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Speaker 1 (00:01):
We have before us the opportunity to forge for ourselves
and for future generations, a new world.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Order, new world order, new world order.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
This is a moment to cease. The kaleidoscope has been shaken.
The pieces are in flux. Soon they will settle again.
Before they do, let us reorder this world around.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Us, a new world order, a world where the.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
United Nations is poised to fulfill the historic vision of
its founders.

Speaker 5 (00:27):
Nevertheless, United stated in a key position to shape is
so that the problem of the put rensidentity will be
the invergence of a new international order the.

Speaker 6 (00:39):
First decade of the twenty first century.

Speaker 7 (00:42):
But out of what is will be feel the greatest
restructuring of the global economies, greatest restructuring of the global economy,
greatest restructuring of the global economy.

Speaker 6 (00:52):
A new world order was created.

Speaker 8 (00:56):
Documenting the crisis of our Rebeltic.

Speaker 9 (00:58):
The very word secrecy is repugnant in a free and
open society, and we are as a people inherently and
historically opposed to secret societies, the secret oaths and a secret.

Speaker 10 (01:12):
Proceedings waging war on the new world order.

Speaker 11 (01:15):
The councils of government.

Speaker 12 (01:17):
We must guard again the acquisition of unwanted influence, whether
it sought or unsought by the military industrial conflict.

Speaker 8 (01:27):
This is Governor America, quick, Darren Weeks and Vicky Davis.

Speaker 13 (01:40):
From FEMA Regions five to ten. This is governed America.
I'm during week's Vicky Davis is here as well. It
is the sixteenth of August twenty twenty five. As we
get right back into the show here, Nice to have
you with us and welcome everyone. Well, the establishment media
was all a buzz this week about the Trump Putin's summit,

(02:02):
and here's a little wrap up with that, and Donald
Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin wrapped up they're much
anticipated meeting in Alaska.

Speaker 14 (02:10):
Where the world leaders talked behind closed doors for three
hours on how to end the Russia Ukraine conflict. Trump
and Putin addressed the media for just a few minutes
and didn't take any questions from reporters. Putin spoke first,
saying it was very good to see President Trump and
that he's in good health. He said bilateral relations between
the US and Russia have fallen to the lowest point

(02:30):
since the Cold War and that this meeting was long overdue.
Putin claimed the two came to an agreement to pave
a path to peace in Ukraine. He said, our countries
need to turn the page because there's so much that
we could do to help each other, whether it's in trade,
tech or space exploration. Putin also said that he warned
President Biden of hostilities before Russia entered Ukraine. Here's what

(02:53):
Putin said, according to a White House interpreter.

Speaker 15 (02:56):
I'd like to remind you than in twenty twenty two,
during the life asked contact with the previous administration, I
tried to convince my previous American colleague that it should
not the situation should not be brought to the point
of no return when it would come to hostilities. And

(03:17):
I said it quite directly back then. That is a
big mistake today when President Trump saying that if he
was the president back then, there will be no war,
and I'm quite sure that it would indeed be so,
and I can confirm that.

Speaker 14 (03:32):
Trump then spoke for a few minutes, calling the Median
very productive, but also saying that the two leaders did
not reach an agreement to end the war. Trump said
the two leaders agreed on many points, but others still
need to be worked out. With Ukrainian President Voladimir Selenski.
Trump says he needs to make some very important phone
calls to NATO and Zelenski.

Speaker 16 (03:52):
So, just to put it very quickly, I'm going to
start making a few phone calls and tell him what happened.
But we had extremely productive meeting and many points were
agreed to. There are just a very few that are left.
Some are not that significant. One is probably the most significant.

(04:13):
But we have a very good chance of getting there.
We didn't get there, but we have a very good
chance of getting there.

Speaker 14 (04:18):
The two leaders agreed that they would be speaking again soon,
and Putin said he's hopeful that the next meeting will
take place in Moscow, and for.

Speaker 13 (04:25):
The sake of the world, I hope that we can
end this whole thing. But Hillary Clinton claimed came out
and said that she would nominate Donald Trump for the
Nobel Prize if he was able to stop the war
under certain conditions.

Speaker 17 (04:39):
We are on the precipice of a meeting between President
Trump and President Putin and Alaska. Drying on your experience
as Secretary of State, if you were en route to Alaska,
what would you be looking to get? What does an
acceptable deal look like?

Speaker 18 (04:55):
He is not meeting with a friend.

Speaker 19 (04:56):
He is meeting with an adversary, and an adversary who
wants to see the destruction of the United States and
the Western Alliance. But if he could bring about the
end to this terrible war where Putin is the aggressor
invading a neighbor country trying to change the borders, if

(05:18):
he could end it without putting Ukraine in a position
where it had to concede its territory to the aggressor,
had to in a way validate Putin's vision of greater Russia,
but instead could really stand up to Putin to make
it clear there must be a cease fire, there will
be no exchange of territory, and that over a period

(05:42):
of time, Putin should be actually withdrawing from the territory
he seized in order to demonstrate good faith efforts. Let
us say, not to threaten European security. President Trump were
the architect of that, I'd nominate him for a Nobel
Peace price.

Speaker 13 (05:58):
And you know, this is really rich in the fact
that she is the architect of this war. She and
Victoria Newlan, this is really Hillary Clinton's war. And you
know the terms that she put down there are impossible.
They're not going to happen. They have zero chance. In
other words, if Vladimir Putin pretty much gives up everything

(06:21):
to the Western NATO so called alliance and throws in
the towel and makes this country essentially gives it over
to NATO and the United Nations and the United States,
then hey, you know, she'll nominate Trump for the Nobel Prize.

Speaker 20 (06:39):
There is zero that is that asking too much?

Speaker 13 (06:43):
There is zero chance of that happening. And if it
weren't for the Hillary Clinton State Department and under Obama
putting NATO on the doorstep of Russia, this war would
not be taking place at all. So every bit of
the blood that has been shed, that blood is on

(07:04):
her hands and Victoria Newlan and Obama and all of
the people that are involved there. But I just thought this,
it's really rich that you know, oh, oh, Putin's the
aggressor well, you know what. I'm no fan of Putin,
but I'll tell you right now on this issue, nobody,
no sovereign country wants an adversary on their on their border,

(07:30):
not if they're not if they're sane, unless you're Biden,
of course, and then you invite them all in So, anyway,
I just thought that was interesting. This was a big,
big deal this week, and you know, I I found
it kind of fascinating that the conservative media was all
over that quote from Hillary Clinton and they didn't bother

(07:50):
to point out the obvious that they were the ones
that started this thing in the first place. Yeah, they
just seized upon Oh she said, you nominate Trump for
the Nobel Price. Uh she did. She really didn't, you know, yeah,
she really didn't, because the terms are are ridiculous. So anyway,

(08:13):
I just thought that was interesting. Now turning a corner here,
I know that this is kind of in your wheelhouse, Vicky.
This economic these economic development corporations that are all in
all fifty states, every state has an economic development corporation.

(08:34):
It's my opinion that economic development corporations are money laundering
operations because the purpose of these supposed uh economic building
entities is to provide grants to corporations to have developments,

(08:55):
and they get to choose winners and losers, and it's
always based upon whatever whoever's tight with whoever's in charge
of the government at the given time. Now, one the
reason why I bring this up is because we have
a scandal brewing here in Michigan. There is a woman
by the name of Faye bay Dune who is I guess,

(09:19):
I guess it's pronounced by Dune. They I don't know.
It looks like Baydune. I'm gonna say bay Dune. Faye
bay Dune is under criminal investigation because the State of
Michigan has given her given her organization, the Michigan Economic
Development Corporation, millions of dollars, and apparently, I guess they

(09:41):
can't figure out where the money went. And Governor Gretchen
Whitmer is up to her eyeballs in this whole mess.

Speaker 20 (09:49):
I'm looking at how much money was it?

Speaker 13 (09:52):
Well, fifteen million dollars.

Speaker 20 (09:55):
And they can't figure out where it.

Speaker 13 (09:56):
Went, Apparently, the Detroit News reported back in July and
July eighth. Governor Gretchen Whitmer recommended in February twenty twenty
two that Michigan lawmakers allocate fifteen million dollars for a
grant program aimed at bringing international businesses to the state,

(10:17):
an initiative quietly sought by one of her campaign donors,
Faye by Don Bay Do you.

Speaker 20 (10:24):
Know what that sounds like? That sounds like a reconstitution
of the EB five program.

Speaker 13 (10:34):
Yeah. Yeah, the eb visa.

Speaker 20 (10:37):
Prove employment based visa program where they invited in foreign
investors who put up the money through a private entity
registered with Customs and Immigration to direct investment in a state.

Speaker 13 (11:04):
Yeah. Yeah, half a million dollars or a million dollars
depending upon the area, if the foreign entity is willing
to invest quote unquote in job creation, never mind the
fact that they always bring their own people in to
fill those jobs.

Speaker 20 (11:19):
Well, that was the scam. And as a matter of fact,
that's what I've been working on this last week because
they've been talking about the possibility of prosecution of Obama
and Clinton, more with Clinton than Obama. But in twenty ten,

(11:41):
when I started researching what the hell the communist Chinese
were doing in Meridian, Idaho, which is just outside of Boise,
that's when I found out about the EB five program
and about these private corporations that get the money and

(12:06):
then supposedly invest it in your local area to create
jobs supposedly, but it's an entire scam. And so that's
what got me started researching what was going on over
in the Boise area. Because a delegation of twenty three

(12:29):
Communist Chinese arrived in Meridian, Idaho to look at investment opportunities.

Speaker 13 (12:38):
Right, and it was the same deal with this delegation
that went into Los Angeles. We talked about it on
the show at the time. Nancy Levant was co hosting
with me, and we were just stunned to see delegations
from communist China coming in and surveilling, surveying, I guess

(12:58):
would be the word property in Los Angeles to invest in.
And her question at the time, I think, was were
we sold it? Has America's debt caused us to be
sold to the Chinese? It certainly seemed that way because
about the same time they were turning the Empire State
Building red and yellow the top, you know, the lights

(13:20):
on the top to celebrate sixty years or malice rule.
It was. It was outstanding, outstanding. It's not the word
mind blowing, I guess would be stunning. Yeah. So, yeah,
that's the thing is. And then there were delegations coming
from here to there and vice versa. They were coming

(13:43):
over here. They had the kind of the Sisters City
project going on at the time. Our state, provincial lead
state leaders were going over and visiting with the provinces,
and the provinces were coming and hobnobbing with state leaders here.
So it's like, hey, we're being urged. Isn't it great
to have a delegation coming to Washington, d C? And

(14:06):
having the DC streets aligned with communist Chinese flags?

Speaker 11 (14:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (14:14):
On Constitution Avenue. Geez.

Speaker 20 (14:18):
Well, that's why I was bringing all my research forward
because all the links that I have from twenty ten
were of course stale. And so you know, the idea
of prosecuting Hillary and Obama, that's what they should be

(14:38):
prosecuted for, is for ramping up that EB five visa
program selling American citizenship.

Speaker 13 (14:46):
Yeah. And I'm going to make a prediction here. It's
going to be extremely controversial. That is not going to happen. Yeah,
I know, I know people are going to find it
hard to believe. That's going to be extremely hard to believe.
I know, because everybody's totally expecting Obama's going to go
to prison. I'm going to make this prediction and I'm

(15:07):
going to stand by it. That is not going to happen.
It's it's a pipe dream, forget about it.

Speaker 20 (15:16):
Well, do you remember when the National Governors Association held
a special meeting in Salt Lake City to meet with
their Communist Chinese counterparts to talk about cooperation. You remember that, Yeah, okay, yeah,

(15:38):
that I want to bring all that research forward because
our what the Communist Chinese wanted to invest in, is
our critical infrastructure, transmission lines, pipelines, you know, all of
the things that make our society work. Because there was

(16:02):
a company called Cinemak YEP, which was the Communist Chinese
company that does their building and in the information that
I have, they were building infrastructure all over the world YEP,

(16:23):
and they were calling it the New Silk Road project
in about twenty thirteen. But yeah, they control your critical infrastructure.
They've got you by the short hairs.

Speaker 13 (16:38):
Yeah. And Trump is because the Chinese are very active
in Latin America right now, and Trump is sending troops
down there now, supposedly to deal with the cartel leaders
because it's a new war on terror. Now we have
to deal with the cartel members. And you know, I'm
perfectly fine with having the US troops on our border.

(17:02):
How about we focus though, on our national security and
get our country the ship of state corrected first before
we start worrying about Latin America. I don't know. Maybe
that's just me.

Speaker 20 (17:15):
I'm not sure. We have a country, we are part
of a common market.

Speaker 13 (17:20):
We would be nice if we could get our country back.

Speaker 20 (17:24):
It would be nice. But in order for that to happen,
people have to understand how we lost it. Yeah, and
that video that I sent you on growth of Democracy,
I listen to that several times because the people the

(17:45):
guy that was speaking, Moss Baker, he's a diplomat, and
diplomats developed this way of speaking that basically puts you asleep.

Speaker 13 (17:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (17:57):
They speak, you know, slowly in a monotne and.

Speaker 13 (18:03):
It's like fingernails on a chalkboard, isn't it.

Speaker 20 (18:06):
Well, it's so it puts me to sleep. You know.
I have to work at staying awake because they make
it so damn boring.

Speaker 13 (18:16):
They really do.

Speaker 20 (18:17):
Yeah, and that's intentional, absolutely intentional that they do that.

Speaker 13 (18:22):
Well, I've mastered the habit of putting things on one
and a half one point five and two point zero
speed to try to get through things, because there's just
never enough hours in the day to be able to
watch everything you need to watch and see everything you
need to see. And so I double the speed whenever

(18:42):
I can to try to get through it. You know,
I think as well.

Speaker 20 (18:49):
You know what was so important about that is that
have you ever listened to a con man? You know
what saying is a con but you can't quite put
your finger on what con is.

Speaker 13 (19:06):
Hmm. I try not to listen to conn Well.

Speaker 20 (19:09):
You don't do it intentionally, You just encounter them as
you go through life. But anyway, I realized what the
con was listening to that Moss Baker in the Growth
of Democracy video. What the con was is that they

(19:32):
redefined They basically redefined who the people were. They made
Congress represent the people, but the people were the corporations.
You've heard of corporate.

Speaker 13 (19:48):
Personhood, absolutely, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 20 (19:52):
Well, they redefined the mission of Congress to represent the
people corporations, and democracy is what they gave to the
people who had been displaced as being important in this country.

(20:13):
And so, you know, every time you hear the word democracy,
understand that what they did in nineteen ninety when they
began down this road is to the Congress to say,
we're going to represent the corporate people and the rest
of you real people out there, you're on your own.

Speaker 13 (20:34):
Yeah, it's just another word for socialism.

Speaker 20 (20:38):
Well, I'm not sure of that. It's fascism. It is
pure fascism because they made the corporations responsible for economic development.
And that's why out here in Twin Falls, Idaho, there
were a group of billionaires that were providing funding to

(21:02):
a local group to determine what our needs were for
refugees coming in that we're going to be resettled in
my area. Yeah, and I have a picture of them.
That was Warren Buffett was one of them. Let me

(21:25):
see if I can find this real quick.

Speaker 13 (21:30):
Well, let me just say this. Mikhayle Gorbachev to find
democracy as socialism. He said that that was their term
for it. He says in Peristroika New Thinking for our World,
in our country and the world. In nineteen eighty eight,
he says, I would like to be clearly understood, we
the Soviet people, are for socialism. We are for socialism.

(21:50):
We want more socialism and therefore more democracy. And then
later on they defined again, let's see what is this?
From an Army training manual concerning citizenship in nineteen twenty
eight defined democracy. It says democracy is a government of

(22:11):
the masses authority derived through mass meeting or any other
form of direct expression results.

Speaker 20 (22:18):
Yeah, there you go. Mobiocracy through mass Yeah, mobiocracy.

Speaker 13 (22:25):
Attitude regard to consequences results in demagogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy. Again,
that was an Army training manual concerning citizenship in nineteen
twenty eight. Then there was Mikyle Garbachev again in Peristroika said,

(22:46):
those who hope that we will move away from the
socialist path will be greatly disappointed. Every part of our
program of Perastroika is fully based on the principles of
more socialism and more democracy. So it looks like they
here in the West they can't openly well, up until recently,

(23:08):
I should say, they couldn't openly promote socialism slash communism.
The West is pretty well desensitized to that now, I
think with all these movements going on, these subversives, but
they use the term democracy, and this is why you
have the Democrat Socialists of America.

Speaker 20 (23:30):
Yes, you know, don't you think that was brilliant that
they redefined who the people were. They just displaced we
the people, the real people, and defined the corporations as
the people. And that's who Congress represents. They don't represent us.

Speaker 13 (23:56):
That is true, But I think that that's a lot
of that enables the socialists slash communists to point to
it and say, see there, it's a fascist system. This
is why all needs to come down. So it is
the dialectic. It's the classic pressure from above, pressure from
below type of scenario.

Speaker 20 (24:17):
Yeah, well, you know when I figured that out, when
I figured out what the con was, I thought, my god,
this is brilliant. Because life goes on. We all think
everything is the same as it ever was, except Congress
is not obviously is not working for us. And that's

(24:41):
what you know. That meeting was in nineteen ninety and
that's when, of course George Herbert Walker Bush announced the
New World Order and in that growth of democracy. The

(25:01):
guy speaking was a guy named Robert Mossbocher, which turns
out to be one of Bush's best friends from Texas,
going way way back in history to their oil days. Wow,
and Mosbacher was a member of the Council of the Americas.

(25:24):
Council of the Americas was an organization that David Rockefeller
started in nineteen sixty five to lead private sector business
in economic development activities in Latin America. So that's when

(25:44):
you know they started involving corporations in economic development as
if they were representatives of our government.

Speaker 13 (25:56):
Yeah, and look what a mos Latin America is now.

Speaker 20 (25:58):
News for all the morons out there. Corporations represent themselves.

Speaker 13 (26:04):
Yeah period. Well, they represent their shareholders. It's about shareholder profitability.

Speaker 20 (26:12):
But through the yes, but through the corporate engine.

Speaker 13 (26:16):
Which is why we don't want to have corporations doing
governing because they're not representing you. They're representing private business.
Really billionaires, to be honest with you, right, yeah, you
might have your little retirement plan, but that's set pails
by comparison.

Speaker 20 (26:33):
Okay, I found the image where I had the billionaires
that were.

Speaker 13 (26:39):
Okay, we got not about ten seconds to the break.

Speaker 20 (26:42):
Okay, So well to Bill Marriott, Bob Iger, Jim mmcinnerney,
Julian Castro was a mayor Bloomberg, Michael Nutter was a mayor,
Rupert Murdoch, and Steve Balmer.

Speaker 13 (26:55):
Okay, hang on, we'll be back.

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Speaker 13 (31:21):
Welcome back to the broadcast. This is govern America. The
website for the show is Governamerica dot com. That's Governamerica
dot com. My email address is radio at Governamerica dot com.
And Vicky, you want to give your information out please?

Speaker 20 (31:35):
Yeah, My website is the Technocratic Tyranny dot com. My
older website is Channelingreality dot com. And my email addresses
on both websites.

Speaker 13 (31:49):
You want to finish up with what you're saying there?
Pardon me? Did you want to finish what you were
saying before the break?

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Well?

Speaker 20 (31:56):
Yeah, I just want to say that that video of
the growth of democracy will be put into the show notes,
and I really really encourage everybody to listen to it
very carefully because the guy that's speaking, his name is
Robert moss Baker. He is a absolutely brilliant con man,

(32:24):
and what he is describing is the con with democracy yep.
And you know, basically telling the well, they weren't telling
we the people and anything. Democracy was the propaganda campaign
for saying, you're basically on your own sucker because Congress

(32:48):
represents business. Yep, yep, exactly, And they'll be they'll also
be a link to a video of nuke Ingridge in
there in nineteen ninety five. Vibe also speaking to the
Council of the Americas and he is saying a lot
of the same things. So so you know, between nineteen

(33:13):
ninety nineteen ninety five is when they corporations basically captured
our Congress, not the government. They captured the Congress.

Speaker 13 (33:27):
Yep, exactly, big difference. I started off the show talking
about the Michigan Economic Development Corporation, and every single state
has some equivalent of economic development corporations, and so I
think everyone should probably take a look at what's going
on in their state with regard to their economic development

(33:48):
corporations or whatever the entity might be called in your location.
Here and as I said earlier, here in Michigan, we
have an investigation now underway. Ironically it is Dana Neesso,
the Hideous horrific, terrible attorney general in this state that
goes after every Conservative and doesn't ever prosecute any Democrat

(34:13):
for any crimes that they commit. But yet she's the
one that's actually doing this investigation now. And it's interesting
the timing that she's doing that. Suddenly she's interested in
this because she's interested in running for governor. God help us.
So I think she's trying to look like she's a

(34:34):
little more fair than she has been in the past.
But I don't see anything. I'd be surprised if ultimately
something comes out of this, Although there currently is an
investigation over this fifteen million dollars Michigan lawmakers, Whitmer let
me back the bus up a little bit. Governor Whitmer
recommended in February of twenty twenty two that Michigan lawmakers

(34:57):
allocate fifteen million dollars for a grant program aimed at
bringing international businesses to Michigan, an initiative quietly sought by
one of her campaign donors, Faye bay Done. And that's
the woman that's now under criminal investigation for misusing the
money her nonprofit eventually won from the state. I'm sorry,

(35:19):
I got a fruit fly or something buzzing in my
face here. A previously undisclosed email obtained by The Detroit
News revealed that the Economic Development Corporation, where bay Done
served on the executive committee, played a larger and earlier
role in the funding provided by bay Done then previously

(35:39):
acknowledged in the past. Whitmer's office has downplayed the Democrat
governor's involvement in the appropriation that benefit bay Done and
said it was then House Speaker Jason Wentworth who was
a Republican who sponsored the twenty million dollar grant. See
it was twenty million dollars as I understand, it was
twenty million dollars, but they only got a portion of

(36:02):
the grant. That's was the original twenty million dollar grant
was sponsored by Republican Jason Wentworth that went to bay
Dune's Global Link International through the annual budget, which was
signed into law by Whitmer on July twentieth, twenty twenty two.
The sense canceled grant was used in part to purchase

(36:24):
a four thousand, five hundred dollars coffee maker. So I
guess we do know where part of the money went.

Speaker 20 (36:30):
Hundred dollars coffee that reminds me of a story that
happened in the nineteen sixties when a defense contractor built
a coffeemaker for a similar amount of money.

Speaker 13 (36:44):
Listen, I love coffee, but I would never pay four thousand,
five hundred dollars for a coffee maker. If you can't
make a cup of coffee for cheaper than that, well,
but see then your places in government. I guess that's
what government does. Obviously this is a scam. There was.

(37:07):
So there's a four thousand, five hundred dollars coffee maker
and eleven thousand dollars first class ticket to Budapest, and
they used in part also to pay Baydune an annual
salary of They paid her an annual salary of five
hundred and fifty thousand dollars. On February ninth, twenty twenty two,

(37:29):
medc CEO Quentin Messer Junior sent an email to state
officials personally congratulating Baydoune for a fifteen million dollar program
being included in Whitmer's initial budget recommendation. The governor's annual
proposal kicks off budget negotiations with lawmakers in the capital.

(37:49):
Messer wrote in the email with a subject line Governor's
fiscal twenty twenty three budget recommendation quote, congratulations TOMDC Executive
Committee Member Fay bay Done, who has been a champion
on this critical issue. Meanwhile, as a member of thedc's
executive committee, Baydun had the power to vote on Messer's

(38:12):
employment contract, and it would eventually be up to the
MDC to ensure that the money given to Beydoon's nonprofit
was used properly, a potential conflict of interest. While the
competitive grant program language Whitmer proposed and the direct earmarks
she signed to the law were different, they were similar
enough to raise new questions about the Governor's office what

(38:35):
they knew about the initiative Beadoon had advocated for. Otis McKinley,
a spokesman for the MEDC, declined comment. A month before
Messer touted the grant program, Whitmer's re election campaign announced
that Beydoun would serve on the Women for Whitmer Leadership Council,
and less than five months before the email, on September sixteenth,

(38:58):
twenty twenty one, Baydun held a fundraiser for Whitmer's re
election camp paign at her home in Farmington Hills. According
to campaign finance records and photos posted on Facebook, agents
of Attorney General Dana Nessil's office served a search warrant
on that same house on June eighteenth as part of
an embezzment probe. Nessel's investigators also raided them EDC office

(39:22):
that day in downtown Lansing. Now, Whitmer, I think in
Beydoon were out of the country at the time. I
believe they were in Australia. So bay done, you know,
and again on another scam wasting taxpayer money there supposedly
to attract business, but I'm sure it was to take
a vacation in Australia. But anyway, Baydune's welcome connected.

Speaker 20 (39:47):
Thorn Trade Mission, no doubt.

Speaker 13 (39:50):
Yeah, that's what they were referring it to it as sure,
something to that effect. Baydon's well connected in the Democrat
political world. Does a bundler for Whitmer's campaign, meaning she
collected contributions from other donors. According to two sources with
knowledge of her role, who requested anonymity because they were

(40:10):
not authorized to speak publicly about it, she personally donated
one hundred and fifty dollars to Whitmer's campaign in twenty nineteen.
She also contributed one thousand dollars to Whitmer's campaign on
September tenth, twenty twenty one, and one hundred thousand dollars
to the Michigan Democrat Party on September eleventh, twenty twenty one,
according to disclosures. So she's getting money from the state

(40:34):
and we don't know where the money went. Yes, she's
a big time fundraiser slash donor to the Democrat Party.
What's going on here looks like money laundering to me.
That's my opinion. In reaction to the messer email, Senate
Minority Leader Eric Nesbitt, who is a Republican, called on

(40:54):
Whitmer to come clean about how the grant tobaytoun came
to be. These shocking revelations, he said, of what appears
to be a rig system and blatant conflict of interests
are a slap of the face to Michigan taxpayers. Clearly
the METDC needs to be severely overhauled, if not outright dismantled. Well,
I'll vote for the latter, thank you very much. We
don't need an AMEDC, We need lower taxes in Michigan

(41:19):
across the board to attract businesses here. We need a
better business climate. Perhaps for business. We need to quit
punishing businesses in the state, but we don't need to
be giving them grants. We don't need to be choosing
winners and losers, and we certainly don't need to be

(41:40):
having a monetary pipeline through which the administration of such
said pipeline can be very very well lubricated. In the process,
you don't know where all the money goes because all
the money disappears in the process. So well, this is ridiculous.

(42:05):
It goes on from there.

Speaker 20 (42:06):
It's a complicated system that really does take some time
to understand because it all seems like that it would
be a good thing, but it's actually you know, it

(42:30):
could be a money laundering scheme. It's definitely a scheme
that controls the local machine. What was happening in Idaho
was that they were building a metropolitan area, which, of course,
a metropolitan area unless it's coded into law, it's basically

(42:57):
an organization that sits over the top of your elected
representative government, but they run everything, and so it eliminates
your representation in the government.

Speaker 13 (43:14):
Let's let's go to the phones. We've got to call
on the line house. This is from Canada. Hello, you're
on the air. Goo ahead please.

Speaker 26 (43:21):
Yeah, you mentioned the communists. One of my predictions is
if Man Danny gets elected mayor in New York after
November fourth this year, he's going to start pulling the
building permits on those who he thinks they're politically his opponents,

(43:42):
which is a lot of people. Now, I've seen that
done living in other cities in Asia where the mayor
got in power and did it to all the rich
people there and made them pay extra for a few

(44:04):
square feet here and there that he made them buy extra.

Speaker 27 (44:08):
You see.

Speaker 13 (44:09):
Yeah, I think doesn't New York City use that rank
choice voting?

Speaker 26 (44:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 13 (44:17):
I thought I heard that they do well, they might.

Speaker 26 (44:22):
But that The point is is that I think this
Man Danny guy is some kind of CIA op because
he just came on the scene real fast, and he
obviously has money, but none of his people that follow
him on stage and such like that, I believe are
being paid so big money can do that kind of thing.

(44:46):
And he's got a relationship with China because all these
states in Africa are supported by China. His state is Uganda.
I looked it up. There's several deals going on between
Guamdong provi and other provinces in the north of China,
and I feel that China is involved in it some way.

Speaker 13 (45:06):
So back to you, yeah, yeah, I think that there's
a lot of thing influences going on here, and absolutely
I share your fear of Mamdani getting elected, and everybody
in New York unfortunately, should be equally as concerned as

(45:27):
far as rank choice voting is concerned. I did a
quick search while you were talking, and yes, indeed, they
do use it in New York City and they're trying
to get that in place here in Michigan as well.
It's an insane system where voters basically rank instead of
voting for a candidate, they rank who they want in

(45:50):
the order that they want, and when the votes are counted,
only the first choices are tallied, and if a candidate
receives more than fifty percent the first choice votes, then
that candidate wins outright. If no candidate wins a majority,
the candidate with the fewest first choice votes are eliminated,

(46:11):
and then so the votes that were cast for the
eliminated candidate are then distributed to the voter's next preferred
candidate or their second choice. So then this process continues.
But the whole thing is confusing. It's but but what
more importantly what it does is it is it introduces

(46:33):
the potential for a lot of fraud, which I think
is really that whole point.

Speaker 20 (46:39):
There's any way to audit that?

Speaker 13 (46:42):
No, right, I don't think so either.

Speaker 26 (46:46):
Yeah, because the votes are eliminated, and if it was
a better system, there'd be more equity. But I'll have
to keep watching and see what I can find out,
and I'll try to get back to you then.

Speaker 13 (46:59):
Yeah, ye, hey, thank you for the call. I appreciate it.
God bless you. You're welcome, all right, talk to you later.
All right, you're welcome to call in two folks. Six ten,
six hundred seventeen seventy six, six ten, six hundred seventeen
seventy six. Yeah, this is a terrifying situation. And you know,
they've been after the electoral College for a long time now.

(47:21):
They're trying to get into this ranked choice voting as well.
And I know that's not what the caller called about,
but I think it's important for people to keep their
eyes peeled on this because they're going to do everything
they can those that are trying to destroy our system
of government to accelerate the process. I mean, we're we've

(47:42):
been in a pretty rapid boil for the last many years,
and things on some fronts have slowed down. Other fronts
are speeding up. Certainly, the police state, unfortunately under Trump,
I think, is speeding up in terms of Palentin in
their surveillance. We were talking about a lot about that

(48:02):
last last week. But there are other good things that
have happened. I have some uh information as time progresses
about the Endangered Species Act positive news. So you know,
all of that has been used to curtail private property rights,
which fits perfectly into the whole Marxist communist system. You know,

(48:26):
controlling all property rights, everything is going to be controlled
by the state and waters of the United States. All
of that stuff, uh, is an advancement of the what
I would view as the Marxist agenda, but that's been
curtailed under Trump. So there are some things good that

(48:47):
are happening under Trump. But we have to be aware
too that the overall agenda keeps to moving forward.

Speaker 20 (48:56):
For globalism well, I think, and equally number of bad things.
You know how they keep talking about Greenland and Panama. Well,
that's all part of See, the overall objective of all
this is to create the America's creating the Americas included

(49:21):
the elimination of the United States as a nation state,
replaced by the quote market state. Well, the market state
is the corporate led.

Speaker 13 (49:37):
State, yep.

Speaker 20 (49:40):
But we don't see it because they don't come out
as that. It's corporate management of the Congress behind the curtain, yep. I.

Speaker 13 (49:54):
By the way, I will just put these things in
the show notes. A few of the this Detroit News
story about the Michigan Economic Development Corporation, and a couple
of other articles that I have on this which people
can read and see what's going on in Michigan. But
I encourage you to take a look at what's happening
on that front in your own state as well, because

(50:17):
this is extremely important. Anyway, moving along here, in the
interest of time, I did mention that there are some
good things happening with regard to Agenda twenty one and
on the front of preserving private property rights. I've been
very critical of the Trump administration on many fronts. The

(50:38):
carbon pipelines is a perfect example of that. We don't
need to be taking car land by imminent domain from
farmers or anyone else for that matter, to install carbon pipelines.
And that was one of the provisions that was originally
in the so called big Beautiful Bill that the Republican

(51:00):
we're trying to get past. But uh, we had the
lesser prairie chicken. You remember the uh all these uh
these different endangered species on the Endangered Species Act. You know,
if if one of these endangered species are found on
your property, they're going to be doing everything they can

(51:21):
to control your property and keep you.

Speaker 20 (51:22):
From Remember you remember when they prosecuted that farmer for
running over a protected.

Speaker 13 (51:31):
Mouse, well preble jumping mash.

Speaker 20 (51:35):
Yeah, when that happened, I thought, well, this is really
stupid because they can manufact they can create new new
versions of mice or animals and then call it an
endangered species. So it's just guaranteed for fraud.

Speaker 13 (51:53):
Well yeah, and they don't even have to actually have
the endangered species present. All they have to do is
say that say that it's present, to say that they
spotted it, and and you know you're going to how
you're going to prove that it's not there you can't
prove a negative, but one I think the Endangered Species Act.
You know, the Republicans control Congress right now, they control

(52:15):
both chambers, the House and the Senate, and the Presidency.
This would be a great time to get rid of
the Endangered Species Act. This would be a great.

Speaker 20 (52:24):
But they won't do that because it's very useful. Our
political system is just absolutely nothing but fraud. Yeah, the
Democrat Republican thing because there is a bipartisan you you're
familiar with the Bipartisan Institute. That's where they really work

(52:50):
out the differences. They're the ones that really set the agenda.
So what we see from the Republicans and the Democrats
is really just theater.

Speaker 13 (53:02):
Yeah. Well, the nice thing is is that I think
they should get rid of all of this stuff. Endangered
Species Act, the whole water the Clean Water Act needs
to go. All of this stuff needs to go. But
at least the lesser prairie chicken was removed from the
Endangered Species Act.

Speaker 28 (53:22):
Federal protections removed for the lesser prairie chicken. A federal
judge sided with the Trump administration and took the animal
off the endangered species list. The Biden administration divided the
birds into two populations. The ones that lived in New
Mexico and Southwest Texas were listed as endangered, while the
ones in Kansas, Oklahoma, and the Texas Panhandle were classified
as threatened. How Kansas and other states sued. Federal officials

(53:44):
say dividing the birds into two was fundamentally flawed, so
the entire decision is invalidated. Attorney General Chris Cobok calls
this a huge win for Kansas ranchers and energy producers.

Speaker 13 (53:54):
Well, I can tell you right now that lesser prairie
chicken sherewood look good on my dinner plate. I'm just saying,
all right, I tell you what. We got a call
on the line. Let's go to the state of Georgia
right now, and we probably have to hold him over. Hello,
you're on the air. Go ahead, please, Yeah.

Speaker 27 (54:12):
I just wanted to make a real quick comment on
something Vicky said earlier.

Speaker 29 (54:17):
Okay, and I've I've heard Vicky. I've heard you say
this several times. You keep saying the declaration, and I'm
assuming you're talking about the Declaration of Independence, says we
the people. I have to correct you.

Speaker 10 (54:36):
No, I didn't.

Speaker 20 (54:38):
I didn't say the declaration. I just said, we the people.

Speaker 27 (54:41):
Yes, ma'am. You did. Yes, ma'am, you said the direct
you said the declaration says we the people. Go back
and listen to the archives.

Speaker 20 (54:50):
Okay, well, well whatever I mean.

Speaker 13 (54:53):
I'm the people.

Speaker 20 (54:53):
I'm not like most people that are in the I
don't study that stuff. Honestly. My focus is computer systems period. Okay,
but go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 27 (55:09):
Well, we the people are the first three words of
the Constitution itself, and I find it very shocking you
talk about these issues, but then you say, now you
say you don't study this very much. How can you
speak on these issues and reference these this language if

(55:30):
you don't study the documents. I don't understand that logic.

Speaker 20 (55:35):
Because my focus is on the computer systems that were
developed to give us a police state, nullifying the Constitution.
When they globalized our country, when they created the Common Market,
when they signed those agreements with Canada and Mexico, they

(55:58):
basically nullified our government. So whatever you see in the
Constitution and the historical documents, you can forget all that
stuff because they overrode it when they created the Common
Market and the Free Trade Area of the Americas.

Speaker 13 (56:18):
Okay, we got to go to the break anything else? Art, No,
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For American Family News. I'm Robert Thornton. President Donald Trump
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nation's schools and universities. In her ruling, a US district
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law when it threatened to cut federal funding from educational
institutions that continued with DEI initiatives. Probation for the owner
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Speaker 32 (01:00:00):
Reports, Erdin Arkhan told him Manhattan Federal Judge Friday he
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le Celesera.

Speaker 31 (01:00:42):
Fox News news Week's Josh Hammer told Afar that there
is a well orchestrated information operation that is trying to
tear apart Christians and Jews, and that it's evil and
must be defeated.

Speaker 33 (01:00:54):
It's really starting to pick up in recent weeks. So
there was this whole There was this whole allegation of
a historic church in Samaria, the aka of the quote
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committed active arson to burn and down and this spread

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like wildfire all throughout the internet and all the usual suspects,
all those who are who are inclined or are already
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Speaker 31 (01:01:26):
And another issue, he said, is that Tucker Carlson has
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Speaker 34 (01:01:40):
One of the reasons Republicans gain control of the Senate
in twenty twenty four was the victory of Bernie Marino
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But with the ascension of Senator J. D. Evans to
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Houston as Vance's replacement, paving the way for a special
election in November of twenty twenty. S now Brown has

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officially decided to challenge hostd Tom Zawasowski is president of
the Ohio based Tea Party affiliated We the People Convention.

Speaker 35 (01:02:08):
They're going to throw fifty million dollars at it and
see if they can beat John Houston, the Republican who
was appointed to the Senate seat. So he hasn't run
for election as a Senator yet, but he has run
for state office and he's won. He was lieutenant governor.
So it's going to be a battle and they're going
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we will win in the end.

Speaker 34 (01:02:31):
But the Tea Party leader admits there's another concern.

Speaker 35 (01:02:34):
The biggest factor is that we defeated him with Trump
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only because Trump's on the ballot. We saw that in
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it is a concern.

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From FEMA Regions five to ten. This is the second
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Speaker 20 (01:05:14):
Before we move on, I want to add a little
bit more to what I was saying before break.

Speaker 13 (01:05:20):
Yeah. Absolutely, Okay.

Speaker 20 (01:05:22):
When they started building, the designing and building these national
systems that turned out to be global systems, they changed
the paradigm of defense and of policing that the new
paradigm was preventative defense, which means they turned this technology

(01:05:48):
in on the American people to try and look for
terrorists within the country. They also did the same thing
with policingive policing. Well, what does that mean. That means
that they gather up all the information, They run programs
that do analysis on you. They determine where your weaknesses are.

(01:06:14):
They can set you up in a heartbeat. And so
I've spent my whole all this twenty years trying to
help people understand these computer systems and how they have
turned our country into a police state. So you can

(01:06:37):
get mad at me because I didn't spend two years,
five years reading every word of the Constitution, but I
know enough of the Constitution to understand that the system
that they built is just absolutely unconstitutional. It's a police state.
And if that was a bad thing, so be it.

(01:07:00):
I don't give a damn because it's more important for
you to understand the the the threat that's in your
face than it is to understand a constitution written three
hundred years ago. That other than that, it's set up

(01:07:23):
the framework, and it's within that framework that I'm trying
to expose how they overrode that. Well, the cost they
eliminated that.

Speaker 13 (01:07:33):
The Constitution is a roadmap. We need to get back
to the Constitution. Yes, we need to get.

Speaker 20 (01:07:41):
You can't understand the need to get back to the
Constitution unless you understand how these fusion centers that they've
built all over the country control every damn aspect of
your life. And whether you see them or not.

Speaker 13 (01:07:56):
Yeah, it's it's everything. It's algorithms, everything is supplanting individual
liberty and privacy. Privacy is extremely important, and I think
unfortunately this next generation coming up isn't going to understand
or even ever experience privacy, because it's what they're building
right now is going to be. And if you don't
have privacy, you don't have freedom because if you're surveilled

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in every aspect of your life. You know, right now,
Canada not to get off the point, but Canada is
making it to the point where people can't even go
into the woods now. They are making it to the
point where, under the guise of fighting wildfires, you're not
even allowed to go into the wood. There's a couple
of provinces right now that have banned people to the

(01:08:43):
point of finding them if people go into the woods,
and it's just crazy to me. Some are calling it
climate lockdowns. Nova Scotia is one of them. There is
an article in the CBC. Is Nova Scotia going too far?
It says critics of a drought driven wood band, and

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Nova Scotia says it's an instance of government overreach. Provincial
officials say the ban, which came into effect Tuesday that
prohibits hiking and camping in the forest is necessary given hot,
dry conditions throughout the province and is and the heightened
risk of wildfires. So They are literally banning people from

(01:09:27):
going into wild areas in Canada now under the guys
of preventing wildfires. There was one man that was fined
twenty eight thousand, eight hundred and seventy two dollars for
walking into the woods. Now do you see how I mean?
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out how

(01:09:48):
this fits into the overall plan for sustainable development, does it?
They want us all living in the Stockholm un Packham
surveillance ridden sustainable city, your fifteen minute cities.

Speaker 20 (01:10:04):
Well, and if you walk out of your house and
there's a camera that you know is capturing the image
of your face walking out your house at two twenty
nine oh three on an afternoon, how much freedom do
you have?

Speaker 13 (01:10:23):
Right? Yeah? And many people are puating these cameras right
on their door, you know, the ring doorbells. They go
straight to the police stations they're able to use that.
And of course the federal fusion centers are intertwined to
the police stations. So people are actually paying money to
a company that is a part of the police state system.

Speaker 20 (01:10:46):
Right, your tax dollars are going to make you going
to pay for the system that makes you a prisoner
in your own country.

Speaker 13 (01:10:56):
Yep, exactly.

Speaker 20 (01:10:57):
And another thing, you know, they're changing the paradigm on healthcare.
They've been actually working on it for the last twenty
thirty years. Insurance companies are making the decisions on what
care you get. Doctors have basically been sub subjugated to

(01:11:23):
the insurance companies, and the insurance companies have these systems
that is not only your health record, but all the
other information to make a determination, even outside of the
healthcare system, how worthy are you for us to spend
our money to keep you alive? If you're not worthy,

(01:11:47):
then the treatment, whatever it is, will be denied.

Speaker 13 (01:11:51):
Well, if you're in a useless eater as defined by
whatever algorithm is being employed at the given time, and
you're probably not going to do very well in that regard, which,
by the way, they're changing the definition of death as well.
I'll get to that as time progresses. We got another
call on the line. Let's go ahead and take the call, Kansas.

(01:12:12):
I think this is Sherry. Hello, you're on the air.

Speaker 36 (01:12:13):
Go ahead, please, Hello, guys, I wanted to add something
on that we the people saying. When Cliff Richardson did
his show on on RBN and his analysis, and he
said that we the people he thinks really meant just

(01:12:35):
the people there that at the the illegal Convention when
they were just supposed to be you know, revising the
Articles of Confederation. And then of course now I haven't
read Lysander Spooner's book that Roger has, but I've heard

(01:12:58):
people say that he's that constitution was only valid to
the people that signed it once they all died, you know.
And that's why I called it this the Constitution of
No something or yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:13:14):
Well, you know, there's a lot of statements in the
so called patriot community that I think are absolute nonsense.
To be frank with you. The truth of the matter
is that constitution applies if the people say it applies.
That constitution means what the people say it means. And
I would say that if the government isn't complying with

(01:13:40):
the mandates in the Constitution, especially the Bill of Rights,
then the people need to be enforcing that on the
government officials, holding their feet to the fire. The reason
why we've gotten into the mess that we've gotten into
is because people haven't cared until recently. Things have gotten
bad enough now and people have gone through a great

(01:14:01):
awakening and I think, honestly, I think in many respects
the other side has overplayed their hand with the two
thousand and to the twenty twenty lockdown with regard to
the COVID mess. But it seems like they're replicating that
whole process all over again with these climate lockdowns starting
in Canada. I think Canada and many many respects, is
being a test ground for that. But if they get

(01:14:24):
away with it up there, they're going to try it here.
I'm sure.

Speaker 20 (01:14:27):
Well, and let me let me throw this in. This
is where it becomes so important. If I'm right about
what the uh what Moss Baker, who was the Seccretary
of Commerce, If I'm right about what he was saying,
and they basically redefined we the people to be we

(01:14:53):
the corporations, the corporations are the people, and they gave
democracy to the real people. Then what you would have
as constitutional protections for corporations.

Speaker 36 (01:15:14):
Well, you do have constitutional protection for corporations, and that's
what some people say the Fourteenth Amendment did. And also
there has been a court Supreme Court ruling that basically
says corporations are people too. And that's why I don't
know if it was some politician I want to say Romney,

(01:15:36):
but I'm not sure that something like well, corporations are
people too.

Speaker 20 (01:15:44):
Well, But the concept of that is so heinous because
they basically threw the real people to the dogs. Corporation
is a business. Doing a business is not a right.

Speaker 13 (01:16:08):
I don't think.

Speaker 36 (01:16:09):
And corporations my shelf mean, I don't think there should
be corporations my shelf. They too much abuse on it.

Speaker 13 (01:16:21):
Well, I think you got to have corporations, But the
point is is that they should be At one time
they were. They had to be in the public interest,
I think.

Speaker 36 (01:16:32):
And a lot of people say that the Act of
eighteen seventy one made our federal government into a corporation,
and then other people say that from the very beginning,
our federal government's been a corporation. But I wanted to
talk about what you opened up the show with talking
about this summit, and you talked about how the thing

(01:16:57):
about the start of the war with Bill Clinton actually
started that when under Bush one, they agreed not to
move NATO any farther, when Gorbachev agreed to pull the choot,
the there's troops out of the Soviet Union, troops out

(01:17:19):
of East Berlin and let Germany reknite, and they said
they wouldn't move NATO one foot one inch.

Speaker 13 (01:17:30):
Right right right eastward. Yep.

Speaker 36 (01:17:32):
And Bill Clinton started doing that when he became president.

Speaker 13 (01:17:36):
Yep. This has been a progressional sure, yeah, exactly, yes,
go ahead. I'm sorry any way.

Speaker 36 (01:17:41):
I wanted to throw that into.

Speaker 29 (01:17:43):
So yeah, absolutely, let you guys get on.

Speaker 36 (01:17:45):
Good show.

Speaker 13 (01:17:46):
Hey, thank you, appreciate the call. There Shery God bless you. Yeah. Absolutely,
this is certainly something that they promised and they went
back on their promise. And this is the unfortunate situation
that we have right now with the world, is that
nobody trusts the United States because everything they promise they
go back on. And that's the bad situation. So what

(01:18:09):
kind of agreement to.

Speaker 20 (01:18:10):
Me, expect to think that is intentional that they've done
that and it's part of the plan to take the
United States down?

Speaker 13 (01:18:18):
Totally agree solve it.

Speaker 20 (01:18:20):
Because they're building the North American Union, the Common Market,
and the United States was a problem in building the
Common Market. And by the way, the open borders is
due to the concept of the Common market.

Speaker 13 (01:18:43):
Yeah. One thing that I do like is the Trump
administration is working to more narrow the definition of waters
of the United States. I think I alluded to this earlier.
I wanted to come back to it the ep AG.

Speaker 20 (01:19:00):
Yeah, I'm glad you did, because I wanted to say
we should eliminate it totally.

Speaker 13 (01:19:04):
Protection and the Clean Water Act, which is where this
comes from. US Environmental Protection Agency administertor Lee Zelden announced
back in March that the EPA would work with the
US Army Corps of Engineers to deliver on President Trump's
promise to review the definition of waters of the United States.
The agencies and I'm reading from THEEPA dot gov website,

(01:19:25):
the agencies will move quickly to ensure that a revised
definition follows the law, reduces red tape, cuts overall permitting costs,
and lowers the cost of doing business and communities across
the country while protecting the nation's navigable waters from pollution. Well,
do we need the federal government, who does a lot

(01:19:48):
of polluting, by the way, do we need them to
save us from pollution? I don't think so. And now
there are certain cases where they might bring charges against
a company. But see, here's the thing. There's there. When
was the last time a corporate CEO went to prison

(01:20:08):
for anything. When was the last time a board of
directors that make decisions went to prison or really suffered
any real personal consequences. I mean, all the government does
is find them, and most of the time the fine
amounts to a slap on the hand.

Speaker 20 (01:20:26):
Petty cash. Really, last time I remember CEO getting prosecuted
was world come.

Speaker 13 (01:20:33):
Well, yeah, that guy.

Speaker 20 (01:20:36):
Was Schwartz.

Speaker 13 (01:20:38):
I don't know anyway. But but the thing is is
that it needs to happen more often. Corporations need to
be held accountable, but not just the corporations themselves, but
the people. There are people that run the corporations that
make decisions, the board of directors, the CEOs, the executives,
the people that are in power in the corporations. They're

(01:21:00):
are ones that actually make the decisions that ultimately make
pollution a reality. And uh and it's one Pollution is
one thing. But when you have a wilful and deliberate,
intentional destruction of the environment by these characters, they should
be criminally charged and held responsible.

Speaker 20 (01:21:20):
Well, you know what I'm not talking about CO two investigated.
What I would like to see investigated is the allowing
inward foreign direct investment and allowing corporations like Nestley to
get mineral leases so that they can pump water for

(01:21:44):
sale on the global market, which is what made my
friends well go dry. They pumped out the water from
her well from the underground reservoir that her well was
tapped into. That's criminal as far as I'm concerned.

Speaker 13 (01:22:03):
Well, but it's in being enabled by the state, and
that's the problems.

Speaker 20 (01:22:08):
Right, federal government gave Nessley mineral right.

Speaker 13 (01:22:11):
Now, was it the federal government or was it the
state of Michigan. See, I think it was the state.

Speaker 20 (01:22:20):
Really, I don't know. That's a good question, that's.

Speaker 13 (01:22:24):
But anyway, Administrator Lee Zelden says, we want clean water
for all Americans, supported by clearing and consistent rules for
all States farmers and small businesses. The previous administration's definition
of waters of the United States placed unfair burdens on
the American people and drove up the cost of doing business.

(01:22:44):
Our goal is to protect America's water resources consistent with
the law of the land, while impair empowering American farmers, landowners, entrepreneurs,
and families to help power the great American comeback. Farmers
and ran are the best stewards of the land and
need water regulations that are clear and practical, not burdensome.

(01:23:07):
And that was last quote. That last sentence was from
the US Secretary of Agriculture Rawlins, who said, So, anyway,
I'll leave that there. The point is is that they
have worked to do that, and this is good news.
But I think the Clean Water Act altogether needs to
be eliminated. It's not. In other words, what they're doing

(01:23:28):
right now isn't going far enough. But at least you
have the environmental organizations crying and moaning about it and
saying things like this. They say, in the largest rollback
of clean water protections in fifty years, the Supreme Court
ruled in May that the Clean Water Act does not

(01:23:50):
protect a majority of the nation's wetlands and millions of
miles of streams. See what they're doing, in case people
don't know, they're trying to make everything basically a navigable waterway,
you know, And this is connected to that, right, this
is connected to that, and that's connected to this. And

(01:24:10):
so consequently, we can control your land, we can put
your land off limits, we can dictate to you everything
that you do, or or more importantly, dictate stuff that
you can't do. So you get to pay the property taxes,
but guess what, you don't really own it, and you
don't own it anyway if you have to pay extortion
on it, but I know, you don't even get the
use of it.

Speaker 20 (01:24:30):
Early early two thousands, there were groups that were mapping
the headwaters. You know, a big river starts from a
little stream or a puddle somewhere, and you know, it
flows and then a lot of times that will go
underground and collect and you know, so they were looking

(01:24:53):
for where the headwaters were so that they could well
I don't know what their purpose was, but they were
environmental groups, so we can guess.

Speaker 13 (01:25:04):
M Well, there was this There was this Supreme Court
decision which went down in the right right way. And
and again I have to give Trump some credit. Again
I'm critical of Trump on a lot of fronts, but
some of the stuff that he has done with regard
to appointing certain Supreme Court justices, they haven't all been wonderful,

(01:25:26):
but I'd rather have some decisions come down in our
favor than none at all. And uh, now there was
this case. There was the Sackets case. Uh their own
property owners in Ohido, Idaho. Maybe you're familiar with this case, Vicky,
since you live here.

Speaker 20 (01:25:45):
Yeah, actually I do remember it, not not well, but I.

Speaker 13 (01:25:49):
Remember the Sackets owned property in Idaho and they filled
in a wetland in order to build a home, cause,
you know, they thought it was their property. They thought
they could do what they wanted with their property. But
they did so without obtaining a Clean Water Act permit.
I'll tell you what. I'll finish this on the other

(01:26:10):
side of the break. We're at the bottom of the
hour already, and we'll continue. Ladies and gentlemen. It's good
to know that there's a few good things happening. Will
it go far enough? I'll take what I can get
at this point, and certainly a lesser powerful Clean Water
Act is better than an all powerful Clean Water Act'd

(01:26:32):
be better if we could get rid of it altogether.
But as I said, I'll take what I can get.
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Speaker 13 (01:31:24):
Welo back to the broadcast. This is Governor America talking
about the Sacket versus EPA Supreme Court decision that took
place in twenty twenty three. I think it was and
it's important because the limits to the waters of the
United States under the Clean Water Act is very important

(01:31:48):
to private property owners. As I was saying before the break,
the Sackets were property owners in Idaho and they filled
in a wetland to build a home. But they did
so without obtaining a Clean Water Act permit. And because
of that, now that you know, I'm sure they had
no way of knowing that this was considered a water

(01:32:11):
of the United States. These are the people that just
wanted to build a house on their property, property that
they supposedly quote unquote own. But they because of that,
they were sighted and fined, and they appealed, and eventually
the case made it all the way to the Supreme Court.
The case raised two questions, does the Clean Water Act

(01:32:32):
protect the wetlands? Protect the wetland of the sackets filled
how far does the Act go to safeguard wetlands across
the country. The Court has ruled on this issue before,
in the two thousand and six case Rapanos versus the
United States. The Court held then that the wetlands are

(01:32:53):
protected by the Clean Water Act if they have a
significant nexus quote unquote to navigable waters defined as the
as the waters of the United States in the text
of the Act. Now there's also the Chevron defference. I
think comes into play here too, because if the EPA
says something prior to the overturn of the Chevron defference,

(01:33:17):
it would have been basically considered the law of the.

Speaker 20 (01:33:20):
Land, because the EPA.

Speaker 13 (01:33:24):
Said so exactly. That's why the overturning of the Chevron defference.
I come back to this often. But this was so
monumental and changing the regulatory landscacape because suddenly now all
of these other things can be challenged where before they couldn't.
So Rapane's affirmed that case affirmed the stated intent of Congress,

(01:33:49):
and this was written by the way of stated intent
of Congress. This is written by an environmental organization. So
they say it's the stated intent of Congress that the
Act went beyond protections for navigable waters and held that
wetlands affecting the chemical, physical, and biological integrity of adjacent

(01:34:09):
tributaries of navigable waters were deemed wotus waters of the
United States and thus covered by the law. The significant
nexus standard, they say, is based on the intent of
Congress and it passed the Clean Water Act. It focuses
on the interconnectivity of the hydrologic system. The Act aimed
to protect the sackets, arguing.

Speaker 20 (01:34:34):
I remember reading a story about a couple that had
just like a ditch, you know, just a drainage ditch
in front of their house, and they were fined because
they were filling in the ditch or something. I can't

(01:34:57):
quite remember the full details, but it was a dessert.

Speaker 13 (01:35:01):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 20 (01:35:02):
They just reached the level of absurdity with that.

Speaker 13 (01:35:06):
Well, you can you can stretch in Idaho.

Speaker 20 (01:35:10):
It also goes the reverse way. There was a guy
up in northern Idaho that built a pond, and they
not only find him, but they put him in jail
for building a pond.

Speaker 13 (01:35:27):
Yeah. And that's what's crazy about it is if you,
I mean, you can stretch this concept of a significant
nexus as far as you want to, I think, you know,
because ultimately everything is connected, isn't it.

Speaker 29 (01:35:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 20 (01:35:48):
Yes, and but but yeah, what what people should know
is that in order to gain control of our population,
they have used two routes to do it. One is
the environment, the other one is public health. And basically
there they've just been you've seen those the picture of

(01:36:12):
the uh how you catch wild pigs. You put out
food for them and let that happen for a couple
of days, and then you put up one part of
the fence.

Speaker 13 (01:36:24):
Yeah that's uh, that was the wild pigs of the
Oki Finoki Swamp.

Speaker 20 (01:36:31):
You remember that story, Okay, Yeah, And so that's what
they've been doing to us over all these years is just,
you know, very slowly, you know, putting up one part
of the fence and then the next part of the fence.
Ultimately they will corral people into stack them and packhams

(01:36:55):
and in smart cities where they will control every thing
and One of the things that that I don't think
very many people know is that they changed the expanded
the powers of the EPA to control the environment through

(01:37:16):
eco regions. It's not just it's not just individual things.
They defined actual eco regions where they managed the eco
system within an ecoregion. And I'll put that. I'll put

(01:37:37):
the link to that in the show notes.

Speaker 13 (01:37:40):
What's your take a look? Referring to the wild pigs
of the Oki Swamp. The way that story goes is
some years ago, about nineteen hundred, old trapper from North
Dakota ed up some horses.

Speaker 20 (01:37:51):
I'm not hearing you, Darren, you're not hearing me. No,
you just went suddenly, very very low.

Speaker 13 (01:37:58):
Well that's weird. I haven't done anything.

Speaker 20 (01:38:02):
Yeah, I don't know. Maybe I have an old headset here.
So maybe it's finally gonna bite the dust.

Speaker 13 (01:38:12):
You got a battery, Maybe maybe you should Uh, well,
I hear you.

Speaker 20 (01:38:15):
Okay, Okay, now you're back.

Speaker 13 (01:38:18):
Well I never went anywhere, I just had.

Speaker 20 (01:38:22):
I just had to mess with the volume control.

Speaker 13 (01:38:25):
I wouldn't leave you in the middle of the show,
I promise you.

Speaker 20 (01:38:28):
Okay.

Speaker 13 (01:38:29):
But some years ago, about nineteen hundred, this story goes.
An old trapper from North Dakota hitched up some horses
to a Studebaker wagon packed with a few possessions, especially
as traps, and drove south. Several weeks later, he stopped
in a small town just north of the Okee Finochi
Swamp in Georgia. It was a Saturday morning, a lazy day,
when he walked into the general store sitting around the

(01:38:50):
pot belly stove, where seven or eight of the town's
local citizens. The traveler spoke, gentlemen, could you direct me
to the oke Finoch Swamp? And some of the old
timers looked him like he was crazy. You must be
a stranger in these parts, they said, I am, he said,
He said, I am. I'm from North Dakota, and I'm
in the Orkie Finoki Swamp. Are thousands of wild hogs.

(01:39:13):
One old man explained, a man who goes into the
swamp by himself asks to die. He lifted up his leg.
I lost half my leg there to the pigs of
the swamp. Another old fellow said, look at the cuts
on me. Look at my left arm, it's bit off.
Those pigs have been free since the Revolution, eating snakes
and rooting out roots and fending for themselves over one

(01:39:36):
hundred years. They're wild and they're dangerous. You can't trap them.
No man dare go into the swamp by himself. And
every man nodded his head in agreement, and the old
trapper said, thank you very much for the warning. Now,
if you could direct me to the swamp. They said, well, yeah,
it's due south, straight down the road. But they begged
the stranger not to go, because they knew he'd meet

(01:39:58):
a terrible fate. He said, sell me ten sacks of
corn and helped me load it into the wagon, And
so they did. The old man went, bid them farewell,
drove down the road. Townsfolk thought they'd never see him again. Well,
two weeks later he came back. He pulled up to
the general store, got off his wagon, walked in, and
he bought ten more sacks of corn. After loading it up,

(01:40:19):
went back down the road toward the swamp. Two weeks
later he returned again for ten more sacks of corn.
This went on for a month, then two months, then three.
Every week, every week or two, the old trapper would
come back to town, load up ten sacks of corn,
drive south into the swamp. The stranger soon came became
a legend in the little village and the subject of

(01:40:41):
much speculation. People wondered what kind of devil he possessed
that he could go into the Oak Finocchi Swamp by
himself and not be consumed by the wild and free hogs.
One morning, the man came down the road into the
town as usual, everyone thought he wanted more corn. He
got off the way went into the store where the

(01:41:02):
unusual where the usual group of men were gathered around
the stove. He took off his gloves and said, gentlemen,
I need to hire about ten or fifteen wagons. I
need twenty or thirty men. I have six thousand hogs
out in the swamp penned up, and they're all hungry.
I've got to get them to market right away. And
they said, you've got what in the swamp? Storekeeper said,

(01:41:24):
couldn't believe it. He says, I have six thousand hogs
pinned up. They haven't eaten for two or three days,
and they'll starve if I don't get back there to
feed them and take care of them. One of the
old time timers said, you mean to tell me you've
captured the wild hogs of Okie Finoki. He says, that's right,
How did you do that? What did you do? The

(01:41:45):
man urged breathlessly. One of them exclaimed, but I lost
my arm, I lost my brother, cried another. I lost
my leg to those wild boares, chimed the third. The
trapper said, well, the first week I went in there,
they were wild all right. They hid under the undergrowth
and wouldn't come out. I dared not get off the wagon,
so I spread the corn along the wagon. Every day,

(01:42:07):
I'd spread a sack of corn. The old pigs would
have nothing to do with it. But the younger pigs,
they decided it was easier for them to eat free
corn than it was to root out roots and catch snakes.
So the very young began to eat the corn first.
I did this every day. Pretty soon even the old
pigs decided that it was easier to eat free corn.
After all, they were all free. They were all pinned up.

(01:42:30):
They could not run out any direction at any time.
You know, just like VICKI said, they put up one fence.
He put up one fence. Now they didn't feel too
threatened by one fence. But then he kept spreading the corn.
Then he put up another fence. You know, they were
still open. They were still able to free, free to run,

(01:42:53):
come and go, and they could still subsidize their diets
with snakes roots whatever they wanted. Then he put up
the third the third rail, the third fence, and again
they were still free to come and go as they pleased.
And finally they he completed the process by putting up

(01:43:17):
the fourth rail, and then he closed all the gates.
He said, I fed him very very well, and yesterday
I closed the last gate, and today I need you
to help the take these pigs to market. Now, if
anybody doesn't see how that whole thing is being played
out in America today, it's a perfect example.

Speaker 20 (01:43:40):
How absolutely right.

Speaker 13 (01:43:45):
Through free government programs, free government meals free government. Everything
they're building, all the fencing they're building, all the gates
they're putting up all the barriers to improve, isn't us?
And if we don't wake up and realize that we're

(01:44:09):
we're going to lose our own bacon. We're going to
become the bacon they're going to feast upon us. But yeah,
I think I've read that story before on the show,
and but you referenced it Vicky, and I thought would
be a good time to rehash it, so to speak.

Speaker 20 (01:44:27):
Yeah, it's a good reminder because that is how the
government works. I mean, they've been working on capturing our
country for since at least the turn of the ninth
the twentieth century. M So and the who Actually I

(01:44:51):
guess it was before that because it was Carnegie. I
put all of this on Carnegie, who then partnered with
of course Rockefeller, and oh well Ford got in it,
but it was in the nineteen forties when Ford got in.

(01:45:15):
But it was really Rockfeller and Carnegie.

Speaker 13 (01:45:18):
Yeah. So moving along here, we would be talking about
some of the Agenda twenty one programs and some of
the stuff. At least the Trump administration has done some
things to try to mitigate some of it, and I
think that that's wonderful, but it needs to go all
the way. But while the Republicans are in power, if

(01:45:39):
the Republicans really have the well being of the country
in mind, they need to go all the way and
eliminate this stuff. One of the things that Trump has
said he wants to do is make gas cans great again.

Speaker 40 (01:45:52):
Release from the Environmental Protection Agency said the Trump administration
wants to make gas cans great again by improving flow.
They've sent letters to gas can manufacturers encouraging changes to
make the fuel flow easier. A shift from a previous
EPA standard meant to curb pollution, the epas that it
has received year I.

Speaker 13 (01:46:12):
Gotta take issue with it. It's not meant to curb pollution.
It's meant to stop carbon dioxide from entering the atmosphere.
What they were trying to say is that the vents
in the gas can, you know, the event that you
pull the plug on to allow air into the gas can,

(01:46:33):
so to replace the water that you're pouring out. They're
saying those vents were releasing carbon dioxide into the atmosphere
and this was causing contributing the greenhouse warming. I mean,
this is this is so absurd. But this is part
and parcel these stupid, idiotic grant funded pseudoscience studies that

(01:46:58):
are done by these left wing universities and other institutions.
Somebody received a federal grant more than likely to study
the impacts of carbon dioxide, you know, gasoline cans on
the release of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.

Speaker 20 (01:47:19):
And well, that's your innovation economy funding entrepreneurs to go
out and invent new things.

Speaker 13 (01:47:28):
Yeah, well, have you seen gas cans lately? Yes, I'm
off for fixing gas cans. You can start by taking
off all those aniotic, stupid safety features that make them
impossible to use.

Speaker 20 (01:47:41):
I I had to go buy a new gas can
because when I tried to use mine, it just kind
of fell apart. But it's so complicated I can figure
out how to do it. But thank god I found
an old gas.

Speaker 13 (01:48:01):
That's what I'm looking for. I think of it, and
you know.

Speaker 20 (01:48:04):
What all you have to do is take take the
lid offense, screw it, and there is the hole that
you put gas in.

Speaker 13 (01:48:13):
Yeah, imagine that. That's what I did. I end up
having to take that ridiculous monstrosity contraption that they've engineered
because what they want you to do, they want you
to be able to hold the gas can, which is
five gallons of liquid. It's kind of heavy, you know,
especially when you have to lift it quite a wide

(01:48:35):
waves off the ground. If what you're pouring it into
is like a big truck, you lift it up quite high,
and then you're supposed to stand there and turn this
hold it with one hand, I guess why you're pushing
a button to release the trigger on the spout. With another,
I mean, this is the most asenine thing, and it

(01:48:58):
just makes me think that whoever invented this idiotic mess
has never used a gas can, so.

Speaker 20 (01:49:06):
They have no possible you know, they have no.

Speaker 13 (01:49:09):
Clue what people have to do to pour gas out
of a can. So I really hope Trump will do
something or somebody in the federal government somewhere, because you know,
this is a federal mandate, you just know it is.

Speaker 20 (01:49:25):
Yeah, Well, if ever he does, and if ever normal
gas cans are back on the market, buy a dozen.

Speaker 13 (01:49:33):
Yeah, well, I'm going to see if I can find some.
There's got to be where there's a demand, there's got
to be a supply. There's got to be a place
you can go to buy some of these.

Speaker 40 (01:49:42):
The EPA said it has received years of complaints about
how gas cans currently function. Legislation dating back to two
thousand and seven changed the way gas cans are manufactured.
The EPA finalized a rule that year that required portable
fuel container manufacturers to reduce evaporative emissions by ceiling in
gasoline verdis It went into effect in two thousand and nine,

(01:50:03):
and the EPA stated that due to confusion, manufacturers stopped
installing vents altogether. In two thousand and eight, Congress passed
the Children's Gasoline Burned Prevention Act, which requires gas cans
to be child resistant.

Speaker 13 (01:50:16):
Oh geez.

Speaker 40 (01:50:17):
Then in twenty twenty, Congress passed the Portable Fuel Container
Safety Act.

Speaker 13 (01:50:21):
See it's for the children. They did it for the children, VICKI.

Speaker 20 (01:50:24):
Yeah, you know what, I can never remember a time
when I was a kid that I was interested in
gas cans.

Speaker 13 (01:50:32):
Well, I mean, if you have a childhood, you know,
like if you're an arsonist in the making, then maybe
you might have a fascination with you know, some children
play with matches. Do are we going to make those
impossible to use? Maybe I shouldn't give them any ideas.

Speaker 40 (01:50:48):
Then in twenty twenty, Congress passed the Portal.

Speaker 13 (01:50:50):
Yeah, well that's the case that that'll be next if
they get their way. All right, sorry, let me go
ahead and continue.

Speaker 40 (01:50:58):
Rouble Fuel Container Safety Act, which mandated the use of
flame mitigation devices in cans to prevent flashback ignition. The
EPA said that further complicated nozzle and spout designs the
confusion surrounding gas cans has been a frustration for years.
We are proud to address this issue head on, Lee Zelden,
EPA administrator, said in a statement. Moving forward, Americans should

(01:51:21):
have gas cans that are compliant, but most importantly, that
are effective and consumer friendly.

Speaker 13 (01:51:26):
No, they don't need to be compliant with anything. I mean,
I could understand maybe wanting them to be a standard
color because you don't want to have you don't want
to have gasoline in a milk jug, for instance, because
somebody might not know what it is. I could see
having saying that the only thing you need to put

(01:51:47):
it in is a red container. Okay, I could understand
that and have that be a certain thickness maybe because
you don't want it blowing up on people. But beyond that,
I mean, a certain amount of personal responsibility comes into
play here, So compliance.

Speaker 39 (01:52:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 40 (01:52:09):
I think that these regulations began when regulators noticed that
gas cans were a significant contributor to air pollution. The
California Air Resources Board adopted new gas can regulations back
in nineteen ninety nine, with chairman doctor Alan Lloyd saying,
our research shows that these cans are a major source
of pollution. Another report showed emissions from a single old

(01:52:30):
style gas could be sixty times higher than a car's
gas tank if both were left open next to each other.
It reached the point where some states such as Utah
and Iowa even hold gas can exchange programs. Manufacturers will
now be able to produce gas cans in a manner
similar to how they were made a few decades ago.
Gas cans used to pour gas, Zelden said in a

(01:52:52):
post on x Now they just dribble like a child
sippy cup. The Trump EPA's message to gas can makers,
vent the darn can and let it flow, baby Flow.
This move from the EPA follows the introduction of the
Gas Can Freedom Act of twenty twenty five by Representative
Chip Raw in February. That bill would repeal the Portable

(01:53:12):
Fuel Container Safety Act and would further prohibit the Consumer
Product Safety Commission from imposing child resistance standards on gas cans.
The bill was sent to the House Committee on Energy
and Commerce, but it has since seen no movement. Changing
certain consumer goods has been a staple for the Trump administration.
The President aimed to make showers great again with an

(01:53:32):
executive order changing the amount of water pressure allowed in
shower heads a long standing grievance of his.

Speaker 13 (01:53:38):
So this is how it's This is the ridiculousness of
it all. You know, this is what we're what it's
come to to the point where, I mean, everything is
so overregulated it's unbelievable.

Speaker 20 (01:53:51):
What and those regulations cost money. That that's called demand push.
The government is creating the demand and I think that,
you know, maybe that's really the only thing that keeps
our economy going because they've they've basically strangled it.

Speaker 13 (01:54:16):
Well, we are speaking of overregulation of every single thing
you do. I mentioned earlier that that Canada is now
undergoing basically what amounts to climate lockdowns. And this is
a bizarre and very troubling thing that is occurring in Canada.

(01:54:36):
And I think that, you know, there's two provinces now
that are doing it. But now I think, honestly, this
is a test thing. If they get away with it there,
they're going to do it here as well. And this
is being done under the guise of fighting wildfires.

Speaker 28 (01:54:54):
Runswick is taking new measures to curb the wildfire risk
across the province, ordering people to stay out of the woods.

Speaker 20 (01:55:01):
Following a similar move made by Nova Scotia.

Speaker 41 (01:55:03):
This week, New Brunswick is taking further action on extreme
wildfire risks, with Premier Susan Holt announcing Saturday that the
province will be closing all Crown land to the public,
much like Nova Scotia, with new restrictions taking effect at
twelve oh one am Sunday.

Speaker 42 (01:55:18):
That we're here on a Saturday afternoon to ask all
New Brunswickers to get out of the woods and to
stay out of the woods.

Speaker 41 (01:55:26):
They include hiking, camping, fishing, and the use of vehicles
in the woods, with all trail systems in wooded areas
being off limits and camping being limited to campgrounds. Private
land owners are being urged to take similar precautions as well.

Speaker 42 (01:55:40):
Your support and New Brunswicker's action in this is crucial
to keeping our wildfire teams focused on the fires that
exist today and not adding to the problem.

Speaker 41 (01:55:51):
Holt says she will not be implementing new fines at
this time for enforcing the restrictions.

Speaker 42 (01:55:56):
We are really hoping that at the end of all
this we will have issued zero fines because New Brunswickers
will have seen the risk to their neighbors, the risk
to our emergency response systems.

Speaker 41 (01:56:10):
The large wildfire in mirror Machi, which officials are now
dubbing the Old Field Road fire, has more than tripled
in size.

Speaker 13 (01:56:17):
All right, I guess you could call it eco distancing. Huh,
eco distance if they would go back to the way
that they managed the.

Speaker 20 (01:56:29):
Forests in the nineteen sixties, we had a forest service.

Speaker 13 (01:56:33):
Okay, hang on, we'll be back for you.

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For American Family News. I'm Robert Thornton. President Donald Trump
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nation's schools and universities. In her ruling, a US district
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(01:59:45):
law when it threatened to cut federal funding from educational
institutions that continued with DEI initiatives. Probation for the owner
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Speaker 32 (02:00:01):
Erdin Arkhan told him Manhattan Federal Judge Friday he regretted
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Speaker 31 (02:00:45):
Week's Josh Hammer told Afar that there is a well
orchestrated information operation that is trying to tear apart Christians
and Jews, and that it's evil and must be defeated.

Speaker 33 (02:00:54):
It's really started to pick up in recent weeks. So
there was this whole there was this whole allegation of
a historic church in Samaria, the aka of the quote
unquote west Bank in a town called Taibep that they
said that quote unquote is really settlers had torched, had
committed active arson to burning down, and this spread like

(02:01:15):
wildfire all throughout the internet, and all the usual suspects,
all those who are who are inclined or are already
disclined towards us. His relations seized on the story.

Speaker 31 (02:01:27):
And another issue he said is that Tucker Carlson has
hosted people that taut replacement theology, and Ohio t Party
activist is concerned that the Democrats could regain a US
Senate seat in twenty twenty six. More from AFNs Chad Groning.

Speaker 13 (02:01:41):
One of the.

Speaker 34 (02:01:41):
Reasons Republicans gain control of the Senate in twenty twenty
four was the victory of Bernie Marino over long time
Ohio Democrat and come and Shared Brown. But with the
ascension of Senator J. D. Evans to the vice presidency,
Governor Mike Dewinne appointed Lieutenant Governor John Houston as Vance's replacement,
paving the way for a special election in November of
twenty six. Now Brown has officially decided to challenge hostd

(02:02:04):
tom Zawasowski as president of the Ohio based Tea Party
affiliated We the People Convention.

Speaker 35 (02:02:09):
They're going to throw fifty million dollars at it and
see if they can beat John Houston, the Republican who
was appointed to the Senate seat. So he hasn't run
for election as a Senator yet, but he has run
for state office and he's won. He was lieutenant governor.
So it's going to be a battle and they're going
to spend a lot of money. But I still think

(02:02:30):
we will win in the end.

Speaker 34 (02:02:31):
But the Tea Party leader admits there's another concern.

Speaker 35 (02:02:34):
The biggest factor is that we defeated him with Trump
on the ticket, and Trump's not going to be on
the ballot in twenty twenty six, and there's a good
ten to fifteen percent Republican voters who literally show up
only because Trump's on the ballot. We saw that in
twenty twenty two, we saw that in twenty eighteen, so

(02:02:55):
it is a concern.

Speaker 31 (02:02:57):
Today. The NCAA find Michigan tens of millions of dollars
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its program for nearly two years. More, who has already
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This is We're in America with Darren Weeks and Vicky Davis.

Speaker 13 (02:05:06):
From FEMA Regions five and ten. This is the third
and final hour of Governor America. Vicky Davis is here.
I'm Darren Weeks, and it continues to be the sixteenth
of August twenty twenty five, as we get back into
the show here. Earlier in the show, I was talking
about how they are expanding the definition of death. There
is an article in the New York Times which was

(02:05:29):
just last month. It's a matter of a couple of
weeks ago actually, where they're talking about organ harvesting and
how the need is to have basically more people giving
organs and to change the definition of what amounts to

(02:05:51):
death in order to facilitate more organs being harvested so.

Speaker 20 (02:05:59):
They can keep your body alive.

Speaker 13 (02:06:01):
That you're dead, so they compete basically so that they
can keep other people alive at your expense if they
decide to call you dead. The New York Times says
most organ people die in many ways, but in medicine
there are only two reasons a person can be declared dead.

(02:06:23):
Either the heart has stopped or the brain has ceased
to function. Even if the heart is still beating, A
person may serve as an organ donor only after being
declared dead. Until then, transplant surgeons are not allowed even
to interact with a die and patient. The common sensical

(02:06:44):
rule underpins organ donation in the United States and many
other countries. Most donor organs today are obtained after brain death,
defined by most states most state laws as a condition
of permanent unconciousness, with no spontaneous breathing, no response to pain,

(02:07:05):
and no primitive reflexes, in other words, devastation of the
whole brain. Organs obtain this way are often relatively healthy
because brain dead patients can continue to circulate blood and oxygen.
Brain death is rare, though in New York State, with
a population of twenty million people, there are on average

(02:07:28):
fewer than five hundred cases suitable for organ procurement and
transplantation each year. Far more often people die because their
heart has permanently stopped beating, which is known as circulatory death. However,
precisely because the blood has stopped circulating, organs from people
who die this way are often damaged and unsuited for transplantation.

(02:07:51):
The need for donor organs is urgent. An estimated fifteen
people die in this country every day waiting for a transplant.
We need to figure out how to obtain more healthy
organs from donors while maintaining strict ethical standards. Yeah, okay,
ethical standards, that's what here. Let me let me get

(02:08:14):
to the punchline. Okay, so how are they going to
do it? New technologies they say can help, But the
best solution we believe is legal. We need to broaden
the definition of death. How do you like that?

Speaker 20 (02:08:34):
Well, the organs of the useless eater are pretty damn valuable. Yeah,
you could do it under you know that. You could say, well,
if if they're a useless eater, then they are effectively

(02:08:54):
dead anyway, so we'll let them walk around and harvest
them as needed.

Speaker 13 (02:09:01):
If you broaden the definition of death. You are including
people that are alive. That's the bottom line, they say.
Consider how things currently work. In the procedure known as
donation after circulatory death, a typical donor is an irreversible
is in an irreversible coma from say a drug overdose

(02:09:23):
or a massive cerebral hemorrhage, and the heart is beating
only because of life support. The donor is still not
legally brain dead. He or she might have, say a
gag reflects or other primitive functions, and they might be
able to feel pain too when you cut their organs out.
In such cases, with the blessing of the family, a

(02:09:45):
donor is brought into the operating room and life support
is carefully withdrawn. If, as is expected, the removal of
life support results in stoppage of the heart, surgeons will
wait long enough to determine that the stoppage is permanent
to be comm of death, but not so long that
the vital organs get damaged. This period is typically about

(02:10:06):
five minutes. Then the surgeons remove the organs, but even
a few minutes of a stopped heart often results in
damage to the organs. This deprives potential recipients of healthy organs,
and thwarts the wishes of donors to have their organs
used to help others. I'll tell you to tell you
right now, there's no way in this present climate that

(02:10:28):
I would ever be an organ donor.

Speaker 20 (02:10:31):
Yeah, I would never sign one of those.

Speaker 13 (02:10:34):
I mean, this is I admire the people that are.
I mean, I think it's altruistic and very generous of
you if you do that. But this is the very
reason why I don't want to do it.

Speaker 20 (02:10:50):
I don't trust them.

Speaker 13 (02:10:51):
I don't trust them either straight out, especially when they're
talking this nonsense. Hey, you know, we'll just get a
little bit fuzzy with what's alive and what is it
who is alive and who isn't. If we determine that
you're dead, well guess what. Congratulations, you're dead. And if
you weren't before, you will be after we get done
with you. Yeah, no, thank you. I don't I don't

(02:11:14):
think I want that, but this is but this is
life under this new system they're bringing in.

Speaker 20 (02:11:22):
You know, I guess that maybe they're getting tired of
importing body parts from China.

Speaker 13 (02:11:28):
Well, you know, pretty soon they're going to be three
D printing them. Anyway, if they're not already you know,
need a liver, Hey, we'll just manufacture one for you.

Speaker 20 (02:11:37):
Well, that's that's a good point too.

Speaker 13 (02:11:40):
I mean, technology ultimately will solve this problem. I don't
think they need to broaden the definition of death, but
that's exactly what they're talking about doing, because life, to
these people are is not sacred. It's not valuable. And
if you need any proof of that, just look at
what they've done to the millions of children that are

(02:12:02):
being slaughtered in their mother's womb every day, and nobody
seems to give a crap, you know, even pro life,
so called pro life organizations. I was just reading recently
that Michigan Right to Life. There's a lot of things
that these organizations could do, and so I'm not so
convinced that they're really fighting as hard as they could fight,

(02:12:24):
because think about it, if they got rid of abortion altogether,
what would be the end result. Nobody would be giving
money to a pro life organization anymore. Yeah, And it's
the same way with the Heart American Heart Organization. You know,

(02:12:44):
you just go right on down the list of these
different organizations that start supposedly fighting one disease or another.
And you know the cancer, American Cancer Society, you name it.
Do they really want to get rid of cancer? Not
if it means getting rid of their business model. When

(02:13:04):
you've made a disease your business model, When you've made
a crime against humanity in a case of abortion, your
business model, how hard are you going to fight to
get rid of it?

Speaker 29 (02:13:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 20 (02:13:17):
Just lip service, That's.

Speaker 13 (02:13:19):
What I'm afraid of. I hope I'm wrong. I really
hope I'm wrong. But I maybe it's my cynicism coming out.
But we see a number of things taking place, not
the least of which wildfires. We've referenced those in Canada,
and now they're making it to where people won't can't
go into the woods, can't be in the wild because

(02:13:42):
of the wildfires. And now you know, we have wildfires
of course, because as Vicky pointed out earlier, we don't
have proper forest management, has haven't had for a long time.
You know, Now we have a situation where the wildfires
in California have been used and they're using them to
displace populations of people the wildfires. Candy h six months

(02:14:10):
after California wildfires, less than one hundred building permits have
been issued in La. This is a headline in the
Gateway Pundit.

Speaker 20 (02:14:19):
They say that, and they're they're going to build affordable housing.
I understand, Yeah, housing for poor people. Well, I guess
it's it's poor people's turn to live on the beach.

Speaker 13 (02:14:32):
There you go. The wildfires that ravaged southern California and
destroyed thousands of homes and then Pacific Palisades and other
neighborhoods happened six months ago, and yet less than one
hundred building permits have been issued. Adam Carolla's predictions from
January are coming true. The rebuilding process has been so

(02:14:53):
slow that many people in the area have decided to
sell their destroyed homes rather than try to rebuild. KTLA
News reported it's been six months since wildfires devastated Pacific Palisades, Alta, Dina,
and other parts of southern California, and a prominent local
figure has called out political leaders for what he sees

(02:15:16):
as a lack of action. Developer Rick Caruso took to
social media on Monday to lamb bass local government officials
for endless red tape causing what he calls a lack
of progress and rebuilding after the fires. Caruso challenged the
Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass for that position. In twenty
twenty two, thousands of homes were destroyed, and yet fewer

(02:15:37):
than one hundred building permits have been issued the after
six months. He wrote, alongside a video promoting his nonprofit
Steadfast LA, he says, does anyone believe this is a
rapid rebuilding? Caruso does cite some progress. Power lines will
be rebuilt underground, for instance, and there you go, rebuilding

(02:15:58):
so called sustainably, although he criticizes officials for a focus
on lofty rhetoric instead of answers for fire victims and
tangible action on the ground.

Speaker 20 (02:16:11):
So you know, for most things, all they have to
do is delay, whether it's small businesses or people. Anything
that delays what they wanted to do right lessons the
likelihood that they'll be able to do it.

Speaker 13 (02:16:26):
Because people can't afford to be homeless. You can only
afford to live in a hotel for so long, or
you can only afford to I mean, you know, I
know one of my relatives recently had their house burned
and the insurance company was paying for a hotel room
for them for a period of time. But that stuff

(02:16:47):
is all finite. It has a very limited amount that
they're willing to pay, and once that amount runs out,
you're stuck. You either pay for it yourself, or you
have no place to live. You find somebody to live with.
And that's the problem. So these people can't afford to

(02:17:10):
sit there and be homeless, living in hotels or living
anywhere they can, out of their car, wherever they have
to live just to get by. At some point they
have to make a decision. And so your argument for
them waiting being a deliberate strategy, I think is certainly
has merit to me. And here's another story.

Speaker 43 (02:17:33):
A fast movie wildfire in southern California exploded overnight, forcing
thousands of residents to evacuate as flames with through dry
brush just north of Los Angeles. The Canyon Fire ignited
Thursday afternoon near Lake Piru in Ventura County and grew
from fifty acres to nearly five thousand acres by Friday morning.
Officials call it a very dynamic situation, fueled by hot,

(02:17:56):
dry conditions and made harder to fight by steep, rugged terrain.
More than two hundred and fifty firefighters are on the ground,
with seven helicopters and other aircraft assisting from above. The
cause is still under investigation. So far, more than forty
two hundred residents and fourteen hundred structures are under evacuation orders,
and another twelve five hundred people are under warnings. The

(02:18:18):
fire is burning near Los Padres National Forest, the same
area scorched by the Hughes Fire in January, which torched
about fifteen square miles in just six hours. No injuries
have been reported. It is one of a string of
wildfires threatening southern California this summer.

Speaker 44 (02:18:34):
Earlier this week, the Gifford Fire.

Speaker 43 (02:18:36):
In south central California became the state's largest of the year,
Still burning in Los Padres National Forest, with a dangerous
heat wave gripping much of the state, Fire conditions remain
extremely high through the weekend, and we.

Speaker 13 (02:18:49):
See this from Breitbart. California Governor Gavin Newsom announced that
he had allocated one hundred one million dollars in new
spending on low income housing in the areas devastated by
the Palisides, Palisades and Eton fires, confirming residents' fears. Long
worried that state and local authorities would use the opportunity

(02:19:10):
provided by the fires to build low income housing, perhaps
even for the homeless population, or for housing for illegal aliens.
They called them migrants. I'm calling them what they are, aliens.
When La Mayor Karen Bass, who by the way, as
a communist listeners, appointed Steve Saborov as chief Recovery Officer

(02:19:31):
without any kind of public process, some residents suspected the
Saborov's role would be to push for a so called
affordable housing. Many residents felt that there was already affordable
housing in the area, whether the trailer park near Pacific
Coast Highway or post war bungalows that had once been

(02:19:52):
cheap before rising dramatically in value. Did they really rise
in value or did they just cost more? You know,
I doubt they really. You know, that's the thing. Value,
Isn't it funny how value is so called, is determined
by what you have to pay to live there. Yeah,
it's no more valuable really than it was before. It's

(02:20:15):
just you have to pay more to live there, so
they consider it rising in value.

Speaker 20 (02:20:19):
They're really pricing people out of single family homes.

Speaker 13 (02:20:24):
They're pricing you out of everything. I mean, people can't
even afford to live in apartments because the rent goes
sky high all the time. So this is the concern
I have with everything, is it's becoming impossible to live.

Speaker 20 (02:20:40):
Yeah, how well, that's what happens when you have the
Congress representing corporations. Corporations have to make money, right, so
they're devastating our country for profit, for fun and profit.

Speaker 13 (02:20:57):
Yeah. Speaking of California, the Trumpet mentation has taken aim
at California's EV mandate, which is great. The GAO said,
couldn't do that in the OMB.

Speaker 45 (02:21:10):
As for the administrations, OMB takes aim at the GAO
for claiming that President Trump could not rescind California's electric
vehicle mandate under the Congressional Review Act.

Speaker 8 (02:21:22):
Here's one America's Daniel Baldwin.

Speaker 46 (02:21:25):
Well, let's have a few minutes here with Jeff Clark.
He's the acting administrator of omb's Office of Information and
Regulatory Affairs. Jeff Big time letter went out from omb's
director Russ Vote yesterday regarding the Government Accountability Office his
attempt to try to prevent Congress and the President from
repealing California's EV mandate via the Congressional Review Act. That's

(02:21:46):
something that the President did about a week or two ago,
big time moves repealing three different regulatory efforts by the
state of California. Talk to us about this letter, what
the Director said, and what the White House's stance on
this is.

Speaker 47 (02:21:58):
California has these electric vehicle mandates that started at thirty
five percent, or would have in model year twenty twenty six,
which is already in many cases well underway. So it's
great to see this stopped right at its inception and
then running through you know, model year twenty thirty five.
And once you got to that model year, it had

(02:22:19):
to be one hundred percent electric vehicles. And so you know,
this is a standard that you know, a lot of
the automakers they couldn't afford to do anything other than
comply with the California standard. So it functionally becomes a
nationwide standard. And in any event, it's a standard in
seventeen states total. And as President Trump said when he
signed these California banning resolutions under the Congressional Review Act

(02:22:44):
last week, if you got seventeen states doing something, you're
really talking about making cars for two countries. And so
now we have Congress stepping up to the plate, voting
in pipartisan majorities to get rid of these California mandate.

Speaker 44 (02:22:59):
But what did the GAO tried to do.

Speaker 47 (02:23:02):
They tried to basically say, Congress could not tee this
up for a vote. They could not decide whether to
allow the California mandates to keep going or to pull
them down. That instead, because the Parliamentarian of the Senate
had said that the California waivers as granted by EPA
were adjudications and not rules. Therefore the Congressional Review Act

(02:23:24):
didn't apply. Our letter, the letter from russ Vote sent
out yesterday a page letter, be in great detail. And
therefore why the parliamentarian was wrong to say that this
was not a rule. You know, let's just take the
minimum case of it applies in seventeen states. If something
applies in seventeen states, it's not a one off, you know,
ruling and adjudication for one state.

Speaker 44 (02:23:46):
It's effectively a rule.

Speaker 47 (02:23:48):
It's a set of standards that governs all of the
vehicle sales of new motor vehicles and new motor vehicle
engines in those states. It's really important that Congress has
you know, clawed back from the administ state of state
the power to decide whether to have rules of this
kind of magnitude. I mean, we're talking about costs and
the billions of these things, especially if you look over
the span of time if the whole nation had to

(02:24:10):
switch to electric vehicles. We're not just talking about the vehicles.
You need an infrastructure system to make the vehicles work. Right,
You're charging stations. We don't have nearly enough of those
all around the country. That's you know, that price tag
may even approach a trillion dollars to get all the
necessary infrastructure in you know, that would match having you know,
conventional gas stations like we have now.

Speaker 44 (02:24:32):
So it was really important for President Trump to do this.

Speaker 13 (02:24:35):
Okay, I don't know if you have any thoughts on that, right, Yeah.

Speaker 20 (02:24:39):
I wondered for a long time, you know, why does
it seem that California is setting all of the standards
and every time they set a standard, the price for
car goes way up. I haven't thought, you know, why
doesn't some Why doesn't somebody start manufacturing and let's go

(02:25:01):
back to the old volkswagon. Let's build volkswagons. You know,
they were cheap and they didn't use a lot of gas.
They were actually great cars. But you know, I I
with all the EPA regulations and GAO, which I didn't

(02:25:24):
know that the GAO was involved in this. You couldn't
do it, you know.

Speaker 13 (02:25:30):
Yeah, they really need.

Speaker 20 (02:25:32):
To fix that. They need to just get us out
from under this regulatory yoke.

Speaker 13 (02:25:40):
Yeah, there's there's there's a lawsuit that was fired to
filed the Los Angeles. It is alleging that a Los
Angeles Department of Water and Power took nearly five hours
to respond to an order to de energize electrical circuits
during the catastrophic Palisades, and then changed a computer log

(02:26:02):
to make it appear he had arrived much sooner. The suit,
which blames the LEDWP for damages caused by the devastating fire,
amends a complaint filed in March and contains new allegations
of city mismanagement and various attempts by LADWP to cover

(02:26:24):
up its part in stoking the fire that destroyed nearly
seven thousand homes and businesses and killed twelve people. So
there's something.

Speaker 20 (02:26:33):
To keep the concept of having to sue for something
like that. Who has money to sue? You know, not
that many people have money to sue when they've been wronged,
which means that a lot of wrongs go uncorrected.

Speaker 13 (02:26:52):
Yeah. Well, we've talked about how dangerous electric vehicles are,
and those are being pushed everywhere. The lithium ion batteries,
as we've mentioned before, are very dangerous. Tell you what,

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Speaker 13 (02:31:09):
Right when the home stretch of the broadcast one more
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how we've talked about how dangerous these electric vehicles are.

Speaker 27 (02:31:23):
Uh.

Speaker 13 (02:31:23):
They're being pushed everywhere. The lithium batteries, as we've said,
are very volatile. They chemically react with the water. Uh.
And so that's why in flood areas it's very dangerous
to have an electric vehicle if you're in one, because
not only will you potentially be trapped in the vehicle,
because the electrical system will fail. But the floodwaters interacting

(02:31:44):
with your battery could end up causing your fire, catch
your car to catch fire. So yeah, it's really very dangerous. Well,
there was a freighter that was not too long ago
suffered that kind of reality. They were at sea and
they were well, I'll let you listen to the story.

Speaker 14 (02:32:01):
The cargo ship carrying more than three thousand brand new
vehicles has sunk in the Pacific Ocean, weeks after a
fire forced the crew to evacuate. All twenty two crew
members were safely rescued after the blaze disabled the vessel.
The ship, called the Morning Midas, suffered severe damage and
was later battered by rough weather, which allowed water to

(02:32:24):
seep in. It eventually sank Monday, more than four hundred
miles off the coast of Alaska's Islands. It's still unclear
if any of the cars on board destined for Mexico
were removed before the ship went down. A salvage team
arrived days after the fire, but the extent of their
progress is unknown. The ship's management company, Zodiac Maritime, says

(02:32:46):
two salvage vessels equipped with pollution control gear will remain
on site, and a third response ship is being dispatched
as an extra precaution. The Coastguard says the morning Midas
was carrying three hundred and fifty metric tons of marine
gas and more than fifteen hundred metric tons of very
low sulfur fuel. The oil response vessel Endeavor, equipped for

(02:33:08):
spill containment, is en route and expected to arrive Thursday.
The initial distress call came in June third, reporting a
fire about three hundred miles southwest of Adak Island, roughly
twelve hundred miles from anchorage. A thick plume of smoke
could be seen rising from the stern near the deck
carrying electric vehicles. Among the cargo about seventy evs and

(02:33:30):
nearly seven hundred hybrids. All crew members were evacuated on
a lifeboat and were rescued by a merchant ship nearby.
No injuries were reported. The cause of the fire is
still under investigation. The nearly twenty year old six hundred
foot vessel departed China on May twenty six and was
sailing under a Liberian flag headed for Mexico.

Speaker 13 (02:33:51):
Here you go.

Speaker 20 (02:33:52):
That does doesn't sound sustainable.

Speaker 13 (02:33:56):
No, certainly was for that ship.

Speaker 20 (02:34:01):
Or it's true, Yeah, that sounds actually pretty horrifying.

Speaker 13 (02:34:06):
Yeah, absolutely so. And also there is the uh we've
talked about how dangerous you know, and and the electric vehicle.
It just keeps on coming, the hits with these these evs.

Speaker 21 (02:34:22):
Uh.

Speaker 13 (02:34:23):
The son of a famous NBR NBA I can't talk
for some reason today. I don't know what I apologize,
ladies and gentlemen. Uh, the son of a famous NBA
basketball star was almost killed when he was trapped in
his electric vehicle following a crash. He was trapped inside
the vehicle after hitting a fire hydrant. I think this

(02:34:45):
was actually a one of the Tesla cars.

Speaker 48 (02:34:48):
But new video revealing much more about a fiery cyber
truck crash that happened early this morning in a local neighborhood.
The team injured in that crash is Elijah Arenas, a
five star basketball recruit for usc and also of the Sun,
a former NBA player Gilbert Arenas. Eyewitness news reporter Tim
Caputo spoke to a neighbor who heard the crash and
then rushed to help.

Speaker 44 (02:35:07):
And mark, this is where the crash happened.

Speaker 49 (02:35:08):
You see behind me, some high school friends have been
stopping by all day long. You could actually see the
damage on the tree behind me. In fact, some of
the cyber truck lodged into the trunk of the tree itself.
Just a kind of sense of how impactful this wreck was.
Behind the wheel of that cyber truck the sun of
a former NBA star who had just completed two of
the best high school basketball seasons.

Speaker 44 (02:35:28):
In LA history.

Speaker 49 (02:35:29):
A Tesla cyber truck driven by eighteen year old Elijah Arenas,
a five star high school basketball prospect and son of
former NBA star Gilbert Arenas, hit a hydrant and then
a tree on Corbyn Avenue just before five this morning.
The truck caught fire, and as the hydrant spewed water
into the sky, the fire was pouring smoke both outside
and inside the cyber truck, with Arenas stuck inside. Brian Sandevil,

(02:35:53):
who was woken up by the crash, grabbed a fire extinguisher,
sprinted over to help and realized the driver couldn't get out.

Speaker 50 (02:36:00):
I heard something banging from coming inside the car, something
someone was in there, so treper out the fire didn't help.
Tried smashing the back window on the driver's side, couldn't
do it, couldn't forgot to open up the door, so
basically just saw the driver's side window slightly a jarred,
so just put that down and he stuck his hand out.
We grabbed it, pulled them, pulled them out, and try Afterwards,

(02:36:22):
the fire department came.

Speaker 49 (02:36:23):
Arenas, who committed to play at USC next season, was
rushed to the hospital and is now reportedly an induced coma.

Speaker 13 (02:36:29):
By some miracle, despite having been in a coma, he
did finally live to tell about it, and as it
turns out, the cyber truck apparently had malfunctioned.

Speaker 51 (02:36:40):
The wheel wasn't moving as like easy as it should,
and me noticing the keypad wasn't on those kind ofs
just sounded.

Speaker 39 (02:36:49):
Like weirding me out.

Speaker 11 (02:36:51):
I'm holding the wheel, but I didn't.

Speaker 51 (02:36:54):
I didn't register that I went from this line to
this line. So when I had thought about it, I said,
oh wait, something's wrong.

Speaker 39 (02:37:02):
And then.

Speaker 52 (02:37:04):
Next thing you know, I can't get back to the left.

Speaker 51 (02:37:07):
So a car's coming from this way of me, and
I'm actually thinking, all right, I'll just pull over. So
I'm speeding up to pull over into this lane. There's
car is like parked out on the street, so I'm
trying to get into like uh, to turn into like
a neighborhood. And when I'm turning, but I'm speeding up
to turn, I can't stop, so the wheel's not responding

(02:37:29):
to me as if I'm not physically in there. So
when I next thing, you know, our remember was feeling pressured.
So I remember a light passing me and I look
and I see it's a car run by, and I
look back in front of me. I'm on my way
to a curve. I get on the curve and I
remember it's just pressure. I wake up in the car.

(02:37:51):
After about three minutes. I had saw from the camera
feed that the car had caught fire on impact.

Speaker 13 (02:37:58):
So as I'm logging into my phone, the Raid called
my dad.

Speaker 52 (02:38:01):
I try to open the door, and the doors open,
and then the screen you know when you turn on
your phone, your stream, that kind of comes back just
a little bit brighter, and then that apple sun shows up.

Speaker 18 (02:38:13):
A big lock screen showed. They said the car wasn't locked.

Speaker 11 (02:38:16):
So the only time.

Speaker 44 (02:38:17):
I've seen it is when you lock her, you tesla key.

Speaker 18 (02:38:21):
It's talk a little credit card.

Speaker 11 (02:38:23):
You lock it, and then if.

Speaker 51 (02:38:26):
Somebody else tries to come and press it.

Speaker 18 (02:38:28):
To open it without the key, it shows like a
lock sign in the car.

Speaker 44 (02:38:33):
So when I saw that, I kind of like I
realized what.

Speaker 6 (02:38:36):
Situation I was in.

Speaker 52 (02:38:39):
So my first in thing was take off my seatbelt.
I got in the backseat to assess what I could do.

Speaker 51 (02:38:45):
I checked for any cracks, anything, anything I could use
to get out, So you know, I.

Speaker 52 (02:38:50):
Start kind of panking, just rushing to get out.

Speaker 51 (02:38:55):
It got quite hot, to a point where it was
like I was losing it, and then I had passed.

Speaker 18 (02:39:01):
Out for the first time.

Speaker 52 (02:39:03):
Between pass outs.

Speaker 51 (02:39:04):
I woke up for about it's something I probably about
twenty to thirty second.

Speaker 29 (02:39:09):
Sweep back up.

Speaker 13 (02:39:10):
So anyway, thankfully he got out alive.

Speaker 20 (02:39:13):
But these that sounds horrifying.

Speaker 13 (02:39:16):
These cars are dangerous, you know. And I having power
locks and power windows and everything and it's all battery operated,
and then having your car malfunction. I guess any car
can malfunction, but the more computer equipment that are on it,
these things, it's like the windows blue screen of death.

(02:39:37):
You know, you're not really driving it anymore. That's the
thing with all these cars and all this computer crap
on these vehicles. You're not driving them anymore. You're driving
them by proxy. You've got a computer actually doing the driving,
and you're just controlling the steering wheel and the pedals
based upon you know, and it's taking feed back from

(02:40:00):
you to determine what to do. But you're not directly
driving the vehicles anymore. Firstly, yeah, it's driving, and you're
driving it by proxy the computer to do it.

Speaker 20 (02:40:15):
In any car that is driving itself.

Speaker 13 (02:40:19):
Well, all modern vehicles are that way anymore.

Speaker 20 (02:40:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (02:40:23):
So anyway, the Trump administration is moving to rescind a
rule which blocked logging in national forests. This is an
important step toward proper forest manager.

Speaker 53 (02:40:33):
The US Department of Agriculture says it plans to revoke
a decades old rule that protects more than fifty eight
million acres of national forests from road construction, drilling, mining,
and logging. The USDA, which oversees the US Forest Service,
intends to eliminate the roadless rule. The policy was created
to preserve wilderness across roughly thirty percent of the country's

(02:40:56):
national forest. Research shows building roads can lead to harm
consequences like disruptions to habitats, ecosystems, and contamination of drinking water.

Speaker 13 (02:41:06):
Here we go with the environmental talking points again. Building
roads are bad for the environment. Yeah, not having roads
are bad for the environment. How good is it going
to be? How easy is it going to be to
fire fight a fire if you don't have roads to
be able to get fire trucks?

Speaker 29 (02:41:25):
There?

Speaker 20 (02:41:26):
Good point, you know.

Speaker 13 (02:41:28):
And because the environmental agencies that are supposed to be
managing our forests don't ever do prescribed burns anymore, at
least seemingly they don't properly manage the forests. These things
just go up and smoke like tinderboxes. I'll leave that.

(02:41:48):
I'll leave that there because it's frustrating. But the speaking
of other frustrating things, there are communists getting together. We
mentioned earlier the Democratic Socialists of America. Well, they held
a meeting a couple of weeks ago to plot how
to abolish the family unit as an institution. They've been

(02:42:12):
a war with a family for a long time. But
now they're coming right out in the open and they's
just talking about how bad they think the family unit is.
Every one of them in this meeting we're wearing face masks,
face diapers. But their faces weren't the only things that
needed to be uncovered. They're hideous anti American, anti freedom

(02:42:33):
idiology that had been brewing beneath the surface for many,
many years. Is they're finally it's all finally coming into view.

Speaker 20 (02:42:43):
Yeah. Do you remember when Chescu, I think he was
the president of Romania, when when they fell they found
all these orphanages with chilled in a babies and children.
Nobody ever held those babies. They were just you know,

(02:43:06):
in the crib by themselves, with no nobody to pick
them up and hold them and sick.

Speaker 13 (02:43:15):
It's just sad.

Speaker 20 (02:43:16):
Yeah, that's that's what would happen if society raises children.

Speaker 13 (02:43:22):
Yeah, yeah, they they talk a little bit about I
got a little bit of a clip here. I had
a couple of them, but I probably won't get to
all of it. But they started off talking about how
terrible the American system is.

Speaker 54 (02:43:36):
We are in an extremely reactionary moment. We are in
a fascist moment. We are in a moment where I
think the left is constantly surprised at how few people are,
you know, ready for revolts despite you know, the extremely
dire conditions that we're in that keep becoming more and

(02:43:56):
more dire every day.

Speaker 18 (02:43:57):
And I think I think this.

Speaker 54 (02:43:59):
Question of the way that I think about abolition is
as a liberatory horizon, and for a great discussion of this,
I actually recommend my co author Michelle O'Brien's Emmy O'Brien's
book Family Abolition has a great discussion of how to.

Speaker 18 (02:44:13):
Think about abolition, Why call it? Why call it family
abolition when that.

Speaker 54 (02:44:18):
You know, that phrase like sends people running, you know,
and they're like, well, why would you call it that?

Speaker 18 (02:44:23):
And I think her.

Speaker 54 (02:44:26):
Discussion is around the idea of abolition as a radical
liberatory horizon. And I think that for us in a moment,
in a reactionary moment where we are not close to
very many material wins, I think that we as a
left have to do two things that seem contradictory and
that we're quite bad at doing, which is to hold

(02:44:47):
right that we might fight for material improvements in the
here and now under a system that is frankly horrifying,
that does not represent our ideals, that doesn't represent that's
our highest aspiration, and those material wins right don't represent
full liberation right, and that we can hold we can

(02:45:08):
look past those at our liberatory horizon that is much
further down the line, right right, that is full liberation,
and the reason to keep doing that, right, is that
otherwise we fall into a liberalist and into a liberal tendency,
which is to mistake the temporary wins for liberation and

(02:45:29):
to you know, after a wins, sit down and quit, right,
or to be like, okay, we are bought off now.
But the reality is that, So I think we actually
have both tasks, right, It's both holding the revolutionary horizon
right in our gaze in order to say, like, okay,
we want like you know, universal prekaing incredible, like that

(02:45:52):
isn't a material win that is going to improve working
class lives. And I don't know how to be a
part of a left that doesn't like sign up for that,
that doesn't like take up any opportunity to improve the
people's material lives.

Speaker 29 (02:46:05):
Right.

Speaker 10 (02:46:06):
But the reason is also hold.

Speaker 18 (02:46:08):
The abolitionist stands right.

Speaker 54 (02:46:10):
As a revolution realized is to say, and that's not enough,
what's next? What is going to take us even further
down the liberty et cetera. So actually, for me, these
are not two things to reconcile. There are two things
to hold at once.

Speaker 13 (02:46:23):
And I think that all right, I'm gonna dump out
of it. I can hardly stand this. But you know
she's she talks about how horrible the American system is.
We're surrounded by countries that adhere to the principles that
they espouse. So why doesn't she go to Cuba? For instance?
Everything's not fair in Cuba. People are equally hungry and poor.

Speaker 20 (02:46:45):
We could all kick in and kidder a ticket.

Speaker 13 (02:46:48):
Yeah, I would be happy to. Is it such a
It's such a great socialist system there that literally tens
of thousands of people have died attempting to float on
rafts from Cuba to get to the United States because
they have such a We have such a horrible system here, right,
So go to Cuba, go to Venezuela. There's all kinds

(02:47:11):
of places that would welcome you a comrade worker. Anyway,
they talk a little bit about children and how they're
being oppressed by their tyrant parents.

Speaker 55 (02:47:21):
So I'm going to focus on family policing policy because
kids and their rights and what I've focused on for
the last ten years in my work. But that's just
to say that there are a lot of ways. As
Olivia mentioned, that the family itself has to be continually
regulated in our country through various mechanisms to keep itself together.

(02:47:45):
As the unit, that it is a socially organizing unit.
That it is so in this country that we have
that assumes that the family is and should be the
fundamental organizing unit for society is something that we all
have in common because it's supposedly for the common good.
Children whose parents are unable to pride either housing, food,

(02:48:07):
or safety are treated as if they have committed a crime.
So the kids themselves are treated as if they have
committed a crime if they're not born into.

Speaker 54 (02:48:16):
A family that can support them.

Speaker 55 (02:48:18):
That's just an astounding fact. They're criminalized and residential facilities,
group homes, on psyche boards.

Speaker 39 (02:48:28):
In schools all the time, and you've ben all the tension.

Speaker 13 (02:48:32):
Of course, do you get that. I don't know if
you could make out what she's saying. She's saying that
children are essentially being criminalized if they're born in a family,
or if they're not in a born in a family
that can take care of them. They know, no, they're
put into foster care, you know, But what would happen

(02:48:55):
under the state. You know, she talks about the children
essentially being the property of their parents. Well, when you
live in a communist country, you're the property of the state.
I would much rather be. And you're not really property
here of your parents. You're under their custody, you're under

(02:49:16):
their control until until you're a certain age. These people
are nuts.

Speaker 20 (02:49:22):
She's working on the rights of the child.

Speaker 13 (02:49:27):
Yeah, well, that's the thing is that that's exactly the
communist nature of the United Nations because they espouse the
same type of ideology. And you're right to connect that dot.
That's absolutely what she's saying goes along real perfectly with
the UN and the rights of the child thing.

Speaker 20 (02:49:50):
Yeah, I'll tell you what. In my household, both when
I was growing up and when I was a parent,
there was no such thing as the rights of the child.
There were the privileges of the child, and if he
behaved and did what he was supposed to do, he
could have privileges, but he did not have rights.

Speaker 13 (02:50:13):
You have rights to life, you have rights to liberty,
but you when you're a child living at home, it's
understood you're under your parents' authority. And in most.

Speaker 20 (02:50:28):
Cases, nobody cares about a kid more than his parents.

Speaker 13 (02:50:33):
For most parents, in most cases there.

Speaker 20 (02:50:36):
Are a very few that should never have.

Speaker 13 (02:50:39):
Children right and unfortunately, as the father of a daughter,
who has been a school teacher. She got out of that, thankfully,
but she was a school teacher for a while, my daughter, Jessica,
and she saw firsthand the problems in the public school system. Uh,

(02:51:03):
and how what a mess it's become, and the overwhelming
number of problem children in the school they had. They
uniformly had a bad home life. You could tell based
upon the behavior of the child who had a who
had a good at home, and who had parents that
just didn't give a crap. And that's the biggest problem

(02:51:26):
today with school children are parents that just don't seem
to care about them. Yeah, and and that is part
and Parson. So that is a symptom of the attack
on the family. This is precisely why we need the family,
because a strong family means you're going to have well

(02:51:50):
behaved children, if it's operating properly, you're gonna have discipline,
and you're going to have people that are actually studying,
learning and become responsible individuals in the society of tomorrow.
You can't have that without without good, strong families. And
that is exactly why they want to destroy it. All right,

(02:52:12):
let's go to the phones. Let's take a couple of
calls here in the waning moments of the broadcast. Let's
first start with California. Hello, you're on the air. Go ahead, please, Hi.

Speaker 56 (02:52:24):
I just mentioned that you were speaking about the national forests,
but under the original Constitution, those are not national forests.
Those are forests that belong to the states, and the
territory begin dividing up and becoming states. After the first
few states, the Congress started trying to set limitations on

(02:52:49):
their ownership of the land within the states and reserving
some of it for the federal government. And the reason
this is so important is that it is a possibility
that under strategic reserves, they're going to try and back
arm our financial or currency with gold, silver and strategic reserves,

(02:53:12):
and they're going to show off that land m hm.

Speaker 20 (02:53:17):
And we well, yeah, I'm afraid of that too.

Speaker 56 (02:53:23):
So if you encourage people to get their state legislatures
to start standing up, you know Trump was a constitutionalist,
he would arrange to start giving that land to the
states where it belongs.

Speaker 13 (02:53:36):
Yeah, well Trump isn't a constitutionalist.

Speaker 20 (02:53:40):
Well, and another problem is is that I don't actually
trust my own state. Our legislature is probably as corrupt
as it comes.

Speaker 13 (02:53:53):
So Yeah, unfortunately Trump.

Speaker 20 (02:53:56):
Our country is in a real mess. Okay.

Speaker 13 (02:54:00):
Yeah. The Constitution puts very stringent limits on the federal government.
They're supposed to purchase the land except for the seat
of government. It's supposed to only be used for forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards,
and other needful buildings. They're not supposed to be having
national parks. So you're absolutely one correct, And unfortunately, I
wish I had more time to discuss it, but we're

(02:54:21):
almost out of time. But hey, thank you for the call.
I appreciate it. God bless you. Let's go to another
caller here real quickly, got to be quick. Hello, you're
on the air. Go ahead please. I'm not hearing anything,
so I'll go on to somebody else. Hello, you're on

(02:54:41):
the air. Go ahead, Please hearing. This is Tom and
you got to be quick. Tom.

Speaker 57 (02:54:46):
Unfortunately portray behind the child's air issues the National Child
Real Act, authored by Hillary Clinton in.

Speaker 58 (02:54:57):
Nineteen ninety three. We're enhanced with the Adoption and Say
Families Act nineteen ninety seven. I've never heard anybody refer
to that. I came ahead to head with that one.
I was defending families who lost their children to the CPS.

Speaker 13 (02:55:18):
Interesting for act. Okay, very good. Hey, thank you for that.
Appreciate it if I God bless thank you. We're out
of time, folks, we gotta go. Thank you everyone for
being with us, Thanks for participating in the broadcast. I
hope you'll tell somebody about the show and join us
back here next week. If you listen, please email me

(02:55:39):
radio at Governamerica dot com. Let us know you're still there.
Let us know you're still listening. And we always like
to hear from our listeners. God bless you folks. Thank
you Vicky as always, appreciate everything you do as well.

Speaker 20 (02:55:53):
Thank you thereon YouTube.

Speaker 13 (02:55:54):
All right, God bless you folks, and we'll talk to
you soon. Bye bye.

Speaker 39 (02:56:15):
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