July 29, 2025 • 46 mins
David Zita, Ben Waterworth and Will Faulkner review Round 20 and preview Round 21 of the 2025 AFL season on the Fox Footy Podcast, plus they dissect the biggest storylines heading into this year's trade period. And, as always, Fair or Farce, the Mailbag and much more.
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Arguably the flattest round in modern AFL history was saved
by beautifully Bonker's final quarter on Sunday as Nasiah Wanganame
Millerer inspired a Marvel miracle. But as the dust settles
on the superstars heroics, it's hard to ignore the elephant
in the room. A top five player in the AFL
remains unsigned for next year with four games left in
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the Home in the Way season. So how has it
got to this and where to from here will dissect
the same situation. We'll also dive into some of the
biggest trade storylines as we hit the run home Runway,
And of course we have all of your favorite regular
segments on the Fox Footy Podcast. Ben Waterworth with you,
as is the Men Reeling from a Tuesday Retirement Bombshell,
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Will Forkner, Hello.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Fork, Hello Ben? How are you great? Probably better than
you after Rory Atkins's retirement.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Yes, well, there could be many elephants in the room today.
It could have been Roy Reatkins's retirement, as you just said.
It also could be the man on my right and
your left. Yes, seeing David is either.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Back in his natural habitat of the Fox Footy podcast
Bunker and also the Fantastic four ambassador.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
Hello, Ben and William.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
It's magnificently nice of you to lower yourself back to.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Our I'm sorry, Nick lower Yes, Nick sorry, this is
what we do on We just say names and we
just anyways is normally. It's good to be here. Max
is in Ballyhi is still posting he did the run home.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I didn't hit the run home. And I think we've
got an all I reckon. I've got an all staff
meeting this week and I've got a dollar ten that
Max will still tune in via.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
But you can't do that.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I reckon. We take bets on what like the background
is going to be? Is it Paul Side?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Do you reckon? I reckon? He tries to massive and
he's not on leave even though he is. It does
hold on, where's the book?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
We don't have the book.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Where is it?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I don't know. Your guess is good, but yeah, I
think it could be full side. It's not on his desk,
not that I can see there. David will sits on
that desk at the moment.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
I was gonna go out. No, okay, well that's interesting, but.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
We've got some very good contents still coming your way,
which you're going to enhance, no doubt, your common hands
with your commentary on the three podcast. For some it'll
be a case of where were you when Nasai won
the Marvel miracle for Sin Kilda? Is he now a
top five player in the competition?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
For I would say yes, without having done the list itself,
certainly the most valuable with Saint Kilda. Put adelaidea adelaide
you're about to find out, but yes, I mean it's crazy.
He just keeps doing it week on week on week,
and halfway through an article at the moment as to
I don't think we've ever seen someone's worth go up
so rapidly in the space of such a short time,
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let alone be out of contract during that period.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
So what what does that mean for his footy future?
For he remains unsigned for twenty twenty six and beyond
at probably the player on everyone's lips at the moment.
It's hard to it's hard to know where it's from
reading of reports, it's hard to know where he's going
to go.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
It's incredible. I mean, you know more than most that
I've been very big on the fact that Port Adelaide
would be the place that he plays in twenty twenty six.
I think we've gotten to a point where it is
genuinely impossible to work out where he's playing next year,
I said to fellow staff member Jack Jovinoski earlier today Drama.
Yes that I think something like that happening on the weekend.
Rikiu is a go after the star and plays such
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a big part in Saint Kilda winning. It's an intangible
thing that Saint Kilda now has witness sigh. I think
that can't be underestimated how big a moment that can
be in his future going to folklore dred percent and
we saw the celebrations at Hotel Brighton on Sunday night. Yes,
which I dare say with no doubt amplified by his
antics on ross lines shoulders. But I think it's gotten
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to the point now have no idea where he's going.
I still think it's a two horse race, but it's
no longer Pourt, It's no longer Saint Kilda. I think
the fact that Saint Kilda still keep feeling the need
to increase the money that's in front of him tells
me they're still not very confident. But the lines as
blur as they ever have been this season.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Robert Marshall claimed in the press conference yesterday David that
Ross actually tried to lift him up first, or thought
about lifting him up.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
I'm staggered that Ross could lift Nas up. I've seen
that man walk in and out at press conferences, and
Labored is putting it mildly. I think his hips might
not be all like that good as you know, it
made some hip issues, but I'm stagging he got Nas
on his shoulders and that's the lengths he is going
to to.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
He's the first time Maasket up on some shoulders on absolutely.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Probably a part of his game that we really hadn't
seen the contested marks.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
So I think that's how he's been practicing. It's just
getting up atross Lane shoulders at various points.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Well maybe, but honestly, I'm like that is as good
a performance and Ross as any of his coaching efforts. Seriously, like,
I can't believe you got him up there. So well
played to him, and if that's what gets him over
the line, then all credit to you. Ross.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
You've been to a lot of Ross presses. I've had
the privilege of going to a lot of Ross presses
this year, and I reckon THEI size people asked every one,
every two he's asked.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
About, doesn't take it, doesn't take overly kindly to it.
None you ask about that. I think Ross is interesting,
he seems to think. And maybe maybe I'm out of
the loop here or not, and maybe I'm in a
media journalist bubble, but he seems to think that the
questions that the weekly press conferences have to be about
the game, like and when they're not about the game
that week, he starts to get a bit all right,
come on, what are we doing. I don't know if
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that's the rule I would.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I would say, from a journalism perspective, midweek very much
fair game to ask whatever you want in terms of
general footy issues. But after after the.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Game, after the game the game, Yes, different difference. Yes, sorry,
I'm referring to his weekly press conferences. Yes, but even
those press conferences he gets a bit, He gets a bit,
He gets a bit upset when you have you with
you at all. No, just it's not just me. I
think it's supposed to be with anyone who's asked it, like, oh,
you know, it's a I think I asked him once
in one press conference, what if you made at the
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team's direction this season, where do you think you are?
And he said it was a strange question for a
weekly press conference about an upcoming game, And.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I thought, well, it's not really, I can't win.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
It's not about an upcoming like it's about everything. Yeah,
in the midweek, but we got to ask pregame about Nazen.
He was, You've got a bit to gotta get upset
with which yet?
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Which?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yeah, Kelly's got every right to ask that question. Also
understand his response.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Yeah, Well, I just I think everyone wants to know
where he's going. But Ross maintains he doesn't really know
which is It's saggering. It seems like no one really knows.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
So if he left Sinkilda considering I think there is
a genuine emotional attachment from fans to him now that
was only amplified from the weekend. How much how much
of a blow is this to sin Kilda in its
journey under Ross? If Nasaiah leaves to a South Australian
based club.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
I think it's huge. If they lose Nassaiah, I think
it's just massive. Consider what he's the fact that they're
all in on the youth and building. He should be
at the centerpiece of what they're building right as a club.
So if he leaves, it's a building block of the club,
that a foundational piece that's gone. Like is everything that
they need at the moment. And to lose him, I
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think would be just an extraordinary blow. He can lose.
You can lose Row Marshall. We can talk about him
later on. We can lose Ro Marshall. You can lose
you know, there's been word about Jack Steele wanting to go.
You can lose. That's fine, but like it's you know
they're going, which is always sad. But if they go,
but to lose Naz, I mean, he's just like everything
they need at the moment. Everything.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
What I love about the wangan A miller A story
is that that's a that's a christach A pick from
a few years ago as well, flew over to South
Australia a week and a bit before the draft and
got him a pick eleven. We always talk about some
Kilda being stuck in no man's land, not quite bottoming
out to get those top picks, but they nailed that
at pick eleven. But now, Folk, you've been big on
the fact that Port Adelaide's would be the club that
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he would go to if you. The thing is, though
Port Adelaide does two part. They don't have a first
round pick in this year's draft, but they can trade
picks not only next year, but the year after that
as well, So how can they get a deal done here?
Speaker 4 (08:13):
They would really be the only way they could facilitate it. Ben,
I mean, Zach Butters is the person at Pudalaide now
who's coming up to out of contract at the end
of the next year, who's been most spoken about leaving Alberton.
I can't see him leaving this year, which means he's
no use to the NASA any Thesiah trade that's proposed.
And we're being really blunt. If por Adelaide lose Butters,
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they will get back some form of compensation that they
would have had to give up this year to get Nasiah.
So if at any point they value in the Siah
more than Zach Butter's, which is a very I think
it's a very lineball call. But they if they lose Butters,
they would get back what they give up from the
sire more or less, give or take. But it's gonna
have to be in draft capital. I can't really see
any of their other star players leaving. Rosie stays, Horn
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Francis is locked in long term, Miles is just recent signed,
he's not going to leave this year. George Yard is
his long term. Like, there isn't anyone there that has
star power in their top bracket that could be used
for a trade other than Butters. And as I said,
that's not gonna be this year, that's gonna be next
year if anything. And also you have to factor in,
is sank Kilda the club that Butters would want to
go to even if he did want to go this.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Because he's always been linked to the Western based Victorian clubs.
He's a Western Jets product, the Dogs and the Cats.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Dogs and the Cats of the two that he's been
linked to early on, so and Hawthorne more loosely. But
I think any star players is always going to be
linked to Hawkne We'll get to the Hawk. Okay, yeah,
but that's the only way they're gonna be able to
facilitate a trade I can see, which makes it quite tough.
But Saint kildeano a position where if they lose the side,
god forbid. If you're a Saints fan, draft capital is
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probably the way they're going to need to go because
they're stuck at the bottom end of that loophole, I think, and.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
They'll be they'll be well compensated if it comes to that,
but they would not want to lose a known superstar commodity.
But in the wake of Someday's results, David, the Saints
put rowand Marshall up. I reckon to the media for
the first time in months.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Here this up in the office. I don't recall when
I last when we last spoke to him.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
He was asked about and naturally he was asking I think,
was Pete Ryan who was there, Who's one of the greats.
He was asked about the prospect of blue free agent
Tom Dacony joining Some Kilda and then was asked by
Fox Sports News representative David Zita he had considered his
own future after being linked to rival clubs. Safe to say,
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David that he did not alleviate any concerns.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
He said, he's I think he said he's employed by
the Saint Kilder Football Club to perform. He's focus on
the last four weeks. He knows it's a cliche, but
he's really keen to perform. In the last he spoke
about his current form, I was very I mean, that
was that's probably why they haven't put him up because
there's obviously some truth to stuff. People will disagree, but
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the stuff about Roal Marshall wouldn't just come out of nowhere,
and him being potentially a bit uneasy about the fact
that Tom Deconning might come across and get an extraordinary
amount of money to take responsibilities off the hand of
role Marshall. So I wasn't very convinced by his answer
that he was staying. And I also wasn't very convinced
by I asked him, do you want to be the
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number one guy or do you like working with someone else?
And he said, well, I don't care as long as
we're winning, which he hasn't. But yeah, you say that publicly.
I just I've heard far stronger shows of I'm staying
publicly and then people leave. So this was not certainly
wasn't convincing.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
So is it now more likely the only two players
who were involved in ultimately the match winning play for
Sekilda won't be at Sekulta next year.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Yeah, entirely. Yeah, that's too beast player.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Because if and this is the thing for a Carlton perspective,
because if Tom Deacony joins sin Kilda and Jack Silvanney
joins Collingwood, and that's gaining serious momentum in the past week,
the Blues would likely get a first round compensation pickback
for Daconing, So that would come That would be almost
a top ten pick at the moment, and then a
second round up may be even an end of first
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round compensation pick for Sylvanne should he join Collingwood. Would
that be a good result, David, for Carlton to get
that draft capital, considering they don't have at the moment
a first round pick.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
I think it would be. Yeah. I mean Tom Deaconing, Like, sure,
he's not worth one point seven, He's not worth what
is being offered to him. Like, I don't think anyone
would say he's worth the amount he's being offered. But
you have to offer them more to get them out,
so you almost just take the first round. It's great
to give you a first round pick and you say, farewell,
you've got Mark Pittnett sitting there like who's.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Great, like statistically the best bat in the competition.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
So there's no issue for them. They're losing a player
they don't really they can afford to lose, so to speak,
like they can't afford to keep and so I don't
think that's a big issue for them. Silvannie is more
of a heart and soul. That's a bit of a
blow when he's finally found his footing. But to see
him go to Collingwood would probably probably sting a bit.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
It's about as unromantic as it gets.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Well maybe, well, Stephen Silvanni and the Blues, this is
probably a great case where you could see Stephen Savanna
without knowing you're gonn almost see him go mate, just
go go to Collingwood, just to stick it up. He's older,
he's old, employout. But whether that happens, I'm not sure,
but I don't think it's that much of a considering.
They're trying to almost recalibrating at the moment that the
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Blues and they've got some new leadership coming in. It
wouldn't be a bad thing to have some good draft hand.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
So if you could only keep one, then because Charlie Curno,
Sam Walsh and Harry McKay are also linked to movies,
if you could only keep one of those three players
of kern, O, Walsh and Mackay, who are you wanting
to keep?
Speaker 5 (13:33):
How old Sam Walsh? Yeah, pick one back in twenty eighteen,
and what's Kerner twenty three?
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Three years older?
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Well, I wouldn't want to lose both of Kur. I'd
say I'd keep Walsh, but only only on the basis
that I'm keeping one of Colonel and Mackay. If I
don't want to lose Colonel and Mackay, I'd lose one
of them. I wouldn't lose both and Walsh if he
can get his body right and get that field just
some run and carry, which they don't really he sort
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of turned more into an inside I'm not surely I
think he needs to be, like, there needs to be
some recalibration with him. I think you can afford to
lose one of Colonel and Mackay, like I don't think
they should. You don't need to be as wedded to
they're both here, they're staying long term, they're not moving.
You don't lose both.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
You were at Michael Voss's press conference, and again you're
very good at putting the hard questions to the coaches.
You asked about the Charlie Kurno reports. Let the Sam
Dockerty questions out the way earlier Michael Voss's MIDWEK press comment.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
But we did have the press conference for Sam like
the day before. We gave him his flowers and hit
a package on him.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
And clearly it was not Charlie Curno himself addressing the question.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Well, Charlie did later on he did, But.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Then from Michael Voss's perspective, that was as emphatic a
backing of a player remaining at a club as you
will see and.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Hear yeah, I find yeah again it was more just
him saying he's staying at Carlton as opposed to he
said he didn't need to speak to Charlie about it, about
the reports that he didn't need to. He said, well,
it's speculation, it's not. I'm like, well, I mean, this
is not that doesn't just come out of thin air
like someone said something. Obviously, Tom's not going to say
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he's not going to do that, like this is Tom
and Cow They're not. They're not, they're not, They're not idiots.
They know what they're talking about.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Tom said the club was aware of trying to do
it and.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
They've had to tell him or in his management that
it's not happening.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
It was a pretty air tight report like it's not.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Gonna yeah, and then Cal's backed it up with two
other clubs that were in them, like it's not it's
not false. Right, So I think Voss he probably tried
the side step it a bit, but maybe he basically
was admitting it, but just saying, look, he's staying here,
he's not leaving. That's that's that's the matter at the
end of it is he's staying or not, and in
his eyes, he's staying. And then Charlie Kerner said I'm
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not leaving. Done again, he wasn't asked, you know. He
says he's happy there and whatnot, and it doesn't seem
like he doesn't like Carlton's. It seems like it's more
of a lifestyle. I want to live in the Gold
Coast and live outside of the bubble, which, as we
all know, particularly around the Round twenty one, Round twenty
Mark can get quiet like it just can get quite exhausting,
can be hard.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
What about Can you see all three of Walsh, McKay
and Kerno Fork all being a cult next year?
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Yeah, definitely. I think the way they finished this season
and maybe for them the retention of Voss is important
to them to play on next year. I don't know.
The Walsh noise seems to be more the end of
next year because he'd becoming into restricted free agency. I
think next year, so I would think in Walsh's best
interest would be if he's going to move, it would
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be the end of twenty twenty six. Kerno, I think,
as Ralphie put pretty well, for a superstar to be
traded like him, it's even harder to get a trade
in return where both parties are happy. Ben King, someone
who has been tout, is coming back down from the
Gold Coast. So if Charlie was to move to the
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Gold Coast, I believe they had the same management, maybe
something that could be worked out. Very hypothetical. And mckaid
he was probably the first of those three to be
put on the radar earlier this year.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
It's been on the radar for Ale almost a couple
of years.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Yeah, yeah, well yeah, it seems like he As far
as I need to probably check back in on this,
it seems as far as I'm aware, the state of
play is that he doesn't want to go. But if
the Blues, it would have to be the Blues sort
of initiating at all for it to be something that
was to be discussed. It would have to be something
led by the Blues, which I can see happening. If
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Graham Wright comes in and decides that we need to
do something here, we need to We've got some capital,
let's try and use it. That's when I could see
that happened.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
And everyone keep trefacing the brutal Collingwood calls made at
the end of the twenty twenty season where they cuts
out to law Stevenson r two percent of alagi as
we can't get.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Doesn't he gets left out?
Speaker 3 (17:52):
It does?
Speaker 5 (17:52):
And there are two he does. There are more than two.
He was the third.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
That's right, good afternoon to two. If he's listening, I'm
sure he is. The giche was unleashed in per recently.
Nick Geeshon, the manager of Harley Reed.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Doesn't do a lot of media.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
But he was his doorstop, door stop.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
That's that's why. That's when you do a media's media.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
He did some, that's right. Nick Gieshon flew back from
from Perth recently. So no, not just for Harley Reed,
but no doubt that his future would have been discussed
in stage. So West Coast back in apes and good
commission put multiple offers in front of Harley Reid. Then
this month, so three months later, the Red Camp has
come back with counteroffers, the big one essentially being an
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eleven year deal worth approximately twenty four million dollars, which
is which is decent coin. Yes, how much do you
read in his into his Instagram posts that he put
up on.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Fork, I feel like have a little bit more to
say that. I mean, if you look at the RB,
if you can have if you can have positives within
an Instagram post, probably one of them. How much weight
does it hold in the grand scheme of things, Probably
not a whole lot. Yeah, shame of season came to
an end. Great that he could put together a good
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caption for West Coast Eagles fans. Oh yes, yeah, that's
about all I would say on it. Really, I don't
think it really means a whole lot. I think really
it's down to West Coast. It's whether or not they
want to take that deal that's been put in front
of them by Nick Deishonz. You've obviously a lot to
say on this.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
No, No, I don't. I just social like it's a
social It's a social media post like.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
It was big biggest hints.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
Yeah, No, just it's a social media post. He's not. No,
it's just a post. We all right, captions and we move.
It's not a big thing.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Tom got a bit of flak for it last week,
but his report is his sound right in terms of
he will not enter twenty twenty six unsigned for twenty
twenty seven.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Yeah, he was grossly misquoted by an account on x
which I think brought a fair dis scrutiny towards his way.
But yeah, as you said, what he was saying was
that he's they're not going to put him through one
last year of being uncontracted to which I mean the
media scrutiny around him already is just unheld. Is that
unhelded unprecedented? Apprecedented, so, and it's already a bit ridiculous.
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So I can totally understand that we expecting home and
away do we think.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
Well, you'd have to.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
I mean, I don't know if you want to let
it get to the trade period.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
Yeah, that's all that main you want to you want
to just if.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
You're staying yes, if you're staying yes, sorry, obviously if
you're going to get traded.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Then you would leave it to the trade period.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Yeah, but I think he's Yeah, you'd think it's sooner
better than later, wouldn't you. Apparently I've still got a month.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Apparently Hawthorne are in love with him. So we you
mentioned the Hawks out, Yes, Hawthorne.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Was in Australia with him.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
If if if he left West Coast, do you think
Hawthorne's it would be in positioned.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
I just think you'd see everyone come from the woodwork
try and get a get a look in Hawthorne. I mean,
what did you call to me say that they're like
a borderline obsessed with him?
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Oh yeah, that was his quote.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Yes, that was knocked back a little bit by Sam Mitchell.
Yeah right, Well, I think he questioned, are we obsessed
with him?
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Well? I think the media as a whole, we're probably
bought a lot obsessed with I don't think there've beenny
shortage of clubs.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
I'm not going to pretend I can pick one for
you point blank. Ben, do you think he stays at
West Coast beyond this year?
Speaker 3 (21:19):
I feel like I think he does.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Feel like he does too.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
I think he does. But what what they've done here
is they've been shrewd with the setup of this contract
where it's, as I mentioned, essentially eleven years, but it's
a two year extens with a trigger for nine years
after that, and it just gives him flexibility.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Contract. Poor Ryan Lester has been going one year contract.
I've probably had triggers for the last six years.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
We're all we're not even on a year. We're just
one rolling yeah, rolling, Brendan Bolton, David Nobles. See what
happened there? Just long any day there we could just
good goodbye?
Speaker 1 (21:54):
It is?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
It a bit like Josh Kelly's deal.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Josh Kelly was there a nine year, it was a
nine or ten, he had the sugar the short term
one and then it was a massive trigger.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
It's a similar ish to that that and Josh Kelly
has stayed the course despite so many offers when he
was really in the peak of his career. So I
give them flexibility, but it's just where the West Coast
are committed to that cash.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
To him going right, I'm triggering it. Yeah, there's nine
years and there's twenty four.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Million overs significant. Should he be the most paid player
in the AFL, David.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
I think marketing wise and just the sort of X
factor he brings. I would say it wouldn't upset me
if he was the big highest paid player in the comp. No,
if he is to but if he's playing at this
level in three years, I'd say he shouldn't be. But
I think natural development he'll be. He'll get better. I
(22:47):
think he'll get a lot better than what he is now.
He'll just sort of start to unlock things.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
So from a West Coast perspective, they're highly likely to
lose Oscar Allen as a free agent for nothing to Brisbane,
and Brisbane could also acquire Samva for nothing. On top
of that, they could also get They should also get
the best pure midfielder in the draft this year, Daniel
Annibal from the Lions academy, who had twenty eight disposed
(23:11):
as a team high in the VFL lines on the weekend.
The guy can seriously play. I think he'd be playing
now David Brisbane's list.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Well on Brisbane's list if he's Brisbane SIDR.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Now I think he would be as part of that midfield.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Very high sort of praise.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
So your second in your Paris, he was.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Second in my Paris last week.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
Well, you say for nothing, but they're getting they we're
getting a pick pick two, well pick for Oscarl.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
But I'm saying Brisbane is getting them.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Excuse me, sorry, excuse me.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
So but West Coast will be getting pick two response back,
and how West Coast use that selection in terms of
do they split it again, which they've received some negative
feedback for doing in the past, or taking a pick
two right there? Sure, but they also the lines might
lose Brandon's starts it's to West Coast as a free
agent there, So from how do you read what's the
(24:04):
best case scenario? Then from a West Coast perspective that
they get picked to you back from for Oscar Allen
get Brandon Stasovich's that's probably not the worst result, Not
at all.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
It's not the worst result. I mean, there aren't going
to be too many other rival players looking to come
back to West Coast. I don't think so. I think
anyone that wants to come to your club is a
good thing. Starts which is a Premiership hero Brisbane, very
very good defender touch, what he stay is healthy. It's
a great acquisition.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
That's the biggest concern.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
You've got Liam Baker, You've got Jack Graham, You've got
a few other senior guys who you've come in in
the last few years. And then from a draft perspective,
is it do you go for quality or quantity?
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Depends on which pick you have. Yeah, I think this
is the year to target quality if you try and
get as high as you can. Because it was doing
the rankings last week I got to about twelve and
then from thirteen onwards it was like you could close
to throwing darts at the dartboard in terms of where
(25:03):
you would rank them.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
And as I said, I don't know who you would
get with a pick, like who else would come into
the club with that pick. So unless there was someone
that was seriously worth it, and you would hope had
a lot of time left in their career, they're not
sort of an aging veteran like what North Melbourne did
with Luke Parker and Jack Darling. I would assume you
would take it to the draft.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
That is an immatate sort of trade focused start. I
did promise David would be punchy. So let's keep moving.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
And now on the Fox Footy Podcast, another strong edition
of Australia's favorite segment, Fair or Fast.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Fair or Fast? Yes, Yes, will losing Zach Merritt will
rip apart the rebuild at Essendon. Fair or Fast will rip.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Apart if he lest left lest right Lester? Yes, Yes,
I mean yeah, certainly would. He's been a heart and
soul of the club since they dot Really do I
think you'll leave? No? No, if he did, yes, it would.
I think it's fair.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
I feel like the Brad Scott Zach Merritt relationship is
too tight, too tight for him to Yeah, I got this.
That's that's it's not unhealthy at all. It's I think
it's very healthy. That Yeah, I can't. I think he's
just all in.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
It's got like bon Bevo vibes, doesn't it, but very
very very intertwined, David.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
The AFL has clearly softened its stance on players dangerously
pushing opponents Fair or fast.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Clearly softened or.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Fine?
Speaker 5 (26:35):
I'd say fair in fair and that I think we
probably it was like the descent, you know, you get
to a certain point, it's just like, oh you can,
and it really hit its peak with the Ryan Mansell
push and then the my check one. I think it
could have gone either way. I think he's probably lucky
to get away with a fine, definitely. So I think
if it was back when that Mansele thing happened, maybe,
(26:57):
if it was at that point where we're all talking
about pushes in the tests, maybe he gets a week.
So I think he is. He'd be pretty happy to
Not that you're happy to pay a hefty fine, but
that's I think he's got off well there.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
But if it's a couple of centimeters either way from
Nick Vostone as well and some serious damage, absolutely he's looking.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Yeah, there's another intent versus outcome.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
Well, I mean, if Nick Floston is concust from that,
what happens, I mean I think, well, yeah, if it's yeah,
yeah it is. So that's that's how it works in
the system. So I think he's very I think he's
fortunate rather than such good practice. It's good fortune rather
than good practice, as they said in their trophy in
all the other week.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
And Sillery question that was the secondary Do you sense
that the mrro matrix is near the top of Greg
Swan's priority list to assess.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
Top I don't know if it's near the top, but
I think it's certainly well. If he's got a list
of what did you say? Forty three things, I think
it would be forty three pages. I think it would
be near the top. How many things that are on
forty three pages?
Speaker 3 (27:58):
It depends on the fonts on Yeah yeah, comic.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Sans Liberty Times, the Roman windings.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
It depends on the Joe Fonti size, Willery, we love caliber.
Toby Green's halftime comment didn't cross the line, but he
was pretty darn close to it.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Fair or fast, that's fair, I think retrospectively knowing why
Toby said what he said, which was in reference to
Papley calling Stringer overweight, yes, I think it was just
tongue in cheek and trying to shed light as to
what Papley had said. It was clearly the first thing
that came to his mind, and there was no filter
because it was about all of a four second interview.
(28:36):
I mean, they're two guys who don't beat around the bush.
I don't think anyone was particularly offended, and probably speaks
to the fact that Papley sent Greens McDonald's later that
night shows you there's some pretty good band to between
the two. So I'm glad there wasn't any intervention perhaps
kicking or to quote Damon hard but you're kicking the
nuts after kicking Dane Rampy at the very start.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Of that game a segway stand by David.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Yes, then if Toby Green did the same back kick
in a game next year, he would be suspended fair
or fast.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
Well, I think from me what I can understand from
how the AFL looked at it is that they thought
that they couldn't tell if the what level of impact
there was, because Dame Rampy sort of just took it
and kept going where it's not Dan Rampy seems like
that sort of like if you kick, if you kick
anyone in the in the testicles, they will get quite
upset with you after being quite pained. Yes, for about
(29:29):
thirty or forty seconds, actually correct. But so I think
the fact that Dane didn't go after it, or maybe
they thought it can't have been that bad, so impact
was negligible. You can't really get an upgraded to low
from negligible.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Yeah, it's a it.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Maybe it gets thrown out at the trophy, or maybe
they is how they would have thought about that case.
I think he's he's very fortunate.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Again in ten verses outcome like he's thrown his leg back.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
He knows his I think.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Footage isn't doesn't look great. The optics are.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
No, he knows where he's he knows where the foot's going.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
I would have thought, looks like he's in the really
box and he's trying to kick it behind his head.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
Yeah, well he certainly hit a ball.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Yes, thank you balls.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Sorry Will.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
This is based off Rosslyn's comments last week making the
first round untouchable for father's son an academy bid matching
would help fix draft inequity, fear or fast we went
this press conference.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
No, that was Drew the package Jones. I think your package.
I think that Ross likes having a back and forth
with with Drew. I doesn't I think so well, Drew
likes to think so.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Is he a fan of his packages? Not a fan
of his packages?
Speaker 5 (30:34):
I don't think he sees his package packages for those
it's a it's a TV parlance.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
For yes, for tape, not stringer.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
It's not a phallic reference.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
All that is it?
Speaker 3 (30:48):
That is a fast So he said eighteen, the first
eighteen pick should be untouched.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
No fast, Perhaps you have to pay significantly more than
what they already do in the first round. Like I
understand that theory. But the romantic element having a father
son pick, whether it be picked one or pick nine,
I don't know. I think it's always had a place
in that game just made the clubs pay up significantly.
And if the club's want to get that player I
Levi Ashcroft for example, like Brisbane will pay up for it.
(31:14):
I don't think it's going to be a case of
Brisbane whatever realistically pass on someone like that within within
reason as to how high that much they should pay.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
But fast Ross and last one, David greg Swan must
enforce a strict sixty minute time limit on all tribunal deliberations.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Fair or.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
I don't even need to answer that to it. That's
I would say, that's fair man.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
How did you pull up from your ninety minute deliberation?
It was seven days ago.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
I got, I got, I got a few messages asking
if I was everything was okay, and there was it
just was a.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Goole bit of re as well, David.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
After I did see one account, decided to honestly seriously
and I turned off like a lot of the Maybe
I shouldn't, but I turned off a lot of the notifications.
I did that a long time ago. Yeah, unless I
follow these people. So a couple of accounts don't really
bother me unless there are people I respect and listen to.
That's good. Dad hasn't told me he loves me. So
(32:10):
Tony shout out.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
To Tony strong cart and support a Tony.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
He's strong, all right, He's certainly patient. He's he's one
of those guys he doesn't even get like he's just permanent.
He never gets like up at about He's just permanently pessimistic,
which I think, judging by the recent history, is smart
from Tony because they're still cooking wherever they were cooking
back in twenty twelve.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Well, Father's Days just around the corner, so yeah, when
is it just over a month away?
Speaker 4 (32:40):
First Sunday of September?
Speaker 5 (32:41):
Can you get your dad something for Father's Day?
Speaker 4 (32:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Normally yeah, Well he.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Doesn't like gifts though, I don't get anything for Christmas?
Well I do, but it's like Mum helps us because
he doesn't want of service. Maybe in some act yes,
but he doesn't want any actors. I actually, you know,
I know, I'll fix because the Fox tell that he's
got a new remote doesn't work properly. I need to
fix it.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
We'll get you on of that. It's now timed for
the mail bag on.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
The Fox Foody podcast. It's time to open up the
mail bag. Have a question for the panel. Tweetus every
Monday morning at Fox Footy.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Just three questions because we want to keep this punchy
here on the ford. It's very puny, Leslie holding this
one's for you here. Will I reckon what is the
better match up? It's a bit probably too footy heavy
for day, but at this time of the day, what
is the better match up Hawthorne's tall backs against Adelaide's
tall forwards or Hawthorne's tall forwards against Adelaide's tall backs.
(33:33):
It's definitely so Hawthorne's tall backs would be Scrimshaw, Barras
Barris against the Walker phil Thorpe, Fogginy and the tall
Fords of Hawthorne. Well, we think at the moment it's
Lewis cal Shadeer Gunston against Josh Warrel. No Max, Michael Annie.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
No, no Max, he probably wouldn't play one of them.
It's probably a Worrel Keene Butts type operation. The former.
I think I think more staff power in that had
form good headache.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Yes, uh, this is from at Mitchell Robinson.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
Mitch Robinson.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Yes, he sends another one who's asked to write this podcaster.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
No, I don't think that it is from rip Through.
It's Mitch Robins.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
Shout out to the rip Through a podcast with Mitt
Robinson and the being healthily large man that is Reese Matheson.
Have you seen him?
Speaker 3 (34:23):
He worked hard?
Speaker 5 (34:24):
No, no, but like it's Unhealthy's probably a stretch. But like
no one can be that big without like creditne creutines.
Creutcene is good. It is like it's yeah, it's great.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Body fits David Z like that must be a body
fit fait body fit this morning.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
No, I was gonna go right because I'm not a
morning guy, which is given I worked in breakfast radio.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Yes, I probably turned you into not a man.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
Probably. Yeah, So I had the laugh at six a m.
Went to bed at nine thirty, like I fell asleep
at ten like it good roturn like, well, it was
a new It took me a bit because it was new.
Worke up at six and I'm like nah, and I
just turned it off and then we make a sleep.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
It's very hard this time of the year winters.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
Yeah, so I may have I will have to go
after work to the Cardio hit concession.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
All the very best of that. Does Brisbane's ruck situation
worry you heading into the final stretch of the season,
And do you think Craig McCrae goes to these typical
two ruck set up against Brisbane, even with Mason Cox
being on the outer of the best twenty.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Two does their ruck set up?
Speaker 5 (35:25):
It doesn't really concern me too. I mean, they're not
going to have another They just they can't really replace
what Joe was doing. I don't think they can do that.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
No. I think Ford has been honorable in the role
that he's done, but it's just not Joe Danna Earth.
I think the concern comes out of Oscar mackinonly he's
getting quite sore and most of.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
Because you asked the lines, what what what? What's he
been dealing with? And it's just like it's just a
collection of things just saws like genuinely, just that many
different everything's connected, and everything just continues to play up
and one thing hurts another thing and it just keeps building.
So that would be concerned. They're going to I think
they're going to have to at some stage try and
manage it before the finals and to get him Cherry right.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
I think Mason played Bocain in the VFL in the
weekend for Collingwood. He did. Yeah, they might be one
that call upon.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
And then the last one is from at mister Mitchness.
Of the thirty seven remaining home and away matches, what
is the single most important match in this Premier Max,
particularly in regards to home finals. It could be this
Thursday night as we're getting to the tips and the cups,
as the Western Bulldogs host the Gwos Giants for the
(36:30):
Dylan Addison Cup. Very large game of AFL football.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
This one it's better than last Thursday night. Gosh, yes,
and Friday night and Saturday night. I'm backing that field.
I'm backing the Dogs because it's here and also because
of the injuries and suspension to Toby Green and Josh
Kelly Jack Backley, i think they're all pretty key outs,
(36:57):
particularly for the Dogs against their wood line that's in
good form yep, and they didn't have too much opposition
last week. But I think it's you could have lean
the Dogs and they need to get this top eight
thing like off their back. Like I know, Bevo doesn't
really bow into it because they're really close games. It's
we're not you know where, Okay, they just need to
win because they need to win. Yeah, there's no shortage
(37:20):
of reasons why they need to win it. I just
think they need it more than the Giants do currently.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
I think beyond this game, if we can assume the
Dogs win, just for hypothetical purposes, are Dogs three zero
round twenty three? I believe twenty four yeap like season
defining for both of them. Most likely I think could
be winning.
Speaker 5 (37:39):
You're in, isn't it?
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Yeah? Well three with a really good position in terms
of win lost ratio, but the percentage is dire. So
if they get level with the Dogs or any of
the other teams, I think they're in some strife. They
missed a big chance against West Coast on Saturday evening
to up that percentage. Yeah, they won't have any other
opportunities from here.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
On Friday night, we had to Adelaide for the Crows
and the Hawks. Ricky Henderson cup up for grabsa civil Fox.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Himself, Yes, Fox, Yes, Ah, Jesus, this is tough. I
know the Hawks are probably considered pretty significant outsiders I
think on the on the on the odds. But I
I've got a feeling about the Hawks. I just feel like.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
They the gut field tips at this time of the week.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
Yeah, I just think the Hawthorns just it will click.
I think it will click for the Hawks.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
They're due for a statement. Yeah, And Adelaide's probably due
for a bit of a down game. I said that
for a couple of weeks now.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
I think Hawthorne I think, and Sam Mitchell's getting a
bit I think's he'd be using the fact that everyone's
trying to think that they're the side that drops out
of the finals. Probably mean like, if you had to
pick a side based on run home, you probably pick.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Hawthorne, run home and reason for and if it's not
the doctor.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
So I just think they're gonna like going to just
make a statement. That's my gut feel.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Super Saturday Live kicks off with Melbourne hosting West Coast God.
Steven Armstrong Cup up for grabs here O six Premiership eagle.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
God, they need to win this, don't they imagine if
Melbourne lost this? Like if Melbourne lost this game?
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Well last year when Melbourne played West Coast, Melbourne thump
West Coast and Adam Simpson departed two days later.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
Are you suggesting some sort of the footy gods have
come to collect.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
In your sense? You're raised if Melbourne lost this one.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
Like, if Melbourne lost this, I don't know what happens,
but ras almost on the wall.
Speaker 5 (39:33):
Yeah, like yeah, so they just can't lose it.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Melbourne, Gold Coast and Richmond for the Brandon Ellis Cup.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
Are we going for the Gold Coast Sons? Yeah, believe
it or not.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
Sons.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Very impressive win against Brisbane on the weekend from them.
Swan's and Bombers. Craig Bird Cup up for grabs. How
about this? We've got a game starting at four to ten,
a game starting at four point fifteen.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Excellent scheduling as always, that's.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Good yep, makes it rostering fun?
Speaker 5 (40:00):
We go?
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Well?
Speaker 5 (40:00):
Oh yes, the roster. How are you you think the
drop of the fixture bosses hard? Any waterworks job?
Speaker 3 (40:07):
The roster depends on the fixture.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
Still got access to that to Excel spreadsheet from back
in my digital days. It's just quite the it's quite
the merry go around and moving past easier around. Yeah, yes,
what was the game and the Swans and the Bombers.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
We go the Swans, Swans.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Collingwood and Brisbane reasonably large game of football on Saturday night.
They've got so afl had a bad fixture scheduling round
last weekend, but they've got Dogs Giants Thursday, Crows Hawks
Friday and then this on the Saturday night calling.
Speaker 5 (40:36):
Of clean air. Yes, Collingwood's changes will be interesting. I
think Craig be craced on three sixty's not still not
sure where whether de Gooie Hill like where where they
sit I mean Brisbane. They won't play two really poor
games in their row like last week was pretty pretty
pretty great Mulligan Mulligan. It's yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
O'l Leen, Collingwood, Ollen Collingwood. But I have a lot
of decisions to make. As David said, I think it's
all of Bobby Hill, John de Gooey, Den Houston's just
come back in, will come back in. Billy Franton played
VFL on the weekend bill. Will he do a job
and Harris Andrews again I don't know.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Oh, yes, yes, the difference, Uh that was that's of
course for the Jackson Payne Cup and then we have
the Luke Delaney Cup up for grabs and Kilda in
North Melbourne kick off our Sunday ticket which you'll be
featuring on, David I hope. So yes, Well, yeah, you
saw your name and the roster.
Speaker 5 (41:36):
So yeah, that's good. It's a good start. Not our
roster though, your roster no different roster, yeah, but not
the same roster as the roster I have for my
full time job. That's a different roster because I'll go
for the you get it back to the same. Well,
North needs something.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
But the Saints Saints Grinch season at Morabin, Grim season
at Rabin or Arden Street Grinch season, oh Grinch nor final. Yeah,
North season will truly be ruined. When Sunday one forty
pm start time at Marvel Stadium is it one forty Yeah,
it's a bizarre time forty very quickly fact check that
(42:13):
one forty pm at Marble stadium's doing this?
Speaker 3 (42:16):
I'm not sure there. David's a Geelong and Port Adelaide.
That's this is three fifteen, isn't it. Yes, it is
for the Paul Cooley Otis Cuff.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
I don't know who that is, but it's great.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Now played for Port Adelaide for one season in two thousand,
had three years away, then came back to.
Speaker 5 (42:30):
Geelong for look up, do you look these up?
Speaker 3 (42:32):
I've got a little formula.
Speaker 5 (42:34):
Yeah, but it's Google the formula you google. I've played
for I've got a form This is like Max's run
home and this is like Max's tipping formula. Yeah, I've
got a form because Max has got a formula for
his tips, does it? He has got like a spreadsheet.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
He uses takes it far too seriously.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
I'm aware he's come well aware.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
Speaking of you boys are doing quite well in the tipping.
I think we're all around the same mark.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Yes, it's been I've had I've had my career best year.
Speaker 5 (42:56):
I've had an up and down year. But it's been
in Ben Coon. Ben Common came from nowhere, didn't he
He did?
Speaker 4 (43:03):
And then as well near the bottom he's stagnated.
Speaker 5 (43:05):
The last one, is he?
Speaker 4 (43:06):
I believe so. I think they're both equal at the moment.
It'd be a fascinating run home. We should do a
run home for we should do tips.
Speaker 5 (43:13):
And two very different individuals too, extremely too extraordinarily different individuals.
One would just go with his gat and just go
over that, and the other one would just within an
inch of its life dissect the game.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
I think the Cats could dissect put Adelaide very good
on Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 5 (43:29):
Cats.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
Sorry, I just have to ask Jeremy Cameron. One hundred
goals before ending of the way season, So.
Speaker 5 (43:34):
Who that on sixty nine? They've got a good run home,
They've got more Essendon's.
Speaker 4 (43:39):
Part of it. They've got part of it at Essendon. Yep.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
So all right, let's say kicks five against Port and
he kicks seven Againstdon's twelve twelve eighty one, then he
has the Swans away could be a give him to
two and then fill your boots against Richmond that you mhba,
I know the mcg in round twenty four. I reckon
he could. He could potentially get to ninety okay, yeah,
(44:06):
and then finals and then finals eat Yeah.
Speaker 5 (44:08):
So you think ninety.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
I think you can get to ninety by the end
of the home and away season.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
Yeah, grand. Just imagine if John made the Grand and imagine.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
He had to go on the Grand Final, the security that.
Speaker 5 (44:19):
Everyone runs on, don't thay you're running on?
Speaker 4 (44:22):
Yeah, I think as king you said on Saturday night,
corporate's running onto the ground in the.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
Suits got there there. Actually, the Grand Final would probably
be a good best case because they just won't be
that many people running on because they won't really it
could be starting corporates don't really Yeah, up there in
the Ivory.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
Towers anyway, Sorry, Cats win, Freemantle and Carlton finished the
round the Josh de Luca A five ten pm. Yeah, okay,
so that's why it's one forty. Yes, I think there's
a few Perth based games that are starting at five
ten in the run home here just quirky.
Speaker 4 (44:50):
Yeah, yellow Ball.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Three ten pm there, Yeah, it would be Yeah, I
think the red Ball cut off is two thirty.
Speaker 4 (44:59):
I think so. I don't think you've ever seen something
start at three pm. Maybe round one before daylight savings
kicks in March.
Speaker 5 (45:06):
That saving no plural. No, it's not the appeal board.
There's no ess at the end of it.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
Really.
Speaker 5 (45:12):
Even the AFL's official social media account says the appeals
and it really upsets me anyway, No one.
Speaker 4 (45:19):
Cares you are the appeal board.
Speaker 5 (45:21):
No, that's not what I'm saying the Fremantle.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
Fremantle forty five minutes. David. You'll take that, won't you.
That's pretty good reasoning.
Speaker 5 (45:28):
Hey, that's the tribuna. Wouldn't even be what half done
at this point, Ye, literally done.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
Adrian Anderson would just be wrapping up his first.
Speaker 5 (45:38):
First of his eight thousand reasons yes, and then lose
the case anyway.
Speaker 4 (45:41):
Three deliberations worth of a podcast.
Speaker 5 (45:44):
Yes, all the best.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
Great to have you with us.
Speaker 5 (45:46):
That's good hopefully, sorry for I'm not Max, but not right.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
And that was very very sharp. Great as per. Keep
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Arguably the flattest round in modern AFL history was saved
by beautifully Bonker's final quarter on Sunday as Nasiah Wanganame
Millerer inspired a Marvel miracle. But as the dust settles
on the superstars heroics, it's hard to ignore the elephant
in the room. A top five player in the AFL
remains unsigned for next year with four games left in
(00:37):
the Home in the Way season. So how has it
got to this and where to from here will dissect
the same situation. We'll also dive into some of the
biggest trade storylines as we hit the run home Runway,
And of course we have all of your favorite regular
segments on the Fox Footy Podcast. Ben Waterworth with you,
as is the Men Reeling from a Tuesday Retirement Bombshell,
(01:00):
Will Forkner, Hello.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Fork, Hello Ben? How are you great? Probably better than
you after Rory Atkins's retirement.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Yes, well, there could be many elephants in the room today.
It could have been Roy Reatkins's retirement, as you just said.
It also could be the man on my right and
your left. Yes, seeing David is either.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Back in his natural habitat of the Fox Footy podcast
Bunker and also the Fantastic four ambassador.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
Hello, Ben and William.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
It's magnificently nice of you to lower yourself back to.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Our I'm sorry, Nick lower Yes, Nick sorry, this is
what we do on We just say names and we
just anyways is normally. It's good to be here. Max
is in Ballyhi is still posting he did the run home.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I didn't hit the run home. And I think we've
got an all I reckon. I've got an all staff
meeting this week and I've got a dollar ten that
Max will still tune in via.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
But you can't do that.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I reckon. We take bets on what like the background
is going to be? Is it Paul Side?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Do you reckon? I reckon? He tries to massive and
he's not on leave even though he is. It does
hold on, where's the book?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
We don't have the book.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Where is it?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I don't know. Your guess is good, but yeah, I
think it could be full side. It's not on his desk,
not that I can see there. David will sits on
that desk at the moment.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
I was gonna go out. No, okay, well that's interesting, but.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
We've got some very good contents still coming your way,
which you're going to enhance, no doubt, your common hands
with your commentary on the three podcast. For some it'll
be a case of where were you when Nasai won
the Marvel miracle for Sin Kilda? Is he now a
top five player in the competition?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
For I would say yes, without having done the list itself,
certainly the most valuable with Saint Kilda. Put adelaidea adelaide
you're about to find out, but yes, I mean it's crazy.
He just keeps doing it week on week on week,
and halfway through an article at the moment as to
I don't think we've ever seen someone's worth go up
so rapidly in the space of such a short time,
(02:56):
let alone be out of contract during that period.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
So what what does that mean for his footy future?
For he remains unsigned for twenty twenty six and beyond
at probably the player on everyone's lips at the moment.
It's hard to it's hard to know where it's from
reading of reports, it's hard to know where he's going
to go.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
It's incredible. I mean, you know more than most that
I've been very big on the fact that Port Adelaide
would be the place that he plays in twenty twenty six.
I think we've gotten to a point where it is
genuinely impossible to work out where he's playing next year,
I said to fellow staff member Jack Jovinoski earlier today Drama.
Yes that I think something like that happening on the weekend.
Rikiu is a go after the star and plays such
(03:37):
a big part in Saint Kilda winning. It's an intangible
thing that Saint Kilda now has witness sigh. I think
that can't be underestimated how big a moment that can
be in his future going to folklore dred percent and
we saw the celebrations at Hotel Brighton on Sunday night. Yes,
which I dare say with no doubt amplified by his
antics on ross lines shoulders. But I think it's gotten
(03:59):
to the point now have no idea where he's going.
I still think it's a two horse race, but it's
no longer Pourt, It's no longer Saint Kilda. I think
the fact that Saint Kilda still keep feeling the need
to increase the money that's in front of him tells
me they're still not very confident. But the lines as
blur as they ever have been this season.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Robert Marshall claimed in the press conference yesterday David that
Ross actually tried to lift him up first, or thought
about lifting him up.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
I'm staggered that Ross could lift Nas up. I've seen
that man walk in and out at press conferences, and
Labored is putting it mildly. I think his hips might
not be all like that good as you know, it
made some hip issues, but I'm stagging he got Nas
on his shoulders and that's the lengths he is going
to to.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
He's the first time Maasket up on some shoulders on absolutely.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Probably a part of his game that we really hadn't
seen the contested marks.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
So I think that's how he's been practicing. It's just
getting up atross Lane shoulders at various points.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Well maybe, but honestly, I'm like that is as good
a performance and Ross as any of his coaching efforts. Seriously, like,
I can't believe you got him up there. So well
played to him, and if that's what gets him over
the line, then all credit to you. Ross.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
You've been to a lot of Ross presses. I've had
the privilege of going to a lot of Ross presses
this year, and I reckon THEI size people asked every one,
every two he's asked.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
About, doesn't take it, doesn't take overly kindly to it.
None you ask about that. I think Ross is interesting,
he seems to think. And maybe maybe I'm out of
the loop here or not, and maybe I'm in a
media journalist bubble, but he seems to think that the
questions that the weekly press conferences have to be about
the game, like and when they're not about the game
that week, he starts to get a bit all right,
come on, what are we doing. I don't know if
(05:35):
that's the rule I would.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I would say, from a journalism perspective, midweek very much
fair game to ask whatever you want in terms of
general footy issues. But after after the.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Game, after the game the game, Yes, different difference. Yes, sorry,
I'm referring to his weekly press conferences. Yes, but even
those press conferences he gets a bit, He gets a bit,
He gets a bit upset when you have you with
you at all. No, just it's not just me. I
think it's supposed to be with anyone who's asked it, like, oh,
you know, it's a I think I asked him once
in one press conference, what if you made at the
(06:04):
team's direction this season, where do you think you are?
And he said it was a strange question for a
weekly press conference about an upcoming game, And.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I thought, well, it's not really, I can't win.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
It's not about an upcoming like it's about everything. Yeah,
in the midweek, but we got to ask pregame about Nazen.
He was, You've got a bit to gotta get upset
with which yet?
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Which?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yeah, Kelly's got every right to ask that question. Also
understand his response.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Yeah, Well, I just I think everyone wants to know
where he's going. But Ross maintains he doesn't really know
which is It's saggering. It seems like no one really knows.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
So if he left Sinkilda considering I think there is
a genuine emotional attachment from fans to him now that
was only amplified from the weekend. How much how much
of a blow is this to sin Kilda in its
journey under Ross? If Nasaiah leaves to a South Australian
based club.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
I think it's huge. If they lose Nassaiah, I think
it's just massive. Consider what he's the fact that they're
all in on the youth and building. He should be
at the centerpiece of what they're building right as a club.
So if he leaves, it's a building block of the club,
that a foundational piece that's gone. Like is everything that
they need at the moment. And to lose him, I
(07:16):
think would be just an extraordinary blow. He can lose.
You can lose Row Marshall. We can talk about him
later on. We can lose Ro Marshall. You can lose
you know, there's been word about Jack Steele wanting to go.
You can lose. That's fine, but like it's you know
they're going, which is always sad. But if they go,
but to lose Naz, I mean, he's just like everything
they need at the moment. Everything.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
What I love about the wangan A miller A story
is that that's a that's a christach A pick from
a few years ago as well, flew over to South
Australia a week and a bit before the draft and
got him a pick eleven. We always talk about some
Kilda being stuck in no man's land, not quite bottoming
out to get those top picks, but they nailed that
at pick eleven. But now, Folk, you've been big on
the fact that Port Adelaide's would be the club that
(07:58):
he would go to if you. The thing is, though
Port Adelaide does two part. They don't have a first
round pick in this year's draft, but they can trade
picks not only next year, but the year after that
as well, So how can they get a deal done here?
Speaker 4 (08:13):
They would really be the only way they could facilitate it. Ben,
I mean, Zach Butters is the person at Pudalaide now
who's coming up to out of contract at the end
of the next year, who's been most spoken about leaving Alberton.
I can't see him leaving this year, which means he's
no use to the NASA any Thesiah trade that's proposed.
And we're being really blunt. If por Adelaide lose Butters,
(08:34):
they will get back some form of compensation that they
would have had to give up this year to get Nasiah.
So if at any point they value in the Siah
more than Zach Butter's, which is a very I think
it's a very lineball call. But they if they lose Butters,
they would get back what they give up from the
sire more or less, give or take. But it's gonna
have to be in draft capital. I can't really see
any of their other star players leaving. Rosie stays, Horn
(08:57):
Francis is locked in long term, Miles is just recent signed,
he's not going to leave this year. George Yard is
his long term. Like, there isn't anyone there that has
star power in their top bracket that could be used
for a trade other than Butters. And as I said,
that's not gonna be this year, that's gonna be next
year if anything. And also you have to factor in,
is sank Kilda the club that Butters would want to
go to even if he did want to go this.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Because he's always been linked to the Western based Victorian clubs.
He's a Western Jets product, the Dogs and the Cats.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Dogs and the Cats of the two that he's been
linked to early on, so and Hawthorne more loosely. But
I think any star players is always going to be
linked to Hawkne We'll get to the Hawk. Okay, yeah,
but that's the only way they're gonna be able to
facilitate a trade I can see, which makes it quite tough.
But Saint kildeano a position where if they lose the side,
god forbid. If you're a Saints fan, draft capital is
(09:42):
probably the way they're going to need to go because
they're stuck at the bottom end of that loophole, I think, and.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
They'll be they'll be well compensated if it comes to that,
but they would not want to lose a known superstar commodity.
But in the wake of Someday's results, David, the Saints
put rowand Marshall up. I reckon to the media for
the first time in months.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Here this up in the office. I don't recall when
I last when we last spoke to him.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
He was asked about and naturally he was asking I think,
was Pete Ryan who was there, Who's one of the greats.
He was asked about the prospect of blue free agent
Tom Dacony joining Some Kilda and then was asked by
Fox Sports News representative David Zita he had considered his
own future after being linked to rival clubs. Safe to say,
(10:24):
David that he did not alleviate any concerns.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
He said, he's I think he said he's employed by
the Saint Kilder Football Club to perform. He's focus on
the last four weeks. He knows it's a cliche, but
he's really keen to perform. In the last he spoke
about his current form, I was very I mean, that
was that's probably why they haven't put him up because
there's obviously some truth to stuff. People will disagree, but
(10:48):
the stuff about Roal Marshall wouldn't just come out of nowhere,
and him being potentially a bit uneasy about the fact
that Tom Deconning might come across and get an extraordinary
amount of money to take responsibilities off the hand of
role Marshall. So I wasn't very convinced by his answer
that he was staying. And I also wasn't very convinced
by I asked him, do you want to be the
(11:10):
number one guy or do you like working with someone else?
And he said, well, I don't care as long as
we're winning, which he hasn't. But yeah, you say that publicly.
I just I've heard far stronger shows of I'm staying
publicly and then people leave. So this was not certainly
wasn't convincing.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
So is it now more likely the only two players
who were involved in ultimately the match winning play for
Sekilda won't be at Sekulta next year.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Yeah, entirely. Yeah, that's too beast player.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Because if and this is the thing for a Carlton perspective,
because if Tom Deacony joins sin Kilda and Jack Silvanney
joins Collingwood, and that's gaining serious momentum in the past week,
the Blues would likely get a first round compensation pickback
for Daconing, So that would come That would be almost
a top ten pick at the moment, and then a
second round up may be even an end of first
(12:01):
round compensation pick for Sylvanne should he join Collingwood. Would
that be a good result, David, for Carlton to get
that draft capital, considering they don't have at the moment
a first round pick.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
I think it would be. Yeah. I mean Tom Deaconing, Like, sure,
he's not worth one point seven, He's not worth what
is being offered to him. Like, I don't think anyone
would say he's worth the amount he's being offered. But
you have to offer them more to get them out,
so you almost just take the first round. It's great
to give you a first round pick and you say, farewell,
you've got Mark Pittnett sitting there like who's.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Great, like statistically the best bat in the competition.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
So there's no issue for them. They're losing a player
they don't really they can afford to lose, so to speak,
like they can't afford to keep and so I don't
think that's a big issue for them. Silvannie is more
of a heart and soul. That's a bit of a
blow when he's finally found his footing. But to see
him go to Collingwood would probably probably sting a bit.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
It's about as unromantic as it gets.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Well maybe, well, Stephen Silvanni and the Blues, this is
probably a great case where you could see Stephen Savanna
without knowing you're gonn almost see him go mate, just
go go to Collingwood, just to stick it up. He's older,
he's old, employout. But whether that happens, I'm not sure,
but I don't think it's that much of a considering.
They're trying to almost recalibrating at the moment that the
(13:16):
Blues and they've got some new leadership coming in. It
wouldn't be a bad thing to have some good draft hand.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
So if you could only keep one, then because Charlie Curno,
Sam Walsh and Harry McKay are also linked to movies,
if you could only keep one of those three players
of kern, O, Walsh and Mackay, who are you wanting
to keep?
Speaker 5 (13:33):
How old Sam Walsh? Yeah, pick one back in twenty eighteen,
and what's Kerner twenty three?
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Three years older?
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Well, I wouldn't want to lose both of Kur. I'd
say I'd keep Walsh, but only only on the basis
that I'm keeping one of Colonel and Mackay. If I
don't want to lose Colonel and Mackay, I'd lose one
of them. I wouldn't lose both and Walsh if he
can get his body right and get that field just
some run and carry, which they don't really he sort
(14:04):
of turned more into an inside I'm not surely I
think he needs to be, like, there needs to be
some recalibration with him. I think you can afford to
lose one of Colonel and Mackay, like I don't think
they should. You don't need to be as wedded to
they're both here, they're staying long term, they're not moving.
You don't lose both.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
You were at Michael Voss's press conference, and again you're
very good at putting the hard questions to the coaches.
You asked about the Charlie Kurno reports. Let the Sam
Dockerty questions out the way earlier Michael Voss's MIDWEK press comment.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
But we did have the press conference for Sam like
the day before. We gave him his flowers and hit
a package on him.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
And clearly it was not Charlie Curno himself addressing the question.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Well, Charlie did later on he did, But.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Then from Michael Voss's perspective, that was as emphatic a
backing of a player remaining at a club as you
will see and.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Hear yeah, I find yeah again it was more just
him saying he's staying at Carlton as opposed to he
said he didn't need to speak to Charlie about it, about
the reports that he didn't need to. He said, well,
it's speculation, it's not. I'm like, well, I mean, this
is not that doesn't just come out of thin air
like someone said something. Obviously, Tom's not going to say
(15:15):
he's not going to do that, like this is Tom
and Cow They're not. They're not, they're not, They're not idiots.
They know what they're talking about.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Tom said the club was aware of trying to do
it and.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
They've had to tell him or in his management that
it's not happening.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
It was a pretty air tight report like it's not.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Gonna yeah, and then Cal's backed it up with two
other clubs that were in them, like it's not it's
not false. Right, So I think Voss he probably tried
the side step it a bit, but maybe he basically
was admitting it, but just saying, look, he's staying here,
he's not leaving. That's that's that's the matter at the
end of it is he's staying or not, and in
his eyes, he's staying. And then Charlie Kerner said I'm
(15:50):
not leaving. Done again, he wasn't asked, you know. He
says he's happy there and whatnot, and it doesn't seem
like he doesn't like Carlton's. It seems like it's more
of a lifestyle. I want to live in the Gold
Coast and live outside of the bubble, which, as we
all know, particularly around the Round twenty one, Round twenty
Mark can get quiet like it just can get quite exhausting,
can be hard.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
What about Can you see all three of Walsh, McKay
and Kerno Fork all being a cult next year?
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Yeah, definitely. I think the way they finished this season
and maybe for them the retention of Voss is important
to them to play on next year. I don't know.
The Walsh noise seems to be more the end of
next year because he'd becoming into restricted free agency. I
think next year, so I would think in Walsh's best
interest would be if he's going to move, it would
(16:37):
be the end of twenty twenty six. Kerno, I think,
as Ralphie put pretty well, for a superstar to be
traded like him, it's even harder to get a trade
in return where both parties are happy. Ben King, someone
who has been tout, is coming back down from the
Gold Coast. So if Charlie was to move to the
(16:57):
Gold Coast, I believe they had the same management, maybe
something that could be worked out. Very hypothetical. And mckaid
he was probably the first of those three to be
put on the radar earlier this year.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
It's been on the radar for Ale almost a couple
of years.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Yeah, yeah, well yeah, it seems like he As far
as I need to probably check back in on this,
it seems as far as I'm aware, the state of
play is that he doesn't want to go. But if
the Blues, it would have to be the Blues sort
of initiating at all for it to be something that
was to be discussed. It would have to be something
led by the Blues, which I can see happening. If
(17:31):
Graham Wright comes in and decides that we need to
do something here, we need to We've got some capital,
let's try and use it. That's when I could see
that happened.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
And everyone keep trefacing the brutal Collingwood calls made at
the end of the twenty twenty season where they cuts
out to law Stevenson r two percent of alagi as
we can't get.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Doesn't he gets left out?
Speaker 3 (17:52):
It does?
Speaker 5 (17:52):
And there are two he does. There are more than two.
He was the third.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
That's right, good afternoon to two. If he's listening, I'm
sure he is. The giche was unleashed in per recently.
Nick Geeshon, the manager of Harley Reed.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Doesn't do a lot of media.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
But he was his doorstop, door stop.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
That's that's why. That's when you do a media's media.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
He did some, that's right. Nick Gieshon flew back from
from Perth recently. So no, not just for Harley Reed,
but no doubt that his future would have been discussed
in stage. So West Coast back in apes and good
commission put multiple offers in front of Harley Reid. Then
this month, so three months later, the Red Camp has
come back with counteroffers, the big one essentially being an
(18:34):
eleven year deal worth approximately twenty four million dollars, which
is which is decent coin. Yes, how much do you
read in his into his Instagram posts that he put
up on.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Fork, I feel like have a little bit more to
say that. I mean, if you look at the RB,
if you can have if you can have positives within
an Instagram post, probably one of them. How much weight
does it hold in the grand scheme of things, Probably
not a whole lot. Yeah, shame of season came to
an end. Great that he could put together a good
(19:10):
caption for West Coast Eagles fans. Oh yes, yeah, that's
about all I would say on it. Really, I don't
think it really means a whole lot. I think really
it's down to West Coast. It's whether or not they
want to take that deal that's been put in front
of them by Nick Deishonz. You've obviously a lot to
say on this.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
No, No, I don't. I just social like it's a
social It's a social media post like.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
It was big biggest hints.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
Yeah, No, just it's a social media post. He's not. No,
it's just a post. We all right, captions and we move.
It's not a big thing.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Tom got a bit of flak for it last week,
but his report is his sound right in terms of
he will not enter twenty twenty six unsigned for twenty
twenty seven.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Yeah, he was grossly misquoted by an account on x
which I think brought a fair dis scrutiny towards his way.
But yeah, as you said, what he was saying was
that he's they're not going to put him through one
last year of being uncontracted to which I mean the
media scrutiny around him already is just unheld. Is that
unhelded unprecedented? Apprecedented, so, and it's already a bit ridiculous.
(20:13):
So I can totally understand that we expecting home and
away do we think.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
Well, you'd have to.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
I mean, I don't know if you want to let
it get to the trade period.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
Yeah, that's all that main you want to you want
to just if.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
You're staying yes, if you're staying yes, sorry, obviously if
you're going to get traded.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Then you would leave it to the trade period.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Yeah, but I think he's Yeah, you'd think it's sooner
better than later, wouldn't you. Apparently I've still got a month.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Apparently Hawthorne are in love with him. So we you
mentioned the Hawks out, Yes, Hawthorne.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Was in Australia with him.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
If if if he left West Coast, do you think
Hawthorne's it would be in positioned.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
I just think you'd see everyone come from the woodwork
try and get a get a look in Hawthorne. I mean,
what did you call to me say that they're like
a borderline obsessed with him?
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Oh yeah, that was his quote.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Yes, that was knocked back a little bit by Sam Mitchell.
Yeah right, Well, I think he questioned, are we obsessed
with him?
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Well? I think the media as a whole, we're probably
bought a lot obsessed with I don't think there've beenny
shortage of clubs.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
I'm not going to pretend I can pick one for
you point blank. Ben, do you think he stays at
West Coast beyond this year?
Speaker 3 (21:19):
I feel like I think he does.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Feel like he does too.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
I think he does. But what what they've done here
is they've been shrewd with the setup of this contract
where it's, as I mentioned, essentially eleven years, but it's
a two year extens with a trigger for nine years
after that, and it just gives him flexibility.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Contract. Poor Ryan Lester has been going one year contract.
I've probably had triggers for the last six years.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
We're all we're not even on a year. We're just
one rolling yeah, rolling, Brendan Bolton, David Nobles. See what
happened there? Just long any day there we could just
good goodbye?
Speaker 1 (21:54):
It is?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
It a bit like Josh Kelly's deal.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Josh Kelly was there a nine year, it was a
nine or ten, he had the sugar the short term
one and then it was a massive trigger.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
It's a similar ish to that that and Josh Kelly
has stayed the course despite so many offers when he
was really in the peak of his career. So I
give them flexibility, but it's just where the West Coast
are committed to that cash.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
To him going right, I'm triggering it. Yeah, there's nine
years and there's twenty four.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Million overs significant. Should he be the most paid player
in the AFL, David.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
I think marketing wise and just the sort of X
factor he brings. I would say it wouldn't upset me
if he was the big highest paid player in the comp. No,
if he is to but if he's playing at this
level in three years, I'd say he shouldn't be. But
I think natural development he'll be. He'll get better. I
(22:47):
think he'll get a lot better than what he is now.
He'll just sort of start to unlock things.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
So from a West Coast perspective, they're highly likely to
lose Oscar Allen as a free agent for nothing to Brisbane,
and Brisbane could also acquire Samva for nothing. On top
of that, they could also get They should also get
the best pure midfielder in the draft this year, Daniel
Annibal from the Lions academy, who had twenty eight disposed
(23:11):
as a team high in the VFL lines on the weekend.
The guy can seriously play. I think he'd be playing
now David Brisbane's list.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Well on Brisbane's list if he's Brisbane SIDR.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Now I think he would be as part of that midfield.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Very high sort of praise.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
So your second in your Paris, he was.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Second in my Paris last week.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
Well, you say for nothing, but they're getting they we're
getting a pick pick two, well pick for Oscarl.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
But I'm saying Brisbane is getting them.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Excuse me, sorry, excuse me.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
So but West Coast will be getting pick two response back,
and how West Coast use that selection in terms of
do they split it again, which they've received some negative
feedback for doing in the past, or taking a pick
two right there? Sure, but they also the lines might
lose Brandon's starts it's to West Coast as a free
agent there, So from how do you read what's the
(24:04):
best case scenario? Then from a West Coast perspective that
they get picked to you back from for Oscar Allen
get Brandon Stasovich's that's probably not the worst result, Not
at all.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
It's not the worst result. I mean, there aren't going
to be too many other rival players looking to come
back to West Coast. I don't think so. I think
anyone that wants to come to your club is a
good thing. Starts which is a Premiership hero Brisbane, very
very good defender touch, what he stay is healthy. It's
a great acquisition.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
That's the biggest concern.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
You've got Liam Baker, You've got Jack Graham, You've got
a few other senior guys who you've come in in
the last few years. And then from a draft perspective,
is it do you go for quality or quantity?
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Depends on which pick you have. Yeah, I think this
is the year to target quality if you try and
get as high as you can. Because it was doing
the rankings last week I got to about twelve and
then from thirteen onwards it was like you could close
to throwing darts at the dartboard in terms of where
(25:03):
you would rank them.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
And as I said, I don't know who you would
get with a pick, like who else would come into
the club with that pick. So unless there was someone
that was seriously worth it, and you would hope had
a lot of time left in their career, they're not
sort of an aging veteran like what North Melbourne did
with Luke Parker and Jack Darling. I would assume you
would take it to the draft.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
That is an immatate sort of trade focused start. I
did promise David would be punchy. So let's keep moving.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
And now on the Fox Footy Podcast, another strong edition
of Australia's favorite segment, Fair or Fast.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Fair or Fast? Yes, Yes, will losing Zach Merritt will
rip apart the rebuild at Essendon. Fair or Fast will rip.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Apart if he lest left lest right Lester? Yes, Yes,
I mean yeah, certainly would. He's been a heart and
soul of the club since they dot Really do I
think you'll leave? No? No, if he did, yes, it would.
I think it's fair.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
I feel like the Brad Scott Zach Merritt relationship is
too tight, too tight for him to Yeah, I got this.
That's that's it's not unhealthy at all. It's I think
it's very healthy. That Yeah, I can't. I think he's
just all in.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
It's got like bon Bevo vibes, doesn't it, but very
very very intertwined, David.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
The AFL has clearly softened its stance on players dangerously
pushing opponents Fair or fast.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Clearly softened or.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Fine?
Speaker 5 (26:35):
I'd say fair in fair and that I think we
probably it was like the descent, you know, you get
to a certain point, it's just like, oh you can,
and it really hit its peak with the Ryan Mansell
push and then the my check one. I think it
could have gone either way. I think he's probably lucky
to get away with a fine, definitely. So I think
if it was back when that Mansele thing happened, maybe,
(26:57):
if it was at that point where we're all talking
about pushes in the tests, maybe he gets a week.
So I think he is. He'd be pretty happy to
Not that you're happy to pay a hefty fine, but
that's I think he's got off well there.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
But if it's a couple of centimeters either way from
Nick Vostone as well and some serious damage, absolutely he's looking.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Yeah, there's another intent versus outcome.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
Well, I mean, if Nick Floston is concust from that,
what happens, I mean I think, well, yeah, if it's yeah,
yeah it is. So that's that's how it works in
the system. So I think he's very I think he's
fortunate rather than such good practice. It's good fortune rather
than good practice, as they said in their trophy in
all the other week.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
And Sillery question that was the secondary Do you sense
that the mrro matrix is near the top of Greg
Swan's priority list to assess.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
Top I don't know if it's near the top, but
I think it's certainly well. If he's got a list
of what did you say? Forty three things, I think
it would be forty three pages. I think it would
be near the top. How many things that are on
forty three pages?
Speaker 3 (27:58):
It depends on the fonts on Yeah yeah, comic.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Sans Liberty Times, the Roman windings.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
It depends on the Joe Fonti size, Willery, we love caliber.
Toby Green's halftime comment didn't cross the line, but he
was pretty darn close to it.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Fair or fast, that's fair, I think retrospectively knowing why
Toby said what he said, which was in reference to
Papley calling Stringer overweight, yes, I think it was just
tongue in cheek and trying to shed light as to
what Papley had said. It was clearly the first thing
that came to his mind, and there was no filter
because it was about all of a four second interview.
(28:36):
I mean, they're two guys who don't beat around the bush.
I don't think anyone was particularly offended, and probably speaks
to the fact that Papley sent Greens McDonald's later that
night shows you there's some pretty good band to between
the two. So I'm glad there wasn't any intervention perhaps
kicking or to quote Damon hard but you're kicking the
nuts after kicking Dane Rampy at the very start.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Of that game a segway stand by David.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Yes, then if Toby Green did the same back kick
in a game next year, he would be suspended fair
or fast.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
Well, I think from me what I can understand from
how the AFL looked at it is that they thought
that they couldn't tell if the what level of impact
there was, because Dame Rampy sort of just took it
and kept going where it's not Dan Rampy seems like
that sort of like if you kick, if you kick
anyone in the in the testicles, they will get quite
upset with you after being quite pained. Yes, for about
(29:29):
thirty or forty seconds, actually correct. But so I think
the fact that Dane didn't go after it, or maybe
they thought it can't have been that bad, so impact
was negligible. You can't really get an upgraded to low
from negligible.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Yeah, it's a it.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Maybe it gets thrown out at the trophy, or maybe
they is how they would have thought about that case.
I think he's he's very fortunate.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Again in ten verses outcome like he's thrown his leg back.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
He knows his I think.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Footage isn't doesn't look great. The optics are.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
No, he knows where he's he knows where the foot's going.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
I would have thought, looks like he's in the really
box and he's trying to kick it behind his head.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
Yeah, well he certainly hit a ball.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Yes, thank you balls.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Sorry Will.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
This is based off Rosslyn's comments last week making the
first round untouchable for father's son an academy bid matching
would help fix draft inequity, fear or fast we went
this press conference.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
No, that was Drew the package Jones. I think your package.
I think that Ross likes having a back and forth
with with Drew. I doesn't I think so well, Drew
likes to think so.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Is he a fan of his packages? Not a fan
of his packages?
Speaker 5 (30:34):
I don't think he sees his package packages for those
it's a it's a TV parlance.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
For yes, for tape, not stringer.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
It's not a phallic reference.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
All that is it?
Speaker 3 (30:48):
That is a fast So he said eighteen, the first
eighteen pick should be untouched.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
No fast, Perhaps you have to pay significantly more than
what they already do in the first round. Like I
understand that theory. But the romantic element having a father
son pick, whether it be picked one or pick nine,
I don't know. I think it's always had a place
in that game just made the clubs pay up significantly.
And if the club's want to get that player I
Levi Ashcroft for example, like Brisbane will pay up for it.
(31:14):
I don't think it's going to be a case of
Brisbane whatever realistically pass on someone like that within within
reason as to how high that much they should pay.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
But fast Ross and last one, David greg Swan must
enforce a strict sixty minute time limit on all tribunal deliberations.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Fair or.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
I don't even need to answer that to it. That's
I would say, that's fair man.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
How did you pull up from your ninety minute deliberation?
It was seven days ago.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
I got, I got, I got a few messages asking
if I was everything was okay, and there was it
just was a.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Goole bit of re as well, David.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
After I did see one account, decided to honestly seriously
and I turned off like a lot of the Maybe
I shouldn't, but I turned off a lot of the notifications.
I did that a long time ago. Yeah, unless I
follow these people. So a couple of accounts don't really
bother me unless there are people I respect and listen to.
That's good. Dad hasn't told me he loves me. So
(32:10):
Tony shout out.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
To Tony strong cart and support a Tony.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
He's strong, all right, He's certainly patient. He's he's one
of those guys he doesn't even get like he's just permanent.
He never gets like up at about He's just permanently pessimistic,
which I think, judging by the recent history, is smart
from Tony because they're still cooking wherever they were cooking
back in twenty twelve.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Well, Father's Days just around the corner, so yeah, when
is it just over a month away?
Speaker 4 (32:40):
First Sunday of September?
Speaker 5 (32:41):
Can you get your dad something for Father's Day?
Speaker 4 (32:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Normally yeah, Well he.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Doesn't like gifts though, I don't get anything for Christmas?
Well I do, but it's like Mum helps us because
he doesn't want of service. Maybe in some act yes,
but he doesn't want any actors. I actually, you know,
I know, I'll fix because the Fox tell that he's
got a new remote doesn't work properly. I need to
fix it.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
We'll get you on of that. It's now timed for
the mail bag on.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
The Fox Foody podcast. It's time to open up the
mail bag. Have a question for the panel. Tweetus every
Monday morning at Fox Footy.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Just three questions because we want to keep this punchy
here on the ford. It's very puny, Leslie holding this
one's for you here. Will I reckon what is the
better match up? It's a bit probably too footy heavy
for day, but at this time of the day, what
is the better match up Hawthorne's tall backs against Adelaide's
tall forwards or Hawthorne's tall forwards against Adelaide's tall backs.
(33:33):
It's definitely so Hawthorne's tall backs would be Scrimshaw, Barras
Barris against the Walker phil Thorpe, Fogginy and the tall
Fords of Hawthorne. Well, we think at the moment it's
Lewis cal Shadeer Gunston against Josh Warrel. No Max, Michael Annie.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
No, no Max, he probably wouldn't play one of them.
It's probably a Worrel Keene Butts type operation. The former.
I think I think more staff power in that had
form good headache.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Yes, uh, this is from at Mitchell Robinson.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
Mitch Robinson.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Yes, he sends another one who's asked to write this podcaster.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
No, I don't think that it is from rip Through.
It's Mitch Robins.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
Shout out to the rip Through a podcast with Mitt
Robinson and the being healthily large man that is Reese Matheson.
Have you seen him?
Speaker 3 (34:23):
He worked hard?
Speaker 5 (34:24):
No, no, but like it's Unhealthy's probably a stretch. But like
no one can be that big without like creditne creutines.
Creutcene is good. It is like it's yeah, it's great.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Body fits David Z like that must be a body
fit fait body fit this morning.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
No, I was gonna go right because I'm not a
morning guy, which is given I worked in breakfast radio.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Yes, I probably turned you into not a man.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
Probably. Yeah, So I had the laugh at six a m.
Went to bed at nine thirty, like I fell asleep
at ten like it good roturn like, well, it was
a new It took me a bit because it was new.
Worke up at six and I'm like nah, and I
just turned it off and then we make a sleep.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
It's very hard this time of the year winters.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
Yeah, so I may have I will have to go
after work to the Cardio hit concession.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
All the very best of that. Does Brisbane's ruck situation
worry you heading into the final stretch of the season,
And do you think Craig McCrae goes to these typical
two ruck set up against Brisbane, even with Mason Cox
being on the outer of the best twenty.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Two does their ruck set up?
Speaker 5 (35:25):
It doesn't really concern me too. I mean, they're not
going to have another They just they can't really replace
what Joe was doing. I don't think they can do that.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
No. I think Ford has been honorable in the role
that he's done, but it's just not Joe Danna Earth.
I think the concern comes out of Oscar mackinonly he's
getting quite sore and most of.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
Because you asked the lines, what what what? What's he
been dealing with? And it's just like it's just a
collection of things just saws like genuinely, just that many
different everything's connected, and everything just continues to play up
and one thing hurts another thing and it just keeps building.
So that would be concerned. They're going to I think
they're going to have to at some stage try and
manage it before the finals and to get him Cherry right.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
I think Mason played Bocain in the VFL in the
weekend for Collingwood. He did. Yeah, they might be one
that call upon.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
And then the last one is from at mister Mitchness.
Of the thirty seven remaining home and away matches, what
is the single most important match in this Premier Max,
particularly in regards to home finals. It could be this
Thursday night as we're getting to the tips and the cups,
as the Western Bulldogs host the Gwos Giants for the
(36:30):
Dylan Addison Cup. Very large game of AFL football.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
This one it's better than last Thursday night. Gosh, yes,
and Friday night and Saturday night. I'm backing that field.
I'm backing the Dogs because it's here and also because
of the injuries and suspension to Toby Green and Josh
Kelly Jack Backley, i think they're all pretty key outs,
(36:57):
particularly for the Dogs against their wood line that's in
good form yep, and they didn't have too much opposition
last week. But I think it's you could have lean
the Dogs and they need to get this top eight
thing like off their back. Like I know, Bevo doesn't
really bow into it because they're really close games. It's
we're not you know where, Okay, they just need to
win because they need to win. Yeah, there's no shortage
(37:20):
of reasons why they need to win it. I just
think they need it more than the Giants do currently.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
I think beyond this game, if we can assume the
Dogs win, just for hypothetical purposes, are Dogs three zero
round twenty three? I believe twenty four yeap like season
defining for both of them. Most likely I think could
be winning.
Speaker 5 (37:39):
You're in, isn't it?
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Yeah? Well three with a really good position in terms
of win lost ratio, but the percentage is dire. So
if they get level with the Dogs or any of
the other teams, I think they're in some strife. They
missed a big chance against West Coast on Saturday evening
to up that percentage. Yeah, they won't have any other
opportunities from here.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
On Friday night, we had to Adelaide for the Crows
and the Hawks. Ricky Henderson cup up for grabsa civil Fox.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Himself, Yes, Fox, Yes, Ah, Jesus, this is tough. I
know the Hawks are probably considered pretty significant outsiders I
think on the on the on the odds. But I
I've got a feeling about the Hawks. I just feel like.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
They the gut field tips at this time of the week.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
Yeah, I just think the Hawthorns just it will click.
I think it will click for the Hawks.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
They're due for a statement. Yeah, And Adelaide's probably due
for a bit of a down game. I said that
for a couple of weeks now.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
I think Hawthorne I think, and Sam Mitchell's getting a
bit I think's he'd be using the fact that everyone's
trying to think that they're the side that drops out
of the finals. Probably mean like, if you had to
pick a side based on run home, you probably pick.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Hawthorne, run home and reason for and if it's not
the doctor.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
So I just think they're gonna like going to just
make a statement. That's my gut feel.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Super Saturday Live kicks off with Melbourne hosting West Coast God.
Steven Armstrong Cup up for grabs here O six Premiership eagle.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
God, they need to win this, don't they imagine if
Melbourne lost this? Like if Melbourne lost this game?
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Well last year when Melbourne played West Coast, Melbourne thump
West Coast and Adam Simpson departed two days later.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
Are you suggesting some sort of the footy gods have
come to collect.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
In your sense? You're raised if Melbourne lost this one.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
Like, if Melbourne lost this, I don't know what happens,
but ras almost on the wall.
Speaker 5 (39:33):
Yeah, like yeah, so they just can't lose it.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Melbourne, Gold Coast and Richmond for the Brandon Ellis Cup.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
Are we going for the Gold Coast Sons? Yeah, believe
it or not.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
Sons.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Very impressive win against Brisbane on the weekend from them.
Swan's and Bombers. Craig Bird Cup up for grabs. How
about this? We've got a game starting at four to ten,
a game starting at four point fifteen.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Excellent scheduling as always, that's.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Good yep, makes it rostering fun?
Speaker 5 (40:00):
We go?
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Well?
Speaker 5 (40:00):
Oh yes, the roster. How are you you think the
drop of the fixture bosses hard? Any waterworks job?
Speaker 3 (40:07):
The roster depends on the fixture.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
Still got access to that to Excel spreadsheet from back
in my digital days. It's just quite the it's quite
the merry go around and moving past easier around. Yeah, yes,
what was the game and the Swans and the Bombers.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
We go the Swans, Swans.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Collingwood and Brisbane reasonably large game of football on Saturday night.
They've got so afl had a bad fixture scheduling round
last weekend, but they've got Dogs Giants Thursday, Crows Hawks
Friday and then this on the Saturday night calling.
Speaker 5 (40:36):
Of clean air. Yes, Collingwood's changes will be interesting. I
think Craig be craced on three sixty's not still not
sure where whether de Gooie Hill like where where they
sit I mean Brisbane. They won't play two really poor
games in their row like last week was pretty pretty
pretty great Mulligan Mulligan. It's yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
O'l Leen, Collingwood, Ollen Collingwood. But I have a lot
of decisions to make. As David said, I think it's
all of Bobby Hill, John de Gooey, Den Houston's just
come back in, will come back in. Billy Franton played
VFL on the weekend bill. Will he do a job
and Harris Andrews again I don't know.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Oh, yes, yes, the difference, Uh that was that's of
course for the Jackson Payne Cup and then we have
the Luke Delaney Cup up for grabs and Kilda in
North Melbourne kick off our Sunday ticket which you'll be
featuring on, David I hope. So yes, Well, yeah, you
saw your name and the roster.
Speaker 5 (41:36):
So yeah, that's good. It's a good start. Not our
roster though, your roster no different roster, yeah, but not
the same roster as the roster I have for my
full time job. That's a different roster because I'll go
for the you get it back to the same. Well,
North needs something.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
But the Saints Saints Grinch season at Morabin, Grim season
at Rabin or Arden Street Grinch season, oh Grinch nor final. Yeah,
North season will truly be ruined. When Sunday one forty
pm start time at Marvel Stadium is it one forty Yeah,
it's a bizarre time forty very quickly fact check that
(42:13):
one forty pm at Marble stadium's doing this?
Speaker 3 (42:16):
I'm not sure there. David's a Geelong and Port Adelaide.
That's this is three fifteen, isn't it. Yes, it is
for the Paul Cooley Otis Cuff.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
I don't know who that is, but it's great.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Now played for Port Adelaide for one season in two thousand,
had three years away, then came back to.
Speaker 5 (42:30):
Geelong for look up, do you look these up?
Speaker 3 (42:32):
I've got a little formula.
Speaker 5 (42:34):
Yeah, but it's Google the formula you google. I've played
for I've got a form This is like Max's run
home and this is like Max's tipping formula. Yeah, I've
got a form because Max has got a formula for
his tips, does it? He has got like a spreadsheet.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
He uses takes it far too seriously.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
I'm aware he's come well aware.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
Speaking of you boys are doing quite well in the tipping.
I think we're all around the same mark.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Yes, it's been I've had I've had my career best year.
Speaker 5 (42:56):
I've had an up and down year. But it's been
in Ben Coon. Ben Common came from nowhere, didn't he
He did?
Speaker 4 (43:03):
And then as well near the bottom he's stagnated.
Speaker 5 (43:05):
The last one, is he?
Speaker 4 (43:06):
I believe so. I think they're both equal at the moment.
It'd be a fascinating run home. We should do a
run home for we should do tips.
Speaker 5 (43:13):
And two very different individuals too, extremely too extraordinarily different individuals.
One would just go with his gat and just go
over that, and the other one would just within an
inch of its life dissect the game.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
I think the Cats could dissect put Adelaide very good
on Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 5 (43:29):
Cats.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
Sorry, I just have to ask Jeremy Cameron. One hundred
goals before ending of the way season, So.
Speaker 5 (43:34):
Who that on sixty nine? They've got a good run home,
They've got more Essendon's.
Speaker 4 (43:39):
Part of it. They've got part of it at Essendon. Yep.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
So all right, let's say kicks five against Port and
he kicks seven Againstdon's twelve twelve eighty one, then he
has the Swans away could be a give him to
two and then fill your boots against Richmond that you mhba,
I know the mcg in round twenty four. I reckon
he could. He could potentially get to ninety okay, yeah,
(44:06):
and then finals and then finals eat Yeah.
Speaker 5 (44:08):
So you think ninety.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
I think you can get to ninety by the end
of the home and away season.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
Yeah, grand. Just imagine if John made the Grand and imagine.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
He had to go on the Grand Final, the security that.
Speaker 5 (44:19):
Everyone runs on, don't thay you're running on?
Speaker 4 (44:22):
Yeah, I think as king you said on Saturday night,
corporate's running onto the ground in the.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
Suits got there there. Actually, the Grand Final would probably
be a good best case because they just won't be
that many people running on because they won't really it
could be starting corporates don't really Yeah, up there in
the Ivory.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
Towers anyway, Sorry, Cats win, Freemantle and Carlton finished the
round the Josh de Luca A five ten pm. Yeah, okay,
so that's why it's one forty. Yes, I think there's
a few Perth based games that are starting at five
ten in the run home here just quirky.
Speaker 4 (44:50):
Yeah, yellow Ball.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Three ten pm there, Yeah, it would be Yeah, I
think the red Ball cut off is two thirty.
Speaker 4 (44:59):
I think so. I don't think you've ever seen something
start at three pm. Maybe round one before daylight savings
kicks in March.
Speaker 5 (45:06):
That saving no plural. No, it's not the appeal board.
There's no ess at the end of it.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
Really.
Speaker 5 (45:12):
Even the AFL's official social media account says the appeals
and it really upsets me anyway, No one.
Speaker 4 (45:19):
Cares you are the appeal board.
Speaker 5 (45:21):
No, that's not what I'm saying the Fremantle.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
Fremantle forty five minutes. David. You'll take that, won't you.
That's pretty good reasoning.
Speaker 5 (45:28):
Hey, that's the tribuna. Wouldn't even be what half done
at this point, Ye, literally done.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
Adrian Anderson would just be wrapping up his first.
Speaker 5 (45:38):
First of his eight thousand reasons yes, and then lose
the case anyway.
Speaker 4 (45:41):
Three deliberations worth of a podcast.
Speaker 5 (45:44):
Yes, all the best.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
Great to have you with us.
Speaker 5 (45:46):
That's good hopefully, sorry for I'm not Max, but not right.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
And that was very very sharp. Great as per. Keep
looking back to Foxfooty dot com dot see you in
six months.
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