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September 6, 2020 53 mins

The San Lorenzo Valley in Santa Cruz County has a partial Do Not Drink / Do Not Boil order in affect: is that order appropriate, what causes Wildfire water contamination, and what are good actions we as a community can take?

Our guest is Andrew J Whelton, Associate Professor of Civil Engineering and Environmental and Ecological Engineering at Purdue University.

Professor Whelton has studied two other Wildfires in California with water contamination and has some thoughts on our situation for the #CZULightningComplex

  • Topics by Time

    13:49 Water Utility vs State Responsibility
    22:28 Can you smell VOCs
    24:07 Danger Long Term vs Acute
    25:11 Stuck in the Pipes?
    26:28 SVOCs
    27:18 Can we just flush the system?
    29:47 If you lived here…
    31:00 Activate Mutual Aid
    31:47 Testing Issues – UCSC help?
    34:13 When would you be less concerned
    36:49 What changes should we make?
    39:15 California level issue?
    43:20 Take Aways
    44:24 Home Water Treatment

  • Wildfire caused widespread drinking water distribution network contamination - Proctor - 2020 - AWWA Water Science - Wiley Online Library
  • San Lorenzo Valley Water District
  • Fire Response, How You Can Help – Community Foundation Santa Cruz County
  • Listener Miles Z made some notes while listening - here they are:

    In case of doubt, consult the interview, as I am not an expert. The notes are about in the same order as the interview. =miles=

    Contamination and Testing/Monitoring

    The state (CA) only requires the water district to test at the source of the water, i.e. where they start pumping it into the distribution system. The rest (downstream testing) is up to the water district.

    Contamination can come from multiple sources, including backflow when the system becomes depressurized and air contaminated with smoke leaks into the pipes. It can also result from homes that were equipped with plastic pipes that burned. As well as the pipes we know about that burned, i.e. the 5 miles of HDPE pipe through the forest.

    The monitoring tests that the water district routinely runs downstream are limited to only particular VOC’s (Volatile Organic Compounds) and are targeted at only those that might be produced by adding chlorine to the system. These less stringent tests are for THM’s (trihalomethanes) which are a form of VOC.

    These tests are not adequate to certify the safety of water possibly contaminated from a fire (as described above).

    In the Paradise fire, the State refused to take ultimate responsibility for certifying that the water is safe, saying it was up to the local district to do so. (but there are ways the district can reach out for qualified help, discussed below) It is unclear whether or not SLVWD realizes this yet.

    Additionally, he said “there is nuance” regarding these DND/DNB orders, which I think means that experts disagree on what exactly they mean. (ndlr: good luck with that!)

    “You have to test fast.” The 7-day turnaround and only 40 samples are woefully inadequate. They should be getting results within a day by utilizing more labs. Apparently the number of laboratories used is a key bottleneck.

    VOC’s and SVOC’s

    Benzene can come from burning brush or trees. This VOC (and others) prefer to be airborne, so washing vegetables or taking a shower could release them. Quantities that are toxic may be odor

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