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August 20, 2025 29 mins

This condensed episode features one of our most popular conversations of all time—distilled down to just the essentials. Jon shares how coaching with Nathanael Chawkin opened his eyes to simple questions that work like "meditation on the go"—a practice you can use anytime to shift perspective, see blind spots, and calm heated moments in marriage, parenting, and leadership.

You'll hear:

  • Why most suffering comes from the story you're telling yourself, not the situation
  • A four-question checklist you can run in real time to get clarity

  • How to spot blind spots and projections before they blow up relationships

  • A quick test to know whose business you're really in—and how to step back into your lane

Nathanael is a seasoned leadership coach who helps CEOs and teams approach tough conversations with heart, building trust, alignment, and high performance. With a background in martial arts and mindfulness, his practice-based approach gives leaders practical tools they can apply in real time—at work and at home.

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