The Perfect Swing Is The One You Trust with Dr. Glen Albaugh (RIP)

This is the second of six episodes featuring our conversations with Dr. Glen Albaugh, author of “Winning the Battle Within” who passed away in Feb 2023 at the age of 91. In this episode from November 2011, Glen discusses the best ways to utilize your practice & warm up. Takeaways include "contingency practice", "Conservative strategy; Aggressive swing". During your practice, focus on: 1. Technique, 2. Practice Like you Play, 3. Trust your swing.
Glen was a beloved professor and iconic figure at the University of the Pacific, visionary sports psychologist, and a beloved guest on Golf Smarter. He was also the head coach for the University golf team for more than two decades. Two of his closest friendships were with two Super Bowl winning NFL Coaches, Pete Carroll and Bill Walsh.
UoP Men’s Golf Program donations https://www.joinpaf.org/giving/ First Tee of San Joaquin https://firstteesanjoaquin.org/get-involved/(P.O. Box 77919 Stockton, CA 95267.) “RENOWNED SPORTS PSYCHOLOGIST, PROFESSOR AND GOLF COACH GLEN ALBAUGH WAS LIFE-LONG MENTOR” https://pacifictigers.com/news/2023/2/21/general-renowned-sports-psychologist-professor-and-golf-coach-glen-albaugh-was-life-long-mentor.aspx WINNING THE BATTLE WITHIN (book#1) https://www.amazon.com/Winning-Battle-Within-Perfect-Swing/dp/0984417141/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=cv6nV&content-id=amzn1.sym.ed85217c-14c9-4aa0-b248-e47393e2ce12&pf_rd_p=ed85217c-14c9-4aa0-b248-e47393e2ce12&pf_rd_r=143-6411918-4597021&pd_rd_wg=MHvFS&pd_rd_r=408c30be-5b6c-4668-b601-c66fe051f5e9&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk THE CLUTCH GOLFER FORMULA (book#2) https://www.amazon.com/CLUTCH-GOLFER-FORMULA-Exactly-Precisely-ebook/dp/B082953C85/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=cv6nV&content-id=amzn1.sym.ed85217c-14c9-4aa0-b248-e47393e2ce12&pf_rd_p=ed85217c-14c9-4aa0-b248-e47393e2ce12&pf_rd_r=143-6411918-4597021&pd_rd_wg=MHvFS&pd_rd_r=408c30be-5b6c-4668-b601-c66fe051f5e9&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk

Episode Transcript

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Hopefully by now. Golf Smarter andGolf Smarter Mulligan's are your go to podcasts
for becoming a better smarter golfer.Unlike other golf podcasts, we put a
lot of energy on improving our mentalgame, which can eliminate more strokes off
your game than just working on swingmechanics. Think about all your time on

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the chorus when you were confronted withdoubt or lack of trust. That's why
we're going deep into a series ofconversations with another hero of golf instruction who
appeared on Golf Smarter six times,but unfortunately passed away early twenty twenty three
at the age of ninety one,Doctor Glenn Alba. Doctor Alba was a

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pioneering sports psychologist, an author oftwo books, Winning the Battle Within and
The Clutch Golfer Formula that we coveredextensively on the podcast. He was also
a professor and the golf coach atthe University of Pacific for nearly three decades,
guiding the Tigers to six NC twoA tournament and producing nine All Americans

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among his accolades. Glenn was inductedinto the Golf Writers Hall of Fame in
twenty thirteen. Donations in memory ofdoctor Albaugh can be made to the University
of Pacific Men's Golf Program or theFirst He of San Joaquin Coaching Program,
and I'll share the links to bothbooks, an article and where to make
a donation in doctor Alba's memory intoday's show notes. In our second visit

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with Glenn on Golf Smarter Mulligans,we go back to Golf Smarter number three
hundred nine, published on November twentynine, twenty eleven. Welcome to Golf
Smarter Mulligans, your second chance togain insight and advice from the best instructors
featured on the Golf Smarter podcast.Great Golf Instruction never gets old. Our

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interview library features hundreds of hours ofgame improvement conversations like this that are no
longer available in any podcast app.When we develop a strategy, you've got
to pick a strategy that fits yourgame, fits a situation, and when
you can totally commit to So wehaven't had a cutshot in about a month,
Please don't try it out here orgo back to that lob shot.

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And so if you don't have alob shot and you have a tight line,
just get it on a green.You might have a thirty footer,
but it's a lot better than tryingto do something you don't allow to do
and they say you're in the trees, and instead of attempting a miracle shot,
just punch it out on the fairway. In other words, do something
you can do. And one ofmy players I work with for a long
time, Kirk Triplett, says conservativestrategy and aggressive swim. Only do what

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you're prepared to do and prepare yourselfto do as many things as you can.
With another interview from the archives ofGolf Smarter, here's your host,
Fred Green. Welcome back to GolfSmarter. Glenn. Hi, Fred,
it's great to have you. It'sbeen a long time. You were on
episode number forty one the first time, so it's been over two hundred episode

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two hundred weeks. It's the firsttime we spoke. So this number three
hundred and one, I know we'rewe're closer to three hundreds of four or
five. Well, let's find outwhat what is what has progressed during all
of that time, you know,with winning the Battle of then but so

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that's why we're here, right andand the when you first joined us and
I definitely want to bring this upagain. You came out with a book
that I just was fascinated with andreally enjoyed winning the battle within. The
perfect swing is the one you trust. I mean, if you didn't write
another word after that, if everygolfer understood that concept, the perfect swing

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is the one you trust, theywould just improve their game dramatically, wouldn't
they. Well, I think so, yes, I certainly do believe that.
I think it's like one of thethings that we'll talk about today,
as the perfect swing as the oneyou trust, means that you're able to
enter into this arena of automatic play, you know, for the game is

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an I'm thinking game, and sothe play automatically means that we have to
pass this this thinking brain and getinto the part of our brain that really
plays automatically. And let's let's diginto that just a bit deeper. Please
explain that playing automatically? Well,okay, I will. If we we

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look at our brain and then thefront part of the brain. We have
this thinking cortex, you know,the thinking brain, and it can only
do one thing at a time,and it's the newest part of our brain.
It hasn't gone through the evolution oftime and the other parts of our
brain. And this is very rudimentary. If a physiological psychologist who would listen
to us now, they would probablyturn their head and say, what is

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this. But it's part of ourbrain that where we have our mortal memory,
where all our skills are sitting.And then we also have a part
of the brain that we call theautomatic part. It's probably down on the
cerebellum and the brain cortex. Andwhen we're playing our best golf, we
move over to that part of thebrain so that we're not thinking about how

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to swing, but we're all we'reseeing and feeling and lying our intuition and
imagine nation, you know, tocome to ford so that we can see
shots, feel swings, and matchwhat we see and then trust what we
see and feel. And it's partof the brain for head, that works
one thousand times faster than the thinkingbrain, which can only do one thing

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at a time. And so arethe way that we practice and the way
we work with our teachers and etc. What we want to do is eventually
move into that move move into thatpart of the brain when we're playing,
so we can play, you know, without thinking for example, So I
might be walking down the fairway andI have a of a shot that's one

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hundred and sixty five yards and dependingon the right, and for me these
days, that's a seven wood,and so I calculate, you know,
the distance depends on the right.Got some wind going a little bit left
and right, I have a reallynice line as a seven wood, and
I'm going to cut it in therebecause I really like to get those cut

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shots. And immediately I move outof my thinking brain over into my mortal
cortex, a part of the brainthat people call it muscle memory, but
it's really not a muscles don't rememberanything. We just have that those skills
sitting in that part of the brain. So I can go over there and
I can I can see the shot, and I can really feel the shot,

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and then I move down into mypart of the brain. It just
does it. And so that partof the brain, as I said,
you know, it works a thousandtimes faster. And we want to get
into that part of the brain asall and we can. How do we
get that? It seems so simpleto be able to do that when you're
on the driving range, and yetso complicated when we're on the golf course.

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Well, yes, one of theone of the most important things we
can want to do is make thewalk from the practice tea to the first
tea productive. And that means thenthat the way that we practice fred is
very important in of course, makingthat walk to the practice team are productive.
And these days is our culture,just our golf culture just parades all

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kinds of information, not on yourabout podcasts, but there's certainly because you're
take a different theme, but golfChannel, golf digest the stream of cash
for golf professionals to teach us swings. And when we teach somebody something,
we give information. And we stillare still stuck in that in that thinking

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part of the brain that can onlyreally do one thing at a time.
So next time you practice, listeners, why don't you do this? Why
don't you change targets on every shot? Why don't you use your full free
shot with team? Why don't youchange clubs in each shot? If you're
sophisticated, you can change the shapeof the shot. If not, you

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can at least change the targets.Why don't hit your wedges at a different
distance in a different direction on eachshot? And then you're preparing. Of
course, we call a simulated practicein preparing for one course play. It
does make sense, doesn't it.We might miss some shots on the range,
yeah, because we call it norepeat practice. You don't get to

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repeat the shot because much like ofcourse when we play, So we practice
this way, you simulated. Theywere giving yourself a better chance, you
know, to play more productively andmore efficiently. We've walked to the first
tea. I get the sense thatyou're suggesting that I could be far more

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productive in my practice session with onesmall bucket of thirty balls than I can
with four buckets and coming out walkingout with one hundred and twenty to two
hundred balls, which I've seen peopledo. They'll just come out with multiple
buckets, pile on the balls andpound away. Well, yeah, and
we'd like to use those payomate drivers, you know, and get get a

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white driver and then you can gettwenty more yards and so we pound away
at those. But if we'll goto a PGA Tour event and watch the
player's practice and you'll see much morecreativity. Now, these people are really
good, of course, and Idon't expect you that people are listening to
this or you fred to be ableto hit shots, you know, like

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Charlie Wee can hit. But Iknow this, we can practice in the
same in a similar way that hedoes. So we've you know, preparing
ourselves for practice. Now there's reallythree ways of practice. The one is
the one that people typically do.So you get one seven iron after another,
you know, working on some techniqueand this swing, and what are
they doing. You're getting ready forthe seven iron tournament. And I'm not

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sure when that is, but possiblyit's scheduled next week sometime. And unfortunately
this is the way most people practice, and it hasn't honored place. If
we're going to learn a new skilland you're working with your teacher, you
really do have to repeat one swingafter another, and so you can practice
this new technique. But the othergame, the other way to practice,

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of course, is the practice simulatea practice, which I've already described.
Yeah, then there's another way topractice, you know, on the cover
of our book, and the themein the book is the practice swing is
the one to trust. We canpractice trust in our swings as well.
They're so they're really we really threeways of practice. One practice your technique,
two practice luck you play in threepracticing, you know, using and

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learning to trust the swing that youhave. I just got. I mean,
it's becoming clear to me and whatyou're saying. And so if I'm
going to be on the practice teawith my seven iron and I insist on
hitting ball after ball after ball withthat seven iron, that I, if

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I'm going to do it that way, I should have a teacher with me,
because I really can't teach myself anything. Or if I'm going to hit
ball after ball after ball with thatsame club, that I should change the
target with every and not just myseven irons about one hundred and forty five
yards. So I shouldn't just tryto hit one hundred and forty five yards

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every single time, but I shouldtry to hit one ninety yards, or
I should try to hit one lowand let it bounce it. I mean,
just varying that shot with that clubwould probably be we're productive than just
trying to hit the perfect shot everytime. Yeah, you've you've described use

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some variations with your seventh earned.We call it hitting all speech shots,
hitting shaping shots with your change targeteach time. And then we can also
throw and we call it our innergame practices that we can hit shots with
your eyes closed. Take your seveniron and hit your seven iron one hundred

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and forty five yards, and thenlet's take our six n five iron,
four iron, three iron, threewood driver. Let's hit them all one
hundred and forty five yards, youknow, practicing with them and temple of
your swing. It's a great wayanother way to practice. Yes, there's
a variety of things that we cando. You know, own a practice

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tea that we've all first you know, it's a it's a game for the
first shot, and a first shotpractice. What you described is one of
the things we can do, andwhat I added to that is something else
we can do too. So wecan move ourselves more and more to what
we call the automatic play. We'replaying without thinking, and so that we

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can play with when we say aplane without thinking, we're saying playing,
you know, getting access to thepart of our brain that has that feels
the rhythm, feels the tempo,sees the shots. Here's the sound here
and the touch and what it feelslike, you know, when the when

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the club it's a blong, goesthrough the grass. It's playing in our
imagination and m are there's strategies orthat you that you have for us to
get to that point. The waysthat we can develop up that. Yeah,
in the in the last part ofthe book and in our second edition,

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we have a number of rules thatpeople can use, you know,
to practice you know, trust inyour swing and practice you know, simulation,
you know of simulation of competition situations. And I would certainly encourage people,
you know, to to look atthat, you know, look in
the book and look at those practiceprinciples, practice descriptions of ways in which

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you can practice that you can buildyou know, this trust or your swing
to be able to you know,to swing without thinking. Yes, there's
certain ways you can practice to accomplishthat. I'm kind of dumbfounded here because
I just suggested possibly hitting a seveniron different distances. But I even love,

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I love even more the idea oftaking each club and trying to hit
it the same going after the samedistance. And then I think about the
times that I'm out there and Isee people who they'll they only have a
couple of swings before their round,and the first thing they'll do is pull
out their driver. The first coupleof swings, they'll just pull out their
driver and smack it as hard asthey can. But you suggested starting with

(15:18):
the wedges first and easing up toit. Well, you know, if
people do different things. Most peoplestart with their wedges and use up.
I surely have there is that taketheir driver first and get rhythm with the
driver, and they're moving on down. The main thing is when we're practices
in this way, is that thatwe might draft to change that. For

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example, one of the neat thingsto do is say you're going to pull
it tomorrow. So you get onthe golf course, and how should I
warm up for this? Well,maybe I'll play the first four holes on
range, hit my tea shot.Since I'm familiar with the course, I
know what my next shot will be. And if I get the ball on
the green and then move to thenext tea and if I missed the shot,

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then I hit to hit a chipshot. So playing, you know,
play a course on a range isuh is one of the ways to
prepare prepare ourselves for a plane,So it's another way to practice as well.
Or I really like, um,take your wedges out and I'll have
your three wedges out of four orwhatever you have and I'm going to hit

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a ball in a different direction anda different distance on every single shot,
and every shot will be a partswing, because you know, we have
a lot of whit shots, andpracticing the wedges in this way gives us
more distance control, and it alsocauses us to really use our eyes and

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our visual perceptions and then allowing theswing to much this distance that we see.
It's amazing how much progress you canmake with your wedges and distance control
if you practice in this way.Do you have any assigned reading that you
can give us that maybe we canlisten to on an audiobook. Well,

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in a book that I've become veryfascinated with, it's called Talent is Overrated?
And what you know you told mehere previously Fred, if talent over
rated colan is something about what eliteathletes do. What is the rest of
that title? Yeah, just talentis overrated? What really separates world class

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performers from everybody else? By JeffColvin. Yeah, it's a it's a
great, great read for all ofus, the matter what performance you're in.
And the summary I would say isthis talent is really not overrated,
but practice is underrated. If there'sa common denominator people who steadily improve.

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I don't care what it is theydo. We're talking about golf. Here
is a practice and they find outfirst we call a smart practice. So
that's a nice play on wards,isn't it today? Smart practice? First?
Thank you very good plug. Andthen and then you can increase the

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intensity and duration. And if it'sit's totally How do I find out how
smart? You know what a smartpractice? Well, you can read winning
the battle, then you can certainlyfind out and with But the most important
thing there about practice is what talentis overrated in etc? It's really not.

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And they talk an awful lot andhear about various groups of people across
many domains. Sport included that findingout the ways of ways and wish to
practice. And there's this great debatethis goes on, you know, across
across the internet these days, torelative to what is it you know?

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Is it talent or is it practice? And I am suggesting that it's both.
But I'm heavily leaned towards practicing inthe right way so you can steadily
improve. And I know that youwill learn skills quicker and more efficiently.
I know your deal will play moreconsistently if you really find out the way

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right way is to practice. Well, that's a great recommendation. The unabridged
version of talent is overrated. Whatreally separates world class performers from everybody else
is available on audible dot com.Before we move on, I want to
share, since we're talking about authors, you have a phenomenal golf book story

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because of where you grew up inwhom you grew up with. Please share
that with everybody. Well. GOLFMIKingdom, most popular golf book in history,
right, yeah, yeah, Golfnineteen seventy three. Golf M Kingdom.
Michael Murphy a great friend. Grewup together in Salinas. I didn't

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see him for fifteen years. Readthe book now. I was teaching sports
psychology at the University of the Civicand Golf m the Kingdom became became the
bible and the cutting edge for agreat, you know, wonderful group of
applying sports psychologists. He was thefirst person that suggested to us is another

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way the process came so we canhave more joyment and to shoot lower scores.
And then Michael, of course uhis a co founder of the vessel
and Institute on the coast, andI spent many many times there before it
was really Felon Institute. And ofcourse I have you know in the recent

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years as well. But golf mthe Kingdom is just really at the cutting
edge of an appling course psychology.And I would say, mostly being sports
technologist in the country, have atattered and well documented a copy of that
in the bookshelf. I think everybodyhas a well read version of golf in

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the Kingdom if they ever played golf, and if they haven't get started.
You're right. It really is kindof like the Bible. But I'm fascinated.
Who was Michael Murphy before he wasMichael Murphy, you know, before
he came famous with this book.What was he? What kind of kid
was he growing up? Well,he was president of the Stubodies his high
school. Oh really, he playeda lead in the senior play. He

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was a year a year out ofme in school. He's you know,
from a family was closely associated withJohn Steinbeck, you know, the great
writer. His father and John Steinbeckwere buddies. I mean, that's maybe
part of his his writing. Hethink the book Beast of Eden, written

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by John Steinback was Knaan Babel.The two brothers was Michael Murphy and Dennis
Murphy. Michael was a good guyacross all those domains. Then he disappeared
for about ten years as he wasstudying chasing the philosophy of life in India

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and everywhere, which is all chronicledin the book Golf in the Kingdom.
And he just a maze amazing contributionto society. Here's another little interesting one.
Six years ago he called me andhe said, you and me and

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Bill Walsh was a great friend ofmine and another friend of mine here,
Larry Meredith. We're going to meetnext week and we're going to plan in
the next twenty five years of life. And we're all seventy at the time.
So we did have that meeting.Now was about a year before Bill
died. It was kind of interesting, and I think he still moving ahead

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and ford in the head as hepeaked finding new ways to do all things
and finding new ways to do newthings. Oh, that's so special,
and it must have been very hardfor all of you and Bill passed.
It was hard. Just as aBay Area resident sports fan, it was
very hard for me. But Ican imagine losing a friend like that.

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He was obviously quite a guy,and I had quite a coach, and
we were friends for a long time, and he had the uncannon ability,
you know, moving from Michael toBill, both icons and tremendous contribution to
their professions and to living. Butwhen I was with I knew as his

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best friend, and I also knewthat he had other best friends. Yeah,
that's the kind of guy work.Yeah, I mean, it's it's
rare when anybody gets to, uh, come in contact with someone who has
such a significant impact on anything,let alone two people who are friends that

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had significant impact, one on footballand it changed the face of how football
was ever played and then golf,how golf was approached. For you to
have both of those people in yourlife, that's pretty remarkable. That's it's
just so great to talk to you. It's like feeling like I've brushed up
against that at all. Well,it's the thing that we learned and I

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have it quite quite often in uhin my book, is the thing that
we learned from Bill Walsh. We'vegot any practice and one of those simple
things that he would say not simple, you call it contingency practice, and
UH for players that work with.Now, are you know, going into
qualifying school or you know, reallyreally diligently committed to improving, is that

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we're going into a competition. Ifyou're ever surprised that Bill would say,
you're not prepared. So you haveto be ready for every possible thing.
Do you know how to get theball out of a dvot? Are you
prepared for feeling different emotionally when youget into this pressure competition? So Bill
said that you must be ready foreverything, and certain golfers need to be

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too. The things that we talkedabout Fred earlier today about practice or getting
is prepared for anything that might occurwhen we're out on the golf course.
I don't care if you're you know, a sixteen point seven in decks or
playing in Las Vegas this week.That we must must be prepared for things
that happen. And so the mannerin which we practice helps us in that

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preparation, contingency practice. And hewas referring to football at the time when
he talked about it, wasn't it. Yeah, you have to be ready
for it. If there's fourth segmentsto go in the game, do you
have a play? Do you havea play? That you practiced. Yeah,
and so on golf. Okay,you're shortsighted yourself and you've got a

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lob it. Do you have alobshot? No? I don't. Well
maybe that's something I need to practicethen, so that when I'm in this
situation, I'll be able to popit over the bunker. You know.
Of course another thing there too.If you don't have a lobshot, please
don't try it. Well, Iremember, I don't remember who it was

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that said it, but I wasdoing an interview for Golf Smarter where somebody
commented, this was a couple ofyears ago, before all the sours,
all the problems happened. But hesaid that Tiger Woods had no ego,
and I was kind of shocked.I didn't understand what he meant. He
said, because Tiger Woods will nevertake a shot in competition that he hasn't

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practiced a thousand times. I don'tknow if the hay thing do it his
ego? Right? We had noego on the golf course, is what
he meant to say. Yeah,okay, I understand that. What we
say is this that you know,when we're in your preshot routine, which
is a subject for our next podcastis that when we develop a strategy you're

(27:21):
going to be you must you mustpick a strategy that fits your game,
fits this situation, and when youcan totally commit to So, Fred,
if you haven't had a cutshot inabout a month, please don't try it
out here or go back to thatlob shot, you know. And so
if you don't have a lob shotand you have a tight line, just
get it on a green hit somethingand you might have a thirty footer,

(27:45):
but it's a lot better than tryingtrying to do something you don't know how
to do and they say you're inthe trees, and instead of attempting a
miracle shot, just punch it outin the fairway. In other words,
do something you can do. Andone of my players I work with for
a long time, Kirk Triplett,says, conservative strategy and aggressive swing,

(28:08):
and so yes, only do whatyou're prepared to do. Yes, and
prepare yourself to do as many thingsas you can. How's that for an
anomaly? Oh, I'm writing itdown because that's here we go back with
one another. Another one of mybumper stickers, Conservative strategy, aggressive swing.

(28:29):
Yeah, I love it. Ilove it. And when you talk
about contingency practice. When my youngerson was wrestling in high school, his
coach emphasized that they should never celebrateafter a victory, and he was adamant
about this, and he always said, act I act like you've been there

(28:52):
before, you know, because ifyou celebrate, it's like you're pretending like,
oh, it's my first time ever. And that's why it's so surprising
to see nf FELL players celebrate whenthey get in the end zone and being
penalized for it. But if youact like you've been there before, you're
not exposing yourself to the competition.But also you're not getting out of your
game where you you should be anyway. Yeah, it's an instanting part of

(29:15):
the culture that is I don't findpleasing, you know, But they players
seem to want to celebrate. Theymake a sack and their teams behind twenty
eight to nothing and they're francing aroundor first stealing second base with an eight
run lead. Don't do that.That's a good one too. Yeah.

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In the last few minutes that wehave, i'd love for you one of
them. You sent me a numberof writings before to prepare for this conversation
today and if you could please giveme a couple minutes about the writer and
the golfer, just this line alone. Your best golf is played in a
mat nitive paragraphs. Yeah, youknow, can you flush that out for

(30:04):
me a little bit? Well?I will. When I wrote that piece,
actually I had written it for ScottMcKern and I was there was a
really good friend of mine as areally good writer, and it was really
a true story. He had writtenthis piece and sent it in and it

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was turned down, and he knewit was really good, and he knew
it was an acclibum piece and hejust had to tweak it and he had
to get back and go to hismentors and his editors and make some small
changes. But I knew that he'sgoing to resubmit it and we were going
to get a chance to read it. And sometimes in golf, you know

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it's not quite working. You know, it's not quite working, and we're
working really hard on it. We'reworking with our teachers and we're working on
our technique. We were working inour practice, and it's not quite not
quite there. Maybe it takes alittle bit of tweaking. And then when
it gets to the point that thecreative writers tell me that they don't write

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sentences. They write paragraphs in theright pages and it comes out of a
big burst. And so the sameis for golfers. They don't plan in
sentences. They don't plan that thinkingbrain we talked talked about at the top
of the show. But they planthat part of the brain that moves in
paragraphs and moves and imagination and intuitionand creativity. And then when you can

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finally get there, you know,in playing paragraphs, you're certainly playing in
this place where you can really trust, you trust the swing you have.
Takes a little time sometimes you getthere, but you've got to get there.
And when you get there, it'sjust it's a beautiful piece that you've
written, and it's a beautiful piecethat you play. That's beautiful in itself.

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That was great. Thank you.The book is called Winning the Battle
Within by doctor Glenn Alba. Theperfect swing is the one you trust.
Glenn. I really appreciate you comingback. I hope you're shooting your age
and I wish you strength and goodhealth for years and years to come.
Thank you. I am shooting myage. So that's good, that's great.

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Thank you for Fred