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October 14, 2025 46 mins

Parmy Olson is a technology columnist at Bloomberg and the author of Supremacy, which won the 2024 Financial Times Business Book of the Year. She joins the podcast to discuss the transformation of AI companies from research labs to product businesses. We explore how funding pressures have changed company missions, the role of personalities versus innovation, the challenges faced by safety teams, and power consolidation in the industry.

LINKS:
- Parmy Olson on X (Twitter): https://x.com/parmy
- Parmy Olson’s Bloomberg columns: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/authors/AVYbUyZve-8/parmy-olson
- Supremacy (book): https://www.panmacmillan.com/authors/parmy-olson/supremacy/9781035038244

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CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Episode Preview
(01:18) Introducing Parmy Olson
(02:37) Personalities Driving AI
(06:45) From Research to Products
(12:45) Has the Mission Changed?
(19:43) The Role of Regulators
(21:44) Skepticism of AI Utopia
(28:00) The Human Cost
(33:48) Embracing Controversy
(40:51) The Role of Journalism
(41:40) Big Tech's Influence

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