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Haley explains the three key pillars of reimbursement: coding, coverage, and payment. She delves into the complexities of CPT codes and the significant difference between a temporary Category 3 code and the gold-standard Category 1. The discussion also covers the immense challenges medical device companies face, including the lengthy timeline—sometimes years—to secure payer coverage, which can be a make-or-break factor for startups. The conversation wraps up with a look at how artificial intelligence is beginning to streamline the cumbersome, manual process of patient access and appeals.
"A lot of times patients are not going to be able to pay out of pocket for expensive medical treatments, and a lot of times providers are not going to be able to write off those treatments on their side. So somebody needs to pay for this. And that's usually the health insurance companies..." — Haley King
"I think that for this sort of a use case [AI], you're always going to want some human in the loop... AI has the potential to be super, super powerful in this space, but I think you're always going to want to have human experts involved." — Haley King
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