August 26, 2025 • 22 mins
Catch up on all the footy news from AFL 360, Tuesday 26th of August with Gerard Whateley and Garry Lyon.
Gerard Whateley and Garry Lyon return for a big edition of AFL 360, breaking down the huge news of Jack Silvagni reportedly leaving the Blues and Harley Reid signing a contract extension in what Garry describes as a 'Judd template' contract. Also, Collingwood coach Craig McRae joins the show ahead of the Pies return to September.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Only premiership coaches need apply.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Tonight's the men who know what it takes to lift
the cup set up the September quest.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
The last teams for the regular season have been lodged
as the Sun steal themselves for the must.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
Win class with Essendon and Harley Reid extends his time
with the Eagles, the number one pick, resisting the long
term law, adding two years to his contracts.
Speaker 5 (00:26):
We talked about his step into it, embrace all of
it in the room and eat.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
It's unedifying for a senior coach to do that. They're
on the side of Courtia with the brain tape. The
man on they played the best footy I've.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Ever seen at the start of the season, and President
left the cup over said, of course they do.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
It is the stuff that legends are made of.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
What is holding the ball? I don't think I could
answer it clearly right now that I could do something wrong,
you know, And I need to get and the boards
actually the fans lover and with no fans, no through
sixty year old.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
The winter bit back hard today in Melbourne, gas and
in the western suburbs. The most miserable sight you could
imagine in a footing season. The Western Bulldogs, who are
condemned to a purgatory no team should ever have to live,
were sent out onto the training track just in case
Gold Coast take the gas tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
How would you have gone with this?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I would have made them train for three hours mouthguards
in contest after contest after contest. The alternative would be
sitting in a pub with open fire, going just drowning
your sorrows. Know That's what probably they were steering at
if they we didn't have this convoluted extra game. But no,
this is These are rare and unique scenes, aren't They
(01:44):
Never to be repeated, never ever to be repeated, Because
that doesn't matter how strong will you are. Your mind
just goes to tomorrow night. You think nah, nah, I
think no.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
If you're a Bulldogs players put binge on watch the
new season fact, well, don't subject yourself to it and
have a WhatsApp group. If it's necessary to turn on
with ten minutes to go, then flick across.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I don't know many Gold Coasts and supporters. We have
one here, God loving, so for this sake, I hope
they win, but imagine if they didn't.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
It would be one of the greatest.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Stories, not great one of all the backtracking that they
have to go from.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
All of the punts and then they'll beat the Giant,
but then all of a sudden they're in a semi final.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I'll get to the pre lim and then we'll go
Le's go back to that week when they lost that game.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
We digress. Here's all we have coming tonight.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Three premiership coaches all lined up. Chris got, Craig McCrae
and Chris Fagan to join us and then they come
into their own at this time of year with the
news with the contract news midweek tackle Lawrence leading MAKA
and Ralphie.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Tomorrow nights we'll be.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Your pregame show ahead of Gold Coast and Essendon and
first Crack will come in the immediate after. Mark damien
Hart will join us in the build up to a
historic night on offer for the Suns and then Thursday
night the AFL Awards, the All Australian team will be unveiled,
the Coaches Association Player of the Year, the Lee Matthews
Trophy for the MVP. We've got to look at the
forty four man squad from which the All Australian will
(03:11):
be selected. Four teams dominate with five each Adelaide Brisbane,
Gold Coaster and the Western Bulldogs. There were none for Carlton, Essendon,
West Coast and North Melbourne. The most contentious of those
would be Tristan Sherry I think, who for a long
time was thought to be the ruckman. Twenty eight players
are striving for their first Blazer two. Hugh McCluggage has
been in four squads. Tom libertore has been in two.
(03:33):
Will they see the main squad this time? Max Gorn
a chance for a record equaling eighth all Australian and
only eight of last year's team returned to the squad.
So you do your picks for tomorrow night.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
I will.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Now there's a couple that jump out at me, which
I think a great footy story, So we'll get stuck
into that tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
All right, let's have a look at the teams that
have landed for tomorrow night's game. There are three changes
for Gold Coast. They are all by choice. Certainly two
of them make them significantly stronger. Rioli and Humphrey are
back from injury. Jake Rodgers, who haven't seen since Round nine,
has been reignited. Sexton Adams and Lockey goldbin. Max Lawton
points out he will be the first player in league
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history to both debut and be dropped in the same mountains,
and Essendon get back there too. Lates outs from last
week Durham and la Verde makes them stronger. Gresham hasn't
made the trip for personal reasons and Johnson's been omitted.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah, so both teams are stronger for the inns, which
will hopefully from an Adelaie Nessing point of view, make
a little bit more competitive.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
But no mucking around.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
From Dimmer's perspective, I think he's really important Bailey Humphy
to come back into this side, as is Dan Reli.
We spoke to him a couple of weeks ago and
he said he Dan was sort of eyeing off of
comeback with the first week of the finals. He may
have been a little bit optimistic. So he's been I
wouldn't say rush back in. He's ready to go. But
this is you can't miss step here from a gold
(04:55):
cot Son's point of view, and they've picked a stronger
side than they did last week.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
That's all we can do, right, We'll dig deep into
that tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
The contract news as it's landed today So Harley Reid
has extended his by two years at West Coast, so
he had next year to run and he's added two.
This is the perfect contract, in my opinion, to do.
It's the one that in the modern landscape gets looked
over too much. It allows Harley to grow into the
player that he's going to be three years, four and five.
There's heavy incentives if he becomes the Eagles' best player.
(05:24):
He'll earned two million dollars during those years, and it
allows West Coast to grow with him and show him
that they are worthy of his long term commitment. For
manager and for player and for club. I personally salute this.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Now it ticks all around here.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
This is the Chris Judd template being deployed with Harley,
and it's a great template. Juddy gave great service to
the club, captain them to a premiership and then came
back to Victoria. And I'm not suggesting that Harley will
come back, but it gives him the option to come back.
So Juddy came back after six years. This sees Harley
through five and then, as you say, they'll make it
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a seat. With all of the information in front of him,
it's good. Next year he plays hopefully with Elliot O
and the midfield alongsideing with Tom mccarthur, who's had a
fantastic season. You throw Harley in their waterman at the
other end of the ground. Baker will be better for
having a year. Chessa looks as better as the year
wore on, so he will enjoy his football much.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
More next year, one would hope.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
And it's interesting, great sign for a team that's been
kicked in the head affair bit over the last couple
of years.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, it's important all round. So let's hope that that
goes well on a Carlton front. As the car park
today was a bit of a spectacle as the exit
interviews began and Jack Sylvanne confirmed to the club that
he's going to exercise his rights for free agency.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
This is what he was saying on the way.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Have your head around potentially leaving the club.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Yeah, potentially it's something not working on the next couple
of days and well.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Coming out and n what it means to you to
walk away from the club with your boyhood club obviously,
I have a I love the club very much, so
it would be a big decision to make.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Thanks it is.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
A big decision because it's an name that has bound
the generations at Carlton. But this has felt inevitable for
the back half of the season and it feels like
a choice between Collingwood and the Bulldogs. There's no need
to tip his hand yet because the free agency period
doesn't start till after the Grand Final.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Undignified.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
I understand the boys they're doing the door stopping, have
to do their job, but I wish there's a better
way to do that and jam and microphones in his face.
Charlie Kerna, I understand, I get it, but I'd like
to see move better than that.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Where he ends up, well, it'll.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Be interesting one of two, you, suspect Raably, we might
talk to one of their coaches about that.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
They're both good landing zones for him. They both have needs,
both needed Phil's, doesn't he.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, he's not the big key that probably know the
Western Bulldogs need, but he's a great support act.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
All right.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Let's get get into our agenda, and it does belong
to the past three Premiership coaches, those who have done it,
those who know how to do it. We start with
Craig McCrae, who's Magpies have lived both journeys in the
same season, runaway leaders.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
And holding on the skin of their teeth. Don't you
want to be them? The top of the parts talking when.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
The teeth of beat hed twenty twenty five O one
pint When to the pies, you just can't beat him
in close finishes, you just can't beat them.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
History says it's hard to lead Bay out of wire,
so you're not quite gonna go wide?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Or which is it? The other year?
Speaker 5 (08:33):
I keep hearing that we're paying too well. Apparently I can't.
I can't. I can't have that. I said, what do
you want us to play worse? No, No, I just
don't get it. We're just we're in the positions getting better.
That's what we try to do. We want to we
want to improve ourselves. We got to please source today,
we got to heap improvements. Left to this.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
Colirod has done nothing less than sell them States Premiership.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Missing sixteen wins and a good percentage. I'm sure anyone
in this room would be pretty happy with that. At
start of the year. It's a crazy year when sixteen
sort of you're not sure we're going to land. Yeah,
we we celebrated that to stuff with our whole group
and how we put ourselves.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
We got a posset in were a life.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Top four finished and a trip back to Adelaide having
just done that a couple of weeks ago. The Collingwood
coach Craig McCrae is with us in the studio. Craig
always great to have sixty welcome.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Go to see Jared.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I was driving home on Friday night, listening on the radio,
got home for the last quarter, thinking did you get
to it?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Did you get to the last quarter of Port Adelaide?
Speaker 5 (09:43):
I stayed around in the rooms funny enough, and I
left my press conference and went straight into the little
coaches room there and we had a gathering of people there.
And I've never ride it. I've never cheered for Port,
but I didn't. I did that night. Yeah, I was.
I was riding every bump yep.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Does that feel having under premiership and then missed the
final series altogether? And mean, it's the feeling that you
have now, not a greater appreciation because everyone knows how
important it is, but nice to be back in.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Yeah. Absolutely, And you set yourself a long time ago.
You know, we've had a long time to think about
this campaign and you have a lot of hard work
going into it, and I was really excited after the
game one that get a selves moving and it gets
Melbour played extremely well and to get over the line
with some energy of wanting to win. And then yeah,
(10:30):
just to know that we're in the finals potentially top
four was it was really exciting.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah, two years ago you used this week especially well.
It became the starting off point for the club's documentary.
So does that have you been thinking about this week?
How to frame it, what you're about to do, given
what you've been through before.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
I haven't slept dured. There's been many little things trying
to get this right up. We've got to gathering at
the MCG tomorrow afternoon, and yeah, we said a new
new thing because it's a new season, and we realized that,
like back from qualifying days, you've got to get yourself
in a position to be here. We are here now
and we'd like to think we've got as good a
chance as anyone and we want to reset our focus.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Is this a team that can gather in that sort
of way.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Yeah, Well, you know, we've got accused of having the
most experienced and you know, the oldest list in the competition.
This is when you want it, and so we like
to think there's a lot of reasons why we can
go deep.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
It's an interesting that in itself is interesting, isn't it,
because the narrative was really strong pre game pre season.
Rather you lose that first guard and the ridiculous knee jeck,
we get all that, but there's is attrition, you know
it as well as anyone. And then the back half's
been you know, it's been hard work. You've got there
is Do you put that down to that in.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Any way shape or well, there's no doubt. You know,
we had a period where we played three games twelve
days and we looked at ourselves in the mirrors and
I don't think we managed that that well. You know,
without disrespecting Hawthorn and norms, it gets it that night.
So there's always little things you gathering along the way.
Jared Wade in a high performance team done really really
good job. We're in good shape, like our numbers say
(12:02):
that around GPS and the health of the list is
pretty good.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
So when we look at those numbers. What struck me
about all this? As you were losing games and you've
got a bit of a whack there from the Hawks.
But when you go back and look at your defensive numbers,
your defensive stuff about really well.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Throughout all that.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Yeah, No, we've won one of our last one and
role No, we look at the things that matter for us,
and there's some stuff in that that we looked at
wasn't good enough. But a lot of close losses to
good teams and a couple of those away, and you know,
the freo form stacks up for now. We played really
well against them, but we're the best defense in the
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comp over twenty four rounds. Those numbers don't lie.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
So back to Adelaide, we expect to Matthew Nix about
this last night, given all the transpired, do you expect
there to be any residual Do you expect to be
walking into an even more hostile as possible.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
I'm not sure. I don't know. I think you balance
it all up, and you realize that there was a
record crowd that ever been at Oval, a great, great
combative game, and we thought we've probably learned good lessons
from that night, and I'm sure they have too, so
it'll be interesting how that plays out. Lets us learned
against each other, Yeah, I don't know. I'd like to
(13:14):
think not let the game be the game and embrace
the contest.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
For what is and what do you have against that
is it's an environment in which you have thrived, and
it's a team against whom you have thrived, and the
last result I would say is inconclusive and demanded up
and rematched.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Yeah, yeah, that's like you'd like to think that. You know,
the numbers of the night were unrealistic, seventy one inside
fifties or whatever. That I wouldn't be banking on that game,
and we've always had a close game, so I wouldn't
have thought there's a huge advantage either way. But we're
going over. We understand we're going over to the team
that finished top. You know, they've won twelve games in
a row or something like that. So this we know
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what we're in for. We're gonna have to play it
absolutely best to be in an opposition that you clearly
on top of the ladder for a reason.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
That's the feedback we spoke to an easy last night,
and when we walked away from that game, as COMMENTATORD,
you go, wow, I haven't seen one like that before,
with the look of it and the numbers.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
What's it going to look like again?
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Yeah, well, the condition sort of made it difficult to
move the ball. Both teams were prepared to have spares.
You know, I'm not sure that they want to do
that again. If we want to do that again, we'll
wait and see. But there's a there's a real good
balance of the contest. You look at across every line,
there's like, oh, that's a good matchup. Well, that's a
that's going to be a challenging part of the game.
There's just something about these two teams that really really
(14:33):
challenged each other at their best.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
The medical work has been done, it doesn't seem great
for Jeremy Howe.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
What have you been told?
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Well, he defies logic in his own mind. At least
he said to me today. He's a good healer, as
he did once before, and he's going to run to morrow.
And he's apparently, without knowing all the details of this
type of injury, that that's probably the best result for
him to have a bit more of a serious tear
to the adductor and then a I was him to
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now just heal the scard too. So we've got hope.
Three to four is probably optimistic, but we'll wait.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Se So three to four doesn't have him playing, does it.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Well, we've still got a week before we play again,
so we'll wait and see again. His words out of
his mouth today is keep the faith and we'll to
see how it transpires.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
So you lose one, but you've gained de Gooie who.
There was just this familiar look about it on Friday night.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Yeah, yeah, and I was pleasing, and I said, post came,
I didn't probably expect that. I probably didn't think that
was going to be the case based on what I've
been seeing and the time out of the game that
he had. But his powers back when he first was
going to play his VFL game, he trained like this, right,
I thought, And everyone's just going, wow, we have a
bit of the match play and he's burst out of
stop with his breaking tackles and kicking long goals like that.
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That's that's trademark. Jordian going to be a new dad.
He's really happy in himself and smile and which is
what we want from all our places.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
You brought him when he came back.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
I don't know if he started him in the center square,
but he certainly was in there early so as no protecting,
this is him and yeah, what he can do.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Probably the early early I think first came back after VFL.
We were a bit temperamental about putting him in for
the long journey of it, and we're sort of managing
time around that. He's become more of a mid in
the last couple of weeks, you know, it's just basically
mid and less forward. Early days is a bit more
forward mid, so that might be his pass from here
on him.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
How did it brought him my check go with the
wrist scan.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Well, I don't like going to medical meetings early in
the weeks because they tend to be not so not
so glowing. But my reports are that most of our
pliers will be fit and available to play. So we
just have to wait how that works out. And I'd
be surprised if most teams are now Bruce and Batten
in some capacity. Some play with a little bit more
this time of the year.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
This far into the Scott Pendlebury journey. Did he did
he learn a new trick in the last quarter on
Friday night?
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Yeah? Yeah, I don't want to give too much away
over around tactically tactically, but I just amazed that at
his influence on our team still, you know, like he's
than twenty three games I think on record, and I
was just chatting to someone today maybe the other coaches
just arguably he's played better this year than last and
it's just the way he can find the space to
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like he's taking kickings and taking on Yeah is this
the one he yah? Yeah, he's taken on picking.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Just do this himself, like yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, just himself.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
Yeah, just take him on. Look, I don't know if
I would have done it my first year. Yeah, because
he pick it like it and then all of a
sudden changes the game and now he's remarkable and and
just continues to just turn up for us. And again
we go in the finals time. I think everyone would
be craving to have a Scott Pedel win the team
right now, wouldn't they? Oh god?
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah, Well it's how about you as a coach going
back in this time round? So you've Premiership, sat back
and watched it all last last year and now here
you are again.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Are you better prepared? Do you think? The coach? Yeah, yeah,
it's a good question.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
I'm not sure. I'll have a chat in a month's time,
but I feel there's nothing that's going to come across
our path that we haven't sort of experienced before. Then
that's that's exciting itself. I think within time and in
the fifties, now you realize how close you are. Now
that's why I just know it's a whole new ballgame,
and you don't have to have style points. You know
you're not coming for a percentage now and it's going
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to beat the opposition in front of you. And then
if you don't do that, lucky enough, callifying forth another
chance to do it, and then you're in a pre
limit and anything matters and anything goes. I mean, so
I'd like to think of a better place experience wise.
But yes, yes, here we go doing a good company.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
That group there.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
You spoke to us straight away on Friday night and
you're big on the reset. You seld that message hard.
This is a brand new season, so you don't have
to give much away. But the MCG tomorrow. How significant
is that in all of that?
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Yeah, you know, I'd like to think it's Oh, significant
is an interesting word, but it will redirect our focus.
And I like, I'm a bit of connector, so I'd
like to connect people and will do an exercise. We
will do that and then we'll have dinner together and
then and here's about ninety people coming along with staff
and players, and that's.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Just an internal club thing.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
Yeah, I'm it's not going to be anything that he's
going to go, oh, that's going to change my world.
But did you like to think it redirects our focus
for the next period and then put out all ends
into that He've.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Got three in all Australian reckoning, both Dycus Boys and
Jamie Elliott two for a period of time just he
was absolutely exceptional.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Well what would it mean to him if he even got.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
The Nord this year? In particular Jamie Bean in the
leadership group. He's grown so much. He's gone to another
level with his footy, but I don't think he's gone
another level as a person. Inside our environments, which are
we're really wrapped with his growth and it mean a
lot to him and us, you know, we want to
be the environment he creates that and we love their
players being celebrated. There's three Darcy Camra would be pretty stiff.
(19:49):
I would have thought taking that many marks. Yeah, we'd
like to think that we will celebrate these guys at
some stage, maybe tomorrow it could be a good time, opportunity,
time to do.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
That and without thre for you too far from the
here and now. Jack Sylvani has told Carlton he's a
free agent. He's going to use that. You're clearly in
the mix there are you. Hopefully he's going to choose you.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
Well, yeah, we had a date and he has it
called and so and he's got a call from dating
someone else. I hear so had a second No, I
don't do second dates, and in this place, I leave
it up to others. But apparently the Bulldogs have meeting
with him too, so I don't know where it lands.
But yeah, we like to we like to continue to grow.
As I've always said, the makeap Club a destination club
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for guys like him to come. So we'll wait and
see on that one.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
There's another really significant figure in this town who you've
had a link within, Craig Bellamy, who's about to coach
his six hundredth game with Melbourne Storm.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
I just wondered, what's unbelievable. I was asked to do
a little short message to him last week. Six hundred
games and just the continuous nature of being the top four,
top two, and yeah, it is. It is remarkable and
that club, that culture. I've spent a small part of
my life there, was lucky enough to see some of
the things in the sanctum and trying to get those
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things to Collingwood, around family and other parts. But I
wish the storm all the best and grace. He is
one of the best of all time.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
What is one quality?
Speaker 3 (21:12):
For those that haven't been up close with him, we
all sit back in all, what is one quality?
Speaker 5 (21:17):
That consistency? I think he's just completely consistent and he
drives those standards. Yeah, I think I think he's changed
a fair bit, Like I see little bits of him
change like that. The players are more engaged with him now.
All he's a lot different than what he was maybe
ten years ago. I think he would be the first
to admit that. But incredible driver of culture and what
(21:38):
a great role.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
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Speaker 5 (21:54):
Yeah, yeah, ship by ticket. I'm going to sell three
for four. Second prize, second prize of meat trode.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
That's a fat cry from the from the prizes. We
used to caravans and europe.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Crusader caravans and sang on cars. Now we've Emirates. We're
doing quite well. Yeah, get on board, macpoimy. It's you
know it might go around the ground before at over
and try to sell a few tickets.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Can take the blanket all right as we let you go.
Can you win it?
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Yeah? I think we can. And like the other eight
teams would be saying the same thing, it's it's small
margins around now and yeah we'll give it our best shot.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Good, great, great to see you. Thanks a lot, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Craig McCrae with us on our AFL three sixty is
the Magpies up a qualifying final against the Adelaide Pros.
Chris Fagan is the ranting premiership coach. The Lions walk
the hard roads, finished thirds house fas got them set
up for the big months
Only premiership coaches need apply.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Tonight's the men who know what it takes to lift
the cup set up the September quest.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
The last teams for the regular season have been lodged
as the Sun steal themselves for the must.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
Win class with Essendon and Harley Reid extends his time
with the Eagles, the number one pick, resisting the long
term law, adding two years to his contracts.
Speaker 5 (00:26):
We talked about his step into it, embrace all of
it in the room and eat.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
It's unedifying for a senior coach to do that. They're
on the side of Courtia with the brain tape. The
man on they played the best footy I've.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Ever seen at the start of the season, and President
left the cup over said, of course they do.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
It is the stuff that legends are made of.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
What is holding the ball? I don't think I could
answer it clearly right now that I could do something wrong,
you know, And I need to get and the boards
actually the fans lover and with no fans, no through
sixty year old.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
The winter bit back hard today in Melbourne, gas and
in the western suburbs. The most miserable sight you could
imagine in a footing season. The Western Bulldogs, who are
condemned to a purgatory no team should ever have to live,
were sent out onto the training track just in case
Gold Coast take the gas tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
How would you have gone with this?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I would have made them train for three hours mouthguards
in contest after contest after contest. The alternative would be
sitting in a pub with open fire, going just drowning
your sorrows. Know That's what probably they were steering at
if they we didn't have this convoluted extra game. But no,
this is These are rare and unique scenes, aren't They
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Never to be repeated, never ever to be repeated, Because
that doesn't matter how strong will you are. Your mind
just goes to tomorrow night. You think nah, nah, I
think no.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
If you're a Bulldogs players put binge on watch the
new season fact, well, don't subject yourself to it and
have a WhatsApp group. If it's necessary to turn on
with ten minutes to go, then flick across.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I don't know many Gold Coasts and supporters. We have
one here, God loving, so for this sake, I hope
they win, but imagine if they didn't.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
It would be one of the greatest.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Stories, not great one of all the backtracking that they
have to go from.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
All of the punts and then they'll beat the Giant,
but then all of a sudden they're in a semi final.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I'll get to the pre lim and then we'll go
Le's go back to that week when they lost that game.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
We digress. Here's all we have coming tonight.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Three premiership coaches all lined up. Chris got, Craig McCrae
and Chris Fagan to join us and then they come
into their own at this time of year with the
news with the contract news midweek tackle Lawrence leading MAKA
and Ralphie.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Tomorrow nights we'll be.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Your pregame show ahead of Gold Coast and Essendon and
first Crack will come in the immediate after. Mark damien
Hart will join us in the build up to a
historic night on offer for the Suns and then Thursday
night the AFL Awards, the All Australian team will be unveiled,
the Coaches Association Player of the Year, the Lee Matthews
Trophy for the MVP. We've got to look at the
forty four man squad from which the All Australian will
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be selected. Four teams dominate with five each Adelaide Brisbane,
Gold Coaster and the Western Bulldogs. There were none for Carlton, Essendon,
West Coast and North Melbourne. The most contentious of those
would be Tristan Sherry I think, who for a long
time was thought to be the ruckman. Twenty eight players
are striving for their first Blazer two. Hugh McCluggage has
been in four squads. Tom libertore has been in two.
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Will they see the main squad this time? Max Gorn
a chance for a record equaling eighth all Australian and
only eight of last year's team returned to the squad.
So you do your picks for tomorrow night.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
I will.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Now there's a couple that jump out at me, which
I think a great footy story, So we'll get stuck
into that tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
All right, let's have a look at the teams that
have landed for tomorrow night's game. There are three changes
for Gold Coast. They are all by choice. Certainly two
of them make them significantly stronger. Rioli and Humphrey are
back from injury. Jake Rodgers, who haven't seen since Round nine,
has been reignited. Sexton Adams and Lockey goldbin. Max Lawton
points out he will be the first player in league
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history to both debut and be dropped in the same mountains,
and Essendon get back there too. Lates outs from last
week Durham and la Verde makes them stronger. Gresham hasn't
made the trip for personal reasons and Johnson's been omitted.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah, so both teams are stronger for the inns, which
will hopefully from an Adelaie Nessing point of view, make
a little bit more competitive.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
But no mucking around.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
From Dimmer's perspective, I think he's really important Bailey Humphy
to come back into this side, as is Dan Reli.
We spoke to him a couple of weeks ago and
he said he Dan was sort of eyeing off of
comeback with the first week of the finals. He may
have been a little bit optimistic. So he's been I
wouldn't say rush back in. He's ready to go. But
this is you can't miss step here from a gold
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cot Son's point of view, and they've picked a stronger
side than they did last week.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
That's all we can do, right, We'll dig deep into
that tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
The contract news as it's landed today So Harley Reid
has extended his by two years at West Coast, so
he had next year to run and he's added two.
This is the perfect contract, in my opinion, to do.
It's the one that in the modern landscape gets looked
over too much. It allows Harley to grow into the
player that he's going to be three years, four and five.
There's heavy incentives if he becomes the Eagles' best player.
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He'll earned two million dollars during those years, and it
allows West Coast to grow with him and show him
that they are worthy of his long term commitment. For
manager and for player and for club. I personally salute this.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Now it ticks all around here.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
This is the Chris Judd template being deployed with Harley,
and it's a great template. Juddy gave great service to
the club, captain them to a premiership and then came
back to Victoria. And I'm not suggesting that Harley will
come back, but it gives him the option to come back.
So Juddy came back after six years. This sees Harley
through five and then, as you say, they'll make it
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a seat. With all of the information in front of him,
it's good. Next year he plays hopefully with Elliot O
and the midfield alongsideing with Tom mccarthur, who's had a
fantastic season. You throw Harley in their waterman at the
other end of the ground. Baker will be better for
having a year. Chessa looks as better as the year
wore on, so he will enjoy his football much.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
More next year, one would hope.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
And it's interesting, great sign for a team that's been
kicked in the head affair bit over the last couple
of years.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, it's important all round. So let's hope that that
goes well on a Carlton front. As the car park
today was a bit of a spectacle as the exit
interviews began and Jack Sylvanne confirmed to the club that
he's going to exercise his rights for free agency.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
This is what he was saying on the way.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Have your head around potentially leaving the club.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Yeah, potentially it's something not working on the next couple
of days and well.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Coming out and n what it means to you to
walk away from the club with your boyhood club obviously,
I have a I love the club very much, so
it would be a big decision to make.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Thanks it is.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
A big decision because it's an name that has bound
the generations at Carlton. But this has felt inevitable for
the back half of the season and it feels like
a choice between Collingwood and the Bulldogs. There's no need
to tip his hand yet because the free agency period
doesn't start till after the Grand Final.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Undignified.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
I understand the boys they're doing the door stopping, have
to do their job, but I wish there's a better
way to do that and jam and microphones in his face.
Charlie Kerna, I understand, I get it, but I'd like
to see move better than that.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Where he ends up, well, it'll.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Be interesting one of two, you, suspect Raably, we might
talk to one of their coaches about that.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
They're both good landing zones for him. They both have needs,
both needed Phil's, doesn't he.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, he's not the big key that probably know the
Western Bulldogs need, but he's a great support act.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
All right.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Let's get get into our agenda, and it does belong
to the past three Premiership coaches, those who have done it,
those who know how to do it. We start with
Craig McCrae, who's Magpies have lived both journeys in the
same season, runaway leaders.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
And holding on the skin of their teeth. Don't you
want to be them? The top of the parts talking when.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
The teeth of beat hed twenty twenty five O one
pint When to the pies, you just can't beat him
in close finishes, you just can't beat them.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
History says it's hard to lead Bay out of wire,
so you're not quite gonna go wide?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Or which is it? The other year?
Speaker 5 (08:33):
I keep hearing that we're paying too well. Apparently I can't.
I can't. I can't have that. I said, what do
you want us to play worse? No, No, I just
don't get it. We're just we're in the positions getting better.
That's what we try to do. We want to we
want to improve ourselves. We got to please source today,
we got to heap improvements. Left to this.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
Colirod has done nothing less than sell them States Premiership.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Missing sixteen wins and a good percentage. I'm sure anyone
in this room would be pretty happy with that. At
start of the year. It's a crazy year when sixteen
sort of you're not sure we're going to land. Yeah,
we we celebrated that to stuff with our whole group
and how we put ourselves.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
We got a posset in were a life.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Top four finished and a trip back to Adelaide having
just done that a couple of weeks ago. The Collingwood
coach Craig McCrae is with us in the studio. Craig
always great to have sixty welcome.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Go to see Jared.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I was driving home on Friday night, listening on the radio,
got home for the last quarter, thinking did you get
to it?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Did you get to the last quarter of Port Adelaide?
Speaker 5 (09:43):
I stayed around in the rooms funny enough, and I
left my press conference and went straight into the little
coaches room there and we had a gathering of people there.
And I've never ride it. I've never cheered for Port,
but I didn't. I did that night. Yeah, I was.
I was riding every bump yep.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Does that feel having under premiership and then missed the
final series altogether? And mean, it's the feeling that you
have now, not a greater appreciation because everyone knows how
important it is, but nice to be back in.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Yeah. Absolutely, And you set yourself a long time ago.
You know, we've had a long time to think about
this campaign and you have a lot of hard work
going into it, and I was really excited after the
game one that get a selves moving and it gets
Melbour played extremely well and to get over the line
with some energy of wanting to win. And then yeah,
(10:30):
just to know that we're in the finals potentially top
four was it was really exciting.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah, two years ago you used this week especially well.
It became the starting off point for the club's documentary.
So does that have you been thinking about this week?
How to frame it, what you're about to do, given
what you've been through before.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
I haven't slept dured. There's been many little things trying
to get this right up. We've got to gathering at
the MCG tomorrow afternoon, and yeah, we said a new
new thing because it's a new season, and we realized that,
like back from qualifying days, you've got to get yourself
in a position to be here. We are here now
and we'd like to think we've got as good a
chance as anyone and we want to reset our focus.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Is this a team that can gather in that sort
of way.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Yeah, Well, you know, we've got accused of having the
most experienced and you know, the oldest list in the competition.
This is when you want it, and so we like
to think there's a lot of reasons why we can
go deep.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
It's an interesting that in itself is interesting, isn't it,
because the narrative was really strong pre game pre season.
Rather you lose that first guard and the ridiculous knee jeck,
we get all that, but there's is attrition, you know
it as well as anyone. And then the back half's
been you know, it's been hard work. You've got there
is Do you put that down to that in.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Any way shape or well, there's no doubt. You know,
we had a period where we played three games twelve
days and we looked at ourselves in the mirrors and
I don't think we managed that that well. You know,
without disrespecting Hawthorn and norms, it gets it that night.
So there's always little things you gathering along the way.
Jared Wade in a high performance team done really really
good job. We're in good shape, like our numbers say
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that around GPS and the health of the list is
pretty good.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
So when we look at those numbers. What struck me
about all this? As you were losing games and you've
got a bit of a whack there from the Hawks.
But when you go back and look at your defensive numbers,
your defensive stuff about really well.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Throughout all that.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Yeah, No, we've won one of our last one and
role No, we look at the things that matter for us,
and there's some stuff in that that we looked at
wasn't good enough. But a lot of close losses to
good teams and a couple of those away, and you know,
the freo form stacks up for now. We played really
well against them, but we're the best defense in the
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comp over twenty four rounds. Those numbers don't lie.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
So back to Adelaide, we expect to Matthew Nix about
this last night, given all the transpired, do you expect
there to be any residual Do you expect to be
walking into an even more hostile as possible.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
I'm not sure. I don't know. I think you balance
it all up, and you realize that there was a
record crowd that ever been at Oval, a great, great
combative game, and we thought we've probably learned good lessons
from that night, and I'm sure they have too, so
it'll be interesting how that plays out. Lets us learned
against each other, Yeah, I don't know. I'd like to
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think not let the game be the game and embrace
the contest.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
For what is and what do you have against that
is it's an environment in which you have thrived, and
it's a team against whom you have thrived, and the
last result I would say is inconclusive and demanded up
and rematched.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Yeah, yeah, that's like you'd like to think that. You know,
the numbers of the night were unrealistic, seventy one inside
fifties or whatever. That I wouldn't be banking on that game,
and we've always had a close game, so I wouldn't
have thought there's a huge advantage either way. But we're
going over. We understand we're going over to the team
that finished top. You know, they've won twelve games in
a row or something like that. So this we know
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what we're in for. We're gonna have to play it
absolutely best to be in an opposition that you clearly
on top of the ladder for a reason.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
That's the feedback we spoke to an easy last night,
and when we walked away from that game, as COMMENTATORD,
you go, wow, I haven't seen one like that before,
with the look of it and the numbers.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
What's it going to look like again?
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Yeah, well, the condition sort of made it difficult to
move the ball. Both teams were prepared to have spares.
You know, I'm not sure that they want to do
that again. If we want to do that again, we'll
wait and see. But there's a there's a real good
balance of the contest. You look at across every line,
there's like, oh, that's a good matchup. Well, that's a
that's going to be a challenging part of the game.
There's just something about these two teams that really really
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challenged each other at their best.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
The medical work has been done, it doesn't seem great
for Jeremy Howe.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
What have you been told?
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Well, he defies logic in his own mind. At least
he said to me today. He's a good healer, as
he did once before, and he's going to run to morrow.
And he's apparently, without knowing all the details of this
type of injury, that that's probably the best result for
him to have a bit more of a serious tear
to the adductor and then a I was him to
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now just heal the scard too. So we've got hope.
Three to four is probably optimistic, but we'll wait.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Se So three to four doesn't have him playing, does it.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Well, we've still got a week before we play again,
so we'll wait and see again. His words out of
his mouth today is keep the faith and we'll to
see how it transpires.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
So you lose one, but you've gained de Gooie who.
There was just this familiar look about it on Friday night.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Yeah, yeah, and I was pleasing, and I said, post came,
I didn't probably expect that. I probably didn't think that
was going to be the case based on what I've
been seeing and the time out of the game that
he had. But his powers back when he first was
going to play his VFL game, he trained like this, right,
I thought, And everyone's just going, wow, we have a
bit of the match play and he's burst out of
stop with his breaking tackles and kicking long goals like that.
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That's that's trademark. Jordian going to be a new dad.
He's really happy in himself and smile and which is
what we want from all our places.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
You brought him when he came back.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
I don't know if he started him in the center square,
but he certainly was in there early so as no protecting,
this is him and yeah, what he can do.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Probably the early early I think first came back after VFL.
We were a bit temperamental about putting him in for
the long journey of it, and we're sort of managing
time around that. He's become more of a mid in
the last couple of weeks, you know, it's just basically
mid and less forward. Early days is a bit more
forward mid, so that might be his pass from here
on him.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
How did it brought him my check go with the
wrist scan.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Well, I don't like going to medical meetings early in
the weeks because they tend to be not so not
so glowing. But my reports are that most of our
pliers will be fit and available to play. So we
just have to wait how that works out. And I'd
be surprised if most teams are now Bruce and Batten
in some capacity. Some play with a little bit more
this time of the year.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
This far into the Scott Pendlebury journey. Did he did
he learn a new trick in the last quarter on
Friday night?
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Yeah? Yeah, I don't want to give too much away
over around tactically tactically, but I just amazed that at
his influence on our team still, you know, like he's
than twenty three games I think on record, and I
was just chatting to someone today maybe the other coaches
just arguably he's played better this year than last and
it's just the way he can find the space to
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like he's taking kickings and taking on Yeah is this
the one he yah? Yeah, he's taken on picking.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Just do this himself, like yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, just himself.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
Yeah, just take him on. Look, I don't know if
I would have done it my first year. Yeah, because
he pick it like it and then all of a
sudden changes the game and now he's remarkable and and
just continues to just turn up for us. And again
we go in the finals time. I think everyone would
be craving to have a Scott Pedel win the team
right now, wouldn't they? Oh god?
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah, Well it's how about you as a coach going
back in this time round? So you've Premiership, sat back
and watched it all last last year and now here
you are again.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Are you better prepared? Do you think? The coach? Yeah, yeah,
it's a good question.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
I'm not sure. I'll have a chat in a month's time,
but I feel there's nothing that's going to come across
our path that we haven't sort of experienced before. Then
that's that's exciting itself. I think within time and in
the fifties, now you realize how close you are. Now
that's why I just know it's a whole new ballgame,
and you don't have to have style points. You know
you're not coming for a percentage now and it's going
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to beat the opposition in front of you. And then
if you don't do that, lucky enough, callifying forth another
chance to do it, and then you're in a pre
limit and anything matters and anything goes. I mean, so
I'd like to think of a better place experience wise.
But yes, yes, here we go doing a good company.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
That group there.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
You spoke to us straight away on Friday night and
you're big on the reset. You seld that message hard.
This is a brand new season, so you don't have
to give much away. But the MCG tomorrow. How significant
is that in all of that?
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Yeah, you know, I'd like to think it's Oh, significant
is an interesting word, but it will redirect our focus.
And I like, I'm a bit of connector, so I'd
like to connect people and will do an exercise. We
will do that and then we'll have dinner together and
then and here's about ninety people coming along with staff
and players, and that's.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Just an internal club thing.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
Yeah, I'm it's not going to be anything that he's
going to go, oh, that's going to change my world.
But did you like to think it redirects our focus
for the next period and then put out all ends
into that He've.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Got three in all Australian reckoning, both Dycus Boys and
Jamie Elliott two for a period of time just he
was absolutely exceptional.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Well what would it mean to him if he even got.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
The Nord this year? In particular Jamie Bean in the
leadership group. He's grown so much. He's gone to another
level with his footy, but I don't think he's gone
another level as a person. Inside our environments, which are
we're really wrapped with his growth and it mean a
lot to him and us, you know, we want to
be the environment he creates that and we love their
players being celebrated. There's three Darcy Camra would be pretty stiff.
(19:49):
I would have thought taking that many marks. Yeah, we'd
like to think that we will celebrate these guys at
some stage, maybe tomorrow it could be a good time, opportunity,
time to do.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
That and without thre for you too far from the
here and now. Jack Sylvani has told Carlton he's a
free agent. He's going to use that. You're clearly in
the mix there are you. Hopefully he's going to choose you.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
Well, yeah, we had a date and he has it
called and so and he's got a call from dating
someone else. I hear so had a second No, I
don't do second dates, and in this place, I leave
it up to others. But apparently the Bulldogs have meeting
with him too, so I don't know where it lands.
But yeah, we like to we like to continue to grow.
As I've always said, the makeap Club a destination club
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for guys like him to come. So we'll wait and
see on that one.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
There's another really significant figure in this town who you've
had a link within, Craig Bellamy, who's about to coach
his six hundredth game with Melbourne Storm.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
I just wondered, what's unbelievable. I was asked to do
a little short message to him last week. Six hundred
games and just the continuous nature of being the top four,
top two, and yeah, it is. It is remarkable and
that club, that culture. I've spent a small part of
my life there, was lucky enough to see some of
the things in the sanctum and trying to get those
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things to Collingwood, around family and other parts. But I
wish the storm all the best and grace. He is
one of the best of all time.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
What is one quality?
Speaker 3 (21:12):
For those that haven't been up close with him, we
all sit back in all, what is one quality?
Speaker 5 (21:17):
That consistency? I think he's just completely consistent and he
drives those standards. Yeah, I think I think he's changed
a fair bit, Like I see little bits of him
change like that. The players are more engaged with him now.
All he's a lot different than what he was maybe
ten years ago. I think he would be the first
to admit that. But incredible driver of culture and what
(21:38):
a great role.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
And for your magplay Army, you've got a Magplat Mega
draw for September as the stakes are really high and
here there's a chance to win cars, caravans, European emirates,
flights and the like. So that's your QRCO to join
in the fund there.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Yeah, yeah, ship by ticket. I'm going to sell three
for four. Second prize, second prize of meat trode.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
That's a fat cry from the from the prizes. We
used to caravans and europe.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Crusader caravans and sang on cars. Now we've Emirates. We're
doing quite well. Yeah, get on board, macpoimy. It's you
know it might go around the ground before at over
and try to sell a few tickets.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Can take the blanket all right as we let you go.
Can you win it?
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Yeah? I think we can. And like the other eight
teams would be saying the same thing, it's it's small
margins around now and yeah we'll give it our best shot.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Good, great, great to see you. Thanks a lot, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Craig McCrae with us on our AFL three sixty is
the Magpies up a qualifying final against the Adelaide Pros.
Chris Fagan is the ranting premiership coach. The Lions walk
the hard roads, finished thirds house fas got them set
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