
If you're a Carton foan, you're thinking, I'm not sure
that Michael Foss has the answers. I'm not making sure
that Michael Foss has any way out of this.
Speaker 11 (14:16):
The thing watching Carlton, especially over the last three weeks,
I don't see any light at the end of the tuddle.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
Simply not good enough, and they put that on us players,
and we thankful responsibility of that.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
They are what they.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Are, and they are horrible kicking football horrible.
Speaker 12 (14:31):
But over a period of time you've created talented players
who feel entitled at that football club and they haven't
been able to get to a point where they work
hard enough when the game isn't going their way to
find a way through it.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I think it'll be a surprising if the coaches beyond
this year, but who knows.
Speaker 11 (14:50):
We let our cop down tonight. We want our supporters
to be proud of us, and we didn't do that tonight.
There's an expectation the way we want to be able
to play. We didn't do that tonight. We will have
to copy our way. Well, we have to copy because
that we can't tolerate that.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
That was a really poor fount.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
The end of the season can't come quick enough.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Because there's a been a groundhog day about this, So
I wanting to go back over old territory for people
at home. You took over the interim CEO role at
the Hawthorn Football This is not me having a joke.
This is dead serious. At the end of the O
four season at the time when they were struggling as well,
you appointed Alis the Clarkson amongst the whole raft of
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other changes, and I mean this is on the record
set them up for the unbelievable and very successful period
they had. So you're perfectly suited. So I've got four
questions for you. And if you can be as serious
as you can be, what do you need to see
in the final seven weeks from a cart point of.
Speaker 8 (15:49):
View, Well, let's park the coach for the moment. We
know there's going to be the seasons made down the track.
I want to see some player refort. I mean, the
fate of their season was long ago in twenty twenty five,
so they're not going to be playing files. But I
need to see some player effort. And there's players that
should be playing for their careers.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Did you not see player effort on the weekend.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
At different stages?
Speaker 8 (16:09):
I did, But there's recent weeks where I've doubted the
player effort. And some of that isn't deliberately saying I'm
not trying. It's the pressure. Everything the outside world's caving
in on them, and it kind of gets you down
and you just go into your own little bubble, and
maybe you don't try as hard or work as hard
as you perhaps could. I want to see some player
effort because some of these players must be playing for
(16:31):
their career and they will have decisions made upon them
like the coach and others will.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
How do you measure it? How do you measure it
just by eye or what is this measurement?
Speaker 8 (16:39):
So I would prefer to use my eye. So I
think you can look at most games, and you can
look at the form of players, particularly those that you
have under the microscope, and you can say, well, right,
can he fight when the chips are down, when the
heat's on, when things aren't going right? Is he one
that we want in this jumper that's going to help
dig us out of a hole.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I would tell you that last three weeks have been
the blorable. So let's see what happens to you. How
much is on the second question for you, how much
on the coach? How much on the players.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
It's got to be shared. It's got to be shared.
Speaker 8 (17:07):
It's the coach, no doubt, is he getting the best
out of the players the players we've just spoken about.
But I also think you've got to sit there and say,
have we got the right assessment of what this list
looks like? Have we got enough quality on our list
for the coach to do what he needs to do.
And I think that has a question mark over it
as well.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Is he coaching to the list and what they're capable
of or should he be coaching to what successful teams
look like.
Speaker 8 (17:34):
That's a really difficult one because you want to get
the best out of your players, and sometimes that's not
necessarily playing the way that you think premiership football should
be played. But maybe it's time to start playing that
way and weed out the ones that can't play, the
ones that can't play to the way that you need
them to play. So there's a fine line between getting
the best out of players and then demanding that they
(17:56):
fit into the system that you think is the one
that will take you forward.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Third question, could there was a stage there halfway through
or for most of that third quarter we were sitting
there on doing the game, thinking this could be hundred
points plus And I think most of us have arrived
at the conclusion that there won't be a movement on
a move on the coach until maybe the hopefully for
Bossy's sake not Could one disastrous blowout loss change it.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
No, I don't think so.
Speaker 8 (18:20):
I think with Graham right coming in now, he will
sit there, take all of this in. He will be
armed with all the relevant information. I'll get to the
end of the season and you'll go right bang in
every department, in the coaching department, in the playing department,
in the recruiting department, which you management department, they will
go through each line and they will go what do
we need to do?
Speaker 4 (18:38):
What do we need to change? And they'll go bang.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Which is the first appointment when you do your review
as you did, as I said at the end of
the time before you appointed Clark, was it?
Speaker 3 (18:47):
What's the first appointment? Is it the coaches?
Speaker 4 (18:48):
That we did the coach first, right.
Speaker 8 (18:51):
I'm not saying it's a hard and fast rule, but
I think everything tends to be in full place.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Then no, and then got the footy man.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Then we've got the footy manager after that, right.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Last one?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
How much of the outside noise do you listen to?
Speaker 4 (19:04):
None?
Speaker 3 (19:04):
And how do you I knew that'd be the answer,
So how.
Speaker 8 (19:07):
Do you import You've got to block it out. You
need to talk to your key stakeholders. You need to
keep them informed of the processes you're putting in place
and what you're going to do without giving away inside information.
But you can't try to appease the supporters. And I
don't say that in a nasty way, but there's too
much emotion involved. They will be appeased if and when
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you make.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
The right decisions because they will see that starting to
turn around.
Speaker 8 (19:30):
You've just got to get those decisions right. And that's
the challenge for Graham Right and company come the end
of the season.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Last one is he coaching next to you, Michael Boss?
Speaker 4 (19:39):
I hope, so, I hope.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
So right, we'll move on. There were some injuries on
the weekend.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
It was actually heartbreaking to see some of these chief
and let's go through it. Here's the fall out from
what was a terrible weekend.
Speaker 13 (19:53):
Sam obviously looks like an acl. We clearly will get
the skin back over the next couple of days. But
that's really really sad. You know, when I think about that,
it gets a bit sadder for me because it's my
last game of coaching Seam and he's been such a
great player for me. I mean, he's had a great week,
he's had a new baby, him and Briah and the family,
and he used to deal with that. But in typical
(20:16):
Pep fashion, he'll deal with it. He'll have a couple
of days, it'll be pretty tough, and he'll be back.
I look forward to watching his first going back.
Speaker 14 (20:27):
Yeah, it was enough of a concern that we had
to stop him out and without going into eating more detail,
it's going to be a scan and on our.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Fingers across it looks like a bad one.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Which is really disappointing is he loves his club, but
he loves his teammates and he just wants to help. Yeah,
flatten us, not only flatten these teammates, but flatten us
as coaches, because not only the talent, but he just
deserves a good go at it. And we were really
cautious with him by giving him extra week and bringing
him a week later.
Speaker 14 (21:00):
We just we'll hope for the best. We'll see positive thoughts.
Speaker 13 (21:03):
I wish you a speedy recovery and I know he'll
be a great play for Port Adlai.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Further news coming up.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
We'll let you know. From a Sydney point of view
and also esident.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
But that's heartbreaking to Sam Power Pepper two ACLS just
at a baby. I'm not sure if he watches three six.
He probably does. Jose Our thoughts are with him. That
is that's real cruel blow for him.
Speaker 8 (21:19):
It is he did it, what three weeks into last
season as well. It's just come back. We're started to
play some good football. He's only twenty seven, so provided
he's still got the appetite to do that long rehab again,
let's hope we can see him back doing what we
know he can do, and that's charging in the packs,
kicking goals and helping his team.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Confirmed ACL, so surgery needed. Not from Joshua S.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Shelley's point of view, he hasn't done an ACL, but
he is going to have some surgery, which they suspect
he's going to keep him out for up to eight weeks,
which makes a run of the finals pretty difficult for
a really important part Adelaide.
Speaker 8 (21:48):
Setup may be able to come back for the finals,
though we don't know what his rehab process is going
to be like until they do the surgery and then
we'll get probably a little bit more information. It's a
nasty fear when you hyper extend your leg, when you
land like that, and often you can't pop your acl
So the good news is he hasn't. Obviously it has
to have some work done, but hopefully they can clean
(22:09):
that up. He can rehab and maybe be that returning
player for a finals campaign for Adelaide. That might just
give them what they need to get through a couple
of weeks.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
No, I think it's really important to them. Gives them
something different than a forward six. And the other one
is Sam laul Or a young player taking a pick
number one obviously got to be a subject of much
fascination throughout the course of his career. Always number one
picks are hamstring. Again on the weekend, I know they
gave him an extra week. I am just popping up
for a cautionary tile for the rest of the competition
for these young players, not that they need to be told,
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and I'm not doubting that they take great care footy clubs,
and some clubs a better place than others to be
able to be super patient and even tuck some away.
But we ask so much of these kids coming out
of an underrating competition. We talked about the length of season.
It starts in March March the seventh. This season started
and it's still gone and there's three months still to go.
They get into the system, they get taught how to
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do weight, they don't get lift heavy weights. They have
to get them in and then all of a sudden,
within three probably four weeks, they're playing footy. I'm at
the stage now where you're looking at it and you're
going sixty five percent for first year player, eighty five
percent for a second year player. And I know not
everyone's going to be able to do that, but I
look at Gelong, Jason and the way they set up
(23:24):
their players.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Some of the injuries to these kids I went through today, Ashcroft, Cox, Read.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Brayden, George, Josh Goder, Grangeer Brass Clark, Gibkes, Eldry Hewitt.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
It's it just breaks your heart.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Geelong Oli Dempsey, third year, wins An, a rising start.
Conrad Suldan plays one game last year they said you're
not ready, Wait until next year. The young kid that
played on the weekend, George Stevens twenty years of age.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
I know Geelong are in a great position, they can afford.
Speaker 8 (23:52):
It harder to break into that team as well for
some of the young it is I think I think
it's got to be horses for courses. Guess there are
some players. How can you hold back a kid that's
try the house down, that's far too good for VFL
and you sit there and say, no, we can't play it.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
I'm not ever worried about your getting in.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Not every week.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
It's going to be so difficult to do.
Speaker 8 (24:09):
And as you say, they gave him that extra week,
they said he could have played perhaps managed game time
that we bought up.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
We're not going to do that. We'll wait till he's
ready to play a full game. I think you've got
to back your medicals.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
You love your horses.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Though, if you spend a lot of money on a
young horse, you're not flogging the young horse.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
I'm not flogging. But I don't think we're flogging them.
They're chasing a dream.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
They want to play footage, and we want the dream
to go for twelve years.
Speaker 8 (24:29):
But you're telling them, I know you've got this dream,
but park it for this week.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
I am.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
That's very difficult.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Sometimes you've got to help them and protect them from themselves.
Speaker 8 (24:39):
True, I get that, but I think there are some
cases where when they're fit and they're firing, and they've
done everything that anyone can ask of them. There's no
reason to deny them playing.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
It's a very serious part of the show. But I'm
just going to lighten things out.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Jason, Oh you're not.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
I am. Now, what did you think of can Inkley
going for the lolla?
Speaker 8 (25:00):
You want to think I wouldn't have come in, but
I knew you were going to do that. And let
me tell you, Kenny's doing it a hell a lot
better than you.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Guess you flog.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
You're gonna get I'm not gonna go on with it.
Let's get the coaches. Jason donated the LOLLI no.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
You shouldn't, cos he's going to join us in Sydney
and Brad Scott's gonna come and sit in this studia.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
I can't believe you hate that. Jason said it be
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